If the rule against beards is unscriptural, then it has always been unscriptural. The GB should apologize for making and enforcing an unscriptural rule for over 100 years. I was even told that I could not help at the literature counter because my sideburns were to long. But of course we know that they won't apologize.
While the GB claim they are neither inspired nor infallible, their refusal to ever apologize for _anything_ betrays that claim as a big pile of bovine residue: _"Refusing to admit our mistakes is _*_like claiming infallibility’_*_ ...No one can maintain the respect of others if he insists that he is right even when confronted with an obvious mistake. _*_How can anyone have confidence_*_ in a person who he knows from experience will even _*_sacrifice the truth just to give the appearance that he is right?"_* Watchtower 1988 12/1 p. 22
Referring to the rhetorical question posed at about 1:30, or so, in this podcast-why would an “intelligent person”. That’s the point, NO intelligent person would think/speak that way! As to why ANYONE would do so…well there are many mentality challenged people, and many reasons for that state of mind 😆… I’m half expecting an announcement from the gb that now, thanks to new light, women jws are now allowed to wear beards, even moustaches 😂…
They judge their flock by their outward appearance. No homeless person would be welcome there. They have nothing to contribute to the organisation. Jesus was a servant of the homeless and lost souls.
It's even worse than uniformity. As WT attorney Hayden Covington admitted in court (the 1954 Douglas Walsh Trial) regarding WT's demand that all JWs accept WT false prophecies and doctrines, Prosecuting attorney, Q. _"A unity based on an _*_enforced acceptance_*_ of false prophecy?"_ Hayden Covington, A. _"That is conceded to be true."_ In other words, JWs are FORCED to accept WT doctrines, even when those doctrines are absolutely wrong.
Did anyone else catch the contradiction with him saying (in other words) that people should have waited for them to give direction, while he also said that the whole reason they made the statement with new direction was because JWs were questioning it? These guys are trippin. 🤦♀️🤦♀️
The GB demand that JWs all be *united in error* until the GB gets around to finally figuring out what many of the rank-and-file already figured out years or decades earlier.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 Pretty much. I have a JW parent that keeps bringing up the unity thing and I made this exact point and asked them if we should be united in error. It's hard for those that are indoctrinated to even comprehend that it is in error, though. They are blinded by the new light.
@@alishaba- GB member Geoffrey Jackson stated under oath at the ARC hearings that, if the GB teaches something that is in error and not found in the Bible, "all" of Jehovah's Witnesses will immediately correct them. Of course, this is a lie. How are JWs supposed to correct the GB if JWs are ordered to simply get in line, shut up, and wait on the GB to change the doctrine, no matter how long it takes?
@@vintage6346 Hi, you have asked me similar questions on multiple threads, so I have posted my response on the original thread you're citing. For anyone who wants to find it, the title of the video is: Historian Jim Penton discusses Jehovah's Witnesses during the Nathan Knorr/Fred Franz presidencies This was posted Mar 13, 2020 by Beroean Pickets.
I have a co-worker who is a MS, when he saw me with a beard, he called me over and asked “are you still my Brother?” This announcement is absolutely comical to me as this interaction was only a few months ago. Imagine the determining factor of being a Christ follower is weather or not you have a clean shaven face.. Sad.
The elders at the Liverpool, Nova Scotia kingdom Hall advised a long time ago that beards were forbidden because beards weren't popular during the 1970's and when on the door to door service a beard would detract the householder from the presentation. A man during this time who was attending the meetings as an interested person left and never came back because he refused to shave his beard.
Just off topic, met a CO just a while ago, and the dude couldn't even say a greeting. He acted as if I was total stranger and yet I hosted him three times with my family before my divorce. Damn I need that food back.
True fact. Rutherford and Knorr hated beards so much they even had Jesus clean shaven for a number of years in the publications. The real reason Rutherford changed his view on having facial hair was because of Russell. Rutherford had to purge the Society of most things related to Russell, especially considering that everyone still looked to Russell as the faithful slave. When Rutherford published that the faithful slave was a class of people (the 144,000) in the August Watchtower of 1927, he systematically expunged Russell, his writings, the cross and Christmas. Also, Rutherford had a more CORPORATE-MINDSET, than a spiritual one. The majority of the mandates/rules/regulations of the watchtower is based on his ideology (mainly personal and not scripturally based).
The governing body causes divisions then condemns everyone else by gaslighting them to stop causing divisions, which they never caused from the at all, but the governing body causes by constantly changing the goal posts and calls all who don't go along with the changes apostated or divisive. Psychological violence is not in the criminal code or the provincial code or the regional acts so it's jyst fine for the watchtower to drive everyone in their society crazey.
"gaslighting?" Like when they said "we never said the GT was coming in 1975. You just got too excited." It works every time they do it! Paul's words apply: "You put up with whoever enslaves you, devours your possessions, grabs what you have.2 cor 11:19,20
growing up I never understood the policy on beards when the illustrations in the watchtower and awake depicted Jesus, the angels and men of old with beards?
I am in constant amazement at Holy God’s daily destruction of all that is not of Him, in preparation for the soon return of Son, our King. Thank you Almighty Father for exposing these vagabonds to the Bride of Christ. The catholic organisation is undergoing the same shaking. Unfortunately, those sheep are clinging onto the man made rituals by their fingernails, ignoring that the shepherds are leading them over barbed wire, rocks and plunging them into valleys. Not by still waters and good grazing fields and thus obtaining rest. Woe to the paid hirelings. When the King returns from afar……… So be of good cheer brethren. The truth has been released and His word shall not return void.
Thanks Eric for your succinct analysis of the "new light" on beards. I really enjoyed the experience of the Christie congregation - such a good example of what happens when someone questions anything that the organization promotes - there will be consequences!!. Thanks for telling us about Jerome's channel - will check it out! "Be patient, wait on Jehovah, leave it in Jehovah's hands" - disgusting advice - that is also what they tell victims of child sexual abuse! 😠
Wauw , praise God ! The governing body has discovered that beards are allowed and that the Bible doesn’t condemn wearing a beard ! Praise God for this marvelous light finally shining into this dark world ! While the Christians world is still in darkness whether wearing a beard is scriptural or not , Jws are so blessed being guided by these spiritual snipers ! Man I better got back with Jehovahs organization, I am missing some life saving directions.
Do we know how many brothers were looked down on because they were allergic to razors and could not clean shave? As adolescents we were told to get rid of those beards otherwise we would not be assigned talks..... If we indicated to comment with a little beard ... we could feel the coldness towards us if we were called on at all..... Can we imagine being discriminated and shunned because of the way Jehovah made us??? By his own organization??? I can hardly believe that I was really alive for almost 50 years in .....and it never dawn on me that this was strange.....
Eric, excellent job on this video. I have dealt with this for many years. I am especially disturbed by the lack of an apology for the damage this policy has caused. I became inactive a few years ago and decided to try to reactivate myself after nearly a year of not going out in the ministry. During this time I grew a well trimmed beard. When I showed up one Saturday morning ready to go in the ministry, instead of experiencing the love and excitement that the congregation should show for a “ lost sheep “ who was trying to return, I had people telling the elders not to assign them to be in the same service group as me or my family. When I found out about it and asked the elders, they stood by the people who were offended by me and acted like I was the problem. Modern day Pharisees. Thank you so much for your videos and the great work that you are doing.
Saying men can't wear beards because some men that did were associated with rebellion is like saying sisters can't wear dresses because of cross-dressers or 'trans' people.
That mandate came from the same GB that tells rank and file JWs to mind their own business about health recommendations and to not promote personal views about medical decisions. But, that didn't stop the GB from doing it anyway. Hypocrites.
My wife to be, from the Philippines, was a member of the INC which is a very jw like church group in the Philippines. She was kicked out after leaving her very abusive husband and is now a member of the C of E here in the UK and is going to be christened next year when we get her citizenship sorted out. She cannot believe the freedom my church gives her, nobody tells her how to dress or how to wear her hair, she's not forced to give her money and isn't forced to believe anything she doesn't want to. My local vicar will discuss theology for a week given the chance🥰 and won't make her leave the church if she disagrees on a certain point like the INC would.
Enjoyed your well rounded reasoning on the matter. Thank you. Part of this GB change is in part of a membership retention/recruitment problem they own. Male help is in short supply as youth are not involved as years ago. Growth is flat. They need help to make the congregational processes to simply work. Just an opinion.
That sounds right to me. I'd known one brother who tangled with Watchtower during the war (1967). He was finally made a ministerial servant recently at 70 years old. The Society seems to really need male help.
During Steve Lett's talk, he mentioned the concept of "Promoting Unit". However, it raises the question of whether it matters when you promote teachings that are not in the Bible. If you are promoting doctrines of men that is unscriptual. The brothers have a right to call you out for promoting unscriptural teachings. It is important to note that the Bible does not advocate for unity for the sake of unity alone.
Unity means bringing things together. Unified means making a single unit. Lett may have misunderstood the meaning while directing JWs as to how to think & feel about this, or any, subject 🥴😵💫
@@TallKulWmn1, Yep. I would have to agree Lett believes that we should be unity with a group of men who are neither inspired or nor infallible instead of the Most High and his Son.
The gratitude felt by the rank and file for the privilege of wearing a beard reminds me of Stockholm Syndrome where the captives are so controlled and abused that when their captor/ abuser allows them a small token of humanity like getting out of the cage or eating at the table, the captive is so grateful for the privilege it causes a psychological bond to the abuser. Note: if you feel overwhelmingly grateful for something that should have been a basic human right in the first place, you may be in an abusive relationship/ religion.
Encore une fois Éric, merci pour vos analyses pertinentes et bienveillantes qui aident à panser ses plaies psychologiques après avoir quitté ce tentaculaire mouvement religieux qu'est la WT. Merci beaucoup !
Thank You Google Translate! "Once again Eric, thank you for your pertinent and benevolent analyses that help to heal his psychological wounds after leaving this sprawling religious movement that is the WT. Thank you very much!" (I only understand "Merci beaucoup" and "Parlez-vous français")
They used to tell black sisters not to where they own natural hair because around the time of the of the black panther movement many black women started present themselves as they naturally are as far as hair even though it wasn't acceptable to wyt people. So a fro was considered a no no lol their racist past is still very much so the current reality. They only depict white men with BEARDs in heaven lol
As an elder (with a mustache) I was told that white men could not have facial hair!!! I left that congregation about 40 years ago (but not over the mustache). It was controlled by an Alpha Elder (former CO) and his deputy Alpha elder, his son-in-law and former Bethelite. I wrote the WT society about many improprieties taking place. "Headquarters" did not respond to me but forwarded my letter to this Big Shot who told us that he just threw my letter into the trash and none of that other elders would ever see it or any other letters I might write. By then, I saw the Wolves that Jesus warned us about and I was done with them. But my wife (and assistant) called the HQ in New York but she was promptly hung up on! Then she called our CO who refused to talk to her. Recently we were relieved to hear that after we left that congregation, all of those "Elders" were removed (along with some good but passive (fearful?) elders, and the entire congregation was "disbanded." Sadly, the problems were much wider than I could have imagined, eventually involving lies, slander, cover-ups, adultery, molestation, incest and suicides. But at least those "Elders" were UNITED when they were removed. Unity is not good when you are united in evil in a pack of wolves.
You nailed it Alpha male decides everything that happens in the congregation who is appointed to serving position's who has the so called privileges for do other assignments. The sad part is they always say the elders are different ages and from diverse walks of life. Which is laughable because they are irrelevant because long term Alpha male makes all major decisions and the less experienced newly appointed are scared of losing their privileges so they meekly go along. Then we have other elders who have been serving but won't tell Alpha male he's not being very humble which as we know is wrong if I see or feel someone isn't doing the right thing we should speak up . The same with disfellowshiping the decision was already made before the meeting. Thankfully I saw through this nonsense but wasted so much time. But they did get the religion a snare and a racket right. And I just faded got fed up with the hypocrisy and when I started reading the NKJV Bible it contains the true message of Christ and hasn't any agenda just the true Truth
Child molesters love it when you "wait on Jehovah!" You give them a free pass by following an unscriptural "Governing Body." Jesus is my only leader. Jesus didn't wait. He did what he could do at that time. He healed the sick and resurrected the dead. And he denounced the blind guides saying, "You are from your Father, the Devil." Don't be an apologist for Wolves in sheep's clothing or you will receive their fate when "Jehovah handles it" thru Christ Jesus our Lord. @@joseph_miller
I attended the International Convention in Montreal during the summer of 1978. We saw men with full but well groomed beards. We were told they were elders and beards were accepted in that area. I guess not. This organization spends too much time on mundane issues so they don't have to address the really serious issues!
It is called distraction! Our JW PIMO friends don't even know about the child molestations and multi-million dollar court decisions or the sales of Kingdom Halls to pay the courts, Or the evidence shredding to destroy evidence. Blind guides leading the willfully blind into a pit
Rutherford created that rule and it was because he hated Taz Russell and Taz Russell had a beard so Rutherford didn’t want anybody around him to remind him of TA Russell.
What a mess! This rule on beards should have never existed in the first place. Jehovah God created man to have facial hair. It was not a chia seed that you put on your face, and it grew a beard. It was all natural. Created by God. Watchtower's man made rules cause more divisions than it solves. Thanks for bringing this out in your presentation.
How many wives would allow their husband, to tell them there is no reason for me to apologize to you, I am imperfect and make mistakes? Go ask 10 thousand wives that Question and see if there is any consensus on that. It is remarkable that the GB even said that.
I’m in that exact position. The PIMI narcissist I’m married to informed me, “he would apologize if he’d done anything wrong”. 50 years of marriage& never has he seen a need for an apology. He’s a JW 😢
I have heard the word “duped” several times now from different people. My own father (elder for 60 years) used this word twice when he was very ill and on his death bed. It makes me wonder what he was struggling with before he died.
I was told I couldn’t be an elder and go congregation too congregation too give talks because I had a super low beard.now my beard is medium and I’m already remaining in Christ too the full.Thats all you need, he is the way the truth and the life unblemished and you don’t have too worry about narcissistic religious men telling you what God says too them to only end up looking like a hypocrite. I always asked them why they got Jesus looking like a lumberjack man with a beard when the scripture says Jesus was basically opposite from Handsome . They had Jesus ever so handsome with a big beard and European hair, mind you this is called being a stumbling block too those who want too serve God even if mistakenly thought this was a place of true worship, telling a individual who God is drawing bear they can’t preach the word too other congregations because a beard they have in which wasn’t even half a inch long is terrible thing one can do . And that’s just one true story out of many I’ve experienced with this publication organization. “That’s all they are too me now” just a hypocritical over righteous institution… I hope and pray believers come too Christ because it’s him that’s leads the way too Jehovah … not group of men saying we are directed from God . God would never begin work of his with a false prophet too begin with why? That’s gives his children an excuse on not too trust him , God does and gives anything and everything too begin with-with his creation too trust him…therefore as the scripture says don’t put your trust in men but rather put your trust in the Lord…
I've been watching your videos , all makes sense now im in a cult, They always impose their thoughts but they don't let other people think for themselves. Im on my way out !!
There are more exjws every day. Many had to "go it alone" when they woke up. It must have been very difficult for them. Waking up was difficult for me four years ago, despite being able to research online and connect with others via zoom. Eric's videos and articles helped me a lot. I'd been "born in".
Soo u call.jw a cult but who n wat religion faith. U n others are with or following? Wat 1 faith is the cramped n narrow road with a few ppl on it and finding it?? It cant be all those other religions cause they cults
If imperfection is a valid excuse not to apologise, then by the same metric, imperfection also is a valid excuse not to repent in the name of Christ for our sins. Also, Tom Jones? It's not unusual for the Branch to send him to these situations I'd imagine.
I do not care who it offends...I believe that there is a wicked spirit that is inhabiting these men. A spirit that's been with them for so long, and is so subtle, they don't recognize it. This organization has occultic beginnings, and those origins are STILL present. What is the principle? If the root of a thing is poisoned, so are the branches? If Peter could be influenced by evil to tell Jesus Christ that he would not suffer and die, if a spirit could enter Judas and have him, also an apostle, betray the Christ, then why do we think it's far-fetched for these men to ALSO have demonic influence?
Let's not forget the Governing Body's claim: they are the "voice of God", the only people on earth that understand the Bible, and without the GB we'd never understand the Bible on our own. If you believe that, I have some beautiful oceanfront property in Kansas I'd like to sell you...
They do this because they will not be going home to God and Christ- so they do everything in their power to stop others going home too. Jesus spoke about these sorts and we are warned to not be deceived by them. Evil to the core men. They divide and destroy the sanctity of the family unit, the template set by God for our protection. The Bride of Christ in pure white linen, prepared by God for His Son, has been stripped and thrown to the Babylon world, for ridicule. Woe to the paid hirelings when the King returns from afar……. Their words are directed by Satan himself
Eric, ditto all the way! You said it all, and covered it so completely, that anything I'd say would be redundant...Other than, The JW Gov Bod is showing so much sacrificial love and concern for the congregation these days I can hardly stand it. 😝🤣 😉 Thanks & Support...
Once again, Eric, you expose the seriousness of the GB's actions and motives. Time mark 4:00. 2 Cor. 11:19,20. Oh, that our dear, loved ones who are still letting the GB shape their consciences read these scriptures and PONDER!
In commenting on this issue I have periodically grown a beard since I was fifteen. That first attempt at personal choice was met with a strong and public rebuke by a congregation servant who was the father of my then bestfriend, so I shaved. This was before the acknowledgment of the fact 'by the organization' that Jesus Christ had a beard in compliance with the Mosaic Law. Over the years since then when not constrained by serving as either a ministerial servant or elder I freely grew a beard with little interference, though from time to time one elder or another would make a comment or 'suggestion'. On my next birthday I will be seventy two. Needless to say I've experienced all the controversies spoken about in this video 📹 personally. What they are now up to is certainly a subject to contemplate, I look forward to that next video 📹.
@aiercoooled, hi brother, I was fascinated to hear the history of your experience. Thanks for sharing. I didn't know they said that Jesus had a beard in compliance with the ML.
Back in the 1930's, 40's and 50's men who wore beards were seen by city urban duellers as being uncivilized backward farmers, poorly groomed, this is not the appearance the GB men wanted their subjective door to door representatives to look like. Likewise men with hair over the ears which was quite common in the 60 's and 70's . Around this time the GB men were setting about how their devoted men followers, including elders and alike were to look like in the eyes of the public. There was a presenting righteous image these men were tying to create and promote , not only to men but to women as well. Now that they the GB men realize the number of participating people has deceased by 15 to 20 % in most modernized countries they are starting to loosen their rules and regulations for the members. 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
The Branch, Society, Mother or however they want to be addressed is good at one thing: Deceit. There’s an expression: when u point the finger at others, three fingers are pointing back at you. I’ve read countless articles as a born in of them highlighting and exploiting what The Catholic Church have done; yet, they themselves have or are currently doing, & in some cases at a grander level (CSA), the same as The Catholic Church. That WT presented in this video, highlighting the difference between Jesus & The Pharisees was literally about them! The arbitrary, trivial rules THEY set that “comes from God”, calling themselves Guardians of Doctrine or (G.O.D), putting themselves as substitutes for Christ (2 Cor. 5:20 NWT), & dictating to its members what is and what’s not appropriate on PERSONAL matters, all the while taking zero responsibility for the harm they cause b/c they say they r not inspired or infallible or worst yet, pretend like they never said x,y,z. The GB gets away w/ making vague statements, so that it’s not explicit, but it’s filled w/ implication. This is their loop hole for policy changes, & gaslighting the organization’s members into thinking they misread or misinterpreted things on their own accord. I used to feel sorry for my parents who are still apart of the org, but my mom, after telling me I was dead to her for showing secular, archeological, & biblical reasons why I disassociated told me something chilling: She doesn’t care what the organization says or does, it’s from Jehovah, and she knows it’s the right way. Hopefully something like this would wake them up, but these men have convinced a good portion that they truly speak for God, which is why some have echoed “what a loving provision by the GB.”
Eric, me imagino lo difícil que ha sido para ti, ir al paso del "carro de Jehová", apenas estás haciendo un video cuando un cambio de política te obliga a modificar tus borradores; agradecemos el esfuerzo que haces por tratar de exponer estos cambios lo más pronto posible, tantos cambios en tan poco tiempo son prueba de que la WT está cayendo más pronto de lo que esperábamos.
I remember a brother "putting me in my place" as my mother said it, because I had sideburns that were too long. They only went to about the bottom of my ear. Oh and the hair was "too long" on them as well. Sideburns man, just sideburns. I never understood that people in biblical times had full grown beards, even Jesus, but somehow they were unacceptable as a JW. 🤔
Interesting Jehovah allowed beards for 5900 years but outlawed them for 100 years…then…⚡️💡☀️”LET THERE BE BEARDS! because people grew them anyway and lots of other people have them now!” A rich doner wanted beards (maybe Venus husband) so they made it ok. End of policy. WT needs money…can’t discriminate against bearded money.🤑
The reason why JWs collectively or individually don't point out discrepancies or teachings that might be unscriptural but camouflaged as scriptural ( or as directed by the GB who say they are NOT inspired but you must treat our words AS IF THEY ARE inspired) is because the collective have accepted that the GB MUST be the channel that Jehovah/Yahweh is using because... well, the GB says so and therefore whatever they are saying, no matter how unusual it might sound or contradictory, they MUST be correct. But the GB will say ... "oh we are imperfect men so sometimes mistakes will be made" ....but has anyone EVER seen any admissions of mistakes ...ever? No, because they are not considered as "mistakes"-rather they are seen as " unclear truth" waiting for the brighter light to eventuate, which of course in the fullness of time often becomes false light and false teachings (as an example many of JW teachings pre 1940 are now firmly classed as "false" doctrine and anyone that dares to promote them is dealt with via the code of disfellowshipment) . As was the case with the 1975 fiasco, it took many years for the JWMinistry of Truth to even acknowledge that statements the WT made were misleading. The fact is that in the minds of the JW collective, they do not believe that the GB would make false pronouncements - deliberately or unintentionally- in any shape or form- such is the psychological power in the role of the GB. The GB can literally say ANYTHING and the collective will believe it without question sayings simply its just " the light getting brighter as per Proverbs 4:18 and its Jehovahs spirit behind it. This is classic George Orwell's "1984" live in action before your eyes. As to why these changes are happening now, the recent pandemic threw a massive spanner into the works of the JW and they will not officially show or expose the ( probable dramatic) downturn to the collective ( as reduced preaching hours and literature placed etc) as the elite leadership would know that psychological impact on the collective could be catastrophic for the survival of the organisation. No its better to say " we no longer know what preaching hours are being done" than to say " our statistics show that its decreasing at a fast rste"
Soooooo… apparently we’re going to disregard ALL things unscriptural? As it should be… Since they opened that door, what a better opportunity than to walk/run through it …
I think they’re realizing that all their micro-managing is not producing better Christians or even Christians period. They need to dump the teachings of Rutherford and admit that they were wrong about many things especially the idea of being substitutes of Christ. In fact if they really want to make headway they should get rid of the name Jehovah’s Witnesses start focusing on the name of Jesus who Jehovah put his name on. Great video Eric. Peace
Escaped the Tower 10 years ago, after being captive for 12 years. DF twice couldn't see myself going back after last. I had always asked the beard question to the elders and WT, since they bugged me about my Law Enforcement career, carry a weapon, blood guilt potential, blah blah blah(34 years of service and counting). Yup, those 1960's rebels' beards hang on their faces, like banners of societal disappointment. It grows naturally like the real truth, breeds confidence and positive demeanor. However, the Tower preached it must be cut, and cleaned up, like the hopes of All JW's and friends. The Tower participants and captives can't go around looking like Russelites now can we Judge Rutherford. Now, 2024 The Tower has "Allowed" the swag of the beard to walk its hallowed halls of Bethel once again, but the friends better not say Shit!! because we know what's right for our sheepeople. Perhaps The Tower in another decade or two, may stumble in the "Truth" and find the Bible does not direct, condone or direct its organization to practice Shunning of its members family etc. This is a mind control method used and practice in cult entities and never has it been scriptural or decent on any level, but maybe just maybe, I might get my family back. Mic Drop,
What kills me is Lett's comment that while they were enlighten by biblical scholars that Jesus did not shave but Lett was quick to state that Jesus wore a well groomed beard. Still they have to correct the Bible.
Good evening. The answer to the question "Why all these changes now" may have a link with the congress of religious leaders on September 14, 2022. They must lighten their beliefs to unite before 2030???
Wait for the follow up counsel on beards. Your beard is: too long, too scruffy, too unkempt etc... Yeah, you can just feel the ongoing love of WT and JW elders.🙄
Yes. They WILL micromanage every man with a beard. The same way they micromanage women. Haircuts: “too butch”. Makeup “too heavy/trampy”. Number of ear piercings. Too much jewelry is “gaudy”. Etc etc etc.
@@edeecampbell9278 Yup. They must be bleeding members and bro’s. reaching out for them to change. I guess they have to throw a JW bone to the rank and file from time to time.
Quel audace d’appliquer 1 corinthiens 1 : 10 sans tenir compte du contexte. Se rendent ils compte de la dangerosité de la pensée unique lorsqu'il s’agit de suivre des commandements d’hommes ? N’est ce pas la particularité des régimes dictatoriaux ? Oui, il n’y a pas de vagues dans ces pays, tout le monde va dans le même sens, ils sont “unis sous un seul chef”. Le Collège Central voudrait il vivre dans un de ces pays où ils n’auraient pas le droit de dire leur désaccord ? Obéir aux hommes = dictature
You d"ont practice "unity" when others "go along to get along" when "unity is in defiance of the command by Christ NOT to teach the "commands of men" or "human traditions." That is what the legal, corporate term "policy" is. Watchhtower policy is a set of corporate rules that seek to treat people fairly and impartially and also to avoid liability. Those who "followed the crowd to pervert justice," caused each other to be held captive to and enslaved to "a snare and a racket." Others formed a relastionship with the mind and heart behind scripture instead. They hated me and shunned me 40 years over stupidities beards, mustachhe, pant dress, pant suits, stripped clothing and for me personally the tie. They should have united over whhat thhe scriptures say instead. It says to the liberal and conservative to the hebrew and the greek, "Rather be RECEIVING one another." "Rather be accepting one another". That was Paul"s conclusion. They still don"t know this. Instead their explanation is, "The governing body has decided... Both 1st and second Corinthians expresses both the point of view of "those who abstain" and "those who give thanks for the freedom that they have in Christ." Forged Iron and mixed clay CAN coexist peacefully. American citizens might get along better if they heeded chapers 5 to 10 of both letters.
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A clear case of "going beyond the things written".
If the rule against beards is unscriptural, then it has always been unscriptural. The GB should apologize for making and enforcing an unscriptural rule for over 100 years. I was even told that I could not help at the literature counter because my sideburns were to long. But of course we know that they won't apologize.
Narcissists dont apologise
While the GB claim they are neither inspired nor infallible, their refusal to ever apologize for _anything_ betrays that claim as a big pile of bovine residue:
_"Refusing to admit our mistakes is _*_like claiming infallibility’_*_ ...No one can maintain the respect of others if he insists that he is right even when confronted with an obvious mistake. _*_How can anyone have confidence_*_ in a person who he knows from experience will even _*_sacrifice the truth just to give the appearance that he is right?"_* Watchtower 1988 12/1 p. 22
If something isn't true anymore, was it ever true?
Referring to the rhetorical question posed at about 1:30, or so, in this podcast-why would an “intelligent person”.
That’s the point, NO intelligent person would think/speak that way! As to why ANYONE would do so…well there are many mentality challenged people, and many reasons for that state of mind 😆…
I’m half expecting an announcement from the gb that now, thanks to new light, women jws are now allowed to wear beards, even moustaches 😂…
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Beards should have NEVER been an issue to begin with.
They judge their flock by their outward appearance. No homeless person would be welcome there. They have nothing to contribute to the organisation. Jesus was a servant of the homeless and lost souls.
The GB misuses the word “United” instead they demand Uniformity. Big difference.
It's even worse than uniformity. As WT attorney Hayden Covington admitted in court (the 1954 Douglas Walsh Trial) regarding WT's demand that all JWs accept WT false prophecies and doctrines,
Prosecuting attorney, Q. _"A unity based on an _*_enforced acceptance_*_ of false prophecy?"_
Hayden Covington, A. _"That is conceded to be true."_
In other words, JWs are FORCED to accept WT doctrines, even when those doctrines are absolutely wrong.
Better to be "United" with Christ than it is to be "United" with a pack of wolves.
More like Conformity,than Unity.
Yes uniformity by subtle coerciveness.
Hello. Are you from Hawaii.
How creepy and cultush is it when Lett says "the brotherhood" ?
Oh, wait everything he says is Creepy.
Being imperfect was never used by me as an excuse for my behavior.
Right me neither
Too late! This is the reason why I started asking questions about their authority. So glad I found out the Truth!!
Soon they’ll adjust ‘our’ understanding of the disfellowship arrangement
Did anyone else catch the contradiction with him saying (in other words) that people should have waited for them to give direction, while he also said that the whole reason they made the statement with new direction was because JWs were questioning it?
These guys are trippin. 🤦♀️🤦♀️
The GB demand that JWs all be *united in error* until the GB gets around to finally figuring out what many of the rank-and-file already figured out years or decades earlier.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 Pretty much. I have a JW parent that keeps bringing up the unity thing and I made this exact point and asked them if we should be united in error.
It's hard for those that are indoctrinated to even comprehend that it is in error, though. They are blinded by the new light.
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GB member Geoffrey Jackson stated under oath at the ARC hearings that, if the GB teaches something that is in error and not found in the Bible, "all" of Jehovah's Witnesses will immediately correct them.
Of course, this is a lie. How are JWs supposed to correct the GB if JWs are ordered to simply get in line, shut up, and wait on the GB to change the doctrine, no matter how long it takes?
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You have stated on this channel that you accept polygamy for Christians. In that belief you do not follow Jesus' teachings for Christians.
@@vintage6346 Hi, you have asked me similar questions on multiple threads, so I have posted my response on the original thread you're citing.
For anyone who wants to find it, the title of the video is:
Historian Jim Penton discusses Jehovah's Witnesses during the Nathan Knorr/Fred Franz presidencies
This was posted Mar 13, 2020 by Beroean Pickets.
Thank you Eric. For all you do. You are never the first to analyze news on jduborg but when you do it is always precise, thorough and explicit.
I have a co-worker who is a MS, when he saw me with a beard, he called me over and asked “are you still my Brother?” This announcement is absolutely comical to me as this interaction was only a few months ago. Imagine the determining factor of being a Christ follower is weather or not you have a clean shaven face.. Sad.
If he was wearing skinny pants you could have asked, "Are you still my brother...or my sister?"
The elders at the Liverpool, Nova Scotia kingdom Hall advised a long time ago that beards were forbidden because beards weren't popular during the 1970's and when on the door to door service a beard would detract the householder from the presentation. A man during this time who was attending the meetings as an interested person left and never came back because he refused to shave his beard.
Just off topic, met a CO just a while ago, and the dude couldn't even say a greeting. He acted as if I was total stranger and yet I hosted him three times with my family before my divorce. Damn I need that food back.
I need mine back as well😂😂
You do sooo much to teach Truth and expose the imposters! Jah bless you for all the hard work!!
True fact. Rutherford and Knorr hated beards so much they even had Jesus clean shaven for a number of years in the publications. The real reason Rutherford changed his view on having facial hair was because of Russell. Rutherford had to purge the Society of most things related to Russell, especially considering that everyone still looked to Russell as the faithful slave. When Rutherford published that the faithful slave was a class of people (the 144,000) in the August Watchtower of 1927, he systematically expunged Russell, his writings, the cross and Christmas. Also, Rutherford had a more CORPORATE-MINDSET, than a spiritual one. The majority of the mandates/rules/regulations of the watchtower is based on his ideology (mainly personal and not scripturally based).
Never was an issue in the uk when i was growing up. Many " brothers" had beards inc elders and Ms .
The governing body causes divisions then condemns everyone else by gaslighting them to stop causing divisions, which they never caused from the at all, but the governing body causes by constantly changing the goal posts and calls all who don't go along with the changes apostated or divisive. Psychological violence is not in the criminal code or the provincial code or the regional acts so it's jyst fine for the watchtower to drive everyone in their society crazey.
"gaslighting?" Like when they said "we never said the GT was coming in 1975. You just got too excited." It works every time they do it! Paul's words apply: "You put up with whoever enslaves you, devours your possessions, grabs what you have.2 cor 11:19,20
I can’t believe they don’t see they’ve become like the dark age Catholic Church, that they preach against.
growing up I never understood the policy on beards when the illustrations in the watchtower and awake depicted Jesus, the angels and men of old with beards?
These Freemasons continue to re-brand.
They not free masons at all
Used to be called Zionist watchtower- what does that imply?
Freedom is when one hears the bell at seven o'clock in the morning and knows it is the milkman and not the Gestapo.
Georges Bidault
It is just another sign that this cult is imploding. It will end soon enough!
The sooner the better
I am in constant amazement at Holy God’s daily destruction of all that is not of Him, in preparation for the soon return of Son, our King.
Thank you Almighty Father for exposing these vagabonds to the Bride of Christ.
The catholic organisation is undergoing the same shaking. Unfortunately, those sheep are clinging onto the man made rituals by their fingernails, ignoring that the shepherds are leading them over barbed wire, rocks and plunging them into valleys. Not by still waters and good grazing fields and thus obtaining rest.
Woe to the paid hirelings. When the King returns from afar………
So be of good cheer brethren. The truth has been released and His word shall not return void.
Some people feel comfortable being $lave$.
Thanks Eric for your succinct analysis of the "new light" on beards. I really enjoyed the experience of the Christie congregation - such a good example of what happens when someone questions anything that the organization promotes - there will be consequences!!. Thanks for telling us about Jerome's channel - will check it out! "Be patient, wait on Jehovah, leave it in Jehovah's hands" - disgusting advice - that is also what they tell victims of child sexual abuse! 😠
Wauw , praise God ! The governing body has discovered that beards are allowed and that the Bible doesn’t condemn wearing a beard ! Praise God for this marvelous light finally shining into this dark world ! While the Christians world is still in darkness whether wearing a beard is scriptural or not , Jws are so blessed being guided by these spiritual snipers !
Man I better got back with Jehovahs organization, I am missing some life saving directions.
Do we know how many brothers were looked down on because they were allergic to razors and could not clean shave?
As adolescents we were told to get rid of those beards otherwise we would not be assigned talks..... If we indicated to comment with a little beard ... we could feel the coldness towards us if we were called on at all.....
Can we imagine being discriminated and shunned because of the way Jehovah made us??? By his own organization???
I can hardly believe that I was really alive for almost 50 years in .....and it never dawn on me that this was strange.....
After covid hit I got the message that it was time to leave. ❤thankfully I faded 4 years ago in March 8th
When has the governing body been loving? They show love by allowing people to have freedom of expression?
Another excellent video Eric. Thanks for fleshing out the topic with the additional information and experiences.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Eric, excellent job on this video. I have dealt with this for many years. I am especially disturbed by the lack of an apology for the damage this policy has caused. I became inactive a few years ago and decided to try to reactivate myself after nearly a year of not going out in the ministry. During this time I grew a well trimmed beard. When I showed up one Saturday morning ready to go in the ministry, instead of experiencing the love and excitement that the congregation should show for a “ lost sheep “ who was trying to return, I had people telling the elders not to assign them to be in the same service group as me or my family. When I found out about it and asked the elders, they stood by the people who were offended by me and acted like I was the problem. Modern day Pharisees. Thank you so much for your videos and the great work that you are doing.
Isn't it amazing that they don't see the hypocrisy of their actions?
Saying men can't wear beards because some men that did were associated with rebellion is like saying sisters can't wear dresses because of cross-dressers or 'trans' people.
Good one😂❤
@@antoinettevorhees2997 Thanks 😅
Whewwww I gotta using this! You are so accurate!! And most people have sex outside of marriage and it's the norm.
Ironically after the governing body allowed beards I shaved mine 😂
@@JoelPierce-q4x My husband did the same thing!! 😅😅
What about them pushing and even mandating the 'treatment' the last 3 years? Would not the same Bible principles apply?
That mandate came from the same GB that tells rank and file JWs to mind their own business about health recommendations and to not promote personal views about medical decisions. But, that didn't stop the GB from doing it anyway. Hypocrites.
My wife to be, from the Philippines, was a member of the INC which is a very jw like church group in the Philippines. She was kicked out after leaving her very abusive husband and is now a member of the C of E here in the UK and is going to be christened next year when we get her citizenship sorted out. She cannot believe the freedom my church gives her, nobody tells her how to dress or how to wear her hair, she's not forced to give her money and isn't forced to believe anything she doesn't want to. My local vicar will discuss theology for a week given the chance🥰 and won't make her leave the church if she disagrees on a certain point like the INC would.
Enjoyed your well rounded reasoning on the matter. Thank you.
Part of this GB change is in part of a membership retention/recruitment problem they own. Male help is in short supply as youth are not involved as years ago. Growth is flat. They need help to make the congregational processes to simply work. Just an opinion.
That sounds right to me. I'd known one brother who tangled with Watchtower during the war (1967). He was finally made a ministerial servant recently at 70 years old. The Society seems to really need male help.
Matthew 23:24 comes to mind…”Blind guides who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!”
It'd be good to show the correspondence from the Society showing that they don't accept any questions raised.
During Steve Lett's talk, he mentioned the concept of "Promoting Unit". However, it raises the question of whether it matters when you promote teachings that are not in the Bible. If you are promoting doctrines of men that is unscriptual. The brothers have a right to call you out for promoting unscriptural teachings. It is important to note that the Bible does not advocate for unity for the sake of unity alone.
Unity means bringing things together. Unified means making a single unit. Lett may have misunderstood the meaning while directing JWs as to how to think & feel about this, or any, subject 🥴😵💫
@@TallKulWmn1, Yep. I would have to agree Lett believes that we should be unity with a group of men who are neither inspired or nor infallible instead of the Most High and his Son.
Thank you so much Eric
The gratitude felt by the rank and file for the privilege of wearing a beard reminds me of Stockholm Syndrome where the captives are so controlled and abused that when their captor/ abuser allows them a small token of humanity like getting out of the cage or eating at the table, the captive is so grateful for the privilege it causes a psychological bond to the abuser. Note: if you feel overwhelmingly grateful for something that should have been a basic human right in the first place, you may be in an abusive relationship/ religion.
Encore une fois Éric, merci pour vos analyses pertinentes et bienveillantes qui aident à panser ses plaies psychologiques après avoir quitté ce tentaculaire mouvement religieux qu'est la WT.
Merci beaucoup !
Il n'y a pas de quoi. C'est un plaisir pour moi.
Thank You Google Translate! "Once again Eric, thank you for your pertinent and benevolent analyses that help to heal his psychological wounds after leaving this sprawling religious movement that is the WT. Thank you very much!" (I only understand "Merci beaucoup" and "Parlez-vous français")
@@mamajan99 french is my mother tongue. It's easier for me to write in french than in english. I will make too many wistakes. Have a good day !
They used to tell black sisters not to where they own natural hair because around the time of the of the black panther movement many black women started present themselves as they naturally are as far as hair even though it wasn't acceptable to wyt people. So a fro was considered a no no lol their racist past is still very much so the current reality. They only depict white men with BEARDs in heaven lol
As an elder (with a mustache) I was told that white men could not have facial hair!!! I left that congregation about 40 years ago (but not over the mustache). It was controlled by an Alpha Elder (former CO) and his deputy Alpha elder, his son-in-law and former Bethelite. I wrote the WT society about many improprieties taking place. "Headquarters" did not respond to me but forwarded my letter to this Big Shot who told us that he just threw my letter into the trash and none of that other elders would ever see it or any other letters I might write. By then, I saw the Wolves that Jesus warned us about and I was done with them. But my wife (and assistant) called the HQ in New York but she was promptly hung up on! Then she called our CO who refused to talk to her. Recently we were relieved to hear that after we left that congregation, all of those "Elders" were removed (along with some good but passive (fearful?) elders, and the entire congregation was "disbanded." Sadly, the problems were much wider than I could have imagined, eventually involving lies, slander, cover-ups, adultery, molestation, incest and suicides. But at least those "Elders" were UNITED when they were removed. Unity is not good when you are united in evil in a pack of wolves.
You nailed it Alpha male decides everything that happens in the congregation who is appointed to serving position's who has the so called privileges for do other assignments.
The sad part is they always say the elders are different ages and from diverse walks of life.
Which is laughable because they are irrelevant because long term Alpha male makes all major decisions and the less experienced newly appointed are scared of losing their privileges so they meekly go along.
Then we have other elders who have been serving but won't tell Alpha male he's not being very humble which as we know is wrong if I see or feel someone isn't doing the right thing we should speak up .
The same with disfellowshiping the decision was already made before the meeting.
Thankfully I saw through this nonsense but wasted so much time.
But they did get the religion a snare and a racket right.
And I just faded got fed up with the hypocrisy and when I started reading the NKJV Bible it contains the true message of Christ and hasn't any agenda just the true Truth
A mustache is also known as a "beard fraction"!
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Child molesters love it when you "wait on Jehovah!" You give them a free pass by following an unscriptural "Governing Body." Jesus is my only leader. Jesus didn't wait. He did what he could do at that time. He healed the sick and resurrected the dead. And he denounced the blind guides saying, "You are from your Father, the Devil." Don't be an apologist for Wolves in sheep's clothing or you will receive their fate when "Jehovah handles it" thru Christ Jesus our Lord. @@joseph_miller
@@whats_the_truthmaybe a beard is just a body hair fraction?
Merci,vraiment excellent comme toujours.
Thank you 🙏🏻
You're welcome.
Thank you Eric.
Most welcome.
We can only build on Truth,Building on lies.eventualy crumbles and falls..
I attended the International Convention in Montreal during the summer of 1978. We saw men with full but well groomed beards. We were told they were elders and beards were accepted in that area. I guess not. This organization spends too much time on mundane issues so they don't have to address the really serious issues!
It is called distraction! Our JW PIMO friends don't even know about the child molestations and multi-million dollar court decisions or the sales of Kingdom Halls to pay the courts, Or the evidence shredding to destroy evidence. Blind guides leading the willfully blind into a pit
PRECISELY !!! 🤨
I was there as well, though in the Spanish sessions.
Rutherford created that rule and it was because he hated Taz Russell and Taz Russell had a beard so Rutherford didn’t want anybody around him to remind him of TA Russell.
That is absolutely true.
What a mess! This rule on beards should have never existed in the first place. Jehovah God created man to have facial hair. It was not a chia seed that you put on your face, and it grew a beard. It was all natural. Created by God. Watchtower's man made rules cause more divisions than it solves. Thanks for bringing this out in your presentation.
😂"chia seed". Thanks. I needed that laugh.
@@mikewayne6608 you're welcome
Thank you Eric. Eric, 4.8.2024…
Very welcome
How many wives would allow their husband, to tell them there is no reason for me to apologize to you, I am imperfect and make mistakes? Go ask 10 thousand wives that Question and see if there is any consensus on that. It is remarkable that the GB even said that.
I’m in that exact position. The PIMI narcissist I’m married to informed me, “he would apologize if he’d done anything wrong”.
50 years of marriage& never has he seen a need for an apology. He’s a JW 😢
Good example!
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I have heard the word “duped” several times now from different people. My own father (elder for 60 years) used this word twice when he was very ill and on his death bed. It makes me wonder what he was struggling with before he died.
finally, I was waiting for your reaction.
I was told I couldn’t be an elder and go congregation too congregation too give talks because I had a super low beard.now my beard is medium and I’m already remaining in Christ too the full.Thats all you need, he is the way the truth and the life unblemished and you don’t have too worry about narcissistic religious men telling you what God says too them to only end up looking like a hypocrite. I always asked them why they got Jesus looking like a lumberjack man with a beard when the scripture says Jesus was basically opposite from
Handsome . They had Jesus ever so handsome with a big beard and European hair, mind you this is called being a stumbling block too those who want too serve God even if mistakenly thought this was a place of true worship, telling a individual who God is drawing bear they can’t preach the word too other congregations because a beard they have in which wasn’t even half a inch long is terrible thing one can do . And that’s just one true story out of many I’ve experienced with this publication organization. “That’s all they are too me now” just a hypocritical over righteous institution… I hope and pray believers come too Christ because it’s him that’s leads the way too Jehovah … not group of men saying we are directed from God . God would never begin work of his with a false prophet too begin with why? That’s gives his children an excuse on not too trust him , God does and gives anything and everything too begin with-with his creation too trust him…therefore as the scripture says don’t put your trust in men but rather put your trust in the Lord…
Looking forward to your next video for sure Eric.
I've been watching your videos , all makes sense now im in a cult, They always impose their thoughts but they don't let other people think for themselves. Im on my way out !!
There are more exjws every day. Many had to "go it alone" when they woke up. It must have been very difficult for them. Waking up was difficult for me four years ago, despite being able to research online and connect with others via zoom. Eric's videos and articles helped me a lot. I'd been "born in".
Soo u call.jw a cult but who n wat religion faith. U n others are with or following? Wat 1 faith is the cramped n narrow road with a few ppl on it and finding it?? It cant be all those other religions cause they cults
Wow! You are right on the money! Thank you.
If imperfection is a valid excuse not to apologise, then by the same metric, imperfection also is a valid excuse not to repent in the name of Christ for our sins.
Also, Tom Jones? It's not unusual for the Branch to send him to these situations I'd imagine.
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Another great video 👍👍👍
Merci infiniment Eric
We wrestle not with flesh and blood but spirits and principalities and wickedness in our places
I do not care who it offends...I believe that there is a wicked spirit that is inhabiting these men. A spirit that's been with them for so long, and is so subtle, they don't recognize it. This organization has occultic beginnings, and those origins are STILL present. What is the principle? If the root of a thing is poisoned, so are the branches? If Peter could be influenced by evil to tell Jesus Christ that he would not suffer and die, if a spirit could enter Judas and have him, also an apostle, betray the Christ, then why do we think it's far-fetched for these men to ALSO have demonic influence?
Let's not forget the Governing Body's claim: they are the "voice of God", the only people on earth that understand the Bible, and without the GB we'd never understand the Bible on our own.
If you believe that, I have some beautiful oceanfront property in Kansas I'd like to sell you...
They do this because they will not be going home to God and Christ- so they do everything in their power to stop others going home too. Jesus spoke about these sorts and we are warned to not be deceived by them. Evil to the core men.
They divide and destroy the sanctity of the family unit, the template set by God for our protection.
The Bride of Christ in pure white linen, prepared by God for His Son, has been stripped and thrown to the Babylon world, for ridicule.
Woe to the paid hirelings when the King returns from afar…….
Their words are directed by Satan himself
As addition- scriptural reference-Matthew 23: 13-15😊
Eric, ditto all the way! You said it all, and covered it so completely, that anything I'd say would be redundant...Other than, The JW Gov Bod is showing so much sacrificial love and concern for the congregation these days I can hardly stand it. 😝🤣 😉
Thanks & Support...
@northernexposure8622 - ha ha, you have such a good sense of humor brother.
@@wendywiens4209 🤗
Once again, Eric, you expose the seriousness of the GB's actions and motives. Time mark 4:00. 2 Cor. 11:19,20. Oh, that our dear, loved ones who are still letting the GB shape their consciences read these scriptures and PONDER!
We can lead them to water, but it's up to them to drink.
If you’re really good, they might give you an ice cream cone
Nah...all the ice cream money goes in the contribution box.
That's true.@@alishaba-
@alishaba- 😂❤
Thanks Brother Wilson. Looking forward to the next video!
Coming soon! Thank you.
The arrogance of the GB is astonishing. What hubris 🙄
@seangarvey3875 -- What bothers most is that they will never acknowledge any wrongdoing whatsoever.
Excellent
Thanks.
Great video!
It's amazing how serious these fanatics are about facial hair...
In commenting on this issue I have periodically grown a beard since I was fifteen. That first attempt at personal choice was met with a strong and public rebuke by a congregation servant who was the father of my then bestfriend, so I shaved. This was before the acknowledgment of the fact 'by the organization' that Jesus Christ had a beard in compliance with the Mosaic Law. Over the years since then when not constrained by serving as either a ministerial servant or elder I freely grew a beard with little interference, though from time to time one elder or another would make a comment or 'suggestion'. On my next birthday I will be seventy two.
Needless to say I've experienced all the controversies spoken about in this video 📹 personally. What they are now up to is certainly a subject to contemplate, I look forward to that next video 📹.
73 for me today! I was born Post-Santa! LOL
@aiercoooled, hi brother, I was fascinated to hear the history of your experience. Thanks for sharing. I didn't know they said that Jesus had a beard in compliance with the ML.
@@wendywiens4209 I have many stories to tell...
You nailed it again!😂
Back in the 1930's, 40's and 50's men who wore beards were seen by city urban duellers as being uncivilized backward farmers, poorly groomed, this is not the appearance the GB men wanted their subjective door to door representatives to look like. Likewise men with hair over the ears which was quite common in the 60 's and 70's . Around this time the GB men were setting about how their devoted men followers, including elders and alike were to look like in the eyes of the public.
There was a presenting righteous image these men were tying to create and promote , not only to men but to women as well.
Now that they the GB men realize the number of participating people has deceased by 15 to 20 % in most modernized countries they are starting to loosen their rules and regulations for the members.
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They have worked hard to make white the outward appearance of the 'cup'.
There where Gods Spirit is , there is freedom 2 kor. 3:17
Spot on.
I remember the rule on beards.
Charles Taze Russell had a nice beard. But Judge Rutherford was the one who wanted beards eliminated.
The Branch, Society, Mother or however they want to be addressed is good at one thing: Deceit.
There’s an expression: when u point the finger at others, three fingers are pointing back at you.
I’ve read countless articles as a born in of them highlighting and exploiting what The Catholic Church have done; yet, they themselves have or are currently doing, & in some cases at a grander level (CSA), the same as The Catholic Church.
That WT presented in this video, highlighting the difference between Jesus & The Pharisees was literally about them! The arbitrary, trivial rules THEY set that “comes from God”, calling themselves Guardians of Doctrine or (G.O.D), putting themselves as substitutes for Christ (2 Cor. 5:20 NWT), & dictating to its members what is and what’s not appropriate on PERSONAL matters, all the while taking zero responsibility for the harm they cause b/c they say they r not inspired or infallible or worst yet, pretend like they never said x,y,z.
The GB gets away w/ making vague statements, so that it’s not explicit, but it’s filled w/ implication. This is their loop hole for policy changes, & gaslighting the organization’s members into thinking they misread or misinterpreted things on their own accord.
I used to feel sorry for my parents who are still apart of the org, but my mom, after telling me I was dead to her for showing secular, archeological, & biblical reasons why I disassociated told me something chilling: She doesn’t care what the organization says or does, it’s from Jehovah, and she knows it’s the right way.
Hopefully something like this would wake them up, but these men have convinced a good portion that they truly speak for God, which is why some have echoed “what a loving provision by the GB.”
Eric, me imagino lo difícil que ha sido para ti, ir al paso del "carro de Jehová", apenas estás haciendo un video cuando un cambio de política te obliga a modificar tus borradores; agradecemos el esfuerzo que haces por tratar de exponer estos cambios lo más pronto posible, tantos cambios en tan poco tiempo son prueba de que la WT está cayendo más pronto de lo que esperábamos.
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I remember a brother "putting me in my place" as my mother said it, because I had sideburns that were too long. They only went to about the bottom of my ear. Oh and the hair was "too long" on them as well. Sideburns man, just sideburns. I never understood that people in biblical times had full grown beards, even Jesus, but somehow they were unacceptable as a JW. 🤔
Millions now living will never shave😂😂
Ha ha ha, good one.
Interesting Jehovah allowed beards for 5900 years but outlawed them for 100 years…then…⚡️💡☀️”LET THERE BE BEARDS! because people grew them anyway and lots of other people have them now!”
A rich doner wanted beards (maybe Venus husband) so they made it ok. End of policy. WT needs money…can’t discriminate against bearded money.🤑
14:35 O.K. Lett: Agree, unite, and not divide. Beards for all then.....including the sisters.
Yes, for us sisters too. If the menfolk get to have scratchy faces, let us ladies be hairy too.
@@saburgess2336 This May leave the GB and elders scratching their collective heads, I think.🤔
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The problem is the 1% percent will always govern the 99% - Karl Marx
Even humanists realise this principle.
JW's are not alone.
The reason why JWs collectively or individually don't point out discrepancies or teachings that might be unscriptural but camouflaged as scriptural ( or as directed by the GB who say they are NOT inspired but you must treat our words AS IF THEY ARE inspired) is because the collective have accepted that the GB MUST be the channel that Jehovah/Yahweh is using because... well, the GB says so and therefore whatever they are saying, no matter how unusual it might sound or contradictory, they MUST be correct. But the GB will say ... "oh we are imperfect men so sometimes mistakes will be made" ....but has anyone EVER seen any admissions of mistakes ...ever? No, because they are not considered as "mistakes"-rather they are seen as " unclear truth" waiting for the brighter light to eventuate, which of course in the fullness of time often becomes false light and false teachings (as an example many of JW teachings pre 1940 are now firmly classed as "false" doctrine and anyone that dares to promote them is dealt with via the code of disfellowshipment) . As was the case with the 1975 fiasco, it took many years for the JWMinistry of Truth to even acknowledge that statements the WT made were misleading. The fact is that in the minds of the JW collective, they do not believe that the GB would make false pronouncements - deliberately or unintentionally- in any shape or form- such is the psychological power in the role of the GB. The GB can literally say ANYTHING and the collective will believe it without question sayings simply its just " the light getting brighter as per Proverbs 4:18 and its Jehovahs spirit behind it. This is classic George Orwell's "1984" live in action before your eyes. As to why these changes are happening now, the recent pandemic threw a massive spanner into the works of the JW and they will not officially show or expose the ( probable dramatic) downturn to the collective ( as reduced preaching hours and literature placed etc) as the elite leadership would know that psychological impact on the collective could be catastrophic for the survival of the organisation. No its better to say " we no longer know what preaching hours are being done" than to say " our statistics show that its decreasing at a fast rste"
Soooooo… apparently we’re going to disregard ALL things unscriptural?
As it should be…
Since they opened that door, what a better opportunity than to walk/run through it …
Hopefully the compulsory door to door ministry should stop .
Wow
I think they’re realizing that all their micro-managing is not producing better Christians or even Christians period. They need to dump the teachings of Rutherford and admit that they were wrong about many things especially the idea of being substitutes of Christ. In fact if they really want to make headway they should get rid of the name Jehovah’s Witnesses start focusing on the name of Jesus who Jehovah put his name on. Great video Eric. Peace
Next, they will start observing the Shabbat
you know...what they REALLY want...
is that tithe
Because they lost all their federal funding@@hybridous
They should relabel the organisation- “Tithe and not soul seekers”
Actually Keep The TEN COMMANDMENtS???? Will NEVER happen…. Matthew 19:17
@@PraiseYaHuWaH The same as the Roman Empire church organisation.
May He bless you and keep you.
Escaped the Tower 10 years ago, after being captive for 12 years. DF twice couldn't see myself going back after last. I had always asked the beard question to the elders and WT, since they bugged me about my Law Enforcement career, carry a weapon, blood guilt potential, blah blah blah(34 years of service and counting). Yup, those 1960's rebels' beards hang on their faces, like banners of societal disappointment. It grows naturally like the real truth, breeds confidence and positive demeanor. However, the Tower preached it must be cut, and cleaned up, like the hopes of All JW's and friends. The Tower participants and captives can't go around looking like Russelites now can we Judge Rutherford. Now, 2024 The Tower has "Allowed" the swag of the beard to walk its hallowed halls of Bethel once again, but the friends better not say Shit!! because we know what's right for our sheepeople. Perhaps The Tower in another decade or two, may stumble in the "Truth" and find the Bible does not direct, condone or direct its organization to practice Shunning of its members family etc. This is a mind control method used and practice in cult entities and never has it been scriptural or decent on any level, but maybe just maybe, I might get my family back.
Mic Drop,
Talk about indoctrination
What kills me is Lett's comment that while they were enlighten by biblical scholars that Jesus did not shave but Lett was quick to state that Jesus wore a well groomed beard. Still they have to correct the Bible.
Can't stand Lett, he looks possessed 😒
Good evening. The answer to the question "Why all these changes now" may have a link with the congress of religious leaders on September 14, 2022. They must lighten their beliefs to unite before 2030???
Very interesting. Especially in the light of the other agendas governments are working to for 2030.
Wait for the follow up counsel on beards. Your beard is: too long, too scruffy, too unkempt etc... Yeah, you can just feel the ongoing love of WT and JW elders.🙄
Anything to distract from the growing cracks in the foundation of the WickedTower 🙄
@@TallKulWmn1 Yes....growing cracks and growing numbers exiting.
Yes. They WILL micromanage every man with a beard. The same way they micromanage women. Haircuts: “too butch”. Makeup “too heavy/trampy”. Number of ear piercings. Too much jewelry is “gaudy”. Etc etc etc.
@@edeecampbell9278 Yup. They must be bleeding members and bro’s. reaching out for them to change. I guess they have to throw a JW bone to the rank and file from time to time.
Quel audace d’appliquer 1 corinthiens 1 : 10 sans tenir compte du contexte.
Se rendent ils compte de la dangerosité de la pensée unique lorsqu'il s’agit de suivre des commandements d’hommes ?
N’est ce pas la particularité des régimes dictatoriaux ? Oui, il n’y a pas de vagues dans ces pays, tout le monde va dans le même sens, ils sont “unis sous un seul chef”.
Le Collège Central voudrait il vivre dans un de ces pays où ils n’auraient pas le droit de dire leur désaccord ?
Obéir aux hommes = dictature
I thought perhaps they got to change it cuz had something to do at Spain court of human rights? I realized most men there have beards。
In part, yes, I believe.
You d"ont practice "unity" when others "go along to get along" when "unity is in defiance of the command by Christ NOT to teach the "commands of men" or "human traditions." That is what the legal, corporate term "policy" is. Watchhtower policy is a set of corporate rules that seek to treat people fairly and impartially and also to avoid liability. Those who "followed the crowd to pervert justice," caused each other to be held captive to and enslaved to "a snare and a racket." Others formed a relastionship with the mind and heart behind scripture instead. They hated me and shunned me 40 years over stupidities beards, mustachhe, pant dress, pant suits, stripped clothing and for me personally the tie. They should have united over whhat thhe scriptures say instead. It says to the liberal and conservative to the hebrew and the greek, "Rather be RECEIVING one another." "Rather be accepting one another". That was Paul"s conclusion. They still don"t know this. Instead their explanation is, "The governing body has decided... Both 1st and second Corinthians expresses both the point of view of "those who abstain" and "those who give thanks for the freedom that they have in Christ." Forged Iron and mixed clay CAN coexist peacefully. American citizens might get along better if they heeded chapers 5 to 10 of both letters.
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Hi...can you please share your view about speaking in tongues
Hi. You'll need to be a little more specific. 🙂
How is a beard rebellious, it is soft and looks so friendly upon man.
Indoctrination
Jesus Christ has beard the GB don't have....the wolves is directly opposite to sheeps doing...