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    Can any Magic card truly be called “bad?” Yes, but that doesn’t mean you can’t have fun playing them! This episode, Rachel polls the Command Zone crew on cards they love to play even though they aren’t exactly optimized. Commander is a casual format! Play more bad cards! From 9-drops to draft chaff, come see if your pet card is on our list.
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  • @commandcast
    @commandcast  ปีที่แล้ว +56

    What’s your favorite “bad” card to put in your decks? What deck or decks is it in? And why do you love to play with it?

    • @XragebootsX
      @XragebootsX ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like to run Karmic Justice in mono white just as an incentive for my opponents to point removal elsewhere

    • @chefboyardee851
      @chefboyardee851 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sunbird's invocation

    • @LadyTsunade777
      @LadyTsunade777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolute Grace and Absolute Law. Giving _ALL_ creatures protection from Red and/or Black is great, especially when your own deck doesn't have those anyway. So now your creatures are all protection from some of your opponents' stuff, and they can't even target their own stuff to buff/equip them.
      I also really like Endless Horizons. It's a perfect way to make sure you hit your land drops in White. Just put like 6-7 Plains under it (even nonbasics) and you're set for your land drops; meanwhile, people are much less likely to remove it since destroying it would be seen as a dick move, and everyone knows the pain of being mana screwed. (but again, only put like 6-7 lands under it, so if it _does_ get removed you haven't exiled all the lands in your library)

    • @fishermankent2417
      @fishermankent2417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Villainous wealth. You could get some lands and maybe a ramp spell. OR! Maybe you get their (insert huge threat here)!
      I did have infinite Mana once and used it to steal someone's entire library

    • @eneser8883
      @eneser8883 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I absolutely love Possibility Storm, i run it in a Jhoira of the Ghitu deck, since it causes my opponents to not know what they will be playing, but i do since suspend is casting from exile. basically everytime I play it i lose but it is so funny to watch everyone (myself included) flip past great cards that we arent going to play. (it was also very funny to watch a friend mill themselves out by playing the one enchantment they had in their deck, and exiling their whole library)

  • @willem1847
    @willem1847 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    Bringing Rachel to the Command Zone is one of the best descisions ever.
    She is smart , friendly , funny and just awesome.
    She's a keeper

    • @merlinduty7546
      @merlinduty7546 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I missed where they changed the hosts, can someone explain when that happened and what the teams motivation was ?

    • @joshuaritter9747
      @joshuaritter9747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@merlinduty7546 I wish I new too I’ve been trying to find out I miss Josh and jimmy together

    • @firstnamelastname489
      @firstnamelastname489 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ppppplllllpp0😊

  • @XragebootsX
    @XragebootsX ปีที่แล้ว +446

    Rachel always seeing the cool side of “bad” cards is why she’s quickly becoming my favorite host.

    • @Matlock180
      @Matlock180 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree completely

    • @LilianaSimp
      @LilianaSimp ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I wasn't sure about her initially but I like that she plays commander like I do, to just have fun. I hear them talk about stuff being unplayable or too slow. Who cares? Just play it anyways if you like it

    • @GhaskullThraka
      @GhaskullThraka ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not gonna lie tho. Glad she finally lost on camera😅

    • @philcolton5933
      @philcolton5933 ปีที่แล้ว

      3444eee4

    • @philcolton5933
      @philcolton5933 ปีที่แล้ว

      3444eee4

  • @DerpyHippo
    @DerpyHippo ปีที่แล้ว +24

    In every commander deck I’ve built that has dimir colors, I’ve always run Wrexial, the Risen Deep. It was either in the 99 or the commander. It’s my absolute favorite creature card of all time, because my older brother gave me 2 copies of it when I first started collecting the cards. I will never forget how much of an influence he’s been to my life and as a thank you I run it as much as I can!

  • @HamburgerTime_
    @HamburgerTime_ ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Oh man, Jordan's philosophy on big mana. I built Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant for that exact reason. Anyone can go infinite, but I want to make 700!

    • @JordanPridgen
      @JordanPridgen ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes! Gimme a huge but non-infinite number any day of the week!

  • @Hemlocker
    @Hemlocker ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Repay in Kind is how Crim won the latest episode of Commander at Home, I'd never even seen the card before and I lost my shit

    • @vaporeon344
      @vaporeon344 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I watched the MTG Goldfish commander podcast, hearing him mention it in one of their videos. Inspired me to make a Selenia lifeswap tribal deck. It has been so much fun since.

    • @nathanialtumlinson5276
      @nathanialtumlinson5276 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I run it with Lichs mastery, drop myself to 0 and wipe everyone simultaneously

    • @Jonzin4BeatzNYC
      @Jonzin4BeatzNYC ปีที่แล้ว

      I came to comments for this!
      It was nuts

    • @thatepicwizardguy
      @thatepicwizardguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      was actually the greatest win in MTG I've maybe ever seen. I don't think the card is really that bad it's just very niche

  • @Crowned_Goblin
    @Crowned_Goblin ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I love seeing Repay in Kind. It's a banger in Rakdos self-harm deck.

  • @joewhite4456
    @joewhite4456 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The best part of lurking predators is it says "may put that card on the bottom of your library" so even if it's not a creature you still get to draw it next turn if you want it.

  • @achocofilah
    @achocofilah ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Repay in kind in my K’rrik deck has made my playgroup go from “dude your health total is too low to pay for that” to “oh no his health total is too low”

  • @nerd2death899
    @nerd2death899 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    One of my pet "bad cards" is the Wanderer from war of the spark. I love the card, despite the fact that while it can be really good, it often ends up being a four mana exile. But when its passive matters, it's really cool.

    • @verlandes1
      @verlandes1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +1, super cool card!

    • @gerardoramos3179
      @gerardoramos3179 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the random combo it has with Command the Dreadhorde where you can reanimate everything in all players graveyards without taking any damage. I've only done it once, but the joy I felt was immeasurable

    • @nerd2death899
      @nerd2death899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gerardoramos3179 that is legitimately one of the reasons I run the wanderer. That combo is so good, for such a better mana cost compared to something like rise of the dark realm.

    • @gerardoramos3179
      @gerardoramos3179 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nerd2death899 and price 😂 it's a budget build your own rise of the dark realm

    • @Nickpip11
      @Nickpip11 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's good in flicker when you can exile 2 or more things a turn

  • @michareszka1729
    @michareszka1729 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    My pet bad card is Descend Upon the Sinful :) I love its flavor - its not the best mass removal, but when I cast it, I feel like I punish all the sinful doings :) Plus it depicts Avacyn, my favorite Angel in Magic. I also, like to use Archangel Avacyn (the flip one), in many boros decks.

    • @kaba9926
      @kaba9926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember opening it in a booster and being so happy about it :)

  • @eltonsu
    @eltonsu ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love using Tempting Wurm and always cast it after making all my opponents draw a crap tonne of cards! Its super fun and chaotic and the fact that it puts me way behind is in some way a decent protection since my opponents are mainly worried about whats going on on my other opponents board.

  • @TheSpunYarn
    @TheSpunYarn ปีที่แล้ว +10

    easily one of the greatest recent episodes of the podcast. love the positive vibes.
    Mines gotta be Descent into Avernus. If I'm in red, there's no reason not to play it. Ramps everybody, but you use the mana first! the damage is hilarious and makes games go at lightning speed (but in the "everybody is popping off" way)

    • @masterbd0505
      @masterbd0505 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I LOVE descent into avernus. It gets wild quick.

    • @walterrodriguez4325
      @walterrodriguez4325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ohh yes I LOVE that card, nothing like setting a nice fire under everyone's asses!

    • @officeman15
      @officeman15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've got it in 3 decks and have never drawn it 😂

  • @cidsgamingcorner2727
    @cidsgamingcorner2727 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I also play lurking predator in alot of my decks but one of my pet cards is Chaos wand, i love the fact that i can use someone else's resources at a chance of course to disrupt someone else plans and I barely use any of my personal resources to do so. nothing will ever beat countering your opponent's expropriate with their own counter spell, one of my proud achievements with this card

  • @supernova86
    @supernova86 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Doubling Cube can also potentially help fix your mana. If you only have 1 blue available but need 2, and you have plenty of colorless or other colors, you can doubling cube.

  • @joewhite4456
    @joewhite4456 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Archfiend of depravity is so fun because no one seems to know what it does even when you've read it. It'll get to your next end phase and they'll say something like "wait, it only affects your opponents?!?"
    Painful quandary is another personal favourite or Serra's emissary too.

  • @jaya-prime
    @jaya-prime ปีที่แล้ว +9

    OMG! Only two cards deep at Song of Creation and already like: "I have found my people!" And Doubling Cube? All day long!

  • @christianhamm3563
    @christianhamm3563 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love dropping havoc festival and watching everybody start sweating immediately

  • @infinitedaryl2267
    @infinitedaryl2267 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rachel introduced me to Pandemonium in a video on Rakdos LORs. It has been so much fun. I’ve both won and lost because of it.
    My “bad card” is Havoc Festival. The art is literally 🔥 And it is hilarious everyone freaking out as their life totals get halved one by one and them working out the ideal time to remove it - usually after it gets back round to me. It also speeds up the game a little.
    A close third and fourth is Keen Dualist and Protection Racket. Again all good but silly in Rakdos decks.

    • @oelness
      @oelness ปีที่แล้ว

      my pod hates havoc festival, i've been quasi banned from playing it lol

  • @jacobnordquist3448
    @jacobnordquist3448 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    More of these videos please!
    Song of Creation: added to cart
    Repay in kind: already in cart
    Berserk: in each stompy deck already, this is a 10/10 that also let's you use it as a removal against other players when they attack someone else!

    • @FlowBerni
      @FlowBerni ปีที่แล้ว

      song of creation is really really really bad hahahaha :D

  • @jayhaviland4708
    @jayhaviland4708 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    They talked a lot about the art for Null Brooch but how did they not talk about how amazing the flavor text is?!

  • @AngeloRosales64
    @AngeloRosales64 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like idol of oblivion quite a bit as a card draw engine for most commander decks. Also Cauldron of souls is a great way to protect from board wipes.

    • @BigDrew49
      @BigDrew49 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love Idol. My Chatterfang, Ognis, Magda, and Hofri decks all turn it on nearly every single turn. Even getting 2 activations on it feels busted.

    • @maxpelaez4955
      @maxpelaez4955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That isn't a bad card tbh, it's two mana and easily gets u multiple cards in the right deck.

  • @Whiskyandrock
    @Whiskyandrock ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of my absolute favorite "bad" cards of all time is Unexpected Results. It's just so fun to play

  • @jyomi7506
    @jyomi7506 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Golden Guardian will always be one of my favorite cards. I love when people who have never seen realize that my 4 drop just punched one of my own creatures with the sole purpose of dying and becoming a land XD

  • @Society.gave.me.anxiety
    @Society.gave.me.anxiety ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I feel like I’m going to be attacked this whole episode LMAO

    • @Lootprechaun
      @Lootprechaun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why though?

    • @kylemotty5951
      @kylemotty5951 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a budget player and only proxy advocate in my playgroup, I feel you.

  • @Lenvyathan
    @Lenvyathan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Search For Glory is a very underrated card because it can tutor lands, planeswalkers (especially now that they are all legendary), creatures, artifacts, enchantments, you name it. I run it in my Arahbo deck, since it just finds the best cards in my deck like The Great Henge (like the go-to tutor 99% of the time because when do you NOT need ramp or card draw?), Mirri, Jazal, Ajani, Akroma's Memorial, the list goes on.

  • @markcooper4876
    @markcooper4876 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jordan Pridgen is my spirit animal. Every card he mentioned is in my Omnath, Locus of Mana deck (but I took out Genesis Wave because it took too long to resolve, and it usually resulted in a win.). He has the right mindset. Not infinite mana just a ridiculous amount.

  • @jstrobel3620
    @jstrobel3620 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My pet card and “bad card” I love is Mimic Vat. I try to get that card in every single deck I can!

    • @Matlock180
      @Matlock180 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mimic vat is awesome!

    • @RuudAwakening
      @RuudAwakening ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love that one! same as mirage mirror, so versatile AND colorless!

    • @RG-wv3gt
      @RG-wv3gt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great choice, the vat can lead to such fun and silliness

  • @FlowBerni
    @FlowBerni ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Can we have a Game Knights episode with Arthur and Rachel as the hosts? I miss that guy he has chill vibes and Rachel is Rachel.

  • @ferdithetank7535
    @ferdithetank7535 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favourite in that category is gotta be Glorious End. Red counterspells are mostly unheard of (except for Red Blasts/Deflecting Swat), this is closer to red extra turn effects, where you get the benefit for low mana cost, but have to win or die right after.
    Also, it features Ray Swanland art, he is my favourite Magic artist!

  • @NerdByAnyOtherName
    @NerdByAnyOtherName ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Some of my thoughts, for whatever they are worth:
    Doubling Cube: In the new Omnath, it lets you cast an _even bigger Torment of Hailfire_ and I am totally here for it
    Song of Creation: Hey guys! Look! I found a way to break Omniscience! But really, this card has the biggest Timmy energy ever and I love it!
    Repay in Kind: This card screams "if I'm going down, I'm taking you all with me!"
    Mirrorpool: I think- "I'll copy my Genesis Wave/Exsanguinate/Jaya's Immolating Inferno!", JLK thinks- "I'll copy my Mulldrifter!" Craig- "I'll copy my Craterhoof..."
    Berserk: One of my favorites, and of course I love Berserk into a "Fling" effect

  • @RuudAwakening
    @RuudAwakening ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magma Phoenix!
    A (limited) boardwipe on a flying stick, a nuisance for most dragons because it can take a 6/6 with it in combat.
    Rattlesnake type card "dare to attack me". Even more in a deck with sac outlets.
    Recursive so you always can create a board position (bonus: can help you out when looting or rummaging). Even progresses the game because each time it dies, everyone is taking 3.
    And an invincible feeling when equipped with a basilisk collar!

  • @caseywellington4761
    @caseywellington4761 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best episode in a really long time! I love the idea of underplayed cards getting the love they deserve!

  • @ryanscharf3353
    @ryanscharf3353 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    my group calls them "pet" cards, I feel like these cards define a player and show what makes that player unique

  • @ShadowMiner2358
    @ShadowMiner2358 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite “bad” card that I just absolutely put in every white deck is probably lapse of certainty. I fell in love with it after I watched Josh play it and even though it’s a stall I just love when I throw it out and the table just goes 😮

  • @lcpsteel
    @lcpsteel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thieves auction. Most people scoop when it hits but when it resolves it's souch fun in my blim deck

  • @rustybaker7537
    @rustybaker7537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mine is spell Swindle. It's a lot of mana for a counterspell but I once used it to stop craterhoof Behemoth and when the player full swung at me that combat I used that mana to Cyclonic Rift my opponents boards. That story and those exceeding low odds of ever happening are why I play it because hey it's not likely "but your saying there is a chance"

  • @verlandes1
    @verlandes1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mine is Predator, Flagship. Clunky as hell, but kind of flexible for blocking and/or removal. Plus I love all things Rathi Overlay.

  • @andrewdavis5854
    @andrewdavis5854 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Debt to the Deathless is a card EVERYONE tells me to take out, but I can't. I love it too much

    • @faerie7dragon
      @faerie7dragon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most metal art ever and if your deck can make a decent enough of mana, you might win in the spot.

    • @Hemlocker
      @Hemlocker ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That card is straight-up underrated. It's basically a better Exsanguinate. The total drain is higher than Exsanguinate's when you spend more than 6 total mana, which is the bare minimum that people spend on Exsanguinate in the first place. Pretty much any deck that has Exsanguinate and access to white should just swap it for Debt to the Deathless imo.

    • @caseywellington4761
      @caseywellington4761 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a better Exsanguinate

  • @heath1948
    @heath1948 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Doubling cube is a commander stable, especially if you have a way to make infinite mana because you then use doubling cube to make even more mana

  • @hiddenleaf414
    @hiddenleaf414 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love to play Bloodthirsty Blade. Keep the most dangerous creature off of you, while pressuring another opponent is extremely underrated. Also allowing more time for you to set up.
    Also: Go Team Galactic Jake! Glad to see another Jelle’s Marble Runs enthusiast.

  • @FrogAtog
    @FrogAtog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One card I play that I know is not a great rate but I include it in every green deck I can is Krosan Restorer. I love tapping and untapping things and you can do some cool stuff with bounce lands and haste. It also says you can untap any land so someone's maze of ith can get two creatures so you can strike a deal.

  • @KLang509
    @KLang509 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Search for Glory is so good! And Howling Mine is def one of mine. But my big one I always play if it’s U/R is Fevered Visions. It’s just such a good card. Speeds up card draw for 3CMC and punishes your opponents.

  • @alvaro234
    @alvaro234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Explorer's Scope. I know it is not the best card but I love to run it on my Yuriko deck. I am going to attack every turn, it cleans my top and ramps whenever I find a land on top of my deck for a very cheap cost. It is a bit more casual friendly than a full optimized Yuriko and it has come in clutch many times

  • @spellbreakerunbound
    @spellbreakerunbound ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite “bad” card is ebony fly, it becomes a creature and can give your creatures evasion and when its not doing that its a 2 mana rock!

  • @mystikx2205
    @mystikx2205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blinding Powder is easily my favorite "bad card", merely because I can go "POCKET SAND!!!" when people go to attack.

  • @nycstreetpoet
    @nycstreetpoet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my favorite “bad” cards is Teferi’s Puzzle Box. That kind of chaos is worth a loss, and it’s insane in a draw pain decks.

  • @DrakeAMV
    @DrakeAMV ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My favorite interaction is when someone asks me what they can do to make their deck better. I tell them cards ABCDEFandG. Then they say they're their pet cards. Well, all the other cards are good so.......

  • @ReyosBlackwood
    @ReyosBlackwood ปีที่แล้ว

    26:38 I run lurking predators in my Mayael deck. I also run Cream of the Crop, that heavily cuts down on how random it is when it also lets you search the next 5+ cards fir another creature.

  • @DrakleStudios
    @DrakleStudios ปีที่แล้ว

    For me, I think it's gotta be Deadbridge Chant. It was played by one of my friends who built a Golgari deck using the Ravnica guild kit, and as soon as I saw it I fell in love with it and took me years to finally get together a Golgari deck of my own just to play it. The big mill to enable my graveyard shenanigans and the pay off of random card regrowth/reanimation adds a fun mini game to my upkeep. It is the first card I tutour for whenever I get the chance

  • @zachrichins2313
    @zachrichins2313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite bad card is just cause of flavor. And I put it in all my graveyard strategies deck. It’s “Mortal Kombat” -at the beginning of your upkeep if you have 20 or more creature cards in your graveyard. You win the game.

  • @HexQuesTT
    @HexQuesTT ปีที่แล้ว +11

    for once I am FULLY with Ladee Danger, Lurking predators is one of my FAVOURITE cards in my Neyith deck

    • @caseywellington4761
      @caseywellington4761 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, if you're playing lots of creatures and your mana curve is high, it's always a banger

  • @jsato4921
    @jsato4921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mine is Feed the Clan. I run it in Kalamax, where the floor is gaining 20 life for 2 mana, and the ceiling is way higher. It does nothing for the overall strategy of the deck, it's just an instant that's fun.

  • @jolteon345
    @jolteon345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my favorite bad cards to play is Spectral Searchlight. It’s been power crept out of being a good card but I like holding it open as a bargaining chip for when an opponent goes “…if I had one more mana…”
    Another one is Zoetic Cavern as slow bad ramp. I mainly ran it in red and white decks but have really toned it down. That morph could be anything.

  • @frankschirmer9464
    @frankschirmer9464 ปีที่แล้ว

    My two are Guided Passage (and similar 'opponent chooses' effects) and Pulsemage Advocate (in Sen Triplets).
    Guided Passage makes another player interact with you and think about what they are giving you.
    Pulsemage Advocate on the target of Sen Triplets is recursion and 'drawing' three from the opponent's graveyard.

  • @shilohartisan
    @shilohartisan ปีที่แล้ว

    10:27 "They could be twice as dead" lol this is why you put a comedian in the chair! I love you Rachel!
    I'm twice as dead.

  • @Mr_B_251
    @Mr_B_251 ปีที่แล้ว

    A card I fell in love with the moment I saw it was Prosperous Partnership. It's borderline inefficient (3 mana to cast, makes 2 tokens so need a third creature, etc), it's pointless to protect, but if left unchecked can literally win games. 3 mana, use the random utility creatures I don't want to attack with to make treasures! Easily my favorite new card from 2022. Not the most optimal card, but if I am in Boros+ and playing creatures, it's going in there!

  • @GhaskullThraka
    @GhaskullThraka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One card I love that is definitely a win more card is nyxbloom ancient. 7 mana for triple mana is just so over the top

  • @thedeadone5750
    @thedeadone5750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doubling Cube with the new Omnath, Locus of all?

  • @danielgolinski2265
    @danielgolinski2265 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love playing conjured currency. It rarely helps my decks plan directly, but it is janky removal and leads to loads of fun as it's passed around the table making a mess of everything.

  • @jonathankowatch6947
    @jonathankowatch6947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Search for Glory! My bad cards are probably Pull from eternity, riftsweeper, and End-raze Forerunners. pull from eternity is fantastic when my Avacyn, Angel of Hope gets exiled or for when people suspend a powerful spell. Riftsweeper same thing. End-Raze Forerunners is worse than Craterhoof but I like it cause it more fair and makes it feel like I earned the win more.

  • @vaporeon344
    @vaporeon344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have recently added back lightning bolt into all of my red decks, for the sake of bolting a player and killing them with it. I know it’s not optimal, but the moment will be worth it in spades.

  • @gerudo4sale861
    @gerudo4sale861 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love when you do these type of episodes. Its a shame they release so much product to force you to spend time talking about the new cards so much

  • @arkanixarcmage6225
    @arkanixarcmage6225 ปีที่แล้ว

    A couple of enchantments...
    1. Planar Chaos: for a random little mini game, and the art is crazy!
    2. Ritual of Subdual: shuts off mana. I once won a game with 1 forest, a few elves, and single chromatic star!
    Years later...I married that opponent!

  • @Agis5512
    @Agis5512 ปีที่แล้ว

    I card I really like to play that I also consider "Bad" is Magmatic Force. I love it when it's cheated into play and it's a huge threat when it's on the board, just blasting something each upkeep is so sweet. But it's a little expensive for the effect at eight mana. I was ramping into it in my gruul ramp deck and I remember thinking "This seems a little steep."

  • @_Mythic777_
    @_Mythic777_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, I like howling mine. The way I use it in a way where it exclusively benefits me is pairing it with Karn, Living Legacy, as I can tap it to deal damage as well as prevent my opponents from drawing additional cards, so I am more likely to draw what I need to ramp, inflate, and destroy lol. For those who might be wondering, I use it in a blue-red-black artifacts deck :)

  • @cosmicprison9819
    @cosmicprison9819 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Howling Mine explanation is a good point. Perhaps it would be fun to have a Commander game with a stack of cards full of global effects in the middle - much like Planechase - and then you just flip a few of those. Could be a Howling Mine (Dictate of Kruphix), or something that doubles mana for everyone (Dictate of Karametra), or doubles damage (Dictate of the Twin Gods), etc.

  • @mrcafeman1
    @mrcafeman1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I run Fractured Loyalty in my Niv-Mizzet Parun deck. It’s a two mana aura that enchants a creature and then when enchanted creature is targeted by a spell or ability, the controller of that spell or ability gains control of enchanted creature. I love putting it on the biggest thing on the table and watch everyone fight for control of it. Then when it gets to my turn, I draw for turn, deal one damage to it with Niv-Mizzet, and take it for myself. Until I pass turn of course, and the fun begins all over again! 😊

  • @DancingPigeon
    @DancingPigeon ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Oath of Lieges in a big mana White deck for very similar reasons to Murph on Howling Mine. It helps mono W decks accelerate, which isn't something the colour has historically done, but it also normalises the game for anyone not playing Green where we all get to leach off of the big mana Green player.

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I completely agree with Jordan, I love slapping together nyxbloom and mana reflection to make ALL the mana

  • @BillToenjes
    @BillToenjes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Null Brooch is VERY good in a colorless EDH deck, have played in Karn, Silver Golem and Traxos, Scourge of Kroog - even better with Bottled Cloister + Unwinding Clock, counter a spell every turn to protect your board-state from Cyclonic Rift, Vandalblast, etc.

  • @dancook6114
    @dancook6114 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a huge soft spot for lurking predators. That mainly comes from when I was in a game and my buddy basically tapped out to cast their ur dragon and it was their last chance to try and win since they basically had nothing but maybe the draw off the dragons attack trigger would give them a chance. My lurking predators triggers and what do I flip but a draining whelk. After the initial salt subsided he did admit that it was a pretty funny thing to flip

  • @GrimSoulBanisher
    @GrimSoulBanisher ปีที่แล้ว

    Champion of Stray Souls in my Sidisi, Brood Tyrant deck. Pulling off it's ability, sacrificing a bunch of tokens to pull out all my creature cards always makes people go, Dayum! That's sweet. I've won several times with it and it's always fun.

  • @maxxchop4466
    @maxxchop4466 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this “series” and seeing the command zone cast’s opinions on random cards.

    • @GhaskullThraka
      @GhaskullThraka ปีที่แล้ว

      They should totally just do a part 2 for both. There’s just so much to talk about

  • @ALTR_no_EGO
    @ALTR_no_EGO ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Fiery Gambit. I have it in my Burn deck. Succeed 3 coin flips (or dice rolls) and it lightning bolts something, deals a bunch of damage, and you untap your lands.
    Miss a flip, and it does nothing. It's so stupid, and amazing when it actually works.

  • @DragonAttack515
    @DragonAttack515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Bad Card I often Play is Mindslaver. 10 Mana top steal a turn is not good, but it just feels so good!

  • @EvolutionSTUD10S
    @EvolutionSTUD10S ปีที่แล้ว

    Infinite Reflection comes to mind for me. 6 mana is a lot and you're up against the legendary rule but you can do some wacky stuff with this card. For example, Relentless Rats + Infinite Reflection + Jon Irenicus makes for a grand time.
    I'm also a huge fan of Cloudshift for protection and Thalia's Lancers to go find all those juicy legendary cards we put in our edh decks. Now that I think about it, I also used to run Soramaro, First to Dream in a landfall deck to help with landfall triggers.

  • @joshprice4855
    @joshprice4855 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine are storage lands and the ally eggs.
    Theres just something so comfy about cards that "bank" mana that even though I have better cards I could play I can't resist playing these where I can.

  • @ty_sylicus
    @ty_sylicus ปีที่แล้ว

    For me, it's the first Mythic I ever opened, at my first Pre-Release event, that became my first EDH deck: Aurelia, the Warleader.
    It's been over 10 years now and, while I've revamped and rebuilt the deck numerous times, it's never been any good. Yet I continue to play it despite how much it under performs.

  • @empurress77
    @empurress77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doubling cube is great when you have a way to untap it a bunch.

  • @ringoderbar1522
    @ringoderbar1522 ปีที่แล้ว

    Standstill
    it feels more like a mini game you play during the game. either the game gets slowed down, but everyone gets to draw cards and dump some lands. And when somebody is like "i dont care anymore", all the other players get to draw 3 cards each.
    Normally, the player who triggered it, regrets their decision. It's so fun.

  • @brunolustosa3545
    @brunolustosa3545 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doubling Cube is actually pretty decent in colorless decks, that tend to ramp aggressively using artifacts, and are able to generate huge amounts of mana to cast Eldrazi, high cost artifacts, and so on.

  • @Dongleoid
    @Dongleoid ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite Bad Card is Shake Down Heavy from New Capenna, a 10/10 card

    • @tierneypreston7661
      @tierneypreston7661 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't know about 10/10, but it is a solid 6/4

  • @thatoneguy4783
    @thatoneguy4783 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see an episode on the different gameplay options within commander. Like 2v2, archenemy, secret roles, planar chase. 4 player free for all is the default but I'd love to see the other options get some love too. And the more people who know they exist, the better

  • @glasseagle8368
    @glasseagle8368 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keen Duelist, it is slow and low impact card advantage that really blows up in your face when someone flips a high cmc card. But it is SO fun in those moments before you flip! Especially if one or both of you are low hp. Plus added political bonus potential.

  • @FUser-tz4ei
    @FUser-tz4ei ปีที่แล้ว

    demonic consultation, in the tutor slot. 10/10 competes with decks using demonic tutor, and forces you to use it when the end is in sight for better or worse, so not a huge risk of accidental decking

  • @721figgy
    @721figgy ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I love running bedlam. It is so much fun for everyone to just start slugging and throwing hands with no concern for their own safety lol.

  • @T.O.W.I.R.
    @T.O.W.I.R. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spy network is my absolute blue run bad card. So many better cards (anything that scrys for 1), but being able to look at an a opponents hand, their top card, and by the off chance, any face down creatures, its just a big party of knowledge for 1 blue.

  • @rylanchampion5972
    @rylanchampion5972 ปีที่แล้ว

    Master of ceremonies from New capenna.... It's basically draw 3 and all your opponents draw 1...each upkeep.

  • @Meteor270
    @Meteor270 ปีที่แล้ว

    I run Search for Glory in my budget Dihada Legendaries deck. It puts in some work, tons of options to pluck out an answer. Table doesn't feel bad as its an "expensive" tutor.

  • @rondoiron6907
    @rondoiron6907 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love me some Surveyor Scope. Play it in most boros and some mono-red as a way of catch-up and ramp. Useless in green but I still love having it in other decks

  • @narvuntien
    @narvuntien ปีที่แล้ว

    I play Mirriorpool in my Glissa, the traitor deck. Since it is mostly artifact creatures I can play a lot of colourless utility lands and combine artifact recursion with greens land recursion.

  • @tam-ka-blam9736
    @tam-ka-blam9736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The card I consider bad that I enjoy is Colossification. Sure it costs a lot of mana, taps my creature when it enters the battlefield, and becomes a huge target for everyone since it is now a scary +20/+20, but if I have enough protection spells it can really change the game. Especially if I have it attached to my commander who can now possibly one hit anyone.

  • @redram9
    @redram9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Null Brooch is great for Haakon as a mono-B self discard for your knights.
    Aurelia's Fury can be repeatable in a Feather Deck - pay 2 into X and target 1 damage at your own creature to get Fury back at end step

  • @GrizleMah0gany
    @GrizleMah0gany ปีที่แล้ว

    Mayael was my first commander! I foiled it out and its getting buried with me. Glad Mrs. Danger is still rocking her as a commander too.

  • @justinkopy3354
    @justinkopy3354 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely agree with Murph on Howling Mine, but I also like to run cards like Inspiring Statuary, Ghirapur Aether Grid, or Relic Barrier alongside it to have a way to shut off the card draw for my opponents and bask in the singular glory of being the only player drawing two cards per turn.

  • @CarterCat60
    @CarterCat60 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like playing with tasseled dromedary, honestly a comical card that no one uses, but it’s my comical card that no one uses, and it’s also funny because I have had it attack in a critical point in the game, and it was good!

  • @sanfranfan53
    @sanfranfan53 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love my Doubling Cube in my OG Omnath deck! This is an attack!

  • @Passtheremoteplease
    @Passtheremoteplease ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me it’s ruin crab! Was my favorite card when I started deck building but found out real quick how bad it was. I now run it in my Volo deck where I make 20 of them and mill kill instantly.

    • @Dragon_Fyre
      @Dragon_Fyre ปีที่แล้ว

      20 of anything tends to kill instantly 😂

  • @SquareViking
    @SquareViking ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to cards that come to mind.
    Keen Dualist is just a card I really love. I think I'd throw it into any deck I could because it's just dumb fun. Did I just take 7 damage while my opponent took none? Yes. Was it hilarious? Yes.
    Triumph of Saint Katherine is another one. First because I absolutely love Adepta Sororitas, secondly because it feels so good to cast it for its miracle cost. I played with two new people the other weekend and both of them went "Why? Why would you use this?".
    My answer: FOR FUN! And it fits into Celestine thematically.