Dustopper Review, and comparison with a Dust Deputy
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- I tried out a Dustopper for a week with my dust collection system, and here's my review. I discuss it's strengths and weaknesses, and compare it to the Dust Deputy I was using beforehand.
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I just bought this for use grinding paint and cement off basement, carport and outdoor front steps. So far I love it. So easy to put together and for the temporary work I need to do...it is perfect. I just need to put it on some kind of stand with wheels...so it moves with me and my wet vac. I am a 63 yr old lady who refuses to pay a ton of money to hire someone to do a job I can do. The expense is getting the right products for the job. You tube is a huge help.
That's awesome! I 65, and I love your attitude. Glad I can help. 🙂
I have one and I was amazed at how well it works. The only problem I had was that the bucket falls over quite easily so I just put a brick inside it for now, but I'll be building the stacked arrangement like the one in this video and others. Brilliant!
Glad to know it works well for you, and using a brick is genius. 😄
The pail did fall over on me once when I wasn't paying attention as I was grinding old tile mortar from the floor and my shop vac filled up way too fast. Learnt the hard way. And cleaning filters is NO FUN JOB..
@@USMC-Sniper-0137 I did build the stacked arrangement 3 years ago and it really is excellent.
I'm sold. I like the fact that you basically click it on the 5 gal. bucket and don't have to do any additional installation. Great video.
Thanks! You might add some duct tape around the lid, if you don't get a tight seal. But it works without it, also.
I have a dust deputy and am pleased with how it works, I have only 2 complaints. For 100 bucks they should give you a little more hose and a few more fittings. My second complaint is more general. Why doesn’t the dust collection industry get together and come up with some standard connections. Hooking anything together is a nightmare.when your done jerry rigging fittings you have to lose some efficiency.
Thanks for your comments, and you make some great points!
Same hose sizes means we get to use the same hose on any vacuum. Same type of connection means the same thing.
Sounds like the same argument for using a 18v/20v battery on any power tool.
Have you ever seen the $600 Bosch dust collector shop vacs? This
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@@JasonCarmichael I disagree, I have a Bosch Dust collector at work and a festool dust collector at home, they both work better for small tools than this. However, I have dust cyclone on my shop vac and would not be without it.
@@JasonCarmichael The battery powered tool means a separate switch for the Vac but you are still connected to the vac with the hose. You are right about the filter, that may be the best part. Put a garbage bag in the bottom of the Homer bucket, and you wont have to fight the dust! No, the little gizmo provided for the tool WILL NOT work as well as a Vac. The government must have rules that Vacs cannot connect hoses to PVC but there are several Utube Videos on how to modify PVC. You would think that in the real world someone would offer a cheap, effective solution. Great opportunity for an entrepreneur.
Pro Tip: Place 1/4 inch window foam tape around the underside lip of the Dustopper and you will increase the suction by 25%. I love the price and performance of the Dustopper...no need to pay more.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Cool . Thanks
This is what I was searching reviews for to inquire about. If i press on the DS i can feel less suction being lost. So when you installed the window foam, does it stay in place if you remove it from the bucket or have to reinstall it every time? This is almost a deal breaker for meas I dont want to rig something everytime I use it.
@@Johan_Pentrose He's probably not going to see your question, because TH-cam's bad about sending notifications. I hope I'm wrong this time. But since he said "around the underside of the lip", it sounds like you'd only have to do it once.
I wrote dustopper to see if they could address this issue......I save the box but with the modifactions i made to my shop vac and the total height, the DS is it....Just don't like losing suction from the start before it gets to the blastgates and so on...I am sure there is a soft black u-shaped foam rubber gasket out there I could use for this...but clearly, something needs to be added...thanks for responding. we cannt post images here so I suppose I will have to make a video to show what I did based on your video and so on.@@TheNewbieWoodworker
I just bought one after I saw your video and I’m very pleased with it ,thanks for the honest review it sure helped me out
Cool! If you change your mind (which I doubt), let me know.
Based on this and other review videos, both of these products work as advertised. I like the Duststopper design better as it's lower profile, easier to set up, and more complete in what you get with it (the DD with all the fittings and hoses is $100). The noise issue probably wouldn't matter since I already wear ear protection with pretty much any power tool that would be generating dust/grindings. If I already had a DD I wouldn't worry about switching, but if I were setting up a dust separator, I'd go with the Duststopper.
I think you described it very well, and I agree 100%.
Just bought a dustopper today, I was looking to get one twice as much but after watching this video I have high hopes!!! Thanks again. I love your video's.
Awesome - let me know how you end up liking it.
I purchased the Home Depot Duststopper, for the money and ease of hook up, I feel it was an excellent purchase and it does a great job..
After years of beating a filter to death to clean it, with the Duststopper I never have to clean the filter. It’s a great product.
Jack, in Missouri
Thanks for letting me know! I'll pass this along to the guy who invented it. 😄
You're awesome, I love you already when I read your disclaimer in the beginning of the video, you're definitely my kind of person!!
LOL, thanks. I think? 😛
I am remodeling our guest bathroom, making a heck of a mess! The existing bathroom had ceramic tile on the floor over about one inch of cement. when I removed the tile and cement, there was a tremendous amount of very fine dust created. The dust clogged the filter on my Shop Vac very quickly! I reviewed several videos comparing Dustopper and Dust Deputy... I purchased a Dustopper based primarily on price. I have found that there is a definite issue with very fine dust getting through to my Shop Vac filter! Took less than 30 minutes to require a filter cleaning! To be fair, I only emptied my Vac bucket, (didn't wash the bucket), and replaced the filter, (sleeve filter), before connecting the Dustopper... Within another 15 minutes, the new filter again required cleaning or replacing. I am hoping cleaning my woodshop will be a better use of the Dustopper!
Interesting! You're doing a fairly unique thing, so I wouldn't judge its effectiveness based on that. But I guess time will tell, right? 😄
I have two Dustoppers, one on a Fein dust extractor and the newer Dustopper Pro on a Bosch DE. The Bosch is my shop-wide DE via an overhead boom, while the Fein is dedicated to my miter saw which gets a lot of use. I chose the Dustopper because of its lower profile; it's over a foot shorter than a Dust Deputy mounted atop five-gallon buckets which ride on both DEs.
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If you're playing music through your radio a three decibel increase requires a doubling of amplifier power. So yes a three decibel increase is actually a lot.
Thanks for the info!
Thanks Dan. Great review. I have a Dustopper, and I like it. The low profile makes it more stable than the Tower of Pisa dust deputy. As far as noise level, I wear hearing protection no matter what kind of tool am running with dust collection, so a few dB one way or the other is not a factor, at least for me. And the price cannot be beat, compared to the deputy. That said, like all of the dust collection "stuff," you'll have to play the game of matching your tool and vac to the inlet/outlet diameters on the lid.
Thanks, and boy that's the truth. As someone else commented, I wish they could standardize on the pipes, hoses, and connectors.
@@TheNewbieWoodworker Couldn't agree more! I have 3-4 different size adapters, hoses, fixtures, pieces of hose (because I didn't have the right size), etc...
@@spencerjw Yep. Thank goodness PVC is easy to mold!
Thanks for the comparison. I'm enclosing my shop vac and collector under my shop bench, with the collector bucket mounted in a pull out drawer for easy emptying. Being enclosed the extra noise is negligible, but the height of the deputy was a no go for my application.
Makes sense to me!
I use a Dustopper in a portable mode with my shop vacuum. It traps a lot of debris and is, as stated in the video, easier to empty than to clean or replace a filter in the vacuum cleaner. Some very light material does, however, shoot through the Dustopper and ends up in the shop vacuum.
The inlet doesn't fit any shop vacuum hoses well. I eventually gave up struggling with plugging my hose in by getting a 2-inch flexible drain coupling from the plumbing department at The Home Depot and attaching it securely to the Dustopper's inlet. The other end of the coupling now accepts a wide range of vacuum hose brands and holds them as securely as I please by adjusting the screw on the adapter's stainless steel band clamp.
Incidentally, when not in use, I store the Dustopper's hose in the plastic bucket.
Good idea. Thanks for the tips!
I didn't know this product existed. I will have to go to my local Home Depot and check it out. Price seems very reasonable and I trust your reviews. Thanks for posting it!
You're quite welcome. My local HD didn't have it, but fortunately I have 3 other HDs nearby, and one of them carried it.
great comparison. Now that you have both units, you can hook them up behind each other and keep your vacuum even cleaner! LOL
One of the things I noticed in all the comparison videos is that the smaller diameter units consistently outperform the larger, bucket-size diameter products. That being said, worst of the worst only allowed about 4 times the debris through than the Dust Deputy. That means that instead of emptying your shop vac once a year, you empty it every three months. That's still better than every 30 minutes like mine requires, LOL.
So far, the most cost vs performance commercial version is the DustStopper. It's more than adequate and includes everything but the bucket. I'd love to see it about $25, but even at $40, it would pay for itself in convenience.
I would love to see is the DustStopper and/or Dust Deputy mounted on the lid to a steel 55 gallon trashcan with a plastic bag in it. No more dumping, just pull the full bag out and replace it with an empty one.
Thanks. Sounds about right. 😄
Thanks for the comparison. Going to buy the dust deputy. Not just from your video, but all the others I have seen too. Seems to be the best. God bless!
You might also want to check out this video: th-cam.com/video/ral2jDOa2rM/w-d-xo.html.
@@TheNewbieWoodworkerThanks! I've all already seen this.
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Just found your videos today, and I've been binging on them. Love the way you carry on, and you're exactly the kind of person I want to learn from.
I've been reading through some of the comments here so I know you've already been told that three decibels is quite a bit, but just so you know every incremental increase, (from one to two to three and so on), is a factor of 10 so three decibels is actually 30 times louder...
Thanks - I appreciate the kind words! As far as decibels are concerned, yes I have been told that, and I'm sure I knew it at some point. But it confuses me, because the perceived volume difference isn't 30 times louder - if it were, I'd be deaf. So while technically it may be 30 times louder, as far as perception is concerned, it's only a little louder - and it's hard to quantify experientially anyway, because the "type" of the sound is different - different frequencies. I hope this makes sense - since I'm obviously not an expert on the subject, I'm just trying to put it all in terms that make sense to me. 🙄😄
I have used my Dustopper for about 4 months... do not have a Homer bucket, I had another bucket on hand that fit tight. It works great regarding the dust collection. I did not mind the noise, but I did not have a Dust Deputy to compare it to. I'm just glad I don't have to empty the shop-vac so often... what a pain!!!
I'm with you 100%! Thanks for the comment!
I use a Dust Deputy on a cart for vacuum sanding drywall. My test to compare it to the Dustopper was to hook them up in tandem. First the Dustopper followed by the Dust Deputy then into the vacuum. After about 10 minutes of sanding both pails had almost the same amount of dust although the Dustopper had slightly more. Then I cleaned the pails and swapped their tandem positions; Dust Deputy first followed by the Dustopper then into the vacuum. This time all the dust was picked up by the Dust Deputy and there was nothing in the second pail with the Dustopper.
Hi Barry, and thanks for the comment. I'm not sure whether this is conclusive or not, but it sure is interesting! 😄
I use mine for collecting sheetrock dust. This kind of dust is as fine as baking flower. My experience with the Duststopper is, it gets about 50% of the fine sheetrock dust. I have increased the % by putting 1 to 2 gallons of water in the bottom of the bucket to help trap the dust. However, if you do this water trick, empty all of it at the end of the day, or it will mold.
Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for the review. I might have to get the Dust Stopper. On the price comparison, however, the inclusion of the hose and elbow increases the value of Dust Stopper a fair amount. I didn’t check prices but I’d guess, if purchased separately, the hose and elbow would be about $20 or so if bought at your local hardware store.
You're welcome, and you make a good point. I'm not sure about $20, but they're certainly worth something. Thanks for the comment!
+1 this. To get my dust deputy to work, I had to buy an extra hose, the bucket lid, and some wood and additional fasteners to reinforce the lid. If someone doesn't have to buy all that for the dustopper, that would factor into the price to make it even more affordable.
@@cmaden Very true. And that's one thing I didn't test, but should have - whether a bucket collapses as easily or not.
On the ‘collapsing’ thing… I picked up a Dustopper yesterday and used it on and off for a couple of hours. It’s my first ‘dust collection’ system so I can’t compare it to the Dust Deputy. I have a total length of vacuum hose of a little over 20’ with a mix of 2 1/2” hose and the smaller (1 1/2” ?) hose. Sometimes I put my hand on the end of the hose to let suction build up then release to help flush out things like little pebbles in the hose. I then noticed a clank noise when I took my had off the hose. It was the bucket buckling just a little, and with the negative pressure released, the bucket side would pop back out, knocking the handle slightly away from the bucket. The sound being the handle coming back down and hitting the bucket. I think a main reason for this is I have the supplied short hose hooked directly to my vac which is rated at 6HP. I doubt this would happen with a ‘smaller’ vac. PS: love the Dustopper!! It works great. Thanks again.
@@tworailsrails1821 You might try putting your bucket inside another bucket. That should prevent the bucket collapsing. I know this sounds funny, but it usually works.
I just got one. It works well at separating the dust from my 16 gal ridgid vac. It does not fit on a green bucket from menards. Also, it now comes with 2 elbows that are more gently sweeping than a sharp 90 degree elbow. I dont use the 2nd elbow.
The elbow that comes with it does not fit well on top of the dustopper. That's odd because you'd think they would have designed their own parts to fit together with a better mechanical connection.
I put my homer bucket inside my menards bucket so that I could weigh down the dustopper from tipping over. I just put 2 bricks inside the menards bucket and then put the homer bucket inside it. Works well now. At $50, I think it is a little overpriced, but it does work well at keeping your vac clean. I think it should be 35-40 bucks tops.
And you are right, it's noisy. Mine sounds like a spaceship from star wars.
Overall I like the simple installation and the good performance. I recommend anyone to at least try it.
Thanks for the review! 😄
Thank you for the review! I just started setting up my wood shop spring this year in my garage. Dust collection has been a frequent topic on my mind. I tried a few different versions of the 5 gallon buckets with filters inside and using fans. For light work or just filter general air they were ok, but not for heavier dustier wood working. I have seen products like Dust Deputy and Dust Collector but honestly wondered if they were any good and have not bought one to date. Based on your review I am now considering buying one or two. Thank you for the great and practical review!
Great! Glad I could help. And if you haven't already seen it, here's my video on Dust Collection: th-cam.com/video/c2sWwWbAayM/w-d-xo.html
I bought my Dust Stopper but I don't think it holds back much dust from reaching the vac filter which is understandable in really dusty situations. Seems to hold back the much heavier debris but as you vacuum, you create a dust cloud in the pail and that get's sucked right to the chop vac filter. I must admit, it does allow for a much longer vacuum time when grinding old tile mortar off the floor. I still like it but I do have a lot of dust to blow off my shop vac filter before I can continue again. Makes me wish I had a warehouse full of replacement filters so I could just throw away the shop vac filter instead of getting plastered with dust as I attempt to blow off the dust from the paper filters....... I do admit, the floor mortar grinder creates nothing but dust. It should be great in the wood shop or other normal vac situations. I would still recommend it. Better than nothing...
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In regards to the "noise" level. For sound measurements, a 3 dB increase is "double" the sound level. So yes, there would be a noticeable difference in the overall loudness using this device.
Thanks for the info!
Significantly noisier and loss of CFM is a show stopper. Cyclones will beat any thein baffle type device.
@@timkarcher6724 Thanks for the comment. I know that the inventor of the Dustopper would vehemently disagree with you. I've conversed with him a few times, all good-naturedly, and like I said, he would disagree. But personally, I'm with you. 😄
Love honest reviews. Thank you for the demonstration, comparison and opinions of these products.
Most videos I have seen comparing these two have them both rated equal or very close.
I am leaning toward the Dustopper because it is much lower profile and takes up a bit less room than the Dust Deputy that kind of sticks out like a sore thumb.
I am, however more considering making my own cyclone dust separator after seeing several TH-cam videos showing different ways to build your own that work just as well and can be made for under $10.
Thanks! A lot of people have been able to make their own separators like you mentioned. I tried it and failed miserably, but I suspect it was just something I was doing wrong. In any case, good luck! 😄
I bought it just to see as anything is better than nothing. I could not be happier. It does exactly what it is supposed to do. Now i just need to set it up so it fills a 50 gallon can rather than having to empty the 5 gallon one all the time.
Glad it's working for you! You fill up a 5 gallon bucket that quickly? I'm impressed! You do a lot more work than I do. 😄
The Newbie Woodworker I hook mine up to my dewalt planer and it fills that bucket up pretty quick. I hook it to the table saw, miter saw, drill press, and the band saw. So I fill the 5 fallen bucket pretty quick. I really want to get a central dust collector but it’s not in the cards yet so I bought this to help a bit and I am so glad I bought it.
@@zachowens1412 I totally understand. Yes, you have to start somewhere, and it sounds like you're on the right track!
Just bought a Dustopper. It works great. Super easy to set up and use. I know Dust Deputy is great but for much less Dustopper is not a bad option.
Thanks for letting me know! 😄
A 3db difference is twice as loud so that is a pretty significant difference. If the unit is tucked into a cabinet, it may not be as noticeable. I do like the low height. i might consider this for my miter station
Thanks for the comment. Good luck with the miter station!
I’ve used a Dustopper for about a year and I also experienced the issue with the lid being loose. I must admit that it does work very well with separating particulate matter from the airflow; however I find the “Homer Bucket” collapsing from the suction. The reason I went with the Dustopper vs. the Dust Deputy is due to the height. Because of the loudness of my Craftsman shop vac, I installed my dust collection components into a cabinet.
Glad you're enjoying it, and your logic sounds great to me! Try putting your Homer bucket inside another Homer bucket, and see if that helps with the collapsing - sometimes that works and a second bucket is cheap.
@@TheNewbieWoodworker Thanks , I did not think of that. The suction created within the two buckets may increase the effective wall thickness of the receptacle, but the added height may not work within my cabinet.
I am also thinking of putting my blower assembly in my attic above my garage/shop area. What do you think of using 3” PVC in lieu of 2” for the run from the Dustopper to the blower?
@@Wegl79 It's my understanding that you're not supposed to go larger than 2" pipes with a shop-vac. I don't remember why, though, so you could always give it a shot and see what happens. But remember, the longer the run, the less suction you'll get. For the bucket, if you can't go taller, I'm sure someone makes similar sized buckets with thicker walls. And if the fit of the lid isn't very good, you could add some weather stripping and something to hold it down - even duct tape if nothing else. Good luck!
The Dust topper is my 4th iteration, and its the best! The install of the dust deputy was awkward and NOT my best effort. Yes it worked but it was cumbersom. I used my self designed Vac cart for both. I'm much happier with the topper. I wont talk about the first two attempts with the Rockler set up, but I'm using the barrel for long offcuts now! Simple things are best !!! BTW my vac/filter cart works fine with all. It has an electric gizmo to plug in both the Tool and the Vac so each starts up without a separate switch.
Good to know - thanks for the comment.
pretty neat, the black plastic piece inside is called a thien baffle. if you look that term up there are all kinds of work people do with them for larger dust collection systems.
Thanks, Joseph. I've been getting my education in the comments here. 😄 That's what I get for not doing my homework before I posted the video. 🙄
Your personality is what got me to subscribe, plus your content of course! Great video for this Newbie! BE SAFE,GOD BLESS!🇺🇸🙏❤
Thanks! For some, my personality is why they DON'T subscribe. 😂Seriously though, I appreciate it.
I was lookin @ that one. Ended up getting all Rockler...$350 worth of Rockler for my dust collection system. Doin a 4 gate system with 2.5" clear tube with mountable couplers. 3 gates for my work stations and 1 for a clean up floor station. Got 2.5" hose for the tools and the blue 2.5" vacuum hose for the floor. Comes in tomorrow.
Awesome! Good luck.
Good timing. I was just at HD yesterday trying to decide if I should use this on my new dust collection cart setup. I picked it up, then put it back because I wanted to see some YT reviews. I'm inclined to buy it and use it on my system, mainly because it does work, and also the lower profile is more visually pleasing to me. I may also use it on the collector I'm building for my Festool CT36 dust collector which will go in my miter station. Again, thank you for doing the vid.
You're welcome. People who own it seem to like it, and HD has a great return policy, so I say go for it. 😄
I like the way you make videos Dan.
I bought the dustopper. Not bad. Better than cleaning/buying filters so often. I like its lower profile. Although the bucket is still top heavy (unless it's full) lol
Of course I rigged up a little thing for the vacuum and the bucket with bungee cords. A shame that dust collection hose isn't really the same as shop vac hose. I ended heating a piece of PVC (not in the oven) to make a coupler. Ain't TH-cam great?!
Thanks for your contributions!
LOL, not in the oven? I wonder where you got that idea from? 😛I'm planning on redoing that video soon. And yes, I love "the University of TH-cam".
Great review!
Can’t prove it, but I suspect that you are right that the dust deputy has a more pleasant/less annoying noise. Perhaps this is due to the way air travels through its cyclone vs the dust stopper lid. In the stopper’s defense we could give it the advantage of having a lower profile.
If you continue to use the dust stopper I would appreciate hearing your long-term opinion of its use vs the dust deputy. Although performance appears to be relatively equal, you may determine that the noise level truly is annoying enough to spend the extra $13 for the deputy.
I bought one and connected it to my homer bucket. At least in my case the dust stopper connected to the bucket securely. Perhaps there is enough slop in the injection molding that allows this type of difference from lid to lid.
Thanks for the comment! I'm actually not using it, and it's sitting on a shelf waiting for me to decide what to do with it. I'd set up a giveaway, except I'm too lazy for that. 😂
I'm intensely envious of the number of measuring devices you own
LOL. I do love my toys. 😛 On the subject of woodworking measuring in general - I'm a big believer in having as many different types of quality measuring and marking tools as I can afford. For me, it's made a HUGE difference. I keep meaning to do a video on all my measuring tools - I think I have something like 20 different measuring and marking tools, maybe more. 😄
@@TheNewbieWoodworker Yes, Yes!!! do the video for the measuring tools. I have yet to start my shop. It would help a great deal. Thanks for all you do!
@@user-po5le7fz6n OK, I'll put it on the list. But I'll just be spending your money. 😛
@@TheNewbieWoodworker If you are able to measure things, you can compare and you know.
If you cannot measure, you can only guess (I guess)
Measuring is knowing.
@@hansdegroot8549 ...at least until you forget, right? 😛
I don't know where the Duststopper is made but the Dust Deputy is made in Syracuse, NY (One of our few industries left in CNY, unfortunately) I agree it is not cheap but I am still looking into buying one someday. Thanks for the vid, it was very informative.
Thanks, and you're quite welcome. Maybe MrFixIt will jump in a let us know where the Dustopper is made.
@@TheNewbieWoodworker Auburn Hills, Michigan.
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Glad to see the Duststopper actually works but I still prefer the dust deputy because it has less CFM drop.
True 'nuff. 😄
Very honest and unbiased opinion. Appreciate.
You're quite welcome! 😄
already have caught a 30# Blue Cat off of these (going to try to get a 60#+ next year). th-cam.com/users/postUgkxzXmlErSqVAEGWFEKO530BvTqFDw53QW3 Definitely very strong, and sharp. Additionally, the gap is wide enough to actually hook a fish (not always the case with circle hooks). I purchased the 8/0, but probably should have got the 9/0 (they seem slightly smaller than other 8/0 hooks). Additionally, having the point in-line helps if you drift fish. I have yet to get a serious snag with one of these hooks.
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Great review. Thanks for taking the time to do this!
Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄
I know what you mean about the decibels/different kind of sound... Decibels measures overall loudness, however it doesn’t pick up the tone at all. Lower tones, although maybe registering higher, will sound quieter than their higher toned brothers that register less on the scale.
That's an excellent point. There's more to perceived volume than just decibels. Thanks!
Good vid. I just bought one because of the low profile. volume of my tools doesn’t particularly bother me because for years now I always wear ear protection with any of my power tools. The saws are ungodly loud to begin with anyway.
Thanks. Hope it works out for you. 🙂
Another great instructional (review) video...! Your videos continue to get better and better and I like that you have taken the time to edit out all the unnecessary video footage that would only s-l-o-w down the important stuff...! :-) A BIG thumbs up...!! Keep the videos coming...! :-)
Thanks, Carl!
I didn't know about this product. I made my own dust-deputy out of wood a few years ago, and it was a pain to make. I don't recommend it, even though it does a good job. It simply took too much time and made me late for making Christmas presents that year. It has a tendency to tip over, so I really need a way to corral it. But I think I might just get this one. I like the low profile, which seems more stable.
LOL, I hear you. I'm working on a Christmas present idea right now. Just came in to use SketchUp to figure some dimensions out, and thought I'd check comments. 😄
As for tipping over, one of the complaints about the Dustopper I read a few times had to do with it tipping over. Obviously it's better than the Dust Deputy, but I still think it's probably not that stable. I highly recommend some sort of cart, or stand, or something to keep it more stable.
I just had another idea - try putting one or two bricks in the bucket. If the bucket was only somewhat unstable, this might be just the ticket to solve the problem (with the Dustopper - I don't know if it would help a tall cyclone or not).
Mine snaps on nicely. Great channel, glad I found you!
Thanks - I'm glad you found me too. 😄I wonder why some people have no problem with the lid snapping on, while others do? There's got to be an explanation...
The Newbie Woodworker I bought the bucket a year ago and the Duststopper two months ago. Go figure??
@@scottbuttrick-w8skb396 Strange. "It's a mystery."
To continue, what I like about the Dustopper is size, price & effectiveness. What I don’t like about it is the effective inlet is limited to ~ 2”, it’s a bit noisy & the cheapness of the 5 gallon buckets available.
I think I read somewhere that the inventor is looking to create a 4" version as well, but I don't know what the status is.
Home Depot has a sturdier, steel bucket for the Dustopper also. 16 to 20 bucks.
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My neighbour gave me her old Ozito wet n dry vacuum cleaner and I hooked up to my mitre saw. I'm always cleaning the filter in the vacuum. I never thought of doing this until I seen your video. Looks like my new project is to make some sort of cyclone to catch the dust.
Definitely worth it. Get the Dustopper and a Home Depot "Homer" bucket, and you don't need to make anything, except possibly something to keep the bucket from from falling over, and you're good to go! Or, if you want, check out some of the TH-cam videos that show how to make your own cyclone. Some of them do it with just a bucket and normal lid, some PVC elbow joints, and some hot glue. I tried one of those and failed miserably, but you may have better results. Good luck!
@@TheNewbieWoodworker Thanks, I just checked the Dustopper link for Home Depot and they are $39.97 I'm guessing that's US dollars which is around $55 for me, that's a lot of pocket money. I'm saving up to buy a new head and parts for my dirt bike atm so I'll have a go at making one for now, we have plenty of old 20 and 50 litre plastic buckets and pvc pipe so my parts for the cyclone will be free. If it fails its cost me nothing.
@@sethc6663 I think that's a great way to go. Like you said, free is free. And plenty of people have made these work, so there must be something to it. If you manage to get one working, leave a comment - I'd like to hear about it. 😄
Thanks the timing came up great I'm updating my dust collection system today and your presentation will be of great value.
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Awesome! Let me know how it works out. 😄
I like my dust stopper. Thank you for the video.
You're quite welcome! 🙂
Good review! If I change my system around, I'll take another look at the Dustopper. Right now I have my DD Cyclone on a cart (Jay Bates plan) and it has a smallish footprint, but it's pretty tall and kind of looms over everything.
Thanks, and yes, so does mine. 😄
I am really happy with my Dustopper
Awesome - that's all that really matters, right? 😄
Great vid especially since I plan on going to purchase a dust stopper this week
Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄
Great video. I work at Home Depot in the hardware department. The Dustopper is a really great idea. Works in with the Ridged dust collection and does a really great job. We don't it have here in my store. I was however very disappointed at the price. $40 some dollars for a lid. They really are making money from this product. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for the comment. Personally, I don't mind the price at all. It's cheaper than the Dust Deputy, and as someone else pointed out, it comes with an elbow connector and hose, so that's got to be worth something also. As for someone making money from the product, I should hope so. 😛 I can't imagine it's easy bringing a new product to the market, unless you're a big company, and I'm pretty sure the guy who created the Dustopper doesn't qualify as a "big company". 😄
@@TheNewbieWoodworker A brilliant observation!
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Your waffeling is no problem. That is something we all do. Thank you for the video.
Thanks! 😄
Awesome my brother I like it,In time I will get it for my shop to thank you later :)
Thanks! Glad you like it. 😄
Another great video, kudos...I too have a dust deputy, however, most of my work is not in the shop...I do like the fact that MrFixIt said about fitting into a smaller space too, something to think about...
Thanks, and definitely true.
The reason the "small" change of decibels sounds much louder is because the sound pressure level doubles every 3 decibels. It isn't a direct correlation. Yea, it IS much louder.
Well, yes and no (I think). I mean you're technically right, except our perceived hearing changes exponentially also. So we still perceive it as a small change. At least, that's what I think I've learned. 😄
I noticed that it looks like the dustopper has built in Thyne type separator (the black part). That makes iit s much more effective then a couple of PCV pipe separators.
Thanks for the comment. I've come to appreciate its design more and more. And I just ran a test yesterday, where I used duct tape to seal the Dustopper to the bucket, and I ended up with pretty-much the same anemometer numbers as the Dust Deputy. And the noise was better.
New to your channel, like these short videos quick and to the point not too much waffling. Looks like the Home depot duststopper works well for the money. Noise is an issue wonder if you could insulate the out side and reduce it.
Thanks! It may depend on your vac, and possibly as you said use some insulation.
Thanks for the review.
I was surprised to see Homedepot using a Thien type baffle. (that black thing)
I'm not even sure what that is. 😛 But I don't think Home Depot created the Dustopper initially, although I could be wrong, but if you look at their home website, www.dustopper.com/, it doesn't mention Home Depot anywhere on the page, except in the video.
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J. Phil Thien is known for inventing the Thien baffle. I'm not sure if he was the first to invent it, but at the least he popularized it for woodworkers.
www.jpthien.com/cy.htm
@@TheNewbieWoodworker There's a lot of videos for DIY Thien baffles. Here's one of them
th-cam.com/video/Feqih_7Evh0/w-d-xo.html
That's really cool! Thanks for sharing it. It's nice to understand how some things work.
@@TheNewbieWoodworker check out the thein seperator on TH-cam it works great! I made one for my Harbor Freight dust collection, very little goes past it, thinking of just venting it to the outside of the shop to increase suction.
That's the Brea home depot! Good choice. The Anaheim Hills super Home Depot is the best in the area tho. So friendly there!
LOL - you recognized it! I live about a half-mile from the Brea store. And you're right about the Anaheim Hills store - they almost always seem to have those hard-to-find items.
Great review. I have a dust stopper and mine works great
Thanks - glad to hear! 😄
I watched you video and was impressed by the way you do things. Hey if you not going to use the dust stoper, I will take it...
Thanks. Where do you live?
@@stephenlucas7736 If you can figure out the shipping, and pay for it, I'll send it to you.
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Thanks for the vid. Been looking at dust collection parts and this helped
Great! Don't forget my other video on the subject: th-cam.com/video/c2sWwWbAayM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for doing this I am going to go buy one. It is more compact too.
You're quite welcome! 😄
Very useful review, I think I'll pick one up.
Glad I could help! 😄
Great honest review. Thank you.
Thanks, and you're welcome!
I bought a dust topper after this video and had to return it. My vac kept collapsing the 5 gallon bucket. It would work ok for a minute and then pop the bucket would collapse and when it did it would send a bunch of the dust into the vac. So it was useless. I thought about reinforcing the bucket but decided it wasnt worth the trouble. Luckily HD took it back with no box so that was cool. I wish there was a heavy duty bucket but I tried several types and they all did it. Maybe my 6hp ridgid vac is to much for it. I would like to find a good solution though because these large ridgid bags get pricey at 10 bucks each
The first thing to try is to use two buckets. Put one inside the other, and use the Dustopper on the top one. That sometimes works. But if it doesn't, you can build a simple support to go inside the bucket. If you want a picture of one, send me an email from my website and I'll reply back with it. thenewbiewoodworker.com. Click the "Menu" in the upper right, then select "Email".
I wonder how much it would quiet things down some if you put sound insulation on the outer surface of the cyclone and the bucket. Dynamat or a similar product. I'm a strong believer in sound control and preserving my hearing. Putting a wrap on the outside of the ducts and hoses? I suppose it depends how far you get the bit between your teeth on sound reduction. I generally wear 26dB electronic muffs when using noisier power tools anyway.
It seems the dustopper's major advantage is the much smaller form factor for limited spaces, as well as being on the shelf at HD.
It's possible. Other people have said it's not that noisy for them, so maybe it's something about my particular setup. A lot of people consider the lower price to be a big advantage, too. Thanks for the comment! 😄
Awsome show as always
Thanks!
okay I just came back from home Depot and I bought myself a dust stopper and I hooked it up with a brand new Ridgid shop vac and it works awesome?!!
Cool - glad to hear it. 😄
My dustopper did not fit tightly onto a Homer bucket or a Lowes bucket. But...it did fit tightly onto an old ugly 5 gal paint bucket. Before I tried the different bucket I was going to add a gasket or foam window tape.
Thanks for the info. 😄
Nice review I totally got it
Awesome! Glad I could help. 🙂And sorry for the late reply.
Thanks for the nice review.
You're quite welcome!
So, it sounds like both are excellent separators. Dust Deputy is quieter but taller, while the Dustopper fits easily under a bench and cost roughly $20 less, considering it comes with a hose and 90-degree elbow. And, you can get a Dustopper shipped to your home with no extra charge for freight. Hurray Home Depot.
Yep, sounds about right. Personally, I'm allowing my cognitive biases to help me feel like I made the right choice. And my cognitive dissonance. 🙄
@@TheNewbieWoodworker it sounds like you have reading or listening to Scott Adams of Dilbert fame since he likes to use words like that. :)
@@spuds6423 I used to follow Scott regularly - I don't always agree with him, but I think he's brilliant. So it's interesting you should mention him. As for cognitive biases, I've always found them interesting. I could go into detail, but this isn't the place. 😛
@@TheNewbieWoodworker no problem, it is just a term you normally don't hear. :)
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Enjoyed the video-I’ve been considering whether to buy the “dusttopper” or the “mini dust collection separator” from Woodcraft.
Thanks! The buyer reviews on the one from Woodcraft aren't that good, so if it was me, I wouldn't buy that one.
Thanks Dan😊
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db scale is not linear, it is logarithmic which means that 1db increase in volume is actually like 10 times more. Therefore 87 db is 30 times louder than 84 db.
Thanks. I've heard that before, but it's never made sense to me, because it seems to me that if it was 30 times louder, it would blow out my eardrums. But then, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, sometimes. 😂
@@TheNewbieWoodworker actually no it wouldn't because the ear "perceives" sound in an analog way (logarithmic). This would happen if it perceived sound linearly.
I'll try to explain it as clearly as i can.
Sounds are pressure waves transmitted through air and each volume has an absolute pressure value. Your ear doesn't get triggered every time the value changes a bit.
Think of it like this, the ear has thresholds for different volume (pressure) values, once the sound reaches such a threshold the brain perceives it as an increase in volume but this takes a 10fold increase in pressure for this to register.
Hope it helps. Also don't talk trash about yourself. All people have different areas where they are bright. We all are intelegent but in our way.
@@PureVenomthe1 Your last statement is a beauty. I always try to convince people of this. The problem is for most people, the areas where they're knowledgeable seem so second-nature, they don't understand that not everyone thinks like that. So yeah, great point! And the only reason I talked trash about myself is because on the Internet, I've learned that if I'm self-deprecating, it helps keep the troll attacks down. 😉And ok, I'll admit that maybe I *am* a little hard on myself sometimes. 🙄
So here's the thing then, about decibels being logarithmic: If we perceive logarithmic changes as linear changes, then why bother to point out that they're logarithmic? (I'm not being a dick here - I really want to understand.) I mean, if for all intents and purposes, a change from 60 to 70 db is perceived by us like we would think a jump from 60 to 70 would, then who cares (from a conversational point of view)? It really only matters what we perceive in this case, right?
@@TheNewbieWoodworker the db scale is not only used for sound. Signal strength transmitted/received from an antenna is also measured in db (as is noise in those signals). Radio waves are transmitted through the air too.
I didn't get offended at all, and I realize I am not fit enough to explain these things in full depth. I am just trying to share what I have grasped.
Have a nice day, or night and I hope I helped with this one.
@@PureVenomthe1 Thanks! That's all we can ask of ourselves, right? Stay safe. 😄
hi brill review keep them coming
Thanks!
Cheaper and works well? SOLD!!!
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Great review! Very glad that I already own the Dust Deputy though........... :)
Thanks, and 😄
I bought the dust stopper about 2 months ago because I couldn't justify paying for anything more for a newbie shop and because it took up so much less space. That being said, I was extremely impressed with the amount of dust it collected. After about 2 months of use my bucket is almost full (meaning full enough to empty, not "full") and there are only traces of fine dust in my shop vac and my filter is virtually untouched! www.dropbox.com/s/xczpl4zhkcyoc9a/dust-collection.jpg?dl=0
Nice, clean space you have there. Looks good! And you're right, a Dust Deputy definitely wouldn't fit there. Good job.
Thanks for sharing this information.
You're quite welcome!
Is it just me or does it not work too well with drywall dust? I had just as much drywall dust in the vacuum as in the bucket.
I haven't tried it with drywall dust, but based on your experience, my guess is that drywall dust is too light for the cyclone to catch it.
In regards to noise, neither are louder than using just the vacuum itself are they?
I'm currently looking at adapting a 55 gallon drum for this and am still on the fence for using a Thein or a Dust Deputy type separator. The Thein would be homemade and greatly reduce the cost.
Personally, I think they're louder than just the vacuum, but at this point, I think we're picking nits. The type of noise changes, though. And as for the DIY version, go for it! Shoot video! 😄
Or use a less expensive cyclone separator from you know where. I have seen them online either in plastic or casted aluminum for under $20. So homemade versions really dont have cost advantage anymore. So the real advantage is just the joy of making it and customizing it...
@@nc3826 Yep, that works also.
Great video - thanks
Awesome! Glad I could help. 🙂
Good reference info
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i bought one today and dust was everyone leaking from the lid. maybe i should try the window foam
Let me know how the foam works. And duct tape is always an option, although it's pretty hard to check how full the bucket is. 😄
Another good comparison
Thanks!
Idk how I got here but really informative video
Thanks! I hope you find your way here more often. 😛
Did they discontinue this? Similar alternative? Like the cost vs others I've seen.
I don't know. I'll see what I can find out.
FYI, I just heard back on this. No, they didn't discontinue it, but the SKUs are changing, and the HD website isn't updated properly yet. You can still get it from the Dustopper website. www.dustopper.com/ Hope that helps.
Great info. Thanks!!!
Thanks, and you're welcome!
Dustopper is $39.98 in ATL. why pay more until you are ready to step up big time.
For my use it does just great.
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Comment and thank you. Yes it’s an annoying sound that the dust topper makes.
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FYI, this device works okay, but eh bucket from Home Depot sucks with it, as it does not seal or stay on well. I put it on one of my detail buckets and it works fine. However, there is one thing about his device that just sucks, and that is it is too light and falls over all the time. I am going to try weighing down my bucket with something to keep it in place. Wow...this dude had the same problem. I think I will make something similar to keep it from falling over. If that works, that will be great, as it does to a great job with the dust collection. As far the sound goes, it's a shop. Shops are supposed to be noisy. I could go to sleep with that noise, if it were in my bedroom. Look at it this way.... it is the sound of cleaner air and a longer working vacuum.
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