Oh, another thing worth mentioning: Super Mutants. People who started with Fallout 3 got quite a surprise if they went and played the first game. In 3 if you run across a super mutant, you may have a tough fight but its winnable, even at low levels. In Fallout 1? You fucking run. It takes about 7 seconds for people who started with 3 to realize this.
etherraichu Haha! Not a chance pal. I started with FO3 ok, but I never run from supermutants when I switched to 1 & 2. It depends on what person you are. The old fight or flight instincts. Win or die, never surrender. That is my motto. Hell, I got toe to toe with the deathclaws in the Boneyard, on low level, no power armor, no energy weapons and only with that lovely sawed off hunting rifle and a shotgun. Died 50 times, literraly. But after 47 wasted stimpacks, I counted them because the last time I bought 50 stimms, after tons of ammo, I finally managed to snuff mommy deathclaw. Now that was fight! It was the first time I realised what deathlcaw really is, and how it got its name. Nothing like those pussycats in 3, 4 and NV. Respect and deep bow to the developers of this game.
with melee or a gun, you can target the deathclaw's leg. And if you get a crit and cripple them, they will run away and not fight. I won using that tactic with a lv 3 char
the 50's style thing in fallout 3 was really strange. It felt like bethesda misinterpreted what black isle was going for. So it always felt a bit off, and was hard to not notice.
The 50's style thing was around since fallout 1 and 2. The Highwayman car was a typical 1950's Cadillac-looking vehicle. The "water chip" and other tech had vacuum tubes instead of high-tech transistors. The power armor, several of the weapons all looked like something straight out of a 1950's-1960's b-sci fi flick. The comic book style loading screens from Fallout 1 was also very reminiscent of the 1950's and so on. The 1950's retro-futurist style was not introduced in Fallout 3, it was there all along.
tonedog77 Totally agree. The retro-futurism is what sets Fallout apart from all the other typicap post-apocalyptic settings. I was actually afraid that Bethesda was going to tone it down when they acquired the license. But luckily they stuck to it (even though I think Fallout 3 is the weakest game of the series, but for other reasons not related to the retro-futurist aspects)
tonedog77: Fallout 4 gets a bit undeserved amount of hate from the fans. It's not the best game in the series, but it's still very ambitious, good looking and they really improved character conversations with the voice acting among other things. And the good thing about some of Bethesdas games is that even though the dev team might fall short of some goals with their limited time frame before they have to ship, the ease of modding pretty mich guarantees that the modding community will iron out the flaws and let you get a version of the game completely to your liking. My main issue with Fallout 3 is that it's such a weak story and with the narrative isn't very controlled by the player. The story unfolds in a very "on rails"-manner, and the big last battle with liberty prime is a joke since you are essentially immortal during the entire thing (it's practically impossible to die or lose the battle even if you try). The story ending pre Broken Steel is also pathetic, and makes no sense (oh to save the wasteland you now have to commit suicide by stepping into this highly irradiated chamber for no reason. And NO! You are not allowed to ask your super mutant or ghoul companion to do it for you, even though they are immune to radiation damage because... REASONS!) Aside from that, the Wasteland is too empty. I hate how an entire "town" in Fallout 3 can basically amount to two shacks with a total population of two people, and somehow we're supposed to believe that they survived out in the middle of death claws, raiders, yao guais amd giant radscorpions all on their own. Compare this to the towns of Fallout 1 and 2 where the smallest towns had a population of around 20 - 40 people (and the larger settlements reached to around 80 people if not 100) it's quite pathetic and immersion-breaking.
I am LOVING these! The Obsidian interview and that peek into their workplace was amazing! Honestly I thought that an interview talking about the original Fallout games with some of the BlackIsle producers would've been AMAZING! And then you came through and brought that!!! That made my year! Thank you for all this awesome content!
11:01 Now that makes sense, on how hard to kill a deathclaw. To anyone who doesn't play Dnd, Tarasque is one of the hardest monsters to kill that you need a god's power to even damage it.
You say "maybe" and "I don't want to set the world on fire" have similar intros but if you listen to all their songs they practically always start with those notes
I don't get the dislike for the timer in Fallout 1. Yes, it was a bit stressful, but saving the Vault kinda should be. I remember how with TESIV: Oblivion people complained how daedric portals had no real effect on the game world and the big bad was just j*rkig off while waiting the player to do his or her moves. In Fallout 2 it was worse because of the shaman's annoying telepathic messages (that led to nothing) and the Chosen One could leave his or her tribe to be Enclaves guinea pigs for years without any consequences. And the timer was many hundreds of days, and it's not like Fallout 1 is a modern Ubisoft open world game with all the busywork.
that timer was 150 days. and i remember the times back in the days very good. having no internet and only one other friend to play the game and exchange tips, tricks, solutions and what not. it took me a good amount of time to figure out where and how to get the water chip. and even then i remember to lose a game, because i exceeded the 150 day timelimit , being on my way to vault 13 with the water chip in my inventory.
@@Pintkonan No, the issue wasn't with the 150 days water chip timer (which you can extend by sending water to the Vault throught the water merchants in the HUB). The issue was with another, invisible, timer that was related to the Master's invasion.
Hey all, as of late I have really been getting into the modding scene in Fallout 3, NV, and Fallout 4, and as an avid Fallout fan, I can confidently say I know more than most when it comes to the lore of the fallout universe, this is why I would love to see a remade version of Fallout 1 & 2. After doing some research into many of the projects that have been created involving the remaster of Fallout 1 & 2, I have notice almost all of the said projects have either been disbanded or are MIA. Due to this, I would like to take matters into my own hands, and work on remastering Fallout 1, and maybe 2 in the future, into the Fallout 4 engine. As a CS major with way too much free time on their hands, I would like to ask anyone who has experience in the field, and/or would just like to see this become reality, to message me if you would like to become part of this project. I would love to see this become a reality, and I don't plan on giving up until it does. Thank you.
Lots of classic games have mobile ports. Would be amazing to replay them on mobile. AND they would be easier to acess and if bethesda decides to remaster it they would have a lot of appeal and reach a wider audience so this way plebs dont have an excuse to not play them
I think that disparity between it is the future but the 50s aesthetic/tech vs. it is actually the 50s are really distinct in their feel and I much prefer the original Fallout's feel way more personally.
The Tarrasque influence is much clearer in the older versions of D&D (the image on the video is from D&D 5th edition) If you look at the image from the monster manual for Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd edition (which was the current version when Fall Out was made, if I'm not mistaken), the Tarrasque looks a lot more like the death claw.
The timer is awesome, Taking out the timer is the reason people probably don't remember 1 as fondly as 2. Because 1 in terms of role playing was incredibly strong despite the strict and scary restrictions.
Man Yawns: Uh no, the timer being removed is not why people loke Fallout 2 more. We like Fallout 2 more because... Well we simply got MORE of everything that made Fallout 1 good. More items to find. Bigger post-apocalyptic settlements to investigate. More factions, more people, more options in dealing with quests and problems. More contrasts and depictions of the wasteland (you literally start out as a stone age tribal, and end up as a power armored sci-fi champion) They took all the good stuff from Fallout 1 and made it even grander. That's why the fans tend to like it more. Not because Fallout 1 got it's arbitraty and exploration-reducing timer removed.
Anyone really want to see Fallout 3, Newvegas, and 4 to be remade in the turn taking, isometric style of the original games? I love the first two games!!
150 days to find a water chip was not a mistake - exceeding this time was practically impossible, but it gave a real sense of pressure that should be put on the hero in the game world.
What's with all these recent videos about Obsidian and the original Fallout? Can it be that their secret project that Leonard Boyarsky and Tim Cain are working on, have something to do with it?
I wish there were more streamlined isometric games with action points, especially for your cellphone. Fallout and Jagged Alliance are too complicated, but Shadow Watch and Hunters are too simple and involve control of too many characters. Tactics is almost the worst of both worlds because the characters are basic and you have tons of inventory and vehicle management and lopsided weapons.
I feel like the first "fact" Isnt true... Fallout was always going to be a post-apocalyptic game... It was based off of Interplays game wasteland, Infact it was supposed to be second in the series.
I never really liked the deathclaws to be honest. Ghouls, Super Mutants, Cerberii, Floaters, giant bugs, mutated venus fly traps, giant geckos, Wannamingos etc. All of these enemies made more sense with the setting to me (ok so some of them were created through FEV, but still they are more "in tune" with the themes of exposure to radiation and mutation and such). The Deathclaw just look really out of place. It looks more like some demon creature from a fantasy game (and unsurprisingly it was taken from a fantasy game) and doesn't seem to have any connection to the whole theme of radiation and mutation at all. It's not surprising that it's inclusion was a rushed decision. And the whole backstory about it being a mutated version of a Jacksons Chameleon doesn't make a lot of sense either since it doesn't have any resemblance to Jacksons Chameleon at all (not even the horns help make it look like one since they look more like curved demon/goat horns instead of the very specific look of a Jacksons chameleons horns)
Seven Proxies Maybe asthetically it doesnt fit but I always thought a badass predator like totally fits in the ecosystem and makes the gameplay way scarier and dynamic.
I know it defeats the name but I want a post-apocalypse fallout game so we could have a good look at what it was like pre-war (besides fallout 4's short intro). It would make a good telltale game also.
Watch the full interview here: th-cam.com/video/vbCxcq4Q3ws/w-d-xo.html
Eurogamer give me that dinosaur game
You talk way too fast
12:23 look at the girl at the table. shes pouring an invisble jar of milk into her cereal lol.
I'll never understand why FO1 and 2 never ported to mobile. Its a great touch screen game imo. Not that gimmick FO shelter cash grab.
Great idea
YES PLS!
bethseda didn't realize we had phones, should've called blizzard.
@@GLARebel get a bigger phone lol
Oh, another thing worth mentioning: Super Mutants. People who started with Fallout 3 got quite a surprise if they went and played the first game. In 3 if you run across a super mutant, you may have a tough fight but its winnable, even at low levels.
In Fallout 1? You fucking run. It takes about 7 seconds for people who started with 3 to realize this.
etherraichu Haha! Not a chance pal. I started with FO3 ok, but I never run from supermutants when I switched to 1 & 2. It depends on what person you are. The old fight or flight instincts. Win or die, never surrender. That is my motto. Hell, I got toe to toe with the deathclaws in the Boneyard, on low level, no power armor, no energy weapons and only with that lovely sawed off hunting rifle and a shotgun. Died 50 times, literraly. But after 47 wasted stimpacks, I counted them because the last time I bought 50 stimms, after tons of ammo, I finally managed to snuff mommy deathclaw. Now that was fight! It was the first time I realised what deathlcaw really is, and how it got its name. Nothing like those pussycats in 3, 4 and NV. Respect and deep bow to the developers of this game.
deathclaws in fonv are no joke, wtf.
The easiest deathclaws to ever exist are in 4 mate.
Deathclaws were never that hard in any of the games.
with melee or a gun, you can target the deathclaw's leg. And if you get a crit and cripple them, they will run away and not fight. I won using that tactic with a lv 3 char
#1 Did you know that Fallout didn't begin with 3??
Scrub Wave Say what!? But those mysterious games are 1st/3rd person RPG/shooters right?
Did you know that Fallout Taticts is actually a fallout game?
Here comes the brainchild.
Scrub Wave did you know bethesda didnt have the rights too fallout until fallout 3? Therefor it was the first of the bethesda fallouts
Another SPECIAL brainchild appears.
Wait... I know that Fallout 1 gameplay footage. That was my original walkthrough of it back on a former channel!
I would love a fallout 2 HD remake I was obsessed when it first came out
Theres a group of people working on a mod for fallout 4 called project arroyo you should check that out
it probably wouldn't be as good, it was good as it was
the 50's style thing in fallout 3 was really strange. It felt like bethesda misinterpreted what black isle was going for. So it always felt a bit off, and was hard to not notice.
This was the best decision in whole Fallout series.
etherraichu Seriously, I think it was kind of a minor detail with Interplay/Black Isle that Bethesda went crazy with.
The 50's style thing was around since fallout 1 and 2. The Highwayman car was a typical 1950's Cadillac-looking vehicle. The "water chip" and other tech had vacuum tubes instead of high-tech transistors. The power armor, several of the weapons all looked like something straight out of a 1950's-1960's b-sci fi flick.
The comic book style loading screens from Fallout 1 was also very reminiscent of the 1950's and so on.
The 1950's retro-futurist style was not introduced in Fallout 3, it was there all along.
tonedog77 Totally agree. The retro-futurism is what sets Fallout apart from all the other typicap post-apocalyptic settings.
I was actually afraid that Bethesda was going to tone it down when they acquired the license. But luckily they stuck to it (even though I think Fallout 3 is the weakest game of the series, but for other reasons not related to the retro-futurist aspects)
tonedog77: Fallout 4 gets a bit undeserved amount of hate from the fans.
It's not the best game in the series, but it's still very ambitious, good looking and they really improved character conversations with the voice acting among other things.
And the good thing about some of Bethesdas games is that even though the dev team might fall short of some goals with their limited time frame before they have to ship, the ease of modding pretty mich guarantees that the modding community will iron out the flaws and let you get a version of the game completely to your liking.
My main issue with Fallout 3 is that it's such a weak story and with the narrative isn't very controlled by the player. The story unfolds in a very "on rails"-manner, and the big last battle with liberty prime is a joke since you are essentially immortal during the entire thing (it's practically impossible to die or lose the battle even if you try).
The story ending pre Broken Steel is also pathetic, and makes no sense (oh to save the wasteland you now have to commit suicide by stepping into this highly irradiated chamber for no reason. And NO! You are not allowed to ask your super mutant or ghoul companion to do it for you, even though they are immune to radiation damage because... REASONS!)
Aside from that, the Wasteland is too empty. I hate how an entire "town" in Fallout 3 can basically amount to two shacks with a total population of two people, and somehow we're supposed to believe that they survived out in the middle of death claws, raiders, yao guais amd giant radscorpions all on their own.
Compare this to the towns of Fallout 1 and 2 where the smallest towns had a population of around 20 - 40 people (and the larger settlements reached to around 80 people if not 100) it's quite pathetic and immersion-breaking.
I am LOVING these! The Obsidian interview and that peek into their workplace was amazing! Honestly I thought that an interview talking about the original Fallout games with some of the BlackIsle producers would've been AMAZING! And then you came through and brought that!!! That made my year! Thank you for all this awesome content!
ORIGINAL FALLOUS FTW! The real ones.
jedenzet NV is real too, but 3 and 4 are just sad.
Tom Jackson 4 was sad, 3 was horrific.
Wish these guys did Fallout instead of Bethesda :c
Yeah
11:01 Now that makes sense, on how hard to kill a deathclaw. To anyone who doesn't play Dnd, Tarasque is one of the hardest monsters to kill that you need a god's power to even damage it.
You say "maybe" and "I don't want to set the world on fire" have similar intros but if you listen to all their songs they practically always start with those notes
Someone needs to make that crazy game that they're talking about at 2:10
19.) These 2 games are Legends.
Yes. Yes they are. But this list is titled "18 things you didn't know about Fallout 1 & 2. And we knew these games are legendary.
I don't get the dislike for the timer in Fallout 1. Yes, it was a bit stressful, but saving the Vault kinda should be. I remember how with TESIV: Oblivion people complained how daedric portals had no real effect on the game world and the big bad was just j*rkig off while waiting the player to do his or her moves. In Fallout 2 it was worse because of the shaman's annoying telepathic messages (that led to nothing) and the Chosen One could leave his or her tribe to be Enclaves guinea pigs for years without any consequences.
And the timer was many hundreds of days, and it's not like Fallout 1 is a modern Ubisoft open world game with all the busywork.
that timer was 150 days. and i remember the times back in the days very good. having no internet and only one other friend to play the game and exchange tips, tricks, solutions and what not. it took me a good amount of time to figure out where and how to get the water chip. and even then i remember to lose a game, because i exceeded the 150 day timelimit , being on my way to vault 13 with the water chip in my inventory.
@@Pintkonan No, the issue wasn't with the 150 days water chip timer (which you can extend by sending water to the Vault throught the water merchants in the HUB). The issue was with another, invisible, timer that was related to the Master's invasion.
Hey all, as of late I have really been getting into the modding scene in Fallout 3, NV, and Fallout 4, and as an avid Fallout fan, I can confidently say I know more than most when it comes to the lore of the fallout universe, this is why I would love to see a remade version of Fallout 1 & 2. After doing some research into many of the projects that have been created involving the remaster of Fallout 1 & 2, I have notice almost all of the said projects have either been disbanded or are MIA. Due to this, I would like to take matters into my own hands, and work on remastering Fallout 1, and maybe 2 in the future, into the Fallout 4 engine. As a CS major with way too much free time on their hands, I would like to ask anyone who has experience in the field, and/or would just like to see this become reality, to message me if you would like to become part of this project. I would love to see this become a reality, and I don't plan on giving up until it does. Thank you.
Did you do it???
This is really sad lost in the comment section of a video
Bethesda please PLEASE put those 2 games on mobile
Hamza Mugharbel I have a feeling it wouldn't port well, and it would have bad controls or need to be completely changed to fit mobile.
Hamza Mugharbel just download an emulator.
But of course a propper port would be great and i think would work very well
Money-Bags Modmann They are purchasible on steam man.
It could be possible since Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale have mobile ports.
Lots of classic games have mobile ports.
Would be amazing to replay them on mobile.
AND they would be easier to acess and if bethesda decides to remaster it they would have a lot of appeal and reach a wider audience so this way plebs dont have an excuse to not play them
Good video! Loved the spinning pepperoni pizza background. Pure zen.
I like how you made a mistake when you wrote mistake...
It said “mitake” btw
You should make pauses between words. Just a short onec but still.. any pause whatsoever..
"The timer was a mitake" - oh yeah, I see what you did there
Even though I started with 3, it opened the doors for 1, and 2.
even though i started with 1&2, it shut the doors for 3 and 4.
That story and plot at number 2 was better and easier to understand them kingdom hearts
1. Fallout 2
2. New Vegas
3. 1
4. 3
5. 4
6. Tactics
Angry Turtle ew, 3 was way worse than 4....
My mistake, meant to put 3 under 4
You should place Tactics over 3. It's a good game, though not an RPG but a strategy one.
QuakeGuy2002 No, Tactics was fun but 3 is still great and better imo
Imo 3 was better than 1. The first one just just a bit too empty, and had a bit too little to do.
I think that disparity between it is the future but the 50s aesthetic/tech vs. it is actually the 50s are really distinct in their feel and I much prefer the original Fallout's feel way more personally.
The Tarrasque influence is much clearer in the older versions of D&D (the image on the video is from D&D 5th edition) If you look at the image from the monster manual for Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd edition (which was the current version when Fall Out was made, if I'm not mistaken), the Tarrasque looks a lot more like the death claw.
The timer is awesome, Taking out the timer is the reason people probably don't remember 1 as fondly as 2. Because 1 in terms of role playing was incredibly strong despite the strict and scary restrictions.
Man Yawns: Uh no, the timer being removed is not why people loke Fallout 2 more.
We like Fallout 2 more because... Well we simply got MORE of everything that made Fallout 1 good. More items to find. Bigger post-apocalyptic settlements to investigate. More factions, more people, more options in dealing with quests and problems. More contrasts and depictions of the wasteland (you literally start out as a stone age tribal, and end up as a power armored sci-fi champion)
They took all the good stuff from Fallout 1 and made it even grander. That's why the fans tend to like it more. Not because Fallout 1 got it's arbitraty and exploration-reducing timer removed.
Seven Proxies and because in fallout 2 you can grab power armor from Navarro in the first half hour of the game!
Colin: I consider that cheating though. But some people like that.
Anyone really want to see Fallout 3, Newvegas, and 4 to be remade in the turn taking, isometric style of the original games? I love the first two games!!
i'd never happen. it's be a different game with same story
No. I want to see 1 & 2 made in New Vegas FPS style.
Fantastic video. I've never seen any of these facts in any Fallout video before so kudos.
150 days to find a water chip was not a mistake - exceeding this time was practically impossible, but it gave a real sense of pressure that should be put on the hero in the game world.
Make fallout great again
If I'm not mistaken, that "someone" who rearranged the letters to SPECIAL was Brian Fargo, founder of Interplay and its CEO formerly, now of inXile.
The next fallout should be about pizza and the spanish inquisition.
No one would expect that
What's with all these recent videos about Obsidian and the original Fallout? Can it be that their secret project that Leonard Boyarsky and Tim Cain are working on, have something to do with it?
Was that Alex jones at 10:26
No
I wish there were more streamlined isometric games with action points, especially for your cellphone. Fallout and Jagged Alliance are too complicated, but Shadow Watch and Hunters are too simple and involve control of too many characters. Tactics is almost the worst of both worlds because the characters are basic and you have tons of inventory and vehicle management and lopsided weapons.
I thought obsidian mostly split up after bethesda denied the possibility of making another game.
@Enclave Soldier I don't know where I got that from but I thought all the ogs were pretty much gone after fnv
tx for this video I love Fallout 1 & 2
And why are these two not on mobile... I'd like to try them.
get a pc mate
Interesting. One thing though: Black Isle did not develop Baldur's Gate. It was Bioware.
How can he say that the newer games don't capture the 50's yet future feel like theirs does if anything its the other way around.
before watching i was sure i would at least know 9 out of these 18 things. i knew 7 out of these 18 things =b
god I want them to have the licence back, Bethesda just isn't doing a good job lately
that game from 22 years ago damn it's decent
1 thing you didnt know about fallout 1 and 2 , they are better than 3 and 4.
All the fallouts had a certain charm that fallout 4 completly disregarded. I hope the new fallouts bring the fallout charm back....
you mean fallout 76? the internet MMOG? lollerblades, get ready for the trolls, dude!
Good job Chris :)
I feel like the first "fact" Isnt true... Fallout was always going to be a post-apocalyptic game... It was based off of Interplays game wasteland, Infact it was supposed to be second in the series.
it is true, there are even other settings that were planned for fallout 1 ( which wasnt named fallout at that time )
8:19
mitake
2:15-4:33 sounds like either a fever dream or an acid trip
Darn I so want to see that game they were talking about
I never really liked the deathclaws to be honest.
Ghouls, Super Mutants, Cerberii, Floaters, giant bugs, mutated venus fly traps, giant geckos, Wannamingos etc. All of these enemies made more sense with the setting to me (ok so some of them were created through FEV, but still they are more "in tune" with the themes of exposure to radiation and mutation and such).
The Deathclaw just look really out of place. It looks more like some demon creature from a fantasy game (and unsurprisingly it was taken from a fantasy game) and doesn't seem to have any connection to the whole theme of radiation and mutation at all.
It's not surprising that it's inclusion was a rushed decision. And the whole backstory about it being a mutated version of a Jacksons Chameleon doesn't make a lot of sense either since it doesn't have any resemblance to Jacksons Chameleon at all (not even the horns help make it look like one since they look more like curved demon/goat horns instead of the very specific look of a Jacksons chameleons horns)
Seven Proxies Maybe asthetically it doesnt fit but I always thought a badass predator like totally fits in the ecosystem and makes the gameplay way scarier and dynamic.
Did you say *BRAIN* Fargo? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
6:27 look? lol
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The timer was a mitake 😂😂 not sure if joking or grammartard 😂😂
cmon everyone lets face the reality that these games we never know existed before bethesda took the rights to it.
I know it defeats the name but I want a post-apocalypse fallout game so we could have a good look at what it was like pre-war (besides fallout 4's short intro). It would make a good telltale game also.
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You REALLY should talk more slowly...
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