Even worse when you're carrying around 99 phoenix feathers or whatever that can literally bring people back to life after they were chewed up by a machine and then exploded, so it's literally impossible to not save someone; but the writers want them dead so they're just dead. 😡
I swear, if normal glass was made of whatever the hell it's made of in these games we'd probably have a pretty significant drop of window-related issues
I dunno. In games it's either invincible adamantium glass or complete rice paper. Depends on if you are watching someone dying or throwing them through it
Polycarbonate is remarkably resilient & nearly impossible to shatter, even when paper thin, & is relatively cheap (I did my floor-to-ceiling family room windows for around $300 inc shipping & custom framing). When 3/4" thick, it's bulletproof, but still has the light transmission of glass (granted, we're talking pistols & resistance to single rifle shots rather than full automatic rifle/machine gun fire, but still)...and the very high cost would be nothing for a high security area. Just because something looks like glass doesn't mean it's glass.
This trope has been used so many times, that now I want to see a game make the setup, but it is later in the game, when your character can break glass. Then there are two ways you can go: think that the glass cannot be broken because of the trope, don't try and watch the person die; or, realize your character is in fact strong enough to break the glass, do so, and save the person.
It would be even better if they play it straight the first time, but by the second time you've explicitly gotten strong enough to break the "reinforced" glass. Then the smirking bad guy gets up close, to taunt you. Then the QTE button appears. You can ignore it, but that just means your character grabs the bad guy after they turn away, to make it even more brutal.
I want one with a whole cut scene with in game graphics and perspective but that at the end of the cutscene before the death of the character you can shoot one more time to break the glass resulting in a 4th wall breaking cutscene.
I don't know if I would call Sophia Lamb's death a "tragedy", considering [SPOILER ALERT] she is the big baddie of Bioshock 2, mind-controlled you into shooting yourself in front of your daughter at the start of the game, tried to brainwash Eleanor for years, AND tried to smother her with a pillow when she refused to obey her ... oh, and the whole "trying to take over the world and end Human existence as we know it through some kind of assimiliation plot" thing, too. Sure, she IS some kind of mother figure to Eleanor, however twisted, but ... *suddenly remembers that her death is the prelude to Eleanor going full-throttle evil and being unleashed upon the surface world with superpowers and technology far ahead of the rest of the world* Oh, nevermind. I see it now.
Good point about that, but I think the ACTUAL moment the commenter in the first one was referring to was, in fact, Eleanor nearly being smothered because THAT happens behind glass too if I remember correctly, and I think the commenter just mixed up the names. It would make a LOT more sense because Eleanor is who Delta has been chasing this entire time, and you come SO CLOSE to reuniting -- and then Sophia pulls that, and the endgame starts with you learning you're inevitably going to die. Oof.
For casual Star Wars fans, probably Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II - Mysteries of the Sith, where *SPOILERS* To finally beat the otherwise unstoppable and Dark Side-corrupted Kyle "Forcedamned" Katarn in the endgame, you (as Mara Jade, future wife to Luke Skywalker in the Legends continuity) have to accept being one with the Force (in short, death) all while hoping that her corrupted Master snaps out of his Dark Side reverie and spare her... suffice to say, she succeeds. To lore veterans, such acceptance was already done by other characters such as Ulic Qel-Droma from the Tales of the Jedi comics, Obi-Wan Kenobi from Ep. IV, and even Cal Kestis during his final confrontation with the Jaro Tapal apparition in Dathomir from Jedi: Fallen Order, so it wasn't hard for them to figure it out.
I got to the end of a few games and had this the bioshock games (especially infinite) do big info dumps at the end of their games which made me go “wait what?!” And do a google to get a full explanation.
"On the one hand - the glass has to be super tough to deal with the high water pressure at the bottom of the sea. But on the other hand - IS A BIG DRILL..." It is this kind of writing that I adore you folks for!
Ellen: “The opening of Transformers: Fall of Cybertron can be summed up in one word…” Me: “Loud? Because holy crap that was louder than the rest of the video.”
Yeah, that audio may have needed a rebalance there. I was playing something while listening so I couldn't turn it down, but it was like game audio went silent for that explosions and screaming montage XD
Ok, but in Bioshock they establish that some “glass” in the makeup of rapture is actually Rydanium - a clear steel-hard alloy used to withstand deep sea pressures.
@@peachesplums There’s only two times Rydanium is broken. Once by a Bouncer in 1960 on a random pane and again by a Big Sister near the beginning of 2. Delta never breaks it. Also, Sofia would probably have the highest quality in front of Eleanor’s room.
When he said that I literally LOL'd. I also absolutely appreciated Elena completely invalidating that entire "impotently palm slapping the glass" scene with a single small toolbox.
I would argue that Doomguy would rather try to save the lives of the humans, but in Eternal's DLC he literally resurrected Satan just so he could fight him, so I dunno.
Hey, remember in Control when you saw that guy with the Fridge? How he couldn't leave because if nobody looked at it the darn thing would do something horrible? If we were able to just break that pane of glass with our magic gun or psychic powers, we could've saved him from getting murdered by the thing inside the fridge.
Actually that's a great point, why was it necessary to walk around the corner, the place was already in chaos and the guy in charge of watching/containing the fridge never mentioned that a sealed room was an essential part of it's containment
There aren't many channels I hit like video unseen, but you guys deserve it. These theme lists are always great, puns, fun game memories, and a visit with the 5 of you. Thank you for all the hard work (and John and anyone else)
I’m sorry I just read that as Big Fucking Guy 9000 and now I must share that cause if I have to look like a giggling idiot in front of my family you have to as well.
@@Renge43 to be fair to you, it works that way too. The person wielding the BFG is fucking big and so much of a guy that it is in the name. The glass withstands him as well
Possible at all to have a reverse video, "times when a pane of glass saved your life?" To be honest, I mainly have in mind skipping that cutscene on the bridge of The Pillar of Autumn during "The Maw" level in Halo 1 leaving the indestructible window display up front so that the approaching sentinels are much easier to deal with (very helpful on legendary).
I've an idea for a list that I don't think you've done: 7 protagonists who look identical to more famous video game protagonists.... the name needs workshopping but I can already think of like 3 or 4
I'm surpised no one has mentioned Julie Langford's death in Bioshock. You spend all that time helping her save Arcadia, only to watch her die on the other side of glass.
When (Bioshock Infinite spoilers) the rebel leader held a child hostage behind glass, I went ahead and resigned myself to how this was gonna go. Glad it didn’t happen that way.
Imagine if all games had realistic destruction for everything, forget just breaking the glass you'd probably take an entire building (or even space station) down by 'accident'.
I kinda want to see a scene where you look on helpless as something bad happens but then as the bad guys are leaving they lightly slam the door and the glass just falls out on it’s own. Or maybe the protagonist leans and bangs on the glass repeatedly and then as the baddie leaves the glass falls towards him revealing that him leaning on it was all that was holding it in place the whole time.
"What if kicking?" Sounds like the perfect name for Mike Channel's autobiography.🤔 Actually Bulletstorm seems like a game Mike would really like. This reminds me of that time Ellen kicked a bear in AC Odyssey and Mike kept talking to everyone about it like a proud Dad.😂
Dead Space: Hammond's Death. A sequence plays out where a man is brutally torn apart behind a pain of glass. The monster responsible for said murder then breaks the glass and comes after you. Fun stuff!
And even later, Dr. Mercer kills Temple and Elizabeth (the logs of whom you've been finding throughout the ship like a second protagonist) right in front of you. And despite the fact you're carrying futuristic space tools that are either energy tools or could be as simple as saw blades with DIAMOND tips, you can't break the glass.
The unnamed scientist that was killed by the baby necromorph in the first Dead Space but also the girl that committed unalive- the exploding baby scene from the 2nd Dead Space... I'm sure there's more lmao.
The Darkness when Jackie's girlfriend is executed right in front of him. Granted, he is being restrained as well, but he still couldn't, you know, kick through it or anything either.
Man, they have that scene right before where they have like a nice night in together. I was young and kinda fell for her a bit, then that happened. It truly affected me. I didn't go back to the game for months and I didn't restart I just played from after that scene.
For Bioshock 2, I get the feeling the OP was actually referring to Sophia suffocating Eleanor with a pillow just before the last level but got the names switched. Also I think you meant to call the entry "Sophia's Death". That really confused me.
Damn right, I was thinking am I the only one here who actually played this game? And given that your choices do influence the outcome, as noted, you *can* prevent any tragedy. So it doesn't fit at all.
Yeah, I was referring to the part where you find Eleanor on a bed in Persephone and enter a very flimsy-looking quarantine chamber that closes a glass door in front of and behind you. You can then only helplessly watch as Sophia suffocates Eleanor with a pillow to break the bond between you. A lot of comments about how you were weakened by a bomb, but this was before that in a part of the game where you just solo'd two big sisters at the same time, is fully decked out with gatlings n' guns n' grenades, and likely wielding every plasmid the game has to offer in their fully upgraded form (not to mention said power drill that we've seen go pretty deep into solid metal and also used to smash through barriers of concrete rubble). But shattering a door that was never meant to stop anything other than air? That's just asking too much.
Now I want an alternate ending for a game where you in fact smash the glass, the bad guy looks in baffled astonishment and the game ends about 12 hours earlier.
I can think of one example of the reverse to this situation - Arkham Knight, where you get into a room to rescue someone just as the main bad guy goons show up but can't attack you because you're protected by thick glass. they also can't stop you from remotely activating the cannon on the Batmobile conveniently located behind them.
Funny you should mention that - Seanbaby once noted, in one of his articles about Hanna-Barbera's Super Friends, that force fields were Superman's secret alternate weakness. Because if he ran into one, he'd spend the rest of the episode bonking against it and wondering aloud why it wasn't working. Supes was quite the forerunner, in a lot of ways.
"Man, that's dark! I remember the innocent days..." Clearly Ellen has never seen the original animated Transformers: The Movie, which includes onscreen planetary genocide, swearing, horrifying tentacled creatures running a Kafkaesque court in which innocent and guilty alike are sentenced to death, and the murder of several of your favorite toys, including Optimus Prime.
in the beginning of Batman Arkham Origins, you watch Commissioner Loeb get gassed from the other side of some glass... remember this is a game where you can break glass, and do break this instance of glass after the cutscene
There's a moment in Resident Evil Code Veronica X where Claire encounters a scientist trappee behind glass and he's fridged off by a Bandersnatch before she can help. I mean the guy is an Umbrella Scientist so is it really a tragedy foe him to become snackfood for a monster with the munchies. (Totally got that last line from thr Power Rangers Turbo movie.)
I think my 1st example of this was when I 1st played Dead space 2 that entire 1st scene is just you watching horrible stuff behind glass and can't help.
Quake IV has a two-for-one: the first is the unnamed marine being surprised and crushed by a Grunt against the glass when you're deactivating the forcefields between the Convoy levels, and the other is the death of Medic Anderson, who's trapped behind a glass door while a Medic performs gruesome acts on him and leaves with his corpse.
FNAF has the same behind glass scenario in two SEPARATE games! Said scenario is the death of a young girl with yellow pigtails who is left outside in the rain and killed by Purple Guy, the villain found throughout the series, while you watch on as either a robot serving food or as the robot who is supposed to keep the young girl safe. I'm not sure if it counts since it's in two minigames, but I think, personally, that it's a behind-glass tragedy that needs to be mentioned.
What about Control? I remember that bit where one guy who was watching a demon fridge get turned into red goop because of said fridge and glass was there to stop you from saving that guy from the fate of death by fridge.
I always love how In all the games using these tropes that random glass Is always Bulletproof/Strong as hell when most of the others are easy to destroy… Almost seem like the people who made these places were like « Yeah we only have enough money for one bulletproof/strong glass! Let’s put it between two random rooms so if a hero is watching someone being killed/kidnapped by a vilain or watching a vilain do something bad. They won’t be able to save or stop them »
The opening sequence of Fallout 4, while yes you’ve just been awakened from cryosleep and are in a steel pod if you could have just broken that tiny glass window you could have punched Kellogg in the face
This makes me want to see a list of games where the player breaks all the glass, like in Xcom whre your soldiers love to break windows even when it's not needed, or Batman returns on the SNES, a beat-them-all where you can throw enemies through glass windows just for fun since it doesn't damage more than a normal throw IIRC
Alien: Isolation, the game where you are GLAD that there is a pane of glass between you and the horrible space monster that is eating peoples faces. Though that usually means if you can see it, it can see you, and will probably be crawling through the nearest vent to come and eat your face.
What I want to know is when id and BlueTwelve are going to get together on a game in which we play the *DoomStrayer* and go around mewing and pouncing on demons.
Did you already do good ol' System Shock 2? There's no shortage of glass pains in System Shock 2. I think my favorite is when you have to do a whole level to get through a door because dude saw you through a pane of glass coming to save him, took one look, locked the door, and ran off. I'm pretty sure the monsters got him, though it wasn't right then.
I don't think you guys or Oxbox have done an episode themed around this- But I was thinking an interesting list to make would be problematic favorite characters in games- Either NPCs, PCs or Protagonists that do countless horrible things as canon in the story, but are still beloved by the fan base regardless. My biggest example of this is the Raiden Shogun or Ei from Genshin Impact. She not only is a tyrant god who keeps her entire nation in a perpetual loop of eternity, but also left a soulless puppet to carry out that fate for her nation for her while she just lives inside her own consciousness in her dead twin sister's sword. Yes, she does eventually acknowledge her wrong doing, but that only comes after 500 years of ignoring her people and nation entirely- Overcome by grief and sadness so bad that I think she needs to see around 7 separate therapists for. People love her though because she pulls a sword from her bossom and has a real 'Step on me Mommy' air about her. (While I don't really buy into it one bit to be honest)
Here is one, in 2017 Star Wars battlefront 2, you near the end of the campaign witness your father's death through an escape pod glass in a cutscene, you play Iden Versio by the way..
Sort of a Last Action Hero type game where game characters are introduced to the real world? I can see it now. They also get strange looks when they insist there must be enemies operating in the sewers, or that it's necessary to traverse through them when you could just walk down a street or even use public transport. And that random people will mostly give you weird looks, use colorful language and/or gestures, or enlist the help of nearby police to stop your harassment if you try talking to them repeatedly to get information or just to see what more they'll say.
The audio for the Transformers game after Ellen's first scene between timestamp 9:49-9:59 is extremely loud compared to the rest of the video. I had to scramble to lower the volume a lot because of how loud it is and because it hurt my ears (RIP anyone watching this with headphones on).
Just realized Minerva's Den actually left more of an impact on me than Bioshock 2 as a whole. I mean apart from the music, I remember like all the songs.
I want a game that gives you a glass gun that is almost useless outside of the fact that breaking random lanes of glass is fun. But then a scene like this comes, and your glass gun breaks right as you try to use it, just to make you feel pain. Or should I say, PANE
What is it with Bioshock and preventing death from happening because of a window? We didn't even mention Infinite's deaths. One where Elizabeth murders Daisy Fitzroy for the sake of a dictator's son, and the other where Yi Suchong dies because it turns out Elizabeth was there the whole time separated by a glass wall. Now to be fair, they're not exactly tragedies because they're both villains (even though it turns out Daisy was just giving Elizabeth motive to kill bad guys) but wow, if I had a quarter for every time glass killed someone, I'd be Elon Musk.
What about far cry 5 where when you are in John's bunker for the first time captured by him you escape and eventually end up watching as John gives a final dramatic speech then presses a button causing a toxic bliss gas to fill the air and he gets away with Hudson as you watch behind that cursed "fragile" surface
Ah yes, the innocent days of Transformers…which lasted a bit over a year before Ultron full on ate a planet full of sentient robots including children, and several main characters of the show get killed in particularly traumatizing ways.
Don't forget Rise of the Tomb Raider when Lara's behind a glass window while Jonah confronts Konstantin. Why hadn't she wrecking-balled the place as she did throughout the rest of the game? I mean: explosive arrows?
Has anyone mentioned Fallout 4? Where at the very beginning of the game you get to watch your spouse die and you child be kidnapped while you're locked behind a cryo pod door with a nice glass pane that shows everything?
Dead space has a lot of death scene behind glass. The most frustrating part behind the glass scene was in the first game when the main antagonists revealed herself and explain all of her plan. I wanted to shot her but couldn't because of glass.
I’ve seen one instance of this trope where it’s justified. In The Darkness Jackie Estacado watches helplessly as his girlfriend is killed on the other side of a window, by the main villain. However the reason he’s helpless is that the Darkness deliberately holds him in place and makes him watch
How about tragedies that could have been prevented but the glass that prevented you from heroing before wasn't installed here. Resulting in tragedy. Such as the glass window on on ONE section on the G.F.S. Olympus in Metroid Corruption. Were an explosion breaks the glass and sends soldiers flying out into space where as shooting the glass literally anywhere else on the ship prevents you from spacing your self. Or the glass on parts of the Sprawl in dead space 2. Most windows are super strong. Some can be broken resulting in Issac loosing a few limbs. Unlike all other glass planes that won't break even when a space ship crashes next to it.
I sure can think of some more examples... An old PC game Descent has you piloting a spacecraft with a glass cockpit throughout various levels as crazed robots start killing people. Each level has hostages behind destroyable doors. One level in particular has some crazed robots in the hostage area and if you arent quick enough to destroy the door or poorly managed your ammo energy and run out your have to watch as it murders the hostages. Dead Space has several examples the first scene especially if your rushing, has a lobby area a necromorph drops in on your buddies after you move through a door. If you hang around and turn around you can see the necromorph murder some crew while they plead for someone to save them. Theres another scene i think in chapter 4 just before or just after the hydroponics bay where you find a crew member in a chair sitting but sadly the mutant plant or necromorph murders him splattering him on the glass. Re2 or re3 remake has a scene where you can see a little more of what happened in the garden area the mutant plant zombies appear in and see the fate of the poor scientist smooshed against the glass that you get the keycard from. Resident Evil Revelations has a scene or two where the npc agent in the orange uniform the one that becomes a recurring boss is attacked by a creature and appears dead and theres not a thing you can do about it. I think re4 has a scene in the science lab late where your introduced to regenerators which if you could kill it maybe just maybe you wouldnt have to fight it. Re5 also has the scene on the ship where you are stopped by glass as wesker injects the virus into excella maybe you could have saved her if you shit wesker. Prey remake also has one in the beginning where the mimic murders the lab assistants when you do the physical. Duke Nukem 3d has a scene in the 1st act 3rd level where aliens open up a curtain and watch you get electrocuted if you domt escape the chair quick enough the first act 2 level towards the end before the final area is a little bar area that has a normal human woman just chilling as you explore the bar for a key in a cupboard the cupboard locks behind you briefly if you dont get out quick the pig cops will kill the human Im sure there are more but those are all i can think of.
I guess a couple of these are debatable, but RE3 Remake also has the scene where nemesis blasts through the wall crushing the guys skull as you are on the other side of prison bars
I can't remember. Did they cover the death of Sam at the start of Halo CE, that poor console operator that got shot dead by the Covanent shortly after booting up the Chief?
System Shock 2 has a number of scenes where you see NPCs die behind glass. There is even a scene where you watch two lovers run from a tumbler; while they do get away, they are in the sequel bait at the end that involves their death; if you could have saved them from the tumbler they would have lived.
You noted Fallout 4 in the first video, but Fallout 3 commits this "paneful" sin too, as Liam Neeson dies of instant radiation poisoning in the Jefferson Memorial while you, his child, stand there gormlessly.
About the one where Pierce slowly walks into an elevator with a cell, I timed it, if Doomguy simply started running the instant he saw Olivia he would've caught up to her before she even got into the elevator, let alone before it closed, and with how frail she is, kill her in a single punch
Also, now that you guys have done TWO lists of glass apparently being impenetrable, (unless an NPC breaks it, thanks Elena). Might I vote that you do a list where video games decided that WOOD should be indestructible? Like say...State of Decay's whole deal with FENCES!!?
The only thing worse than a preventable death happening because it’s behind glass is a preventable death happening because you’re stuck in a cutscene!
Or when the when try to save someone from a preventable death the enemy end up taking no damage
@@_Lullaby15 Why ya slinking off on me ynneL? :(
..or metal gear rising. where it's both.
Even worse when you're carrying around 99 phoenix feathers or whatever that can literally bring people back to life after they were chewed up by a machine and then exploded, so it's literally impossible to not save someone; but the writers want them dead so they're just dead. 😡
The "preventable death happening because it's behind glass" is pretty much just a slightly interactive cutscene.
I humbly suggest "Times you were told exactly who the big bad evil is and didn't realize it"
I kinda wanna see what randoms we can come up with here... I feel like I've never seen it...
Wait, would Ratchet and Clank count with Captain Quark?
Mega Man six. Mr. X, my butt.
I swear, if normal glass was made of whatever the hell it's made of in these games we'd probably have a pretty significant drop of window-related issues
I dunno. In games it's either invincible adamantium glass or complete rice paper. Depends on if you are watching someone dying or throwing them through it
Polycarbonate is remarkably resilient & nearly impossible to shatter, even when paper thin, & is relatively cheap (I did my floor-to-ceiling family room windows for around $300 inc shipping & custom framing). When 3/4" thick, it's bulletproof, but still has the light transmission of glass (granted, we're talking pistols & resistance to single rifle shots rather than full automatic rifle/machine gun fire, but still)...and the very high cost would be nothing for a high security area.
Just because something looks like glass doesn't mean it's glass.
It could be used to make those glass houses everyone keeps saying is a bad idea to have.
until you need to escape a gun man or fire and just bounce back into the danger trying to jump though a window.
@@darrienjones8917 But then you invite a Jimmy Hopkins to your doorstep!
This trope has been used so many times, that now I want to see a game make the setup, but it is later in the game, when your character can break glass. Then there are two ways you can go: think that the glass cannot be broken because of the trope, don't try and watch the person die; or, realize your character is in fact strong enough to break the glass, do so, and save the person.
was just about to posit this
It would be even better if they play it straight the first time, but by the second time you've explicitly gotten strong enough to break the "reinforced" glass. Then the smirking bad guy gets up close, to taunt you.
Then the QTE button appears.
You can ignore it, but that just means your character grabs the bad guy after they turn away, to make it even more brutal.
I want one with a whole cut scene with in game graphics and perspective but that at the end of the cutscene before the death of the character you can shoot one more time to break the glass resulting in a 4th wall breaking cutscene.
The DOOM guy kinda does this in DOOM 2016 when he just starts breaking shit despite being told he can't
I think mass effect did that at some point
If you guys ever do another "Embarrassing Achievements" video, I found one in Prey when I accidentally recycled myself.
I think they did that one in one of their lists
@@seand7042 Oh, maybe I missed it lol. I only saw when they got "No Show" for dying by the helicopter blades.
@@2013Fangirl you've turn into a bunch of packets of items right?
@@seand7042 no. I'm playing a non mimic playthrough. I threw a recycler at a Phantom and didn't realize I was in the blast zone lmao.
there's one in Deep Rock Galactic where you throw yourself at a flaming hoop while drunk. It's called "Darwin Award". Best achievement ever.
I don't know if I would call Sophia Lamb's death a "tragedy", considering [SPOILER ALERT] she is the big baddie of Bioshock 2, mind-controlled you into shooting yourself in front of your daughter at the start of the game, tried to brainwash Eleanor for years, AND tried to smother her with a pillow when she refused to obey her ... oh, and the whole "trying to take over the world and end Human existence as we know it through some kind of assimiliation plot" thing, too. Sure, she IS some kind of mother figure to Eleanor, however twisted, but ...
*suddenly remembers that her death is the prelude to Eleanor going full-throttle evil and being unleashed upon the surface world with superpowers and technology far ahead of the rest of the world*
Oh, nevermind. I see it now.
Good point about that, but I think the ACTUAL moment the commenter in the first one was referring to was, in fact, Eleanor nearly being smothered because THAT happens behind glass too if I remember correctly, and I think the commenter just mixed up the names. It would make a LOT more sense because Eleanor is who Delta has been chasing this entire time, and you come SO CLOSE to reuniting -- and then Sophia pulls that, and the endgame starts with you learning you're inevitably going to die. Oof.
Shades of grey my man
Surprised you didn't mention Arkham Knight, when Scarecrow captures Oracle while imaginary Joker mocks your inability to break glass
Or Arkham origins when lobe is gassed
7 game endings that made us google the ending for an explanation.
I like this idea, but it would be very subjective, opening themselves up to comments like "That ending was obvious. What are you, morons?" etc.
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Soulsborne lore nerds
Every Playdead game
For casual Star Wars fans, probably Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II - Mysteries of the Sith, where *SPOILERS*
To finally beat the otherwise unstoppable and Dark Side-corrupted Kyle "Forcedamned" Katarn in the endgame, you (as Mara Jade, future wife to Luke Skywalker in the Legends continuity) have to accept being one with the Force (in short, death) all while hoping that her corrupted Master snaps out of his Dark Side reverie and spare her... suffice to say, she succeeds.
To lore veterans, such acceptance was already done by other characters such as Ulic Qel-Droma from the Tales of the Jedi comics, Obi-Wan Kenobi from Ep. IV, and even Cal Kestis during his final confrontation with the Jaro Tapal apparition in Dathomir from Jedi: Fallen Order, so it wasn't hard for them to figure it out.
I got to the end of a few games and had this the bioshock games (especially infinite) do big info dumps at the end of their games which made me go “wait what?!” And do a google to get a full explanation.
5:34 Ellen saying "In Doom ... you play Doom guy" with a straight face is one of the best deliveries ever.
I remember one quote from Jane, concerning hammers and "peening balls", I about fell off the couch laughing!!!
I mean, you do play as Doomguy though..
That is his canonical name though
@@mx2000 I believe his official title is Sir Remington L. Doomguy III, esq.
Especially when you actually play Link
"On the one hand - the glass has to be super tough to deal with the high water pressure at the bottom of the sea. But on the other hand - IS A BIG DRILL..."
It is this kind of writing that I adore you folks for!
Ellen: “The opening of Transformers: Fall of Cybertron can be summed up in one word…”
Me: “Loud? Because holy crap that was louder than the rest of the video.”
Yeah, that audio may have needed a rebalance there. I was playing something while listening so I couldn't turn it down, but it was like game audio went silent for that explosions and screaming montage XD
Still a great game though, alongside War for Cybertron.
Wish they get out of licensing issues hell nowadays.
yeah, she said something about "aaaahhh" and i was like "yup, 'AAAHHH' was def what i was saying as the volume stabbed me in the ears"
I expected either chaos or explosion
Ok, but in Bioshock they establish that some “glass” in the makeup of rapture is actually Rydanium - a clear steel-hard alloy used to withstand deep sea pressures.
but as they showed, big daddies can break it, and you play as one
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Maybe only the outside glass?
@@peachesplums There’s only two times Rydanium is broken. Once by a Bouncer in 1960 on a random pane and again by a Big Sister near the beginning of 2. Delta never breaks it. Also, Sofia would probably have the highest quality in front of Eleanor’s room.
Ok but heat me out DRILL ARM
My man, whose side are you on? 😂
"selling plastic crap to impressionable children" hits different just after my daughter opened all her paw patrol toys 😂😂
"Nate you have to marry this woman." I know Luke knows but that doesn't make it any less funny to me.
When he said that I literally LOL'd. I also absolutely appreciated Elena completely invalidating that entire "impotently palm slapping the glass" scene with a single small toolbox.
We all know Nate married her *because* he saw what she did to that glass.
I think DoomGuy secretly kept letting her get away so he didn't run out of demons to killerize
"eh i'll need more of them to rip and tear later i'll let her go for now.........than later rip and tear!"
I would argue that Doomguy would rather try to save the lives of the humans, but in Eternal's DLC he literally resurrected Satan just so he could fight him, so I dunno.
May we have a moment of silence for the people that died behind glass edit thanks for the 100 likes
Yes, let us raise our glasses in their honour.
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They should just make your final armor upgrade out of that glass, clearly it's indestructible!
Elder Scrolls comes close with their Light class Glass Armor.
YES!
Hey, remember in Control when you saw that guy with the Fridge? How he couldn't leave because if nobody looked at it the darn thing would do something horrible? If we were able to just break that pane of glass with our magic gun or psychic powers, we could've saved him from getting murdered by the thing inside the fridge.
Weird Al: 🎵🎶"......livin' in the fridge!!!....."🎶🎵
the worst part being that you disable the effect of the fridge only a moment later....
rip poor Philip. he never did like fridge duty
Actually that's a great point, why was it necessary to walk around the corner, the place was already in chaos and the guy in charge of watching/containing the fridge never mentioned that a sealed room was an essential part of it's containment
you wanna release a fridge version of SCP-173...I though so
There aren't many channels I hit like video unseen, but you guys deserve it. These theme lists are always great, puns, fun game memories, and a visit with the 5 of you. Thank you for all the hard work (and John and anyone else)
Nothing wrong with dying in Grimsby, it's preferable to the alternative of living there.
I'm really curious to know how a bunch of scientists managed to create glass that's able to withstand a BFG 9000
I’m sorry I just read that as Big Fucking Guy 9000 and now I must share that cause if I have to look like a giggling idiot in front of my family you have to as well.
@@Renge43 to be fair to you, it works that way too. The person wielding the BFG is fucking big and so much of a guy that it is in the name. The glass withstands him as well
By making it transparent.
To be fair, both parts in the video are before you get the BFG.
I love how Metal Gear Rising subverts this trope twice over in one scene. That game has so much to say about games while still being *such* a game.
Possible at all to have a reverse video, "times when a pane of glass saved your life?" To be honest, I mainly have in mind skipping that cutscene on the bridge of The Pillar of Autumn during "The Maw" level in Halo 1 leaving the indestructible window display up front so that the approaching sentinels are much easier to deal with (very helpful on legendary).
I've an idea for a list that I don't think you've done: 7 protagonists who look identical to more famous video game protagonists.... the name needs workshopping but I can already think of like 3 or 4
That list would be exclusively filled with Anime characters.
When Ellen talks about the innocent times of the transformers franchise I was expecting a cut the the Instruments of Destruction scene from the movie.
Or the death of Optimus Prime
2. In Bulletstorm you play a kick ass character not a kick glass one...
I'm surpised no one has mentioned Julie Langford's death in Bioshock. You spend all that time helping her save Arcadia, only to watch her die on the other side of glass.
The number of tragedies behind glass in the Bioshock series could fill a list video.
@@Leith_Crowther oh absolutely. Bioshock and invincible glass go hand in hand.
When (Bioshock Infinite spoilers) the rebel leader held a child hostage behind glass, I went ahead and resigned myself to how this was gonna go. Glad it didn’t happen that way.
@@Leith_Crowther Daisy.
Imagine if all games had realistic destruction for everything, forget just breaking the glass you'd probably take an entire building (or even space station) down by 'accident'.
I kinda want to see a scene where you look on helpless as something bad happens but then as the bad guys are leaving they lightly slam the door and the glass just falls out on it’s own.
Or maybe the protagonist leans and bangs on the glass repeatedly and then as the baddie leaves the glass falls towards him revealing that him leaning on it was all that was holding it in place the whole time.
"What if kicking?" Sounds like the perfect name for Mike Channel's autobiography.🤔
Actually Bulletstorm seems like a game Mike would really like.
This reminds me of that time Ellen kicked a bear in AC Odyssey and Mike kept talking to everyone about it like a proud Dad.😂
"That's my Ellen. She kicked a bear. What? That bear was your boy? Well..."
I assume Dark Messiah of Might and Magic gets its own chapter.
Remember in SpongeBob when Patrick and sandy were talking about kicking, that’s where my brain went when I heard this
Dead Space: Hammond's Death. A sequence plays out where a man is brutally torn apart behind a pain of glass. The monster responsible for said murder then breaks the glass and comes after you. Fun stuff!
And even later, Dr. Mercer kills Temple and Elizabeth (the logs of whom you've been finding throughout the ship like a second protagonist) right in front of you. And despite the fact you're carrying futuristic space tools that are either energy tools or could be as simple as saw blades with DIAMOND tips, you can't break the glass.
Dead Space 2, where the exploding baby blows up its mother in the school.
@@Jakespeed207 Yea, turns out Dead Space loves the "behind the glass" mechanic. lol
The unnamed scientist that was killed by the baby necromorph in the first Dead Space but also the girl that committed unalive- the exploding baby scene from the 2nd Dead Space... I'm sure there's more lmao.
@@harmonixdraws5298 Oh good call, I totally forgot that one. Could make an entire video on Dead Space deaths behind glass. :D
The Darkness when Jackie's girlfriend is executed right in front of him. Granted, he is being restrained as well, but he still couldn't, you know, kick through it or anything either.
Poor Jenny, I was thinking of this scene, too 😢 curse you, glass!
Man, they have that scene right before where they have like a nice night in together. I was young and kinda fell for her a bit, then that happened. It truly affected me. I didn't go back to the game for months and I didn't restart I just played from after that scene.
You've known her for 5 years Luke, of course she had to do the glass bit 😁
The foley for the glass banging was so good. A+ editing.
For Bioshock 2, I get the feeling the OP was actually referring to Sophia suffocating Eleanor with a pillow just before the last level but got the names switched. Also I think you meant to call the entry "Sophia's Death". That really confused me.
Damn right, I was thinking am I the only one here who actually played this game? And given that your choices do influence the outcome, as noted, you *can* prevent any tragedy. So it doesn't fit at all.
Yeah, I was referring to the part where you find Eleanor on a bed in Persephone and enter a very flimsy-looking quarantine chamber that closes a glass door in front of and behind you. You can then only helplessly watch as Sophia suffocates Eleanor with a pillow to break the bond between you.
A lot of comments about how you were weakened by a bomb, but this was before that in a part of the game where you just solo'd two big sisters at the same time, is fully decked out with gatlings n' guns n' grenades, and likely wielding every plasmid the game has to offer in their fully upgraded form (not to mention said power drill that we've seen go pretty deep into solid metal and also used to smash through barriers of concrete rubble).
But shattering a door that was never meant to stop anything other than air? That's just asking too much.
I don’t know why anyone would’ve expected Optimus to break through glass when the episode BOT shows Autobots can’t break down a wooden door
Now I want an alternate ending for a game where you in fact smash the glass, the bad guy looks in baffled astonishment and the game ends about 12 hours earlier.
I can think of one example of the reverse to this situation - Arkham Knight, where you get into a room to rescue someone just as the main bad guy goons show up but can't attack you because you're protected by thick glass.
they also can't stop you from remotely activating the cannon on the Batmobile conveniently located behind them.
"Nate, you have to marry this woman."
He does! 😁
“Oh no, I can’t possibly cut through glass” -Raiden, Metal Gear Rising Revengeance but Summarized Incorrectly
Apparently, every single video game MC's Kryptonite is glass. Who knew?
Funny you should mention that - Seanbaby once noted, in one of his articles about Hanna-Barbera's Super Friends, that force fields were Superman's secret alternate weakness. Because if he ran into one, he'd spend the rest of the episode bonking against it and wondering aloud why it wasn't working. Supes was quite the forerunner, in a lot of ways.
"Man, that's dark! I remember the innocent days..."
Clearly Ellen has never seen the original animated Transformers: The Movie, which includes onscreen planetary genocide, swearing, horrifying tentacled creatures running a Kafkaesque court in which innocent and guilty alike are sentenced to death, and the murder of several of your favorite toys, including Optimus Prime.
Additionally, to be perfectly honest, Starscream has always been portrayed as an asshole. Sometimes moreso than Megatron.
“Megatron? Is that you?”
“Here’s a hint.” (blam!)
Kid's stuff becoming all too dark = masterpiece.
Not to mention the time the Decepticons tossed all of their wounded into the vaccum of space.
@@Lionfire42 "Wa...it! I...still...function!"
"Wanna bet?" *kicks into space*
in the beginning of Batman Arkham Origins, you watch Commissioner Loeb get gassed from the other side of some glass... remember this is a game where you can break glass, and do break this instance of glass after the cutscene
There's also an instance in Arkham Knight, but it wouldn't technically count due to the entire sequence being a Scarecrow induced hallucination
So close to 1M! Been here since day one and they deserve it.
There's a moment in Resident Evil Code Veronica X where Claire encounters a scientist trappee behind glass and he's fridged off by a Bandersnatch before she can help. I mean the guy is an Umbrella Scientist so is it really a tragedy foe him to become snackfood for a monster with the munchies. (Totally got that last line from thr Power Rangers Turbo movie.)
I think my 1st example of this was when I 1st played Dead space 2 that entire 1st scene is just you watching horrible stuff behind glass and can't help.
Quake IV has a two-for-one: the first is the unnamed marine being surprised and crushed by a Grunt against the glass when you're deactivating the forcefields between the Convoy levels, and the other is the death of Medic Anderson, who's trapped behind a glass door while a Medic performs gruesome acts on him and leaves with his corpse.
Wow, surprised you didn't have the biggest one for me which is in The Darkness. I got so emotionally attached to Jenny and then... Noooooo....
They had that on one of their previous lists for this topic.
it wasnt so much the glass that stopped us from saving Jenny as the demon that possessed us
FNAF has the same behind glass scenario in two SEPARATE games!
Said scenario is the death of a young girl with yellow pigtails who is left outside in the rain and killed by Purple Guy, the villain found throughout the series, while you watch on as either a robot serving food or as the robot who is supposed to keep the young girl safe. I'm not sure if it counts since it's in two minigames, but I think, personally, that it's a behind-glass tragedy that needs to be mentioned.
The “death” of Barbara Gordon in Batman: Arkham Knight
What about Control? I remember that bit where one guy who was watching a demon fridge get turned into red goop because of said fridge and glass was there to stop you from saving that guy from the fate of death by fridge.
There's a painful one in Stasis. You CAN (and do) break the glass, but not in time.
I always love how In all the games using these tropes that random glass Is always Bulletproof/Strong as hell when most of the others are easy to destroy… Almost seem like the people who made these places were like « Yeah we only have enough money for one bulletproof/strong glass! Let’s put it between two random rooms so if a hero is watching someone being killed/kidnapped by a vilain or watching a vilain do something bad. They won’t be able to save or stop them »
The opening sequence of Fallout 4, while yes you’ve just been awakened from cryosleep and are in a steel pod if you could have just broken that tiny glass window you could have punched Kellogg in the face
I gotta look for the rest of the videos on the trope for Black Ops 1 when we get Reznov's memory back in the Arctic.
This makes me want to see a list of games where the player breaks all the glass, like in Xcom whre your soldiers love to break windows even when it's not needed, or Batman returns on the SNES, a beat-them-all where you can throw enemies through glass windows just for fun since it doesn't damage more than a normal throw IIRC
Now we need tragedies that you couldn't prevent because you left your gear somewhere else
Alien: Isolation, the game where you are GLAD that there is a pane of glass between you and the horrible space monster that is eating peoples faces. Though that usually means if you can see it, it can see you, and will probably be crawling through the nearest vent to come and eat your face.
There was also one in Star Wars Republic Commando when Sev got ambushed by a Trandoshian
Excuse me, but Ellen doing the bit behind the glass at the end was the best part!
What I want to know is when id and BlueTwelve are going to get together on a game in which we play the *DoomStrayer* and go around mewing and pouncing on demons.
7x12... there is just no way of knowing what the answer is, and Ellen is trapped behind glass, this is truly the darkest timeline for Oxtra
Did you already do good ol' System Shock 2? There's no shortage of glass pains in System Shock 2.
I think my favorite is when you have to do a whole level to get through a door because dude saw you through a pane of glass coming to save him, took one look, locked the door, and ran off.
I'm pretty sure the monsters got him, though it wasn't right then.
Dang, that was a good game. Wonder what happened to my game disk?
"oh my god I can't possibly cut through glass" - maxor's raiden
I don't think you guys or Oxbox have done an episode themed around this- But I was thinking an interesting list to make would be problematic favorite characters in games- Either NPCs, PCs or Protagonists that do countless horrible things as canon in the story, but are still beloved by the fan base regardless. My biggest example of this is the Raiden Shogun or Ei from Genshin Impact. She not only is a tyrant god who keeps her entire nation in a perpetual loop of eternity, but also left a soulless puppet to carry out that fate for her nation for her while she just lives inside her own consciousness in her dead twin sister's sword. Yes, she does eventually acknowledge her wrong doing, but that only comes after 500 years of ignoring her people and nation entirely- Overcome by grief and sadness so bad that I think she needs to see around 7 separate therapists for. People love her though because she pulls a sword from her bossom and has a real 'Step on me Mommy' air about her. (While I don't really buy into it one bit to be honest)
Seven would be the perfect number of videos on this topic. Seven videos about seven times we couldn't hero because glass.
Here is one, in 2017 Star Wars battlefront 2, you near the end of the campaign witness your father's death through an escape pod glass in a cutscene, you play Iden Versio by the way..
The Batman Arkham Series has situations like this too
The power of glass. So impenetrable, that you can't save Samuels and Taylor on separate instances in Alien: Isolation.
Honestly, I want to go into game development just to design a game where the villains are constantly surprised by the brittleness of windows.
Sort of a Last Action Hero type game where game characters are introduced to the real world? I can see it now. They also get strange looks when they insist there must be enemies operating in the sewers, or that it's necessary to traverse through them when you could just walk down a street or even use public transport. And that random people will mostly give you weird looks, use colorful language and/or gestures, or enlist the help of nearby police to stop your harassment if you try talking to them repeatedly to get information or just to see what more they'll say.
@@Brasc Absolutely! It would be a blast to shatter all the clichés in alphabetical order.
The audio for the Transformers game after Ellen's first scene between timestamp 9:49-9:59 is extremely loud compared to the rest of the video. I had to scramble to lower the volume a lot because of how loud it is and because it hurt my ears (RIP anyone watching this with headphones on).
I guess it´s for the bit cause it´s not THAT loud in the actual levels
Yay, the return of Ellen! She was gone for some episodes, I missed her
Just realized Minerva's Den actually left more of an impact on me than Bioshock 2 as a whole. I mean apart from the music, I remember like all the songs.
One thing that I absolutely detest is when you’re stuck behind glass as a character who has many many many many guns and just watches
Yes, the opening of Transformers: Fall of Cybertron can be summed up in one word: noncanon.
I want a game that gives you a glass gun that is almost useless outside of the fact that breaking random lanes of glass is fun. But then a scene like this comes, and your glass gun breaks right as you try to use it, just to make you feel pain. Or should I say, PANE
What is it with Bioshock and preventing death from happening because of a window? We didn't even mention Infinite's deaths. One where Elizabeth murders Daisy Fitzroy for the sake of a dictator's son, and the other where Yi Suchong dies because it turns out Elizabeth was there the whole time separated by a glass wall. Now to be fair, they're not exactly tragedies because they're both villains (even though it turns out Daisy was just giving Elizabeth motive to kill bad guys) but wow, if I had a quarter for every time glass killed someone, I'd be Elon Musk.
oh man I didn't realize how much I missed that piano during the opening
2:30 In that ending, it's not that your character is incapable of breaking the glass. He's incapable of wanting to.
What about far cry 5 where when you are in John's bunker for the first time captured by him you escape and eventually end up watching as John gives a final dramatic speech then presses a button causing a toxic bliss gas to fill the air and he gets away with Hudson as you watch behind that cursed "fragile" surface
Ah yes, the innocent days of Transformers…which lasted a bit over a year before Ultron full on ate a planet full of sentient robots including children, and several main characters of the show get killed in particularly traumatizing ways.
Don't forget Rise of the Tomb Raider when Lara's behind a glass window while Jonah confronts Konstantin. Why hadn't she wrecking-balled the place as she did throughout the rest of the game? I mean: explosive arrows?
Has anyone mentioned Fallout 4? Where at the very beginning of the game you get to watch your spouse die and you child be kidnapped while you're locked behind a cryo pod door with a nice glass pane that shows everything?
Dead space has a lot of death scene behind glass. The most frustrating part behind the glass scene was in the first game when the main antagonists revealed herself and explain all of her plan. I wanted to shot her but couldn't because of glass.
Whoever edited this one, amazing job with the foley at the end there!
Yeah, they frelled up during a Doomguy part, too.
I’ve seen one instance of this trope where it’s justified. In The Darkness Jackie Estacado watches helplessly as his girlfriend is killed on the other side of a window, by the main villain. However the reason he’s helpless is that the Darkness deliberately holds him in place and makes him watch
"I remember when this series was about selling plastic crap to impressionable children"
...and adults....*looks at shelf filled with Transformers*
How about tragedies that could have been prevented but the glass that prevented you from heroing before wasn't installed here. Resulting in tragedy.
Such as the glass window on on ONE section on the G.F.S. Olympus in Metroid Corruption. Were an explosion breaks the glass and sends soldiers flying out into space where as shooting the glass literally anywhere else on the ship prevents you from spacing your self.
Or the glass on parts of the Sprawl in dead space 2. Most windows are super strong. Some can be broken resulting in Issac loosing a few limbs. Unlike all other glass planes that won't break even when a space ship crashes next to it.
Curse you inconveniently placed glass windows!!
I definitely want to see as many editions of this video as possible.
Ellen: The opening of Transformers Fall of Cybertron can be summed up in one word
Me: Awesome?
Ellen: AAAAAAAAAHHHHH
Me: Close enough
I sure can think of some more examples...
An old PC game Descent has you piloting a spacecraft with a glass cockpit throughout various levels as crazed robots start killing people. Each level has hostages behind destroyable doors. One level in particular has some crazed robots in the hostage area and if you arent quick enough to destroy the door or poorly managed your ammo energy and run out your have to watch as it murders the hostages.
Dead Space has several examples the first scene especially if your rushing, has a lobby area a necromorph drops in on your buddies after you move through a door. If you hang around and turn around you can see the necromorph murder some crew while they plead for someone to save them. Theres another scene i think in chapter 4 just before or just after the hydroponics bay where you find a crew member in a chair sitting but sadly the mutant plant or necromorph murders him splattering him on the glass.
Re2 or re3 remake has a scene where you can see a little more of what happened in the garden area the mutant plant zombies appear in and see the fate of the poor scientist smooshed against the glass that you get the keycard from.
Resident Evil Revelations has a scene or two where the npc agent in the orange uniform the one that becomes a recurring boss is attacked by a creature and appears dead and theres not a thing you can do about it.
I think re4 has a scene in the science lab late where your introduced to regenerators which if you could kill it maybe just maybe you wouldnt have to fight it.
Re5 also has the scene on the ship where you are stopped by glass as wesker injects the virus into excella maybe you could have saved her if you shit wesker.
Prey remake also has one in the beginning where the mimic murders the lab assistants when you do the physical.
Duke Nukem 3d has a scene in the 1st act 3rd level where aliens open up a curtain and watch you get electrocuted if you domt escape the chair quick enough the first act 2 level towards the end before the final area is a little bar area that has a normal human woman just chilling as you explore the bar for a key in a cupboard the cupboard locks behind you briefly if you dont get out quick the pig cops will kill the human
Im sure there are more but those are all i can think of.
I guess a couple of these are debatable, but RE3 Remake also has the scene where nemesis blasts through the wall crushing the guys skull as you are on the other side of prison bars
I so desperate NEED A COPY OF FALL OF CYBERTRON
Also when Ellen started talking about "older times", my only thought was "Did you watch the movie"?
I can't remember. Did they cover the death of Sam at the start of Halo CE, that poor console operator that got shot dead by the Covanent shortly after booting up the Chief?
What about Fallout 4? In the beginning where your spouse is killed by Kellogg?
System Shock 2 has a number of scenes where you see NPCs die behind glass. There is even a scene where you watch two lovers run from a tumbler; while they do get away, they are in the sequel bait at the end that involves their death; if you could have saved them from the tumbler they would have lived.
You noted Fallout 4 in the first video, but Fallout 3 commits this "paneful" sin too, as Liam Neeson dies of instant radiation poisoning in the Jefferson Memorial while you, his child, stand there gormlessly.
11:12 for a second I thought it was going to cut to prowls death in transformers the movie (1986)
About the one where Pierce slowly walks into an elevator with a cell, I timed it, if Doomguy simply started running the instant he saw Olivia he would've caught up to her before she even got into the elevator, let alone before it closed, and with how frail she is, kill her in a single punch
Also, now that you guys have done TWO lists of glass apparently being impenetrable, (unless an NPC breaks it, thanks Elena).
Might I vote that you do a list where video games decided that WOOD should be indestructible? Like say...State of Decay's whole deal with FENCES!!?
Nobody tell Ellen about the first Transformers movie… we must protect her innocence
Ah yes, with Optimus 'Give Me Your Face' Prime XD
@@AdamusPrime24 no the 1986 movie where pretty much every first year autobot die in a violent fashion (like melted from the inside for exemple XD)
@@julienthijs1271 Oh yes! Forgot about that one XD I remember first watching it and thinking 'yay there's RatchetOHNEVERMIND' XD