Hey! We happen to currently have a couple spots for Ultra Boss hitters in our clan-system. If you do 20+ million to Ultra, add ChoseN#3140 on Discord and I'll find you a spot. Have a good day everyone!
I would like to.. I can do 16-17 mil a key on UNM with no life still gear. Running Rotos, Venus Valk Bad El and Tayrel. Im sure with life steal I could go over 20. (3.7m player power.)
@@jeffsewell1942 In theory... I doubt it though unless you have another cross affinity tank doing counters with t6 mastery with AoE A1 an lifesteal. Miscreated monster's shield is based on his AoE damage whereas Zelotah's is based on his HP. I honestly don't think it will 1/8 as strong as Frank's shield. Basically if you don't have Frank your best bet is probably to get a counter cross affinity tank with coldheart and armiger. Zelotah would probably need someone else for sustain if not counter attacking and you can't have 3 spots in your comp just for support without speed, defense down and consistent meter drop
Alternative Spider 20 team that works for me 90% of the time on auto: L- Lyssandra Coldheart Suzerain Katonn - Retribution tank (Or various other obtainable Spirit A1 aoe attackers) Royal Guard Rae - Retribution tank (Or various other obtainable A1 aoe attackers) *High ACC, SPD, and Health on Lyssandra. High health to avoid being attack by spiderling even if/when Katonn / Coldheart die. ACC~250 to reduce spider's turn meter on A2. SPD-254 personally, although I've over killed this champion's speed myself for various uses, may not be as high of a requirement than HP/ACC. *I use two tanks to eliminate bad luck in Retribution/leech set counter attack procs. With only one, I was only killing spider 20 about 1 out of 4 tries. I used Rae as I had her lvled, is strong vs spirit, and her freeze can be useful to reduce bad rng on counterattack, although it was a struggle to get her health so low to have spiderlings chunk out 25% health on each hit for Retribution to proc. I'd advise using another spirit or possibly a good DEF Force A1 aoe tank for this ideally... As when my Katonn sometimes dies, Spiderlings will take out my Coldheart next, although Royal Guard alone at this point is enough to finish her off, with Rae tanking *Royal Guard and Coldheart is self-explanatory. Stack crit/crit damage, and some ACC on at least one of them to help with Lyssandra's turn reductions to never allow the boss to attack. Sorry if you dont have one or the other, best luck in summoning them to come! Although you could maybe use multiple Armiger's (uncommon) if you are struggling to spawn a decent Max enemy HP damager + turn reduct. 2 Max enemy HP damage dealers significantly decrease fight time, and reduces your odds of bad rng for your tanks not to proc a counter attack leech set heal.
@@TheExel2000 i have 2 CH, 1 alure and a zephyr tank or sinesha tank, all of them still die after big spider aoe attack no miscreated and rg, its so hard
@@tpenoel88 It's so frustrating, I didn't even get cold heart or RG until recently either. I feel like I'm missing so many key champs that seem almost required for certain content. I don't have allure, skullcrusher, monster, Pain Keeper, Psylar, etc. Hell, i'm almost level 70 and I have yet to pull Marked for the Rhazin fusion. Luckily I actually pulled Rhazin directly from a shard but it's crazy that I still don't have her yet. I'd kill for a second ColdHeart. I will say i've managed to be able to auto stage 20 of all dungeons except Spider so there is that. **shrug**
@@StewGamingTV Yeah I saw your vid on the a1 aoe with ca mastery and lifesteal set. A good option, I'm kind of hoping to not have to invest all of that time and resources in a very niche roll like that. But beggars can't be choosers :)
@@drawmaster77 Whenever I use baroness, she always wastes turns by using that veil buff or she uses her A1 over and over instead of her A3. I was wondering if I should even take her to 60. I'm early mid-game and she is at 50.
How about strats without miscreated monster. All the strats I see always include him if there not showing the royal guard coldheart strat. I havent been able to pull him to save my life and I'm stuck on the 17 mission.
Hey dude, to late but I complete the stage 17 with a skullcrusher instead of miscreated monster. My others champs are duchess (tank), coldhearth, Foli (decease defense) and Skullcrown (control little spiders)
I just started beating Spider 20. My team is Nethril, Stag Knight, Trunda, Miscreated Monster and Apothecary. Because Nethril is mostly defense in my build he serves as a cross affinity tank as they target him.
OMG... I FINALLY broke that Spider 19 barrier (using 3 coldhearts, Ignatius and Draco on manual) and am now currently getting the Spider 20 on auto done for the Arbiter quest. Been stuck for months... I beat it once already in about 3:30 using the team shown at 10:26. Thank you Chosen. for real
Hey I just wanted to say thanks a lot! I’ve been struggling to find a proper team, had a bunch of big leggo’s like rya and kymar they just didn’t fit. After watching your video, i went from a 10m spider 20 (not successfully beaten on auto) to a 1.40 min auto run. Just by using 1 cold heart, 1 royal guard rhazin miscreated monster and taryel So thanks a lot! It’s really helped more than you know
Infernal baroness and nazana work great as well. As far as sustain goes, there aren't really any champs like mistreated monster. Warlord perhaps but I doubt people have him, you could put bellower or something with cc and stun set but those shields from MM are just insane. As far as damage goes, there aren't really any strats that don't include cold hearts or royal guard. Armiger is usable but then again, you need the good sustain for cross affinity tank and there aren't any as good as Frank. So pretty much the strat is to either use 3 dps with defense down champ or MM, warlord with either cold heart/armiger/royal guard. I'd love to see a comp that doesn't use more than 2 cold hearts without Miscreated Monster otherwise the whole strat is pretty much use MM to buy you time to do heart seekers
@@IsaacSpeedyBeats it's all about team comps. Husk is a weak affinity for spider 20 and doesn't hit quite as hard as an RG or a CH. People use armiger for tm control on spider/fk and when he does hit with his a2, it does do a decent chunk of dmg. Husk isn't used much because he is inferior to coldhearts and royal guards in dragon and in fire knight but then again, it's all about your team composition
I'm pretty new to the game and don't have any of the monsters that you mentioned. My only legendary is Wurlim right now and I'm hoping to get Cillian. I'm still waiting for my Dark Athel from the daily progression even. Could you talk more about the specific buffs and debuffs that are needed and recommend some rares to use as temporary replacements until you get the better epics and legendaries?
Yup...Spider20 strat that includes MM = insta dislike. You can see that even with his insane gear, Rhazin gets shredded when the shield isn't up. MM makes Spider easy-mode. If we had him, we wouldn't be looking for strategies on how to farm Spider20!
As someone who has Miscreated monster, I can assure you it’s not. It’s more like if you have the fucking gear then it’s easy. I’m stuck on spider 17 with an absolute god team. So trust me, you would still be here just like me. Lol. I have almost his exact same team and can’t get past 17. Gear is king
So i've been unable to beat spiders 19. Current team is Duchess Lilithu - Revives me and blocks poison debuffs Miscreated Monster - Shields like a boss Apothecary - Speed and heals Rhazin - Weaken+Debuff and turn meter dump Coldheart - Nuker + Turn meter dump So...... is it just a gear thing? Cause all these units are fully booked. Cant figure out whats wrong with my comp that i cant beat it.
I found this video very useful , I was doing like 8 minute runs on stage 20 as I was doing it manual . I use a team of Apothecary , Rhazin , Coldheart , Psylar and Scyl as I do not have MM yet . I can auto around 3 minutes now which should improve with better gear and great hall upgrades .
While the heroes are attainable one of the biggest problems people find trying to copy these is the fact they do not have anywhere near the Great Hall boosts you have.
Do you think Zelotah could be a replacement for MM? Im not dure if theres actually another epic champ we could use that places good shields and its not forze affinity...
Spider 20 is probably old news for most at this point. But I started playing the game late. This video helped me a lot with my approach on Spider 20 auto. I finally passed it and completed my quests and was able to collect my Arbiter! Final team ended up being: Rhazin (tank), Big 'Un w/stun set (crowd control), Miscreated Monster (assist), Coldheart & Septimus (nukage)--very similar to your video. Thanks!
I’m stuck here cleared it manually but not auto yet, using skart as tank in lifesteal (along with his crazy good dungeon aura) along with apoth tayrel nethril and experimenting with the last spot between rahzin foli and some others. I focused on defense and hp on my tank but didn’t consider resist maybe that is my problem.
Yo dude, the only thing you left out of the video you might want to consider putting in future videos, is how important the great hall is for your champions. A lot of people neglect the great hall.
Hi! I don't have psylar or royal guard. Which champion can I use instead? The speed decrease, and the does it necessarily has to be aoe or single debuff for boss is fine? Best that I have is lightsworn in this category. But I have cold heart, MM, apoth and soon for Razin
good video, but lets be fair, your ch with 300+ cd is godly, I'd never see even half of these numbers :) Can you do spiders 17-19? It may be harder than 20 because affinity.
is Hope a viable replacement for Miscreated Monster, now that she's been buffed? Is her Shield good enough to make her a good carry champion in Spider Den?
@@justinw4713 I have fed off more than that, for some reason raid likes to throw me CH's, bellowers and paragons and I have gotten well over 10 of each of those. I would like the game to give me new things.....
So basically you want to tell us that until we have this team "at some point in the game" we should not go for Spider right? Well this thing boosted my confidence as a beginner and put me more deep of thinking that how other content creators are having 4 to 5 star banner in their so called f2p (with extremely good-luck with having 2 epic, best rare what is not in many players luck) from spider without giving a proper guide or any proper idea about how to clear it, your video comes. Thanks buddy! I think this is reason why not many new players are coming to the game ( lack of proper guidance).
I am currently on Spider 14. My team is Lyssandra, Psylar, Tayrel, Rhazin and Big'un. planning to drop big'un out once my Armiger is Ranked up or I get lucky and pull a Coldheart. My biggest issue is keeping my team alive, I just have to hope I can chain the turn meter decrease so nothing gets a turn. Happens about 50% of the time
Great vid!! I have most of the champions you mentioned. Hopefully I can peace a group together to beat 20. CC seems to be my issue. just pulled psylar and seer. Thnx
Finally got through spiders 20 with High Khatun, Ghrush, Stag Knight, Martyr and Valkyrie. resistance on Martyr and Valkyrue was important. Ghrush ended up dying near the end. It was weird how Scyl wasn't required. the all spirit team also did spiders 19 on auto. Almost 10 minutes, but counter attack. Arena and great hall sucks. but I was able to get spiders 20. whoopie.
I think I saw someone say to manual combat stage 19, it IS harder but thankfully you dont need to auto it. I'd still love to see a solve stage 19 guide
The only 'affordable' non-hp-burn non-legendary character that all the TH-cam influencers use in all the 'easy to get' spider 20 vids is Miscreated Monster. This video it's the same video that I saw on all the influencers... Nothing new, basically the same teams with MM. You should put his name in the description so I don't waste my time since nobody could figure out another team in 6 months. Sorry for taking my flame dear CM but this is so true!
Watching this I'm thinking now on a team: 2 Coldhearts, Royal Guard, Venus, Kymar. The shitty thing is, I'm really lucky with pulls (also, I recommend to everyone: forget about shard events, they are just for milking players. I pulled ALL my legos and best epics outside events), but my gear pretty much sucks. Therefore it is an awesome idea, to reset their skills and send the again. The question is: 1. Are the Coldhearts gonna use their A3 in this case, or they just go with the A2? Also the speed tune, like is that okay, if the Coldhearts are 200+ spd, the Royal Guard too, so they're gonna go twice before the spider and the spiderlings? Everything should be history after 2 Takedowns and 2 Heartseekers, right?
How can I dot it if I don't have coldheart or royal guard I do have rhazin, miscreated, apothecary, being playing since 8 month pull like 200 void shard over 2k ancient and no royal guard or coldheart stuck at spider 15....
Can this work with Nazana? I would like to test it with ex. retribution mastery and atk gear but i guess it doesnt work. Or just stack her with defense. I havent had the time to invest in her yet shes only 5 star atm.
Try to come when I’m streaming. Obviously I can’t get to everyone all the time, there isn’t enough hours in the day but I try my best to help people who show up when I’m streaming.
@@ChosenPlaysYT dope man just hope everyone is safe now that this virus obviously has us all cooped up. Great content tho my dude kicked up like 3 more million on my lower tier CB which asbout double. stay safe meing
How do you make coldheart use a3 out of the gate? She wastes time with her a2. On manual I can easily beat spider20 in under a minute. Auto takes forever and loses 80% of the time bc of the ridiculously stupid AI
If I had one blue shard for every time my CH blasted her Heartseeker straight into Fire Knight's shield when it says 10, I could summon a Venus, a Valk, and a Santa.
CAN YOU HELP CHOFLY MY RHAZIN DEF IS 3251, CR IS 104, CD IS 142, ACCURACY IS 349, SPEED IS 193. BUT HE STILL IS A WEAK HITTER ON SPIDER 20 HE IS FULLY BOOKED TOO. WHAT IS THE REASON ???
I can auto the highest stage of every dungeon in this game, but haven't been able to clear stage 16 of Spiders, and it's the same affinity as the last stage. It's really frustrating and annoying.
Tyrant Ixlimor (Demonspawn Legy), insane 100 % aoe, 3 turn hp burn. Cupidus (Sacred Order Legy, aoe hp burn for 2 turns with a 50% chance, unrestistable, but you have to kill a spiderling manually, since he has to kill something to procc, the effect. Those are the two i know
Ultimate Galek does, and he's free w/Prime. If you have him, you can do it. BUT, he needs to have an Increase Attack buff to do it well. So you'll need to find a champ with that buff to slot in. Someone like Gorgorab can do that and still fill the healer/rez role as well. I'll be maxing my Gorg to try this.
How are you able to hit that huge damage by Coldhearts and Royal Guards? I have them on 60 level, fully ascended and mastered including Warmaster mastery. I also put on them 6-star artifacts with attack% and critical hit% primary stats. I am able to hit maximum 500k. Of course I am talking about 20 level of spider.
You're most likely focusing too much on atk%, you mainly want to put them in critical damage % gear as that's the only stat which scales with enemy maximum health. I find it weird that people go with the critical mastery on them because logically thinking, 25% more critical damage only means 2,5% of the target's maximum health, meanwhile a thing such as warmaster does 4% of a boss's max hp (10% against champions), which can even be triggered by other abilities than their hp based attack. Anyway, your CH probably ain't anywhere near his CH who got more than 300% critical damage.
Hey Chosen, can you do a video, with gear showcase for Spider 17? I am stuck there. I have auto order fine but my Royal Guards just dont hit hard enough. Wondering if there is something I am missing. And since 17 is Void, I am not sure who I can use to designate as the tank.
I have miscreated monster and rhazin. But no coldheart. I keep the battle going a long time until armiger or rhazin miss a turn meter reduction and the spider eats spiderlings and kills my team(she hits harder for each one she consumes). Any suggestions?
Do you mean the only hero of the ones he suggested is Apothecary, or is Apothecary the only hero you have on your account? No starter hero, no common or uncommons?
Every single video I see of Spider 20 either uses royal guards and coldhearts or a miscreated. I have 1 coldheart and I apparently can't keep anyone alive.
I'm on my day 52 of playing this game and I'm stuck in lvl 11 of Spider. I figured i just have to keep grinding and get my current champions stronger. I have only one Lego (Maulie) and she's not good for spider.
Maulie can be good for spider if she's tanky enough. Her provoke can force the spiderlings to attack her and spare the more fragile damage dealers or healers/buffers. If one does drop, she can res them.
Devs should just be brutally honest ,I have MM , 2 cold hearts , royal Gaurd etc ,,, BUT if you don’t have crazy speed on your cold hearts this fails every time ,,, finally quitting this game after blowing thousands of energy in the hopes of getting some decent speed gear , example spent 1500 energy in 1 night and only 1 speed item drops from level 20 and it’s crap , making all the way to the almost getting the Arbiter lego is such a constant kick in the nuts
doing it with the following team with ease MM-CH-Krisk-SC-Gala(Apo or Arbiter). for me the core is Krisk-SC to control spiderlings and CH for Heartseeker, MM is replacable in this team and the last spot is mostly to level champs
It would have been to see do it with the god like MM, instead of subbing out the Psylar....... those shields are what saves your team, the Rhazin would have been eaten alive without it.
Hey! We happen to currently have a couple spots for Ultra Boss hitters in our clan-system. If you do 20+ million to Ultra, add ChoseN#3140 on Discord and I'll find you a spot. Have a good day everyone!
I would like to.. I can do 16-17 mil a key on UNM with no life still gear. Running Rotos, Venus Valk Bad El and Tayrel. Im sure with life steal I could go over 20. (3.7m player power.)
Could you slot Zelotah instead of Miscreated Monster?
@@jeffsewell1942 In theory... I doubt it though unless you have another cross affinity tank doing counters with t6 mastery with AoE A1 an lifesteal. Miscreated monster's shield is based on his AoE damage whereas Zelotah's is based on his HP. I honestly don't think it will 1/8 as strong as Frank's shield. Basically if you don't have Frank your best bet is probably to get a counter cross affinity tank with coldheart and armiger. Zelotah would probably need someone else for sustain if not counter attacking and you can't have 3 spots in your comp just for support without speed, defense down and consistent meter drop
Alternative Spider 20 team that works for me 90% of the time on auto:
L- Lyssandra
Coldheart
Suzerain Katonn - Retribution tank (Or various other obtainable Spirit A1 aoe attackers)
Royal Guard
Rae - Retribution tank (Or various other obtainable A1 aoe attackers)
*High ACC, SPD, and Health on Lyssandra. High health to avoid being attack by spiderling even if/when Katonn / Coldheart die. ACC~250 to reduce spider's turn meter on A2. SPD-254 personally, although I've over killed this champion's speed myself for various uses, may not be as high of a requirement than HP/ACC.
*I use two tanks to eliminate bad luck in Retribution/leech set counter attack procs. With only one, I was only killing spider 20 about 1 out of 4 tries. I used Rae as I had her lvled, is strong vs spirit, and her freeze can be useful to reduce bad rng on counterattack, although it was a struggle to get her health so low to have spiderlings chunk out 25% health on each hit for Retribution to proc. I'd advise using another spirit or possibly a good DEF Force A1 aoe tank for this ideally... As when my Katonn sometimes dies, Spiderlings will take out my Coldheart next, although Royal Guard alone at this point is enough to finish her off, with Rae tanking
*Royal Guard and Coldheart is self-explanatory. Stack crit/crit damage, and some ACC on at least one of them to help with Lyssandra's turn reductions to never allow the boss to attack. Sorry if you dont have one or the other, best luck in summoning them to come! Although you could maybe use multiple Armiger's (uncommon) if you are struggling to spawn a decent Max enemy HP damager + turn reduct. 2 Max enemy HP damage dealers significantly decrease fight time, and reduces your odds of bad rng for your tanks not to proc a counter attack leech set heal.
i stopped watching when i saw he used miscreated monster
i know thats what i just wrote. Miscreated is not replacable.
@@IsaacSpeedyBeats Same, I don't have Monster and sick of all these comps that use him, need some other options here!
@@TheExel2000 i have 2 CH, 1 alure and a zephyr tank or sinesha tank, all of them still die after big spider aoe attack no miscreated and rg, its so hard
@@tpenoel88 It's so frustrating, I didn't even get cold heart or RG until recently either. I feel like I'm missing so many key champs that seem almost required for certain content. I don't have allure, skullcrusher, monster, Pain Keeper, Psylar, etc. Hell, i'm almost level 70 and I have yet to pull Marked for the Rhazin fusion. Luckily I actually pulled Rhazin directly from a shard but it's crazy that I still don't have her yet. I'd kill for a second ColdHeart. I will say i've managed to be able to auto stage 20 of all dungeons except Spider so there is that. **shrug**
@@TheExel2000 cry about it
+1 on the alternatives to M.Monster, what other good options do we have to keep Rhazin alive?
if you dont have monster, id recommend someone with aoe a1, lifesteal, and 200+ resist. Can try Nazana or Baroness stack up defense.
There are a few pretty easy options.
@@StewGamingTV Yeah I saw your vid on the a1 aoe with ca mastery and lifesteal set. A good option, I'm kind of hoping to not have to invest all of that time and resources in a very niche roll like that. But beggars can't be choosers :)
@@drawmaster77 Whenever I use baroness, she always wastes turns by using that veil buff or she uses her A1 over and over instead of her A3. I was wondering if I should even take her to 60. I'm early mid-game and she is at 50.
@@ahmedkazemi6223 seriously?
How about strats without miscreated monster. All the strats I see always include him if there not showing the royal guard coldheart strat. I havent been able to pull him to save my life and I'm stuck on the 17 mission.
same here bro. its not even possible with a solo coldheart. she needs ridiculous supporting cast and gear
Hey dude, to late but I complete the stage 17 with a skullcrusher instead of miscreated monster. My others champs are duchess (tank), coldhearth, Foli (decease defense) and Skullcrown (control little spiders)
Paragon Cheese build carried me from Spider 16 to Spider 20.
@@removefromme does Paragon still works in spider 20 auto?
@@Cashcash08
No. Paragon Cheese has to be done manually no matter what.
Thanks man!!! I have been stuck on Spider 18 for months, I used your comp and cracked 18-20, about to get my Arbiter! :)
I just started beating Spider 20. My team is Nethril, Stag Knight, Trunda, Miscreated Monster and Apothecary. Because Nethril is mostly defense in my build he serves as a cross affinity tank as they target him.
yes do the HP burn video and go into lots of detail on building the team
OMG... I FINALLY broke that Spider 19 barrier (using 3 coldhearts, Ignatius and Draco on manual) and am now currently getting the Spider 20 on auto done for the Arbiter quest. Been stuck for months... I beat it once already in about 3:30 using the team shown at 10:26. Thank you Chosen. for real
Husk works too if you have him, he has damage based on max hp plus stun on the same move.
Thanks Chosen! With your tips I was finally able to finish spider on lvl 14 in auto!! Finally getting on with missions again!
Hey I just wanted to say thanks a lot! I’ve been struggling to find a proper team, had a bunch of big leggo’s like rya and kymar they just didn’t fit.
After watching your video, i went from a 10m spider 20 (not successfully beaten on auto) to a 1.40 min auto run.
Just by using 1 cold heart, 1 royal guard rhazin miscreated monster and taryel
So thanks a lot! It’s really helped more than you know
Infernal baroness and nazana work great as well. As far as sustain goes, there aren't really any champs like mistreated monster. Warlord perhaps but I doubt people have him, you could put bellower or something with cc and stun set but those shields from MM are just insane. As far as damage goes, there aren't really any strats that don't include cold hearts or royal guard. Armiger is usable but then again, you need the good sustain for cross affinity tank and there aren't any as good as Frank. So pretty much the strat is to either use 3 dps with defense down champ or MM, warlord with either cold heart/armiger/royal guard. I'd love to see a comp that doesn't use more than 2 cold hearts without Miscreated Monster otherwise the whole strat is pretty much use MM to buy you time to do heart seekers
Husk is way better than armiger. The max hp damage is the same except royal guards adds his attack in there too but its the same
@@IsaacSpeedyBeats it's all about team comps. Husk is a weak affinity for spider 20 and doesn't hit quite as hard as an RG or a CH. People use armiger for tm control on spider/fk and when he does hit with his a2, it does do a decent chunk of dmg. Husk isn't used much because he is inferior to coldhearts and royal guards in dragon and in fire knight but then again, it's all about your team composition
I’m still stuck on stage 11 rip
I'm pretty new to the game and don't have any of the monsters that you mentioned. My only legendary is Wurlim right now and I'm hoping to get Cillian. I'm still waiting for my Dark Athel from the daily progression even.
Could you talk more about the specific buffs and debuffs that are needed and recommend some rares to use as temporary replacements until you get the better epics and legendaries?
really this seems to be, if you have Frank, you got it in the bag...
Yup...Spider20 strat that includes MM = insta dislike. You can see that even with his insane gear, Rhazin gets shredded when the shield isn't up. MM makes Spider easy-mode. If we had him, we wouldn't be looking for strategies on how to farm Spider20!
As someone who has Miscreated monster, I can assure you it’s not. It’s more like if you have the fucking gear then it’s easy. I’m stuck on spider 17 with an absolute god team. So trust me, you would still be here just like me. Lol. I have almost his exact same team and can’t get past 17. Gear is king
Thanks for the tip: "Filter" > "Include Vault"...never seen this button before
So i've been unable to beat spiders 19. Current team is
Duchess Lilithu - Revives me and blocks poison debuffs
Miscreated Monster - Shields like a boss
Apothecary - Speed and heals
Rhazin - Weaken+Debuff and turn meter dump
Coldheart - Nuker + Turn meter dump
So...... is it just a gear thing? Cause all these units are fully booked. Cant figure out whats wrong with my comp that i cant beat it.
I found this video very useful , I was doing like 8 minute runs on stage 20 as I was doing it manual . I use a team of Apothecary , Rhazin , Coldheart , Psylar and Scyl as I do not have MM yet . I can auto around 3 minutes now which should improve with better gear and great hall upgrades .
While the heroes are attainable one of the biggest problems people find trying to copy these is the fact they do not have anywhere near the Great Hall boosts you have.
Thanks Senor, you helped me beat 20! I had all the right pieces, I just wasn't putting them together right.
Do you think Zelotah could be a replacement for MM? Im not dure if theres actually another epic champ we could use that places good shields and its not forze affinity...
So happy I randomly got mm during Halloween. Just learning how great he is
My main problem is just getting to 20, there are no guides for 17-19 and the 20 builds don't work because of affinities.
If u have paragon u can use the paragon cheese stat to get beyond the level
Spider 20 is probably old news for most at this point. But I started playing the game late. This video helped me a lot with my approach on Spider 20 auto. I finally passed it and completed my quests and was able to collect my Arbiter! Final team ended up being: Rhazin (tank), Big 'Un w/stun set (crowd control), Miscreated Monster (assist), Coldheart & Septimus (nukage)--very similar to your video. Thanks!
What are some good alternatives to Miscreated Monster in this setup?
Zelotah
There is no alternative. Only Santa claus
I’m stuck here cleared it manually but not auto yet, using skart as tank in lifesteal (along with his crazy good dungeon aura) along with apoth tayrel nethril and experimenting with the last spot between rahzin foli and some others. I focused on defense and hp on my tank but didn’t consider resist maybe that is my problem.
if you have miscreated just use ultimate galek and any attack buff champ for hp burn. Galek was free from ultimate prime first week
Yo dude, the only thing you left out of the video you might want to consider putting in future videos, is how important the great hall is for your champions. A lot of people neglect the great hall.
seriously, we cant do numbers like yours chosen, because we don't have the great halls like you and the other youtubers. makes it really difficult
Thanks for the vid you’re a genius brother!!! Just ran the exact comp you had in the video using Rhazin as a target and it worked out! Thanks
Hi! I don't have psylar or royal guard. Which champion can I use instead? The speed decrease, and the does it necessarily has to be aoe or single debuff for boss is fine? Best that I have is lightsworn in this category. But I have cold heart, MM, apoth and soon for Razin
Great video and great advice, finally managed to clear Spider 20 after this :)
been chasing Frankenstein for awhile now. no psylar or RG either omg
good video, but lets be fair, your ch with 300+ cd is godly, I'd never see even half of these numbers :)
Can you do spiders 17-19? It may be harder than 20 because affinity.
is Hope a viable replacement for Miscreated Monster, now that she's been buffed? Is her Shield good enough to make her a good carry champion in Spider Den?
When you’ve spent 1K on the game and still don’t have a CH lol. RIP
I've been playing for a year and spent around the same and I don't have a CH either :'(
@@stealthxstream7623 I read comments under a video where a guy said he pulled 5 or 6 CHs and used them as food.
@@justinw4713 I have fed off more than that, for some reason raid likes to throw me CH's, bellowers and paragons and I have gotten well over 10 of each of those. I would like the game to give me new things.....
@@Jakecooks
That's amazing you can fully book multiple CHs without a single book.
just got her a couple of week ago, be patient
So basically you want to tell us that until we have this team "at some point in the game" we should not go for Spider right? Well this thing boosted my confidence as a beginner and put me more deep of thinking that how other content creators are having 4 to 5 star banner in their so called f2p (with extremely good-luck with having 2 epic, best rare what is not in many players luck) from spider without giving a proper guide or any proper idea about how to clear it, your video comes. Thanks buddy! I think this is reason why not many new players are coming to the game ( lack of proper guidance).
QUESTION FOR CHOFLY - Why get Royal Guard to 100% crit. I thought Royal Guard got a bonus +15% crit against Spider20 due to affinity...
Cuz I use him tons of other places not just Spider lol
Awesome video. Can you make one for levels 15 to 19?
I am currently on Spider 14. My team is Lyssandra, Psylar, Tayrel, Rhazin and Big'un. planning to drop big'un out once my Armiger is Ranked up or I get lucky and pull a Coldheart. My biggest issue is keeping my team alive, I just have to hope I can chain the turn meter decrease so nothing gets a turn. Happens about 50% of the time
Great vid!! I have most of the champions you mentioned. Hopefully I can peace a group together to beat 20. CC seems to be my issue. just pulled psylar and seer. Thnx
I have all of these (6:20) except misscreated monster. What is a good 2nd choice?
Thank you...this is great. I am able to beat 20 but need to develop speed and consistancy. This will help!!!!
Finally got through spiders 20 with High Khatun, Ghrush, Stag Knight, Martyr and Valkyrie. resistance on Martyr and Valkyrue was important. Ghrush ended up dying near the end. It was weird how Scyl wasn't required. the all spirit team also did spiders 19 on auto. Almost 10 minutes, but counter attack. Arena and great hall sucks. but I was able to get spiders 20. whoopie.
What would be other good options for the cross affinity tank? Epics and rares?
Chosen - what about weak affinity stage 19. that is harder than 20 imo.
hi. u can do stage 19 manual with paragon as tank ...use unkill buff and dont need to make him 60 ,just put some speed gear to aply buff
I think I saw someone say to manual combat stage 19, it IS harder but thankfully you dont need to auto it.
I'd still love to see a solve stage 19 guide
And use armiger
the thing i wanted to know is if there is any substitute for miscreated monster on keping your team alive, specially coldheart.
The only 'affordable' non-hp-burn non-legendary character that all the TH-cam influencers use in all the 'easy to get' spider 20 vids is Miscreated Monster. This video it's the same video that I saw on all the influencers... Nothing new, basically the same teams with MM. You should put his name in the description so I don't waste my time since nobody could figure out another team in 6 months. Sorry for taking my flame dear CM but this is so true!
Watching this I'm thinking now on a team: 2 Coldhearts, Royal Guard, Venus, Kymar. The shitty thing is, I'm really lucky with pulls (also, I recommend to everyone: forget about shard events, they are just for milking players. I pulled ALL my legos and best epics outside events), but my gear pretty much sucks. Therefore it is an awesome idea, to reset their skills and send the again. The question is: 1. Are the Coldhearts gonna use their A3 in this case, or they just go with the A2? Also the speed tune, like is that okay, if the Coldhearts are 200+ spd, the Royal Guard too, so they're gonna go twice before the spider and the spiderlings? Everything should be history after 2 Takedowns and 2 Heartseekers, right?
How can I dot it if I don't have coldheart or royal guard I do have rhazin, miscreated, apothecary, being playing since 8 month pull like 200 void shard over 2k ancient and no royal guard or coldheart stuck at spider 15....
hey chosen, i dont have miscreated monster, who do i use as a substitute which is equally good?
14:25 So you need accuracy for her nuke shot to do the extra dmg?
Now I have exactly the heroes used at 8:40 but my Razin dies after some time despite the super big shield from Miscreated Monster.
Hey chosen. Would you do a Romero build? I just pulled him. Need a healer. Thanks!
thx it work for me, unbelivebe that Apothecary make it when Duchess Lilitu and Siphi the Lost Bride wasnt able to, going to get my arbiter now
Can this work with Nazana? I would like to test it with ex. retribution mastery and atk gear but i guess it doesnt work. Or just stack her with defense. I havent had the time to invest in her yet shes only 5 star atm.
sup bro i need some serious help getting theough the midgame. im pretty much stuck. do you only help your friends or certain people-?
Try to come when I’m streaming. Obviously I can’t get to everyone all the time, there isn’t enough hours in the day but I try my best to help people who show up when I’m streaming.
@@ChosenPlaysYT dope man just hope everyone is safe now that this virus obviously has us all cooped up. Great content tho my dude kicked up like 3 more million on my lower tier CB which asbout double. stay safe meing
How do you make coldheart use a3 out of the gate? She wastes time with her a2. On manual I can easily beat spider20 in under a minute. Auto takes forever and loses 80% of the time bc of the ridiculously stupid AI
EXACTLY same problem here. Because Coldfart starts with A2, rather than A3, she dies most of the time. On manual, she lives most of the time.
If I had one blue shard for every time my CH blasted her Heartseeker straight into Fire Knight's shield when it says 10, I could summon a Venus, a Valk, and a Santa.
It would be an easy fix if they would just have the ai not do debuffs when the shield is up...oh wait that would actually make sense
will daze work in replacement of stun set?
CAN YOU HELP CHOFLY MY RHAZIN DEF IS 3251, CR IS 104, CD IS 142, ACCURACY IS 349, SPEED IS 193. BUT HE STILL IS A WEAK HITTER ON SPIDER 20 HE IS FULLY BOOKED TOO. WHAT IS THE REASON ???
no psylar, coldheart or royal guard :( no spider for me :( well i do have husk but he doesn't really help that much
What do you do when you have NO miscreated monster.... and he is not so easily attainable.
Please do a Septimus guide
Who can I use instead of coldheart, please?
I can auto the highest stage of every dungeon in this game, but haven't been able to clear stage 16 of Spiders, and it's the same affinity as the last stage. It's really frustrating and annoying.
i dont have any of those lol. is weaken or defence down better?
no kymar or dracomorph here, and only 2 RG
any replacement ?
This doesn’t work without miscreated monster and I can’t get him? So who’s his replacement
Is there any champion besides Ignacious that has aoe hp burn?
Tyrant Ixlimor (Demonspawn Legy), insane 100 % aoe, 3 turn hp burn. Cupidus (Sacred Order Legy, aoe hp burn for 2 turns with a 50% chance, unrestistable, but you have to kill a spiderling manually, since he has to kill something to procc, the effect. Those are the two i know
Ultimate Galek does, and he's free w/Prime. If you have him, you can do it. BUT, he needs to have an Increase Attack buff to do it well. So you'll need to find a champ with that buff to slot in. Someone like Gorgorab can do that and still fill the healer/rez role as well. I'll be maxing my Gorg to try this.
How about the same crew, but drop MM. Because it's really not a "strat" if it hinges on the best spider hero in the game..
How are you able to hit that huge damage by Coldhearts and Royal Guards? I have them on 60 level, fully ascended and mastered including Warmaster mastery. I also put on them 6-star artifacts with attack% and critical hit% primary stats. I am able to hit maximum 500k. Of course I am talking about 20 level of spider.
You're most likely focusing too much on atk%, you mainly want to put them in critical damage % gear as that's the only stat which scales with enemy maximum health. I find it weird that people go with the critical mastery on them because logically thinking, 25% more critical damage only means 2,5% of the target's maximum health, meanwhile a thing such as warmaster does 4% of a boss's max hp (10% against champions), which can even be triggered by other abilities than their hp based attack. Anyway, your CH probably ain't anywhere near his CH who got more than 300% critical damage.
Mines with Lyssandra on Psylar's... 80% chance to win :3 Thanx for the guide
Hey Chosen, can you do a video, with gear showcase for Spider 17? I am stuck there. I have auto order fine but my Royal Guards just dont hit hard enough. Wondering if there is something I am missing. And since 17 is Void, I am not sure who I can use to designate as the tank.
Hell Hades has a video, possibly two, of account takeovers where the player is stuck around Spider 15-17. Worth checking out. :)
@@suntiger745 Ok. Thanks
what can be taken instead of frank? i dont have him
I have miscreated monster and rhazin. But no coldheart. I keep the battle going a long time until armiger or rhazin miss a turn meter reduction and the spider eats spiderlings and kills my team(she hits harder for each one she consumes). Any suggestions?
More accuracy.
Possibly also a second Armiger.
I have a RG and planning to use Armiger as my second dps/tm reducer, because... no coldhearts.....
I dont know what im doing wrong, I have a maxed CH, Bad El, Ma'Shallad, Royal Guard and get destroyed when I get her down to 30%
Well, been playing a year and the only hero I have is Apothecary. Lol. Guess I’m screwed since this is considered attainable
Do you mean the only hero of the ones he suggested is Apothecary, or is Apothecary the only hero you have on your account? No starter hero, no common or uncommons?
Build 4 Armigers. :) Tons of speed on everyone. Don't let her take a turn.
Of the heroes he mentioned I only have apothecary obviously. I have plenty of other heroes.
No more Coldheart now. it is not available from Ancient Shard. I got more than 400 one but had nothing
Dude, I can't even get one Royal Guard and I've spent way too much money on this game LoL!
Would have been nice to see this with Armiger.
Great spider video
But can you beat spider 20 with 5 rare champs from 1 faction
did you show the total state of the royal guard, if so can someone time stamp it for me?
13:23
I have no problem with nightmare CB, all the other dungeon 20 but spider.... IM STUCK AT SPIDER 17
wow thank you very much Rhazin got me thru spider 20
If only I could get past 19! I've tried cheesing it with Paragon, but spider still goes, then babies aggro to the hurt champs. :(
It just sucks that I don’t have MM
Does the rozen gotta be booked
cool im just missing the most important hero, M Monster lolz.
Every single video I see of Spider 20 either uses royal guards and coldhearts or a miscreated. I have 1 coldheart and I apparently can't keep anyone alive.
@@akoursoumis ye same, i managed to do on auto but i have to kill the spider in 30 seconds xD but fails alot
I'm on my day 52 of playing this game and I'm stuck in lvl 11 of Spider. I figured i just have to keep grinding and get my current champions stronger. I have only one Lego (Maulie) and she's not good for spider.
decipher8121 same here I got 2 legendary and they both suck for spider
Maulie can be good for spider if she's tanky enough. Her provoke can force the spiderlings to attack her and spare the more fragile damage dealers or healers/buffers. If one does drop, she can res them.
Devs should just be brutally honest ,I have MM , 2 cold hearts , royal Gaurd etc ,,, BUT if you don’t have crazy speed on your cold hearts this fails every time ,,, finally quitting this game after blowing thousands of energy in the hopes of getting some decent speed gear , example spent 1500 energy in 1 night and only 1 speed item drops from level 20 and it’s crap , making all the way to the almost getting the Arbiter lego is such a constant kick in the nuts
tyral + Seer + royal guard + royal guard + prince kymar OR renegade = around 29 seconds
Some Questions
- Wts Infernal Baroness Spider Strat?
-Any Swap For MM? [can Valk do it?]
-Q:Armigers can Do Auto 20?
I have everyone on the first team besides mm and am struggling on low stages please help
14:23 312 Crit Damage - 'Good' crit damage. 0:24 'Pretty attainable teams'. Really?!?!?!?!? Common! That's ridiculously high crit damage.
doing it with the following team with ease
MM-CH-Krisk-SC-Gala(Apo or Arbiter).
for me the core is Krisk-SC to control spiderlings and CH for Heartseeker, MM is replacable in this team and the last spot is mostly to level champs
For epics, they're rubbish compared to MM, but Zelotah and Husk can do a relatively similar job to MM
It would have been to see do it with the god like MM, instead of subbing out the Psylar....... those shields are what saves your team, the Rhazin would have been eaten alive without it.
Is that razin full skill up?