Why I Sold My Supercharged M3 for a Honda S2000, And Couldn't Be Happier (9,000RPM Noises Inside)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2020
- I used to own a track prepped, 625bhp supercharged E92 BMW M3. I sold that and bought, amongst other things, a 240bhp "gutless" Honda S2000. I couldn't have been happier, so let's talk about why.
#Honda #S2000 #Happy
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So refreshing to see a TH-camr just buy a car and not do the whole Shmee pre reveal/reveal/go back and reveal again then an update reveal/reveal from when getting serviced blah blah blah
Because most of them are cunts. Jay is not
Scott Irving or supercars of London, buy it, wrap it, put an exhaust on it, sell it 😴 I feel like shmee has made his cars in the same place video for the first time 15 times 😂
Ha...!!! Lmao...
True...!!!
True. Nuff of the poser BS please. Those aren't real petrolheads IMO.
@@ahemgee9542 I used to think so aswell but it's BS. You don't have to drift a car or push it to the topspeed to be a true petrolhead. Some petrolheads only like the mechanicals of cars and they are not even into driving but just like to work on cars. For example if you watch Jay Leno videos, sometimes he couldn't be more passionate when he's talking about a car but the driving parts of his videos are such garbage and I've never seen him go fast so he wasn't a petrolhead in my eyes until I learned more about the internals and started to get interested in what he can teach me about mechanics.
I regulary drive fast on the autobahn, therefore when someone who owns supercars drives them slower than I drive a goddamn minivan or bus this obviously raises some questions, but if I imagine myself owning as many cars as Jay Leno I would probably take less risks and drive slower, too, since I would have much more to lose then.
So petrolhead-elitism is wrong but I desperately need some type of indicator for the different types of car-videos or petrol-heads, like all I need is POV driving no stupid vlog or facecam during the drives, but imagine how hard it is to find and seperate channels in the pile of garbage we call automotive journalism on youtube. I'm just glad these f***ing useless youtube staff members have finally given me a feature to block channels from my feed so I no longer have to scroll past those stupid shmee videos every goddamn time I open youtube. I guess that's why I became a petrolhead-elitist before recognizing the bigger picture, because those stupid kids spending dads money were just abusing cars to get exposure for their stupid vlogs, to become celebrities, to show off, etc. and after the youtube-blocker was no longer working there was no way to remove that garbage which annoyed the hell out of me from my feed. So it's easy to discredit their passion but being a petrolhead is not all about being a fast driver and you can actually be a petrolhead while being an attentionwhore, you might be an annoying person and your content will steal valueable views from more relevant/passionate channels but you're still a petrolhead.
Aesthetically I think the S2000 is one of the best aging cars I've ever seen. 17 years old? It looks half that quite easily.
__ because the design is so simple and it’s design keeps the philosophy of a true sports car looks to its purists form. Long bonnet, short rear, simple lines. All makes are car look timeless
Dead right! It looked great at the time and still does. Instant classic
It because the in-wheel suspension causes everything to be pulled over the mechanicals. I wish Honda would release a new generation OEM LED headlight set.
@@TheQueenslander97 That coupled with honda going against the whole bubbly round shape most cars at the time were going for really has helped it stand on its own for the past 2 decades. Honestly if they did a new S2000, an S2020 if you will, the main thing theyd have to do to the exterior is slap on some daytime running lights and sharpen it a little and "Voila!" a modern looking vehicle!
Alright, this is gonna get lost in the comments but I always thought that even fresh out to showroom you could always tell a car was from the 90s or early naughties. Not just the external styling but because of the perceived quality and visual robustness. An group of characteristics you can't necessarily describe but can use to tell a modern day car is a new car and an old one is an old one.
Well, certain Hondas in particular from the early naughties can pull off a much newer, more modern look very well that other cars from the era couldn't. The DC5 being one of them, the S2000 probably another and hell, even some Japanese minivans (as ridiculous as that sounds).
I'm finally at the stage in life where I don't buy or do things for other people's approval and it's wonderful!
It is liberating… I always say why try to impress others when, at the end of the day, the only person that really makes a difference, is me. Enjoy!
At last you found out what you have been missing in the old UK roadster mentality. The whole idea of light weight cabrio that the brits started decades ago is exactly what an s2000 does and it does it extremely well
@Harry Monkfish my ap1 s2000 is exactly 1200 kg...
@Harry Monkfish compared to them yes its heavier. But both the Elise and the mr2 mk2 are very very plain cars inside.. Especially the lotus is like a kart..
@Harry Monkfish agreed. Compared to a BMW M3 by the way its very light though 😂
How is your SW20 915kg? Listed weight for the turbo is around 1200kg
@Harry Monkfish one of your earlier comments mentioned that you had a mk2 mr2. 3rd gen makes more sense!
I’ve owned several Porsche, Lotus, AMG, BMW and the S2000 is the car I’ve most loved.
My old 997 was better, but only just. Wish I knew the roads I know now though. I also crashed the shit out of mine🙄 😂
@Joe H haha how did you guess.. I was in a bad mood that day. Overtook at speed and ran out of braking room. Car became unsettled and lost control. I was a lot younger! Also I knee virtually nothing about cars and the geo and tyres were probably not 100% 😐
I sold my 3rd gen RX7 and picked up a second gen MR2. Girlfriend bought the ND Miata. I miss the RX7 but not the upkeep. Considering an NC, but have liked the E89s for some time. I always disliked the convertible strangely the Supra seems to have answered that complaint transmission aside. I'm thinking an e85 coupe might be more my style. RX8 and S2k populate the list as well. Do you have any experience with these by chance. Also have a weird itch for a Merkur, E30, or 190e project car. I think the e89 is the real outlier on the list
Fluterra.. wow that says a lot about S2000 then.
I traded a newer C63 AMG for a '99 BMW M Coupe, I think similar in concept to this with the S2000. It's a huge difference, and very fun! Love the S2000s also.
Since 2010 I own my 2002 S2000 and I still love it.
The driving experience is so great.
People that only look at the horsepower and torque specs and buy a turbocharged hatchback, don't understand the S2000 and will miss the feeling what this car has to give.
To be honest, if it would be my daily driver and only car I would not buy it.
But as a second car for the fun miles it is almost unbeatable in that pricerange.
Sold my S2000 when I went back to university. My god I miss that thing. Thanks for expressing all the good thoughts!
when you're done with school how will you drive back to home
U fool , never will I
Of course, we are biased but this is FANTASTIC!!
i drive a yellow honda beat and i know exactly what you're talking about. driving a slow car fast is the best way of having fun every damn day and not get into trouble.
A s2000 is not slow.
@@Franko384 It's all relative.
Agree. I owned my S2000 for 7 years and most drives were sweaty palms. Very exciting car even though not that powerful by todays standards. I'd certainly have another
Sounds f**king epic....
What Lawnmower sounds like this? I want one
@Blackporsche roadsterth-cam.com/video/QawADgNLLtA/w-d-xo.html
N/A V8 M3 sounds LOT better. He ruined the sound (and drivability) by adding a supercharger.
@@LifeStartsAtrpm Thats your opinion. The honda will always sound better than an European V8.
The M3 does not sound better than an S2000. Dream on.@@LifeStartsAtrpm
This man knows what he’s doing.
The best opening sequence and what driving is all about
Agreed.
I almost bought an S000 back in 2001, but decided to go for something more "useful" isntead....
Sigh, this video remidned me that I had the chance to buy one a few times for excellent prices, but by now here at our car market good S000s go for around 20k euros and upwards.
Which they are worth, mind, but that makes them less likely to be bought In the moment"....^^
S2000’s are AMAZING. I’ll never sell mine
You'd be crazy if you did sell it.
@@TheDalitis8 Funny enough, I’ve been debating selling it to buy a CR edition s2000. That’s fair right?
@@SendItMediaCo That is more than fair. I own a DC5 Type R, and I would only sell it if it meant it would be replaced by a good condition S2000.
Same here, AP1 75k miles 2 years ago for $12k. Silver with red interior. I'm obsessed with it.
@@TheDalitis8 Random update! I ended up buying a GPW CR back in July & loving it!
Hard to go wrong with an S2000, Jay! I'm a fan of pretty much anything that is lightweight, small and agile and the S2000 is one of the best of that lot. Enjoy it!
That pure uninterrupted engine vocalisation intro is sublime
I had this exact AP1 Spa Yellow S2k. From a performance/fun/reliability measurement, it was the best car I ever owned. I DD it in the sun, rain and snow and put 168k miles on it before stupidly letting it go. In that time the only drawback in terms of maintenance was the cat converter outer casings would rust out (the only part on the SS exhaust that wasn't) and start rattling loudly, which required their replacement twice. Other than that, it's as bullet proof as any 90's Civic, and I drove it HARD...so hard the rev limiter filed assault charges against me. The transmission/gear box in this is easily one of the best ever made and like you said, every control is within fingers reach without even needing to take you hand off the wheel. People who say you can't DD a S2k are crazy. It's a comfortable place to be and nowhere near as bruising as an M3, a Miata or even a solid rear Mustang of the same era. I've taken mine on many a day long trip and the seats are comfortable and supportive enough that I never felt stiff like I had from other much less sporty vehicles. If you ever reach the day when you decide to sell yours, you'll regret it, trust me.
The first minute alone made this video worth watching.
Got my s2000 ap1 2003. I’ve had it for 6yrs now and still puts a smile in my face everytime i drive it!!!!
I miss my S2k. I had one from 2003 to 08. Fantastic bloody car.
Me too, why did I sell it :(
I was made redundant and chose to sell the car, pool the cash and piss off around the world for a year :D
Since coming back to Edinburgh I've never owned a car again because I don't need one (and the cost is nice to not be a thing. And parking.).
I do miss being able to piss off to GlenCoe for lunch, mind
@@greyjackal Life experience that travelling the world for a year & good for the soul...
I think it’s the perfect car. Honda reliability v tec and a brilliant chassis.
M3 is a good car but S2K is a legend.
@J B unfortunately it is. That 316 common car with huge engine it's more important in sheep minds
@@justanothertroll9205 actually better practicality, just people think small buzzy engine roadster= GOD
they are useless for family men tbh just like the MX-5's i keep seeing get re sold on after some middle aged man buys one and then realises all his budget has gone into a 2 seater for his 5 person family, and only then its bought for fun, not exactly practicality, sure its the most practical roadster but still its just a smaller roadster.
but that doesnt make it a bad car, depends on what you need it for i guess, same with a ford transit van, sure its slower but you aint going to move a house of goods in a s2000.
saying sheep only fits you in that profile, and i aint even a fan of BMW's they are normally driven by silver spoon owners.
Alex Lo I don’t know man the e90 M3 is a pretty phenomenal car and I’m a super Honda fanboy. 🤔
@@Dockhead you don't get the point of these cars. Maybe you can buy a huge bus for the money so you can fit there the whole street :))
@@justanothertroll9205 maybe i dont, im not arguing there isnt a point to them, the car isnt the problem in fact its the public and the people who want one but dont need one, its a shame i just see them get bought then sold on for a technical loss.
ive been in a few myself but never driven one and tbh they are a good bit fun to even be a passenger in.
This is EXACTLY why I just bought an Evo 5. Pure driving pleasure in all weather! Especially on Norfolk B Roads!
Rule number one of S2000 ownership. Never sell it. I miss mine so much 😥
Same here. I swapped mine for a Lotus Evora but still think the S2000 is a better car overall.
But how can new people buy them if nobody's selling? 😉
Rule number two dnt crash it
@@stat1865 I including many others may have broken rule 2 😅
Shades of Le Mans* in the intro!
One can tell you learned your craft, unlike other TH-camrs.
*the movie
Thankyou
I was just watching that this week
Underbird
WoW!!...............
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@@jeremyb4493
It's a stunning movie
Watch Le Mans then watch ford vs Ferrari and weep. The way the cars are shot and the engine sounds in Le Mans are utterly amazing. FvsF looks like a computer game in comparison. All the sense of scale is lost. The cars look small and slow. Le Mans is a masterpiece. And those engine noises. Lordy I will be in my bunk.
Welcome to the club, and thanks for upping my resell.
The S2000 is truly one of Honda's best and most special vehicles. It perfectly represents the spirit of Honda and everything they stood for at the time of its development. I own a 2006 AP2 and can't wait to take it out of storage in the spring! Welcome to the S2k family.
One of the best cars ever made.
So glad you have 1 and enjoy 1. Many months ago I asked you about s2000 when you were helping your friend buying his first sports car you mentioned Nissan 350Z due to its V6. I’m a proud owner of my ap1. Looking forward to your upcoming videos.
20 year old design that never outdates itself; brilliant :)
That intro was eargasmic...!!!
👂💘
Had to watch this because of the M3 part in the title. I've owned my S2000 for around 5 maybe 6 years now and can't let go of it! I have however bought an E92 325i for my daily commute, at least for this winter to keep the S2 nice :)
Congratulations Jay, on your new toy. Sounds like it’s just perfect for you right now and I hope you continue to enjoy it just as much
Love how genuine this channel is, also love an s2k!
Great video. This video really brightens my day, especially with the engine note. There’s something to be said about a “happy” car like this.
congrats on your new car! its really rare to get an s2k nowadays
please look after it and restore it to the most original state
so refreshing to not be greeted with a pointless intro reiterating the title but instead be welcomed with one minute no words just pure orgasmic sound.
I aim to please
Sold my gt3 bought an s2000 never regretted it
As others have already said, it’s a tonic to watch you navigate your life with cars in a way we can all relate to. The fact that so much of it is driven by your heart and often chaotic is what makes this such great viewing. You offer something above bigger automotive YTers; all this feels real. I never really know what’s going to turn up next. It’s Danny DC2 / HubNut /Hoovie levels of zero monkeys given, and that’s a really good thing.
Cheers, it's what I aim for!
really liking your thought process....and once again the honesty in your reflection and communication...thanks
Yes! Great choice. Smaller, lighter and simpler equals more fun on the streets. Please dont spoil it.
Excellent - looking forward to this series!
Great video Jay, quite timely for me too..I always felt you had similar tastes in cars to me and I'll be getting a "forever" car soon and felt I would probably go NC MX5 BBR Turbo, but this has given me some food for thought. Thanks for sharing 👍
Most intoxicating intro ever. Beautiful car that. I love cars that were less interrupted by technology and really focused on the driving experience. Good job.
Great choice! I’ve had my Toyota 86 for just over 3 years now, making 241bhp and 246nm of torque (doesn’t rev to 9k obviously - jealous!) and I have much more fun than my friends do with more than double the power on the streets, which is where all our driving takes place
I'm torn between an M3 E46 and a BRZ/GT86. Can you tell me what mods does your 86 have to get you to that power number?
@@dimitarchardakliev5351 I owned an E46 M3 and had driven several 86s. The 86 is more fun. Just a pity the engine is a bit asthmatic.
@@HeyyyNicho Appreciate the feedback, mate. I'm just really emotionally invested in the M3, the look, the sound and the way it drives, I haven't driven an 86 though and I know it's the smarter choice i.e. newer car, lower running costs and a lower price. I still can't make a decision it's driving me crazy.
How did you get to 241 bhp?
@@grahamhaynes7658 240NM would be an incredible level of torque for an NA 2.0 litre. Maybe it's been bored out a little?
Amazing sound and love that you have segments where its nothing else but you flooring it
That engine reving so high in the vtec range in the intro was just orgasms in my ears !!! Woooo yo
Fantastic explanation with a new refreshing perspective on my favorite car I've ever owned... Been through a lot as well my dude.
I love when you change the route from point a to point b solely on the fact that you will engage vtec more times on the second route.
Nice ,you'll love it,I've had my ap1 for 11 years, just passed 243k,have fun bro!
Thanks!
S2K is on my list of cars I need to own! So watching this with interest. My favourite colour for the S2k is yellow also! With a charger and a few choice mods these things are awesome 👏🏼
Charging one of these would require a reduction in compression and peak rpm, wouldn't it?
Rick C No. Go to LHT Performance channel it’s their bread and butter in the US. The stock forged internals of the s2000 handle in easily
Rick C no in wouldn’t, I got mine supercharged at LHT last year, it actually revs to 8450 now instead of 8200, but to be honest I don’t often go there, I still usually stop around 8100/8200...
@@s2kkev292 Im gonna be bringing my S2k to LHT this year. Was it worth it? Im so torn between just buying a type r or SCing my s2k
Rick C & Shawn (below) LHT SC'd our '04 S2K (#51) in April 2018. Dyno'd 396 HP / 274 Lb torque tuned to 91 Octane. No internal changes to engine. Mods included Altered Kraftwerks SC, Clutch Master 300 kit, Skunk II header, LHT SS custom exhaust, injectors , fuel pump, and cooler spark plugs. Check out LHT's TH-cam Video: "GPW Rare S2000". It is a little beast!
It really is a special car. My grandfather has one and it always makes him so happy to get it out when i'm there. It's good that you got what YOU wanted. Be different than the other youtubers.
I have an 06. It tootle back and fourth to Wolverhampton and 3 miles back home. But I forget what it is sometimes. It's what it is, brilliant
Glad to see this back on the channel been looking forward to it. I had an e92 m3 and echo the same thoughts. Dull as dishwater. Sold for an integra DC5 and it was an absolute riot to drive in comparison.
Absolutely adore the S2000. An AP2 with a Spoon hardtop has been a dream of mine for a while now, bloody excellent.
Congrats Jay, had one for more then 10 years, still regret selling it, great car, every vtec rev puts a smile on your face.
Great choice, been looking at these myself for similar reasons - just bought an M4 Comp and whilst I love it, having fun isn't easy given road limitations. I think honest youtube channels like yours will stay the course, too many now are exercises in buying/exiting exotic cars with finance deals that the "owner" clearly cannot afford.
Bless you for actually driving the hell out of this car. She deserves it.
Fantastic review. Love the exhaust system sound.
that intro was great to watch thank you👍🏼
Its aged well. Loved my ep3, all about the driving experience.
This car aged incredibly well, crazy to think it came out in 1999. on japanese market.
I've been subscribed to you ever since I saw your Evora vs F355 video and it has been awesome watching your channel grow and change. I genuinely respect your opinion on cars and tend to think we share commonalities on the cars we like and dislike. That's why when I saw your purschased the S2000 I about lost my mind! I'm on my second one now, I've loved the cars for years and it's awesome to see someone, whose opinion I respect, share the same feelings about the car. I quite often think about selling it and buying something different. I've NEARLY bought many cars, from a 996c4s to a Cayman to a M3 to even a GT350 and an aircooled 911. But there's something about the old s2k that keeps me from selling it. I guess I'm stuck with it- its too good a car to let go. Any car I buy in the future will be an addition to the garage as the stook isn't going anywhere. Thanks for another awesome video and though I respect your choice in cars, I decisively disagree on the colors. People, say no to yellow please!
Finally someone who appreciates the vtec low cam for what it is and does. You’re spot on when you said something along the lines of other TH-camrs not actually liking their cars and that they are more worried that other people do instead.
Jay must have been watching a lot of Best Motoring lately!
BlitzkriegRap this is his version of j's racing s2000
The Amuse also, Gran Turismo dream car
Great opening. As I’ve said before, you capture and use sound brilliantly. Well played.
Thanks Joss
Best car channel on TH-cam period. Keep going sir! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
subbed bc you followed through on your excitement from the previous s2k video, and so that I can see what you do with it and get more ideas for my own ap1 :) and yes they are so much fun and so satisfying even just to drive around town
great video man. I was torn between the c5 corvette and this for my secondary, and came across this video in my binge; and I think you confirmed my decision. That interior is just so special and you can have so much fun (without getting pulled over or crashing lol)
Really looking forward to seeing what you have in store for it buddy. Big Honda fan here.
It looks real fun especially with that kind of driving road Nice content
Everyday enjoyment in a convertible. I feel you on that!
Great vid bud. Car looks awesome in yellow. Hope your taking mimms In April 🤩🤩🤩
I love your channel! Thank you for reviewing the seventh gen Celica GT-S with the 2zzge motor. I love mine. Might get another one. Very underrated cars.
Here for the lotus, stayed for the AP😍
Best colour wheel combo, fantastic engine. Love it
I hope you get to keep this beloved Honda S2000 for a very very long time.
new to the channel and subbed! you have a wonderful and honest presenting style and also looking forward to seeing this car develop
One of the best cars I had 🙌 glad you enjoy it :)
What you say makes perfect sense.... I own a S3 now which replaced my EP3 civic...and don't get me wrong ..The Audi is quick and full of gadgets and creature comforts...But the Civic was bags more fun even with a lot less power and being kitted out like a jail...I do miss it...
Very Cool..! It is Great to have a car your really Love and Enjoy ...All the time.. looking forward to more content on your S2000..👍
You Sir, made the right choice. I own am AP1 and it just feels great driving her around.
You're making me really miss my AP1. I love the MP4-5 style dash btw. I bought a 986 S recently partly based on your review of it. Don't make me have 2 convertible sportscars now! PS I also quite like the NC. We seem to have similar taste
I fully understand where you're coming from. I used to own an E60 M5. It was quite quick. Loved the engine, never really understood the gearbox, but it was brilliant when you absolutely caned it. I've always loved the engine in that car, but hated the fact that it was stuck in a heavy luxury salloon. It also had the fuel economy of a freight liner.
I then went on to an elise, which i absolutely loved. I daily drove it for about three years, and i put 120-130K kms on it. I wanted to keep it, but circumstances at the time didn't allow for it.
Time came to get a new car, and i got an MX5 ND2 RF. I couldn't be happier. 184 hp, just under 1100 kg, happy to rev, amazing fuel economy when driven sensibly. Fitted a good set of coilovers to it, and that made all the difference. No more rolling around. It's not quite like the elise, but it gets close at times, and i get a real interior, and i don't have to piss on my door locks in the winter. Bonus!
Automotive micturition is criminally underrated..
@@nottherealmccoy4955 wut?
Congrats on the ride. Your point about this being the right car for a certain kind of road is key. You should make a video expanding on that... maybe talking about the best cars for different kinds of roads. I've driven S2Ks and I didn't enjoy them because I live in typical suburban America. If I lived out in the country or mountains I'd love something like this
Good choice! You are in good company, I believe Petrol Ped once had one. This car is like a modern equivalent of the 1960's S800.
Thumbs up instantly to the glorious high rpm soundtrack!
👍
Great filming love the s2000 never driven one would love a go , springs coming can’t beat your roof down action :-)
Subscribing to see your plans for the car. Love my AP1 and honestly want to get another. Definitely the most fun car I've ever driven. It's so simple, but still has everything you need.
Congrats on the new purchase. Hoping it has a long and happy life with you.
Me too!
You sir have brilliant taste. Congratulations on owning a special car.
What a beauty... enjoy it to the fullest!
One of my dreams cars, great video and you did an awesome job reviewing the car! You honestly deserve a million subs you’re by far the best car reviewer I’ve came across on TH-cam! Enjoy your new car & drive safe! You earned yourself a new sub 👍🏼
Great looking AP1; can't wait to see what you do with it!
Looking at one of these for the summer (after missing my own Evora). Great choice :D
My favorite car reviewer reviews my favorite car. Thanks Jay!
My pleasure!
Really great video, enjoying all the content you are putting out.
Can’t believe you are only on 70k subscribers- the time and effort you put into your videos is superb- you have a no bullshit approach and I like the fact you don’t have a oh look at me persona - keep it up mate (btw I’m a BMW fanboy- gutted the SC E92 M3 has gone but love your honesty and understand why it went!)
hehe this dude has the proper voice and accent. Feels like a professional tv icon :D
Just want to say thank you for a great channel Jay. Sitting at home with a long term sickness I really look forward to your videos better than the meds am on.
Ha, same here. We could have a club.
It’s about the involvement of the driving experience. That’s what makes the S2000 the perfect car. Works for me at least…
I owned mine for nearly 5 years and I miss it badly, quality suspension and brake upgrades well set up turn an already incredible car into an an absolute gem. I’m already looking at getting my second one as a fixer upper