What If Yu-Gi-Oh! Had Pokemon Cards?
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Pokemon has some incredibly powerful cards. But what if those Pokemon cards were playable in the Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game? How crazy would some of these effects become? Let's find out!
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"What if Pokémon had Yu-Gi-Oh! cards?"
Raigeki: Turn 1 play, I win.
Yeah lol... since in the game, your opponent having no Pokémon is a win condition.
Opponent "I ACTIVATE ANTI RAIGEKI!"
Impossible. You can't play cards in your opponent's turn. I still win.
Anti Raigeki could probably be made into a card that behaves like a Trap Card, even though there are no Traps in the game. There was a kind of old Trainer card called "Team Galactic's Invention G-103 Power Spray" that works like a hand trap that blocks 1 monster effect from the opponent's turn.
Yeah except Raigeki is Electric damage, so Ground Pokémon (mostly Fighting in the TCG) are unaffected, and for Grass and Electric Pokémon you'd have to flip a coin.
If Yu-Gi-Oh! Had Pokémon cards?
Me: Activate professor sycamore
Opponent: *immediately proceeds to scoop phase
TeamSamuraiX1 Love the vids when next Lightsworn
yes, discard's the cost, but ash blossom only does it from deck, so sycamore's safe
you draw 7 though, so ash is applicable.
*PLAYS SYCAMORE IN BA*
Professor Sycamore and Juniper do the same thing as professor oak. But professor oak wasn't around when supporter cards were first created, so he gets by the "Once per turn" rule.
Someone tell Cimo that there is a card that just says “draw 3 cards” and it’s not even played
Daniel Mizdrak
I remember being called a scrub for playing Bills secret machine back in the day.
Flip a coin. if heads draw four cards.
--This is somewhat like Cup of Ace. maybe slightly better as it's preferable no card advantage over giving your opponent card advantage
Also used to use pokeballs
Flip a coin if heads search your deck for any basic or evolution pokemon cards and put it into your hand.
---Coin toss instant combo? would have three of in Yugioh. it did better than you might think in Pokemon too where poison didn't need too many evolutions but when it used them boy howdy.
Some newbies still use Cheren and Tierno tho
Me and my friend had a deal that I would teach him yugioh and he would teach me Pokemon so when he played the draw 3 cards supporter I was like wtf is that legal
Draw 3 card as a supporter is awful draw one card as an item is much better
@@ultraatari9298 and today there is a card that you flip a coin
Heads:draw 4 cards
Tails:draw 2 cards
And it isn't played neither
Shuffle your hand into your deck and draw 5 cards just the cynthia that draws 1 more card
There is a milotic that reads "search your deck for any three cards, add those cards to your hand"
That's disgusting lol 😆🤣
@@dbz052007 There are multiple cards that have those attacks, but nowadays they are not considered any good because there are many cards that involve hand disruption, so it is very unlikely the person using that attack will keep those cards to use for their upcoming turn.
@@coolyeh1017 Steven's Resolve was played heavily when it was legal.
Happy birthday friend :) Glad you got around to making this video finally lol
dzeeff Hey dude
Are you saying happy birthday to yourself?
happy bday cimooooooo
'' *Discard your entire hand, draw 7 cards* '' My body would be SOOOO ready for that =3
Play that in Brandish and have fun seeing your opponent rage quiting.#Mustbenice for you that is.
Must be nice
Lithium2300 your.... body?
it's a meme creation chaos
Lithium2300 What if I told you that you can have up to 4 copies of that card (and any other)in your deck, with no banlist to worry about?
Welcome to Pokemon
First of all: awesome video! I‘d like to see a second part😉
First of all I should explain some points to clear some questions.
Every player starts with 6 prices and whenever a player knocks out an opponent‘s Pokemon he can take a price card. Whoever takes all prices first wins the game.
Second: Trainer cards are splitted into items and supporters. You can play item multiple times per turn, but you can only play ONE supporter per turn. Please keep that in mind while reading the rest.
I‘d like to say some points in regards to the mentioned cards.
Pidgeot: the ability is strong, but it’s a stage 2 Pokemon so you have to wait 2 turns until you can evolve it up (you can only once per turn but not during the first turn you placed the basic pokemon)
Trevenant: it’s very strong because denying item cards is almost the same as denying their engine. Many people hate playing against it
Zoroark GX: it’s THE meta defining card as of right now (the day this video came out). If you have multiple ones out on the field you can activate all of them. Most of the top decks play multiple copies in their decks. Just to mention: zoroark is a good attacker as well😅😅😅 Since zoroark is a gx your opponent can take two prices if he knocks zoroark out so be careful 😉
Shaymin EX: just as its ability says, it sets you up. People played out their hands aggressively just so they can draw more cards with shaymin. But since it’s an EX your opponent takes 2 prices if he knocks it out...
Misty‘s Determination: discarding TWO cards just to maybe find a good card is too inconsistent. If you play a supporter it should either draw cards or have an impact on the board state.
Battle City: draw 1 card on a coin toss is too inconsistent to run this stadium. There are way better stadiums you could run over this one (discard a energy and draw 2 cards; limit the amount of pokemons your opponent can have out,...)
Hex Maniac: many decks rely HEAVILY on abilities. And denying them to your opponent can be one of the most disruptive play possible. Unfortunately it allready rotated out of Standard but you can still play it in Expanded.
Pokemon Collector: searching THREE basics without any restrictions is very strong, but as of right now this cards is too old and is not tournament legal😑😩😩
Underground Expedition: looking at only 4 cards to just pick 2 is not strong enough. You mostly use your items either to search the necessary cards directly or to accelerate your game
Computer Search: this card is absolutely broken. Since Pokemon has such aggressive draw engines it very easy to get those cards back. Often enough you’re gonna search a draw supporter with this. It’s so busted that now it got turned into an ACE SPEC (a special card type you can only have ONE SINGLE COPY OF in your entire deck)
First ticket: it’s not worth using slots for this card. The player who goes first can’t attack anyway so it basically doesn’t really matter who goes first
Delinquent: as you understood it’s a very good supporter. In Pokemon only one stadium can be in play (just like it used to be in yugi). Technically you could play your own stadium and then delinquent just to make your opponent discard 3😈😈😈
Battle Compressor: a busted tripple foolish. Even in Pokemon you have crazy graveyard shenanigans 😩😩😩 There’s nothing more to say...
Vs Seeker: there are a lot of busted supporters in this game and vs seeker let’s you reuse them. Imagine playing pot of duality more than three times in a stun deck or one offs in other decks. Jupp, that strong
Karen: first of all, she can save you from decking out. But more importantly, she is a counter to most of the graveyard based decks (the art is a nice bonus 👌🏼)
Teammates: as I said at the beginning the player with more prices left is behind. Since there are only 6 prices to take you can’t let your opponent take prices that easily, that’s why you can search any 2 cards with this one (since your opponent just got 1/6 closer to winning)
Acro bike: it’s nice filtering and got used by many aggressive decks who quickly needed to find their key cards. And once again, it helped setting up your graveyard shenanigans if necessary
Ace Trainer: it’s not a bad card, but you could only use it if you were behind. And since we already have enough good draw supporters there was no space/need for this one
Ghetsis: he is a bit random since you don’t know how many items your opponent has in his hand. But if ghetsis goes off, he‘s busted AF😈😈😈
Looker: obviously a very good supporter. Of course you can disrupt your opponent, but most of the time you’re gonna play out your whole hand and draw 5 new cards
Bianca: same point as with ace trainer. We already have enough good draw supporters so there’s no need for her...
Octillery: basically every deck that doesn’t play zoroark play this guy. And just like with zoroark, you can activate this multiple times if you have more octilleries on your field
Psychic & Caitlin: since you’re gonna play out your hand aggressively anyway there aren’t even gonna be any cards left in your hand to „change out“ so there no use of running these two supporters
Professor Oak: he and Bill are basically the reason why the supporter subtype got introduced in the first place. (Btw, Bill is Pot of Greed fyi)
Alena Dizdarevic Thanks for the explanation! I learned a lot! 👍🏻
Honestly... I got confused by two "first of all"s in a row. O.o
Alena Dizdarevic I'm sad that Lysander's Trump Card wasn't on this list since it's one of the few banned cards in pokemon.
“Teammates” in Yu-Gi-Oh would basically be “Pay 1500 life points, add 2 cards from your deck to your hand” absolutely broken. And just imagine Professor Oak in BA...
William Falls well, I added the explanation part at the beginning after I finished everything so I forgot that I started the first part the same way 😅😅😅
I like how Delinquent is just Delinquent Duo on steroids
You want to get all prize cards, so the player with less prize cards is ahead
Elathin suck it YCS winners, we’re on top now
Elathin Ohhhhhhh okay. That makes more sense. 😂😂😂😂
Also, Pokemon starts with a starting hand of 7, so for Yugioh, Professor Oak would only draw 5 cards. Still, that is a possible +4, so yeah, auto ban.
If you have fewer prize cards how are you ahead if you need to get all of them?
You draw your opening hand of 7, then you take the top 6 cards of your deck and put them facedown. Those 6 cards are your Prizes. You take prizes when you KO opponent's pokemon and when you take all of your Prizes, you win.
To clarify ace trainer: each time you KO an opposing pokemon, you take a prize card. You win by taking all 6 of your prize cards. So it's actually a catch-up card if your losing.
So it's the equivalent of saying "activate only if you have less life points than your opponant"
@@krvys7226 IK, this guy really doesn't understand the concept of Pokémon TCG. He probably hasn't bothered to read the rulebook yet
@@Shadow-rz5pb honestly, it's fine if he does or doesn't, and there is no shame in that.
All I did was provided the context he likely needed to discuss the card, as most Pokemon cards can have one to one examples in other games, and would be ridiculously strong in yu-gi-oh, which is his bread and butter.
So please don't act like an Elitist on a comment only meant to offer context. the idea is to make your preferred Card game more accessible to people through sharing knowledge. Not act Better than them because they didn't know something, and only trying to draw a comparison to something else.
TL;DR if he doesn't know something, Teach him, rather than trying to start some BS. especially on a 2-year-old video, where he may have even learned this game since.
"Tllows you to mulligan your hand at the cost of a card"
"You can put Garnet back in your deck, make Brilliant Fusion live again"
"I really like that idea"
We've had that idea since GX
And its name is Magical Mallet.
Thank God someone pointed this out I thought I was going mad
I mean depending on situation its way better since with magical mallet you got chance to draw the cards you shuffle into your deck but with caitlin you guarantee that they are at the bottom until next time you shuffle
Magical Mallet & Reload
9:20 other way around. More prize cards left means you are losing. So you would use it if your life points are lower, and is supposed to be a comeback card. I say supposed to because you can use LP for costs like the Solemns so tempo wise you could be in control of the game despite having less life points
But the real question is...what does Professor Oak do?
dbz439 Pot of Greed on speed, coke, and heroin
has he left yet.
Nope it's what does Bill do?
More like what does hao do
Lightning0 yep. Its Bill who is the exact same card as pot of greed. I would love to play bill today as a trainer item card (not a supporter). only thing is, yu-gi-oh decide to ban cards they think are too good every few months. while pokemon just says "You know what. let's "Rotate" out the oldest 4 expansions and make every single card (including commons) from those expansion unplayable." Yu-gi-ohs method of controlling OP cards seems a lot better.
Please do more of these, this is great, and happy birthday Cimoooooooo!!!
I love looking at cards from other games and seeing how they would work in yugioh. it shows how vastly different each games pace, and balance is, and makes you really appreciate the variety. if you want a slower game that ends with massive boards after a bunch of turns you have magic, if you want a fast paced explosive game, where you can just go off and play card after card you have yugioh, and pokemon is a nice balance of the two. i definitely loved this video cimooo, and would love for you to look at other card games. another interesting video idea you could do is looking at different legacy support thats come out and flopped hard in the competitive scene, and put yourself in the mindset of the time when that deck was at its best/worst and see if the support would of made the deck good/better back then.
Oh man, seeing a Yu-Gi-Oh player's reaction to Shaymin EX was amazing xD
And yes, that card was meta-dominating and expensive
Also, as for Ace Trainer, having MORE Prize Cards in Pokemon is like have LESS Life Points in Yu-Gi-Oh
"This has to be one of the better cards in the game."
It's literally everywhere in the meta right now.
8:54 that reaction is soooo priceless even though the card was meant for if you were losing the game.
12:18
Cimo, that’s just magical mallet
Not quite, Magical Mallet puts stuff on top of the deck
Who else wants a joke sequel where it's Tarot or standard 52 + jokers and he just makes up garbage that reasonably relates?
The world's power: draw 12 cards, Then burn your opponent's deck and slap them just to hammer the point home
TH-cam University ZA WARUDO
@@brunop.8745 the world's power: stop time. Eliminate Joestars
@@awesomemegaman WRYYYYY
I mean, we do have arcana force, not all cards are covered though... But we do have Dio using it
I see where Takahashi got the inspiration for the anime version of card of sanctity.
In Pokemon having more prize cards than your opponent means you're losing so that's why you draw 6 and your opponent draws 3 with Ace Trainer
the player who takes all their prize cards before their opponent, wins the game.
DKQuagmire I play the ptcg card ik
A cool follow-up/ continuation of this series you could do in the future would be to read up on the basic rules of these card games and look back at your initial impressions to see how close or far off you were on their power.
From a mainly Pokemon player that dabbles in Yu-Gi-Oh for entertainment, this is crazy just how far the Pokemon game has come to where we have the craziest cards that would just absolutely DESTROY another game.
more prize cards means you are behind, If i remember correctly.
Jeffrey Lott Wrong. First player to win all 6 Prize Cards in a battle wins,
Actually, by that explanation it would mean that you are behind seeing as you have more prize cards to win than your opponent.
yes, but that means that the more prizes you still have, the farther behind you are
by more prize cards I meant that they win, sorry for the confusion
More prizes = losing
No prizes = already won
He forgot to react to Propaganation Exeggcute....
Well, he would probably not think it's that amazing since he doesn't know the loophole, but it would still be fun to see him react to it.
From my experience, draw power is WAAAAAAY less important in Pokémon
Also Yu-Gi-Oh is far and away the most card advantage focused game I’ve ever seen. Most other TCGs that I’ve played are not anywhere near that focused on draws and stuff
Yu-Gi-Oh cards if they were in the pokemon tcg super duper busted.
1. Raigeki
Banned instantly as if you destroy all Pokemon your opponent controls you win.
2. Beelze of the Diabolic Dragons: Cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects gainst ATK if you take battle damage.
This card in pokemon would be utterly invincible and unbeatable once it hits the field so the opponent may as well Rage Quit.
3. Crystal wing Synchro Dragon: Negate a Pokemon's card effects and destroy it instantly.
Another ridiculously overpowered card that'll just steam roll pokemon like no tomorrow.
4. Thunder end dragon.
Detach 1, destroy all other pokemon. BUSTED!
5. Number 11 big eye: Take control of 1 pokemon your opponent controls.
Super duper evil to steal your opponents bosses to use against them.
6. Chaos Sorcerer: Banish 1 pokemon your opponent controls.
Throw them in the lost zone with no cost 🤣
7. Monster reborn: ((See Number 11 big eye))
8. Fiber Jar: Shuffle everything back in the deck and draw 5. Ehh
9. Cyber Jar: All Pokemon on the field dies and then both players draw 5 and summon pokemon reveled. A balanced card that'll screw the player over 50-50 chance.
10. Exchange of the spirit. Swap the deck and graveyard. BAANNED!!!
This is pretty objectively wrong, we've had many decks over the years that have either dominated the meta they were in, or warped the meta because of just raw card advantage. It's often the case where we just hit a critical mass were you see half or more of your deck in one turn.
Hex Maniac is soul drain, skill drain and Mind Drain all in one.
Play Yu-Gi-Oh! cards in Pokemon: Activate Raigeki, instant game win, activate Dark Hole, waste everyone's time.
MushyTehGamer
nothing In pokemon would KO a Pokemon immediately and if it did you can expect coin flips so maybe something like
Rageki [Trainer]
Flip a coin. If heads, put four damage counters on all your opponent's pokemon
damage counters are different from damage in that weakness and resistance doesn't apply and just marks down HP. this would have annihilated players years ago before basic pokemon started having on average 60+ HP. but it would still be really good.
Dark Hole would work the same only without the coin and your pokemon take four damage counters as well.
I was more making the joke of how the games are so stupidly different that trying to put cards from one into the other would require major nerf's on both sides.
Yu-Gi-Oh for example benefits from ridiculous amounts of removal and negation, while Pokemon benefits from en-masse ridiculous (Especially in comparison to YGO) consistency cards. If there was a card like Raigeki in Pokemon, you'd be right that it'd be drastically weaker and more luck based, comparatively, to a YGO alternative.
or using burning land in mtg lol.
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Happy Birthday Cimoooooooo! :)
Would be amazing to have a part II. Love the analysis and comparisons between the two games. Funny enough some of the cards seen are not considered competitive in Pokemon.
Brilliant video. Your reactions to some of these are the best part. Definitely consider trying this with other Trading Card Games.
I want that full-art Bianca now... 0.0
You should see Full art Lillie she draws cards until you have 6 cards in hand. but if it's your first turn of the game, you get 8 cards instead.
There was a full art lillie released last year and one released this year. this years one looks super cute :3
For ace trainer the equivalent to having “more prize cards” than your opponent would be having “less lifepoint” than your opponent. In Pokémon you want to have 0 prize cards that’s how you win.
So someone with “more prize cards” is actually losing.
Yeah as each prize card roughly translates to 1300 life points of the opposing player,
This card isn't actually all that broken
1:37 Spell Canceller: Am I chopped liver!?
What If Yu-Gi-Oh! Had Hex Cards?
maybe one day :(
Happy birthday Cimoooooooooo!
Make “What if yugioh had vanguard cards” :p
^
honestly while some analogies work pretty well (like stadium = field spell), you should note that many of the better trainer cards are supporters, and you can only activate one supporter per turn.
The thing about Pokemon is that you generally need more cards to set up than in Yugioh, and OTKs don't exist so more draw cards are necessary to keep the game moving. Also, you can only play 1 supporter per turn so it kind of balances it out a little. But yeah... if these cards existed in Yugioh it would be nuts!
caugh caugh sableye otk anyone
Technically OTK exist in Pokemon if the opponent only have 1 active Pokemon and no Pokemon on the bench, heck, even FTK could happen because you could attack on the first turn of the game, but they banned that like 5 years ago.
You can take all 6 of your prizes in a single turn but it needs a ton of setup. Also, Stormfromt Machamp+Broken Time-space from 2009-2010 (I think) was an FTK because you could attack going first back then and a board wipe is a win in Pokémon. Yes, it was broken
Anyone: What about prize card?
Me: *Laughs in reset stamp*
Those full art bae's 😍😍
the women are gorgeous. you should search Skyla. Her breasts are literally bursting out. thanks. need that in a children's card game.
William Sleight Yeah, they should've done the link monsters like this instead of lazily using blue frames again.
The card art in Pokemon is 500x better my dude. Holos and reverses that actually look good, full arts, secret rares, and hyper rares. Yu-Gi-Oh cards look like something you would find in deviantart...
itube141 Nah, I wouldn't say that. There's plenty of great art in yugioh
full art yugioh cards would be really awesome! but theres plenty good yugioh card art :D Im a big fan of the pokemon videogames and as a kid the anime, but I think I prefer the yugioh card art with kind of a range of cute to serious art, and a bit more detailed too :)
"Zoroark GX has to be one of the best cards in the game"
18 months later, the card has now passed from Standard; but not only was it the best card in Standard, it remains the best card ever printed
I dunno about that, I feel like Shaymin EX was WAY better than that since it was a basic rather than a Stage 1.
@@ChaoticMeatballTV Zoroark GX was a repeatable effect and had 100 more HP than Shaymin
@@irismarin8613 Shaymin could go back to the hand by attacking with a double colorless, allowing you to use it again, as well as having Super Scoop Up and AZ to pick it up if you don't have access to a DCE.
@@ChaoticMeatballTV But Zoroark didn't need any of that, and using Sky Return meant you only did 30 damage (without the Quaking Punch bonus)
@@irismarin8613 But it was a Stage 1, which made it much more of a hassle to play, I understand its good, but Shaymin was better, just look at the values of the cards at their most prominent, and you'll see Shaymin trounce Zoroark
+Cimoooooooo the object of pokemon is to obtain all 6 of your prize card, or knock out your opponents pokemon so if theres none on the bench they lose. At 9:20 that's a way for you, if you're losing to get back into the game
Love these videos! Keep up the good work and happy birthday!!!!
Darkworlds would be crazy af
Bruh activate professor oak discard 3 snow 2 broww
Add that card that shuffles the monster from grave back to deck plus all thoose draw power cards and dark world would easily dominate current meta
pretty sure it would be a cost to discard and not an effect
Nah the card to is like card destruction nd darkworlds get their effects off of card destruction so yea its not a cost
Well darkworld wouldn't work with most of these as to get their effs discarding has to be the last thing that happens, so if you discard THEN draw no DW effs pop
I just played PokemonTCG on PC and the draw power is insane compare to Yu Gi Oh.... however the game is nice and all.....but Yu Gi Oh is THE BEST!!!!
D/DimensionPenguin well pokemane has 60 card decks though and bricks hella easy hence all the draw power.
William Sleight Yeah I know... and whit the fact that "supporter" cards can be used once per turn, whit only one Pokemon in play plus the fact that you can activate only one energy card per turn really limits your play even whit this draw power.....but without all this limitations in Yu Gi Oh it is for good that these type of draw card doesn't exist
William Sleight not to mention energy takes up a good portion of the deck. Draw power in pokemon is really high but isn't as broken as it would be in yugioh.
Probaly a lil easier to manage without that much traps,
But yugioh had more fun archtypes to mess around
I need professor oak to start playing Yugioh seriously.
When he talks about Caitlin being good when it is effectively the same as magical mallet which is trash in Yugioh and also takes up your supporter for the turn.
I mean Caitlin puts garnets back into your deck so they can be used from your deck and it prevents you from drawing those garnets since they go to the bottom magical Mallet just spins them back so honestly I would say Caitlin would be slightly better than magical mallet simply because of that ability to put those garnets back and keep yourself from drawing them
I'm surprised you didn't get to any of the "draw 3" cards.
One thing that keeps Pokemon somewhat balanced is a set rotation after Worlds every year. Keeps cards like Computer Search and Shaymin EX from being too good for too long in Standard.
Yeah Yu-Gi-Oh has a Banlist instead which is by far better then set rotations, as dzeef has already explained or are you just here cause "PoKEmON" was in the title?
That also a downside,
You need to keep consistantly updating your deck,
Where yugioh didnt had rotation but old card sometimes will get powercrepted by new card.
Best Video ever, since I play both Yugioh and Pokemon TCG :D And happy Birthday Cimoooo
These videos are great getting to watch cimoooooooo freak out over cards that aren't even good in their own game
Now do it with Dragon Ball Super or Vanguard cards
Bruh, super leaders with their "draw every time you attack" would blow his mind haha
And fucking 7-drop Beerus omg
Vanguard wouldn't be as epic as these tho, most of their effects arent as busted...HOWEVER playing by Yugi rules most of VG cards can just OTK by sheer power
Therra Nolleo Seeing his reaction to Chronovisor Heritage's extra turn skill would be fun though.
THAT would be hilarious
*Activate professor Oak / sycamore / juniper
Discard our hand; draw 7 cards
Discard hand as cost
*Ash
Fun fun fun
Mattias Lindgren one advantage Pokemon has over yugioh, cards like professor oak can be activated while they're the only card in your hand. No min. 1 clause.
Duuh iknow , i play it
Also Graveyard effects don't exist in Pokémon right?
@@BramLastname some VERY specific pokémon have effects in the grave, but yeah, most part of effects activate when they are summoned from hand or once per turn on the field
@@ChoccyMilk1940 Well pokémon has more cards than Yugioh (ofcourse most of them are just the same pokemon with different moves and stuff)
So if you can literally count the amount of cards with Graveyard effects on one hand
It isn't unreasonable to say it's more like banishing in Yugioh.
Yugi: "My grandpa's deck has no pathetic cards, but it does contain... the unstoppable Professor Oak!"
The effects would be ok, if they would be attached to appropriate monsters. Pretty much all of them would be: "This card cannot be Normal Summoned. This card can only be be Special Summoned by sending "Specific Monster X" (which was Normal Summoned) to your GY. You cannot Summon other monsters the turn you Special Summon this card".
All Trainer-cards are limited to 1 per turn and you cannot activate any cards during your opponents turn, which makes their effects fair for this game.
TheTrueLeafless A small adjustment. SUPPORTERS are only one per turn, Items are not.
I wonder how Pidgeot, Octillery and Zoroark would work if they used a level mechanic from the TCG. Or just simply tribute the basic Pokemon for like Zoroark or Octillery. Maybe Pidgeot can do level using a 2 star Pidgey, 4 star Pidgeotto etc
Or be like Level monsters.
AznYunHou itd probably be just like red eyes b. Chick
@@CheeseTank12 More like that yeah
Karen would be a really fun side deck option.
And I agree Full art cards are very nice, if we don’t ever get ghost rares back, some full art chase cards would be cool.
It's just a shame that Karen actually sees no play at the moment, because there's no decks in the current format that rely on stuff being in the discard pile. in pokemons second format, which lets you use cards from 2011, this card is a must have in every deck, because there are quite a few cards with big attacks which are based on what's in the discard pile.
*Looks at Saryuja*
I think we're already there
happy birthday dood also this was fun to see how busted they would be
A note on teammates: There are no ways to out a monsters outside of combat in Pokemon, which is a big difference in valuation of the card. In addition, unless your opponent is playing height-of-power Death March, it is usually going to take a couple of turns before this card can be played, while in Yugioh this comes up nearly every turn. One final note: Pokemon being knocked out leads to collection of prize cards, AKA the win condition. Knocking out a pokemon brings you closer to victory and gives you an effective +2, so this is a balancing thing (unfair because it makes things fair.)
Some Pokémon cards are broken af and foolish burial on crack 😂 priceless
wait, looking back at this, underground explorer + any adamancipator tuner seems busted
I love how you go full Cimo mode and go into depth of the power of these cards in the context of Yugioh. You appearing to be serious about it makes it funnier
To be fair, Pokemon is not only slower than MTG and Yu-Gi-Oh, but it's physically impossible to OTK in Pokémon unless you can somehow attack three times in one turn with an EX-style Pokemon. I don't think that's doable.
Actually it is possible to OTK that doesn't involve prizes. If you can KO your opponents pokemon and they don't have any on the bench, you win.
+ForeverRanger 91 True, but that's more due to the opponent having a bad deck (or being unlucky) than you having an OTK style deck.
Some Pokemon have moves that damage both Active and Bench Pokemon. It would be extremely situational, but it's possible for, say, the Gyarados with Berserker Splash to KO the Active Pokemon and all the enemy's Bench at the same time (and possibly your own Bench, since the bleed effect happens to both sides).
Sam, I'm on a tablet right now so explanations must be brief, but understand that, in the Pokemon TCG you *lose* if you ever have *no* Pokemon in play. Also, things like Pokémon-EX and Pokémon-GX are worth *2* Prizes when KO'd.
I remembered people tried to build Guzzlord otk or Latios otk deck,
But it only works in expanded tho
I like how he doesn't even get yo the broken cards lol
Omg yes, you did it! :D And happy birthday!
I enjoy all your videos & LOVE banlist Roulette but watching this & the what if Magic the Gathering had Yu-Gi-Oh cards video have never made me laugh so hard in my life. Today my day wasn't so great so I needed a good laugh & you were able to brighten my day, in fact you made me laugh so hard I couldn't breathe.
Pokemon tips.
1) Trainer cards can only be used once per turn, so YGO kinda doesnt have an equivalent.
2) Pokemon doesnt have an equivalent to trap cards.
3) Item Cards would be the Spell Card of Pokemon, because u have no limitation on using them in a turn.
4) Pokemon is different, since it has no M2, u attack = end turn.
5)Having more prize cards left equivalent to YGO is having less Life Points.
6) You need to consider the fact that Pokemon has 60 card decks and draw/search effects are more common.
P.S. Can you do a "What if YuGiOh had Cardfight Vanguard cards?" next? :D #Cimoooooooo
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Isn't it kind of already? Essentially vanguard is what would happen if Yugioh stopped pretending they care about anything but monsters, but atleast gave better generic support and worked on old unattended ones like Gemini and Union
Item cards=normal spells. Supporter cards have that hard once per turn on steroids clause
So, three things: Most of the cards you showed were Supporters, and what you failed to mention (even though it's written on every single Supporter) was that you can only play one Supporter per turn. And no, I don't mean you can't play the same Supporter twice, I mean that once you played one Supporter, you can't play any more until your next turn. So you couldn't play Teammmates and Ghetsis in the same turn, for example. So there's that bit of inherent balancing.
Also, in regards to Computer Search: The version of the card you showed was from Base Set, the very first set of the game. The most recent version of that card made it an "Ace Spec," which are meant to be immensely powerful cards...but you can only have a single Ace Spec in your deck. And again, that doesn't mean only one copy of that card, it means only one Ace Spec, period. So, if you put Search in your deck, you can't take any other powerful Ace Spec card.
Then there's also the fact that some of these effects are nerfed just by how the game works. Like Pidgeot for example. Pidgeot is a Stage 2 Pokémon, and the effect only works if it's your active Pokémon. So first of all: In the Pokémon TCG, your Pokémon in play are either active, or on your Bench. There can only be one active Pokémon per player, and only up to five on the bench. And to switch Pokémon out (i.e. putting your active Pokémon on the bench and a benched Pokémon in the active spot), you have to discard Energy Cards attached to the Active Pokémon. You can only play one Energy Card per turn, and Pokémon need Energy attached to them to attack. And Pokémon have different phases. Basic Pokémon are the ones you can just play from your hand onto the bench, but Stage 1 and Stage 2 Pokémon are ones you have to play on top of their respective Pokémon. And you can't evolve a Pokémon you just played. So, imagine if in Yu-Gi-Oh, you could only Tribute Summon a monster by tributing a *specific* other Monster. But that's not the only thing, because Pokémon take damage, and keep that damageeven when evolving, and reducing 6 of your opponent's Pokémon's HP to 0 is how you win. And generally, only the Active Pokémon can be damaged, benched ones are safe. So, to take advantage of Pidgeot's effect, you'd first need to have a Pidgey in hand, and play it on your bench (assuming it's not your starting Pokémon). Then you'd have to wait a turn AND need a Pidgeotto in your hand to evolve your Pidgey. Then you'd have to wait another turn AND need a Pidgeot in hand to evolve Pidgeotto. And THEN your active Pokémon would need to have enough Energy attached to it to pay it's Retreat Cost, you'd have to discard that Energy and THEN you could actually use Pidgeot's effect. It's not as easy as just summoning or Tribute summoning a monster in Yu-Gi-Oh. Heck, even Fusion Summoning, or maybe even RITUAL Summoning would be easier.
The video is if these effs were in Yu-Gi-Oh not how the Pokemon tcg works and how good the cards are in pokemon
Yes, but you can't just take the effects written like they're on the card and transpose them 1:1 to Yu-Gi-Oh. Because those cards *have* effects that balance them out, it's just that these effects don't need to be spelled out, it's just due to how the game works. Hell, the supporters even explicitly spell that out. So, Professor Oak (who is here shown in his base set form, but who in the modern game would be a supporter) wouldn't just say "Discard your hand, draw 7 cards." It would probably be a spell card with a name like "Supporter: Professor Oak" and say "Discard your hand, draw 7 cards. You can only play 1 "Supporter" card per turn." Trevenant wouldn't just say "Your opponent can't play Spell Cards", it would say "Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 1 "Phantump" Monster Card you control. This monster cannot be summoned the same turn the Phantump tributed to summon it was summoned. As long as this monster is in Attack Position, your opponent cannot play Normal Spell Cards." Ignoring these inherent rules and acting as if Supporters would be normal Spells, and Stage 1 and 2 Pokémon would be Monsters you can just Normal Summon would be like making "what if Magic had Yu-Gi-Oh cards?" and then taking a bunch of Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, Link and Ritual Monsters, or Monsters with other inherent Special Summoning conditions, and assuming that they would all be Creatures with a Mana cost of 0, i.e. assuming that you could get, I dunno, all three Egyptian Gods on the field in the first turn. Twice. Or taking Field Spells and treating them just like Enchantments, meaning you could have unlimited Field Spells out at once.
I know this is just for fun, and all, but again, you can't say "these effects would be so OP!" and then basically ignore half the effect of the card.
(and yeah, of course Cimo couldn't have known the whole Stage 1, Stage 2 thing, and such, but the "one Supporter per turn" effect is PRINTED ON THE CARDS!)
Valtharr yeah you totally can, in YU-GI-OH these effects are so busted it wouldn't matter how you try to balance it, it's still busted, and the way youre trying to say the cards would be in Yu-Gi-Oh is how they would NEVER be printed because Konami would want the cards to sound good and they dont make too many cards with stupid summoning conditions, and in magic a field spell would be an enchantment, and you can have as many enchantments as YOU WANT, THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE VIDEO, YOU CRETIN, IS TO SHOW HOW BUSTED CARDS FROM OTHER GAMES ARE IN DIFFERENT GAMES NOT TO SIT HERE AND TRY MAKE UP RULINGS AND EFFECTS FOR THAT CARD BUT TAKING THE EFFECT AT FACE VALUE AND SAYING "WHAT IF THIS WAS IN MY GAME?"
BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THESE EFFECTS WORK! Just because something's not explicitly written on the card doesn't mean that card doesn't have the effect! Just because Dark Magician doesn't have an effect that says "This card can only be Normal Summoned by tributing two Monsters you control" doesn't mean you can just play on the field from your hand! Just because it doesn't say "After you Normal Summoned this Monster, you cannot Normal Summon any other Monsters this turn" doesn't mean you can Normal Summon any number of Monsters your turn! If you only take the advantages into account, while ignoring all the drawbacks, OF COURSE the cards will be OP! And again, especially in the case of Supporters, it's not even like you have to know the rules of the game, since *the "one Supporter per turn" rule is explicitly printed on every card!*
Yeah, sure, some of those cards would still be incredibly strong, but again, it's pointless to just look at the good stuff without acknowledging what actually makes these cards balanced!
Valtharr no those are just rulings, not EFFECTS, it is a rule that to normal summon a 7 star monster you need two tributes, that is NOT AN EFFECT
The thing about hex maniac is, you can do all your ability-related stuff (like the pidgeot search, the zoroarch draw, or the shaymin COP) and then Hex Maniac before attacking to make this effectively one-sided.
First of all happy birthday cimooooooo,🎉 and second when i saw the title since i´ve been playing pokemon TCG for some months now and i already know some of the cards that was coming here on the list, i didn´t know some of them since i´am currently in the standard format as it calls so i do not know them well enough, but yes they are totally busted that´s for sure great video a like from here.👍🏻
Happy Birthday Cimoooooooo!!!!
And by the way can you do "What if yugioh had Dragonball Super Cards"
I would love to see this guy react to reading Dialga GX's GX move... He would flip the table like Trif, hands down
Magic has some cards with effects like “First Ticket”, such as some of the cards in the Conspiracy sets, as well as Serum Powder. Really neat ideas that could see some play in yugioh.
Cimo was spot on with Zoroark-GX being a Tier 1 card
Please make a part 2 :)
there are so many more good pokemon cards, that yu-gi-oh fans would want to see in their game. or would want to insta ban in their game, like Professor Oak for instance. that card was insane. and it was released in the very first pokemon expansion.
Dialga GX hehehe
I always like thinking about this.
one of my favs is N, Each player shuffles his or her hand into his or her deck. Then, each player draws a card for each of his or her remaining Prize cards. So I just play as many cards as I can, activate it and draw a whole new hand. Also can mess up your opponent if they had searched or key cards in hand.
You’ve got to keep doing these MTG and Pokémon card series. They’re amazing.
Hex Maniac would be like Cold Wave + Skill Drain + Mind Drain + … Necrovalley?
McMexicans the only downside is you can only play 1 supporter a turn so most of that big draw isnt possible on the same turn
9:20 actually the player with less price cards is the one in advantage
I love these borderline heart attacks some YGO players get when they look at PKMs draw effects xD
I would compare supporter cards to traps. You can only use one supporter per turn but they are powerful
This whole video I was waiting on him to see base set professor oak lol
How about doing cardfight vanguard next
Also happy birthday
Happy birthday love your videos
I love watching these videos because I understand Pokémon tcg
What cards have the biggest discrepancy between how powerful they are in isolation and how good they really are? I'm rather curious.
TH-cam University what do you mean?
Misty's determination (the discard 1, look at the top 8, take 1) and battle compressor (the drop 3 from the deck). One of them is absolute shit and the other one CAN be really good.
The main problem with Misty's determination is of course that it's a straight -1, and since there aren't actually any powerful enough cards in the game to compensate that 100% percent of the time, it can be not worth it some times. "So what", you'd say, "I get to search for any of the top 8 cards in my deck, that's pretty busted". The thing is misty's determination is a SUPPORTER card, which you can play only one of per turn. The problem with that? The good supporters can either be straight +6es (discard hand, draw 7), get a ridiculous level of disruption (shuffle both players hands into the deck, get each player to draw 1-6 cards depending on how close they are to winning) or some other type of really powerful effects that can't really be translated to yugioh. That's like deciding whether to spend your normal summon on your combo starter or on beaver warrior.
Battle compressor is actually really good, in the sense than you can thin your deck down 3 cards, but in most formats there's no way to take advantage of the cards in your discard, except for expanded, where Vs Seeker, the item that lets you pick a supporter from the discard is a thing. It's obviously a staple there. There has been actually an archetype that took crazy advantage of battle compressor, though. It relied on having pokémon with the same move discarded in order to deal massive damage, it was pretty busted. It has rotated out of format a good time ago though so it's now in our memories (and nightmares)
I mean, Chargestone, when you first read the card, it seems OP, but in practice it's worthless trash, or when you first read it, it seems like worthless trash, but in practice, it's completely OP.
TH-cam University bunch of stage 2(the first card in the video for example) cause they are harder to actually get off or weaker draw supporter(cheren, tierno, hau that let you straight up draw 3) cause there are faster ones and you can only play 1 supporter a turn
they are the 2 ways a strong sounding effect isnt that great
Daniel Wappner Misty was pretty good when searching for special energy before energy loto
4:16 つ ◕◕ ༽つ AMANO IWATO ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ
And you say that because you haven't saw Nest Ball:
Item card: Search your deck for a Basic Pokémon and put it onto your Bench. Then, shuffle your deck.
Basically Special Summon one level 4 or lower monster from your deck, yeah that's fair.
Love your Chanel Cimoooo!!!
In my experience with Pokémon, the draw power is absurd, and the searching is pretty good, but the translation of this into board presence is lacking because of the much Slower summoning and the one monster attacking rule (which only happens when they have enough energy...). So if you are going to jack off to the draw power in Pokémon, be prepared to be blue balled by the slow summoning mechanics...
Meme King this isn't about the Pokemon tcg, it's if these effects WERE IN YU-GI-OH not your gay little game, every ygo player Jack's off to draw power cause we're not allowed to have ANY
SiphonicAtom my point is that this ‘gay little game’ can afford to have the draw power, because of its slow summoning. Inferring that this draw power, in yugioh, would be broke due to the faster summoning
Meme King it's not even due to the slow summons lmao it's because you're forced to run Mana are you thick?
SiphonicAtom energy, and also there is only one Pokémon allowed to attack at a time. There are a lot of factors that make it slow. And yes I am thicc
Meme King
Exactly. if yugioh was one monster attacks per turn essentially making everything malefic, and they needed conditions to attack at all to translate to energy, who fucking cares how many cards you can draw?
hell yugioh players bitch now about stun and flood gates. Pokemon is nothing but stun and flood gates. Pokemon atleast knows what it is. Yugioh players have the worst meta but the biggest mouths
Vanguard next!
Happy birthday Cimooooo! I would imagine that F.As would have a field day with delinquent, being able to discard field spells which then float, and then discarding cards from the opponent's hand. Going first, if you play 2 of them, your opponent would have no hand lol.
Happy Birthday Cimooooooooo
Greetings from germany
Nice Video. I'm happy you made it.
For the Ace Trainer card : In pokemon tcg you Win when you have no price cards left so having more price cards would be Equal to lower life points ;)
I would like to see what if yu-gi-oh had cardfight vanguard cards.
Imagine removing the link zone until the end of the opponent's turn with Lock; banishing an ennormous ammount of cards from field,hand and gy like Narukami; replaying cards(and effects) during battle phase like Bermuda; the extra monter zone+attack+draw1 from Accel2 markers. Nuba's Dominate. and all the superior call, restanding and etc...
@@pinkdaruma8942 oh god that would be bad
The "First Ticket" is bad in Pokemon as well as It would be in Yugioh since (in both tcgs) we roll the dice *before* drawing the starting hand. LOL
Yeah, but that's a recent change.
Yea the ruling was different back in Dragons Vault era where you set up first and then decided who went first
if you draw it opening hand, just reveal it and overrule the die roll.
Since when in ygo do we roll dice to decide who goes 1st lmao
You could still use it as a handtrap to make yourself go first,
But it can only be activated during the first standby phase of the duel.
Shuffle all Pokémon in your opponents grave into the deck
Me:laughs in timelord we already have that
I remember once I was playing Pokemon at the game store and one of the Magic players came up and said he loves that card Professor Sycamore. ''If you could discard your hand and draw 7 in MTG, the game would be over right then.''
It would have cuter artwork....
Sylvans Tier Zero