Twitter Fight Leads To Impromptu Debate w/ Right Leaning YouTuber Glink
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- DEBATE: Destiny calls out right leaning TH-camr Glink on twitter and he surprises Destiny with an impromptu debate...
Date: 19 Jul, 2021
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We Are Giants - Epidemic Sounds (INTRO SONG)
0:00 - Teasers/Intro
0:26 - Destiny responds to Glinks on twitter and calls him out
5:08 - Glinks joins the voice call
8:08 - Glinks AFK and Destiny rages at League
9:02 - Glinks returns, dissenting opinions, do ppl want truth?
25:57 - Inventor of MRA technology says it's wrong?
33:45 - Alternative media, accountability, Q
40:27 - Is there a single media outlet you would trust more than a specialized institution?
55:47 - There are good ways to challenge authority but this is not it...
1:05:11 - GME narrative and misinformation
#Destiny
Destiny calls out Glink ( twitter.com/GlinkLive ) on Twitter and he agrees to hop into call to debate.
Hi
outside is vitamine D
Israel did a study that claimed that 60% of new cases are vaccinated people.
why do ppl in charge never need to follow the rules?
Link is messed up because the bracket at the end was included
"Science is when people on Facebook swap anecdotes and headlines with each other without doing any quantitative analysis."
- Richard Feynman
“Facebook is a revolution in terms of the scientific method. Soccer moms will now carry the torch, utilising scientific memes to undo the bastardised work of the socialist liberal college elite” - Albert Einstein
@@4thzone697 I actually love this comment
"Sharing your conclusions is part of the scientific method"
Destiny has a Phd in AMOGUS memes.
@@pawlogates You mean quote ;)
@@4thzone697 ;)
People really think their immune system works exactly how Super Saiyan powers work in the anime🥴
Zenkai boost for everything that almost kills you.
What? You're telling me you guys DON'T have senzu beans?
@@downsjmmyjones101 I'm telling you I don't need Senzu beans anymore, I just have to scream endlessly out of the top of my lungs.
tbf its a very prevailing opinion. Most everyone I know has at least joked about it or thinks semi seriously that exposure to germs makes your immune system stronger. I haven't given it much thought myself... when I get time to watch this I can't wait to hear Destiny's retort
Well I see a lot of people walking around with blue hair screaming about vaccines …. I assumed they were super sayins
People need to be told they are stupid again. During my cringe teenage years I would also question and thought I knew more than experts and until my mom reminded me I’m an idiot who barely passed basic algebra
This unironically speaks to how lowering the barrier of entry for people to get wide audiences on social media has made it so that any, frankly speaking, moron to have more perceived authority and reliability than institutions
@John Langley mental health moment
Yet Destiny's fanboys aren't calling him out for spouting blatant misinformation related to the immune system.
@John Langley "such as the lab leak theory, which turned out to be a fact."
Bruh.
@John Langley "polling data where most democrats actually believed that 50% of people who get covid are hospitalized".
This can't possibly be true. Please stop watching Bill Maher, stop watching political content, delete your social, seek a therapist and seek healthier hobbies. This is clearly unhealthy for you.
TLDW: Destiny argues that institutions are more trustworthy than random people who are incentivized to get as many clicks as possible.
@I PUT MY BALLS ON YOUR DRUM SET how do they debunk that dumbass lmao, at least mention WHY they debunk them instead of namedropping shit you dont understand PLEASE
Institutions aren’t incentivized?
Right, and institutions are never corrupted by a conflict of interest and they are always held accountable
Random note: Can we all agree that Destiny telling everyone “I love you” after discussions is weird and disingenuous sounding? I don’t know why he does that.
1:15:29
I mean, I get reestablishing more amicable relations after heated debate, but you don’t do that by telling random people or acquaintances “I love you.”
@@seanmatthewking I think it's half that and half sarcasm at having to even engage in the whole "no bad feelings" in the first place
I'm really happy that Destiny made sure he could focus on the conversation by feeding as much as possible. It's really easy to have a debate when you're in spawn
Why he plays league still is beyond me... it’s such a shit game to watch, it’s literally unwatchable if you don’t know how to play it. Not to mention all the stupid ass sound effects. It’s not surprising though,Destiny has always been the abrasive type when it comes to stuff like that. Good on him for continuing to play a game that his whole chat hates I guess lol
@@2hot4u435 I mean I agree it sucks but that game is massive so not everyone thinks its boring clearly
o7
@@itzAndy03 no one hates League more than League players.
LMFAO honestly dude when he was chasing the camoflagued twitch under tower lik 6 minutes into the video i was ready to cry
"you can creep shot a million girls doesn't mean your going to recognize Britney Spears when she walks in without a skirt"- Destiny 2021
Practically every antivaxxer says that they are not antivaxxers but somehow repeat every antivaxxer talking point.
For the greater good I totally understand the necessity of the vaccine, doesn’t mean I don’t hate the fact that I need to get it. I hate the fact that some bullshit mistake has led to me needing a needle in my arm, unknown medicine running through my arm and nights of anxiety and pain
@@cianbroderick4145 your arm gets sore for 2 days. If you have a phobia of needles I get it, but hepatitis, malaria, measles, mumps, polio, tetanus, tuberculosis, shingles, list goes on, are much much worse
@@cianbroderick4145 You should probably talk to a therapist or very very friendly doctor about that, your life would be much easier.
@@yuikol14 yep anyone who ever worked out even once in their life has already experienced much worse pain than the vaccine could ever cause
@@cianbroderick4145 its such a minor inconvenience lmao. You’re insane.
Glink is the typical guy you meet at house parties that starts "deeptalk" at 3 am and then its something like this...
Lmao this is the most accurate comparison I’ve seen so far
I love the part where he expresses wonder at how "stock prices aren't based on fundamentals!!" It's great people are learning the basics but it's so silly whey they pretend they are making some new discovery
everything Glink said was completely rational, want to explain what crazy thing he said or are you just conditioned to think anyone questioning the establishment is insane?
@@Bill_Dippertly It's not that what he was saying was insane, just that it was basic info that he clearly is just coming across now that most have understood for a while. It's like a 15 year old who first discovers nihilism or determinism and thinks he's super wise. Most people developed more mature views over time.
@@AK4525 Mature view? The mature view is to censor everyone’s ability to have an opinion or an opinion against the establishment and you should blindly trust and believe whatever the plainly profit driven pharmaceutical or media companies want you to believe or lie to us about for “the greater good??”
Utilitarians are dictators with an untested opinionated excuse.
The fact that this guy thinks the average person will sort out wrong information on their own is beyond laughable. Is this his first day on the internet?
He just fell out the tree
Ikr, he could just read your comments and have his mind completely changed lmao
It's the ultimate libertarian.
I think the point is more about giving the average person the ability to at least try.
@@josiahclarke3535 yeah, until you get people that would side to the news that suit their world. An antitrans person would only listen to the information that say what he wants to hear about that topic, even if it's not true. And like that with every topic.
Imagine, after everything we've seen, thinking that people won't fall for fearmongering because it's in the form of "Hey, I'm just asking questions".
@Kyle Kyle The independent media producers (like Weinstein) casting doubt on the safety and necessity of the vaccine, or the danger of the virus then alluding to widespread information suppression in our institutions based solely on the idea that most media networks or academic institutions aren't spouting their sensational, unsubstantiated talking points.
Then putting it all under the guise of a "necessary discussion" even though there's never any information of substance or integrity, just the speculation of individual people with little to no concrete evidence.
This kind of "hey I'm just asking questions and having hard conversations" excuse is exactly what Destiny described. A rebellious teenager mentality that pads the pockets of content creators and gets innocent people killed.
@Kyle Kyle 1 - it’s been approved in the EU, honestly a safer regulatory body when it comes to medicines.
2 - no. The information is freely available. There are many vaccines made independently by private companies. How they tested the safety of their vaccines is information you can freely access.
3 - uncertain, however it seems far more likely this developed naturally. Ultimately what a lot of conspiracy theorists making claims about the origin of the virus forget is that nature is brutal. Nature produced the Black Death, a pandemic which wiped out a third of Europe’s population. It certainly wasn’t a designed virus.
@@zacharychristy8928 Brett weinstein is an evolutionary biologist. His brother is a mathematician who out forth a new theoy of everything. His wife is an anthropologist. These are experts not just media personalities. Destiny is just a media personality.
@@crushinnihilismStop making fallacious appeals to authority. None of those things give these people absolute authority on the topic of a novel vaccine or the origin of a virus. I've watched their material, they never cite any concrete evidence, they just do the same shit than any hack content creator does, they just have a bigger vocabulary.
You fucked up big time giving any credibility to GU. Tim Nguyen and his colleague found 2 massive flaws with the theory that pretty clearly show that it's dead in the water. Eric's response was to cry about it on JRE and make character attacks against them. It's not a potential theory of everything, it's a pet project that Eric stoppped working on decades ago to go into investment banking, but keeps using to fuel his messiah complex anyway. These are smart people but like any smart person, once they start speaking with authority about things outside of their area of expertise they say some absolutely stupid shit.
@Kyle Kyle this is straight up conspiracy speak.
1.) The FDA approval process is longer and more rigorous than is necessary to prove safety in all cases. Plenty of other widely used drugs do not have FDA approval, and all the rich 'elites' of the world have been vaccinated. You're talking nonsense. You know what we know for certain had devastating long-term effects on the brain and lungs? COVID 19. Even if there are potential long-term effects, the risk assessment is insanely simple.
2.) Widespread suppression? What SUBSTANTIVE information has been suppressed? Hollow sensationalist speculation? Telling people not to get the vaccine, wear masks, or take COVID seriously has cost lives. People chasing crackpot theories and casting doubt on lifesaving treatments for pure clout makes these platforms less valuable and ruins their image to advertisers. It's just capitalism. Weinstein isn't in jail, he hasn't been sued, he just shot his revenue stream in the foot because he valued human life less than sounding smart.
3.) Drawing this conclusion with no actual evidence is pure conjecture. You cannot cite "common sense", people say the same shit about flat earth. You need EVIDENCE. Let's say we have it, let's say there was a lab leak caused by gross negligence. Does anything change? Political pressure to bring China to justice increases, but absolutely nothing about our approach to containing and preventing the virus changes. You'll still be told to wear masks, socially distance and get the vaccine even of it was a lab leak. Proving a lab leak real doesn't bring back the people who were killed by the stupid shit that people like you say.
And this is why anti-intellectualism of the reactionary variety will always be a bigger hurdle in the face of a forward thinking society.
This guy has fallen for the aesthetics of “expertise.” He doesn’t believe in the “obviously crazy” people who rant on Twitter, but he’ll happily buy into a single expert who can present a counter narrative that sounds plausible to a layman.
A really good question would be to ask what makes than counter narrative more appealing to him than the mainstream one.
I feel like it makes people feel enlightened to go against the mainstream narrative. Also the level of confidence in the establishment has been decreasing in western democracies. In some cases it's justified by previous fuck ups from our governments, but it could also be the result of how much freedom we have to question and criticize our authorities. In democracies, both the opposition parties and the media have a vested interest in bashing anything the government does, whether to garner votes or a certain audience. I'd be interested in hearing yall opinions as well
@@cams8995 In Canada the media has a vested interest in suck8ng the governments willy.
I do agree it's a fashionable thing to be against the mainstream. Political hipsterism is the flavor of the month. I think my biggest problem with the way Destiny was approaching this discussion is that he is completely discrediting an entire side of the topic without really addressing it. Just because he believes that random people on Facebook don't have all the answers doesn't mean that prominent thinkers who are not part of the establishment brand are incorrect. Discussions on Ivermectin were quashed by social media and the drug was discredited by many on the left. Most of the experts refuse to address it likely because they would have to admit to its efficacy 8g they wished to tell the truth. There is absolutely a war on the truth going on. But it's not one-sided in the slightest. Everyone has picked the team they believe tells the truth and is just firing shots against the other.
The appealing thing about the discussion on Ivermectin is that it does not require taking a vaccine that is untested; as well as providing an affordable treatment option that has a long history of safety and ease if production.
@@josiahclarke3535 That's the problem, it's been turned into sports teams when it's not. About ivermectin: have you seen the counter arguments? And how the ivermectin proponents basically ignore concerns about low quality evidence? If you're a layman I understand not being able to distinguish between a bad paper and a good paper, but that's where we are right now and how anyone with good speaking skills can get his 15 minutes of fame/grift. A narrative is not the truth. It's wrong what social media is doing though, they make it so much harder to figure out.
@@s7d788 I understand that people see it as low quality evidence as it was not discovered through traditional means(long testing periods, meeting certain research standards, etc) but that same argument is used against the vaccines and I think you can use the same reasoning against it. These are not normal times, and in large part we have to rely on what may seen like anecdotal evidence. If you look into what us available it seems to be about as promising if not a little more than the vaccines. Obviously most countries are going to downplay this to some extent seeing as they already have massive deals set up with the pharmaceutical manufacturers of the vaccines.
We've done it. We found the republican Serfs. Dude is unbelievably spineless.
"The vaccines work"
"I'm concerned about the war of information going on where the vaccines that I acknowledge work are being presented as good and I think laymen should be able to talk about all the consequences of said vaccines regardless of the benefit I know they hold"
Seriously, dude is so paradoxically scared of having an incorrect opinion, or even just standing by his statements, while also trying to put forth the image of like this counter-narrative truthy-boi.
Not to be boring, but I blame Trump and the Republican party for going along with this whole "alternative facts" idea, that somehow all opinions are automatically equal and it's just a matter of your perspective. Even recently with just this latest social media lawsuit, despite its clear frivolity it's actually doing its job of convincing Republicans that Twitter is a public utility and somehow is part of a power-based authoritarian censorship.
There was an argument people had on TH-cam back in the very early days of YT atheism regarding things as minor as disabling comments on videos. I may be totally misremembering but IIRC even Thunderf00t made a video or two claiming that people shouldn't be able to lock down the comments or flag videos or something like that because TH-cam is equivalent to a "public square" where people could share ideas, and therefore censoring parts of youtube was the same thing as 1A censorship. It was argued, shown to be wrong, and everyone just moved on and stopped talking about it. It seems like every few years there's a huge argument over whether social media websites are considered public utilities, except lately, like the past five years, people arguing for "free speech" (re: freedom from response and critique, criticism, responsibility, etc.) have stopped caring about whether they're actually right or not according to the law. That's not a problem, people can disagree with laws, but they're pretending the law actually agrees with them. It's a shift from honest ignorance to dishonest ignorance.
I like how he asked for a platform to discuss the risks of vaccines. Does America not have General Practitioners?
*this guy's apartment building is burning down around him*
"There has never been a better moment for me to go door-to-door telling my neighbors to question the efficacy of the fire department."
“Firefighters actually WANT fires because it keeps them in the job”
"The water they're about to pour on the fire will turn your kids (and all the frogs) gay!"
"excuse me is that even water inside that hose? I'm gonna have to verify it first, hold on imma see if my lab equipment hasn't turned to ashes yet"
@Kyle Kyle Do you think there has never been a fire fighter who set a fire?
@Kyle Kyle If that's the case then you're gonna have to give me a large scientific institution that killed a bunch of people under dubious circumstances.
He sees it as "people who aren't funded by X" instead of "people with absolutely no credentials on the subject"
If he's not a conspiracy theorist, he sure reinforce their ideas.
@I PUT MY BALLS ON YOUR DRUM SET
Can't find the exact quote without rewatching the entire thing
He somewhat mentions it 44:42 but there was another part where he directly mentioned funding
Great username btw
@Kyle Kyle That's the quote I specifically said isn't the quote I remember
He also was just trying to make his argument more palatable when he said "qualified" as he isn't qualified himself and defends other unqualified people.
He implied experts can't be trusted, claims money can influences academia and pushes the idea that more information factual or not is better.
If that doesn't help conspiracy theorists, I don't know what is
@@RamzaBeoulves Where did he imply that experts can't be trusted? It's so ironic that you're trying to spread the message that misinformation is bad, while just aimlessly spreading patently false statements to reinforce your point.
Omg I used to like some of Glinks content but his political takes are dogshit and I doubt he can justify most of the positions he takes, this will be interesting
I liked some of his videos too, but he definitely has a certain point of view. I'm still subbed, but if they get more political and/or biased I might stop watching.
As opposed to you? lmao. Go argue against him then, I'd love to see it XD
Same here I’ve enjoyed a lot of Glinks content but he’s so wrong here
@@handsomebear. thats the same childish argument as ( Lol you're just jealous, bet you cant even do better) what are you 10?
One of the things my sister does is that she will see misinformation, think it has some truth but never looks into it and doesn’t look back on it
Glink just thinks every alternative media outlet is Erin Brockavich.
To sum up this conversation:
''I don't know enough about that, but I feel like this way about this thing...''
What a dunce.
so much feels over realz from this twitter guy, which is pretty much 90% of the right so not super surprising
That's a complete strawman. It's crazy how when destiny fans want to win a debate, they just simply completely make things up and just don't even attempt to even remotely resemble what their opponent is saying. There's no way this comment is even making and attempt to be honest or good faith. I don't even agree with glink and side more with destiny but destiny fans are being so absurdly bad faith and dishonest in the comments section that it's hard not to argue with the destiny fans.
@@meltedsnowman9637 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm not trying to be bad faith. I listened to the video, Glink comes across as someone that hasn't thought out their positions at all.
He often ''agrees'' with Destiny and then goes back to argue his original point.
I'd almost say Glink is acting in bad faith, but the more likely scenario is that he is so bought into his own position that he is unable to see past his own position.
+ my first comment.
@@dkfsamurai yea I think this is described well. I don't think he's bad faith, just has very superficial views that aren't well thought out. When pushed to think about them more he just kinda passively agrees and then goes back to the same talking point. Hard to defend it
Basically this conversation :
1- *glink makes point*
2- destiny: "okay you're wrong because of these reasons"
3- glink: "yeah I agree" *makes different point*
4- destiny: "this is wrong because of these reasons"
5- glink: "yeah" *makes a different point*
6- *repeat*
This is what happens when you choose to debate someone who makes videos about smelly smash players and isn't known for his debating skills. Destiny should debate someone "on his level" instead of Internet personalities for views and to boost his ego.
@@yeager2661 I think people with a ime profile pics should be executed nazi style. It's just stupid my dude all it is is "I'm smarter than you" as far as I'm concerned people can talk about whatever subject they want even if they're wrong.
I think a big distinction is that in Glink’s world, everyone is qualified to have an opinion because they bring a “New take.”
No, I don’t think Tucker Carlson’s opinion on the virus should be taken seriously.
John Stewart was literally making fun of those ppl. It's hilarious they can't see extreme sarcasm.
Lol you're in denial.
@@oldtimsrevenge6267 John literally said something along the lines “stop using your head and science to doubt me Steve”. How can you not see the joke in it???
>they can't see extreme sarcasm
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S DANGEROUS TO BE JOHN STEWART AND THEN GO OUT AND PRETEND HE WON'T BE BELIEVED.
@@downsjmmyjones101 yeah that was stupid
If you're constantly sick, you're immune system is not working, it's weak. And have suffered permanent damage.
and people comparing the immune system to just a fight-monster/lvl-up-ur-XPs system is flawed, because it only works to a certain extent. eventually the immune system will face a black hole, and not understand in any way what it is even looking at or necessarily even know it's there, depending on how something will attack the body. no, I don't mean that comparison as in it's literally exactly like that. I'm only saying the human immune system will eventually have its limits and it will not be able to do anything.
True, but anecdotally untrue. When I was young I used to get sick all the time and had very very bad allergies. The more I was exposed to my allergens, the less I had reactions to them to the point now that I don't have seasonal allergies at all anymore. Someone living in a literal bubble would be far more at risk of basic illness than the common person obviously.
@@Dizzifying1 your also forgetting your body just develops things differently overtime, and developed differently than any other person on the planet . I work outside for 12 hours a day and as I’ve gotten older I’ve developed allergies and I don’t get sick otherwise. Anecdotal evidence only goes so far with medical issues and development because you can’t just sit here and say, “it was just my exposer to the allergies and I got over them.” That would mean my immune system somehow got worse for allergies but is fine for basically everything else. It would be like saying expose yourself to radiation to get an immunity when you can just find a way to avoid it without exposer. Exposer to illnesses can be dangerous to anyone who’s have a weak immune system. This is so dangerous to recommend.
"True, but anecdotally untrue." Imagine making that point unironically.
@@Dizzifying1 Some people get exposed to their allergens and just fucking die. That's why medicine doesn't work off of anecdotes.
I get that everyone can have an opinion on things but that doesn't mean it's worth anything. He keeps saying things like "it's the responsibility of the public to discuss these things", mate I'm part of that public and I thick. I have my opinions on the vaccines, the government approach and everything else but my opinion means literally nothing, especially in comparison to the opinions of people who have spent their whole lives working with viruses/diseases. His whole argument boils down to "I think Joe, the brick layer, from down the road has as much of a valid opinion on vaccines as he does brick laying" It's just so stupid.
No that's okay the problem is he is saying people with mass following that mislead people are equal to joe
This is how people used to treat priests in the Middle Ages. I’m just a wretch, you’re touched by God, you’ve spent your whole life in celibacy for this! Tell me what to do
@@TEFFTPATTERN Well, in the priests case, I would listen to him if I wanted to talk about god. Just like I'd listen to a brick layer about how to lay bricks … I don't get what you're saying. Do you think I'd listen to a priest explain brick laying to me? I may be thick but I'm not naive.
@John Langley they're still a lot more informed on it than republicans and fox news and alex jons, and that's kinda what i said... Influential entities shouldn't be treated as if they're just an average nobody saying their opinion
@@TEFFTPATTERN Well yeah if you can't fucking read it'd be pretty stupid to distrust the only literate guy in your town on what some books says.
"...those guys are losers that sit in rooms and invent theorems."
- Destiny about mathematicians
and getting paid for it lol
Sounds good to me
We get drunk in those rooms as well thank you. It's the only way to cope.
As opposed to sitting in ur room all day playing league, real winner there lol
Subsidized by our tax dollars. The red pill is realizing mathematicians are the real welfare queens 🥴
Regarding lab leak, the original lab leak statements weren't actually that harsh or severe, and were taken more harshly and severely and panned by most of the media. But it might have been a mistake to discount the idea so unanimously.
It's not a mistake until someone actually provides evidence it happened.
It's not about proof that it happened as much as proof that the alternative narrative is less likely. Either our timeline is off thanks to the Chinese narrative or it didn't go from animal, to human and then quickly went from human to human.
@@andrewteague114 They've tried to collect evidence from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but the Chinese government has denied access. That's just how China works bro
@@TobyTries. I'm pretty sure the WHO got access. Not total access, but they visited the lab as part of their investigation and ruled out a lab leak as a likely possibility.
It wasn't a mistake it was entirely intentional, they were constructing a narrative. They hoped the story would begin with the food market, but that was soon disproved as a source. The early Lancet letter signed by 20 or so people, some with conflicts of interest, explicitly labeled the hypothesis as impossible, and the media used that to shut down "acceptable" discussion for over a year. The man who wrote the letter(Daszak) lied, and there was ZERO evidence it was impossible that it was a lab leak. The possibility should have been discussed, and more pressure laid on China to open up to outside experts so the truth could be discovered. That is a lost opportunity.
Destiny is 100% wrong on the lab leak narrative
Which one the "they sent it" or "they created it" part?
@@tarfielarchelone2674 the revisionist history on how it was treated by the media and social media. There were people suggesting it could have been an accidental leak, plenty. And there was the usual statement of 8,000,000 scienticians signed some stupid letter that says it 1,000% impossible it’s less than 400% natural.
I swear I’m going to puke if I hear about one more letter signed by a coalition of experts. Breaking news and breaking information is just like anywhere else, a bunch of people are going to get it wrong.
I’m forever ruined by the vaping death epidemic right before the pandemic. One of destiny’s top 10 worst takes is always trust mainstream news/experts. Just because they’re generally trustworthy doesn’t mean you don’t have to fact check every single article you read against 12 other news outlets to make sure you’re getting the truth because if you ain’t you’re probably wrong.
“To you funding equates to accountability - which I think that’s often times not true and maybe even the opposite of true.” - Glink
I didn't think much of Glink but christ I didn't expect him to lack a 101 understanding of how markets work. Pump and dumps have been illegal for ~30+ years and those lawmakers back then sure as fuck weren't psychics who looked into the future.
I'm surprised more people didn't LOL over this and that dude spent 1/2 hr trying to convince Destiny that Market Speculation is a "new" thing thanks to Reddit 🤦♀️
yea that was a particularly dumb end
It's literally been happening since the dawn of free markets 😆 people were absolutely pumping and dumping stocks in the 70's, it's just in the past it was smart money and institutions, the internet has given retail a way to band together and do the same thing institutions have always done
I wasn't surprised he probably doesn't spend his time day trading plus he doesn't even make content on the topic I'm pretty sure. He also isn't known for his debating skills.
I think people just need to stop drooling around on these Internet debates, shit is stupid. You'll get much more out of reading books and doing some kind of sport.
You can challenge the scientific consensus, but the consensus must be maintained until sufficient evidence is produced to overturn it. Anything else is insanity.
Right? Like, its the literal definition of consensus. It doesn't change until consensus opinion... uhhhh.... changes .
Yeah. Flat earthers don't change the consensus of the shape of the earth because they have very little evidence, and even beyond that their model has no advantage over our current one and in fact presents more problems.That's just a clear example. A random theory that isn't justified, or even falsifiable is not worth serious consideration. I don't know what about this triggers so many people. Sometimes you're just wrong.
I'm willing to believe that someone is self taught and able to spot a flaw in a paper and be correct, because it's happened before. But so many of these people who like the appearance of expertise and knowledge but haven't gone through the work are just plain wrong, refuse to admit it and actively belittle those who have actually put in the work.
Destiny is wrong because he is an ADC main. ADC mains aren't people.
Day 1
What he did was not ADC 😂
@@Bminutes i meant in league of legends
TRUUUE
@@Quansen45 I’m saying he sucks
I really wonder how valuable it is to take this kind of armchair skepticism seriously. Like, does being patient and sympathetic with borderline conspiracy theorists actually win them over? I genuinely want to know.
When I talk to these people, half of me wants to meet them where they’re at and use gentle persuasion. The other half just wants to call them braindead and not even entertain their bad takes. Such a dilemma.
The method is dependent on the individual.
I think he keeps explaining the reason to centralize information more than decentralize it without realizing it lol
He kind of perfectly summarizes the point of the opposition without realizing it continuously
Glink literally using the cereal defense. "Science, is a liar sometimes".
"...a willingness to believe, a leap of (dare I say it)..FAITH?"
What is the cereal defense?
@@williamstewart7399 it's an episode of always sunny in Philadelphia. The religious character mac argues evolution is false because "science is a liar sometimes" uses examples of famous historical scientists who were wrong about certain conjectures.
I don't even agree with Glink but destiny fans such as yourself are so heavily misrepresenting the debate that it's hard to not argue with them. It's ironic that destiny fans are so heavily pushing very blatant misrepresentations and misinformation about the debate in order to make the point that... misinformation is bad. Make it make sense.
@@meltedsnowman9637 that was a really verbose way of saying "I disagree" without giving any hint of what you disagree with here.
Well done.
He is arguing too hard about listening to more different voices BUT he doesn't speak AT ALL about HOW to evaluate a voice to judge it's believability.
He's the walking example of what Issac Asimov was talking about when he said that America has fostered a culture of anti-intellectualism that says; "democracy means my ignorance has as much value as your knowledge."
Because he just believes who says the things he likes.
@Kyle Kyle I'm pretty sure his plan is to take the plurality of expert opinion and peer reviewed science to come to a conclusion instead of a psycho with ulterior motives. That Brett moron literally is telling lies bout ivermectin that has been thoroughly debunked months ago.
@@gingerlicious3500 i wish i could favorite comments because this right here is so true lol
I really wish people would understand that being demonitized is not "censorship". Someone could argue that they are being "censored" if TH-cam bans them, but not for demonitization. No one is entitled to be paid by TH-cam.
If all advertisers pulled out of TH-cam, and they just stopped paying every single person in the Partner Program... Are they "censoring" every single person that's still able to post videos on the platform, who just aren't being paid for those videos?
Your argument would be correct if demonetization did not also lead to a soft shadow-ban, where the video is less recomended.
Also, no one is entitled to being taken seriously. If your opinion is bullshit, and I tell you it's bullshit and that I'm not going to pay attention to what you have to say on the topic, no one is being censored.
@@leaslak2378 So how exactly is the video being less recommended "censorship"? The video still exists and people can view it, correct?
I'm going to start a new channel, and if every video I make isn't recommended to every single person on TH-cam, then they're "censoring" me! Oh and they have to pay me a million dollars a video, or that's "censorship" too!
@@B_B-420 I agree that no should be entitled to having YT spreading their message, and absolutely not entiteld to reciving any money from YT. But when the platform is based on having YT feed you recomendations based on what you are watching, removing you from the recomendation part of YT is in a sense a form of suppresion.
@@leaslak2378 Fox News' platform is based on recommendations. If you go to FoxNews.com, they have like 50 "exclusive clips" on the left side of the page. Why can't I even post videos on their website? Why is Fox News "censoring" me?
If having a video recommended to people, would cause advertisers to pull money out of the platform, why on Earth would TH-cam recommend those videos and sabotage their own income?
If you want the perfect immune system just play League. You're exposing yourself to toxicity every game.
thanks for adding the zoomer edits over swears , really pulling in the masses to omniliberalism inshalla 🙏 🙏
Dafauq is inshalla?
@@AustinRxxxx haram moment bro
@@AustinRxxxx Bismillah young one, I will pray for you.
@@Pharomid young one lmao I’m 30
@@AustinRxxxx It roughly means "If god wills it" in Arabic
I appreciate that this guy is clearly debating in good faith. That being said it’s discouraging that even somebody well intentioned is basically immovable within a conversation. I guess most change in opinion must happen after the fact
Even the most good faith debaters will NEVER change their mind during a debate. That is just so hard to do.
@@ShuffleboardJerk very few will change there mind from a debate but it can be subconscious seed for when someone is ready to doubt there personal views. This debate seemed pretty good faith but must debates are just bad faith and made to prove the viewers that the other person is stupid, those type of debates don't even plant twinky seeds
What's more dangerous? Misinformation or the government deciding what is misinformation and what is true?
@@mindlander have you listened to the press sec the last week? This is where it's heading. The Hunter Biden laptop story was killed in a coordinated effort before an election and it was a perfectly legitimate story to report.
I think it's more dangerous for a few big tech companies supported by government deciding what are valid stories and what aren't than the risk of misinformation which can be countered being "allowed" to be presented.
@@mindlander twitter and facebook stopped anyone sharing the story. You couldn't even direct message a link to someone. Then there was a coordinated response from ex intelligence experts saying it was probably russian disinformation with no evidence to support that (Jen Psaki shared that link by the way) the New York Post had their account suspended by twitter for weeks.
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2020/oct/14/facebook-twitter-new-york-post-hunter-biden
@@mindlander the problem is they have become so big they have to be treated differently. We've never seen anything like it before.
Stay in school kids, or you might end up like this guy.
Building a lot of antibodies for a lot of diseases is impossible without vaccines or getting sick. Getting sick strengthens your immune system. But being sick in itself should only weaken it, due to the loss of mass in the form of blood cells and water.
Thank you Leonardo for your constant relevance and wisdom.
da Vinci knows best!
i really think listening to these people talk is bad for my health. holy shit, they're bad take machines. like i was so happy before i started watching this
You & me both.
Join the club. I feel like a dipshit after listening to these tools.
Okay Kyle Kyle. I will do that
@Kyle Kyle I'm sorry, is the virus real to you today, or not? If its a bioweapon, why won't you support any of the dozen vaccines? Doesn't have to be the globalist one :p
@Kyle Kyle yes, we should let covid run rampant for another year or two while we do long-term clinical studies.
All the available data says go.
I lost two elderly relatives already, and my parents are right in the kill-zone, while numerous chuds I know think the whole thing is an NWO hoax. Forgive me if I'm tired of rehashing this shit by now.
I love the music fading away, it's a small thing but nice :)
The low buzz each time he swears is way worse than just dropping his volume to make a muted blank when he swears. Preferably, just do nothing. Let the swears go through uninterrupted.
yeah this was annoying af
It's probably related to YT monetization
Edward Snowden went through the proper channels. He didn't put it on social media. He gave it to credible journalists.
he completely misunderstood the meaning of the “peer review” step. peers aren’t laymen, its other highly educated people who work in the field
Regards of this Glick guy's views...you don't understand how peer review works at all. Peers have vested interests to not have new views (that contradict their previously published articles) from getting published. Peer review has nothing to do with whether a paper is right or wrong, Einstein never peer-reviewed. In fact, the one paper he tried to, was denied publication; read his thoughts on the process then look at your LED lights and transistor-packed CPU and tell me with a straight face that peer review matters.
Furthermore, peer-reviewed papers don't even mean they can be replicated as sociology journals have shown us. Read about the 2014 Conference on Neural Information Processing Systems test, its a completely arbitrary process.
@@ExsoLam "MODERN PRACTICES". exactly. Peer review was largely scoffed at until it was codified in the mid 60s. Max Plank and many others laughed at the thought of mid-wits critiquing geniuses....which is exactly what peer review is. Truely smart people aren't going to want to review papers, they are too busy writing them. Peer review drags all these papers into boring, nonpositional, non-revolutionary arguments, and is deeply anti-scientific and clearly an anti-intellectual exercise.
@@dawsondocuments7203 I can tell you’ve never attended university. Nothing get published without proper review by other members in the field. It’s a requirement.
I don’t exactly understand your statement about ‘truly smart people’ not wanting to read other people’s academic papers… you realise science is collaborative, right? One of my materials professors is working in conjunction with universities around the world to develop self-healing concrete. His papers are read by anyone interested in the field and peer reviewed rigorously. Ultimately, a scientific paper or scientific research is useless if it can’t be demonstrated to be true..
@Matsab I spent 6 years in a top 20 university studying hard science. My experience was the professors that had the most lunches with editors got the most papers published, and my smartest professors (that had the largest grants and staffs btw) generally published to their websites first, and worried about pre-publication and peer review second.
You need to read history and actually understand where we are in that history. Max Plank's journal for instance accepted over 95% of submissions. Many journals continue in this tradition today, and many online networks are available right now that accept every paper after only an editorial review...and these papers DO get cited. The crowd ascertains truth, always has. It's true though, that if you want maximum citation counts (which your professor obviously did because every professor's job depends on that count until tenure), you want the publication in the largest journal with the least number of articles....These are all peer-reviewed. The peer-review process itself gets you more citations because your papers are literally sent to other people who can cite you....and these people have vested interests to be the first ones to cite your work. I encourage you to read the history of these journals, you will find that a significant percentage of them were established by the same guy....and his gimmick, the sales pitch, was peer review. Peer review has nothing to do with science or progress.
Bret is antivax? Ok Destiny. Care to substantiate that?
Ok the "brrr" censoring is kinda cringe, it sounds like I'm watching a meme video
haha editor go brrrr
@@RealChrisHatch I get the monetization thing mate, and I rather have second of silence than this brrr sfx
Well, visit the stream vods if you want the raw footage.
These recent discussions are fire keep it up (love heart)
Thank goodness I don’t have a Twitter! That place is surly one of the 9 circles of hell. And Destiny is in thick of it every week, fighting with crazy people.😂🤣
destiny is a sussy baka
Among us
this guy flip flops this talking points mid sentence lol once he is challenged on anything or says he agrees but then say the complete opposite in the next breath
True, but also Destiny is wrong sometimes. The Wuhan Lab origin absolutely is more accepted than it was before, not that anyone is saying it is true or that the people pushing it before were correct, but media has been pushing it as a possibility recently, and their reasons for why are explicitly said by the scientists here: www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/lab-leak-theory-science-scientists-rcna1191 They were afraid that the possibility of the leak would create a bad rhetoric. But it's all still a mystery with 3 different hypotheses floating around.
@@joshuawinstead7621 But the initial conspiracies about China creating COVID intentionally are still bs
@@stpedro-ht9ng Yeah exactly, but among similar crowds if you pick through the radicals, not everyone was saying something so extreme. Many people were just suggesting that it could've been an unintentional leak of some kind, this started months after the virus, but was shut down by the media because of stupid republican/Trump rhetoric. So people who were not agreeing with Trump but believed there could've been a potential leak were still being called racists/fascists for even suggesting it, until now.
@@17thwboy I've already addressed the discrepancy between people who believed in a conspiracy vs people who had a reasonable hypothesis if you read my second post. Not everyone suggesting it could've been a lab leak was suggesting it was created in a lab funded by fauci but they got thrown under the bus along with the conspiracy anyway.
6 months ago if I were to post on twitter that, "the wuhan lab in china might be the source of the virus through an accidental leak of some kind," I would've been absolutely vilified and called a racist/nazi/fascist.
This just seems like a complete strawman. Do you have literally any examples of him doing that in the video?
Does this guy think scientists don't have disagreements?
Feels good to listen to a civil argument where both sides respect each other.
the fact that destiny got to play dota with Blitz himself and he still ended up playing this trash game both saddens my heart and boggles my mind.
dota is gay... owned
Unfortunately, it's not the best ideas that make thier way to the top, but the ones that hold our attention span. And, unless you're into the topic, scientific research papers are really, really, boring. (Like, we tested how this organelle of this one kind of cell reacts in these very narrowly specific circstances.
Sorry I zoned out halfway through reading your comment but I was reading somewhere else that Covid is actually an ALIEN disease, that's why we're hearing all this stuff about UFOs now!!! cRAzY right??? 😋
wherever destiny shows up, debates are happening. he is literally the DebateMan
Hot take: If u ignore Brett Weinstein on virology, he's actually BASED. The cost benefit analysis says we should vaccinate vs covid... if u don't trust MRNA vaccines, just use a traditional viral vector vaccine like AstraZenica which is only marginally less effective vs covid and much less likely to have unknown long term side effects.
Shouldn't you first need a REASON to believe MRNA vaccines shouldn't be trusted? Is there any evidence MRNA vaccines shouldn't be trusted, for example "10% of people vaccinated by MRNA vaccines develop diabetes" or something? Anything at all?
@@gnomechomsky2524 The default assumption for medicine should always be "it's probably dangerous and it doesn't work" unless it proves otherwise.
I'd say mRNA vaccines have proven themselves, but you should definitely need a reason to not distrust a treatment.
@@miguelzavaleta1911 You're missing the point. In your first post you said "if you don't trust MRNA vaccines", my point is "there is absolutely no reason to not trust MRNA vaccines". No one should distrust MRNA vaccines at this point in time because there is absolutely no reason to distrust them.
@@gnomechomsky2524 I guess he is just offering an alternative for stupid people. Also a lot of places dont have hospitals with capabilites for storage of mRNA vaccines
@@Deadpool-su2po That's probably true. I'm pretty sure though that at this point every single American 12+ has access to the vaccine, whether it's through a hospital or a pharmacy, etc. I'm also pretty sure the J&J vaccine doesn't need to be stored at super cold temperature like Pfizer and Moderna, so for those in places that don't have cold storage they can just get the J&J. Future generations are going to look at us like "why were you people so fucking stupid, there was a perfectly safe and effective vaccine available but many didn't trust it for the dumbest reasons of all (the vaccine contains microchips so the government can control you?), not only did they just let themselves and others die but they actively spread the virus and kept the pandemic going. What fucking idiots"
Not gonna lie, the noise that's used to bleep out his curse words gets really annoying after the first few times, I hope it doesn't last the whole video. Otherwise, great work as usual editor
There only in the first 2-5 min. Because if the ai hears uncensored insults he could get demonitized on the video
@@MaraStruckMiko Kinda curious about that, actually. Does the bot only pay attention to the first 5 minutes?
@@Lazzil mhm why most youtubers only censor the first 2- 5 min
@@MaraStruckMiko That'll be good to know if I ever decide to start uploading stuff. Thanks!
Lmao I love how he at the very end argues that people aren't rational, when he argued the opposite at the beginning when it comes to people rationally arriving at the correct conclusion about vaccines among the sea of misinformation.
To clarify, IgG does generally indicate long-term immunity. If you don't have IgG after an infection, you may be much higher risk at re-infection. We'll have to wait and see how long IgG is produced after infection vs after vaccination. So far, it seems vaccination leads to stronger general long-term immune response.
Destiny’s debates/conversations are so much more interesting with conservatives. He doesn’t just see red and froth at the mouth, he demonstrates his capability for nuanced thinking.
Destiny has clearly never watched Bret Weinstein.
Yea…a lot of what the other guy said was quite reasonable. Destiny is putting everyone with the so called anti vax label in the same category. Putting Bret Weinstein in the same category as Marjorie Taylor Greene or Alex Jones is absurd. Weinstein talked about the vaccine in a very careful educated and responsible way.
@@monkeydotbizness Yeah, he didn't even bring up Ivermectin which makes me think none of them have looked into any non-vax pandemic ending options.
@@monkeydotbizness Yeah, if by that you mean he used some very long words to say the same bullshit.
@@bennymountain1 You've never seen his content have you?
Exactly. Bret has been one if the most well-reasoned "skeptics" out there.
Scientific community holds itself accountable. It takes a lot of peer review processes to get published, especially in big journals. I would honestly think that the FDA is one of the most impartial authorities as well because their goal is to just make sure things are safe and true. It’s frustrating to say that they aren’t held accountable when there is a fairly large review system in place
Based on what? They let the opium crisis through
Take a shot every time a mini earthquake occurs near your ears.
The 11 millionth discussion uploaded this week about what we are not “ allowed “ to discuss.
Aww you edited out Destiny raging out at his Yumi.
Not once have I seen Bret Weinstein claim that the leak was "intentional."
I guarantee U destiny saw one edited out of context clip on Twitter (a form of misinformation)
Bret Weinstein is more thoughtful and precise with his language than almost anyone I know of.
The base earrape to substitute swearing keeps me going
I love how this somehow became a medical debate
Destiny is so bluepilled
Saltstiny that ints for a 1% play and then flames every single main in LoL is Bestiny change my mind.
So the virus most likely came from the lab Destiny. This aged very poorly for Destiny
@Destiny when are you wrestling around with Samuel today?
Man, it pisses me off because I remember really liking some of Glinks videos like 6 years ago, like the video about Cjayride was so interesting.
A shame to see what he seems like now.
He has always been like this. He used to stream WoW pvp and would talk about how Aliens visited the earth and stuff.
@@Misbeliefz jesus christ, really? Musta managed to miss that side of him, a shame he's like that
@@BrendanishLeo , yeah, I gave him the evolutionary argument against the existence of Greys or humanlike Aliens and he wasn't buying it.
@@Misbeliefz Damn, that's ass to hear, guess I'll just be happy I dodged that part of his content/wasn't dumb enough to fall down that rabbithole
I respect the FLCL icon though, that was a great anime
New destiny vid pog
Destiny getting mad that Twitch can be invisible gives me life. I LOVE invisible champions.
Within the first 2 minutes of the vid Destiny is wrong lmao.
Seeing Destiny get so triggered by stealth champions makes me wanna play league and main one lol
"Can you name a single alternative media outlet that has the credibility of a university?"
Quilette
Dude contradicted himself 2 mins in if your isolated and not using your immune system then yes it gets weaker
The problems with Weinstein is that he falls into the ‘celebrity’ of being a well known scientist and everyone assumes that just because you’re smart, you can know and interpret anything (science is very specialized). The correct and non-egotistical thing to do for Weinstein is defer to scientists who actually specialize in said field, but then he wouldn’t make any money through his followers that way
damn, this guy makes some decent vids, I had no idea he had these tendencies
Same. I’ve enjoyed his videos but I think he loses some credibility here.
Is there a place to listen to the uncensored version?
Damn only 4 months ago it 'totally didn't come from a lab'
Time flies man
It's really disappointing that Glink turned out to be right wing.
It's disappointing that people like you judge others based on whether they're right or left wing.
@@Dziugenonas except glink is one of those anti-government irrational right-wingers that thinks we live under 1984 without conservatives or the Republicans(in the context of the US) in office. Right-wing is just another opinion, however there are dangers when you lean right in a specific way, and Glink does it in the dangerous way.
@@sussybaka1095 Really? Interesting, I've never seen him express such an opinion.
And even if he was anti-government, why is that dangerous? Loads of social movements that are seen in positive light by most people are or were anti-government. For example: anti Vietnam war protesters, the hippies, hell, even BLM (though they are quite controversial).
@@Dziugenonas these people generally see progressive anti government movements as being pro government instead, since they believe society is dominated by a liberal/left-wing elite. That’s when ridiculous contradictions like calling yourself “libertarian” while flying a Blue Lives Matter flag come in
@@sussybaka1095 Right. The world is full of these crazy contradictions. Blue lives matters libertarians, pro-government BLM, socialists with 3 million dollar apartments and so on.
Got it right in my feeeeeed!
Me too! All I had to do was sub!
A group of people talking about wrong information will never sus out the truth
"I'm just asking questions about the prevalent narrative" said the man as he exits through the 10th floor window
Wait destiny is not right on this lol
I blame Joe Rogan for this
Thanks lad
In the beginning he was arguing that people should have access to all information, fake and true to decide for themselves. By the end he said people are not rational beings.
This guys talks about how naive it is to trust institutions, but he puts WAY more blind faith in individuals than I do in institutions, and I'll readily admit I'm an institutionalist.
Should see his comments on Jbp and Joe Rogan as farther like figures man, he ain’t that smart
That seems like a bit of a strawman. He seemed to be saying that while institutions are important, we shouldn't discount what qualified but independent people have to say entirely if, while they may often agree with what the institutions are saying, what they're saying isn't absolutely 100% in line with the exact line of messaging that the institutions are pushing.
Is this a Tim Pool clone? Just sounds like an empty headed ideologue “just asking questions “.
So happy Destiny finally got to talk to Dave Rubin
Glink and Noahinion need to have a debate for who gets to keep their profile picture