Stew: Dungeon/f2p Hades: Clan boss/voice of reason Farting cow: arena and ending RTZs career Murderinc: crit dmg Chosen: math Darth: good dude with nice hair
Hope all is well Stew . I should fix a arbiter up since i can never find any good turn down meter champs ever ! You really do a lot for us low spenders/F2P .
Thank you for explaing the speed settings and mechanics so clearly. I struggled with Fire Knight 17 eventhough I watched many videos. I mostly lacked the champs and couldn't beat stage 17. Given your advice I tweaked my team and a few stats. I now use Tayrel as lead, Fellhound for reflect damage, Arminger, Apothecary and Ma'Shalled. Works like a charm :)
Nice video, I love high khatun for a speed lead and speed boost and turn meter reduction, use level 50 and works fine with high hp to avoid getting targeted and everyone gets khatun guaranteed at start of game, took me ages to get my first apoth
This video launched perfectly. Was planning on changing my gear, since I had the champions long equipped and wanted to try for fire knight tournament. Armiger+apothecary and a tyrael, helped me get to 13 as a 2 month player(only bought battle pass). This strategy works flawlessly even at lower levels. Lucky I prepared a lvl 50 armiger for spiders and I could equip him for 200 speed. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for this guide, definitely helped me understand the fire knights fight and set some goals for preparing for it. When I gear up Apothecary some more and get Alure/Armiger in a team with my Stag Knight I think I'll make a lot more progress in the dungeon!
LVL 50 Armiger helped me even with 185 speed because i dont have gear that is insane as yours, but i also had Duches at 208, Apothecary at 237, Coldheart at 156 and Rotos at 218 to hit the boss hard when the shield is down. I didnt keep the shield down 100% of the time, but Armiger was the one who i needed to get trough FK20 on auto and vecause of him i am now a proudly owner of the Arbiter. Armiger the King... Also huge credits to Cold Brew who was the 1st one i saw using him on Spiders 20 and so i thought he might be god on FK20 aswell. Good thing he is a Spirit and defence based champ... It took me from 7 to 11 minutes a run but who cares, its done, and mainly because or Armiger...
Ah so that's how we do the elite clan quest to beat the fire knight on stage 20+ before he takes a turn. Armiger SPD = 205, Apothecary 238ish, the Evil Eye mastery & 30% decrease speed. Nice!
After all of that, I thought you were going to put some speed boots on Apothecary to show what you were talking about. Armiger. So much utility I have no idea about. Thanks for sharing this.
Nice, I still can't get my hand on such speed but I'm thinking of (2 armiger or 1 armi and a stiched beast, 1 apo, 1 hellhound and athel I guess or corpse collector depend if I get through the waves
Question? Is it worth leveling up Karam to use with Vizier ovelis, Frozen banshee and gravechill killer for a poison team? I can get around 5-6 poison's to stack with up to 4-5 ticks each and karem's A3 says it deals damage from all poisons, will it just deal damage from the individual poison or will it include the ticks as well. I.E. With one 5% poison with 4 ticks will he detonate it for 20% or just the 5%?
Hi Stew. Thanks to this video, I was able to adapt my Armiger and he is succeding in his role as turn meter reduction for Fire Knight 20. I do need to work on other champions so I can clear it faster but I am finishing Fire Knight 20. My question is...Is there a point for me to train an Alure now? I recently pulled a Alure but with a comp with Armiger, Lyssandra and Lanakis, Armiger is fulfilling his role. But would swapping out Armiger for Alure possibly allow me to sub out lyssandra or Lanakis for stronger champs? My Fire Knight 20 team is Lanakis, Armiger, Lyssandra, Bellower (is stunning but he needs improvement) and Arbiter. I am finishing Fire Knight 20 in 8 minutes and 35 seconds so I'd love to knock this time down.
Early/mid game player here. Would the following comp work? (not for 20, but earlier stages) Lua, Armiger, Apoth, madame, Elhain? (I could swap elhain for Bellower, but I need to lvl him first)
Farming take time..im f2p btw but i got decent gears and clear all 20 dungeons with longer time cuz i dont have CH and armiger need to be manual to be useful specially spider
@@zorameh2446 CH is super rare to get, but if you have decent amount of mystery shards, arminger is not that hard to get. You can get arminger from market too, just keep your eyes open when market refreshes.
Hey Stew, once again great content. What’s the best way to get good gear. Right now I’m farming dragons stage 13 and the gear is meh.... I am trying different combinations of champions but no success. Is there a chance you can look at my account and see if I have champions worth using and maybe setting up the gear wrong
Double Armiger is definitely viable. The trash mobs are harder than fire knight with this strategy 🤣. I have Gala Fat and Hyria with them, F trash mobs. Badly want to pull Alure to replace Hyria, or whatever sleeper to take down them mobs
Love the F2P friendly content, I currently don't have a great FK team. Thinking of building up a team of Lyssandra, Stag Knight, Aminger, Zargala and then either Apoth or Rhazin. Any thought? Still a long way out before I can test it, my aminger, stag Knight and Zargala still need masteries
My issues with FK20 isn't the boss, its the 2 waves prior. I do 4:30ish runs but the majority of that time is spent on clearing the waves prior to the knight :'(.
Soulbond Bowyer is also not too hard to get and should work well: Rare, Spirit Affinity, AoE for the waves, and Deplete Turnmeter on her A3. Only downside is that she only has single hits. And everybody gets High Khatun, and she could replace Apothecary here: Speed Aura (better than Veteran), Increase Speed and Turnmeter, but also Decrease Speed Debuff, and can also reduce the Turnmeter on her A3. OR add both Apo and HK, for constant speed ups.
If you can get spot healing somewhere else, High Khatun would work well in this setup. Speed aura, TM boosts, TM down, and -30% speed debuff on her A1, plus all players get her at some point.
You say use Armiger if you don't have Alure, but because of week affinity Alure will sometimes miss the TM reduction, making it a slight risk for 100% clear. Therefore overall I think Armiger is better suited to FK 20.
If your alure is 2 turning the FK then even with some weak hits she keeps the turn meter down with 100% success rate.. unless she dies in the waves that it
It took me some time to get over dragon 19. But when I introduced a champ with stun gear, I got through it and now auto farming 20. I have Tayrel, apothecary, Kael, reliquary tender and felhound in stun. Felhound was my missing link. Any aoe champ with stun gear will work in felhounds place. I just happened to have him leveled up.
So you are supporting this annoying cancerous game that has ads everywhere, where you literally have a button for the game to play itself? Repeating the same animations over and over and over and over? Nice.
The auto grind is a part of any mobile (and even some others) f2p p2w game. Usually this is offset by the fact that hardest content and PvP has to be played manually for obvious reasons. The fact that this exact game has no content or can be called bad for other reasons, now, is another story. But the point is, it's like saying: "oh, you are playing a moba? Yo that's retarded you have only 3 keys to press, go play wow. Oh, you're playing a mmorpg PvP? You have only 10 keys to press, go play Starcraft or something" There would be an augment to which even requires more skill, whether action button pressing or meditative and strategic thinking and since many genres have both it would be a long classification process (plus different incarnations in the same genre). Point is, that's retarded if you consider gaming is primarily entertainment. The fact that is advertised so hard doesn't matter at all when evaluating quality or the above-mentioned topics. Plus, there are so many other people who don't play and still occasionally advertise it, and this is a way worse evil on your list (this channel grew on this game). So.. yeah.. like, no.
@@Luca48882 I admit I was a bit emotional when I was writing my comment. That happens when someone keeps annoying you with the same ad wherever you go. The company behind this game uses false advertisement and dirty practises like an ad on your phone, which has painted a fake "X" sign which when pressed takes you to the google store - cause guess what - the real closing icon is hidden on a white background and they literally try everything just to get that one extra download. That's my moral issue with this whole bussiness. It's your thing to support somethign like this, I refuse to. Now for the auto-play button - again, it is a matter of taste. I am not dumb, I know why it's there - but any game that is too boring than to be played is just not good enough in my eyes. Keep calling it noble names, keep justifying it for yourself, but the core argument stands - you push a button so that you DON'T HAVE TO PLAY the game. @Ivan M. Other games are really not relevant - I am criticising this one. And IMHO Your metaphore doesn't work. I am claiming that it's silly to have a feature to avoid playing the game. The propher metaphore and paralel idea would be using bots either in MOBA or in MMORPGs. If we take aside the fact that here it is an in-build feature and it's not against the game's rules - the logic is clear. Progress (gather resources, whatever) without having to actually play. And I dislike that. That idea behind this mechanism, whatever it may be. Anyhow - I recognize that this game might be fun for someone. I am not disputing some of its qualities like graphis and such. I am just saying it's a bit silly and that you are supporting a company that doesn't care about anything but money. Please feel free to start telling me the tale about "every company on the market is like that", I will gladly listen :)
@@adrianka8260 Sadly many "big" mobile games use false advertising (it's not the proper term that's why it is legally allowed). I'd like to precise that I'm not defending anything, I'm analyzing a phenomenon and explaining why it's like this and whether it is reasonable to expect it to change. It is silly to avoid a feature that plays the game, only if you stick to the oldschool concept of game. What is a game? Again, you're comparing platforms. You should realize that as games aren't the same on pc and console or haven't been on tamagochi or gameboy, the same way this "new" platform we have that is the mobile cellphone, has its own characteristics. We have moved forward, and games aren't luxury hobbies anymore, they have more and more entered everyone's life thanks to this new device. What is the target? What are their possibilities? There is a reason half of the world's gaming income is from mobile, quarter pc and quarter console. Mobile users are mostly casuals, they have really low standards and fall for everything. There are people with auto-affirmation issues or just suffering the lack of free time and want to feel that big e-penis. We could list all the cathegories, but point being, the mobile gaming ecosystem is really easy to exploit. Now let me get it straight: ths company is a joke, this game is utter garbage, this genre is getting outdated and I could list like a papir about why even in its own field it's so inferior compared to others that it hurts. But it is making millions and like many others they just milk this "niche" of gamers, that actually happends to be the majority (in regions such as china/asia they get even more exploited). Why is the auto feature there? There are a couple of reasons, but this comment is already getting long. Let's just say that in this model, this feature allows a wall between donators and f2players, but it hides so well people hardly recognize it. There are actually a couple others, that give people the illusion that they can really compete and do something, when in reality they have already lost. If it were for me I would delete the whole mobile gaming genre from the face of the earth, but sadly going forward it is more likely that oldschool gaming will die instead. Now, why am I here? I use various game videos to sleep, used to be Smite, HS, Dota, now it is this. Somehow found Stew and his "trueness" hit me. He didn't seem hating his job or faking emotions (I mean, seemed to do it less), and I began observing the thing as a social experiment. And other games as other situatons are relevant because what you are talking about is a thing of comparison. When VR comes around one day you will be criticizing these "button pressing" games instead of ones where you have to wear a suit, run with VR on a tapis-roulant, and physically perform tasks and actions. Your parallel tries to extrapolate something from one system and put it into another, thus failing. What Is the TLDR? If you care about the topic this is a sad age, and you, or we for that matter, probably won't withstand the stream.
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Stew: Dungeon/f2p
Hades: Clan boss/voice of reason
Farting cow: arena and ending RTZs career
Murderinc: crit dmg
Chosen: math
Darth: good dude with nice hair
I would for sure have put Stew up as the guy with the nice hair😂
You missed out
Coldbrew: Bad shard pulls 😜
Love what you do for the f2p players, great stuff again Stew :)
Hope all is well Stew . I should fix a arbiter up since i can never find any good turn down meter champs ever ! You really do a lot for us low spenders/F2P .
Thank you for explaing the speed settings and mechanics so clearly. I struggled with Fire Knight 17 eventhough I watched many videos. I mostly lacked the champs and couldn't beat stage 17. Given your advice I tweaked my team and a few stats. I now use Tayrel as lead, Fellhound for reflect damage, Arminger, Apothecary and Ma'Shalled. Works like a charm :)
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
Nice video, I love high khatun for a speed lead and speed boost and turn meter reduction, use level 50 and works fine with high hp to avoid getting targeted and everyone gets khatun guaranteed at start of game, took me ages to get my first apoth
This video launched perfectly. Was planning on changing my gear, since I had the champions long equipped and wanted to try for fire knight tournament. Armiger+apothecary and a tyrael, helped me get to 13 as a 2 month player(only bought battle pass). This strategy works flawlessly even at lower levels. Lucky I prepared a lvl 50 armiger for spiders and I could equip him for 200 speed. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for this guide, definitely helped me understand the fire knights fight and set some goals for preparing for it. When I gear up Apothecary some more and get Alure/Armiger in a team with my Stag Knight I think I'll make a lot more progress in the dungeon!
LVL 50 Armiger helped me even with 185 speed because i dont have gear that is insane as yours, but i also had Duches at 208, Apothecary at 237, Coldheart at 156 and Rotos at 218 to hit the boss hard when the shield is down. I didnt keep the shield down 100% of the time, but Armiger was the one who i needed to get trough FK20 on auto and vecause of him i am now a proudly owner of the Arbiter. Armiger the King... Also huge credits to Cold Brew who was the 1st one i saw using him on Spiders 20 and so i thought he might be god on FK20 aswell. Good thing he is a Spirit and defence based champ... It took me from 7 to 11 minutes a run but who cares, its done, and mainly because or Armiger...
Wow 1:44 time is incredible
Sweet tip for a new guy. Been told that speed is king but seeing it in action makes all the difference for some reason.
I have a level 50 armiger and he works fine on fk. He is fantastic
awesome!
Nice, Imma work on this boy! Thanks for the video Stew!
Ah so that's how we do the elite clan quest to beat the fire knight on stage 20+ before he takes a turn. Armiger SPD = 205, Apothecary 238ish, the Evil Eye mastery & 30% decrease speed. Nice!
After all of that, I thought you were going to put some speed boots on Apothecary to show what you were talking about.
Armiger. So much utility I have no idea about. Thanks for sharing this.
very nice I gotta finish building my Armiger but glad you did this with no legos
Great vid cheers Stew, working on my Armiger now!
thx for another great vid. Will this apply to spider as well? use armiger and apoth both but dont know if the faster speed will help here to
Thankyou Stew, finally a vid i have watched where Cold heart is shown.
Nice, I still can't get my hand on such speed but I'm thinking of (2 armiger or 1 armi and a stiched beast, 1 apo, 1 hellhound and athel I guess or corpse collector depend if I get through the waves
Nice! Was afraid I was gonna need 2 Armingers. My problem is surviving the waive really.
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Great one!
Stew, breaking stuff down like this is HUGE.
At last! A ftp, consistent strategy for the fire knight!
And I just got Armiger to 60 for spiders.....
You are a king! Thanks for the tips)
Thanks for all of the helpful videos! I heard that you are in Japan. Where are you? I'm on Okinawa.
Question? Is it worth leveling up Karam to use with Vizier ovelis, Frozen banshee and gravechill killer for a poison team?
I can get around 5-6 poison's to stack with up to 4-5 ticks each and karem's A3 says it deals damage from all poisons, will it just deal damage from the individual poison or will it include the ticks as well. I.E. With one 5% poison with 4 ticks will he detonate it for 20% or just the 5%?
Hi Stew. Thanks to this video, I was able to adapt my Armiger and he is succeding in his role as turn meter reduction for Fire Knight 20. I do need to work on other champions so I can clear it faster but I am finishing Fire Knight 20.
My question is...Is there a point for me to train an Alure now? I recently pulled a Alure but with a comp with Armiger, Lyssandra and Lanakis, Armiger is fulfilling his role. But would swapping out Armiger for Alure possibly allow me to sub out lyssandra or Lanakis for stronger champs? My Fire Knight 20 team is Lanakis, Armiger, Lyssandra, Bellower (is stunning but he needs improvement) and Arbiter.
I am finishing Fire Knight 20 in 8 minutes and 35 seconds so I'd love to knock this time down.
We all love you Stew! Keep do this!
Early/mid game player here. Would the following comp work? (not for 20, but earlier stages)
Lua, Armiger, Apoth, madame, Elhain? (I could swap elhain for Bellower, but I need to lvl him first)
I believe heal reduction debuff would really help to defeat the boss faster. Hence, Cold Heart. :)
rare artifacts with right sub-stat is rare to get you know :)
its really not :D
Farm dragon 20 like he said
@@wheatontisoy8047 yeah, i farm dragon 20 but i hardly get rare artifacts, all i get is epic or legendary :)
Farming take time..im f2p btw but i got decent gears and clear all 20 dungeons with longer time cuz i dont have CH and armiger need to be manual to be useful specially spider
@@zorameh2446 CH is super rare to get, but if you have decent amount of mystery shards, arminger is not that hard to get. You can get arminger from market too, just keep your eyes open when market refreshes.
Hey Stew, once again great content. What’s the best way to get good gear. Right now I’m farming dragons stage 13 and the gear is meh....
I am trying different combinations of champions but no success. Is there a chance you can look at my account and see if I have champions worth using and maybe setting up the gear wrong
Double Armiger is definitely viable. The trash mobs are harder than fire knight with this strategy 🤣. I have Gala Fat and Hyria with them, F trash mobs. Badly want to pull Alure to replace Hyria, or whatever sleeper to take down them mobs
Love the F2P friendly content, I currently don't have a great FK team. Thinking of building up a team of Lyssandra, Stag Knight, Aminger, Zargala and then either Apoth or Rhazin. Any thought? Still a long way out before I can test it, my aminger, stag Knight and Zargala still need masteries
My issues with FK20 isn't the boss, its the 2 waves prior. I do 4:30ish runs but the majority of that time is spent on clearing the waves prior to the knight :'(.
I’m stuck in 20 too. I need some more champs that aren’t magic affinity. I’m leveling stag knight soon.
Your problem was Bellower he slows your team. good when you change him. and if you need to guarantee this do it with 2 Armigers
just what I needed
What the hell is that 9 second fire knight 20!
Soulbond Bowyer is also not too hard to get and should work well: Rare, Spirit Affinity, AoE for the waves, and Deplete Turnmeter on her A3. Only downside is that she only has single hits.
And everybody gets High Khatun, and she could replace Apothecary here: Speed Aura (better than Veteran), Increase Speed and Turnmeter, but also Decrease Speed Debuff, and can also reduce the Turnmeter on her A3. OR add both Apo and HK, for constant speed ups.
i watched a lot of your video stew, tnx
How did he have his best time at :09 seconds?
I was just about to ask that!!!! How is that possible?
At 10:25 he mentioned something about changing his frame rate. I’m guessing it’s a mod to his computer or game app.
Thats sadly my problem with armiger...he wont use a2 when boss atk bar is plenty
Fastest run of FK 20... 9 SECONDS! 9 FORKING SECONDS!
Great video.
If you can get spot healing somewhere else, High Khatun would work well in this setup. Speed aura, TM boosts, TM down, and -30% speed debuff on her A1, plus all players get her at some point.
Can u try elfguard too?
I can and I have her at 60, but she's really bad.
thanks heaps just had 3 run at fire 20 won 2 of them
The real problem is getting them to lvl5 and then lvl6 which is PITA.
I got valk. Makes fire knight a breeze
tomb lord is the best on FK
Music ???
Allure is better than Armiger right?
She is if you can get her there, but she'll keep it down very easy with the same exact gear as Armiger.
You say use Armiger if you don't have Alure, but because of week affinity Alure will sometimes miss the TM reduction, making it a slight risk for 100% clear. Therefore overall I think Armiger is better suited to FK 20.
If your alure is 2 turning the FK then even with some weak hits she keeps the turn meter down with 100% success rate.. unless she dies in the waves that it
"If you farm dragons 20"? I thought you said this was easy.
I don't have good enough artifacts to reach that stage, I can beat dragons 19 but not 20.
Farming dragons 19 or even 15 is able to give you just as good of gear it just takes longer
It took me some time to get over dragon 19. But when I introduced a champ with stun gear, I got through it and now auto farming 20. I have Tayrel, apothecary, Kael, reliquary tender and felhound in stun. Felhound was my missing link. Any aoe champ with stun gear will work in felhounds place. I just happened to have him leveled up.
@@wheatontisoy8047 Thanks for the helpful tip. I'll equip a stun set and see how I go. Much appreciated.
So tired of hearing "All you need to do is....."
please , stew , stop making vids about armiger....you're gonna get plarium to notice how good he is and i sense a huge nerf inc...
Plarium seems already nerfed him. His a2 does not work like it used to now.
So you are supporting this annoying cancerous game that has ads everywhere, where you literally have a button for the game to play itself? Repeating the same animations over and over and over and over?
Nice.
How did you make it all the way to stews unproblematic TH-cam page with that annoying mindset
The auto grind is a part of any mobile (and even some others) f2p p2w game. Usually this is offset by the fact that hardest content and PvP has to be played manually for obvious reasons. The fact that this exact game has no content or can be called bad for other reasons, now, is another story. But the point is, it's like saying: "oh, you are playing a moba? Yo that's retarded you have only 3 keys to press, go play wow. Oh, you're playing a mmorpg PvP? You have only 10 keys to press, go play Starcraft or something" There would be an augment to which even requires more skill, whether action button pressing or meditative and strategic thinking and since many genres have both it would be a long classification process (plus different incarnations in the same genre). Point is, that's retarded if you consider gaming is primarily entertainment. The fact that is advertised so hard doesn't matter at all when evaluating quality or the above-mentioned topics. Plus, there are so many other people who don't play and still occasionally advertise it, and this is a way worse evil on your list (this channel grew on this game). So.. yeah.. like, no.
@@Luca48882 I admit I was a bit emotional when I was writing my comment. That happens when someone keeps annoying you with the same ad wherever you go. The company behind this game uses false advertisement and dirty practises like an ad on your phone, which has painted a fake "X" sign which when pressed takes you to the google store - cause guess what - the real closing icon is hidden on a white background and they literally try everything just to get that one extra download.
That's my moral issue with this whole bussiness. It's your thing to support somethign like this, I refuse to.
Now for the auto-play button - again, it is a matter of taste. I am not dumb, I know why it's there - but any game that is too boring than to be played is just not good enough in my eyes.
Keep calling it noble names, keep justifying it for yourself, but the core argument stands - you push a button so that you DON'T HAVE TO PLAY the game.
@Ivan M. Other games are really not relevant - I am criticising this one. And IMHO Your metaphore doesn't work. I am claiming that it's silly to have a feature to avoid playing the game. The propher metaphore and paralel idea would be using bots either in MOBA or in MMORPGs. If we take aside the fact that here it is an in-build feature and it's not against the game's rules - the logic is clear. Progress (gather resources, whatever) without having to actually play. And I dislike that. That idea behind this mechanism, whatever it may be.
Anyhow - I recognize that this game might be fun for someone. I am not disputing some of its qualities like graphis and such. I am just saying it's a bit silly and that you are supporting a company that doesn't care about anything but money.
Please feel free to start telling me the tale about "every company on the market is like that", I will gladly listen :)
@@adrianka8260 Sadly many "big" mobile games use false advertising (it's not the proper term that's why it is legally allowed). I'd like to precise that I'm not defending anything, I'm analyzing a phenomenon and explaining why it's like this and whether it is reasonable to expect it to change. It is silly to avoid a feature that plays the game, only if you stick to the oldschool concept of game. What is a game? Again, you're comparing platforms. You should realize that as games aren't the same on pc and console or haven't been on tamagochi or gameboy, the same way this "new" platform we have that is the mobile cellphone, has its own characteristics. We have moved forward, and games aren't luxury hobbies anymore, they have more and more entered everyone's life thanks to this new device. What is the target? What are their possibilities? There is a reason half of the world's gaming income is from mobile, quarter pc and quarter console. Mobile users are mostly casuals, they have really low standards and fall for everything. There are people with auto-affirmation issues or just suffering the lack of free time and want to feel that big e-penis. We could list all the cathegories, but point being, the mobile gaming ecosystem is really easy to exploit. Now let me get it straight: ths company is a joke, this game is utter garbage, this genre is getting outdated and I could list like a papir about why even in its own field it's so inferior compared to others that it hurts. But it is making millions and like many others they just milk this "niche" of gamers, that actually happends to be the majority (in regions such as china/asia they get even more exploited). Why is the auto feature there? There are a couple of reasons, but this comment is already getting long. Let's just say that in this model, this feature allows a wall between donators and f2players, but it hides so well people hardly recognize it. There are actually a couple others, that give people the illusion that they can really compete and do something, when in reality they have already lost. If it were for me I would delete the whole mobile gaming genre from the face of the earth, but sadly going forward it is more likely that oldschool gaming will die instead. Now, why am I here? I use various game videos to sleep, used to be Smite, HS, Dota, now it is this. Somehow found Stew and his "trueness" hit me. He didn't seem hating his job or faking emotions (I mean, seemed to do it less), and I began observing the thing as a social experiment. And other games as other situatons are relevant because what you are talking about is a thing of comparison. When VR comes around one day you will be criticizing these "button pressing" games instead of ones where you have to wear a suit, run with VR on a tapis-roulant, and physically perform tasks and actions. Your parallel tries to extrapolate something from one system and put it into another, thus failing. What Is the TLDR? If you care about the topic this is a sad age, and you, or we for that matter, probably won't withstand the stream.
Who forced you to play?