I had an AP1 and now I have an AP2, and it's easier to live with around town but still a ton of fun. If I could have 1 for track days (which I no longer do) and 1 for a daily driver, it'd definitely be an AP1 for the track and an AP2 for the daily.
Just get an AP2 and change the markings on the Tach so that 8,000 now reads 9,000 RPM. That will get you the oh-so-cool 9,000 RPM reading with the same HP and more low end torque.
AP1: Indy Yellow Pearl AP2: New Indy Yellow Pearl Which S2000 should you buy? I think Japonic did it right by not careing about colour or AP1/AP2. What is really important is the condition of the car and how well it was looked after. It is not a bad idea to inform yourself about the model years and technical changes. I also think it might be worth thinking about a Spoon reinforcement gusset plate. Have fun with these top engineered pieces of art and enjoy them on the road!
Generally speaking, here in the States a buyer almost always gets more car for their money with an AP1 as all things being equal (mileage/condition/color), they sell for many thousands less than the AP2 cars do. The yellow on Japonic's S2000 is one of the most attractive shades of yellow ever made. Please pass my compliments along to him. By the way, what's up with TH-cam inserting a mind-numbing amount of commercials in your video?
AP1 drive by wire, 9krpm, cluster, AP2 retainers, gearbox, diff, lights, seats, trims, banjo bolts, stiffer rear subframe as they say 'The AP2 is the better car, The AP1 is the better S2000."
So crazy bc IMO Ap2 Rio looks better in person bc its darker n has pearl, but Albo's Looks better in this. Plus the ap1 bumper with lip, splitter and clear headlights make the car look so much better. I wanted Rio but didnt want the attention after having Berlina. Now im kinda wanting a yellow one!
Just got a 2002 S2000 in yellow tonight! Has ap2 front and rear bumpers, carbon hood, hard top, enkei rpf1 wheels, Truhart coils, and a few other goodies I'm stoked
@@zzaaiidd. actually ended up selling it at a decent profit recently but it was an amazing car man. Always good to me. I'd recommend buying one to anyone who's in the market for sure!
Nice comparison. S2K is the best for driving everywhere. It’s always fun even at normal speeds. I never thought I’d like the yellows as much as I do now.
*The ap2 is the better car, but the ap1 is the better s2000.* The ap1 is what Honda intended the s2000 to be -- a raw sportscar. The ap2 just went too soft and refined which makes it a better overall car. I picked an ap1 for this reason - a raw no mercy 9000 rpm weakened warrior.
@@z32luvr State side, the value isn't higher. That used to be the case. Low mileage ap1 now are going for the same price if not more than ap2. The reason higher mileage s2k go for more than an ap1 is because most higher mileage ap1 are now clapped out. Also, they made and sold more ap1 than ap2 from 00-03 - supply and demand. The ap1 is not inferior to the ap2. The ap2 is slightly the better car, yes... but only because it's softer and more friendly to drive for an amateur than the ap1. They fixed the suspension geometry in the back to prevent snap oversteer amateur drivers don't know how to handle. That is the only major revision. Put wider tires on the ap1 like the ap2 and you're good to go. As for interior, the ap2 takes it bad none. As the years go by, you will see low mileage or un-abused ap1 take over in terms of prices. Everyone wants the 9k rpm redline. www.mecum.com/lots/FL0121-444147/2000-honda-s2000-convertible/
@@sixstrz8310 as for price, not any more. Great condition low mileage ap1 command about the same price as the ap2 in the US. Everyone is now starting to appreciate the f20 and 9k redline over the f22.
@@sdlausen1 even though the higher redline is nice the extra tq you get from the 2.2 liter still makes it better doesn’t consume oil out the ass the f20s are practically like vqs when it comes to oil consumption my buddy literally picked up an ap1 I got to drive it back fro him about 6 hours the only part that makes actual sense to give the ap1 over the ap2 is the better steering response I ain’t even going to say better throttle response since the 04-05 ap2 came with the same throttle cable he also picked up the ap1 with less miles and less money then an ap2 he was looking it there a reason ap2s are always going to be higher priced lol
I love your lifestyle, the Jdm Bros and Japan. In some time I want to travel to Japan and check out how the life is in the land of the rising sun. If it feels right I want to move to Japan and learn japanese.
I like the AP1 because of the 9k rev limit but the AP2 is a better car with better looks, handling, engine, and even the 8k rev limit is still engaging and addicting
Got an 04 in April for 14 with under 150k miles. Interior looks almost identical to the AP2 in the vid. Bone stock never modified. It’s possible, just have to be willing to wait for the right one and jump on it. Prices only going up tho no doubt about that.
I opted for an AP2 although I had put a deposit on an AP1. I like them both but the 2004 had fewer kilometers on it than the 2003 and it was less expensive.
I own a 2002 AP1 and I love it more compare to the AP2. AP1 has that raw feeling compare to AP2. My AP1 is fully stripped out and so is my buddy's 07 AP2 (we both track) but for some reason I enjoy my AP1 more becuase of how raw it is compare to AP2. Plus that 9k rpm cant beat that unless youre in the UK where some AP2 comes 9k rpm they did it right. SO in conclusion it's all preference... its still a S2000 that everyone (or most) wants and admire. Love the yellow!
with my ap2 I feel that there's slight cowl shake at 65mph with the top down which really annoyed me, when driving with an oem hardtop the chassis feels more solid and totally eliminates any shakes at all, this is just my experience but other s2000 owners feel free to chime in
It’s called Scuttle shake, very common for convertibles. I didn’t know the AP had that issue considering they’re more stiff than a normal convertible vehicle
@@IntegraDIY yep I came from a NA miata with notorious shake maybe Albo can speak further about that since he had one, the AP2 is a very stiff chassis but nonetheless not as solid without the hardtop
Imo, the AP1 is the funner car but the AP2 is a lot more refined. Can’t beat shifting at 9k tho, just watch out for those valve retainers and the glass diff
Japonik is a Recaro Pole Position type of guy 😁 ....it's true, the s2000 is such an enjoyable car to drive (especially modded), that I have no doubt it's more pleasurable and engaging to drive, than a gtr or supra.
In the UK all cars (AP1/2 - here, known as pre facelift/facelift) have the F20C 2.0 engine. I have two. An “AP2” to mod the hell out of, and an AP1 that is kept pristine and standard. Why? Because the AP1 is the original. And with prices of these rising and rising, if held on to, it’s the AP1’s in my opinion that will be worth the most money in the future. They’re the icon. They are the original after all.
Got an ap1 full road legal track car think at some point I'll take out the full cage and bucket seats put interior back to original and raise suspension up a bit make it more useable
Hey man, actually I strive to be a good friend and anyone who actually knows me in person knows that. So I’m not sure how you got that impression, but maybe my light hearted teasing sometimes in some videos comes across as mean to some people? I only joke around with people who are really my friends though. Could you give me an example of what you are talking about with “back handed comments as per normal”? Thanks, I appreciate the constructive feedback!
I think a ap2 is a api1 wanna b I rather have the original one budget is not a problem get the real thing and enjoy it there is nothing after a ap1 in the long run its going to be worth much more then any ap2
Albo you make me laugh so much haha! Got straight into the AP2 and said "stock seats" haha! Also, I love how you driven off in the AP2 and left the roof down on the AP1. I think Japan is amazing for that. Bananas Apples Pears And Oranges
You know, I'd be tempted to buy a salvage auction s2000 with a missing or blown engine.... ..... aaaaaaaaaaand drop in a dirty dirty vag 1.9tdi to make everyone reeee when I roll coal at the cars and coffee
@@ducdu4136 just keep saving im hoping to get one too i hope my friend that runs indotech races them and miata hope they dont get more expensive soon 😭
I had an AP1 and now I have an AP2, and it's easier to live with around town but still a ton of fun. If I could have 1 for track days (which I no longer do) and 1 for a daily driver, it'd definitely be an AP1 for the track and an AP2 for the daily.
“When does vtec kick in?”
“I don’t know, never tried it!”
Says no Honda S2000 owner ever!
thank you.
Doesn't kick In till 6k rpms
I drive a AP1 facelift here in Europe. Best of both worlds. 9000 rpm with the upgraded lights, bumpers and interior 😁
Just get an AP2 and change the markings on the Tach so that 8,000 now reads 9,000 RPM. That will get you the oh-so-cool 9,000 RPM reading with the same HP and more low end torque.
@@joelginvestments6599 how can it be changed?
AP1: Indy Yellow Pearl
AP2: New Indy Yellow Pearl
Which S2000 should you buy? I think Japonic did it right by not careing about colour or AP1/AP2. What is really important is the condition of the car and how well it was looked after. It is not a bad idea to inform yourself about the model years and technical changes. I also think it might be worth thinking about a Spoon reinforcement gusset plate. Have fun with these top engineered pieces of art and enjoy them on the road!
AP1 is Spa Yellow
AP2 is Rio.....nice pearl in it.
japonic brought me here, keep it up albo!
Damn, Japonic got another car 😆
Generally speaking, here in the States a buyer almost always gets more car for their money with an AP1 as all things being equal (mileage/condition/color), they sell for many thousands less than the AP2 cars do. The yellow on Japonic's S2000 is one of the most attractive shades of yellow ever made. Please pass my compliments along to him. By the way, what's up with TH-cam inserting a mind-numbing amount of commercials in your video?
Holy hell glad I’m not the only one getting these commercials Jesus fck it’s annoying lol
S2k prices here in the u.s are really scuffed. It’s insane how a Honda from 2005 can reach $25,000 USD.
There are less and less clean honda s2000s every year. They aren't making more of these cars and the demand for them is still there
And now 2005 S2000s go for up to $40k with low miles
Try older ones for even more money.
@Evan Todd as cars become more numb, these older cars will be more sought after
@malcolmn.5222 right. Trying to decide if a local 01' for $15k and 98k miles is a good deal.
Turkce alt yazi istiyoruz alboo japonic kanalindan geldik .
yapmicaklar ingilizceniz gelissin dedi
@@ewirbusiness abo senin ne işin var burada be :D
Ap1 is so much more fun. Revving to 9k is just a wonderful feeling
I personally like the AP2 colour in this video
AP1 drive by wire, 9krpm, cluster,
AP2 retainers, gearbox, diff, lights, seats, trims, banjo bolts, stiffer rear subframe
as they say 'The AP2 is the better car, The AP1 is the better S2000."
...wait till you hear about the European AP2 🤐
Never going to trade my 2004 EU AP2 for anything 🥰
I’ll take the better car then.
So crazy bc IMO Ap2 Rio looks better in person bc its darker n has pearl, but Albo's Looks better in this. Plus the ap1 bumper with lip, splitter and clear headlights make the car look so much better. I wanted Rio but didnt want the attention after having Berlina. Now im kinda wanting a yellow one!
I admire this car's engine I can drink a whole pot of tea everyday by looking it. I think I can't help to stop hearing its voice if I had one.
I had a chance to buy a low mileage AP1 a while back but decided to pay more for the AP2 just due to the stock upgrades that they have.
I've owned both and seriously you can't go wrong with either. Just buy one!
Just got a 2002 S2000 in yellow tonight! Has ap2 front and rear bumpers, carbon hood, hard top, enkei rpf1 wheels, Truhart coils, and a few other goodies I'm stoked
how is it treating you?
@@zzaaiidd. actually ended up selling it at a decent profit recently but it was an amazing car man. Always good to me. I'd recommend buying one to anyone who's in the market for sure!
@@jdm603jake dope!
I personally like the ap1 just because of the 9k rpm
I really want to build an s2000 next! Great video on the ap1 vs the ap2. I've been debating which one too
Did you get one I’ve owned both I’m curious what you got
Nice comparison. S2K is the best for driving everywhere. It’s always fun even at normal speeds. I never thought I’d like the yellows as much as I do now.
There is nothing more I want than to go back to Japan and hang out with you.
Always preferred the APT2, love his front bumper with the duct though!
I have a ap1. And I love it! It performs really well. Only wish why I want a ap2 is just of the interior. I love the ap1 exterior.
I think it does not change so much as to want the ap2
*The ap2 is the better car, but the ap1 is the better s2000.*
The ap1 is what Honda intended the s2000 to be -- a raw sportscar. The ap2 just went too soft and refined which makes it a better overall car. I picked an ap1 for this reason - a raw no mercy 9000 rpm weakened warrior.
AP1 is inferior to the AP2. They fixed all the issues with the AP2 and that’s why their value is so much better.
@@z32luvr State side, the value isn't higher. That used to be the case. Low mileage ap1 now are going for the same price if not more than ap2. The reason higher mileage s2k go for more than an ap1 is because most higher mileage ap1 are now clapped out. Also, they made and sold more ap1 than ap2 from 00-03 - supply and demand.
The ap1 is not inferior to the ap2. The ap2 is slightly the better car, yes... but only because it's softer and more friendly to drive for an amateur than the ap1. They fixed the suspension geometry in the back to prevent snap oversteer amateur drivers don't know how to handle. That is the only major revision. Put wider tires on the ap1 like the ap2 and you're good to go. As for interior, the ap2 takes it bad none.
As the years go by, you will see low mileage or un-abused ap1 take over in terms of prices. Everyone wants the 9k rpm redline.
www.mecum.com/lots/FL0121-444147/2000-honda-s2000-convertible/
@@sdlausen1ap2s are still higher in price better transmission
@@sixstrz8310 as for price, not any more. Great condition low mileage ap1 command about the same price as the ap2 in the US. Everyone is now starting to appreciate the f20 and 9k redline over the f22.
@@sdlausen1 even though the higher redline is nice the extra tq you get from the 2.2 liter still makes it better doesn’t consume oil out the ass the f20s are practically like vqs when it comes to oil consumption my buddy literally picked up an ap1 I got to drive it back fro him about 6 hours the only part that makes actual sense to give the ap1 over the ap2 is the better steering response I ain’t even going to say better throttle response since the 04-05 ap2 came with the same throttle cable he also picked up the ap1 with less miles and less money then an ap2 he was looking it there a reason ap2s are always going to be higher priced lol
I love your lifestyle, the Jdm Bros and Japan. In some time I want to travel to Japan and check out how the life is in the land of the rising sun. If it feels right I want to move to Japan and learn japanese.
I'm very happy. You released a new video. I was already afraid that something had happened to you 😔 So thank you all who are watching you 😌
I like the AP1 because of the 9k rev limit but the AP2 is a better car with better looks, handling, engine, and even the 8k rev limit is still engaging and addicting
Read up on the EU AP2 and JDM AP2, you are in for a treat 😊
AP2>AP1
Got an 04 in April for 14 with under 150k miles. Interior looks almost identical to the AP2 in the vid. Bone stock never modified. It’s possible, just have to be willing to wait for the right one and jump on it. Prices only going up tho no doubt about that.
I opted for an AP2 although I had put a deposit on an AP1. I like them both but the 2004 had fewer kilometers on it than the 2003 and it was less expensive.
AP1 son for those higher revs! Love the channel!
8:59 albo’s finger. It’s a magic ⚡️👈🏻
I own a 2002 AP1 and I love it more compare to the AP2. AP1 has that raw feeling compare to AP2. My AP1 is fully stripped out and so is my buddy's 07 AP2 (we both track) but for some reason I enjoy my AP1 more becuase of how raw it is compare to AP2. Plus that 9k rpm cant beat that unless youre in the UK where some AP2 comes 9k rpm they did it right. SO in conclusion it's all preference... its still a S2000 that everyone (or most) wants and admire. Love the yellow!
I have the AP1 in white and red leather interior. Both are amazing cars but I do like the headlights and taillights of the AP2 better.
with my ap2 I feel that there's slight cowl shake at 65mph with the top down which really annoyed me, when driving with an oem hardtop the chassis feels more solid and totally eliminates any shakes at all, this is just my experience but other s2000 owners feel free to chime in
It’s called Scuttle shake, very common for convertibles. I didn’t know the AP had that issue considering they’re more stiff than a normal convertible vehicle
@@IntegraDIY yep I came from a NA miata with notorious shake maybe Albo can speak further about that since he had one, the AP2 is a very stiff chassis but nonetheless not as solid without the hardtop
I bought my first ap1 last year. I regret absolutely nothing... except having to daily drive it a 1000 miles a week 😞
That car will be gone 300 weeks if it was from factory with no mileage
@@milktar2182 thats a sad fact but true. Maybe the will drop a crate engine in it after
@@firstsonofmustachiosfirsts399 haha
Imo, the AP1 is the funner car but the AP2 is a lot more refined. Can’t beat shifting at 9k tho, just watch out for those valve retainers and the glass diff
Just discovered your channel, you are so underrated bro!
Japonik is a Recaro Pole Position type of guy 😁
....it's true, the s2000 is such an enjoyable car to drive (especially modded), that I have no doubt it's more pleasurable and engaging to drive, than a gtr or supra.
Japan, the land of the...cars that dont break down.
Except Subarus lol
In the UK all cars (AP1/2 - here, known as pre facelift/facelift) have the F20C 2.0 engine. I have two. An “AP2” to mod the hell out of, and an AP1 that is kept pristine and standard. Why? Because the AP1 is the original. And with prices of these rising and rising, if held on to, it’s the AP1’s in my opinion that will be worth the most money in the future. They’re the icon. They are the original after all.
Got an ap1 full road legal track car think at some point I'll take out the full cage and bucket seats put interior back to original and raise suspension up a bit make it more useable
So far wrong been noticing the ap2 is the most expensive of the two since I’ve been on the market searching for an s2000
@@sixstrz8310 Yeah I’m talking in 20 years, not 2 lol
love the video we'll waiting the turkish one from japonic
still kinda regret not buying one when they were 10k for a decent one but I was afraid to have it as my only car
Still like the 2006 S2000, ap1 engine with ap2 chassis. 9k redline with ap2 look. Sad that I had sold it in 2010.
Adamın sesi ingilizceyle çok uyumlu,youtuber olmak için doğmuş..👍🏼
nice whip, reminds me when Albo first got his :D look into changing out the rotors, brakes, and maybe calibers, and be safe, #Enjoy 🐺🚬
Best to buy is actually the AP1.5 which has the best of both worlds.
Two good guys, two nice cars, we came from Japonic.
-What you are drive?
-vtecc vtecccc
-ohhhshitt
Although I dunno wot different between this2 s2000 but I believe JDM life is the best!
Albo nun takipçileri diyecek bu adam ne her ay araba değiştiriyor
demişler kanka zaten :))
The exhaust on the AP2 sounds amazing! What kind of exhaust is it?
Japonic said that your channel iz good man
Are the interiors interchangeable?
Always wanted to drive a RHD S2k thanks for the experience! Oh yea Club Racer & hardcore hardtop for me!
ayyee new video just when my homework is done
What is better yellow ? 😆 rio or spa ?
which models came with the cut out for the screen? I want to be able to put one in when I buy an s2000. thanks all.
Are they talking about S660 when said about roadster ?
Should the original AP1 cars always be the most valuable?
as an AP1 owner; you know the answer.
# JDM life let’s go
# 🚗 🚘
Subbed just because I like the intro
Seviyoruz seni
Keep goinn albo 💪🏿
I love this keep it up!
ap2 cr
ap1♥️
Albo and his back handed comments as per normal.
Treats his friends like crap always.
Hey man, actually I strive to be a good friend and anyone who actually knows me in person knows that. So I’m not sure how you got that impression, but maybe my light hearted teasing sometimes in some videos comes across as mean to some people? I only joke around with people who are really my friends though. Could you give me an example of what you are talking about with “back handed comments as per normal”? Thanks, I appreciate the constructive feedback!
The s2000 boys now I have to get one lol
can any sk or whoever know which is better for racing/touge is it ap1 or ap2 ?
I think a ap2 is a api1 wanna b I rather have the original one budget is not a problem get the real thing and enjoy it there is nothing after a ap1 in the long run its going to be worth much more then any ap2
Hi from turkey. Take care of our uşak. Uşak consumes a lot.
:D
Hi man. Can you tell me what is the offset pls thanks
AP1 tail lights are sooooo much better than AP2
Albo you make me laugh so much haha! Got straight into the AP2 and said "stock seats" haha! Also, I love how you driven off in the AP2 and left the roof down on the AP1. I think Japan is amazing for that.
Bananas
Apples
Pears
And Oranges
AP1 with 17in rims. its already been tested and proven, the AP1 is just as fast as the AP2 when they swapped rims lol.
I personally favor the AP1, AP2 kinda has that MR2 Spyder look.
What knob is in Japonic’s?
*Albo you gotta catch mitsubishi galant fortis gts on camera* 😁
crazy guy with crazy turkhis man 👌👌👌👋🏻👋🏻
10 mins into the video and im getting motion sickness, Albo u need a gimbal man.
Sorry dude, I got a new one but this old camera stinks
Hello from Japonic
You know, I'd be tempted to buy a salvage auction s2000 with a missing or blown engine.... ..... aaaaaaaaaaand drop in a dirty dirty vag 1.9tdi to make everyone reeee when I roll coal at the cars and coffee
Hi from japonic
Hello from Turkey 😊
of course AP1, more hp and higher RPM
Bro why you only show the ap2 engine bay for like .3 seconds lol just clowning you, it is very impressive the amount of details you know
japonic ten gelenler +1
私も横浜で黄色のS2000に乗っています。
すれ違ったかも知れませんね。
Just buy a 04 05 ap2 and swap the ap1 or cr steering rack on it.
Japonic ten gelenler.
Can you add turkish subtitles ?
Japonic ten gelenler selam olsun @japonic faruk abi
Japonic🖤Albo
Heyy bizim abi de burda gururlandim laa
S2k's are still so expensive 😫
They hold their values
@@ducdu4136 always good to buy cars like that
@@stankhunter666 sadly i sold mine to get 04 Subaru sti. Would love to pick up a turbo s2000 in the future
@@ducdu4136 just keep saving im hoping to get one too i hope my friend that runs indotech races them and miata hope they dont get more expensive soon 😭
Japonic ten gelenlere sa
From Japonic
Hellooooo Alboooo :D Greetings from Turkey.
Ap1 for me can’t beat that 9,000!!! rpm
Neither was the answer btw