Fitting an External door and frame, a day in the life of a carpenter!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 2022
- In this episode we are fitting an external Frame and Door to a garage with the help of the Robin Clevett Hinge Jig. From start to finish!
Link to Robins Shop - www.robc.co.uk/
My Instagram - / insta_built_by_ben
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Lovely job Ben. Glad I'm not the only one who still uses a chisel to chop out the pockets in the frame. Seen guys free handing it, but on those expensive, hardwood doors and casings, well, I'd hate to miss!
Should seal the frame before fitting it. Also seal the end grain on the bottom of door and cut out for the lock, helps minimise the door swelling up and binding. It is always those areas that start to catch.
Beautiful work Ben, thanks for sharing 🤩
was killing me watching you step over that makita box again and again. With my short legs I'd have tripped over it for sure 😂. Thanks for sharing your work.
🤣 it is so hard to keep everything out of the way whilst filming. The camera set up takes up so much of the workspace!! Cheers for watching!
Great content Ben and the hinge jig his awesome bit of kit 👊
Nice and tidy job. All ways like to see good clean work area 👌. Keep up the great work 👍
Lovely work Ben! I’ve subscribed! And that festool belt looks the business!
Thanks Ian,
The belt was a birthday pressie and it's so good! No more sore hips at the end of a day!
Very enjoyable video, thanks !!!!
All that fancy kit and a hammer off the middle isle at Aldi 👍
Well done for making the video👍
🤣 my first hammer. Can't get rid of it
Great job Ben 👌👌👌👌
Thanks Mark
I've seen some chippies in my time Ben and you've got to be about the best on here by a mile quality workmanship mate👍
Thank you mate 👍
Great job mate 👌
Thanks Chris
What a lovely video, thank you for using my hinge jig!! You are a true pro!!
Cheers Robin 👍
Most enjoyable Ben, great job!
Are these available on a website somewhere?
www.robc.co.uk/shop/
On Robins website mate 👍
Thanks Ben 👍
Thanks for watching 👌 make sure you subscribe to the channel 😀
Great channel Ben. Try the unika Jig, will do 76ml and 102ml and will also clamp into the frame so the chisels never come out. Cracking videos mate keep them up
Great to watch not seen an external door fitted for some time most r upvc
Thanks Trevor
Hi Ben, just watched your TV unit build. Great seeing what can be achieved using a track saw, possibly the biggest game changer in the industry.
I think you're tapping into an area that most people are interested in. Carpentry in the home is where I think the most interest is. Lots of TH-camrs doing bits of everything, but not many doing round the house jobs.
And remember that not everyone watching is a chippy, but they're easily influenced by being able to watch the process from materials to product.
Other than Robin Clevett, not many people covering your content.
Best of luck, I've subscribed 🤗
I'm not safety Police, but for your own sake get some protection on your mince pies🕶️👓😎
Jed
Cheers Jed,
I have got all the PPE but completely forgot to wear most of it. The day becomes manic when filming it and I tend to forget the simple stuff! But thanks for the comment! Keep watching them! 👍
Nice installation very carefully executed. I was interested to see how stable the TREND door foot was when you were working on the door. I have 15 doors to install and have usually just clamped one end in the workmate. Would you recommend the trend
Hi mate. Thank you for watching. The trend door holders are really good. You need to fiddle with them a bit to get the width correct to start with but once that is right they are super sturdy. Perfect for a big door job like your one
Great video mate! Would like to see a review on the festool tool belt 👍🏽
Hi Ben, iv just subscribed. Lovely demo of Robins hinge jig. My wife ordered one for me as a surprise which arrived yesterday. Only she didn't know Rob makes two versions. We got the 3 inch version but Robin has very kindly offered to send me a complamentry 4 inch one. What a service.
I was queries to see that you prefer to install the hinge on the door before the frame. I usually do it the other way round, I also usually prefer to avoid the mid rail when installing the lock.
Great video
Thanks Dan,
I don't think there is a right or wrong order to do things. Just do what you are comfortable with. The end result is the same. The latch I used was quite deep and I wanted to avoid the glass with the spade bit. 👍
@@BuiltByBen-YT hi Ben, you are absolutely right there are many ways to skin a cat and we all do things differently. That's part of the charm when guys like Robin and yourself take the time to make videos to share the knowledge.
Again a nice video
Brilliant Ben mate
Cheers Logan ,nice one 👍
Great video buddy, I would suggest in future, when fitting the new frame, square the frame whilst it’s still on the bench or use a carpenters square after fixing one side of the frame in the aperture. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
We all have different ways and that's the beauty of carpentry 🤗
Nice work.
Thank you
iv made a hinge jig out of trespa the hinges are open kind of c shape all 3 are on a full door height 9 and 6 no measuring router all 3 in one and you can use it with door stops on works a treat I use a baton which can be removed for left and right and no baton for the frame
Sounds decent Kevin 👌
Be good to see a review of the belt mate
Cheers Stu
Very new to this type of DIY as my day job is in the IT world. Love your videos. The only thing more I would like to see is when you use screws an fixings would be a quick shot/explanation of what you are using. For example, what you used to screw the frame to the brickwork?
Thanks for watching Stephen. I'll try to include it in the future
I would have used 6mm self cutting screws into 7mm brown wall plugs, to screw the frame to the brickwork. 5mm are a bit too flimsy and can snap easy. My favourite are Screwfix Turbogold but there are stronger self cutting screws. Nice suspenders and tool pouches!
@@KEVINNAIRN-ye9bk I find 6mm sometimes causes the brick to burst in this application?
Watched your boxing
In vid very well explained and looks a banging job thanks
Thanks Rob. Make sure you subscribe 👍
I have mate
Bet your glad you changed multi tool ben watched kitchen vid
The new multi tool is by far a clear winner!
I would have liked to see the fixings that you used to fix the frame into the brick work. I assume you drilled through the frame with a wood bit and then into the brick using a masonry bit, but did you use a raw plug in the brick or did you use and masonry anchor
I just used a brown plug and and 100mm screws 👍 don't rate fisher bolts or 8mm no plugs
Nice one matey
Nice one Patrick. Thanks for watching
Got all gear but uses a combi drill for them brick fixings
The level of detail you provide is great for a non chippy like me and has already been put to good use.
What did you do about the gap under the sill? Great video mate
Hi Callum,
I ended up wedging it with treated wood. Then filling the gaps with expanding foam. Then sticking a black trim over the face to match the black brick work. I am not a fan of putting cement under doors as the foot traffic will always break it up eventually. Hope that helps 👍
That's a different door that you've hung as you hinged the first one the wrong hand? Unless you've planed the hinges out and started again?
Use a one piece trend jig much quicker and easier to use, in all my years hanging doors I've never seen anyone use a single hinge jig it's too much messing around.
Wots to stop someone smashing the glass in the door and climbing in!
Absolutely nothing. That's just a break in. I can't stop those
Hi Ben, great video tutorial thanks. Can I just ask, as a total amateur, did you use a guide bush on the router or was the cutter bearing guided?
It's a bearing guided router bit. They call it a flush cutter. I'm just about to set up an amazon shop which will have all of these types of things in so hopefully that will help 👍
Nice jig!!! Tip... the opening leaf of the hinge goes on the door solid part goes to frame?
Always done it the other way Jimmy! I don't think it matters as long as the three are the same. 🤷
@@BuiltByBen-YT I was taught to have the opening leaf to door it makes sense to put solid part on the fixed frame? with opening leaf to frame I guess it makes the hinge weaker that's only my guess.. still you done a good job 👍 I'm just coming off the old hammer and chisel to chop hinges in! looking to use jigs much quicker :-)
Certainly quicker on a new door and lining. Especially if the stops are not on yet
You say you been using the jigs for years, I didn't realise they had been out that long about 18 months? Just curious but how much do you charge for the job you just did and have you tried the trend jig that does the door and frame? Great video
Iv had them for about 3 yrs I'm pretty sure. That job would usually be about £250 labour. I havnt tried the trend jig but iv heard good things
Trend hinge jig is the best no measurement to do
Nice video. Genuine question, why do you not use the cross string line method on installing the door frame? The existing brickwork can be ‘twisted’ and you dont want the frame replicating that. Biggest question though is, as a joiner of nearly forty years in the U.K., being as you are working outside, how come it wasnt raining???
I maybe trust the brickie too much 🤣 I do run my eye down it before any installation just to see if anything suspicious and if there is anything slight you can usually knock it a few mm on the screws. The sun was just a bit of luck I think 🤔
😍😍😍😁
Finish the door and frame before fitting it, hang door in frame before fitting fit door and frame as one unit. Plumb up hinge side and move latch side to suit the door. Removes any twist.
We all do it differently mate. Whatever is most comfortable for you 😌
@@BuiltByBen-YT but putting in in unfinished how do you seal the whole frame
It was a very dry area with a dpc under the cill so I wasn't too concerned. As long as the mastic is done correctly it should hold up fine 👍
@@BuiltByBen-YT didn't even seal with silicone under cill. Why is that
I let the customer paint it before I do any sealing up mate. Other wise the paint job can look messy 👍
Hello Ben
Where did you buy your Festool belt & pouch ? Have you got a link cheers
Hi Brian,
It's the link below on my amazon shop 👍
amzn.to/3yv63GR
Great vid. Out if curiosity no weather bar/strip and rebate on door.
Hi and thanks.
Customer did not want the Rebate on the cill because of it being so heavily used. I did fit a drip but forgot to put it in the vid 👍
@@BuiltByBen-YT makes sense, I did wonder if that might be the case. Looking forward to more of your vids. Top job.👍👍
Was that an 800 level used to plum the leg????
i'm a bit confused as to why you lifted door up and not lower it to the ground then add a cover at top, surely you have larger gap at bottom to fill which is not the same height as internal floor am I missing something ?
You can do it how you want really. I usually prefer to lift up to top because there isn't a brilliant way to cover the top without making it look disproportionate. Whereas at the bottom you can hide it all. The floor level wasn't a problem on this occasion
Nice job but personally I prefer to pre-assemble the frame,hang the door and pre-treat the frame and the door all around pre-installation.
This is to ensure that the item's are truly sealed all round as off the shelf doors and frames are utter rubbish these days and don't last.
The doors are either veenered chipboard or laminated softwood with a veneer on, complete crap.
I suspect that the underside of that cill will never see a finish applied and will undoubtebly soak up the moisture hence any manufacture warranty on the door or frame void.
Hi Kevin,
We all do it differently mate, based on the circumstances of the job in hand. I make decisions based on the project I am working on and the decisions I make are different every time. The end product is the most important bit and if that is correct it doesn't matter how you get there! If you watch closely there is a DPC under the cill and the cill itself sits 20mm off the brickwork anyway. This is a also a very dry area with astro turf instead of grass so no moisture is held for very long. Hope that explains it a bit better for you. Cheers for watching!
3mm off the bottom 😂 that's going to rub come winter and I'm not even a chippy 3mm indoors is fine but not outside. Sorry I've just clicked of course, you want them to call you back to plain the bottom 😂😂? £££. Anyway good video.
Why would you assume that? I never want to go back to a job
Duno why people get glass doors on garages I don’t 1 last week tried to talk them in the getting a soiled one but they were having non of it
Does nobody back bevel the hinge edge now before fitting hinge🤔
Showing your age now, old fashion idea nowadays,but I still do it😮...
You don't need to plane or saw a back bevel on the hinge side, as modern hinges especially fire rated hinges leave a 3mm gap when closed parallel.
What’s the Festool tool belt like Ben ??
Can highly recommend although when working above head height it can get uncomfortable around the shoulders. I now remove the braces for over head work and it's comfy just as a waist belt.
Will do a video on it soon as a few people have asked
Am I the only one to notice you’ve hinged the door on the wrong side, how did you correct that?
You are correct, noticed that also, with the hinges the way he fitted them to the door it would be hung on the left opening out over with glass at top.
I spotted that aswell, must of had a good price in for the job to cover for his cock up and buy another door.
What door stand are you using?
Link below buddy. They are so good!
Pro-fit Innovations Magic Gripper Adjustable Door Clamp 2 Pack amzn.eu/d/jchjKbb
It always baffles me that a carpenter would buy something made by a carpenter. You’re a carpenter. Make one.
Carpenter fits things made by a joiner.
Two different trades. Linked by the use of wood. Joiner uses a big workshop and fixed machinery. Carpenters work on site using power tools etc 👍
@@BuiltByBen-YT I thought Robin was a carpenter.
Oh I see what you mean. I thought you meant the door! Robin clevetts hinge jig requires a cnc machine to mill the shape millimeter perfect. I could make one myself if I spent the time on it but it would cost me the same in time. Plus its nice to support another carpenter who is trying to launch a good product.
Bin making MDF jigs for year's doesn't take long. It's only scrap material normal.
What speed do you need the router on?
I just run it at its quickest mate! 👌
How can you hang a door with out shooting it in
The frames come the correct size for the door so as long as it's fitted square the door should go straight in 👌
Never never should you shoot a new door into a new frame, doing something wrong if you need to.
Yea most new doors fit the frame with minimal planing if any
It’s funny isn’t it I’ve probably hung about 14 million doors (roughly 😂) and I still check how tall it is every time
🤣 we all do it.
That tool belt was overkill for a pencil
🤣
XL Joinery frame?
Yes it was 👍
Don’t you need to rebate over the weather bar. Rather than just cutting the bottom of the door square?
Hi Daniel,
The customer did not want a weather bar as it would of got wrecked due to foot traffic. I fitted a drip to the door after the video was taken. Forgot to film it 👍
Did you put a leading edge on the hinge side before you fitted the hinges or did I miss that 🪚🔨.?
Better job would be to seal the frame before fixing 🪚🔨
Was that an 800 level used to plum the leg????
Yes, didn't have my 1800 on the van