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"HE'S THE BEST IN THE WORLD" 🐐 | Tour de France Stage 15 Reaction | Eurosport Cycling
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You never know what can still happen, but that kind of performance will remain in history. I started to watch cycling in the late '90 and Ive never seen something like this..and not just today. in 4 years as pro he won 2Tdf, 1Giro, 1 Flandre, 2 Liegi, 3 Lombardia... 13 stages in the tour, and so on.. chapeou Tadej
Agreed! I started following not long after you and too haven’t seen anyone like him. He is by far the most phenomenal bike rider I’ve witnessed.
If you have watched since the 90s then you cannot ignore the elephant in the room. He was pushing watts/kg 10% higher then Lance and Pantini. THe other riders just snicker and make jokes.
@@johngillis7625was there an elephant or dinosaur in room when vingegard won last year and year before no? Lets not spoil these wonderful moments
Jonas is the man if you know the game 🤟
@@atanubaruah1130 Was there an elephant when Froome was winning, when Thomas, Bernal, and Wiggins won it? Is there an elephant every time anyone wins for that matter. If someone wins let's say Paris Nice are they taming elephants? I am tired of elephants, just because the circus had elephants before doesn't mean they are still in the circus. Until I see an elephant they do not exist.
Okay, Pogi proved to be that in 2024 . . . He is the best! Chapeau Tadej!
because he beat a guy who was 12 days in intensive care with a pneumothorax and multiple broken bones?!? woooowwww!!!!!
Petra Majdic won an olympic medal with broken ribs and pneumothorax, so just take this L and move on with it.@@florianschneebeli6047
@@florianschneebeli6047 and that guy said he is in best form in his life
@@florianschneebeli6047cry harder😅
Visma gave it a shot, best case scenario Pogacar cracks, worst case scenario they pretty much secure 2nd.
Two great champions. And another coming up. Should be great racing for the next five years.
It was still the correct move for Jonas to get away from Remco. JV had nothing to lose and everything to gain at that point.
Pog beating Jonas on Jonas territory. Tour is over if Pog doesn’t crash or get sick.
of course und if not it would be embarrassing for pogacar!!!! the beat a guy that came out of hospital 13 weeks ago after beeing in intensive care for 12 days….wow….what a win🤓
muy tranquilo
@@florianschneebeli6047Jonas said that was best performance he has ever done……and still got destroyed
@@simoncbr900rr so just imagine for a second how strong he would have been without the crash……
@@florianschneebeli6047 still not strong enough
Why everyone is not happy when TP wins?? Why they always root for JV even when TP won the stage. Both are extremely good riders, but it seems the fans are leaning towards 1 side. I can imagine if TP secure his 3rd TdF, surely the talks of "awww JV just had bad crash, punctured his lungs, TP battled against sub-prime JV". Come on, wake up?! JV chose to ride this year's TdF, so be it..just enjoy and admit that post-traumatic crash with punctured lungs should have some limitations right? I am an avid JV fans but i think TP should receives the recognition he deserves. Visma lose Kuss earlier this year, that was a big blow though tbh. This is a team sport until the last few km's.
1 Newton = 1TP [Tadej Pogacar]. From today you can use an alternative name.
FTP. First Tadej Pogacar
After three decades of watching this sport I’ve never seen anyone make it look so easy and he did the same in the giro. I just can’t believe these guys anymore. I’ll continue to watch as it will play out as in the last three decades and still be entertaining.
Not quite as easy as the Giro, he could have won that by way more in my opinion, but Vingegaard is keeping him honest, and forcing him to go all out to make the difference in the Tour.
Way better nutrition than 30 years ago. These dudes are taking in 120-130g carbs can hour. That’s the super human part. The way they’ve trained themselves to process that much energy.
Most of us could only manage 60g.
It’s the « super human » part that worries me.
Jonathan Vaughters can’t handle the fact that Pogacar is going to win this ahead of Jonas.
Shouldn't he be managing his team instead of appearing on Eurosport? How much attention does this guy need?
@@jaybobd He is a big enough fraud to more than one role at a time.
When I watched JV weeping when he won that stage a few days ago, the pundits said it was a sign he was back. Instead, I saw a man who was grabbing a stage victory in defiance of his own weakness this year. I think that stage victory was a consolation prize. I think Pogacar may have won no matter what, but the loss of a percentage point or two after his crash means Jonas has no chance.
Lol JV today was the second best performance in cycling history. It's just that he was beaten by the best performance in history
@@Jon-cw8bb I am willing to be corrected.
Tadej needs to go for the triple. With 7 weeks to recover & peak, no one in the world could beat him in La Vuelta.
He probably has to let Ayuso or sbdy else to try and take that one, so their team doesn’t fall apart by the end of this season 😁
If he wins the tour he will go for the triple imho. Maybe even against Jonas. Good times!
aside from the typo (3 weeks not 7). I think Tadej will target the rainbow bands in Sept.
dude, Jonas crashed 2 months ago that probably slipped your mind. Tadej is barely able to drop Jonas and he had no preparation at all. Jonas is way stronger then Tadej. When he is back at 100% he will wipe the floor with Tadej. Tadej is nowhere close to the super alien from Denmark because Danish people know how to fuel properly, ask Mr. 60.
@@andrehufschmidTadej has learned how to fuel and keep the blood cool. He also improved in general. Its gonna be a tall order for Jonas to beat him in the future. Look how Jonas crushes rest of competition. He is in good shape after his horrible crash. Not too far from his best. His Plateau de Beille Watts (if you can trust them in any way) were his Best ever.
Tadej, Jonas and Remco are all writing history in Tour this year. Primoz on the other hand.. hope he’s alright.
Its simple, Pogacar is better this year than Jonas...
he didn't won the 3rd stage
he won the 3rd tdf crown
Agreed, Pogi went out to totally shut the door. Compliments to Jonas, he is such a good competitor… never give up.
The Venga Bus blew up
THere is a big elephant in the room. He is 10% higher power then Lance and Pantini and all that came before him. And can hold it for months. No other endirance sports have seen these types of performance gains....not in the last 10-20 years. There is no magic here......how can this be?
Agree . Everybody knows that
TP and JV are both capable of immense W/kg for crazy amounts of time. They’re both freaks of nature.
Trying to find strategies for the weaker rider to beat the stronger rider is sooo funny. Perhaps if the whole peloton rode against Pogačar they could make him crack, but what would it prove? We all WANT to see the better rider win and that's what happened. Tactics is about exploiting opponent's weakness to gain advantage. If there is no weakness, there is no tactics. They can do nothing that's not in the legs of Vingegaard.
Facts
Jonas just did the best performance of his life and the 2nd greatest climbing performance of all-time. I don't wanna hear about the lack of preparation. He's in the shape of his life.
Yes....and he Said so...
Old visma tactics was immuned to pogi to think they dont have enough strong riders pogi expected this kind of tactics confident enough to have almeida and yates behind his shoulder game over for jonas
JV you are my champion 💙. Could anyone imagine after broken bones, punctured lung and riding a bike non stop for 5 hours at mountains is a remarkable recovery and no one can achieve this level. No matter whoever wins this year JV is a true warrior of this year ❤❤❤
You appear in everything video comments. Annoying AF.
PS POGAÇAR wins
@@montautaCry 😂😂😂
According to Reuters, the overall leader of the Tour de France is tested every day, and every stage winner is required to undergo an anti-doping test. The race also includes pre-race blood tests, and riders can be tested at the finish line and in the hotels before and after stages.
Can we stop the bs? The fueling and tech is the biggest difference in times these days.
@@demondwashington3283completely agree, bike technology and food science had improved tremendously over the last 20 years!
ok…..and? rember lance armstrong?😉
@@florianschneebeli6047 testing is a lot better nowadays
Are the test done by an independent lab and are all the results of all the tests made public?
Im so over people not giving Pogacar his credit. He won 2 tdf already..geez He placed 2nd last year with a weaker team while fighting a healthy Sepp, Wout, Jonas, and Primoz!!!
The Tour is never done till it is done.
Those Eurosport comentators are funny. They can't hide the fact, they love Jonas... :) :) :) Guys, POGI will destroy Jonas. ;)
POG thinking about winning The Vuelta!
Pogačar brings so much 🔥 love it
omg …this is not journalism. This is the worst day for cycling. No one won TDF - GIRO away from the darkness day of doping. We are backto stone age …he is destroying all the best climb times from the doping era. Absolutely disgusting
Better bikes, nutrition, training, recovery.... yea I don't believe it either. LOL
Same as it ever was. Name a year in the last hundred in which more than one of the top three riders that year were not doping.
@@YelCan I’d like to believe that G didn’t dope. What do you reckon?
@@Stubbo1950 it won't make any difference what you think mate.
The haters/losers/jealous comments will always say you are doping no matter what.
@@simoncbr900rr awww. Do you also believe in Santa and the tooth fairy?
No no no. Stupid tactics vingegaard Never escort the other rider up a climb and give him a draft.
The olympics and world road race profiles have Pogacar written all over them as well😮😮
Plateau de Beille climb times:
Pantani: 43:20
Pogacar: 39:47
they beat EPO and crack
12 weeks ago completely broken Jonas: 40:56
Carbon aerodynamic bikes, gear, all the technology, power meters, nutritionists, preparations. That's the difference.
The record was bound to be broken one day. 30 years dude, thats ling enough. For the last 10 years to be honest the pro peleton was avoiding beatinf these times just bcause of the doping association, but believe they could have. Froome beat armstrongs time up the madone in 2014.
Pantani attacked already on Les Deux Alps I think it was. Rode alone and took a bigger effort.
All this triumphalism about Pog ‘being the best in the world’ is hilarious
Yes Tadej is the best rider at this year’s TDF, after a long season of preparation, but Jonas is the second best rider after a stint in ICU and two surgeries and six week training period.
Tadej only took a minute on Jonas today.
VSL did brilliantly, with a team significantly weaker than UAE due to loss of Kuss and their leader recovering from a massive injury a mere three months ago.
Jonathan Vaughters made idiotic comments - no wonder EF are not a top tier GC team
Pogi cracked everyone
Sometimes I think they don’t want Tadej to be so strong, pundits really need Jonas to win because Tadej seems impossible
" TADEJ POGACAR SET TODAY A NEW CLIMBING RECORD ON PLATEAU DE BEILLE: 39 MIN 50 SEC, more than 3 minutes faster than Marco Pantani in 1998! THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST CLIMBING PERFORMANCE OF ALL-TIME! WOW! "
...and yesterday this strong performance from him
and don't forget how crazy he won the giro less than a month ago
you can NEVER do that without doping...NEVER!!!
💯with u . They suspend Team Sky , they took 7 titles of lance , one to Alberto , one to Floyd … they need to do something . Do u guys remember how he won over Primoz .
@@babylons317 yea...its a shame!
Jonas need pogi to have 1 bad day and crack to win…But I don’t think it will happen
Is anyone going to talk about the records that were broken in the process of dropping the entire peleton??
Nice gig, wear your slippers to work day.
at least vaughters left the turtlenecks at home
Dude might as well wear Crocs.
He's officially torn up the race now for this year. Just fun for him from now on.
It’s nowhere near done and dusted. There are still 6 stages. I want to see Pog win, but anything can happen.
Well, that the tdf finished for me, it not the fact that pogi might win. It's the commentators slimy crawling over every little thing he does like no one else had done it before... Armstrong comes to mind, and we know how that ended! I can't live through a week of Carlton's hero worship and him trying desperately to remember there are other riders in the race. Good luck to all the other participants. I hope you get a mention...
100% true….☝️
Risky to say it’s over with a hard week to go. I’m hoping there are still some unexpected turns.
EPO is good stuff.
This year is the exact opposite of last year....POGI had a poor lead up due to a broken wrist and JV just made it as hard as possible until the cracked....Today jonas cracked...FINI
LOL... When did Jonas crack???
@@knudskoubo1090 Cracked today like an egg....TOUR IS FINI...JONAS IS FINI.
@@knudskoubo1090losing a minute in 5k is cracking lol
About 2 Kms from the line? He was almost riding into the barriers.... I love Jonas and I felt so sorry for him today...@@knudskoubo1090
3 more mountain stages, 1 hilly, 1 tt... not over yet
pogi pogi pogi
Robbie saves it there at the end.
Why are so many people against Tadej?? Can't you just give him his due..last year Tadej was hurt and had the same short training ans eventually crack.. But always making excuses for him. GIVE TADEJ HIS FING DUE!!!!!
This dress is better than the tiger/leopard one.
But not by much…😂😂😂
Vingegaard crushed the whole peleton and every favorites except Tadej. How can they (and not only eurosport experts) talk about backfiring strategy?! Jonas Vingegaard did win massive time on everybody that is not Tadej who is in superdupershape and for once did not bonk.
People are underestimating Tadejs and Jonas ride in my opinion. Look at the gaps behind them..
It is a little bit like on Jonas legendary timetrial. Tadej beat everyone by a big margin on that day. It was like you sprint 100m in 9,70s but lose to 9,50s. May look bad compared to that one freak performance but was actually supergood.
The story of if Visma did ride slower Jonas would not have lost time. How can they assume that? Tadej would have attacked and get rid of Jonas also.
He is not in super duper shape, hIs special Nutrition is the reason.
He is not? Okay, lol.
...well my answer to All those Cycling Pundits & Journos who just can't stop telling us ALL just how bloody amazing POGI is etc..especially compared to last years Tour..
Well I'd say Jonas has couldn't have had a worse build up to this Years & is infact Ten times worse than POGI's last Year?
I would go as far as to say He really should not have come to Defend His Title ... but just go to The Vuelta & Re-Set for next Year!
But here we are..He did turn up for all sorts of Reasons..but not in His best shape for sure...
POGI can only do what He's done & beat those there on the Start Line of which He's done with aplomb so far.. but I know If I were POGI Wouldn't for a second be thinking that Jonas has turned up in Tip Top/100% form to Defend his title against him...
which means his eventual Win will be slightly null & void...
Bit like going to The Olympics in 1980 in Great Shape in your event but with The Americans not there.. that Gold Medal wouldn't sit so well around your Neck?!
(obviously I'm referring to events where American Athletes could Well have been contesting those events!)
well said☝️
If that's Jonas blowing up...he blew everyone else away! Nah, no blowing up, he's was going real strong until the finish. The first 3 broke Patani's record for the climb
Done and dusted... wow. Yes its a big lead but .... one bad day in the Alps and totally different race. I think he is going to win but not yet.
I see dreams about Jonas exploding in third week are still alive.😂 Of course, all those weeks resting in hospital are good base for it. Experts…🙄
Can we believe it.? Are they tested every day?
The stage winners are tested every day immediately at the end of the stage. Other riders are tested at random.
Keep in mind Tadej has one more stages than Vinegar. 😉
@@alexamerri2what is there to believe? Any one who doesn’t understand that the top guys in any major spot are doping is just ignorant to how the sport world works.
Are all the basketball, football, baseball, soccer tested as well? What a stupid question!
Science solved endurance sport. Everyone in endurance sport at the top level takes full advantage of everything they can afford.
Remember: this is professional sport. The money in professional sport is from entertaining marks well enough that they can be brainwashed by advertisers. The entire economy of professional sport is dependent on brainwashers. Professional sport has no inherent interest in fairness or in excluding science.
@@alexamerri2 lmao
How is “he does not have the real base because of lack of training” sitting together with breaking the record on this hill, winning a stage and kicking everyone else?
Jonas crashed 2 months ago and Tadej is barely able to drop Jonas and he had no preparation at all. Jonas is way stronger then Tadej. When he is back at 100% he will wipe the floor with Tadej. Tadej is nowhere close to the super alien from Denmark because Danish people know how to fuel properly, ask Mr. 60.
It depends who's body can process the drugs the most effeciently
if, coulda, shoulda, dam
Hey! aint it over till its over ....and Pogacar learns from the book of Jonas 😂, but its the basic of the latter...more verses to come
TO GOOD TO BE TRUTH . At least he can back up a little lol . 😝
That last climb under 40’… Pantani was 3 minutes slower in ‘98 🤷🏻♂️
Pantani attacked on the climb before and rode alone the whole way. Pogi today rode alone for 5 k.
Pantani and Jonas pushed hard gears uphill
that will end their career sooner.
@@uffejohansen4315 Remco was also faster than Pantani
You guys with the doping, boring tour and other toxic comments are either new to the sport or just full of hate. Either way, thank you for your opinion but it matters not.
and you must be incredibly naive to even considering pogi & co. ride clean😂
@@florianschneebeli6047 You must be incredibly naive to even consider Jonas & co. ride clean as well. They're all on the juice. Just watch it for the spectacle it is or don't watch it at all
@@BMCS97 of course he‘s doped too. what annoys me is the hypocritical media and fans with all the bs „reasons“ why the riders perform like aliens
Because it’s getting out of hand now. What we are going to start to see happen is riders are going to have heart problems or even get die during GT’s.
Anyone who’s been a semi good amateur cyclist at domestic level knows how hard it is to push 450W for 5 minutes.
This dude has done it 2 days in a row for 40 minutes, during a race.
All this discussion is to try to make the tour interesting, but the fact is pogacar has the best today... and all the mejor rivals have had sirius injuries... especially the guy in second. I am very upset with the commentators all but one mentioned that... and last year, with the wrist fracture of pogacar and being in a weaker team, that was mentioned in most of the steges. pogacar got even cocky... some days ago... I hope a divine power gets the field level.
its reall funny how that woman always standing hands on hips and tucked out...and many many different on show positions..this is crazy
Agree. I can't stand her. She should be announcing only female/trans races.
She does seem rather aware that the male viewers will be ooogling her. At least she hasn't worn the stupid ugly shoes of the other woman.
Hope this not a rerun of the Armstrong days
Doping.
Translate to Slovenian.
Some things never change
If you think pro tour de france riders where ever clean, at any point in yhe last 110 years, you are a dreamer. Just give it up abd enjoy the show
Pathetic how you guys can't appreciate someones incredible achievements and straight away try to disregard them... time will tell but one thing for sure no one will care about what you have to say.
You present a false dichotomy.
Pogi is superb, and his accomplishments are hard -earned. He has used all the science and technology available to him to become the best road racing cyclist the world has ever seen. Chapeau!
Of course he takes full advantage of the science, the medicine, the rules, their enforcement, the exceptions, and anything else available to him. His team has a lot of money, spends it well, and gets the result they want.
Izzit bcos Jonas have not enough training after his crashed
I still think Tadej let Jonas beat him on stage 11 to let them think they can fatigue him. everyone thought UAE had no strategy and Visma were the most intelligent. Tadej is a different breed
👍👍👍
Race is over Robbie . Are you blind?
Pog is a traditional, brave champion and enthusiast competitor. A leader on the road. Jonas is a juiced wheelsucker with one talent. An uninspiring champion.
Never heard a worse take than from that unknown lady in black. Wow get real pundits please Eurosport.
Doesn't look like she's ever turned over a crankset in her life.
Who is this Danny person? Get her off the show. No value added.
Shes the diversity you need nowadays. Or else, you need a minority-person. Qualifications come second.
Diversity NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
@@TheSaturnV I’m all for diversity, but with improvements. Not just for the sake of diversity
What on earth does Danni know about the TDF? There is a plethora of ex TDF riders out there and Eurosport should be getting views and insights from ex riders. Another 'tick in the useless 'Woke' box - Danni should be embarrassed at taking this assignment for which she is totally unsuited.
For the advertisers it's not really that great that the tour is already decided with who's number 1, 2 and 3. No more suspense, cyclists already drinking wine, and the audience watching the tour will dwindle.
Wearing house slippers during a broadcast is poor taste. Have some respect and dress for the occasion.
Yeah he should have just worn flip-flops or Crocs.
Casually winning two hard stages in a row, sprinting away from everyone with ease...i hope he os truly that good, but sure looks suspicious 🤔
And Jonas not?
Super Human 🤔💉
Not the original line up jumbo visma
Tour de Dope. Love it.
Prove it
@@joyfultoni he just did.
@@kalaharikreef7371 how about the time trial last year?
But the time trial last year was perfectly okay?
@@sonckad does it seem like I am complaining?
The tour is now boring
@@robclarke5438 the Tour has always been boring
TAKE THAT VINGEEGARD ..REMEMBER YOU PLAYED OUT SETH AT THE VUELTA WHEN HE NEEDED HELP,?? YOU BROKE OUT AND WENT FOR THE WIN THE STAGE PRETENDING IT WAS FOR A FALLEN COMRADE
So many shit... Sepp won the Vuelta.
@@1thiago4 dummy in the house
@@1thiago4 Sepp was gifted the Vuelta... as a reward for his service but also because fans hated seeing his teammates attack. Jonas or Primoz could EASILY have taken the win.
Dude makes the grand tours boring. Guess I have been meaning to catch up on some other shows lately anyway.
Right. For one (fan base), the Tour isn’t over until it’s over. For others, game over. God bless multiple choice.
Adam is so annoying. Get him off the panel.
Boring