DPReview TV: Sony a6600 First Impressions

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  • This week Sony announced it's new flagship APS-C mirrorless camera, the a6600, alongside two APS-C lenses and the budget-oriented a6100 model. In this video, we take a closer look at the a6600 and share our first impressions of the camera.
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  • @MannyOrtiz
    @MannyOrtiz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +680

    Jordan was lying. We were really hitting it off

    • @GildedEntries
      @GildedEntries 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Just be careful with Jordan. This week he hurts Chris, last week he was doing the same thing to a GH5.

    • @CheeseOnEverything
      @CheeseOnEverything 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha this was awesome

    • @markyteo
      @markyteo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And how was it that Jordan was in the fetal position? I think you were literally *hitting* Jordan. Lol

    • @thomasgunn4146
      @thomasgunn4146 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You guys are hilarious

    • @dpreview
      @dpreview  5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Manny, welcome to DPReview TV!

  • @LeeZavitz
    @LeeZavitz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This is the best intro ever

  • @FamilyofTech
    @FamilyofTech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The best Honest Review about this camera that I’ve heard so far. Perfect review. It summarizes the feeling we have for this camera for a lot of people including myself

  • @courteoussammy112
    @courteoussammy112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you very much.Chris and Jordan always proving to provide honest and objective reviews

  • @mangoldm
    @mangoldm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    My a6500 is three years old and I am really itching to upgrade. The a6600 just isn’t offering enough to justify the price. I refuse to go backwards on buffer size, especially.

    • @Daniel-ld7xs
      @Daniel-ld7xs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you feel about the a6400 compared to your a6500?

    • @mangoldm
      @mangoldm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kamin8r I’ve never used the a6400 but my understanding is the key differences are much-improved autofocus on the a6400 while the a6500 has IBIS.

    • @MichielVanhoudt
      @MichielVanhoudt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same.

    • @iFlyTheWorld
      @iFlyTheWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A 6700 must be coming in 2021 with the XR processor found on the a1, new menu, side flip screen, 4K 60 and a better view finder there are so many areas to improve this. My a6500 is showing it’s age.

  • @guangshunlee7448
    @guangshunlee7448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    2020 is almost upon us and a full buffer still cripples the camera. DPR needs to make an even bigger deal out of this

    • @Princeton_James
      @Princeton_James 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the camera and the buffer is probably the worse thing about it. Horrible! I cant comfortably shoot anything.

  • @andrewjones-productions
    @andrewjones-productions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Speaking solely from a cinematographer/videographer point of view.
    The α6600 is good. For lightweight interview shoots etc where the camera sits on a tripod (B camera to FS5 for example) , I think it is a good choice. If I didn't own a α6300, I'd possibly buy it. However, the specs are just underwhelming enough to not be enough of a push to upgrade from my α6300. Even though this is a massive improvement on the shortcomings of the α6300. The rolling shutter is a big disappointment and to a lesser degree, so is the omni-present Sony penchant for 8bit 4:2:0 in UHD. There is a lot that is good about this camera, just not enough perhaps depending on your current equipment and/or needs. In short - I'm left with a 'I'll wait and see what they bring out next time' attitude as that rolling shutter is going to restrict how I use the camera and I know I won't be happy with the results. I'd rather save my hard earned money and invest in something down the road that will perform and give me the results that I am looking for according to my specific needs as buying gear is not a particular hobby of mine. Your mileage will differ.

    • @dasaauto2024
      @dasaauto2024 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Andrew Jones Productions I’m in the exact same position with the same cameras, and I agree with you. I’m a big fan of APS-C but until Sony cares enough to redesign their nearly 6 year old chassis, add a real touch screen, improve the LCD, the sensor and the video codec-I’m not going to upgrade to a Sony body. The Fuji X-T3 or T-30, however, might actually be my next move since Sony is at least a year away from another new APS-C camera.

    • @caldera878
      @caldera878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's now 6 *six!* Different models now in the a6x00 lineup and not one remotely stands out from the pack. I find that my old a6300 is still capable and wouldn't be expecting Sony to make a real XT3 killer period.

    • @georges8408
      @georges8408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Say the truth in simple words. Sony a6600 is an EPIC FAIL. it is EXACTLY the same hardware as Sony a6500. All these minor improvements in AF and color are just software changes/updates that could be done in a6500 as well since they have the same sensor/hardware/processor. Sony is trying to sell an old model as new. The only really new is the better battery.

  • @thomasgunn4146
    @thomasgunn4146 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great video and it was awesome seeing Manny Ortiz, Ted Forbes, and the Camera Store team there 👀

  • @davidmcc6666
    @davidmcc6666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The X-T3 is King. Cannot wait for the X-Pro3.

    • @Ashleyapples
      @Ashleyapples 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i won't, until they put a flip up screen

  • @eirjordan337
    @eirjordan337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Phew. Dodged that one. Looks like a no buy on the a6600.. credit cards lives another day...for now

    • @Ashleyapples
      @Ashleyapples 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      eh, what about the sony a7r?

    • @eirjordan337
      @eirjordan337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ashleyapples just deciding on the a73..

    • @lostinoc3528
      @lostinoc3528 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      your credit card will die when sony releases a camera that has the features you want.

    • @mrrolandlawrence
      @mrrolandlawrence 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      a few nice to haves but sweet FA that is a wow upgrade or new feature.

    • @lostinoc3528
      @lostinoc3528 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eirjordan337 guess your credit card will die after all, cause that cost more than the a6600 and doesn't really do anything much extra, and don't forget about the price of the lens.. might need a 2nd credit card.
      and you will need to hire a full time therapist after they release the a74, which will be anytime now, and will for sure be better than the a73.

  • @innote9314
    @innote9314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Feel like sony just become the new Canon.

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They’re undergoing ‘canonization’, yeah 🤣

    • @peterlemke3468
      @peterlemke3468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      This release came from accountants not photographers.

    • @akhyarrayhka4048
      @akhyarrayhka4048 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you're getting good and competition cant compete yet, then you'll get lazy, then the new tech will go to a9ii when competitor is catching up.

    • @ivankiefer3886
      @ivankiefer3886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Apsc is not sony main focus but anyways tell me a more capable apsc camera just fuji with the xt3 is. By the way fiji xt3 is king of apsc camera and lenses.

    • @DanasAnis
      @DanasAnis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ivankiefer3886 in 2013 or 2014 samsung released NX1. Now it's 2019 but NX1 still beats shit out of new cameras. Unfortunately this time Sony messed up. Felt as if what Canon would do. I hope the days of Sony leading innovation and exciting releases is not over. A6100 has no reason to exist, waste of plastic, A6600, well... Z battery is good, other than that.... old Samsung NX1 seems more exciting than this on so many aspects. 😶

  • @brois841
    @brois841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The real star is whoever is planning all of these events and interesting acts to shoot for Sony. Seriously great stuff!

  • @j.w.9407
    @j.w.9407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best camera review crew on TH-cam! Thanks guys

  • @ScottJWaldron
    @ScottJWaldron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A lot of really great point made about the A6600. Nice job! The battery, ibis, eye af, flip screen, and quite a few other features look great and would be upgrades to what I use now but man... Some things like video wobble are rough. Especially for the price compared to other stuff out there (x-t3, eos rp, etc).

  • @findbinnu
    @findbinnu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I simply can't understand why they would put a stacked sensor with zero blackout and 20fps in a P&S, and refuse to put the same tech into their flagship APS-C camera. Smells like market segmentation and protecting their full frame line. So disappointing to see Sony go the Canon way. And they want $1400 for this half arsed upgrade. I hope this camera flops and they are forced to introduce some serious upgrades soon. I was so ready to upgrade, but not for this cynical release.

    • @thebrothersthre3987
      @thebrothersthre3987 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its really odd as we know the XT3 has a fuji sensor. This could have all the XT3 specs and more.

    • @markw.6526
      @markw.6526 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It kind of reminds me of what Apple is doing with their products as well. Little unexciting minor tweaks here and there. Where in the big overall picture, mean diddly-squat and nothing completely new and improved. Yet they have the gall and arrogance to jack up the price to eye-watering levels. Yes I too hope it flops big time to teach them a lesson -both Sony and Apple equally!

  • @joechip1232
    @joechip1232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I think this is the first time that I've seen Sony hold back so much on its tech, especially in a flagship camera. It seems more like a Canon new release than a Sony one in this regard... Great video, though :D

    • @cammac66
      @cammac66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If this was a canon release internet will explode lol.

    • @lovedicedtomatoes9653
      @lovedicedtomatoes9653 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seriously. Compare the release of this to the release of the A7iii, which wowed everyone in terms of the price and features. Sony cut too many corners with this one, given the premium price tag.

    • @amphotography1746
      @amphotography1746 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      M6 ii seems better in ergonomics, af point selection and speed. Overall faster/easier camera for almost half a price. Haven't used either but seems like that. I hope that m50 ii will be coming soon as m6 ii is already better then m50.

    • @soundknight
      @soundknight 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This isn't flagship, the A7 series is.

    • @amphotography1746
      @amphotography1746 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soundknight I think Joe meant that it is flagship aps-c body.

  • @1fareast14
    @1fareast14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I wasn't expecting crippleware from Sony. Why is the buffer smaller than on the a6500?

    • @TimSheehan
      @TimSheehan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Potentially because they used the same amount of memory but some of it is being used by the real time tracking AF

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because Sony are reducing costs as much as possible, and for that they reused the same logic board and internals on all three new cameras. Almost all of the feature segmentation between them is done in FW.
      Still, this might be a bridge too far. The A6600, with either the 26 MP chip or a far more advanced body (UHS-II slot, front dial, joystick, battery grip option) would’ve been tempting. But, as things stand now, it’s the A6100 that I feel offers the best proposition, especially if some clever minds figure out how to port the A6400’s FW over.

    • @peterlemke3468
      @peterlemke3468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Ildskalli Spot on Sony dialled this release in with as few improvements as they thought they could get away with. It's not 2015 put UHS l to bed. What's the point of having a good frame rate and great auto focus with a measly buffer?
      A bone lazy and cynical effort from Sony. This release came from accountants and not photographers. Disappointing very disappointing.

    • @ziginox
      @ziginox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      a6500 owner here: The buffer on the a6500 is ridiculous. It often gets me in trouble, having to slog through a massive amount of photos at the end of the day.
      I need some discipline...

  • @TheEverydayDad
    @TheEverydayDad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That looks like so much more fun then the mosquito trip the rest of us went on 🤣

    • @maorvaknin769
      @maorvaknin769 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Everyday Dad😅
      Your the bast 😎

    • @caldera878
      @caldera878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You switch cameras like every other two weeks.

  • @tkimaginestudio
    @tkimaginestudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Unnecessary releases. Disappointing. The fact that ergonomics and battery life are catching up with DSLRs should not count as noteworthy news.

    • @dasaauto2024
      @dasaauto2024 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Canon is still sitting at between 200 and 250 shots per battery with 3 or 4 of their mirrorless cameras... So it’s mildly newsworthy. 😆

    • @caldera878
      @caldera878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mediocre expensive e-mount APS-C lenses to boot also.

    • @Ashleyapples
      @Ashleyapples 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aperture hmm does the price make it mediocre or the actual quality?

  • @philbrown8181
    @philbrown8181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. Very honest and frank, and the reason why DP Review is my go-to team.

  • @CourtneyByrd-lh6tk
    @CourtneyByrd-lh6tk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for showing the a6600 this so helpful in trying to choose a camera. Have a blessed day. I have been stuck between if I should wait on a6600 or if it's better to get the a6500.

  • @cammac66
    @cammac66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Same 5 yr old 24mp sensor, only usb 2.0, single slot uhs i, bad ergos, menus, 2015 touchscreen and tilting only, for a 1400 dollar 2019 flagship. Defend this sony fanbois. Or just gonna bash a canon camera?

    • @peterlemke3468
      @peterlemke3468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a lazy effort from Sony. They're taking as much money as they can off you and delivering as little improvement as possible.

  • @harrimakelaDOTcom
    @harrimakelaDOTcom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was awesome and so honest review - full respect for you covering all good and the bad without fear

  • @Benjamin_Jehne
    @Benjamin_Jehne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    This preview is the nicest way to tell Sony, this time you screwd it up.

    • @lostinoc3528
      @lostinoc3528 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sony is okay with it, since they will still sell more than the competition.

    • @crismeman3386
      @crismeman3386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lostinoc3528 That is a Canon move.

  • @Conceptx9
    @Conceptx9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question: why do you say the ergonomics are fantastic on the xt3? Doesnt the really small grip makes a pain in the ass to hold the xt3?

  • @antonmarkin
    @antonmarkin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    We need apples to apples comparison with Fujifilm XT-3 16-55 f2.8 setup!!!

    • @save_the_night
      @save_the_night 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or with the forthcoming Fuji 16-80 F.4 with 6 stop IS... :-)))

  • @ziginox
    @ziginox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you guys had given the 16-55mm its own video, especially for Jordan to talk about. There's no visible focus breathing to speak of, and it's pretty close to being parfocal. It's pretty sharp, but the contrast is what really caught my eye!

  • @josecolon8143
    @josecolon8143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh crap, Manny does it again!

  • @NikkThompson
    @NikkThompson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like the improvements and direction of the new 6600, but at that price (which I feel is competitive) why wouldn't you just get the a7iii?
    There are a few upgrades the 6600 has, but the a7iii is just so good, and only hundreds more.

    • @tubularificationed
      @tubularificationed 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nikk I'm currencly asking this myself.
      The 6600 would be the better camera. The processor of the A7 III is much weaker, too weak to ever get the current/latest eye AF performance which now becomes standard for the APS-C since a6400.
      It probably comes down to the lenses. I'm not happy with the situation for A7. The Tamron 28-75 2.8 has a horrible bokeh, and everyone's primes are overpriced for being unnecessary over-pixelpeepy.
      The lens situation has become a true problem for all full frame mirrorless actually. The L mount Alliance has the very same problem, also Nikon and Canon.
      Sony a6xxx has at least accesst to some Sigma APS-C primes, which are not that overpriced as the 2-3 times too expensive Fuji stuff.

    • @NikkThompson
      @NikkThompson 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tubularificationed I tried the a6400 when it first came out. Actually bought it as a secondary/backup to my a7riii/a7iii. Figured good backup and great option for just family stuff. Bought it and took it to Bay Beach (amusement park) with wife and kids. Shot around with it extensively.
      Ended up returning it and the kit lens, with a %10 restocking fee, and picked up another a7iii.
      Personal notes, ergonomics of the "range style" apcs vs full frame bodies, is huge. Chromatic aboration and pixel peeping picture quality (probably also a lens fault more than camera) was just not what i was used to. But the nail in coffin and worth-while restocking fee and added cost of the a7iii, was card write speeds. It just took forever. I like to shoot bursts, I almost always use silent shooting (electronic shutter) and like to shoot some bursts and then flip into video mode. With my a7's depending on the burst duration it might be a few seconds of waiting before i can switch to video mode. But the a6400 took literal minute or two. Also, writing raw to one card and jpeg to another, its those small things that I've come accustomed to since ive gone from a6300/6500 to the a7iii and then a7riii that become immediately apparent when leaving to go back to apsc. The sensor, even though reused, is still "magical".
      I had 24-70gm, bought the tamron version instead of the 24-105 as just a nice walk around lens. I like it so much i sold my gm. Very really compared boque, but it never stood out as bothersome or even made me think negatively about it. Also, the 24-70 range isn't what i would use as my lens choice for anything with purposeful boque, like portraits. My 85mm or 70-200gm are just so much better.
      The improved processor and autofocus on these newer models. I've just honestly never, ever, thought once that the current autofocus on my cameras wasn't enough. Always use continuous, most times wide area, during events/weddings/sports ill use flexible spot and the joystick (another apsc lacking). And not once let down by autofocus, thats fast action, low light, high/low contrast, etc. I've just never had an issue. Realtime in video, and the wifi teethering on the new a7r4 look promising, but reviews say that 60mp in electronic shutter cannot be read out fast enough. Other than flash use or bad florescent lighting leading to banding, i use electronic shutter religiously. And look forward to an a9 refresh to pick up the original for (fingers crossed) a decent price.
      As for lenses, I still have a few apsc emounts i havent crossed over from yet. Sigmas 16/35mm, but the 24mm gm equivalent actually looks to be the superior choice (size/weight/etc) and very impressed with the 55 1.8.
      So the size/weight gains from apcs, aren't very different. Pricing, as a whole, not very different. Controls, I'm just spoiled by full frame bodies, card writes, lens choices, low light, crop mode, etc etc. I just can't see how a $1500 camera like the 6600 can compete with the $2000 a7iii. Not saying the 6600 is bad, its definitly Sony's best apsc, and theyre great, but the a7iii is just so darn good. And with premium lens's being affordable on full frame now, Tamrons taking size/weight out of the equation. I just dont see a point to apsc. Anyone with experience, even at $1,000 APSC, looking for an "upgrade", for what you gain going to full frame, i dont see how its not a given.

  • @hidetakejapan
    @hidetakejapan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm waiting for review of S1H

  • @sarahelsherbini8989
    @sarahelsherbini8989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so confused can you recommend me a good camera mainly for pictures I was going to get the Sony 6600

  • @dhedc
    @dhedc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very thoughtful and thorough first look. You guys do a great job.

  • @JilesMcCoy
    @JilesMcCoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need help! I am Graduating from an iPhone to a “real” camera for my channel. I thought the 6600 would be it... but maybe not. Help! What has IBS, great af, mic in, headphones out, great 4K, 24p, flippy screen... all those TH-cam needed features???

  • @chippy511
    @chippy511 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video always a real pleasure to watch and learn from you Chris and Jordan ✌️😉

  • @michaelj7069
    @michaelj7069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG I'm dying from that opening.

  • @BlackIjs
    @BlackIjs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's refreshing to see an honest review.

  • @dannyv5317
    @dannyv5317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I'm also disappointed with Sony Flagship A6600. No 1/8000 sec mech shutter spd, no dual sd card slot, 4-2-2 10-bit videos-which the Fujifilm Xt-3 has.
    Why Sony? 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @I5H78
      @I5H78 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Danny V market segmentation

    • @12scarz9
      @12scarz9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agree...its 2019,flagship 1400$ apsc camera,and NO 1/8000?😳

    • @actorsreels1
      @actorsreels1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't the Fuji 4-2-0 10 bit internal? 4-2-2 with an Atomos maybe, but that's a whole other product at significant cost. There are things the Fuji doesn't have, like superior autofocus tracking, proxy recording, ibis. So it levels off somewhat on balance.

    • @I5H78
      @I5H78 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@actorsreels1 yes 10 bit 420 internal, but I rather have 10 bit 420 than 8bit 422

    • @lovedicedtomatoes9653
      @lovedicedtomatoes9653 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@actorsreels1 Right now you can get the X-H1 with a booster grip for $999. This camera does not feel like a flagship camera given the price. Too many corners cut. The A7iii was such good value when it was introduced- this camera feels at least a few hundred dollars too expensive.

  • @jackryder6732
    @jackryder6732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good review. Very honest.
    What would you recommend better than this camera but not too expensive

  • @MrDeadzaku
    @MrDeadzaku 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OMG Jordan! You had a side photographer? XD

  • @Bigboytravel
    @Bigboytravel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is the a6600 screen brightness while shooting 4k which was a a6500 problem? Also what lens did he film with?

  • @CMBpictures07
    @CMBpictures07 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh man , Manny Ortiz
    guest appearing in DP ... these are like crossovers now :D

  • @YoungBlaze
    @YoungBlaze 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I take it real time video eye tracking will only work with native lenses?

  • @shaolin95
    @shaolin95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It should have been $1200 not 1400. Still better AF in all areas than Fuji and sharper 4k and better high iso plus ibis but lacking dual cards and 4k60p should make it more worthy at $1200

    • @aloi
      @aloi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not sure about the sharper 4k, Fuji does have a higher bitrate, 10 bit 4:2:0 internal and 10 bit 4:2:2 external. Considering they're both oversampled 6k, any difference in sharpness is probably down to baked-in sharpening.

    • @zapadakofflv8560
      @zapadakofflv8560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in my country the price is almost 2000USD. Lol, that's crazy. no one in the senses can buy it.

    • @ghostofgw7781
      @ghostofgw7781 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zapadakofflv8560 In Canada the kit lens is $2,399...Thanks but no thanks !

    • @caldera878
      @caldera878 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sony lenses are hurting them more seriously.

  • @StreetsOfVancouverChannel
    @StreetsOfVancouverChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video quality is... **FABULOUS**

  • @thenagyyeno
    @thenagyyeno 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review guys as always.

  • @treepizzle
    @treepizzle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In no world would I take an a6600 and 16-55 over a a73 and 28-75. ESPECIALLY!!! With no flash!? I have the a6500 and a73 and the appeal to the a6500 is the small form factor and having a pop up flash in a pinch. Also. I was obsessed with the perfect vlogging camera for a while, until I realized. Who does this other than you tubers?

  • @RobertBratuOfficial
    @RobertBratuOfficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:44 Hello, Gordon Laing in the background!

  • @mortgagefinancing5558
    @mortgagefinancing5558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a question: I am going to live stream using my A6600 camera. The
    small USB cable that comes with the camera to charge ( im not sure what
    its called what type of cable it is) ...is there a longer one that i can
    purchase somewhere ? The one that comes with the camera is only about
    one foot long...not good for outdoor live stream where I may need a
    longer cable.

  • @paulhills1967
    @paulhills1967 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent, well rounded review.

  • @finallyanime
    @finallyanime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s when you quit and go home. Such truth

  • @jakob.k_design
    @jakob.k_design 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sony shooter since the first day here. I started on a Nex 7 in 2014 and upgraded throughout the years. And I think it should be a much bigger deal, that they essentially still use the same sensor from the nex 7 from 2011 (and it was not new back then). The sensor is over 9 years old it is just not acceptable, that they still use the same one. It feels like Sony is standing still in time with their APS-C cameras. They upgrade the af and video features but the biggest issue since the a6300 is the sensor.
    In the time sony released 6 APS-C cameras with the same sensor, they released 6 different full-frame sensors. The a7r got three different sensors in just four generations and people did not even ask for the 60 mpx one.
    I switched to sony full-frame a long time ago and seeing the development of their APS-C lineup i think it was the right choice. With that said i still have an a6300 as a backup camera.

    • @soravulpis96
      @soravulpis96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sony doesn't care for APS-C like they do with full frame. The big 3 camera makers treat APS-C as a second class citizen. Fuji only makes APS-C consumer and prosumer cameras.

  • @genghis2510
    @genghis2510 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a Nikon guy itching to try a Sony new DX model. This review indirectly says the a6600 is a bust. Although it doused my enthusiasm I giving this impression a thumbs up.

  • @unbreakablealex2732
    @unbreakablealex2732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And don’t forget, that Sony lied about that ne new aps-c camera would be beyond our expectations. Never trust what marketing people are saying.

    • @andi93
      @andi93 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      All the rumors about a "mindblowing" camera.. 😐🤨

    • @tubularificationed
      @tubularificationed 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this "beyond expectations" and also their Photokina statement "professional APS-C must exist" don't refer to the a6600 obviously, but to the mini A9 (a7000 or a9000) which obviously comes later, and which is kind of "announced" by the two new zooms made for a 30-40 megapixel sensor or so.

  • @puneetsingh.R.
    @puneetsingh.R. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which mirrorless camera is for bird photography @ $1000. I like fuji but AF, Tracking and EVF is concern. Please could u tell ?

  • @danieldougan269
    @danieldougan269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time for an a6700 or whatever with dual UHS-II card slots (or even those two CFExpress Type A / UHS-II SD slots used in the a7S III and a1), a better EVF, and 10-bit 4:2:2 internal video recording. Ideally, they would use the same sensor as the Fuji X-T4 or something even better.

  • @cottojn
    @cottojn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an honest review but again your honest review. How many pics can you take with the Fuji battery vs Sony Z batt, also eye auto focus far better than the Fuji. Although I like the quality build of the Fuji x3. I like the Sony I’m comfortable using it unlike the Fuji its like learning a new thing it’ll takes time I’ll get it eventually but why I used Sony’s and I like it. My personal opinion.

  • @mervynjack4108
    @mervynjack4108 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All the new series ability to record video more than 30 minutes is my no 1 feature.

  • @caleblatreille8224
    @caleblatreille8224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    of the three newest Sony a6xxx cameras, which do you guys feel is the best value? a6400 felt like a big deal upon release in a way that these two new ones don't, does that still hold?

    • @Ashleyapples
      @Ashleyapples 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, but now i want to better one

  • @stevofoo
    @stevofoo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Chris, just wondered the a6600 shutter button is the same as 6400's? or same as a7 iii shutter? 6400's second stage press is firm, unlike a7 iii thanks!!!

  • @DavekayBSC
    @DavekayBSC 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lack of IBIS is a HUGE issue with the XT-3. Fuji's zooms are stabilized, but none of their fast primes are AFAIK. That means if you want to use the sharpest glass on the system with the shallowest DOF, you're going to have to crank the ISO to keep that shutter speed up, and there goes any extra resolution you thought you had over the Sony sensor. At the same time, if you're purposefully going for motion blur, you simply can't get the shot with the Fuji without a tripod. For me, that's far more important than 2MP, or a slightly sharper EVF.

  • @lostinoc3528
    @lostinoc3528 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    the sample photos from this camera look better than the sample images from a6400/a7iii to me on your website. I doubt the image quality is actually better, I assume all 3 cameras are same w/ the a7iii being better in general due to FF, however still. the a6600 samples look great to me.

  • @odemata87
    @odemata87 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I highly doubt the X-T3 is in the same class with this camera. The omission of certain features I feel makes that very clear regardless both having the same sensor size.

  • @Ritalie
    @Ritalie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This footage is extremely good. It doesn't have the hard digital look. I just wonder how much post processing was done. It's tough, because these reviews often heavily edit the footage, and are shooting in RAW, which might not be the way normal TH-camrs record their footage.

  • @RM-hy4so
    @RM-hy4so 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Fuji with it’s X-T3 ($1499) and X-T30 ($899) are putting the same type of pricing pressure on the APS-C cameras that the Sony A7 III is doing on full frame competitors.
    Difficult to see the Sony’s latest APS-C offering to be on the same playing field as the Fuji.

  • @PatrickGuerrisi
    @PatrickGuerrisi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if I dont have an APS-C camera but I have a A7 with a couple of full frame lenses and me wanting a 2nd camera for a B camera and vlogging. Would it be worth getting the 6600 ?

  • @KrisSajewicz
    @KrisSajewicz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The A6600 will release in November, and the body will cost $1,400 in the US. Sony is releasing a bundle that includes an 18-135mm E-mount lens for $1,800.

  • @Simon-SBL
    @Simon-SBL 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the EVF like for fast action?
    I don't think that they are really that interested in developing the APS-C cameras.

  • @stew8584
    @stew8584 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watched your X-T4 review, but something that has puzzled me in the past and as I see dual card slots for the x-t4 and 3 both have, shoot me down in flames if you feel the need but why camera companies don't use the micro SD like mobile/cell phones do, I use an adapter SD card for a micro 64GB in a A6000 and have had no issues, is it reliability or heat or people loose them to easily, Sony could at least do that for their APS-C range or any of these manufacturers. Can someone give me a reason or two. This is a legit question I honestly don't know, maybe I missed the micro SD conundrum video. thanks cheers.

  • @robbquinnimaging4321
    @robbquinnimaging4321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris, Is the 6600 worth the extra $$ over the 6400? I am primarily a stills shooter but am fully invested in the sony system and am looking for a carry everywhere camera, otherwise I would really be looking at the X-t3, although the different battery than the 73 and 7R4.......decisions. Any help would be great!

  • @Ata5ll
    @Ata5ll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the a7s III explains well enough why you wouldn't want more pixels tho

  • @carloreyes168
    @carloreyes168 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I replayed the intro 10x already! 🤣😂🤣

  • @mattmitchell6157
    @mattmitchell6157 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone please do a direct comparison of the a6600 with 16-55 and a7iii with Tamron 28-75 with image quality / samples / af and noise. I think I know the answer but for the price these are the obvious 2 set ups to directly compare. I love my apsc but for the price and weight Sony is pushing me to go full frame. I’d just like someone to do a detailed comparison

  • @ioneanelo9668
    @ioneanelo9668 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should I spend 1500$ for new camera or stick with a6000 and buy lenses this coming year 2020?

  • @robcicca
    @robcicca 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 6500 overheats when shooting 4K video. And the screen dims making it almost unusable outdoors. The screen dims when shooting HD 120P as well. The 6600 does not have these issues, so that is important info for videographers.

    • @robcicca
      @robcicca 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 6600 does not have a time limit for recording video. The 6500 does.

  • @JL-dk3te
    @JL-dk3te 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome info vid 👌🏽 thanks

  • @asnowboards1
    @asnowboards1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best intro in a long time :D

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good god, every intro is funnier than the last...

  • @aikirdo598
    @aikirdo598 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tim had the a6000+a6400 and got rid because of the slow card readout. Constantly waiting. My fuji xt2 and xe3 read the card instantly!. "Why Sony"???

  • @quite1enough
    @quite1enough 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    In a nutshell - buy x-t3 or a7iii
    I wish I could afford x-t3, but already bought a6400

    • @lostinoc3528
      @lostinoc3528 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can sell your a6400. would be wise to switch to Fuji, when Sony does have the features you want, it will cost more than you are willing to pay.

    • @quite1enough
      @quite1enough 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lostinoc3528 there's a issue with ridicilous overpricing of sony products in my region. They dropped the price right before the announcement. I hardly can sell my camera even 20% cheaper. Overall I'll need about 50% from x-t3 price after I sell a6400. I'm a bit desperate :(

    • @quite1enough
      @quite1enough 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jomsies because I can't afford invest in lens, and because that stupid overpricing I wasn't able to afford 18-135 kit, only 16-50, but with the discount I could :(

    • @quite1enough
      @quite1enough 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jomsies and I'm mostly video guy, x-t3 have more flexibility in video modes, such as 2k res which is I mostly prefer

    • @ceddo2511
      @ceddo2511 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lostinoc3528 Fuji lenses are hardly cheap, A7III has the largest and best choice of affordable lenses for any mirrorless system to date and you can adapt the vast lens lineup from Canon very successfully too.

  • @Motshwane.Letsoalo
    @Motshwane.Letsoalo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that intro😅😅. Shout out to Manny!

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The only advantage this thing has over the X-T3 is the IBIS and it isn't that good.

    • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
      @youuuuuuuuuuutube 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree the X-T3 is overall a much better choice, however IBIS is not the only advantage let's be fair, the battery is a huge advantage, the grip is much better, the AF is better (but it's still very good on the X-T3) and there's a flip up screen which some people need.

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@youuuuuuuuuuutube I forgot the battery life issue, but the others are just differences, not outright advantages. Some people hate forward facing screens. Dunno why, but they do. I've seen Fuji fans consistently say they didn't want a side-flip or flip up screen. The grip is also very subjective. Some people think the A6xxx series are too short to allow for a comfortable grip because the pinky sticks out, and they've only increased the front grip depth on this model, not the overall height of the grip. The X-T3 has lots of advantages in terms of cinematography rigs because of the extensibility and the versatility that comes from 10 bit high bitrate HEVC codecs. The A6600 has no record limit and it records audio in 120p mode. The X-T3 has much less rolling shutter than the A6xxx series cameras, and it also has dual UHS-II card slots instead f the single one in the A6600. Both cameras can vary wildly in the opinion they produce in different usage scenarios. If you need IBIS and unlimited recording, the A6600 is the obvious choice. If you need great codec and 10 bit video, along with the awesome Fuji film simulations, you get the X-T3. But overall the choice is completely user dependent, which is why detailed and market contextualised reviews are important.

    • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
      @youuuuuuuuuuutube 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xmlthegreat I agree, the cameras are different enough that it's difficult to say one is outright better than the other. As you said, it's user dependent. But without knowing the user specific needs, the X-T3 would be the default recommendation.

    • @Ashleyapples
      @Ashleyapples 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Akshay Anand WAIT, idono about you , but fuji killing me by not adding a flip up screen

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ashleyapples me too dude. In fact the S1H seems to have the best of both worlds. But Fuji just refusing to put it on the midranges at all. I mean the X-T100 had it FFS.

  • @unbreakablealex2732
    @unbreakablealex2732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Three things that really kill it for me:
    Rolling shutter
    Low res EVF
    1/4000 shutter speed
    Those are the things that make working with it a little bit harder, than it should.
    And don’t forget, that the EVF resolution even gets lower in high FPS mode. Makes it look like a6000 EVF.

    • @Conceptx9
      @Conceptx9 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that 2m dots viewfinder that bad?

    • @unbreakablealex2732
      @unbreakablealex2732 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Conceptx9 try looking through the EVF of a new Panasonic Mirrorless Camera. The difference is night an day.

    • @richardbutler8532
      @richardbutler8532 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Conceptx9 Given we're now seeing 5.76M dot panels, and 3.76M dot EVFs have been floating around for a while, it's a clear bit of corner-cutting.

    • @Conceptx9
      @Conceptx9 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardbutler8532 I didnt know that but isnt those in a bigger sized evf so the resolution is not that much better? I mean if in a full frame that have the 5.76M dot panel, and the size of the evf screen is 2 times bigger than the a6600, then the resolution is not much better

  • @lewisrr1
    @lewisrr1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new lenses tells me a a7000 with the missing upgrades is coming soon... the 16-55mm are for the a7000?

  • @ziginox
    @ziginox 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean, the sweep panorama feature is useless, but even my NEX-6 from 2012 has it...
    As for the headphone jack, I'd rather have Fuji's USB-C and passive headphone adapter implementation.
    Seems like, it isn't worth the upgrade over the a6500, but if you were looking to buy the a6500 before, the a6600 is a good option if you're interested in the enhanced AF capabilities and battery life. Or the headphone jack.

  • @pawelsaracen
    @pawelsaracen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there an af tracking mode (face or/and eye) in 1080p at 120 fps available on a6400 and a6600? I have heard on one youtube channel that it is not on a6400. Is it true?

  • @SamoScopom
    @SamoScopom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:40 "and of course..." what?
    I'm sorry I either didn't hear or don't know the term

  • @FullTekAuto
    @FullTekAuto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does the a6000's series cameras have more attractive footage than the Panasonic G series cameras? Is it just the DR, bigger depth of field and Sony's color science?
    Can someone explain?

  • @SteveMasonCanada
    @SteveMasonCanada 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want the A7 4 but can't justify the cost. Was hoping the 6600 might be good enough, but don't quite think so. Oh well, would take a beating on selling my Canon glass anyway....

  • @ohgizzle2084
    @ohgizzle2084 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should i just get a a7ii? Or a6500? My budget prevents me from getting the iii.

  • @TJuice1986
    @TJuice1986 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the ibis in the a6600 better then ibis in the a6500?

    • @purepanorama8484
      @purepanorama8484 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is the same IBIS. No improvement at all.

  • @Rationalific
    @Rationalific 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:41 - Richard Butler: "To keep it simple, to make sure that it is not overwhelming for the first-time user."
    Chris Niccolls: "...And also to justify the cost of the higher-end cameras."
    This was not a joke or "skit". This was a true shill versus someone with actual dignity and honesty. DPReview...never try to change Chris and Jordan. Because they are the only reason why I watch and find these videos to be reliable.

    • @richardbutler8532
      @richardbutler8532 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, there.
      Chris and I agreed it looks like a simplistic (and rather petty) attempt to differentiate between the a6100 and a6400 before we started shooting.

    • @Rationalific
      @Rationalific 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@richardbutler8532 I only said that because it wasn't the first time I've witnessed that from you. I personally like how Chris and Jordan, Camera Conspiracies, Jared Polin, and some others are willing to tear into the marketing hype. (This is also one reason why TheCameraStoreTV lost its luster for me after Chris and Jordan left, because now, it's just, "Wow...isn't this Canon with 9 autofocus points in 2019 great for beginners who don't want to be confused by so many autofocus points?" I realize that you have a company to maintain (and if cameras don't sell, your organization may not hit the quarterly target with the click-through rate to camera sellers), and Chris and Jordan don't have to worry as much (just like in my job, I answer questions about insurance and adjust it, but I don't need to go out and sell it or talk it up for commission, and that makes a big difference). Although different people have different preferences (and different hosts have different personalities, and I can tell that you try to be as non-confrontational as possible...probably in your personal life as well), I feel that there is something to be said for telling the audience the truth about why companies make the decisions they do. And of course anybody with a brain will know that Sony didn't take out picture profiles because people get too confused, as I have an a7 III with picture profiles, and I never use them...and it's easy not to. I simply don't select the option, and there...it's hidden from me forever until I want to actually delve in and take a look. So while the audience is likely already wise to the corporate tricks, I do at least appreciate people who call them out for what they are...even if just for those poor saps who have limited reasoning ability and take corporate lingo for fact. And I'm not saying to make a big stink about it...but in a somewhat amusing way like Chris, only...in passing...get the truth out.

  • @Hawtload
    @Hawtload 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    that buffer speed is killing me smalls

  • @christopherbenison616
    @christopherbenison616 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one

  • @kbruff2010
    @kbruff2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video -

  • @TheOrisya
    @TheOrisya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never use in body flash...

    • @gabithemagyar
      @gabithemagyar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do sometimes ..... either bouncing it (controlling the angle with my finger) or with a snap on diffuser. never straight at the subject (too harsh).

  • @UglyCameras
    @UglyCameras 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is anyone ever going to make a vertical grip for a rangefinder-style mirrorless camera? Did the focus groups tell them not to do it?

    • @jdonalds2001
      @jdonalds2001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a vertical grip for use on my a6400/a6500.

  • @chennyye28
    @chennyye28 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you use to film this video? in the video skin tone feels better than the photo itself...

    • @cj64films
      @cj64films 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They said they filmed it with the new a6600

  • @FamilyofTech
    @FamilyofTech 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahahhah!!! He means nothing to me!!! Ohhh you guys are killing me. Good summary of the new Sony A6600

  • @BadWolf507
    @BadWolf507 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ima wait for a6700 hopefully it’s a better camera

  • @haagenkreutz3698
    @haagenkreutz3698 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a person with no camera at all, that is on the look for a small-ish camera for traveling pics/Videos: Is that good for a first camera or is the a6400 better for that? Im really confused

    • @purepanorama8484
      @purepanorama8484 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would honestly save yourself some money and buy the a6400. There are solutions for the battery life and you could just grab a small gimbal with some of the money you saved since the sony IBIS on the APS-C cameras has never been anything to write home about. I'm keeping my a6400 because it seems like the best value to me with the most reasonable price point. The a6600 seems like an attempt to push people into full frame camera gear with the small upgrades and price point. I just finally made the switch to Sony and struggled with whether I should buy the a7iii or the a6400 and I chose the a6400 just to get familiar with their camera systems and plan to keep it and buy a a7iii in the near future so that I have a great two camera combo!