Janalphabet Lol you use switches, you fucking noob, I activate it with a switch puller going in the pcb Edit: just in case, it’s a joke please don’t get mad
Allways if I can get good looking keycaps with GMK on the box! Why would I want a good computer anyways. It more reasonable to buy 200 $ pieces of plastic.
Just a heads-up but if you like the look of pudding but enjoy thicker, higher quality keycaps... The new Ducky pudding caps are pretty great. Got some for my son and they were better quality and thickness than standard pudding caps found elsewhere. PBT doubleshot.
Got purple pudding Matrix keycaps not to long ago! Really enjoy them though I cant tell the difference much from those and some Amazon Green ones I got for half the price.
Working in the injection moulding industry. I can confirm the main thing you're paying for is limited availability/limited runs. Abs vs pbt and even manufacturing quality to an extent is not the biggest price differential. That will be a few pence/cents per key cap at most. But limited runs can be the biggest difference. When you divide tooling costs and press time into each part, a 50k single shot tool or 100k double shot tool set (rough estimates) with colour variations with setup costs and small run times etc is where the money adds up for the manufacturer ROI.
So what you're saying is that they are intentionally making them available for limited times so that they can charge more rather than keeping them around so that they can charge less. That is, artificially inflating demand and price at the same time so that they can justify the absurd prices. Hmmm.
@@nickglover yes and no. The manufacturer will estimate demand and base their runs on this. At the end of the day you have a cost of investment, so if you can't invest for 100k sets but can only afford 1k sets then so be it.
I suppose that also doesn't really explain why sets that are normally stocked, like basically every MT3 set on Drop, are so expensive. Those should have the better ROI, and yet...
@@nickglover again you can look at it from a pure material and process aspect and these sets should cost no more than about £10. You put a price on your brand though separately based on what you think of your engineering/design input and what that is worth. When you talk Automotive (segment I work in) , you are not looking at 100k more car from an audi Q5 to a range rover vogue. But people pay that for the perceived quality/luxury of the range rover.
Yeah, I think that's really what I'm saying. People want to justify the prices, but really it's just that they can get away with charging that. If we all stopped buying, they'd probably lower prices. But it's a weird inflated market we've all accepted, so it continues.
JTK has become one of my go to brands of middle-ground, Also JTK has been one of the few to pull off a Triple-shot set of caps on a few different runs. Custom boards is a endless rabbit hole to fall into, but imo worth it over-all.
Hey JDTechGear I needed help with Anne Pro 2 keyboard (60% keyboard): I need a Portuguese keyboard, but doing so I lose the functions on the side of those keycaps. So my point is, where can I got to, to order custom backlit keys, in Portuguese, backlit but have the side functions on them?
@@Slada1 Lego also has good quality control and a long history of it. These low volume keycap, switch and keyboard companies do not. You'd think these supposedly "one off" group buy keycaps and switches would be of the highest quality but they rarely if ever are completely without defects. Gmk plays it safe by barely innovating.
I got myself a KBD67 which requires a shorter shift key that many mainstream keycap sets don't have, which forced me to dig into the custom keyboard market and many of the popular Chinese keyboard websites like Taihao, Kprepublic and KBDfans. I'm really glad I didn't go for a cheap $40 set of two-tone and instead settled on a GB of EPBT Sushi keys. They are really nice to touch and super high quality. $100 for the set.
do not stone me pls. i bought a 2 tone abs set (navy/pink) from taihao's website for like $30 w/ shipping! (i paid in TWD) and i love them! The caps don't feel slick at all, the colors and legends are very clean and the manufacturing quality is a 100x better than expected!
EPBT is seriously underrated. Also no mention of Signature Plastics SA. Their ABS is on another caliber. Not as crisp as GMK but looks better when it turns shiny.
I’m waiting on the GMK Vaporwave to arrive, it’s going to be a nice upgrade from the cheap white keycaps that I currently have and help bring my setup together
If a keycap is just a bunch of plastic, a cpu is just a bunch of sand Gmk sets are like designer handbags, they're exclusive and they appreciate in value as they become more rare. Let's not kid ourselves on quality, sure they are higher quality but given how the whole system is automated it is definitely not worth hundreds based on the product alone, what is worth hundreds is the exclusivity of designs and colors. They are expensive because group buys are so long and in very small batches Here is an example: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N6FFP1C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I have that keycap set and a GMK set, the GMK one cost me $215 and this one cost $18. Aside from the backlighting being uneven like in the video at 4:08 which is just a problem with all pbt, these keycaps are just as thick as the GMK set and have no warping or other issues. For $18 they are just as high quality as the GMK set except for that one issue, but the GMK set is worth it because its worth minimum $300 now because it is exclusive and its in a niche colorway that perfectly matches everything else in my setup. If you just want quality you can't go wrong with keycaps similar to the one I linked, but if you are buying GMK you are buying the exclusivity and uniqueness of the design. I think the video did a good job of making this point clear but I think there was too much of a focus on the quality. The quality is not important up to a certain level, and it makes no sense comparing $200 keycaps with free ones that come with the keyboard to say they have higher quality, its more fair to compare them against $20 - $50 keycaps and the truth is there really isn't much more quality, its all just about exclusivity
IMO, the best modern keycaps are on Leopold keyboards. THICC doubleshot PBT. We all know why we like THICCness, the doubleshot lettering means it will last forever, and the pbt is SIGNIFICANTLY less prone to shine than ABS. The build quality and legends are superb They do have two drawbacks: 1) Since they only make them for basically one layout (Their different board layouts is just some sort of cutdown version of their 100% layout), compatibility is an issue. And 2) they don't come in many colorways. But if you don't mind those things, I highly recommend them I wish whoever made the keycaps for Leopolds would sell sets of these keycaps, with additional functionality and colorways
I honestly don't buy the price justification. I just got a 15 SA profile PBT set which is doubleshot and they feel amazing. They're super thick and rigid and have a nice colorway. The lighting shines through the letters but really slowly fades on the bottom which would be the only issue, but it's not very noticeable and definitely not worth a price increase of 50 or even 100 euros.
What is a good keycap set at around $50 or less range? Good video idea!! Key cap sets for every budget range with a review of what might be best for each budget range $25 or less on up.
I'd just rather by clones over paying resellers twice the original price. Also, most of the clones are PBT, which is great - ABS shine may not be a defect but I hate it.
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Great production quality. Also the narration is awesome, very nice to listen to. But for the gods sake man, stop making marks on the keycaps with that sharpie :)
Actually have been researching this for the last couple of months. I'll say the price is better but the quality depends on the brand you buy off of Ali. MaxKey, Domikey, ePBT, and a couple others are actually pretty solid. Don't fall for OneCao though
A lot of good information, but i would have wished for a form of comparison table at the end to better decide what to get. Cannot wait for my first set to arrive =)
I feel ya, there's a lot of brands out there I've yet to see in person that I feel would be necessary to put together a chart for pure comparison. Honestly after a certain price range it comes down to preference
Been in the custom keyboard game for over a year, 100% would say this video is accurate and insightful to any new beginners. Surprise u didn't mention Enjoypbt as one of the better PBT keycaps.
you forgot a major con of GMK sets; they get shiny due to being made of ABS, the font won't wear off since its doubleshot but they'll start to feel pretty nasty and the shine will be visible
To you its worse, but to him its probably better. Imagine if he just want to change to overall feel of his keyboard, with a full set he can change everything on his keyboard, but with a spacebar? Good luck with that.
I get that this is a great option for customization but, its still well a bit pricey. I dont mind for the keyboard and everything around ur PC to look nice, but for that money, ill go with just any keyboard for 30$ and im ok, save up money for more important stuff around my PC. Thats how i feel about it. Its very niche and very limited, almost to the point that its kinda worthless to have worth. If i understand and heard right from the video, u need to wait sometimes a year for ur caps , seriously ?? Really now, no thank you. I think i wont have the patience = its not for me. U lot who love this stuff, good for u, but its really hurtful to my eyes seeing how much some cost. No thanks, staying with a regular keyboard with boring caps. I dont need to show off. And or i dont need for my keyboard to look as part of an exhibit in a museum. Switching those caps instead of regular ones, id hate to use them afterwards, even if u telling me that they last very long. Still it cost too much. Personally for me they arent worth it. As i stated many times, or a few times. Good for u who like or need this stuff, good for me that its not essential to buy it and can save up some money for more practical and useful stuff around my PC. Good video with good info. Thanks.
Absolutely. That's the thing about being an enthusiast in a hobby. I could drain a ton of money building realistic small scale train sets (which I would love to do). But to most people that's a waste of money. Same for cars, some would/can spend lots of money on a car they are incredibly passionate about. But a lot of people may see the car as just a unit of function. Get me to point A to point B reliably. That's all. The same can be said about keyboards, shoes, pokemon cards and so on. There's a point past the actual return on value depending on how you value it yourself. On the flip side I would like to do a follow up video on cheaper keycaps to customize your keyboard a bit on a much more wallet friendly version.
to add to this, getting any custom keycaps for ISO (even UK ISO which has only a few additional caps compared to france or german) is very hard, most of the cheaper but still decent quality caps only support ANSI or partial ISO support, so the £100 range is non-existant there. maybe if someone knows of some sets link them below but ive yet to find any
Can anyone help me out? I'm searching a gray, white or black (or any of these coloures mixed) full sized keycap set with white black or gray good visible letters because I dont want the LED light to get thru them these lights I have just dont look good (I can turn the light off tho) .. I have been searching one for 2 hours but cant find anything... if one of you knows a website on wich you can search for a set like or just a set that looks like my description pls tell me :)
Anyone who speaks a small/obscure language are jealous of americans/brits in this hobby, trying to find a keycap set with ÆØÅ is not always that easy as why would a manufacturer care to make a keycap set to a set of countries which combined only have 20ish million people a small minority of whom are in the market for such. Meanwhile that small minority in a country of 300+ million like the us is much larger and is therefor much more reliable to sell to.
Taihao caps are really thin compared to gmk or even epbt which sound worse than both. The legends on taihao caps are also pretty thin and sometimes. uneven. However, for the price, it is pretty good value. But epbt has been starting to make double shot abs like gmk for very low price as well (around $70) and is a much better option if you save up a little it more.
I got the tai hao abs keycaps and I actually prefer it over my Doubleshot PBT Keycaps. They are as light as an abs keycap but they feel like pbt keycaps. I definitely recommend getting Taihao abs keycaps if you can find any. They are Doubleshot abs so they won’t wear out but they will shine over time but for me I don’t really care since the feeling of the keycaps are really pleasant
it looks good, but the quality isn't that high, qc is kinda meh since my taihao caps has some scratches and looks like a nubmark out of the box I recommend you to save some and buy EnjoyABS or just find cheap PBT keycaps instead
TBH SP and GMK keycaps, no matter hoy perfect they are $150-200 it's still way too overpriced. Look at Domikey keycaps, same thickness as SP, same material, same process, same stripped pattern under the keycap, flawless legends and $80. Yeah, probably SP give 0% chance of imperfections, but is it 2-2,2 times better? No fucking way What, do you buy keycaps to look for imperfections under a microscope or to type in them?
Domikey, MaxKey, Signature Plastics, ePBT, Infinikey all make the same quality roughly. The thing you pay for is the layout kits, and color/novelty exclusivity.
Set yourself a few notifications for the 8, 9, and the 10th month mark from now to help you remember, and get you excited to get them. What set did you end up joining in on? Cheers!
no matter what you tell me, no keycap set is worth over $50. The "thickness" point is just more plastic which shouldn't make it cost so much more. Colors shouldn't make a $50 difference. Compatibility shouldn't bump the price up so much makes no sense
The truth is that ABS is not really inferior to PBT. They both have strengths and weaknesses. Otherwise GMK, Signature Plastics, and many others wouldn't be using ABS for their high-end production runs. I get kind of annoyed when people constantly say that ABS is inferior to PBT and that ABS is more likely to shine over time. Any keycap can shine over time. You get what you pay for, generally. That said, to the average user, it probably makes nil difference and they probably don't even notice "shine."
These are ridiculously overpriced. It's actually insane. I don't care what anyone tries to use as an excuse. These cost a lot because someone slapped high prices on them, not because of an actual quality or huge amount of effort to make. I'm so tired of this.
Absolutely ridiculous prices for bits of plastic made in the same country. Group buying and making items exclusives is how they’re justifying the prices. Don’t let me start with custom keycaps because I know the kids in my home country are not spending 10-50$ to make an acrylic keycap to sell for over 100$ 10-50$ can feed their family for a few days.
Really happy with my aesthetic keycaps from aliexpress and their sound. So all good. It's the limited buy that pushes that price. I can never justify to myself these luxury marketing premiums.
help I'm addicted to watching any type of mechanical keyboards but i cant afford a mechanical keyboard even a mechanical feeling keyboard im stuck with my a4tech office keyboard for gaming
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i dont use keycaps im typing on the switches
😭 Nice
bruh same lmao i actually dont use the keycaps
brutal
what a legend
Janalphabet Lol you use switches, you fucking noob, I activate it with a switch puller going in the pcb
Edit: just in case, it’s a joke please don’t get mad
"It seems almost impossible to spend this much money on pieces of plastic"
...lego sets...
...Anime figurines.
@@CaveyMoth or just figurines in general, they cost like 1000$+
Gunpla but the engineering is amazing so i shill. Maybe someday i will afford an PG set.
@@Chester200100 slowly staring at pgu rx-78-2 that I wanna buy
@@enriquemunoz6415 Cries in not having 300 usd to spare
this is a brilliant video
you make brilliant videos
You actually do WATCH EVERY video of keyboards xD , your skit wasnt lying damn .
@@RealOxygentv fr, I'm obsessed atm
@@Glarses and i watched all your videos
lmao you’ve got me into custom keyboards i’m on my way to making my own now lmao tysm for making me spend unholy amounts of money on asthetic utensils
Somebody get this man a pointer so he stops marking things with his nice pen
Or maybe just suck out the ink
@@HentaiNat slurp
I thought he was writing on the keycap to demonstrate something.
It looked like just a normal pen you get for $1
Custom legends
"can cost as much as some cpus or GPUs"
it's alright i'll just use integrated graphics
Hell yeah
Allways if I can get good looking keycaps with GMK on the box! Why would I want a good computer anyways. It more reasonable to buy 200 $ pieces of plastic.
I have a weak PC cause that's all I need.
As a person who swapped out pudding keycaps for matrix keycaps, I was wondering why my keyboard sounded so different. Thank you for this video.
Yeah the Matrix caps are much better than the Pudding ones.
Just a heads-up but if you like the look of pudding but enjoy thicker, higher quality keycaps... The new Ducky pudding caps are pretty great. Got some for my son and they were better quality and thickness than standard pudding caps found elsewhere. PBT doubleshot.
Got purple pudding Matrix keycaps not to long ago! Really enjoy them though I cant tell the difference much from those and some Amazon Green ones I got for half the price.
i love "actually the entire of this hobby require a lot of patience"
just, true
"As it seems almost impossible to spend that much on pieces of plastic". Cries in WH40K
Working in the injection moulding industry. I can confirm the main thing you're paying for is limited availability/limited runs. Abs vs pbt and even manufacturing quality to an extent is not the biggest price differential. That will be a few pence/cents per key cap at most. But limited runs can be the biggest difference. When you divide tooling costs and press time into each part, a 50k single shot tool or 100k double shot tool set (rough estimates) with colour variations with setup costs and small run times etc is where the money adds up for the manufacturer ROI.
So what you're saying is that they are intentionally making them available for limited times so that they can charge more rather than keeping them around so that they can charge less. That is, artificially inflating demand and price at the same time so that they can justify the absurd prices. Hmmm.
@@nickglover yes and no. The manufacturer will estimate demand and base their runs on this. At the end of the day you have a cost of investment, so if you can't invest for 100k sets but can only afford 1k sets then so be it.
I suppose that also doesn't really explain why sets that are normally stocked, like basically every MT3 set on Drop, are so expensive. Those should have the better ROI, and yet...
@@nickglover again you can look at it from a pure material and process aspect and these sets should cost no more than about £10. You put a price on your brand though separately based on what you think of your engineering/design input and what that is worth. When you talk Automotive (segment I work in) , you are not looking at 100k more car from an audi Q5 to a range rover vogue. But people pay that for the perceived quality/luxury of the range rover.
Yeah, I think that's really what I'm saying. People want to justify the prices, but really it's just that they can get away with charging that. If we all stopped buying, they'd probably lower prices. But it's a weird inflated market we've all accepted, so it continues.
JTK has become one of my go to brands of middle-ground, Also JTK has been one of the few to pull off a Triple-shot set of caps on a few different runs. Custom boards is a endless rabbit hole to fall into, but imo worth it over-all.
im poor
Damn! I feel like my knowledge of keycaps seriously levelled up in under 10 minutes! Super informative video JD!
Thank you Rita! I'm glad it could be followed without getting too technical 😅
preach
Same
So ur not a sneaker head, ur a kb head
Didn't know there were $200 keycaps. Definitely seems like a scam for nerds with more money than things to do. Where can I buy some?
Link and information to purchasing my custom deskmat now available! : bit.ly/2xuVC6Q
Hey JDTechGear
I needed help with Anne Pro 2 keyboard (60% keyboard):
I need a Portuguese keyboard, but doing so I lose the functions on the side of those keycaps.
So my point is, where can I got to, to order custom backlit keys, in Portuguese, backlit but have the side functions on them?
Just "$200 keycaps" sounds absurd
Got myself some $30 dye sublimated PBT keycaps. The japanese coral sea. Fucking love them. I'll take the aesthetic of them over the $200 GMKs any day.
Legend says he's still inking the insides of keycaps till this very day.
It's how I prototype novelties
I give up. Too expensive, researching about it just makes me mad. The basic keycaps for you are a fortune for me. Not worth it
“It seems impossible to spend this much on plastic”
*Looks at LEGO collection*
And lego is mass produced!
@@Slada1 Lego also has good quality control and a long history of it. These low volume
keycap, switch and keyboard companies do not. You'd think these supposedly "one off" group buy keycaps and switches would be of the highest quality but they rarely if ever are completely without defects. Gmk plays it safe by barely innovating.
I don't use keycaps or switches. I short the key wirings to send an input.
Wait...
I just watched a video about key caps...
What has this lock down done to me
There's a big community for keyboard enthusiasts
You should look for artisan keycaps, they're very expensive but beautiful. Usually people use them on the ESC key.
You will be horrified to learn that most of us have been enjoying custom keycaps long before pandemic lockdowns ever happened
It’s made you a man of culture.
Can’t believe you didn’t method Signature Plastic, they are famous of SA profile.
excellent video, straight to the point and toned down comfortably
Bro you're so good at talking
I am mesmerized, subbed instantly
I got myself a KBD67 which requires a shorter shift key that many mainstream keycap sets don't have, which forced me to dig into the custom keyboard market and many of the popular Chinese keyboard websites like Taihao, Kprepublic and KBDfans. I'm really glad I didn't go for a cheap $40 set of two-tone and instead settled on a GB of EPBT Sushi keys. They are really nice to touch and super high quality. $100 for the set.
I'm getting GMK Umbras in 2021 and I wanted to fully understand what makes them so good ! Thank you for the video
I plan on getting some cheapo ones from amazon initially so that i can actually use my first board, but upgrading to GMK as soon as possible.
and to think I bought the RK61 for just $35
do not stone me pls.
i bought a 2 tone abs set (navy/pink) from taihao's website for like $30 w/ shipping! (i paid in TWD) and i love them! The caps don't feel slick at all, the colors and legends are very clean and the manufacturing quality is a 100x better than expected!
and no they don't feel any thinner then the double shot pbt set that i bought for 80$ a few months ago
EPBT is seriously underrated. Also no mention of Signature Plastics SA. Their ABS is on another caliber. Not as crisp as GMK but looks better when it turns shiny.
Amazing video 👌 do you have any plans on covering pom keycaps in the future?
I’m waiting on the GMK Vaporwave to arrive, it’s going to be a nice upgrade from the cheap white keycaps that I currently have and help bring my setup together
Send pics on discord when they come in
@@jdtechgear I'll be sure to! I'm hoping for them to come within the next two weeks
@@Jdroo20 Did you get your keycaps? :)
Great video thumbs lol I just bought keycaps lol matrix tho.
I have a set from Matrix, solid caps for $45
@@jdtechgear yea got the free mouse pad to get today omg can't wait 4k video here I come
U litraley used lol 2 times in a sentence 🤣🤔
Lol
Gmk is overrated, they can look absolutely amazing but they're still overrated.
That is up to the discretion of the buyer
short answer to why: because people is willing to pay 200$ for plastic without a good reason, so why not put that prize tag
No
One month back I was laughing at people who buys 200 dollar keycaps...
Just spent 400 usd on keycaps jus now bloody fking hell
The amount of times he said keycaps...
If a keycap is just a bunch of plastic, a cpu is just a bunch of sand
Gmk sets are like designer handbags, they're exclusive and they appreciate in value as they become more rare. Let's not kid ourselves on quality, sure they are higher quality but given how the whole system is automated it is definitely not worth hundreds based on the product alone, what is worth hundreds is the exclusivity of designs and colors. They are expensive because group buys are so long and in very small batches
Here is an example: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N6FFP1C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have that keycap set and a GMK set, the GMK one cost me $215 and this one cost $18. Aside from the backlighting being uneven like in the video at 4:08 which is just a problem with all pbt, these keycaps are just as thick as the GMK set and have no warping or other issues. For $18 they are just as high quality as the GMK set except for that one issue, but the GMK set is worth it because its worth minimum $300 now because it is exclusive and its in a niche colorway that perfectly matches everything else in my setup. If you just want quality you can't go wrong with keycaps similar to the one I linked, but if you are buying GMK you are buying the exclusivity and uniqueness of the design. I think the video did a good job of making this point clear but I think there was too much of a focus on the quality. The quality is not important up to a certain level, and it makes no sense comparing $200 keycaps with free ones that come with the keyboard to say they have higher quality, its more fair to compare them against $20 - $50 keycaps and the truth is there really isn't much more quality, its all just about exclusivity
IMO, the best modern keycaps are on Leopold keyboards. THICC doubleshot PBT. We all know why we like THICCness, the doubleshot lettering means it will last forever, and the pbt is SIGNIFICANTLY less prone to shine than ABS. The build quality and legends are superb
They do have two drawbacks: 1) Since they only make them for basically one layout (Their different board layouts is just some sort of cutdown version of their 100% layout), compatibility is an issue. And 2) they don't come in many colorways. But if you don't mind those things, I highly recommend them
I wish whoever made the keycaps for Leopolds would sell sets of these keycaps, with additional functionality and colorways
@JDTechGear Great video. Can you please tell me what the keycaps are at 6:30.
ePBT Olevetti I think
lol imagine spending $200 on some plastic
Lol imagine spending $200 on some shoes
@@jdtechgear true, thats why i spent $20 on mine
I honestly don't buy the price justification. I just got a 15 SA profile PBT set which is doubleshot and they feel amazing. They're super thick and rigid and have a nice colorway. The lighting shines through the letters but really slowly fades on the bottom which would be the only issue, but it's not very noticeable and definitely not worth a price increase of 50 or even 100 euros.
have you ever owned a set of GMK Keycaps to compare them to your PBT set?
@@Jackpotur Why do he need to? He's good with his keycaps, that's it.
I didnt know it was so complex, i just want a cute color 😭
What is a good keycap set at around $50 or less range? Good video idea!! Key cap sets for every budget range with a review of what might be best for each budget range $25 or less on up.
And there I was thinking that waiting 2 weeks for a pair of split keyboard PCBs is a long time.
That group buy thing sounds like dlc season pass in gaming
I love how monotone the whole videos was
Nice
Me too, I'm just here to deliver information
It's my favotire. I'd rather not adjust my volume if he gets too quiet or too loud.
I'd just rather by clones over paying resellers twice the original price.
Also, most of the clones are PBT, which is great - ABS shine may not be a defect but I hate it.
Great production quality.
Also the narration is awesome, very nice to listen to.
But for the gods sake man, stop making marks on the keycaps with that sharpie :)
On ali express you can find G-MKY keycaps and Maxkey/Domikey keycaps, same quality for half of the price and always in stock.
Actually have been researching this for the last couple of months. I'll say the price is better but the quality depends on the brand you buy off of Ali. MaxKey, Domikey, ePBT, and a couple others are actually pretty solid. Don't fall for OneCao though
A lot of good information, but i would have wished for a form of comparison table at the end to better decide what to get. Cannot wait for my first set to arrive =)
I feel ya, there's a lot of brands out there I've yet to see in person that I feel would be necessary to put together a chart for pure comparison. Honestly after a certain price range it comes down to preference
Been in the custom keyboard game for over a year, 100% would say this video is accurate and insightful to any new beginners. Surprise u didn't mention Enjoypbt as one of the better PBT keycaps.
It's so refreshing to see a video that doesn't need music to be engaging. Great work, man!
The only reason I bought gmk key caps is just to flex
yes you heard that right but they are really nice double shot caps
« It’s an investment » haha ha
Ha... please help me I spent 250€ on gmk sets
you forgot a major con of GMK sets; they get shiny due to being made of ABS, the font won't wear off since its doubleshot but they'll start to feel pretty nasty and the shine will be visible
Also what set of keycaps are y'all rockin? All sets welcome here from $0 to expensive ↓↓
GMK Mizu for me.
@@jonathanstone8553 I wish I picked up Mizu. Perfect blue colors. And also wish I picked up 8008 as well.
@@VCM5 Those were my first caps that I bought that weren't stock
A month late but GMK red samurai and GMK olivia on my two main keebs
Second-hand Leopold stock keycaps:v
Maybe this will help me explain to my friend that a $12 keycap set from aliexpress is worse than a $12 spacebar from matrix
To you its worse, but to him its probably better. Imagine if he just want to change to overall feel of his keyboard, with a full set he can change everything on his keyboard, but with a spacebar? Good luck with that.
1 piece of keycap is more expensive than my rubber dome keyboard.
Thickness, anti fading, anti warping are pretty much the only things I look out for. After that, its just personal preference of the design
I get that this is a great option for customization but, its still well a bit pricey. I dont mind for the keyboard and everything around ur PC to look nice, but for that money, ill go with just any keyboard for 30$ and im ok, save up money for more important stuff around my PC. Thats how i feel about it. Its very niche and very limited, almost to the point that its kinda worthless to have worth.
If i understand and heard right from the video, u need to wait sometimes a year for ur caps , seriously ?? Really now, no thank you. I think i wont have the patience = its not for me.
U lot who love this stuff, good for u, but its really hurtful to my eyes seeing how much some cost. No thanks, staying with a regular keyboard with boring caps. I dont need to show off.
And or i dont need for my keyboard to look as part of an exhibit in a museum. Switching those caps instead of regular ones, id hate to use them afterwards, even if u telling me that they last very long. Still it cost too much. Personally for me they arent worth it. As i stated many times, or a few times.
Good for u who like or need this stuff, good for me that its not essential to buy it and can save up some money for more practical and useful stuff around my PC. Good video with good info.
Thanks.
Absolutely. That's the thing about being an enthusiast in a hobby. I could drain a ton of money building realistic small scale train sets (which I would love to do). But to most people that's a waste of money. Same for cars, some would/can spend lots of money on a car they are incredibly passionate about. But a lot of people may see the car as just a unit of function. Get me to point A to point B reliably. That's all. The same can be said about keyboards, shoes, pokemon cards and so on. There's a point past the actual return on value depending on how you value it yourself.
On the flip side I would like to do a follow up video on cheaper keycaps to customize your keyboard a bit on a much more wallet friendly version.
JDTechGear Please do!
and 90% on all sites are out of stock
to add to this, getting any custom keycaps for ISO (even UK ISO which has only a few additional caps compared to france or german) is very hard, most of the cheaper but still decent quality caps only support ANSI or partial ISO support, so the £100 range is non-existant there. maybe if someone knows of some sets link them below but ive yet to find any
Yeah this is also true. There isn't as much support for ISO layout from what I've seen.
@@jdtechgear seems KAT kits may be a good option, they are slowly poping up. maybe more will come out with the GMK wait times
beautiful summary right there, you've just earned a like, nice vid
This is really fantastically narrated, thanks for putting together this video for us! You did great👍
GMK? You should buy higher-quality, full-profile kits manufactured by the inventors of the SA and DSA profiles over at Signature Plastics.
Best places to shop for good keycaps? TIA!
Can anyone help me out? I'm searching a gray, white or black (or any of these coloures mixed) full sized keycap set with white black or gray good visible letters because I dont want the LED light to get thru them these lights I have just dont look good (I can turn the light off tho) .. I have been searching one for 2 hours but cant find anything... if one of you knows a website on wich you can search for a set like or just a set that looks like my description pls tell me :)
What are those keycaps at 6:30 I've been looking for a colorway like that for awhile
Those are ePBT Olivetti. They're mostly in stock keycaps
Thanks you so much
@@jdtechgear Are they any good?
Anyone who speaks a small/obscure language are jealous of americans/brits in this hobby, trying to find a keycap set with ÆØÅ is not always that easy as why would a manufacturer care to make a keycap set to a set of countries which combined only have 20ish million people a small minority of whom are in the market for such. Meanwhile that small minority in a country of 300+ million like the us is much larger and is therefor much more reliable to sell to.
I'm going to order a $200 keycap for my membrane keyboard, hope it fits
this comment gives me anxiety
if u aren’t joking, it’s not gonna fit
@@dezyy8489 Hahaha
Reason why= Money hungry wallet Leaching the larger the manufacturer the easier it gets to mass produce something...
Where did you purchase your custom cable from at 6:09 if you don’t mind me asking?
I made that one!
I hate Abs because of the oily it gets overtime, and there is the sound too.. Abs sounds very "thick" and pbt more "thock"
I just really want some good AliExpress shine through caps but for under $50 aud
very well done video. thanks a ton.
Any thoughts on the tai-hao keycaps? They seem pretty high quality.
Taihao caps are really thin compared to gmk or even epbt which sound worse than both. The legends on taihao caps are also pretty thin and sometimes. uneven. However, for the price, it is pretty good value. But epbt has been starting to make double shot abs like gmk for very low price as well (around $70) and is a much better option if you save up a little it more.
I got the tai hao abs keycaps and I actually prefer it over my Doubleshot PBT Keycaps. They are as light as an abs keycap but they feel like pbt keycaps. I definitely recommend getting Taihao abs keycaps if you can find any. They are Doubleshot abs so they won’t wear out but they will shine over time but for me I don’t really care since the feeling of the keycaps are really pleasant
I also got the Taihao abs keycaps only for 30$ + 20$ for shipping
it looks good, but the quality isn't that high, qc is kinda meh since my taihao caps has some scratches and looks like a nubmark out of the box
I recommend you to save some and buy EnjoyABS or just find cheap PBT keycaps instead
It’s good for an entry level board but if you get premium customs you would want better ones in the future
this is super helpful, thank you! great video! i wish i could throw a pointer at you so you would stop marking up your nice key caps though! :')
I'm workin on my novelties!
The only thing I hate on my stock ABS keycaps is it is a finger grease magnet. I had to clean it one a week or twice a month.
Thats when you reached the shininess the lubey keycap so yummy i want to lick
I don't understand the logic that more color choices add value to a single set price higher. In GMK, there is no best color.
Buy cheap keyboards, if its broken, throw it away, problem solved...
This was super helpful thanks!
there is no way some gmk keycaps are worth >100 bucks just because they're alittle custom
You compared GMK to red dragon OEM? Did GMK sponsor this video? 😂
man I been lookin for some ISO-portuguese keycaps layout since forever
Whoaaa. It is you! You're the guy that did the Batman Parody mouse review.
Domikey and tai hao are both good. Some interesting bow Jian coming I have a good feeling
TBH SP and GMK keycaps, no matter hoy perfect they are $150-200 it's still way too overpriced.
Look at Domikey keycaps, same thickness as SP, same material, same process, same stripped pattern under the keycap, flawless legends and $80.
Yeah, probably SP give 0% chance of imperfections, but is it 2-2,2 times better? No fucking way
What, do you buy keycaps to look for imperfections under a microscope or to type in them?
Domikey, MaxKey, Signature Plastics, ePBT, Infinikey all make the same quality roughly. The thing you pay for is the layout kits, and color/novelty exclusivity.
Just bought a $200 keycap set. Hope I remember in a year.
Set yourself a few notifications for the 8, 9, and the 10th month mark from now to help you remember, and get you excited to get them. What set did you end up joining in on? Cheers!
@@christophersmith8028 oo. Did not know that. I joined the GMK Monarchs. Rough ly $200 cad with shipping
@@ElliotKwan that’s a rad set. Hope you enjoy them when they come in. Cheers!
nobody should tell you buy 200 dollars keycaps is worth, buy clones instead
no matter what you tell me, no keycap set is worth over $50. The "thickness" point is just more plastic which shouldn't make it cost so much more. Colors shouldn't make a $50 difference. Compatibility shouldn't bump the price up so much makes no sense
I mean Lego sets are in the same exact boat.
The truth is that ABS is not really inferior to PBT. They both have strengths and weaknesses. Otherwise GMK, Signature Plastics, and many others wouldn't be using ABS for their high-end production runs. I get kind of annoyed when people constantly say that ABS is inferior to PBT and that ABS is more likely to shine over time. Any keycap can shine over time. You get what you pay for, generally. That said, to the average user, it probably makes nil difference and they probably don't even notice "shine."
I’ve done so much god damn research about plastics after going through a few sets of caps. U touched on a lot of good points.
Are Tai hao keycaps any good..i just hopped into the keyboard space
Thanks for the lesson,. Keep it up
Thanks for this very valuable information but I feel like losing my breath when hearing you talk.
No one has ever said I was breathtaking before. Thank you
Just buy Varmilo keyboard or Keycaps and u have 95% of what custom or more expensive have to offer .
These are ridiculously overpriced. It's actually insane. I don't care what anyone tries to use as an excuse. These cost a lot because someone slapped high prices on them, not because of an actual quality or huge amount of effort to make. I'm so tired of this.
Absolutely ridiculous prices for bits of plastic made in the same country. Group buying and making items exclusives is how they’re justifying the prices. Don’t let me start with custom keycaps because I know the kids in my home country are not spending 10-50$ to make an acrylic keycap to sell for over 100$ 10-50$ can feed their family for a few days.
hey bro, what’s black and red keycaps on this video? 6:19
Really happy with my aesthetic keycaps from aliexpress and their sound. So all good.
It's the limited buy that pushes that price. I can never justify to myself these luxury marketing premiums.
help I'm addicted to watching any type of mechanical keyboards but i cant afford a mechanical keyboard even a mechanical feeling keyboard im stuck with my a4tech office keyboard for gaming