I actually liked the Jon chapters. I like the internal politicking of the wall and one of my favorite moments is when he is accused of treason for letting in the wildlings and Jon points out the wildlings are men so they should protect them. It’s an understated hero moment for me.
The Kings prize was my absolute favorite chapter something about the mountain clans speech about saving Ned's little girl gets me so Hype Also it has the funniest Stannis moment were the Queens men want a sacrifice and Stannis tells them to "PRAY HARDER!" 😂😂😂 Stannis is such a mannis guys
Jon 4: Stannis either not knowing or acknowledging the Mountain Clans does make sense in world, as it shows the possible flaws of the Maester education system and the disconnect between Northern and Southern culture. The Clans not having castles or large settlements means they have no maester presence and therefore only represented by the writings of Maesters from Winterfell and a few other Northern castles. These maesters may take little interest in the Clan histories and society until they come into contact with their lords hold. We also don't know how much contact Stannis had with the Northern lords after the lifting of Storms End, or to which Lords he would chose to socialise with, so it is possible thar he may have been taught to recognise the house sigil by the maesters but have no real context of whom the current lord or people are like. On a writing point GRRM could be showing Stannis testing Jon to see if he did learn how to rule the North from Ned and therefore could be trusted as a competent lord of Winterfell, or GRRM could be using it to show Stannis is ignorant of Northern culture but is willing to take advice and learn in order to improve his strength.
I think that the maesters who are assigned to certain castles probably have a specialty for that region maybe. Cause if you are assigned to the north and know more about vale politics than you are at a disadvantage. I think if stannis was asked about petty lords in the stormlands he would know all about them but small lords with no keeps in the vast north that’s doubtful.
Stannis could have been testing Jon with the mountain clans talk. Like, he knew of their existence, and maybe even knew they could be helpful allies, but wanted to see if Jon would be forthcoming in this. He still doesn't know Jon super well at this point. They've had some interactions, and he knows Jon as the son of Ned Stark, but this is a chance for Stannis to see what Jon knows, how much he is willing to share. If Jon doesn't mention the mountain clans, does that mean he's offering "half his loyalty"? The Mannis is no dummy. This could all be subtle info gathering on Jon's character. I'll have to reread that part again to be sure.
This was my thought too - after all, Stannis is specifically lining Jon up for the next Lord of Winterfell. He needs to be sure that this man understands the lands and also that he is keeping nothing back.
That’s what I thought. Preston is funny. He’ll pick up on really obscure, philosophical meanings that would go way over my head yet, walk right passed the easy ones.
And there is also the chance that Stannis might not remember every man in Ned's party from 16 years back, or at least does not remember them precisely. You try remembering something like everyone who came at a new year's eve party 16 years ago.
There would be merit to testing Jon's loyalty, but not by presenting yourself as a total dumbass. Imagine you're invading Iraq, talking to some local tribal head, and he goes 'and yeah, you talked to the Kurds?' Now, would it make sense to test his loyalty by going 'the Kurds? I only see a bunch of mountains there my dude, what's a Kurds?' Because at that point you might just convince the guy you don't even know what part of the world you just invaded, and that is not the image Stannis is trying to project. He's not hiding his knowledge about small specific detail, he's not acting as if he has general knowledge but isn't an expert, he's pointing at a part of the map that stretches for hundreds of kilometers, and saying 'what, there's people living there? I didn't know that.' That's just plain stupid, and considering he wants to impress Jon and turn him to his side, that doesn't make sense. Even if he genuinely had zero knowledge about it, it's just such a giant stretch of land with nothing making it inhospitable to life, that if a map showed no castles, forts or towns there, anyone with two brain cells would assume that the map is wrong or lacking. Imagine a French crusader trying to test the loyalty Slavic nobility by saying 'oh, you mean you have other cities than Kiev? They weren't on my map! How strange!' Real smart move.
Tyrion IV is one of my all time favourite chapters in all of ASOIF. I really love the chapters where "nothing happens" - where it's usually just the characters travelling from one location to the next and you get to see and "experience" Planetos "firsthand" - and this is one of the very best (with the Brienne travelling chapters in A Feast for Crows that feature Nimble Dick and Septon Meribald and Dog also massive favourites). It's pure bliss to have Tyrion so unexpectedly contented given his uncertain circumstances at that point, while at the same time physically struggling from detoxing from his alcoholism. The Rhoyne is painted so beautifully by GRRM and the sense of place is just wonderfully conveyed. I've always found Essos more interesting than Westeros, and to have Essos's terrain experienced through the eyes of a Westerosi is unexpectedly marvelous. I also love all of Dany's chapters in A Dance with Dragons. They are so entertaining and something unexpected or interesting - or both - always happens. I especially love the last chapter, where she's in the Dothraki Sea, experiencing diarrhea and possibly a miscarriage or her period, before Drogon flies overhead and they encounter the Dothraki. Dany's mind is probably my favourite perspective in ASOIAF, because she's so bright, always conscious of her intentions, compassionate and yes, funny; but at the same time also just a giant earnest doofus. I know the mentally scarred characters and the ones with obvious antisocial disorders constitute most fans' idea of great writing - and Theon and Cersei etc. are great, don't get me wrong - but the way GRRM succeeds in making a genuinely good and mentally stable person (for the most part) who wishes to do well so fascinating is in my opinion a harder task.
Westeros is huge, the Mountain Clans are far far away and Stannis won't know all the people that went south with Ned. Wasn't he at Storms End the whole time? So it's pretty realistic that He wouldn't know where the Mountain Clans live
@@ashtton_tapiwa That’s pretty stupid, it’s a medieval world, most people probably don’t have castles on their maps. There are also probably hundreds of variations of maps.
Ya to me it’s not too far fetched he doesn’t know them. Cause a wull was with Ned but I can’t imagine he would have a conversation with him seeing as he is WAY below stannis’ station.
I think you got the clues right but the conclusion wrong when it comes to Locusts. Dany *was* the target. The issue at hand is that *killing* Dany wasn't the target. Shavepate could give her poisoned locusts, food he knew Hizdahr would refuse, to make Dany suspiciously ill and then accuse Hizdahr of poisoning her. Egzamined locusts would be poisoned and Hizdahr would be the one who refused to eat them. That's Shavepate's ticket to power.
The Varamyr Six Skins prologue and the 1 Melisandre chapter we get are 2 of my favourite chapters in the whole series due to how unique their perspectives are and the insight they give us into some of the supernatural aspects. Really hoping for a couple more Melisandre povs
Totally agree I love the one off pov chapters like Melisandre. I have to agree though all of ghost in winterfell is amazing (the plot line). It’s a great genre change into a murder mystery, lady Dustin’s confession in the script and the tension of Stannis looming.
Hands down 2 of my favorite chapters, learning about hagan and his rules for wargs and skinchangers and melosandra,s tricks she uses along with her magic.
Agreed on Theon and Jon. But I feel like I'm the only person who enjoys Daenerys' chapters. They're not necessarily the most exciting, but from a potential story arc, I'm most intrigued by the potential for Stannis v Dany and even if she turns out to be a just ruler, how will Stannis handle her claim to the iron throne. I also like the whole idea of Dany honing her craft in Meereen.
I like Dany chapters too in Dance, but I don't think Dany vs Stannis is ever happening. She currently has to deal with the Dothraki, then consolidate her power in Meereen, then pass through Volantis (probably Pentos as well), then deal with Aegon in Westeros and perhaps Euron as well. By the time she cleans up the south, I'm guessing Stannis will already be dead in the North. Remember, we only have two books left to finish the story, and all this isn't even factoring in the battle with the WW. Still, it would be fascinating to hear what Stannis would have to say about Danys claim and what sort of justifications he would use to deny it.
The Dany chapters are work. Grrm foes a great job if leaving me feeling lost in an inscrutable other culture. The mereen intrigue doesn't quite pull me in until Queens Hand /barrister pulls the coup.
I love the Kingbreaker chapter. Barristan and Skahaz banter and then Barristan's doubts and thoughts are quite nice. And the fight with Khraaz is just amazing
I’m sure Carmine is already on top of this, but it’d be great if you do videos like this for all the books (and bottom 10 too). It’s so nice to hear these long conversations you guys have!
My vote: all of Theons chapters in ADWD I think that story line is a masterpiece. followed by Ashas chapters particularly those that involve Stannis march on Winterfell. Victorians chapter on the Shield Islands. The Prologue due to the sheer creepy nature of it. Last but not least, the Epilogue, this is a chapter that never gets old or boring for me.
Good list all-around! I'd argue that the prologue and at least one of the JonCon chapters deserve to be on the list, as they're fantastic, but these are without a doubt fantastic chapters.
Awesome. I'd be interested to know your favourite chapters for the other books as well, especially _A Feast For Crows._ I'm rereading that book and _A Dance with Dragons._ I'd list my favourite chapters of your _The Winds of Winter_ fanfiction...when it's done.
I was surprised to find that Feast has some of my favourite chapters of the series when doing my re-read. I'd be curious to hear his favourites as well. I think my favourite chapter of the whole book was the final Sam chapter.
Victarion chapters are a trip into a mind of a person with IQ of at best 80 and a pretty specific sense of morality. Cersei chapters are a trip into a mind of a person with IQ of 110, who thinks her IQ is 120 and tries to do scheming that requires IQ of 130.
That’s generous with Cersei. She makes some seriously boneheaded moves in feast. Jon I would say has a high iq since he thinks in extremely 3 dimensional ways. He applies creative experience and actually applies the scientific method to the corpse he’s trying to see turns into a wight. Intelligence is marked with a curiosity about the world. Stupid people tend to not be able to acknowledge the worth of a diverse number of experiences
@@MyUserTubeAccountCersei isn’t as smart as she thinks she is, but you have no idea what you’re talking about if you seriously think she has an IQ of 90. 90 is what an absolute moron would have.
Seems like 2023 will come to an end before we'll get The Winds of Winter. Even after a decade since reading ADWD, still curious to see the follow-up involving Wyman Manderly, Davos Seaworth, ̶R̶e̶e̶k̶ Theon Greyjoy & Winterfell (along with an dizzying amount of other POV & 'side' characters). Nostalgia (for simpler times). How time flies... Cheers from the Netherlands!
Very good list. But no "Wayward Bride"? That chapter is one of my absolute favorites in Dance. I know the sex scene is kind of cringy but once the Mountain Clans attack and you get those beautiful descriptions of the Ironborn fighting this neverending onslaught of Clansmen in the forest with the moonlight shining above, it's just enthralling.
I feel like the showrunners did Stannis dirty, because he was more popular than Dany. In the same episode, we saw Dany ride a dragon in an epic moment, and Stannis burn his daughter in a monsterous moment. Book Stannis has shown enough backbone and character, that he wouldn't resort to human sacrifice that quickly. And we know that things like Ramsay and Ser Twenty Goodman burning down the camp, won't happen in the book. Yes, Stannis may lose in Winds of Winter, but I feel that he won't go out like a total monster.
The showrunners admit they did not like stannis. It shows that stannis’ heroic and softer moments ( cart before the horse, renlys peace, Jon council scenes) are completely omitted from the story.
@@tenkenroo Ironically the actor and the source material together were so good, that even though they made him more of a dick in the show, he was still a fan favorite character up to his last 2 eps. That's how strong the Mannis was.
To each their own. I really like all the Jon chapters. Sometimes on rereads I would skip Tyrion and Dany, but I would never skip the Jon or Theon or Asha chapters.
I feel like Reek I, Davos IV, Cersei I, and The Griffin Reborn all could've been on here. Dance has so many great chapters to choose from even though the quality of the overall book is a bit inconsistent.
Re: poison locusts. This is actually a parallel to the scene where Tyrion doses Cersei’s wine. There isn’t any want to kill, but to get her out of the way for a couple of days.
Love that this came out as I’m finishing a Dance reread, and yea honestly can’t really disagree with any of these picks. I don’t remember The Dragontamer as much and looking forward to rereading it
Lol, we see Quentyn being burned from his own pov, then in Barristan's chapter he supposedly dies and we know his companions were imprisoned, but according to Preston we're told nothing about what happened.
I just found out recently that Shade of the Evening is made from Shadewood trees that have black bark and blue leaves. I assume "Jojen paste" is the equivalent of shade of the evening. I wonder if that means there's a "shadewood net" and a Bloodraven equivalent out beyond the 5 forts. Also, I'm guessing the House of Black and White's doors are made of weirwood and shadewood. I wonder if that means that the faceless men's power is some weird combination of both side's magic.
The Shade of the Evening equivalent to Weirwood net is the House of the Undying. Both are magic locations with strange trees where POV characters trip balls and get sent visions from a shadowy collective with mysterious allegiances and motivations. Dany leading to the downfall of the Undying and being hunted by warlocks will probably be paralleled eventually with Bran and the Children/Bloodraven.
@@xenosaga8436 I think the warlocks parallel the Children, and Bloodraven parallels the Undying. The warlocks give Dany the Shade drink, just like the Children give Bran the Weirwood paste. The Undying, meanwhile, are the ones who claim they sent the red comet to Dany to show her the way. Bloodraven says similar things about waiting for Bran since he was a babe and sending him visions. If the parallel holds up, the fact that the warlocks vow to get revenge on Dany after Drogon kills the Undying is interesting. Maybe Summer kills Bloodraven and the Children turn on Bran and company? You can speculate about GRRM parallels for days.
Tyrion on the shy made is up there dor me. I love how he figures out about Aegon and Jon con. The horn doesn't something the dude that blew the horn was cooked from the inside and dropped dead!
@@blaubeer8039 No reread the chapter again tyrion kept calling Griff my lord because he figured out he was joncon and he knew young Griff was important because a sell sword welp has a master of arms, half a maester, and a septon to train him in secret for something. Tyrion knows young Griff was extremely important he just didn't know why. When the stone men attack he told young Griff to get below deck because if he dies everything is lost. Aegon said to joncon he knows who I am and tyrion says I do now for sure. Tyrion didn't know he was prince Aegon Targaryen until the cyvass game but he put most of it together on his own. Tyrion is very clever.
@@tenkenroo I'm lucky to have only started reading about 5 years ago. I shudder to think what it would be like if I hadn't been a 10 y/o when ADWD came out.... I'd be frothing at the mouth
@@tenkenroo Honestly, though. If GRRM is 75% done, and he's been more productive since 2019 than he was before that point, I think it's safe to say that as of January 2023 we're 9-14 months from completion and publication. Martin writes quicker as he gets closer to the endings of his books.
Ok, so with Kingbreaker I beg to disagree. I think that Selmy made the decision to take down Hizdarh earlier when he saw how Hizdarh had reacted to Groleo's head being sent by Yunkish. Selmy compared Hizdarh reaction to the behaviour of the three Westerosi kings: Jaehaerys, Aerys and Robert. He thought that these three kings would be outraged (albeit in different manner) while Hizdarh is... kind of... surprised and... mildly displeased. It seems to me that Selmy thought that Hizdarh is a traitor, a puppet king that had conspired with Yunkai yet was betrayed by Yunkish. Or, even if Hizdarh isn't a traitor, according to Selmy he is unfit to rule. When you read this part of the text, it seems that Selmy considered Hizdarh to be a worse ruler than Aerys. Which is saying much. Of course, it is a paradox that Selmy judges Hizdarh according to the Westerosi standards. Indeed, he has no idea how should Meereenese ruler behave in such a situation. Yet it is still my belief that it's Hizdarh behaviour that mainly motivated Selmy to take him down.
I'm listening to the "Ball of Beasts" version of the combined books again and one of my goals is to really focus on Mereen and the Shave Pate and Hizzdar and a that so I want to see if I get a different impression now. I always assumed Hizdar _was_ guilty because when Baristan confronts him he completely breaks down in fear and basically admits to working with the SotH. If he was innocent then why wouldn't he adamantly assert it and deny the charges?
The Aeron chapter thats narrated like a sermon is one of the best ones to me. I love the King Breaker chapter. That fight with Kraz was pretty awesome. Just seeing how Barriston is so intelligent when it comes to fighting but not much else
I think the first half of Tyrion Chapters up to meeting Jorah were really fun . Offered too much to the story with Griff's storyline and to the whole lore with the new destinations . Also the first " Reek " chapter is as good as it's unsettling and disturbing . " The Griffin Reborn " chapter is one I really enjoyed too , getting inside Cunnington's mind to see his inner thoughts and motives was really interesting .
Quick note on his Honorable Mention (Jon IV): House Norrey, Flint, Wull, etc. are far from being major houses that fought in Robert’s Rebellion; they’re so unbelievably minor. The major houses in the war would be the obvious ones (I.e., Baratheon, Stark, Targaryen, Arryn, Tully, Martell, Tyrell, Redwyne, Tarly, Lannister at the last minute). Nobody knows or cares what the mountain clans did during Robert’s Rebellion. Plus, Stannis didn’t really fight alongside the Northmen all that much since he was getting sieged at Storm’s End for the majority of the war. And since they are just considered at best “petty lords” and not a part of the Great houses or minor houses of the realm, Stannis probably wouldn’t have known or cared about the self-identified “mountain clans”. I totally buy that Jon had useful information about the North (his home) that Stannis understandably just wouldn’t have known about. Also, the moment really wasn’t put there to make Jon look cool necessarily; it was there to show that Jon was definitely allowing his bias guide his decision to help Stannis against the Boltons, the house that killed his brother.
A Norrey was Cregan Stark's wife and the house marches with Robb. Stannis, the man who knows every house in Westeros and who was raised by a maester, wouldn't know about House Norrey?
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin The way I see it is that there are 3 different classifications of noble houses in Westeros. First, you have your Great Houses, which would be the Lords Paramount of each respective kingdom (i.e. Stark, Lannister, Baratheon, Tully, etc.). Second, you have your minor houses, which are the main supporting houses of each kingdom (Manderly, Swyft, Dondarrion, Frey, etc.). I think maesters are really only concerned with these two types of houses when it comes to their education, as well as what they teach lords, ladies, and lordlings. The third and final type of noble house would be the petty lords. These are the houses that are barely highborn and their seats are usually holdfasts and the sort. Maybe Cressen didn’t busy himself with the petty lords of each kingdom. He probably did for the petty lords of the Stormlands because they were the ones Robert, Stannis and Renly would need to know. Just like how Luwin told the Stark boys and Jon about House Norrey, Flint, Wull and so on. Petty lords only really matter to the noble houses that rule over those specific petty lords. As far as that quote stating that Stannis knowing every house in Westeros, I think that’s more hyperbole than anything. I could believe that he might know the strength of every Great and minor house of the realm, but not necessarily the petty lords. Plus, the Norreys, Wulls, Flints and so on are more commonly thought as “mountain clans” than petty lords. Like I said, they are barely and only technically highborn. And they look completely different from any other “noble” house we’ve before, as showcased in the Wayward Bride chapter. They’re more wildling than highborn. But I appreciate the discussion, love the list by the way!
sorry but the only dish that Hizdar says is delish out of all of them was the locusts. Him not liking spicy food himself is not an excuse as it was the only dish he recommended to Dany. "Those are very tasty," advised Hizdahr. "You ought to try a few yourself, my love. They are rolled in spice before the honey, so they are sweet and hot at once."
1. A ghost in Winterfell 2. Theon I 3. Cersei II 4. Davos IV 5. Reek II 6. The King’s Prize 7. Reek III 8. Varamyr Sixskins 9. Jon Con II 10. Melisandre
Sure. But his surviving after eating the entire bowl does strongly suggest that the attack was intended to incapacitate rather than kill. Unless the poisoner was as stupid as Prince Yusupov. (Just been thinking about Rasputin again after watching the Dr Who special).
Yeah this video pretty much underscores why I do my best to pretend that the show never happened. Because they pretty much adapted everything through ASOS and then started doing their own dumb fan fiction. It’s why I can’t take seriously anyone who acts like the books are going to have the same ending - or even close to the same ending - as the show. I mean, they’re wildly different from AFFC onwards to the point where the show barely resembles those last two books at all.
@@ceilingfanenthusiast6041 No, it's Theon in the dungeons of the Dreadfort remembering how Ramsay tortured his identity out of him. First time we've seen Theon since the sack of Winterfell in ACOK. It's a tremendous portrait of the human mind cracking under abuse.
@@aaronginsberg4993 oh right. I just saw the words "1st chapter" and didn't realise they meant in Dance. I love that chapter :) I had it spoiled for me long in advance but seeing Theon's physical transformation and broken, subservient persinality was horrifying.
Idk how to find more info on this but maybe someone also noticed this. It seems like there is always a description of how long it took for a dragonrider to get back on land in the first time they mount it, like it takes some time to connect or something. Maybe explain why Aerea eventually managed to fly back with Balerion
Reek's/Theons Chapter are the best in the book. The Lost Lord is very Underrated due to the Heavy Civil War Themes/Confederate comparisons you can relate and see with The Golden Company. Victarion's/Asha chapters are very enjoyable to read and did a great job setting up the Ironborn Factions after the Crowning of Euron. Daenerys Chapter's are very boring tbh.
The horn seems to have the ability to burn people. Personally I love your idea of the horn being a people tamer rather than dragon-tamer and think it fits GRRMs style perfectly. Finding lost tech, but not fully understanding its use feels like total George.
Preston when you’re done the fanfic I’d love for you to write about Stannis’ adventures in the Mountain Clan mountains. One long chapter about him having to schmooze The Wull and The Norrey and all the other The’s
I do like the Xaro chapter with dany in ADWD tbh- or is it the danny chapter with Xaro lol Also the first like 4 Tyrion Chapters are quite interesting for me- up until he gets to the boat- can never remember the name. Aegon’s reveal is really well done in my opinion. I also do like the Theon ones too
aren't kevan and pycelle killed by qiburn during the explosion of the sept. he's presented as the new varys with control over the little birds ig thats the epilogue in the show
He offers up the locas dispite not liking spicy food, yet he says there delicious. WTF is preston on, Barristan is an awesome character, this guy is putting clues together himself. Preston needs to reread the book, overanalyzing shit wayyy too much.
This is perfect for me, I just finished the audiobook on Monday, anyone who hasn't heard Roy Dotrice read and act out these books should go do that, it was amazing
As a meaningless but fun thing to do, could you do a 'what would these Game of Thrones characters do if they were in the same situation as their House of the Dragon counterparts? Who would they support, if any?'
I was interested to learn that PJ believes the horn has no powers. Considering it has glowing glyphs, a sound that touches the soul, and it immolates the blower to death and makes him bleed, we have to admit it is magical, and is doing something. I was very compelled by PJs original notion that it bound people. It would make sense since the blower dies, therefore the only people who can use the horn are people who own people: slavers. However, nowadays I am thinking it does bind dragons. Why? Because there are three dragons, and therefore they have to be divided amongst three sides. Dany will have Drogon, Viserion will be owned by the Others. But rhaegal? I think he will be bound by the Ironborn. He’s green, and they represent the sea. David Lightbringer brilliantly unpacks the recurrence of Green Sea / green sea dragons thought the series. After the Ironborn are finished with him, it’s possible Jon may possess him.
When you say the chapter in your honorable mention you state Stannis should know about the mountain clan because they rode with Ned stark in the rebellion and that the scene was only meant to make jon look cool. If I’m not mistaken Stannis spent the entire Rebellion defending dragonstone from high gardens lord and wouldn’t know of every single house that rode with the north. He also wouldn’t have been there for the battle of the trident but I only read the books once, Somebody correct me if im wrong. (If I’m right jon is just cool and Stannis lame as always suck it king of nothing!!!)
Nah you are correct. Stannis was stuck at the siege of storms end for the war of five kings. The only chance he would have to meet one of the mountain clans was a wull in neds crew that rode to dorne but he would not have stayed long and doubtful stannis would talk to a lord so below his station. After the siege stannis was instructed to head to dragonstone to capture dany and viserys.
My recommendation: Prepping For Winter/Overanalyzing House of the Dragon except for instead of reading into every word of text in a shit book like Fire and Blood, you do the best chapters in Dance. It would be difficult and extremely time consuming to do any more than a few chapters but maybe if you did the two epilogues or the all prologues, that would be some good content. Love your videos
Wait they didn’t do the Epilogue in GoT? I think I mandela effected myself hard, I can see the scene in my head. I guess I just imagined it with the show actors when I read it. Do the little birds murder someone or am I misremembering that too?
Tyrion, on one hand has my favorite chapters in this book (any of them where he is with Faegon's group) while on the other hand almost putting me to sleep with some of his later chapters with Penny
Battles contain a young kid who gets his guts spilled out and cries for his mother, in Essos he would say “Myssa”. The horn makes everyone silent and then chant a single name, except a poor kid whose guts are spilt out. Dragons will fly, probably with gender reversed Dany and Jon fakes riders: Pretty Maris and Quentyn in a dress, maybe Sweets. Daenerys will win her armies to conquer with not even being there…
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If Daenerys having explosive diarrhea isn't in the top 3 I'm unsubscribing
You have been warned
I wish George had left that unresolved. How great would it be if for the entire rest of the series Dany had explosive diarrhea ruining her plans??
@@coachmcguirk6297 The more she conquered Westeros, the more she shat.
@@coachmcguirk6297 last sentence of the lasst chapter, btw Dany had diarrhea through all the books lol
I actually liked the Jon chapters. I like the internal politicking of the wall and one of my favorite moments is when he is accused of treason for letting in the wildlings and Jon points out the wildlings are men so they should protect them. It’s an understated hero moment for me.
Yes, and he's reciting the bows and asking them where does it say that the free folk are the enemy
The Kings prize was my absolute favorite chapter something about the mountain clans speech about saving Ned's little girl gets me so Hype
Also it has the funniest Stannis moment were the Queens men want a sacrifice and Stannis tells them to "PRAY HARDER!" 😂😂😂 Stannis is such a mannis guys
Jon 4: Stannis either not knowing or acknowledging the Mountain Clans does make sense in world, as it shows the possible flaws of the Maester education system and the disconnect between Northern and Southern culture. The Clans not having castles or large settlements means they have no maester presence and therefore only represented by the writings of Maesters from Winterfell and a few other Northern castles. These maesters may take little interest in the Clan histories and society until they come into contact with their lords hold.
We also don't know how much contact Stannis had with the Northern lords after the lifting of Storms End, or to which Lords he would chose to socialise with, so it is possible thar he may have been taught to recognise the house sigil by the maesters but have no real context of whom the current lord or people are like.
On a writing point GRRM could be showing Stannis testing Jon to see if he did learn how to rule the North from Ned and therefore could be trusted as a competent lord of Winterfell, or GRRM could be using it to show Stannis is ignorant of Northern culture but is willing to take advice and learn in order to improve his strength.
Totally agree. Stannis could just be testing Jon. And plus GRRM needs to explain it to the reader. And maybe Stannis does not know everything.
I think that the maesters who are assigned to certain castles probably have a specialty for that region maybe. Cause if you are assigned to the north and know more about vale politics than you are at a disadvantage. I think if stannis was asked about petty lords in the stormlands he would know all about them but small lords with no keeps in the vast north that’s doubtful.
Stannis could have been testing Jon with the mountain clans talk. Like, he knew of their existence, and maybe even knew they could be helpful allies, but wanted to see if Jon would be forthcoming in this. He still doesn't know Jon super well at this point. They've had some interactions, and he knows Jon as the son of Ned Stark, but this is a chance for Stannis to see what Jon knows, how much he is willing to share. If Jon doesn't mention the mountain clans, does that mean he's offering "half his loyalty"? The Mannis is no dummy. This could all be subtle info gathering on Jon's character. I'll have to reread that part again to be sure.
This was my thought too - after all, Stannis is specifically lining Jon up for the next Lord of Winterfell. He needs to be sure that this man understands the lands and also that he is keeping nothing back.
That’s what I thought. Preston is funny. He’ll pick up on really obscure, philosophical meanings that would go way over my head yet, walk right passed the easy ones.
And there is also the chance that Stannis might not remember every man in Ned's party from 16 years back, or at least does not remember them precisely. You try remembering something like everyone who came at a new year's eve party 16 years ago.
That is a wise idea. Given all the crazy things going on. I'm betting Stannis would actual do what your saying.
There would be merit to testing Jon's loyalty, but not by presenting yourself as a total dumbass.
Imagine you're invading Iraq, talking to some local tribal head, and he goes 'and yeah, you talked to the Kurds?' Now, would it make sense to test his loyalty by going 'the Kurds? I only see a bunch of mountains there my dude, what's a Kurds?' Because at that point you might just convince the guy you don't even know what part of the world you just invaded, and that is not the image Stannis is trying to project.
He's not hiding his knowledge about small specific detail, he's not acting as if he has general knowledge but isn't an expert, he's pointing at a part of the map that stretches for hundreds of kilometers, and saying 'what, there's people living there? I didn't know that.' That's just plain stupid, and considering he wants to impress Jon and turn him to his side, that doesn't make sense. Even if he genuinely had zero knowledge about it, it's just such a giant stretch of land with nothing making it inhospitable to life, that if a map showed no castles, forts or towns there, anyone with two brain cells would assume that the map is wrong or lacking. Imagine a French crusader trying to test the loyalty Slavic nobility by saying 'oh, you mean you have other cities than Kiev? They weren't on my map! How strange!' Real smart move.
Tyrion IV is one of my all time favourite chapters in all of ASOIF. I really love the chapters where "nothing happens" - where it's usually just the characters travelling from one location to the next and you get to see and "experience" Planetos "firsthand" - and this is one of the very best (with the Brienne travelling chapters in A Feast for Crows that feature Nimble Dick and Septon Meribald and Dog also massive favourites). It's pure bliss to have Tyrion so unexpectedly contented given his uncertain circumstances at that point, while at the same time physically struggling from detoxing from his alcoholism. The Rhoyne is painted so beautifully by GRRM and the sense of place is just wonderfully conveyed. I've always found Essos more interesting than Westeros, and to have Essos's terrain experienced through the eyes of a Westerosi is unexpectedly marvelous.
I also love all of Dany's chapters in A Dance with Dragons. They are so entertaining and something unexpected or interesting - or both - always happens. I especially love the last chapter, where she's in the Dothraki Sea, experiencing diarrhea and possibly a miscarriage or her period, before Drogon flies overhead and they encounter the Dothraki. Dany's mind is probably my favourite perspective in ASOIAF, because she's so bright, always conscious of her intentions, compassionate and yes, funny; but at the same time also just a giant earnest doofus. I know the mentally scarred characters and the ones with obvious antisocial disorders constitute most fans' idea of great writing - and Theon and Cersei etc. are great, don't get me wrong - but the way GRRM succeeds in making a genuinely good and mentally stable person (for the most part) who wishes to do well so fascinating is in my opinion a harder task.
Westeros is huge, the Mountain Clans are far far away and Stannis won't know all the people that went south with Ned. Wasn't he at Storms End the whole time? So it's pretty realistic that He wouldn't know where the Mountain Clans live
Considering they don't have castles on a map yeah I can buy this.
@@ashtton_tapiwa That’s pretty stupid, it’s a medieval world, most people probably don’t have castles on their maps. There are also probably hundreds of variations of maps.
Ya to me it’s not too far fetched he doesn’t know them. Cause a wull was with Ned but I can’t imagine he would have a conversation with him seeing as he is WAY below stannis’ station.
The King's Prize is honestly one of the most underrated chapters in the series, glad to see it here
I think you got the clues right but the conclusion wrong when it comes to Locusts. Dany *was* the target. The issue at hand is that *killing* Dany wasn't the target. Shavepate could give her poisoned locusts, food he knew Hizdahr would refuse, to make Dany suspiciously ill and then accuse Hizdahr of poisoning her. Egzamined locusts would be poisoned and Hizdahr would be the one who refused to eat them. That's Shavepate's ticket to power.
The Varamyr Six Skins prologue and the 1 Melisandre chapter we get are 2 of my favourite chapters in the whole series due to how unique their perspectives are and the insight they give us into some of the supernatural aspects. Really hoping for a couple more Melisandre povs
Totally agree I love the one off pov chapters like Melisandre. I have to agree though all of ghost in winterfell is amazing (the plot line). It’s a great genre change into a murder mystery, lady Dustin’s confession in the script and the tension of Stannis looming.
The prologue is amazing. The book starts very strong and revels something we didn't know
Hands down 2 of my favorite chapters, learning about hagan and his rules for wargs and skinchangers and melosandra,s tricks she uses along with her magic.
Hard agree.
I also love the Melisandre chapter- however after many rereads I have to admit it dosent advance anything
Agreed on Theon and Jon. But I feel like I'm the only person who enjoys Daenerys' chapters. They're not necessarily the most exciting, but from a potential story arc, I'm most intrigued by the potential for Stannis v Dany and even if she turns out to be a just ruler, how will Stannis handle her claim to the iron throne. I also like the whole idea of Dany honing her craft in Meereen.
I like Dany chapters too in Dance, but I don't think Dany vs Stannis is ever happening. She currently has to deal with the Dothraki, then consolidate her power in Meereen, then pass through Volantis (probably Pentos as well), then deal with Aegon in Westeros and perhaps Euron as well. By the time she cleans up the south, I'm guessing Stannis will already be dead in the North. Remember, we only have two books left to finish the story, and all this isn't even factoring in the battle with the WW. Still, it would be fascinating to hear what Stannis would have to say about Danys claim and what sort of justifications he would use to deny it.
The Dany chapters are work. Grrm foes a great job if leaving me feeling lost in an inscrutable other culture.
The mereen intrigue doesn't quite pull me in until Queens Hand /barrister pulls the coup.
@@mightykaiser8058 True, i also forgot about Massey, who may turn on Stannis.
I love the Kingbreaker chapter. Barristan and Skahaz banter and then Barristan's doubts and thoughts are quite nice. And the fight with Khraaz is just amazing
I guess you are. I despise her chapters 😂😂😂
I’m sure Carmine is already on top of this, but it’d be great if you do videos like this for all the books (and bottom 10 too). It’s so nice to hear these long conversations you guys have!
My vote: all of Theons chapters in ADWD I think that story line is a masterpiece. followed by Ashas chapters particularly those that involve Stannis march on Winterfell. Victorians chapter on the Shield Islands. The Prologue due to the sheer creepy nature of it. Last but not least, the Epilogue, this is a chapter that never gets old or boring for me.
Agreed, the Greyjoys are goated.
Good list all-around! I'd argue that the prologue and at least one of the JonCon chapters deserve to be on the list, as they're fantastic, but these are without a doubt fantastic chapters.
Awesome. I'd be interested to know your favourite chapters for the other books as well, especially _A Feast For Crows._ I'm rereading that book and _A Dance with Dragons._ I'd list my favourite chapters of your _The Winds of Winter_ fanfiction...when it's done.
I was surprised to find that Feast has some of my favourite chapters of the series when doing my re-read. I'd be curious to hear his favourites as well. I think my favourite chapter of the whole book was the final Sam chapter.
Victarion chapters are a trip into a mind of a person with IQ of at best 80 and a pretty specific sense of morality.
Cersei chapters are a trip into a mind of a person with IQ of 110, who thinks her IQ is 120 and tries to do scheming that requires IQ of 130.
That’s generous with Cersei. She makes some seriously boneheaded moves in feast. Jon I would say has a high iq since he thinks in extremely 3 dimensional ways. He applies creative experience and actually applies the scientific method to the corpse he’s trying to see turns into a wight. Intelligence is marked with a curiosity about the world. Stupid people tend to not be able to acknowledge the worth of a diverse number of experiences
Cersei is NO 110i.q., 90, at best. Tyrion, Littlefinger, Varys, Jon, Arya... maybe Jaimie, high i.q.
@@MyUserTubeAccountCersei isn’t as smart as she thinks she is, but you have no idea what you’re talking about if you seriously think she has an IQ of 90. 90 is what an absolute moron would have.
@@MyUserTubeAccountdon't forget Tommen, he's a political mastermind with his ban on vegetables
Seems like 2023 will come to an end before we'll get The Winds of Winter.
Even after a decade since reading ADWD, still curious to see the follow-up involving Wyman Manderly, Davos Seaworth, ̶R̶e̶e̶k̶ Theon Greyjoy & Winterfell (along with an dizzying amount of other POV & 'side' characters).
Nostalgia (for simpler times). How time flies...
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Maybe I'm biased but Davos 3, 4 are my favorite.
Same here. Love them both.
Very good list. But no "Wayward Bride"? That chapter is one of my absolute favorites in Dance. I know the sex scene is kind of cringy but once the Mountain Clans attack and you get those beautiful descriptions of the Ironborn fighting this neverending onslaught of Clansmen in the forest with the moonlight shining above, it's just enthralling.
Doing this for every book would be cool
Love this type of discussion, wanna see this for each book
You mentioned having changed your mind about the honeyed locusts. I would really like a top 10 theories you've changed your mind about.
I'd definitely have one of the Davos chapters in white harbour in my list
I like when davos admits that he is putting white harbor in danger for vengeance and straight up calls raeghar Frey a liar.
this was so beautifully refreshing. Something truly positive. A reminder that even though we critique it comes from a place of love for the series.
Stannis was my favorite king when reading through the books the first time i hope grrm does him well story-wise
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I feel like the showrunners did Stannis dirty, because he was more popular than Dany. In the same episode, we saw Dany ride a dragon in an epic moment, and Stannis burn his daughter in a monsterous moment. Book Stannis has shown enough backbone and character, that he wouldn't resort to human sacrifice that quickly. And we know that things like Ramsay and Ser Twenty Goodman burning down the camp, won't happen in the book. Yes, Stannis may lose in Winds of Winter, but I feel that he won't go out like a total monster.
@@transformersrevenge9 i agree, you should listen to radio westeros’ podcast about Stannis. Hes the true iron, not robert
The showrunners admit they did not like stannis. It shows that stannis’ heroic and softer moments ( cart before the horse, renlys peace, Jon council scenes) are completely omitted from the story.
@@tenkenroo Ironically the actor and the source material together were so good, that even though they made him more of a dick in the show, he was still a fan favorite character up to his last 2 eps. That's how strong the Mannis was.
To each their own. I really like all the Jon chapters. Sometimes on rereads I would skip Tyrion and Dany, but I would never skip the Jon or Theon or Asha chapters.
Agreed, I thought the Jon chapters were the highlight of the book along with Theon.
I really like the Jamie chapters in Dance, especially the events around Riverrun. That would be in my top 10. :)
The prologue was amazing too. One of the best.
I used audiobooks on my last reread and the Theon chapter had me pacing in my room
Jon’s final chapter is such a great gut punch, I revisit it every few weeks. It’s so perfectly well built up and heart-wrenching I love it so much.
I’d love to see a version of this video for all the other books! Especially feast, though.
Please do this for all of the books, even Dunk and Egg
How is North Remembers not on here?!
I feel like Reek I, Davos IV, Cersei I, and The Griffin Reborn all could've been on here. Dance has so many great chapters to choose from even though the quality of the overall book is a bit inconsistent.
Re: poison locusts. This is actually a parallel to the scene where Tyrion doses Cersei’s wine. There isn’t any want to kill, but to get her out of the way for a couple of days.
Which makes Hizdahr a possible target too.
Love that this came out as I’m finishing a Dance reread, and yea honestly can’t really disagree with any of these picks. I don’t remember The Dragontamer as much and looking forward to rereading it
Thanks for the new video Preston! I’m excited for the next one :)
Lol, we see Quentyn being burned from his own pov, then in Barristan's chapter he supposedly dies and we know his companions were imprisoned, but according to Preston we're told nothing about what happened.
I think we all can agree that "Quentyn is alive" theory is very fun! :)
@@lucasjohansson2158
Schrödinger's Quentyn.
He's now been in superposition for over a decade.
Loved this! I'm sure you're busy, but I doubt I'm the only one who thinks you should do this for the other four novels as well.
I just found out recently that Shade of the Evening is made from Shadewood trees that have black bark and blue leaves. I assume "Jojen paste" is the equivalent of shade of the evening. I wonder if that means there's a "shadewood net" and a Bloodraven equivalent out beyond the 5 forts. Also, I'm guessing the House of Black and White's doors are made of weirwood and shadewood. I wonder if that means that the faceless men's power is some weird combination of both side's magic.
The Shade of the Evening equivalent to Weirwood net is the House of the Undying. Both are magic locations with strange trees where POV characters trip balls and get sent visions from a shadowy collective with mysterious allegiances and motivations. Dany leading to the downfall of the Undying and being hunted by warlocks will probably be paralleled eventually with Bran and the Children/Bloodraven.
@@mightykaiser8058 So Pyatt Pree would be Bloodraven's equivalent?
@@xenosaga8436 I think the warlocks parallel the Children, and Bloodraven parallels the Undying. The warlocks give Dany the Shade drink, just like the Children give Bran the Weirwood paste. The Undying, meanwhile, are the ones who claim they sent the red comet to Dany to show her the way. Bloodraven says similar things about waiting for Bran since he was a babe and sending him visions.
If the parallel holds up, the fact that the warlocks vow to get revenge on Dany after Drogon kills the Undying is interesting. Maybe Summer kills Bloodraven and the Children turn on Bran and company? You can speculate about GRRM parallels for days.
@mightykaiser8058 the bear and the maiden fair
Tyrion on the shy made is up there dor me. I love how he figures out about Aegon and Jon con. The horn doesn't something the dude that blew the horn was cooked from the inside and dropped dead!
@@blaubeer8039 No reread the chapter again tyrion kept calling Griff my lord because he figured out he was joncon and he knew young Griff was important because a sell sword welp has a master of arms, half a maester, and a septon to train him in secret for something. Tyrion knows young Griff was extremely important he just didn't know why. When the stone men attack he told young Griff to get below deck because if he dies everything is lost. Aegon said to joncon he knows who I am and tyrion says I do now for sure. Tyrion didn't know he was prince Aegon Targaryen until the cyvass game but he put most of it together on his own. Tyrion is very clever.
Davos under the merman court with wyman, wex, and robett.
Winds really needs to come out soon. Preston has resorted to listicals...
Well 3/4 done! Only three more years!
@@tenkenroo I'm lucky to have only started reading about 5 years ago. I shudder to think what it would be like if I hadn't been a 10 y/o when ADWD came out.... I'd be frothing at the mouth
@@tenkenroo Honestly, though. If GRRM is 75% done, and he's been more productive since 2019 than he was before that point, I think it's safe to say that as of January 2023 we're 9-14 months from completion and publication. Martin writes quicker as he gets closer to the endings of his books.
Now you gotta do this for every other book in the series or I’ll die
Ok, so with Kingbreaker I beg to disagree.
I think that Selmy made the decision to take down Hizdarh earlier when he saw how Hizdarh had reacted to Groleo's head being sent by Yunkish. Selmy compared Hizdarh reaction to the behaviour of the three Westerosi kings: Jaehaerys, Aerys and Robert. He thought that these three kings would be outraged (albeit in different manner) while Hizdarh is... kind of... surprised and... mildly displeased.
It seems to me that Selmy thought that Hizdarh is a traitor, a puppet king that had conspired with Yunkai yet was betrayed by Yunkish. Or, even if Hizdarh isn't a traitor, according to Selmy he is unfit to rule. When you read this part of the text, it seems that Selmy considered Hizdarh to be a worse ruler than Aerys. Which is saying much.
Of course, it is a paradox that Selmy judges Hizdarh according to the Westerosi standards. Indeed, he has no idea how should Meereenese ruler behave in such a situation. Yet it is still my belief that it's Hizdarh behaviour that mainly motivated Selmy to take him down.
I love when Preston acts as the fanboy.
I'm listening to the "Ball of Beasts" version of the combined books again and one of my goals is to really focus on Mereen and the Shave Pate and Hizzdar and a that so I want to see if I get a different impression now. I always assumed Hizdar _was_ guilty because when Baristan confronts him he completely breaks down in fear and basically admits to working with the SotH. If he was innocent then why wouldn't he adamantly assert it and deny the charges?
The Aeron chapter thats narrated like a sermon is one of the best ones to me.
I love the King Breaker chapter. That fight with Kraz was pretty awesome. Just seeing how Barriston is so intelligent when it comes to fighting but not much else
The fight with Khraaz is amazing
@@gustavoferroni2693 I keep imagining him as a young man with a Valerian steel sword, just cutting fools to ribbons
I think the first half of Tyrion Chapters up to meeting Jorah were really fun . Offered too much to the story with Griff's storyline and to the whole lore with the new destinations . Also the first " Reek " chapter is as good as it's unsettling and disturbing . " The Griffin Reborn " chapter is one I really enjoyed too , getting inside Cunnington's mind to see his inner thoughts and motives was really interesting .
Quick note on his Honorable Mention (Jon IV): House Norrey, Flint, Wull, etc. are far from being major houses that fought in Robert’s Rebellion; they’re so unbelievably minor. The major houses in the war would be the obvious ones (I.e., Baratheon, Stark, Targaryen, Arryn, Tully, Martell, Tyrell, Redwyne, Tarly, Lannister at the last minute). Nobody knows or cares what the mountain clans did during Robert’s Rebellion.
Plus, Stannis didn’t really fight alongside the Northmen all that much since he was getting sieged at Storm’s End for the majority of the war. And since they are just considered at best “petty lords” and not a part of the Great houses or minor houses of the realm, Stannis probably wouldn’t have known or cared about the self-identified “mountain clans”.
I totally buy that Jon had useful information about the North (his home) that Stannis understandably just wouldn’t have known about. Also, the moment really wasn’t put there to make Jon look cool necessarily; it was there to show that Jon was definitely allowing his bias guide his decision to help Stannis against the Boltons, the house that killed his brother.
A Norrey was Cregan Stark's wife and the house marches with Robb. Stannis, the man who knows every house in Westeros and who was raised by a maester, wouldn't know about House Norrey?
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin The way I see it is that there are 3 different classifications of noble houses in Westeros. First, you have your Great Houses, which would be the Lords Paramount of each respective kingdom (i.e. Stark, Lannister, Baratheon, Tully, etc.). Second, you have your minor houses, which are the main supporting houses of each kingdom (Manderly, Swyft, Dondarrion, Frey, etc.). I think maesters are really only concerned with these two types of houses when it comes to their education, as well as what they teach lords, ladies, and lordlings. The third and final type of noble house would be the petty lords. These are the houses that are barely highborn and their seats are usually holdfasts and the sort.
Maybe Cressen didn’t busy himself with the petty lords of each kingdom. He probably did for the petty lords of the Stormlands because they were the ones Robert, Stannis and Renly would need to know. Just like how Luwin told the Stark boys and Jon about House Norrey, Flint, Wull and so on. Petty lords only really matter to the noble houses that rule over those specific petty lords.
As far as that quote stating that Stannis knowing every house in Westeros, I think that’s more hyperbole than anything. I could believe that he might know the strength of every Great and minor house of the realm, but not necessarily the petty lords. Plus, the Norreys, Wulls, Flints and so on are more commonly thought as “mountain clans” than petty lords. Like I said, they are barely and only technically highborn. And they look completely different from any other “noble” house we’ve before, as showcased in the Wayward Bride chapter. They’re more wildling than highborn. But I appreciate the discussion, love the list by the way!
sorry but the only dish that Hizdar says is delish out of all of them was the locusts. Him not liking spicy food himself is not an excuse as it was the only dish he recommended to Dany. "Those are very tasty," advised Hizdahr. "You ought to try a few yourself, my love. They are rolled in spice before the honey, so they are sweet and hot at once."
1. A ghost in Winterfell
2. Theon I
3. Cersei II
4. Davos IV
5. Reek II
6. The King’s Prize
7. Reek III
8. Varamyr Sixskins
9. Jon Con II
10. Melisandre
I think Strong Belwas surviving the locusts is more meant to be about how bad ass he is rather than how strong the locusts are.
Sure.
But his surviving after eating the entire bowl does strongly suggest that the attack was intended to incapacitate rather than kill.
Unless the poisoner was as stupid as Prince Yusupov.
(Just been thinking about Rasputin again after watching the Dr Who special).
@@alanpennie8013 Or it suggests Strong Belwas is a beast of a man who can live up to his bragging.
The Ghost in Winterfell is my fav by far
Moqorro reading the glyphs is from the end of the Victarion chapter in Dance and not from the Winds' sample chapter.
I like the Tyrion chapter where he’s traveling with Griff and then attacked by the stone men
Tyrion's river cruise is all very "Proud Mary".
He'd left a good job in The City, though not by choice.
Just finished Dance for the first time, great video for me to watch
I have very fond memories of Davos IV.
Preston King!
Great video idea
i really like davos 4,it would be in my top 10
Yeah this video pretty much underscores why I do my best to pretend that the show never happened. Because they pretty much adapted everything through ASOS and then started doing their own dumb fan fiction.
It’s why I can’t take seriously anyone who acts like the books are going to have the same ending - or even close to the same ending - as the show. I mean, they’re wildly different from AFFC onwards to the point where the show barely resembles those last two books at all.
I personally would have the prologue in my top 10, solid list though. Will you be doing a ranking for each book? Please do.
Just in time for my reread.
Holy shit, is the war in Meereen an allegory for the February and October revolutions?🤯
The Barranshina instead of The Kerenshina (?)
I was just thinking of the poison which famously failed to kill Rasputin.
The 1st theon chapter should be in the list , it was such a shock
Yeah, that's my favourite Theon chapter in ADWD
Is that the chapter where he arrives on the Iron Islands amd meets Osha/Asha? (his sister. I don't remember how the book spells it lol).
@@ceilingfanenthusiast6041 No, it's Theon in the dungeons of the Dreadfort remembering how Ramsay tortured his identity out of him. First time we've seen Theon since the sack of Winterfell in ACOK. It's a tremendous portrait of the human mind cracking under abuse.
@@aaronginsberg4993 oh right. I just saw the words "1st chapter" and didn't realise they meant in Dance. I love that chapter :)
I had it spoiled for me long in advance but seeing Theon's physical transformation and broken, subservient persinality was horrifying.
Surprised not to hear the Davos/Manderly “the North remembers” Chapter in here. That’s the first one I went back and read again.
Preston, have you watched DJ Peach Cobbler's video on HotD and FaB? A rare case when someone appreciates the book's ambiguitiy
Idk how to find more info on this but maybe someone also noticed this. It seems like there is always a description of how long it took for a dragonrider to get back on land in the first time they mount it, like it takes some time to connect or something.
Maybe explain why Aerea eventually managed to fly back with Balerion
Love the list
Reek's/Theons Chapter are the best in the book.
The Lost Lord is very Underrated due to the Heavy Civil War Themes/Confederate comparisons you can relate and see with The Golden Company.
Victarion's/Asha chapters are very enjoyable to read and did a great job setting up the Ironborn Factions after the Crowning of Euron.
Daenerys Chapter's are very boring tbh.
Pres, what is your all time favorite chapter?
Hi Preston! Did you delete a video about the prologue of A Feast for Crows?
Thanks
The horn seems to have the ability to burn people. Personally I love your idea of the horn being a people tamer rather than dragon-tamer and think it fits GRRMs style perfectly. Finding lost tech, but not fully understanding its use feels like total George.
Preston when you’re done the fanfic I’d love for you to write about Stannis’ adventures in the Mountain Clan mountains. One long chapter about him having to schmooze The Wull and The Norrey and all the other The’s
Every book my favorite chapters are the very first ones. Pate the pig boy, will the watchman, varamir six skins, measter cressin, and chett.
I do like the Xaro chapter with dany in ADWD tbh- or is it the danny chapter with Xaro lol
Also the first like 4 Tyrion Chapters are quite interesting for me- up until he gets to the boat- can never remember the name. Aegon’s reveal is really well done in my opinion.
I also do like the Theon ones too
I literally just read a theory that the locusts were poisoned by Gerris to kill Hizdahr.
Let's say "incapacitate".
@@alanpennie8013 Yeah, you think a Dornishman would use such a weak poison because I don't.
Bro the prologue
aren't kevan and pycelle killed by qiburn during the explosion of the sept. he's presented as the new varys with control over the little birds ig thats the epilogue in the show
No.
He offers up the locas dispite not liking spicy food, yet he says there delicious. WTF is preston on, Barristan is an awesome character, this guy is putting clues together himself. Preston needs to reread the book, overanalyzing shit wayyy too much.
No Davos IV? Come on!
A lot of people would have The Wayward Bride on the list, but i love The Sacrifice.
This is perfect for me, I just finished the audiobook on Monday, anyone who hasn't heard Roy Dotrice read and act out these books should go do that, it was amazing
The secondary and new characters definitely had more love in feast and dance
As a meaningless but fun thing to do, could you do a 'what would these Game of Thrones characters do if they were in the same situation as their House of the Dragon counterparts? Who would they support, if any?'
No Griffin Reborn?
I was interested to learn that PJ believes the horn has no powers. Considering it has glowing glyphs, a sound that touches the soul, and it immolates the blower to death and makes him bleed, we have to admit it is magical, and is doing something.
I was very compelled by PJs original notion that it bound people. It would make sense since the blower dies, therefore the only people who can use the horn are people who own people: slavers. However, nowadays I am thinking it does bind dragons. Why? Because there are three dragons, and therefore they have to be divided amongst three sides. Dany will have Drogon, Viserion will be owned by the Others. But rhaegal? I think he will be bound by the Ironborn. He’s green, and they represent the sea. David Lightbringer brilliantly unpacks the recurrence of Green Sea / green sea dragons thought the series. After the Ironborn are finished with him, it’s possible Jon may possess him.
They couldn’t do the epilogue since they weren’t doing Aegon.
When you say the chapter in your honorable mention you state Stannis should know about the mountain clan because they rode with Ned stark in the rebellion and that the scene was only meant to make jon look cool. If I’m not mistaken Stannis spent the entire Rebellion defending dragonstone from high gardens lord and wouldn’t know of every single house that rode with the north. He also wouldn’t have been there for the battle of the trident but I only read the books once, Somebody correct me if im wrong. (If I’m right jon is just cool and Stannis lame as always suck it king of nothing!!!)
Nah you are correct. Stannis was stuck at the siege of storms end for the war of five kings. The only chance he would have to meet one of the mountain clans was a wull in neds crew that rode to dorne but he would not have stayed long and doubtful stannis would talk to a lord so below his station.
After the siege stannis was instructed to head to dragonstone to capture dany and viserys.
The Dragon horn can't be ordinary. How can the Iron Born be so credulous?
My recommendation: Prepping For Winter/Overanalyzing House of the Dragon except for instead of reading into every word of text in a shit book like Fire and Blood, you do the best chapters in Dance. It would be difficult and extremely time consuming to do any more than a few chapters but maybe if you did the two epilogues or the all prologues, that would be some good content. Love your videos
Dance is the best book of them all!
Wait they didn’t do the Epilogue in GoT? I think I mandela effected myself hard, I can see the scene in my head. I guess I just imagined it with the show actors when I read it.
Do the little birds murder someone or am I misremembering that too?
Qyburn has a bunch of kids kill pycelle. For some reason… kevan dies in the sept blowup
@@tenkenroo thanks for the sanity check!
Tyrion, on one hand has my favorite chapters in this book (any of them where he is with Faegon's group) while on the other hand almost putting me to sleep with some of his later chapters with Penny
Davos in the wolfs den should be top 10
While I agree with most of the list, I for one tremendously enjoyed every Davos chapter, even the one in the Sisters
Didn't the horn make a blowers tattoo look like it was fire pheonex
Battles contain a young kid who gets his guts spilled out and cries for his mother, in Essos he would say “Myssa”.
The horn makes everyone silent and then chant a single name, except a poor kid whose guts are spilt out.
Dragons will fly, probably with gender reversed Dany and Jon fakes riders: Pretty Maris and Quentyn in a dress, maybe Sweets.
Daenerys will win her armies to conquer with not even being there…