Got mine, and its awesome. The note clarity and huge output make it unique among TS type pedals. As a high gain booster its not as tight as a TS or SD-1 but to my ear it creates some space between the notes and the fuzz, as well as blends in some interesting textures and harmonics for a more "3D" tone. It also changes the feel quite a bit, less sag and more punch maybe. Thanks for the demo!
Along the lines of the SD-1, the MXR Custom Badass Modified O.D. was recommended to me to fix the shortcomings of the SD-1. It retained more low end and has some other sonic options (mid bump, 100Hz control).
Lol...the same thing happen to me. I was missing bottom end with my sd-1 for many years. So i talked about it on a bunch of comment sections. It was recommended to me the MXR, by Kyle Bull, to fix my problem. Definitely has some low end adjustment to it. I love it. But still at 95% of where i needed to be. It was missing something, just didn't know what...lol. So someone recommended the Boss sd-1w. Waza Craft version..........um......HELL YEAH!!!!. problem solved. A boss sd-1 WITH bottom end and more gain on tap if you want it, and less noise, and made in Japan, not Taiwan.......done!!!🤣🤟🤟🤟🤟🍻🍻
I had an SD1 and i didn't like it through my JCM 900 at least for what I play, I like my Berhinger Vintage Tube Overdrive TO808. Recently i saw some videos of the Walrus Essential Drive and that's next on my list
The Plumes covers a bit more ground and personally I prefer it or the SD-1, but the Boss is classic, like Tim said, it's a familiar tone. Can't go wrong with either one, it's short money to add big tone.
Cool demo, and happy birthday! I think the SD-1 is tighter sounding - perfect for most driven JCM 800 2203's, or modded Plexis - but maybe a little too thin for the DSL20. So I guess the Plumes is better for more modern Marshalls, and the SD-1 for the older, "flubbier" Marshalls.
Well I never used pedals ever and I’ve been playing for 3-4 years. My father said boss heavy metal pedal(discontinued but still selling used) is the perfect pedal for that heavy distorted sound, they are just so expensive so I’m thinking about the boss d1 pedal for my Marshall avt50
I thought the Plumes in mode 3 was really similar to the Boss, but with just a little something extra. The other modes I think added some extra frequencys and didnt sound as tight, depending on the amp and type of music that could be a plus. I'm going to demo one next week, looking for something that I can use to tighten up a looser classic tone for busy single note riffage.
I use a basic mxr classic od when I want to give my dsl some grind but my favorite pedal for just giving any of my amps a shove is the CAE line driver. It doesn't color the tone of the amp, it just gives it teeth. But I see that fryette power station sitting in the back there, you should do a video about that. Those are a killer piece of gear that flies under the radar.
SD-1 all day. I wouldn't spend twice as much on a simple boost pedal just because it's got Earthquaker written on it and the option to select symmetrical clipping. I mean, if money is literally no object and you have a purpose for the various different clipping options then sure, but I don't.
both sound a little similar but the plums has a edge to it,for my style of playing i’d get the Boss,been using them for 35+ years now i guess i’m just a Boss pedal nerd lol currently have a Boss ST-2 as my overdrive/boost 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🎸🎶
Hell yeah brother!! Great video man. I love you playing. I dont know, it just has pleasing authority.. lol. Hey man, after being recommended a couple pedals from other TH-cam players to fix my issues,.... lack of bottom end from my many years with the sd-1, I was finally turned on to the sd-1w waza version. Damn bro, it is freaking awesome. Totally got some bottom end back with the SD fundamentals. Also more gain available with a little less noise. You should totally compare the Plumes with the waza sd-1w. I would definitely grab a bowl of popcorn for that one...lol🤣🤣🤟🤟🤟🍻🍻
Thanks a lot! Damn that waza version sounds killer! Might have to try that. Thats basically how I feel about the plumes. It's like the sd1 without the tone suck, actually adds additional lows. Might have to grab a used waza and make that comparison!
@@shredaintdead9323 thats true bro. Maybe you can find a used one. Its cool though. Has a switch in the middle. To the left is the sd-1 circuitry, to the right is the upgraded custom circuitry. More gain if you want. Yeah bro, try and find a used one, it would be an awesome comparison. 🤟✌️
I was looking at the JHS rat pack and I'm not the biggest fan of JHS pedals but it paired very well with marshall dslh 100 but that's just from my experience and different flavors for different people I love them all the same
The SD-1 has a little more bite,but the Plumes is great..it’s a little fuller sounding and definitely has some more thump….Can’t go wrong with either,but yeah,I think the Plumes edges it out…
The SD-1 is a classic, but man, I really love the Plumes. The tone control on the Plumes has a great range. I like using the Plumes with my Revv Generator 120 when I’m playing my main 7 string to cut off a little bit of the muddy low end, since that guitar’s pickups (DiMarzio PAF 7s) are pretty low output. I could swap them out for something more modern and tight to where I don’t need a boost for high gain tones, but the PAF 7s sound so great for clean and low gain stuff.
I like em both for different guitars going into my DSL100 But. I picked up a pedal on reverb from = Kartakou Amplification. It’s called Warmer, and that thing slays going into all my amp’s. mega pedal, budget price. 🤘
@Mitch.Engel84 I actually sold mine recently too and stuck with the sd1. It's also my favorite of all time. I stack it with the suhr koko mid boost for insanely good tones!
@@shredaintdead9323 I have been eyeing one for months. I was curious if it is worth it for small wattage amps. I love my DSL 20 as well plus I have a few Orange lunch box amps as well. They get pretty loud for home use.
@@spazeack absolutely worth it! Great for attenuation for playing at home, but it's so so much more. Honestly the most useful piece of gear ever. Ultimate tool for Playing at home, recording or live.
Honestly, not watching to see which pedal is on at what time and only listening revealed how very little the differences are in any meaningful capacity between the two. The minor differences would be significantly masked in a full mix from what I am hearing. Maybe the differences can be heard in the room but online it is not apparent enough in a blind test to where I would feel any need to get a Plumes. Even the SD1 is kinda beyond its value at this point considering you can get a TS9 clone for like $15-20 all day long and it "does the thing" just fine.
You are neither wrong OR right. It all depends on which tone your brain (soul) likes the most. I'm all about the Boss SD-1. I didn't choose the tone. It chose me.
Happy Birthday, chi-master! I think the Plumes has a much broader tone, more full range and high-def, less fizzy and scooped, but the classic sound of the SD-1 is just so immediately familiar. Maybe it’s just Stockholm syndrome from years of assuming that is what things were supposed to sound like?
I think the Plumes has slight more treble frequencies to add than the Boss. They're very similar though. The only factor in choosing one or the other is your starting rig and the features it has. By the way, nice touch putting some Megadeth riffs here and there!
I own both. SD-1 is tighter and pushes the high mids and is better as a tone-shaper IMO. The Plumes is more full-range despite being marketed as a TS-style pedal i.e. it doesn't shave off bass as severely or add as much mids, but it adds a ton of treble and noise which isn't optimal for what you're doing in this video. The SD-1 has the edge for tight, chugging riffs. Plumes would be better for doom-oriented styles where fuzz pedals through high-headroom amps are the norm.
For me, the difference is pretty subtle. To be fair, being in the room probably does the difference WAY more justice. With the disclaimer out of the way, in my current stage of beginner status, I prefer simplicity and budget over a slight adjustability advantage and double the price. Adjustability only frustrates me. Last, a subtle tone difference doesn't justify double the price. Therefore, BOSS SD-1 for the win.
@@shredaintdead9323 When you did the in-person demo of all of my pedals via the BBE Sonic Stomp, the Ethereal Reverb/Delay, and the BOSS SD-1, it was way more impactful. For me, it's more of a budget thing because I'm not an avid guitarist (yet), but I'm sure the Plumes shines more in-person just as all of these pedals do. An iPad and a MacBook can only emulate the second-hand sounds being mic'd so much. Everyone should demo gear they're thinking of buying in-person; it's night-and-day.
@@jimbodavis1944 absolutely! The plumes is crazy good. In person you'd definitely be super impressed. It's a great pedal to look at eventually. Lots of different tones and versatility.
I bought one, it’s a noisy pedal man. I also own the Behringer TO800 which I bought for $15 and got similar results from it. The tone knob for the Plumes goes higher but it easily gets too harsh after you go past 12 a clock. I didn’t want to believe it but the Behringer sounds almost the same but somehow a little more chuggier, makes less noise and the price is $70 cheaper than the plumes. I’m thinking about returning it but I’m going to try it on a different amp. If it’s not good on my 5150 then I’ll return it and get a different overdrive. The Plumes also makes a huge popping sound when it’s turned on.
@@shredaintdead9323 I’m using a noise gate I had to use two of them, I don’t have one with an fx loop. I just figured it out though, I changed the mode to number 3 the TS mode. It sounds a lot like the Behringer. Although, the Behringer still sounds slightly better and it’s just not me that thinks that. I’m just not some guy who thinks I spent more money on this pedal so I have to think it’s awesome. Go look up a video on the Behringer overdrive, where it gets compared to a tube screamer. Definitely ain’t trash it’s just the plastic casing.
Hey guys! Forgot to mention both pedals were dialed in exactly the same! Volume at noon, gain at 9 o'clock and tone at 1 o clock
Happy birthday glad to see you back!Hell I liked both of them I will have to watch it again to make a concrete decision lol 🤟🏻Rock on
Thanks dude! Yeah honestly both are great!
Happy Birthday Brother! Plumes sounds killer I love mine! Not sure but SD-1 feels tighter though IMO.
Thanks dude! Yeah both are great honestly
You had me at Plumes....
Got mine, and its awesome. The note clarity and huge output make it unique among TS type pedals. As a high gain booster its not as tight as a TS or SD-1 but to my ear it creates some space between the notes and the fuzz, as well as blends in some interesting textures and harmonics for a more "3D" tone. It also changes the feel quite a bit, less sag and more punch maybe. Thanks for the demo!
Awesome! You're welcome! Glad you're loving it!
Both sound great. The Plumes has a slight edge here for me due to versatility.
Definitely 3 pedals in one. Crazy versatile
Along the lines of the SD-1, the MXR Custom Badass Modified O.D. was recommended to me to fix the shortcomings of the SD-1. It retained more low end and has some other sonic options (mid bump, 100Hz control).
I'll definitely grab one of those at some point!
Yep the mxr od is pretty badass.
Lol...the same thing happen to me. I was missing bottom end with my sd-1 for many years. So i talked about it on a bunch of comment sections. It was recommended to me the MXR, by Kyle Bull, to fix my problem. Definitely has some low end adjustment to it. I love it. But still at 95% of where i needed to be. It was missing something, just didn't know what...lol. So someone recommended the Boss sd-1w. Waza Craft version..........um......HELL YEAH!!!!. problem solved. A boss sd-1 WITH bottom end and more gain on tap if you want it, and less noise, and made in Japan, not Taiwan.......done!!!🤣🤟🤟🤟🤟🍻🍻
Boss SD1 and never looked back in 25 years of playing it!
I had an SD1 and i didn't like it through my JCM 900 at least for what I play, I like my Berhinger Vintage Tube Overdrive TO808. Recently i saw some videos of the Walrus Essential Drive and that's next on my list
The Plumes covers a bit more ground and personally I prefer it or the SD-1, but the Boss is classic, like Tim said, it's a familiar tone. Can't go wrong with either one, it's short money to add big tone.
Totally agree buddy!
Cool demo, and happy birthday! I think the SD-1 is tighter sounding - perfect for most driven JCM 800 2203's, or modded Plexis - but maybe a little too thin for the DSL20. So I guess the Plumes is better for more modern Marshalls, and the SD-1 for the older, "flubbier" Marshalls.
Thanks! I absolutely agree 👍
The sd-1 has a "meaner", rebel feel I can't explain, and it cuts through so much better. Best cheap pedal ever.
I definitely agree 👍
Well I never used pedals ever and I’ve been playing for 3-4 years. My father said boss heavy metal pedal(discontinued but still selling used) is the perfect pedal for that heavy distorted sound, they are just so expensive so I’m thinking about the boss d1 pedal for my Marshall avt50
Great video, I need to send you my version of the plumes.
Thanks and that would be awesome!
I thought the Plumes in mode 3 was really similar to the Boss, but with just a little something extra. The other modes I think added some extra frequencys and didnt sound as tight, depending on the amp and type of music that could be a plus. I'm going to demo one next week, looking for something that I can use to tighten up a looser classic tone for busy single note riffage.
Definitely just a bit something extra with the plumes
The plumes sounded more wet thus richer (modern), the sd1 is a dry sounding classic overdrive
I use a basic mxr classic od when I want to give my dsl some grind but my favorite pedal for just giving any of my amps a shove is the CAE line driver. It doesn't color the tone of the amp, it just gives it teeth. But I see that fryette power station sitting in the back there, you should do a video about that. Those are a killer piece of gear that flies under the radar.
I actually already filmed a video on the powerstation. Just have to get it edited! I'll have it out soon
Actually… I’m surprised the Plumes sounds so good! I have an SD1 and I’m in love with it but now… I’m pretty sure I want to try the Plumes.
Dude the plumes is insanely great! 3 pedals in one for $99. Can't beat it!!! So versatile and awesome!
@@shredaintdead9323 Nice price too with today’s prices 🤘 Great video but the SD1 will put hair on your chest!
@@johnsguitarmusicanddemos can confirm it does put Hair on your chest!
Great video both sound Great!!!
Thanks and totally agree!
SD-1 all day. I wouldn't spend twice as much on a simple boost pedal just because it's got Earthquaker written on it and the option to select symmetrical clipping. I mean, if money is literally no object and you have a purpose for the various different clipping options then sure, but I don't.
The plumes has the edge... also with the other modes as a bonus
Absolutely! Mudkiller video coming next buddy
both sound a little similar but the plums has a edge to it,for my style of playing i’d get the Boss,been using them for 35+ years now i guess i’m just a Boss pedal nerd lol currently have a Boss ST-2 as my overdrive/boost 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🎸🎶
Definitely similar but the plumes is fuller and more versatile, the boss is tighter
@@shredaintdead9323 totally agree,the Boss fits my style a little better for me,been using Boss pedals since i was 14 so why stop now lol
Hell yeah brother!! Great video man. I love you playing. I dont know, it just has pleasing authority.. lol. Hey man, after being recommended a couple pedals from other TH-cam players to fix my issues,.... lack of bottom end from my many years with the sd-1, I was finally turned on to the sd-1w waza version. Damn bro, it is freaking awesome. Totally got some bottom end back with the SD fundamentals. Also more gain available with a little less noise. You should totally compare the Plumes with the waza sd-1w. I would definitely grab a bowl of popcorn for that one...lol🤣🤣🤟🤟🤟🍻🍻
Thanks a lot! Damn that waza version sounds killer! Might have to try that. Thats basically how I feel about the plumes. It's like the sd1 without the tone suck, actually adds additional lows. Might have to grab a used waza and make that comparison!
@@shredaintdead9323 that would be awesome. Should look up the specs. Built a little better in Japan 👍Im waiting.......🤣👍🤟
@@rickfennell7849 haha yeah but $100 more because of that lol
@@shredaintdead9323 thats true bro. Maybe you can find a used one. Its cool though. Has a switch in the middle. To the left is the sd-1 circuitry, to the right is the upgraded custom circuitry. More gain if you want. Yeah bro, try and find a used one, it would be an awesome comparison. 🤟✌️
I was looking at the JHS rat pack and I'm not the biggest fan of JHS pedals but it paired very well with marshall dslh 100 but that's just from my experience and different flavors for different people I love them all the same
Jhs makes some killer stuff too. I did a video recently on his new $100 dual mode screamer pedal.
The SD-1 has a little more bite,but the Plumes is great..it’s a little fuller sounding and definitely has some more thump….Can’t go wrong with either,but yeah,I think the Plumes edges it out…
The SD-1 is a classic, but man, I really love the Plumes. The tone control on the Plumes has a great range. I like using the Plumes with my Revv Generator 120 when I’m playing my main 7 string to cut off a little bit of the muddy low end, since that guitar’s pickups (DiMarzio PAF 7s) are pretty low output. I could swap them out for something more modern and tight to where I don’t need a boost for high gain tones, but the PAF 7s sound so great for clean and low gain stuff.
Right? Sd1 is great, but the plumes is just so versatile and awesome
plumes easily has the edge., considering the sd1 is a staple on my board lol
happy birthday brother!!!!!
Thanks dude!!!
I like em both for different guitars going into my DSL100
But. I picked up a pedal on reverb from = Kartakou Amplification. It’s called Warmer, and that thing slays going into all my amp’s. mega pedal, budget price. 🤘
Same here and dude sweet! Kartakou rules and I've been super curious about that pedal!
Nice upload bro .but what was the marshall amp???
Thanks! The dsl20!
I've owned the Plumes twice now. Sold it both times. I just don't get along with the thing. The SD-1, on the other hand, is my favorite boost ever.
@Mitch.Engel84 I actually sold mine recently too and stuck with the sd1. It's also my favorite of all time. I stack it with the suhr koko mid boost for insanely good tones!
How do like the fryette unit? Where you running it with the dsl20?
Love it! Yes I was. I have a video coming put soon on it as well. It's absolutely killer!
@@shredaintdead9323 I have been eyeing one for months. I was curious if it is worth it for small wattage amps. I love my DSL 20 as well plus I have a few Orange lunch box amps as well. They get pretty loud for home use.
@@spazeack absolutely worth it! Great for attenuation for playing at home, but it's so so much more. Honestly the most useful piece of gear ever. Ultimate tool for Playing at home, recording or live.
@@shredaintdead9323 I just wish it had a headphone jack!
@@spazeack it's probably the ONLY thing it doesn't have lol. You could probably use the line out on it with headphones 🎧 though?
Honestly, not watching to see which pedal is on at what time and only listening revealed how very little the differences are in any meaningful capacity between the two. The minor differences would be significantly masked in a full mix from what I am hearing. Maybe the differences can be heard in the room but online it is not apparent enough in a blind test to where I would feel any need to get a Plumes. Even the SD1 is kinda beyond its value at this point considering you can get a TS9 clone for like $15-20 all day long and it "does the thing" just fine.
You are neither wrong OR right. It all depends on which tone your brain (soul) likes the most. I'm all about the Boss SD-1. I didn't choose the tone. It chose me.
Happy Birthday, chi-master! I think the Plumes has a much broader tone, more full range and high-def, less fizzy and scooped, but the classic sound of the SD-1 is just so immediately familiar. Maybe it’s just Stockholm syndrome from years of assuming that is what things were supposed to sound like?
Haha thanks! Yeah my thoughts exactly 💯
I still like my sd-1
I still like your sd1 too
The Palisades is like turning a clean amp into a 3 channel amp.
I think the Plumes has slight more treble frequencies to add than the Boss. They're very similar though. The only factor in choosing one or the other is your starting rig and the features it has.
By the way, nice touch putting some Megadeth riffs here and there!
I agree and thanks dude!
@@shredaintdead9323 Don't mention it! ✌🏻
I own both. SD-1 is tighter and pushes the high mids and is better as a tone-shaper IMO. The Plumes is more full-range despite being marketed as a TS-style pedal i.e. it doesn't shave off bass as severely or add as much mids, but it adds a ton of treble and noise which isn't optimal for what you're doing in this video. The SD-1 has the edge for tight, chugging riffs. Plumes would be better for doom-oriented styles where fuzz pedals through high-headroom amps are the norm.
Sweet demo! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Thanks John #2
For me, the difference is pretty subtle. To be fair, being in the room probably does the difference WAY more justice. With the disclaimer out of the way, in my current stage of beginner status, I prefer simplicity and budget over a slight adjustability advantage and double the price. Adjustability only frustrates me. Last, a subtle tone difference doesn't justify double the price. Therefore, BOSS SD-1 for the win.
Definitely subtle on the video but way more apparent in the room. Sd1 is great, plumes is just more options and versatility
@@shredaintdead9323 When you did the in-person demo of all of my pedals via the BBE Sonic Stomp, the Ethereal Reverb/Delay, and the BOSS SD-1, it was way more impactful. For me, it's more of a budget thing because I'm not an avid guitarist (yet), but I'm sure the Plumes shines more in-person just as all of these pedals do. An iPad and a MacBook can only emulate the second-hand sounds being mic'd so much. Everyone should demo gear they're thinking of buying in-person; it's night-and-day.
@@jimbodavis1944 absolutely! The plumes is crazy good. In person you'd definitely be super impressed. It's a great pedal to look at eventually. Lots of different tones and versatility.
The SD-1 is a great pedal. Find them for less than $100 used and rejoice.
Sd1 is tighter and adds less noise to your signal
Definitely tighter
YEs the Sd1 is still more creamy i still prefer it !
If only someone made something that did Both sounds….
Seen 30 seconds...there's a million different ones, i got mine ;)
Which one?
Are you “ the dooo” davie 504 wants to battle you!
I have no idea what that means haha
I bought one, it’s a noisy pedal man. I also own the Behringer TO800 which I bought for $15 and got similar results from it. The tone knob for the Plumes goes higher but it easily gets too harsh after you go past 12 a clock. I didn’t want to believe it but the Behringer sounds almost the same but somehow a little more chuggier, makes less noise and the price is $70 cheaper than the plumes. I’m thinking about returning it but I’m going to try it on a different amp. If it’s not good on my 5150 then I’ll return it and get a different overdrive. The Plumes also makes a huge popping sound when it’s turned on.
I have none of those issues and those behringer pedals are trash in my experience. Simply use a noisgate and problem solved
@@shredaintdead9323 I’m using a noise gate I had to use two of them, I don’t have one with an fx loop. I just figured it out though, I changed the mode to number 3 the TS mode. It sounds a lot like the Behringer. Although, the Behringer still sounds slightly better and it’s just not me that thinks that. I’m just not some guy who thinks I spent more money on this pedal so I have to think it’s awesome. Go look up a video on the Behringer overdrive, where it gets compared to a tube screamer. Definitely ain’t trash it’s just the plastic casing.
it isn't hear anything at this type of music. it isn't any difference
Rock and metal? There is a difference but it's pretty subtle
First! 😂