It sounds cool, I kind of sucks that the website no longer works and he has been quiet for a while, he had great potential, it looks like he's still online based on a post he retweeted a week ago.
Table of Contents: 0:00 Intro 0:38 Details for TX Films 0:51 Details for Kebo Films 1:12 Details for THICC Films 1:31 Details for Deskeys Films 2:21 Unfilmed Alpacas Sound Test 2:32 Kebo Filmed Alpacas Sound Test 2:43 TX Filmed Alpacas Sound Test 2:54 THICC Filmed Alpacas Sound Test 3:04 Deskeys Filmed Alpacas Sound Test 3:16 Commentary and Conclusion
ty lol, I’m such an audio noob I was accidentally using “omnidirectional” setting on my mic instead of “cardioid” and I got a lot closer to it this time :)
Comparing the TX films, THICC, and Deskeys films only have subtle sound differences and it was hard for me to tell most of the time which is which. Easier for me to tell which is kebo sometimes but not all the time. Its awesome that you did a blind test. A lot of the sound tests I heard that didn't have a blind test so I was trapped into bias and confirmation. Thank you for this
What a video, such a lot of effort has gone into it for such a short video, but it gets straight to the point and gave me exactly what I wanted. Immediate subscribe
the kbcompare site you made is so awesome! I would really love to see more sound comparisons on this site, this beats all the other sound tests by a mile man thanks for doing that. Maybe a jwk linear sound comparison would be cool since theres so many now :) lookin forward to your upcomin vids man you're killin it
I was just wondering how Deskeys films compared to the other options, great video and perfect timing! v impressed by the sound comparison site you made too!
I recently wanted to make a reddit post asking what are the differences between films bc I can't understand shit, and this video comes out. Really good and helpful content as always, love u
Kudos to you for the hard work you're putting in your videos, it's by far the best instructional material one can find about mechanical keyboard switches these days 👍
You are the first person on TH-cam I have seen who goes to the trouble of doing a scientific test - same switch, same board, same position. Its logical. But I've seen so many reviewers and keyboard enthusiasts who bang away on a row of keys across the board. Everyone knows you get completely different sounds in different position son the board. Thank you sir!
This is such an amazing review/comparison. Concise, video bookmarks, name of the test persists throughout the segment, blind comparison tools, clear rankings, etc. Keep up the great work! Edit: the blind comparison site isn't working for me in Firefox or Chrome :\
Great video dude. Really informative stuff. That kbcompare website you made is nifty af! Just copped a board thats coming with THICC filmed Mauves and I actually ended up blindly choosing the THICC sound test on kbcompare haha. Keep up the good work!
My blind favorite was the TX, followed closely by Thicc Great idea with kbcompare! It would be awesome to see functionality expanded in the future to include a searchable archive of sound tests with information like switches, boards, keycaps, modifications, lubes, and films. That way the community could build up a repository of sound test to help inform buying decisions and/or keeb sound porn haha
Amazing! I have some audio clips of variations of foam usage in my kbd67, I’m thrilled to be able to use your kbcompare for it! Thanks for a great vid too
A great video, and your channel is really helping me, a keyb noob, to better understand the complexity behind some of the decisions needed. I would love to see a video talking about lube, different lubes, and what the thinking is behind the different choices!
Great video thanks so much. Makes me glad that the first time I bought films I went for deskeys 0.3mm, as the sound is mostly the switch and the housing and has very little extra. Again, thanks for the great video.
Thank you for these. I just got my first films yesterday and filmed some switches, but remember wondering what the differences were between the one (got kebo since they were actually in stock).
Lol honestly the only difference I could hear was filmed vs unfilmed. That website was really usaful though. I can certainly be a very powerful tool for switch sound testing as well! Keep it up, your contents are great :)
a suggestion I would have for sound test is to jump back and forth more between sound test (like in the middle of typing), this can help us have an easier time picking out the difference between tests (if there's any)
Thanks for the suggestion! it's tricky making useful sound test on YT videos, I think a much better model is something like kbcompare.com, where you can rapidly go back and forth between the different options at your own pace. I want to keep adding features to the site to make it more useful / easier for these types of tests. Here's the link to the sound test for this video: kbcompare.com/jcjC3g/start
Thanks a lot for your website tool. Being new to the mech hobby, I had no idea what films were up to. Now I have my own, unbiased opinion. My personal result was : I only revealed unfilmed (the most annoying) and Deskeys (the least "messy and tiring" to listen to). I guess I am going for Deskeys then. Found it on Keygem for purchase in EU.
Great video. And the kbcompare is a fantastic concept; Testing and comparing without knowing what you're hearing is a great way to know what you really like without biases. I could constantly tell which one was my favorite, and my goto film from now on will be the Deskeys film. I still have some TXfilms left, but every time I tested it was the worst sounding one for me. Well, it is still way better than nothing(especially on JWK switches).
I loved that website. For me, tx was #1 and thicc was #2. I’m pretty happy that I ended up choosing tx, because I just filmed my entire keeb two days ago with them and have lots of extras. Would’ve sucked if I though they sounded the worst in comparison.
Do rubber films make the switch quieter in sound? I’m trying to make the quietest mx Keyboard possible, so this could be an essential information, because I got all the films besides rubber. Btw. This video wasn’t shown in my subscription so I hit the bell just in case.
this is a great video - I have to say though that I can barely tell the difference between the 4 different films, even with the blind comparison. Personally I have only used kebo films (since they happened to be in stock). My big take away from this video is that the most important thing is to film switches at all haha are there any switches you can think of that don't really benefit from switch films?
Thank you!! And yeah there are definitely some that I believe do not benefit from films: creams and holy pandas come to mind, and BOX switches don’t fit traditional films
I got some switch films on amazon "Switch Films for Mechanical Keyboard,Switches Film Inter-axial Paper,Switch Repair HTV Inter-axial Pad Structure Compatible with MX Switch" do you think these are usable?
When doing these kinds of comparisons it would be really helpful if you did not use your modifiers and spacebar since the stabilizers overwhelm the sound of the switches that we are trying to hear and its distracting from the purpose of your demonstration.
Bro, you're the second creator that uses his pinky with the letter "A", and because of that, I subbed. hahahaha why doesn't other creator use their pinky?
Kebo: Got the sharpest clicky sound in these film list TX: Most balanced film with all of these film advantages, TX got a little crunchy clicky sound as Kebo also with deeper sound THICC film: Same goes with her name, really THICC clicky typing sound but not annoying as Kebo (well maybe a little) Deskys: Having the deepest typing sound and reduced the crunchy clicky "noise", If you've got a gateron black ink v2 switch then I'll recommended it
I'm unclear on which switches benefit most from adding films? I know everyone says to add them to linear switches but do they also benefit tactile and clicky switches? Are there some that one shouldn't add films too? Like would they benefit Jades or Navys? Or Browns?
It’ll all come down to whether or not the switch has housing wobble (meaning the top and bottom housings move around when you hit the switch). That movement produces an unpleasant crunch, similar to a soft click. I film pretty much all linears and tactiles except those that don’t fit them (such as creams or holy pandas). As for clicky ive never thought to film them since the click noise overpowers any noise coming from housing wobble
Simply an amazing video! Can’t help by leave a like, comment and subscribe for someone working so hard! Thanks. I have kebos already and was thinking about getting some deskeys to try in person. Decided to do so
Interesting! That might have to do with ease of installation as the shiny part will have more friction with whatever it’s touching, but there should be no difference in sound / feel as far as I know. I’ll do some digging :)
I always guessed what deskeys are.. they really sound nice and different, the other 3 are almost the same while stock is ofc the worst edit: another day, still can hear huge difference with deskeys vs others. Thanks for having such a great channel btw u'll grow fast as fk im sure
Did u notice a difference regarding the typing experience/ feel? I own a rama koyu (integrated Plate) w/ 62g Sakurios and the TX films made the overall typing extremely (even more) stiff - where the Kebos which iam using rn are perfect. Never used Thicc or Deskkeys tho.
I didn't really notice a significant feel difference between the four, but it would make sense that thicc and TX would be the "stiffest" while Kebo and Deskeys have more wiggle room (kebo because it's thin, and deskeys because it's very flexible). I think you'd like Deskeys
@@keybonbonIt was a great comparison. I'll be putting thicc films on some durock switches when they arrive. I had never heard deskey films too so you taught me something. 🙂
The site idea is a great one. I was almost sure Desk Keys were my favorite but after comparing them on the site I found TX sounds better to me. On a unrelated note... What PC Case is that?
I suggest watching his previous video. There is no significant sound difference with filmed creams, since the housing is already tight. So you don’t really need to film them.
I agree with Melnyx about filming creams and I usually avoid it, but I do have a friend that tried filming creams recently with Deskeys and according to him they fit (have not confirmed myself though)
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Wow, I just wanna say it's incredibly thoughtful that you've created a website for a blind sound comparison!
It sounds cool, I kind of sucks that the website no longer works and he has been quiet for a while, he had great potential, it looks like he's still online based on a post he retweeted a week ago.
Table of Contents:
0:00 Intro
0:38 Details for TX Films
0:51 Details for Kebo Films
1:12 Details for THICC Films
1:31 Details for Deskeys Films
2:21 Unfilmed Alpacas Sound Test
2:32 Kebo Filmed Alpacas Sound Test
2:43 TX Filmed Alpacas Sound Test
2:54 THICC Filmed Alpacas Sound Test
3:04 Deskeys Filmed Alpacas Sound Test
3:16 Commentary and Conclusion
damn I can't believe the films were replaced for every switch for each test. that's dedication! my body hurts just thinking about it
haha I was up most of the night!
This man deserves more subscriber
The keyboard community is just like that.
Anything for a more orgasmic feel and sound
@@ketmax2805 the ultimate keygasm
@@gagakserak3914 he just got one here 👍
is the blind sound test page no longer up? The link just takes me to a solid black screen with no navigation
it doesnt work for me either
Voice is a lot cleaner in this one for sure, great job improving your already great quality, keep it up
Mange face reveal when?
@@kevinzyrkowski there are a few picture of me around, i don't usually care to show my face because it doesn't really matter how I look like
ty lol, I’m such an audio noob I was accidentally using “omnidirectional” setting on my mic instead of “cardioid” and I got a lot closer to it this time :)
@@keybonbon Heard lots of nose breathing, but this comparison was still pretty nice.
Comparing the TX films, THICC, and Deskeys films only have subtle sound differences and it was hard for me to tell most of the time which is which. Easier for me to tell which is kebo sometimes but not all the time. Its awesome that you did a blind test. A lot of the sound tests I heard that didn't have a blind test so I was trapped into bias and confirmation. Thank you for this
the blind test page is sweet, this stuff takes a lot of effort much appreciated
ahhh yes i do love me a black screen
SOMEONE WHO EXPLAINS THE DIFFERENT FILMS THANK YOU
Already you’ve gone above and beyond with the production value of the insightful video you make. Keep it up!
yeah, this is must subscribe channel for keeb enthusiast
What a video, such a lot of effort has gone into it for such a short video, but it gets straight to the point and gave me exactly what I wanted. Immediate subscribe
I love what you're doing with your channel, this is some of the most incisive mkb content out there
your videos are a godsend for new members and for the growth of this community
the kbcompare site you made is so awesome! I would really love to see more sound comparisons on this site, this beats all the other sound tests by a mile man thanks for doing that. Maybe a jwk linear sound comparison would be cool since theres so many now :) lookin forward to your upcomin vids man you're killin it
Thanks a lot I appreciate that! I’m hoping to make the site more usable soon (making it mobile friendly and letting users upload audio files)
@@sirblebington hey it’s back up, not sure why it went down but I’ll check server logs to see. Thanks for reporting!
I was just wondering how Deskeys films compared to the other options, great video and perfect timing! v impressed by the sound comparison site you made too!
Man, your videos are very informative, hope you're doing well and you'll eventually do so more videos !
I recently wanted to make a reddit post asking what are the differences between films bc I can't understand shit, and this video comes out. Really good and helpful content as always, love u
Watching this before ordering some deskeys films. Thanks for the info! Keep up the great work
Another great informational video as always!! This will definitely help answer some of the questions that are flying by about films.
thanks Winter!!
Kudos to you for the hard work you're putting in your videos, it's by far the best instructional material one can find about mechanical keyboard switches these days 👍
Super helpful. None of the other reviews have done actual comparisons like this. Would love a stabilizer comparison!
Not sure if you're aware, but I think the kbcompare link is not working anymore.
You are the first person on TH-cam I have seen who goes to the trouble of doing a scientific test - same switch, same board, same position. Its logical. But I've seen so many reviewers and keyboard enthusiasts who bang away on a row of keys across the board. Everyone knows you get completely different sounds in different position son the board. Thank you sir!
This is such an amazing review/comparison. Concise, video bookmarks, name of the test persists throughout the segment, blind comparison tools, clear rankings, etc. Keep up the great work!
Edit: the blind comparison site isn't working for me in Firefox or Chrome :\
Saw the vid on r/mechanicalkeyboards and came to subscribe. Keep up the great content!
Great video dude. Really informative stuff. That kbcompare website you made is nifty af! Just copped a board thats coming with THICC filmed Mauves and I actually ended up blindly choosing the THICC sound test on kbcompare haha. Keep up the good work!
My blind favorite was the TX, followed closely by Thicc
Great idea with kbcompare! It would be awesome to see functionality expanded in the future to include a searchable archive of sound tests with information like switches, boards, keycaps, modifications, lubes, and films. That way the community could build up a repository of sound test to help inform buying decisions and/or keeb sound porn haha
Great ideas! I hope to make it more usable and feature rich in the near future :)
I appreciate all the comparison videos you made. They are so helpful!!
Amazing! I have some audio clips of variations of foam usage in my kbd67, I’m thrilled to be able to use your kbcompare for it! Thanks for a great vid too
Thanks a lot! I will work on making the site more usable and then will make a tutorial video on how to use it :)
Really comprehensive . Awesome🔥🔥
Gosh, the amount of effort and dedication you put into these videos really show in the end quality! Great job!
dude I just watched this and it was so informational! Thanks, it really helped, you deserve more subs man :)
Dang that sound test thing is amazing
A great video, and your channel is really helping me, a keyb noob, to better understand the complexity behind some of the decisions needed.
I would love to see a video talking about lube, different lubes, and what the thinking is behind the different choices!
I definitely want to make a video along those lines :)
I really appreciate your dedication man. Great great job!
i think i watched every video you did, awsome stuff dude
so glad you decided to test on alpacas because I'm getting them!
Really informative. Looks like I will be printing my films in PLA. Seems like the thicc films do a great job without dampening too much sound.
Great video thanks so much.
Makes me glad that the first time I bought films I went for deskeys 0.3mm, as the sound is mostly the switch and the housing and has very little extra.
Again, thanks for the great video.
Thank you for these. I just got my first films yesterday and filmed some switches, but remember wondering what the differences were between the one (got kebo since they were actually in stock).
Excellent to the point vid. Perfect way to compare. It’s pretty clear films make the keebs sound better.
Lol honestly the only difference I could hear was filmed vs unfilmed. That website was really usaful though. I can certainly be a very powerful tool for switch sound testing as well! Keep it up, your contents are great :)
a suggestion I would have for sound test is to jump back and forth more between sound test (like in the middle of typing), this can help us have an easier time picking out the difference between tests (if there's any)
Thanks for the suggestion! it's tricky making useful sound test on YT videos, I think a much better model is something like kbcompare.com, where you can rapidly go back and forth between the different options at your own pace. I want to keep adding features to the site to make it more useful / easier for these types of tests. Here's the link to the sound test for this video: kbcompare.com/jcjC3g/start
the kbcompare link doesn't work any more
Thanks so much Keybonbon!
Thanks a lot for your website tool. Being new to the mech hobby, I had no idea what films were up to. Now I have my own, unbiased opinion. My personal result was : I only revealed unfilmed (the most annoying) and Deskeys (the least "messy and tiring" to listen to). I guess I am going for Deskeys then. Found it on Keygem for purchase in EU.
Wonderful stuff! Keep up the good work!
This must have been horrifically tedious for you. Can't imagine. You deserve a medal.
Great youtuber sad that he hasnt posted in a long time 😔
Thanks for the hard work and links!
Great video. And the kbcompare is a fantastic concept; Testing and comparing without knowing what you're hearing is a great way to know what you really like without biases.
I could constantly tell which one was my favorite, and my goto film from now on will be the Deskeys film. I still have some TXfilms left, but every time I tested it was the worst sounding one for me. Well, it is still way better than nothing(especially on JWK switches).
Terrific content, keep it up!
Very good video. I prefer deskey films now. They have a tighter tolerance so they’re a little harder to get on but I think they work best
Hi KeyBonbon, great video! I was trying to use that kbcompare website but it looks like it no longer works? Also any idea on Durock Films as well?
Which one should I use for Gateron Yellows? (clear top black bottom) tx or deskeys?
Thanx for making this - ! - very helpful :)
Quick and to the point, love it
I only use deskeys now they fit perfectly in everything and once you get used to it they are actually the easiest to install.
I loved that website. For me, tx was #1 and thicc was #2. I’m pretty happy that I ended up choosing tx, because I just filmed my entire keeb two days ago with them and have lots of extras. Would’ve sucked if I though they sounded the worst in comparison.
Do rubber films make the switch quieter in sound? I’m trying to make the quietest mx Keyboard possible, so this could be an essential information, because I got all the films besides rubber.
Btw. This video wasn’t shown in my subscription so I hit the bell just in case.
Thank you for hitting the bell! And I do think the rubber films mute the sound a bit compared to the other options
this is a great video - I have to say though that I can barely tell the difference between the 4 different films, even with the blind comparison. Personally I have only used kebo films (since they happened to be in stock). My big take away from this video is that the most important thing is to film switches at all haha
are there any switches you can think of that don't really benefit from switch films?
Thank you!! And yeah there are definitely some that I believe do not benefit from films: creams and holy pandas come to mind, and BOX switches don’t fit traditional films
Very informative stuff. Keep it up!
I got some switch films on amazon "Switch Films for Mechanical Keyboard,Switches Film Inter-axial Paper,Switch Repair HTV Inter-axial Pad Structure Compatible with MX Switch" do you think these are usable?
Is the website down for the blind test?
When doing these kinds of comparisons it would be really helpful if you did not use your modifiers and spacebar since the stabilizers overwhelm the sound of the switches that we are trying to hear and its distracting from the purpose of your demonstration.
interesting! I might start recording an alphas-only version in future videos. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@keybonbon Keep up the great content!
What keycaps did you use in your first Switch Film video, I love them and I might consider getting them but I cant find them anywhere ;-;
Bro, you're the second creator that uses his pinky with the letter "A", and because of that, I subbed. hahahaha why doesn't other creator use their pinky?
Kebo: Got the sharpest clicky sound in these film list
TX: Most balanced film with all of these film advantages, TX got a little crunchy clicky sound as Kebo also with deeper sound
THICC film: Same goes with her name, really THICC clicky typing sound but not annoying as Kebo (well maybe a little)
Deskys: Having the deepest typing sound and reduced the crunchy clicky "noise", If you've got a gateron black ink v2 switch then I'll recommended it
Thanks for the informative video. Unfortunately, the link to kbcompare test you provided doesn't work anymore.
I think the link for the sound test is broken. It isn't working for me.
same
@@arcadia3907 it's just a black screen
Yes, is there other link or something?
amazing video, straight to the point
I'm unclear on which switches benefit most from adding films? I know everyone says to add them to linear switches but do they also benefit tactile and clicky switches? Are there some that one shouldn't add films too? Like would they benefit Jades or Navys? Or Browns?
It’ll all come down to whether or not the switch has housing wobble (meaning the top and bottom housings move around when you hit the switch). That movement produces an unpleasant crunch, similar to a soft click. I film pretty much all linears and tactiles except those that don’t fit them (such as creams or holy pandas). As for clicky ive never thought to film them since the click noise overpowers any noise coming from housing wobble
Man this guy's all about switch film, like it's crack
Should I Film Gateron clears? And If I Should What Film Should I Use?
Simply an amazing video! Can’t help by leave a like, comment and subscribe for someone working so hard! Thanks. I have kebos already and was thinking about getting some deskeys to try in person. Decided to do so
I saw on Taeha Types that the Deskeys films should be place matte side up, and saw a little shine ar 3:59. Is that matte side up or glossy side up?
Interesting! That might have to do with ease of installation as the shiny part will have more friction with whatever it’s touching, but there should be no difference in sound / feel as far as I know. I’ll do some digging :)
should i get the thicker kebo ones for linear alpacas? Because I heard someone say to usually get thicker films for linear alpacas.
just got some thicc films , sounded mad nice from your sound test
I love the website ... why does noone use it? Did you promote it to other content creators?
I always guessed what deskeys are.. they really sound nice and different, the other 3 are almost the same while stock is ofc the worst
edit: another day, still can hear huge difference with deskeys vs others. Thanks for having such a great channel btw u'll grow fast as fk im sure
Very informative, thank you.
Did u notice a difference regarding the typing experience/ feel? I own a rama koyu (integrated Plate) w/ 62g Sakurios and the TX films made the overall typing extremely (even more) stiff - where the Kebos which iam using rn are perfect. Never used Thicc or Deskkeys tho.
I didn't really notice a significant feel difference between the four, but it would make sense that thicc and TX would be the "stiffest" while Kebo and Deskeys have more wiggle room (kebo because it's thin, and deskeys because it's very flexible). I think you'd like Deskeys
I am looking to buy Deskeys from a EU store but on material it says foam and not rubber, smth changed on those films since 2020 ?
Different films but using the same switches, same board and SAME LOCATIONS!? How much work was this!?
I was up most of the night lol
@@keybonbonIt was a great comparison. I'll be putting thicc films on some durock switches when they arrive. I had never heard deskey films too so you taught me something. 🙂
Is it normal for films to increase switch ping? Or the vibrations after lettig go off the stem? At least when not lubing them?
The site idea is a great one. I was almost sure Desk Keys were my favorite but after comparing them on the site I found TX sounds better to me. On a unrelated note... What PC Case is that?
I'm guessing a tokyo60
@@gwillad I was asking about the computer, not the keyboard.
Keyboard is Rama M60 and PC case is NZXT H510 Elite. Thanks for watching!!
Hello, I am curious what do you think about Kelowna switch films? They are on AliExpress and TaoBao. Are they a valid option comparing to Deskeys?
oh interesting! I haven't tried those, but I'll see if I can get my hands on some
I bought Cream switches from KBDFANS and TX films do not fit, the housing is way too tight, would the deskey films fit?
I suggest watching his previous video. There is no significant sound difference with filmed creams, since the housing is already tight. So you don’t really need to film them.
I agree with Melnyx about filming creams and I usually avoid it, but I do have a friend that tried filming creams recently with Deskeys and according to him they fit (have not confirmed myself though)
Why did this guy disappear I love his videos
What film is the best for clacky soumd profile? I use jwk blacks because i want budget mx blacks
0.15mm PC films (and THICC, if they fit).
link is broken, sound test is broken
Nice work bro! More builds and mods))
Very nice video on this topic
Hey there, that sound test website link no longer seems to work. Any chance you could fix it?
I just wanna say that I was here when this man hits 1mil subscribers, bc it's coming.
Lol I doubt there would be that many people that would be interested in this stuff, but thank you I appreciate that!!
Does the down or upstroke feel slightly mushier with the deskey films? Because they're made out of rubber...
Nope I don’t notice any mushiness- the top and bottom housing compress it to the point where it can’t really be compressed much anymore
@@keybonbon Thx dude.Just ordered some.
thx for the great reviews
Hi @keybonbon,
Thanks for the video.
Can you make a video of how to make the gk64 hot swapable keyboard better?
Thanks.
Thanks for reviewing this. I am a little sad the website or at least the direct link doesn't work any more though.
doin' god's work brother