SMALL CORRECTION: I should have said Tanya is South African since Zulu is spoken there. Whereas Egypt is in North Africa. Don't want people thinking I don't know Egypt is in Africa lol. I enjoy Mortal Kombat 1 very much but since I always get comments calling the game woke, I decided to finally analyze the entire game; including DLC. Do you think Mortal Kombat 1 is woke? Let me know in the comments. Whatever the case, I hope the developers are more Fan-Focused with future content.
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming well yes it is in some way woke but I must admit the graphics are imo beautiful. It is not a bad game. But it has a rushed story ending. And Invasion mode is pretty dull.
No, no, no. Hold up, Underdog I can’t let this slide. You are the LAST person to be talking about Woke. Because I remember in of the game most of these changes, never bothered you. I only thing I do agree with is the costumes being censored. That’s been my problem too, but everything I don’t what the big deal. Tanya and Mileena being together. That’s been a thing in MKX and MK11 double down on it. What’s the issue now? And I REALLY DON’T get the issue that you and other people have against genderband. First of all it’s a NEW TIMELINE, ofc things are going be different especially with the characters. They warned us this when the game was FIRST Announced! Like are you guys dumb or something? They been told us this. Why everyone complaining about this now? Plus Underdog, I need to get on you specifically. Cause when it speculated Bo Rai Cho, and Fujin got genderband. You didn’t bat an eye to it, and in fact you were all for it. But when it came to Cyber ninjas and Johnny Cage. You over here making a fuss about it. The whole males being depowered doesn’t really work here. Shang Tsung especially doesn’t. He SUPPOSED to not be a sorcerer. That is the point. Do you not remember how much of a problem he cause in the last timeline!? OFC Lui Kang not giving his powers back that wouldn’t make sense at all! Look how much damage he cause when he got powers in the story mode. The same applies to Shao and Johnny Cage. While I miss Johnny green glow he hasn’t fell in love yet properly or had someone dear to protect. That lines up pretty well in the lore.
mortal kombat has unfortunately become Woke for a long time, since Mortal Kombat X and the controversy over the outfits of the female characters that you yourself had denounced, and it went from bad to worse with Mortal Kombat 11 and Skarlet and her Burqua, Shao Kahn who talks like Trump, and Sheeva with her feminist 2.0 sentences, and that's not to mention Jax's arcade ending where he literally changes history to transform America into Mortal Kombat's Wakanda.
Was a fan, just unsubbed. This feels so much like bait. Guy complains about outfits not showing enough skin. Shows outfits for Japanese games 😂. A culture famous for treating women well. Oh no a black character in my fighting game not like she was before. Also saying she should be a new character is laughable. All mk fans hated the new characters from the last 2 or 3 games aside maybe 2. Sad to see. I remember you quit teaching to do this you should be smarter than this You were an educator. This is called progress the reason this was probably the most financially successful mk so being "woke" clearly didn't matter that much. Also do you as an individual want to be associated with borderline racists and sexist people who hop onto these band wagons. If the game is not to your liking, move on.
The thing is in MKX Kung Jin isn't refined as being a gay character. He's a character who just happens to be gay. And many people didn't even notice it until few days later because it wasn't explicitly stated in the game (only hinted through some intros). The writers (specifically Brian Chard) made sure that Jin's homosexuality was only a small part of who he is, not all of who he is.
@@perfectorganism2504 nothing is being "shoved" in anyone's face. No more than putting Liu Kang and Kitan's heterosexual relationship for several games was "shoving" hetero in people's faces.
@@perfectorganism2504as opposed to straight relationships literally being everywhere and forced down our throats? Have you ever seen a Disney movie? Y’all had centuries of straight relationship and not once did LGBT ppl complain but y’all throw a fit when two women romantically make eye contact 😂 please
So gay characters are allowed to exist in your world but they can't talk about it or have that be part of their struggles and identity. Got it. How generous of you.
As a game designer i dont think having a gay or bi character makes a game woke. I think its all about how its executed. Because there is a difference between a character who happens to be gay vs a character whose entire persona is being gay. Case in point, Taash from Dragon Age the veilguard. The difference between progressive and woke is that woke people will force their ideology on you whether you like it or not. They will force that ideology down popular IPs that don't make sense inside the game. I do however absolutely hate *gender and race swaps*. They are disrespectful because they indirectly tell people "Your race, history and culture don't deserve a new character who is unique so stfu and accept this cheap race swap cuz that's all you're gonna get." Lastly Dragon Age itself serves a good example of it. DA Inquisition has gay characters but it doesnt feel woke because the writing is done well, it never betrays the world its in or feel out of place. The writing and dialogue of the characters never became a mouthpiece for a dev to lecture you, the player. However in DA Veilguard, the whole game feels like a lecture. I think most people are indifferent and dont care about lgbt, which is fine and imo should be the goal. That you shouldn't care about someone's sexuality. That's progressive. Woke is forcing people to care about it and if they don't, throwing a fit over it. A good game even with progressive ideas, lgbt people etc will be a good game if it encourages you to think. A bad game will tell you what to think. PS: Kudos to you for even covering this topic because i have seen many youtubers be afraid of saying this openly because they think they will be cancelled or be seen as part of the "chuds".
@@RyderTheGayRaptorUwU you never had many to begin with what is said is perfectly fine because precipitating words like "i" highlight that opinion is to follow also the woke vs progressive is true though id call it woke vs. accurate representation. aka an authentic human being. Taash is literally an unlikable bully where as in cyberpunk the trans and gay characters are your allies and are endearing characters
Maybe don't use a dog whistle word that's been weaponized as an excuse to spew bigotry to make your arguments and then people won't see you as a "chud". Just because "woke" isn't an excuse for bigotry for everyone, doesn't negate the fact that a lot of people use it that way, so why even suggest that you could be aligned with those who spew vitriolic nonsense when you could just say you don't like badly designed characters and storylines.
Your daddy edged by a philosophy. he was a Sigma for real He believed that if you could rizz up a gyatt maxxer with level 10 aura you had a moral obligation to do those things. That's how you become a Sigma! Not choice, Rizz ability. I'm edging to create a world without betas. Any of you goons have enough rizz to guess just how?Yes Genocide. Based, but the solution I'm cooking is more... deadass. What about mewing? And you are? He calls himself the amazing rizzler but he's just a Beta from his class.
Is that seriously your only rebuttal to him? Or are you trying to keep this low-brow. Respectfully, I will be shocked if you support this video. You never seemed like that sort of person. I’m really hoping this comment is one of your many rebuttals to this video.
MK has been going anti-fanservice since MKX, i wonder if it's WB playing a hand at that because literally every game until MK9 was not afraid of having girl characters looking sexy.
@@dylansharp8471 when you compare them all to MK9, they toned down the fanservice by alot, and when they did it was either on very few characters or relegated to DLC skins. Every girl in MK9 had a sexy default costume and alt.
Maybe, just maybe, they wanted to stop using sex appeal to sell their game because it has been criticized for being sexist over multiple companies like Carls Jr, Hooters, etc. Like they used to give them jiggle physics I think they were justified in toning down the boob fetish….
It’s not that the women aren’t attractive it’s that their outfits are more realistic.I don’t think anyone would be fighting in outfits that literally look like swimsuits
Yeah, he kept saying "Some would conciser it woke" when it was Petty clear how he felt...... Sure wasn't shy about saying "what the fans wanted" or "Nobody asked for".
@@lashakhmelidze1665 woke was a neutral term to describe someone who was socially aware. Co opted by certain TH-camrs is now pejorative. When you ask certain people what "woke" means they can't tell you. You'll say woke is bad but ignore bestsellers baldurs Gate 3, Horizon, Spiderman 2, The last of us. Grifter money is enticing I get it. A couple of facts sprinkled into BS argument doesn't make the argument more true. The fact is now, "woke" is coded language for "anything I don't like. "
We knew for a while WB were money grubbers too. He even admitted that when he Debunked gaming sins on MKx. (And Unfortunately they have to be money-grubbing to have games of okayish quality these days)
3:02 bro, it was "woke" in MK 10, but we didn't have a term for it then. And it wasn't on the nose. 3:12 most players didn't even know kung jin was gay. Heck, I'm just finding that out now. Do you know why people didn't know or care about kung jin being gay? It's because it wasn't on the nose and kung jin was busy with other important things instead of showing us how gay he was. It's pretty obvious why these things were done, but you always have an excuse that's very unlikely. An all female royal guard? Yes, they did copy marvel but they only did so because it seemed "progressive". Even in the marvel comics where it was done, it was nonsensical but back then, it wasn't everywhere you looked. Stop acting like you don't know the truth. You pretty much just said that the new "Tanya" could have been an original black character but they instead chose to change Tanya into a black woman. Then you gave an excuse for it, disregarding your previous answer which made more sense.
Clearly some ppl don't don't know what WOKE means and will use it complain about anything that isn't in their favor. What about greed and bad marketing principles. NRS is clearly doing Warner Bros bidding and money is the motive.
For the MKX featuring Gay characters it was very subtle such as Kung Jins talk with Raiden which went right over my head as a kid. And the Mileena and Tanya relationship were only ever seen in dialogue between them two. And as Tanya was dlc it wasnt commonly seen at least for me.
Yeah that’s what set that game apart from this one. Mkx made them hints that players had to connect the dots to understand. Mk1 is “HEY LOOK! LOOK WHAT WE DID! DIVERSITY!”
i'm also tired of straight people using Kung Jin as a token. people use the subtlety of his "gayness" as a way to praise "representativity done right", but I remember how much shit the gay character got. I myself shitted on him because of internal homophobia, and the character himself did because, well, society hates us and it make us hate ourselves - don't tell me i'm wrong, everyday people remind me how damaging homophobia is. gay is only okay when you dont have to see it, to acknowledge it or know it even exists. but, for me, i'm happy more gays and more black people are getting representated because i used to think i was the only gay in the world, didnt knew anyone other than me and used to hurt myself thinking i was some monstrosity - i knew i was gay since the age of 5, but only came recently to peace with myself, its almost 25 years of internal fight that almost took my life.
Agreed and all gay people aren't the same everyone doesn't need to be "straight" passing. Now they're okay with Kung Jin but back when people 1st heard that dialogue they were hating on him then! Tanya was always black too idk what these people are talking about the old 3D era Tanya was definitely black but they tried to make her more Egyptian/ Middle Eastern in MKX and now they reverted that back. I'm sorry to hear you went through all that and hopefully you've gotten to a better space and mindset!🙏
I don't think "Woke" killed Mk. It was them writing them into a corner with multiverses. It's gonna take more than some gender swaps to not make me a fan.
this normie type of thinking, extemely shallow, just never realises the bad influence of the so called "woke" in the games... let the healthy brains of the gamer community voice our demands to the developers, games will get better for you too normie, believe me
So youre shamelessly grifting cause you got pressured on your last video instead of responding reasonably to the criticism. This was NOT on my bingo card for 2024
This would fit with the MK Armageddon lore since Armageddon in the original timeline was caused by combatants being too strong for the realms to handle. Blaze was assigned the role of purging the combatants if they get too strong.
@@conmas3288there would be no reason for them to train because the world wasn't endanger.Also why we just only talking about raiden and johnny cage.There are literally other male characters in that game
That begs the question though: Why would a benevolent god seeking to create a peaceful utopia even have them around? Does reality just not boot if Quan Chi and Kano aren't loaded in? And why have the Tarkatans worse off by making them a zombie plague instead of just toning down their aggression?
I think it’s clear that TUD doesn’t know what do now that his cash cow is dying. If the “MK1 Haters are Dumb” video, the egregious series of vids regarding the rumored death of the game, or even this one, which is just pure cope and trying to ride the tiresome “woke killed X” trend won’t make you unsubscribe, idk what will. This channel has changed. I used to actually care when this guy uploaded, but recently I feel this two-faced shill doesn’t earn my support. If by some chance you see this comment, TUD, just know you fell off. Hard.
The only real way that making the male characters weaker would count as "woke" imo would be if they were treated as incompetent or incapable of getting things done and that only a woman could do it. However, we see throughout the story that that is not the case. Raiden, although depowered, still beat Li Mei and Kitana. Not only that, Johnny even though also being depowered was still able to keep up fighting with Goro until him and the others retreated after the sun do festival.
That's true but alot of people don't like their characters messed with. Only if you make them better, you don't make the day ones worse lol. Just because you see no issue doesn't mean others don't. Example street fighter 3 is one of the best street fighters in the series but sold terribly because they changed things around way too much. Hell I know people that were legit mad because sub zero and scorpion are brothers now instead of scary hate filled ninjas.
You just said in a previous video this isn’t a fashion show or playing dress up and then you get on here and complain about the costumes being censored. Make up your mind, I thought this was a fighting game, it’s about the gameplay.
You're comparing apples to coconuts here. One point was about extra costumes not being necessary in an MK game. This video is discussing how classic costumes were censored. Two completely different topics.
The gameplay isn't all what makes a fighting game enjoyable, it's also the story and the aesthetic, these elements still matter even if you only care about the gameplay
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming You're kind of disregarding that the true purpose behind changing the costumes wasn't "wokeness" - a term stolen from black people during the Jim Crow era- It's about mass market appeal. Parents today still see boobies and refuse to buy their kids the game. You're just not business minded...
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming You're thinking as a simple minded gooner, and not like a shareholder. They want mass market appeal, so they'll tone down the outfits to reach as many potential players as possible. Those potential buyers include kids and their parents who are often sensitive to nudity. Woke is a term stolen from black people in the Jim Crow south to describe being aware of systemic oppression, btw.
About Tanya: People are so obsessed with her race when they obviously wanted to have their own Black Panther rip-off with the warrior ladies. I love the idea, but literally just make her a separate character.
Yeah no, Shao, Reiko, Quan Chi, Raiden and Shang Tsung were all weaker not because of woke but for the lore reason of Liu Kang trying to make threats weaker. He didn’t want to deal with the same problems again. He wanted peace in his timeline and logically he took down big threats to said peace. Tanya has also always been black. Edit: It was confirmed that Tanya (Along with Jade) was black in a black history month post by the official Mk Mobile account. You can look it up.
@ukraccoon7217 I also lumped in Raiden as part of the explanation. Which he didn't mention. It was easier to explain the point behind Raiden's nerf with all the other villains. As it is the same reason for all of them.
I don't understand how people are upset about Tanya being black(I think she just look ugly). I just realized Liu Kang could have easily used Quan Chi, Shao, and Shang Tsung as a force for good like Tanya but moreso, maybe work as champions of the realms. But hey, the game is advertised as something completely new but we have an old hero screwing with certain lives out of bias or grudge.
Most people that use the term "woke" use in incorrectly. So I more than likely disregard it, when people it. Most of the things you noted in this video aren't "woke".
I feel like everything you mentioned are scapegoat reasons people don't like the game. Egypt is in Africa so she was always African and always dark. The costumes are whatever to me but okay it's annoying. Janet, Sektor, and Cyrax being woman are cool as hell and not liking them seems petty. The men being weaker LITERALLY MAKES SENSE BECAUSE LUI KANG WANTED THEM TO BE WEAKER. Anyone upset about this stuff is weak as hell.
Oh I'm not sad at all. Quite happy actually because I know the way the world should be. Times were very different back in the 90s and it's a shame we have strayed so far from that
I mean Rule63 Is not the issue With the characters it's when they get changed dramatically that I take issue. Even if Janet is girl Johnny you can still see the resemblance between the two. (And it helps that regular Johnny is on the main roster While Janet's only a Kameo.) Cyrax and Sektor Lost what made them Them long before they got Rule63'd. They were cyborg twins with Buzzsaws and tele-punchs and explode-ports. Now they're two power armor "fony Stank" girls. It's tolerable, but a huge downgrade.
Back in the day in MK4 dudes was saying that she wasn't Black but Edenian! Her hue was clearly Black in MK4 (many Black women permed their hair back then & that shit burns because it's unnatural). So much so that her MKX characterization threw me off. First it was affirmative action, then multiculturalism, then CRT, then DEI, now "Woke". Same song, different era. 🤷🏿♂️🫡💯
The bastardization of the word "woke" is really disheartening. For most of us minorities, when we hear anti-woke, we hear anti-people of color. The fact that you never even explained what woke means to you is noticeable. Would love to hear your own definition of the word and why it is bad...
The words meaning has changed and you can thank certain insane people who forced a lot of things in media. I feel we were diverse back in the day and no one cared. Now its under a microscope because how badly it has been pulled off in the passing years.
I feel like using “woke” as a reason for an already poorly-received game flopping is just your true colors showing themselves? Gender benders are not common for mainstream media games, but it’s not completely unheard of. People hated the game since the introduction of kameos and people thought combos were too reliant on them, and some CHARACTERS were too reliant on them. The game was bad and got beat out by Tekken 8 and SF6. “Woke” didnt kill the game, poorly thought out marketing and decisions to change game fundamentals killed the game.
Street Fighter 6 had a ton of people thirsting over an openly bisexual woman who was very muscular and had smaller breasts and that game blew MK1 out of the water. Wokeness had nothing to do with MK1 flopping
@@TheFaithfulDragon not sure what youre talking about, wokeness has never killed a game. this game showed signs of poor performance and poor sales since release. it constantly held a lower player count than mk11 did on release. im sure youve watched more of his videos that elaborate on other reasons the game flopped, keep being ignorant and willfully wrong ❤️.
@@slickbackbum9999 dude, your forgiven if you under 15, WOKE did damage game's perfromances in 2024, from dragon age to concord. Im not arguing with u anymore, just felt the need to clarify your BS for the other readers of the comments
Honestly, it’s a reboot. Calling any and every change “Woke” literally adds nothing to the legit conversations about the state of mk 1, its characters and lore.
Regarding Tanya - Yes, Egypt is located in the continent of Africa, but the amount of people here thinking being Egyptian and black African (like Kongo, Uganda, Nigeria...) is the same thing is staggering. These people are completely brainwashed. TrueUnderDawgGaming could have used better words to describe the issue with Tanya, but I think every normal and intelligent person could understand what he was trying to say.
North Africans, West Africans, East Africans, and South Africans all look different and come in all different shades. Your comment implies all Africans look the same. Tanya is supposed to look North African, Egyptian.
@@ShadalooPlayer Fair enough. I think the bigger issue though is that they changed Tanya in so many different ways that she is no longer the same character. I should clarify and say that if it had ONLY been her inspired nationality that was changed, it wouldn't have been a problem -- plenty of ways to pull her off a badass Zulu assassin -- but NetherRealm basically just turned her into a brand new character.
I always see this type of comment. Please be reminded that NOT EVERYONE in Africa is BLACK. This is just like saying all Asians look East Asian, when Indians and Arabs also live in Asia. Tanya in the earlier depictions looked North African/Arab rather than Sub-Saharan African (black), which is why people got enraged when the early trailers of the game showed Tanya. I'm not saying that changing a fictional character's race is necessarily a bad thing, but with the recent trends, the outrage is kinda understandable. And for context this is coming from a Filipino. Cheers!
The problem with MK1 was the more things changed the more people wanted it to stay the same and these were the same people complaining about the same old combat system since MK9. People are mad at Sektor and Cyrax being women even though their core lore has not changed. Cyrax still went against the Lin Kuei because of not agreeing with the direction the clan was heading. Sektor is a loyalist to a fault. IDK why people expected Liu Kang to not make changes.
cause the gender bend change makes no sense what so ever. Why even do it other than to have sub-zero boink sektor which is also stupid because they could've done something with sareena instead. If NRS logic was "well people want more female characters" then thats brain dead logic since people have been asking for more females but ones that already exist in the universe or even female gust characters. People also wanted to play as sektor and cyrax but the actual sektor and cyrax not lame gender bent ironman rip offs.
@@SuperKingGhidorah If you took out the gender bending things still changed. Some things dont need to change especially when it makes zero sense to do so and all it does is piss off a lot of fans. This didn't just piss off fans who wanted sektor and cyrax but also fans who wanted actual female staple characters to return.
@saloz9483 my thing is that sektor and cyrax are no different from their past time line counterparts they are just female now. They didn't change at their core and that's what matters to me
@@SilasWarren-s3v because it just video game something play have fun all I see in alot videos is grown ass men complain complain about a game it's really dumb next mortal Kombat game people still going to buy it still complain
@@Thefyture89 it is stupid how people buy these games just to complain but you can't just say "it's just a game" when it comes to criticism. People nowadays can't handle a real discussion and stuff like this is why. If your passionate about something, your told to chill or that it's just a game.
Nah plenty of people don't like this bs. I sure as hell didn't buy it because of the garbage story and making the guys suck while just shoving as many women in every damn spot they can think of.
@@Druski_1 yea, because deranged libbys sit and wait till they see someone say ONE THING they don't like and then they report em...... because they're cowards..... ❤
brother your first mistake was taking anyone using "woke" seriously, "woke" is an absolute joke of an argument, the people touting the word the most can barely define what it means because it's a racist and homophobic dogwhistle. Even considering it as an argument is laughable at best, this entire video was a joke and I was waiting for any point during this video for you to just say "JK this whole thing is goofy" characters not having bigger titties or revealing clothing isn't a sign of the end of the world, neither is men being in less powerful spots, I think developers are allowed to do what they want to with their own games. Female cage? she appears during one scene with a bunch of AU versions of characters and is an easy thing to make instead of coming up with another cage from scratch, this entire video is pure rage bait and I can't stand for this anymore. You've lost my sub
Mine too. Honestly I think he's just mad that his male-focused worldview isn't being catered to in gaming. Conservatives consistently think they're the only people who matter in the world and the only group that media should cater to. Maybe when he has a kid he'll realize that people seeing woman as objects is disgusting behavior...but I'm not gonna hold my breath. :/
There are a lot of things to criticize about this game, but they’re being woke is not one of them. I don’t understand why people feel the need to say everything is woke now.
Cassie gay coded? Can someone tell me when this statment was implied? I Remember so many interactions in MK X and 11, but i don't rember any lesbic interation
Nah, I dont think inclusiveness can kill a game, I believe people who say that 'the woke are killing art' just say that, so they have an excuse to spew misogyny, homophobia and rascism. Instead of blaming the Mk1 failure on minorites being in the game, I believe we should be looking at the actual problems that affect everyone's experience, such as overpriced purchases or lack of things to do. Because no matter your politics, no one wants to play a $70 dollar game that has almost nothing for you to do.
That makes zero sense. Just because they call it woke, doesn't mean they're doing so to discriminate. That's how you're trying to shut down conversations before they start just because you don't want to hear why your opinion falls flat on its face
@arxidiax2arxidiax276 the reason they're doing so is because ciri took Cat in the trailer when she clearly never been through the Witcher trials given 1 she's a woman and only men can survive the process and even then it's a low chance of survival. And 2 she's been trained in hand to hand and swordplay combat only. So yes it's woke. Go cry about it
@@arxidiax2arxidiax276nobody is complaining about playing as ciri that was supposed to happen after witcher 3 because Ciri will take the mantel of Gerald the only thing we are complaining about is why the hell is she a witcher just like in Warhammer 40k female can't be witcher the same goes with Warhammer female can't be space Marine. I don't know were you got your information but do a little more research before throwing out thing like this
Yeahhh the whole "yeah is this woke guys this might be the black mark known as woke idk" routine is really such an absolute nothing burger, I wish the writing could be tackled on it's own merits rather than being tackled as if the sole or main or even a big flaw character wise is too many women and minorities where tanya being not a clear black woman and sector and cyrax still being men in a new universe would somehow be a direct upgrade to the writing and show more respect to the fans. This "woke" conversation does not ever end, if tanya and sector and cyrax's race and genders were instead put on new characters, I KNOW people would still be upset, it would still be the dreaded "woke" that they're here and doing anything. It's a black hole of discourse I def dislike seeing you feed into
Some people are literally profesional haters who complain about superficial things to convince you that those are the problem, furthering certain political agendas
Yeah, it's an extremely nasty culture of grifting that's hurting so many kinds of media, people are facing bigger and bigger backlash and bigger restrictions from fanbases when making art to avoid an extremely and purposely vague concept of progressivism, it's genuinely rotting people's brains and perceptions of minorities existing in fiction to any degree at all
@@heavenlyvirtue8367 No it does, the great thing about art forms is that people create a variety of things. If you don't like something, than search for what doesn't have it.
Some people also raised a fuss saying that Cyrax and Sektor were race swapped. Like, no they were gender flipped lol there's a difference and it doesn't affect anything but the dialogue.
I feel like this is kinda satirical since he did something like this with the "Greed killed MK1" video of his and that one felt more genuine as well as the fact that TrueUnderDawgGaming isn't a grifter exploiting politics for views like others, he's a true Mortal Kombat fan and, dare i even say it, a gamer unlike chuds who are just rage tourists. He probably did this video just to entertain the "woke" complaints by the tourists even though chuds do so in complete bad faith since they never dicuss the game entirely on it's quality products and other aspects, just the most superficial reasoning for their political agenda and psychologically projects this onto other people they make strawman out of.
Woke supporters don't realize companies include their ideas, not because of inclusion but because of money. So, whether you agree with it or not, it was never about that anyway. Companies placating to the highest bidder is bad practice no matter what the subject matter. It's just another greedy move, not unlike the microtransactions. And yes, it did negatively affect the game.
Something I say a lot when defending all-male Space Marines in 40K is: "single sex factions are not a problem in fiction." Amazons and all-female-warrior factions are a staple trope in fiction. The fact that there is an all-female royal bodyguard for some tribe somewhere is perfectly acceptable to me, in all honesty. "You mean to say no man made the cut? I find that hard to believe" is a silly response. If those are the rules of their society, then those are the rules.
@@wakkablockablaw6025 idk man every single-sex faction that has ever existed has rules in place that enforce their being single sex. It's kind of implied by their very existence. The Warrior Woman Amazon trope especially is always built around "Only women can be [insert powerful warrior role or duty] in our tribe." This is called reading between the lines.
Tanya’s new design isn’t woke at all; it’s her new Jade based gameplay and lore that ruined her as a character! Tanya has always been black and MK1 didn’t change that. They just made her design more tribal and traditional
@ no, she’s not really ugly! She has very strong African features and I like it! I just think she should have been the evil countess who is plotting against Mileena, but pretends to be her lover! She should have also be using her tonfas and fire powers instead of the current weapon and the hands magic power, whatever it is. The leader of the Umgadi should have been Jade, her personality and role in the story in basically Jade, and her weapon is very similar to Jade’s Bo staff
Her design is fine to me... Except the hair I Frickin HATE that Wednesday Adams-looking jump rope hair, it's why I prefer her union of light and Khaos empress looks.
The thing that pains me the most about mk1 is the failed potential. The story could’ve been better, the ideas could’ve been more original, every add on like the story mode 2 and the kombat packs could’ve been a hell of a lot cheaper. I don’t blame the “woke” for mk1 I blame Warner Bros and NRS
I blame WB not really NRS, WB decides the prices For things like the DLC. I’m also why is MK story now on such a high pedestal? it’s never been good ever and MKX had so much worse story mode than MK one. I don’t see people bitching about TEKKEN‘s story mode even though you wouldn’t call that good, both TEKKEN and MK are fighting games a genre people play literally just for gameplay story is barely a focus so anyone getting angry about that it’s just weird to me
If they wanted a black woman, Jacqueline Briggs would've been a good choice to add. Also, in the old canon, Sektor became the leader of the Lin Kuei by killing his dad, the Grand Master of the Lin Kuei, and stealing the Dragon Medallion from him. Not because some outside force made him leader.
@@wakkablockablaw6025no. words simply get co-opted. that does not entitle you people to change definitions, just because you like to steal for your own agendas
I don't think it's racist or sexist. I'm pretty sure Jax is a fan favorite character who is black. If NRS made Tanya into a new character that was not named Tanya, there would have been no backlash at all.There are plenty of beloved woman fighters in Mortal kombat. People do not hate Sektor & Cyrax being women because they are sexist. Plenty people want Jade in Mortal Kombat 1 who is black and a woman.
to everyone that read that ridiculous statement above, hold strong! one or two more years and FINALLY this straw arguments and fallacies from the ideologues/normies will be worn out. WOKE SLOP will continue to flop, they will keep crying harder that either dont exist or everyone who dont agree is sexists or somehting, its wearing out fast, soon this debauchery its gonna be over (PS: you sir @evanfrancis is a residual mediocre mind)
I do not think changing the men in this game was a woke move it was a Liu Kang being an idiot move. Which is seen throughout past games that him and Raiden are just a pain in the ass. Hence why Mortal Kombat 11 happened. Even though that was more Raiden than Liu Kang. But honestly I feel he's just as boneheaded as Raiden. I am not that upset that Raiden uses a medallion because he does actually have a medallion in several games so they're just repurposing something he already had and saying it's the source of his power. I don't think the men were nerfed they're just not huge giant beefcakes like they were they have more athletic builds rather than bodybuilders moving around like martial artists.
So including other races and different type of people made them release an incomplete game? Made the online not work? Gave player one advantage? Yeah, Tonya being black broke mk1 or some characters sexual preference. Bro, bite down on the truth they blew it.
"inclusivity", i just liked how Tanya had that egypcian vibe in the previous games, she was already affrican, she was already black... So i don't see any reason to change that... I mean, it's just my opnion, she still has some LITTLE egypcian traits, but she was way more unique in MKX, this doesn't bother me a lot... But it's a little annoying because it feels unfitting.
No, no, no. Hold up, Underdog I can’t let this slide. You are the LAST person to be talking about Woke. Because I remember in of the game most of these changes, never bothered you. I only thing I do agree with is the costumes being censored. That’s been my problem too, but everything I don’t what the big deal. Tanya and Mileena being together. That’s been a thing in MKX and MK11 double down on it. What’s the issue now? And I REALLY DON’T get the issue that you and other people have against genderband. First of all it’s a NEW TIMELINE, ofc things are going be different especially with the characters. They warned us this when the game was FIRST Announced! Like are you guys dumb or something? They been told us this. Why everyone complaining about this now? Plus Underdog, I need to get on you specifically. Cause when it speculated Bo Rai Cho, and Fujin got genderband. You didn’t bat an eye to it, and in fact you were all for it. But when it came to Cyber ninjas and Johnny Cage. You over here making a fuss about it. The whole males being depowered doesn’t really work here. Shang Tsung especially doesn’t. He SUPPOSED to not be a sorcerer. That is the point. Do you not remember how much of a problem he cause in the last timeline!? OFC Lui Kang not giving his powers back that wouldn’t make sense at all! Look how much damage he cause when he got powers in the story mode. The same applies to Shao and Johnny Cage. While I miss Johnny green glow he hasn’t fell in love yet properly or had someone dear to protect. That lines up pretty well in the lore.
The gender bend one for me is just lazy. NRS has made cool original characters like Takeda, Cassie, Kotal, Triborg, and done cool revamps of older ones like the 3D era ones. If you want to make female cyborgs then do it, but make them original characters. Give them a backstory for why they did a cyber initiative, give them their own names, they already seem to have semi unique move design. Just don't half ass expanding the female roster by gender swapping older characters.
I think what Underdog meant is if u want to make Lin Kuei get turned into cyborgs, just make new characters. Like someone previously mentioned it's more of the fact they genderbent an established character, while they could have created NRS original characters. Coming back to Johnny Cage they should have put Cassie Cage. She is already at the top of the kyramid cutscene so might aswell make her a cameo character
@ the problem with this world is people don’t know history. So many things have been white washed to the point that people don’t know the truth. Egyptians are black. The people you see there are not original people.
@@santiagosilva7561not all Egyptians are black, but black Egyptians DO exist. But also, Tanya herself was never Egyptian inspired, that is literally just a headcanon the fandom made up, only because of the bobbed hairstyle she had in MKX and people associated that haircut to cleopatra, there is nothing from the developers, designers or Ed Boon that says Tanya was nonblack/Egyptian😭
No "woke" didn't kill the game The main hero is clearly Chinese, the most popular character in the game is Japanese Tanya's appearance is racially ambiguous and her Egyptian inspired appearance is an alternate skin in Mortal Kombat 4
@@wakkablockablaw6025 their "logic" is becoming literally laughable, grasping at any fraction of a argument to try and oppose the "woke" accusation... what does Liu Kang or Scorpion, the protagonists of the franchise since the 90's, , got to do with the woke argument being made today (specially towards mk1 and its gender swaps, new aesthethics),. are you guys MENTAL? and the most amazing is, the comment at the time i read got 15 likes already
"What does the first sentence has to do with the rest of your comment" Mortal Kombat has always been diverse You have two Asian guys who are more popular than the white guy and not one person complained about it
@@GaryTurbo nobody's calling this game "woke" because it's diverse, that's literally not what the term means if all you see is racism when it comes to criticism of this game especially centered around that, then the only person with a problem is you.
First Tanya has always been black, period. People arguing that are just racist. Second what killed the game is they made mk 11.5. With bad mechanics, and not fun gameplay. That’s it that’s all
I have screenshots of Kenshi's coattails being erect and Reptile kicking with no legs. But no, the problem's that the cyborgs lose the one body part we all miss!
Why are you "analyzing" the game as if it is in the same universe as the MK we grew up on. This is one universe in the collection of universes to come out of this storyline. For those who say this is because woke they 1. don't know what woke means and 2. would have to identify every change in this universe being made for woke reasons not because they are telling a new story.
Regarding Tanya’s design first of all you could argue she was always black second mk characters designs have always been inconsistent sub zero was originally white but changed to Chinese Tanya was dark skin but was made light skin then made brown skinned, mk can’t even decide if they want reptile to be a humanoid or full lizard
The first MK game booklet implies Sub-Zero(Bi-Han) is Chinese. In MK2, Sub-Zero's(Kuai Liang) ending shows his mask removed and he's Chinese. So that means Bi-Han has always been Chinese. It's more in MK3 and on he becomes more white.
The fact that a game series that once frightened a generation of parents and sold itself on unrelenting violence and cruelty is now acting like they're stepping on eggshells when it comes to dealing with feminist activists and academia is insane to behold.
It comes off as an aversion to men when LITERALLY every change is towards women. There was not a single instance where a male character was formerly a female. Some of the changes were more realistic than others however, like the costumes, but even Bo'Rai Cho was allegedly changed to an older woman who isn't even playable. They need to stop it with the guest characters and go back to making their own but really do a good job on developing them. I've been smh for months.
Sorry, but this is borderline Red Pill content. Yes, the changes are questionable, but the word choice is not the best, along with the lack of research on specific subjects. Look up the origin of the word "woke" next time. You don't strike me as a Red Pill subscriber, going off your older videos.
He playing both sides. A lot of game & movie fandoms are into some weird shit. From wanting sexy video game characters to a fixation with playing White male characters. A lot of content creators do this & it's sad but I get it. Make ya money.
@@JADub87 Anti woke grifters are just as bad as woke panderers. " Who cares if the actual game/movie is bad. Female characters boobs are too big/small, I'm gonna complain to get views." Just two sides of the same grift coin.
Woke is a slang term used to describe people who use the excuse of social injustice to gain a moral high ground over others, if you're going to tell someone else to do research, maybe do some yourself, also calling something red pill because you don't agree with it is beyond pathetic
@@sindelscat9336Wrong! The term was coined by black people in the 60’s. “Woke” simply means being Socially and politically aware of gov’t policy that could be harmful to us (Or anyone that is the “minority”) Racists/red pill asshats have taken the term “woke” and twisted it. So now Anything that isn’t white, straight or conservatively American is coined as Woke by those same racist/red pill asshats… Maybe don’t correct somebody when you haven’t done any real research yourself…
@sindelscat9336 The term "woke" has existed since the 1930s and originally referred to political and social issues affecting African Americans. It was also foundational to the Civil Rights Movement. In the 2010s, the term became more inclusive, focusing on other marginalized groups as people became more aware of shared social issues across multiple communities. The problem is that people use "woke" interchangeably with "liberal." This leads to the term's misuse by those opposed to DEI, even though these individuals often oppose the rights of all marginalized groups, sometimes unknowingly. However, my comment is more personal experience than research due to me being Afro-Asian 🤷🏾♂️
@@FOXY_SPHYNXUnless they physically lift the country off the surface of the Earth, it will be in Africa. You’re arguing territory at this point, that’s not how continents work.
The only reason I was subscribed to your channel was to follow your character overviews for this game, and now I really don’t see a reason to stick around. You’re a grifter and a drama chaser, and before you say that you aren’t either of those things- I’ve seen the pattern of your recent uploads, and calling you anything but would be incorrect. Good riddance, Underdog.
So all female bodyguard regiments are shockingly common throughout history, and even more if you're drawing from mythology. There's probably some reason for it that I'm not realizing, but it's always been a thing, Siam, that guy who was sodomized by a bayonet, shield maidens, some anti-poaching unit in africa. And don't forget for the better part of history, women and men tended to be strictly segregated whenever women were able to participate militarily. Women tended to form all women regiments. Men and women working together in the same unit is a pretty recent concept for most nations.
They are not common at all wtf are u talking about they are literal outliers I don’t remember every single leader having a female only bodyguards there are like a handful of
The video is a Analysis my dude asking the question is the game woke or not getting data to see if people are right that have been commenting saying that it is
It's gotten to the point where as of today, I got a switch, and downloaded MK11 ...why? I have no idea- (I mean, yes, I DID have enough for MK1, but I chose not to get it (probably bc of the price of the expansion))
I don't know how woke this garbage is, I played an hour of it & never went back. ALL the characters, every single one of them, male and female are Crippled by the Fugleration of the Kombat Nation. Weekly does every single character have this weird squint , like they are nearsighted & forgot their glasses. MK11 looked awesome, like an upgrade compared to this. Happy new year bro.
I used to respect Trueunderdawg, but this is just pandering to the right wing extremists who hate anything that does not fit their world view. MK1 has a lot of issues, Warner brothers is to blame. I thought this channel was better than rage bait, guess I was wrong. Goodbye
Pandering? BS. He's telling it like it is. Whether you want to listen is your choice. The fact is, many of the changes are terrible and are a slap in the face to the fans. And many agree.
So you want games all to be generic and stereotyped from head to toes? Big macho man and damsel in distress?😂. Varieties are needed in everything. Otherwise it turn monotonous and hence. Boring...
@ShadalooPlayer but he implies it. Now everything that attempts to go different from the stereotype is "woke ". Oh, the ungadi been only women??? That's woke!! Oh, a gay character? That's woke
@@ShadalooPlayer just because he doesn’t explicitly say it it’s doesn’t mean the title is not leading that way, even the thumbnail of the video has the pride flag and the title ( woke killed mk1 ) wraps it up. I get the inclusion in a few games is getting out of hand ( like concord ) but, nowadays anything that includes a little bit of diversity people just get triggered by it, take kung Jin. Back in the day it was well welcome…nowadays if any studio was to introduce a new gay character, they will get all bad and try to cancel the game, if anything, those people are the ones that are all frail and whiny…
Alot of people care about the story just as much as they care about the gameplay… if you only care about the gameplay in a fighting game I honestly don’t recommend playing mortal kombat lol
SMALL CORRECTION: I should have said Tanya is South African since Zulu is spoken there. Whereas Egypt is in North Africa. Don't want people thinking I don't know Egypt is in Africa lol.
I enjoy Mortal Kombat 1 very much but since I always get comments calling the game woke, I decided to finally analyze the entire game; including DLC. Do you think Mortal Kombat 1 is woke? Let me know in the comments. Whatever the case, I hope the developers are more Fan-Focused with future content.
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming well yes it is in some way woke but I must admit the graphics are imo beautiful. It is not a bad game. But it has a rushed story ending. And Invasion mode is pretty dull.
I have somewhere between 150-240 hours on this game and let me tell you being "woke" is the last problem we should be caring about this game
No, no, no. Hold up, Underdog I can’t let this slide. You are the LAST person to be talking about Woke. Because I remember in of the game most of these changes, never bothered you. I only thing I do agree with is the costumes being censored. That’s been my problem too, but everything I don’t what the big deal. Tanya and Mileena being together. That’s been a thing in MKX and MK11 double down on it. What’s the issue now? And I REALLY DON’T get the issue that you and other people have against genderband. First of all it’s a NEW TIMELINE, ofc things are going be different especially with the characters. They warned us this when the game was FIRST Announced! Like are you guys dumb or something? They been told us this. Why everyone complaining about this now? Plus Underdog, I need to get on you specifically. Cause when it speculated Bo Rai Cho, and Fujin got genderband. You didn’t bat an eye to it, and in fact you were all for it. But when it came to Cyber ninjas and Johnny Cage. You over here making a fuss about it. The whole males being depowered doesn’t really work here. Shang Tsung especially doesn’t. He SUPPOSED to not be a sorcerer. That is the point. Do you not remember how much of a problem he cause in the last timeline!? OFC Lui Kang not giving his powers back that wouldn’t make sense at all! Look how much damage he cause when he got powers in the story mode. The same applies to Shao and Johnny Cage. While I miss Johnny green glow he hasn’t fell in love yet properly or had someone dear to protect. That lines up pretty well in the lore.
mortal kombat has unfortunately become Woke for a long time, since Mortal Kombat X and the controversy over the outfits of the female characters that you yourself had denounced, and it went from bad to worse with Mortal Kombat 11 and Skarlet and her Burqua, Shao Kahn who talks like Trump, and Sheeva with her feminist 2.0 sentences, and that's not to mention Jax's arcade ending where he literally changes history to transform America into Mortal Kombat's Wakanda.
Was a fan, just unsubbed. This feels so much like bait. Guy complains about outfits not showing enough skin. Shows outfits for Japanese games 😂. A culture famous for treating women well. Oh no a black character in my fighting game not like she was before. Also saying she should be a new character is laughable. All mk fans hated the new characters from the last 2 or 3 games aside maybe 2. Sad to see. I remember you quit teaching to do this you should be smarter than this You were an educator. This is called progress the reason this was probably the most financially successful mk so being "woke" clearly didn't matter that much. Also do you as an individual want to be associated with borderline racists and sexist people who hop onto these band wagons. If the game is not to your liking, move on.
The thing is in MKX Kung Jin isn't refined as being a gay character. He's a character who just happens to be gay. And many people didn't even notice it until few days later because it wasn't explicitly stated in the game (only hinted through some intros). The writers (specifically Brian Chard) made sure that Jin's homosexuality was only a small part of who he is, not all of who he is.
And Mileena was the same way. She has been bisexual for the longest. But no one had an issue.
@@perfectorganism2504 nothing is being "shoved" in anyone's face. No more than putting Liu Kang and Kitan's heterosexual relationship for several games was "shoving" hetero in people's faces.
@@perfectorganism2504as opposed to straight relationships literally being everywhere and forced down our throats? Have you ever seen a Disney movie? Y’all had centuries of straight relationship and not once did LGBT ppl complain but y’all throw a fit when two women romantically make eye contact 😂 please
So gay characters are allowed to exist in your world but they can't talk about it or have that be part of their struggles and identity. Got it. How generous of you.
Exactly. We don’t care if a character is gay just don’t beat us over the head with it and make that their only defining trait.
As a game designer i dont think having a gay or bi character makes a game woke. I think its all about how its executed. Because there is a difference between a character who happens to be gay vs a character whose entire persona is being gay. Case in point, Taash from Dragon Age the veilguard. The difference between progressive and woke is that woke people will force their ideology on you whether you like it or not. They will force that ideology down popular IPs that don't make sense inside the game.
I do however absolutely hate *gender and race swaps*. They are disrespectful because they indirectly tell people "Your race, history and culture don't deserve a new character who is unique so stfu and accept this cheap race swap cuz that's all you're gonna get."
Lastly Dragon Age itself serves a good example of it. DA Inquisition has gay characters but it doesnt feel woke because the writing is done well, it never betrays the world its in or feel out of place. The writing and dialogue of the characters never became a mouthpiece for a dev to lecture you, the player. However in DA Veilguard, the whole game feels like a lecture. I think most people are indifferent and dont care about lgbt, which is fine and imo should be the goal. That you shouldn't care about someone's sexuality. That's progressive. Woke is forcing people to care about it and if they don't, throwing a fit over it.
A good game even with progressive ideas, lgbt people etc will be a good game if it encourages you to think. A bad game will tell you what to think.
PS: Kudos to you for even covering this topic because i have seen many youtubers be afraid of saying this openly because they think they will be cancelled or be seen as part of the "chuds".
This comment is so fucking brain dead. I think I lost half my brain cells reading it.
@@RyderTheGayRaptorUwU you never had many to begin with what is said is perfectly fine because precipitating words like "i" highlight that opinion is to follow also the woke vs progressive is true though id call it woke vs. accurate representation. aka an authentic human being. Taash is literally an unlikable bully where as in cyberpunk the trans and gay characters are your allies and are endearing characters
@RyderTheGayRaptorUwU idk something tells me you already lost all your brain cells before this comment lmaoo 😂
Maybe don't use a dog whistle word that's been weaponized as an excuse to spew bigotry to make your arguments and then people won't see you as a "chud".
Just because "woke" isn't an excuse for bigotry for everyone, doesn't negate the fact that a lot of people use it that way, so why even suggest that you could be aligned with those who spew vitriolic nonsense when you could just say you don't like badly designed characters and storylines.
I think the weakening is down to Liu Kang's actions and this being a new origin story.
u gonna help your buddy from of getting leeched off and roasted by all these other thirsty youtubers lmao,
what a cesspool the mk community as become.
Whats your opinion this video? Could you do a vídeo with your perspective about the Topic(wokeness)?
Your daddy edged by a philosophy. he was a Sigma for real
He believed that if you could rizz up a gyatt maxxer with level 10 aura you had a moral obligation to do those things.
That's how you become a Sigma!
Not choice, Rizz ability.
I'm edging to create a world without betas.
Any of you goons have enough rizz to guess just how?Yes
Genocide. Based, but the solution I'm cooking is more... deadass.
What about mewing?
And you are?
He calls himself the amazing rizzler but he's just a Beta from his class.
Is that seriously your only rebuttal to him? Or are you trying to keep this low-brow. Respectfully, I will be shocked if you support this video. You never seemed like that sort of person. I’m really hoping this comment is one of your many rebuttals to this video.
MK has been going anti-fanservice since MKX, i wonder if it's WB playing a hand at that because literally every game until MK9 was not afraid of having girl characters looking sexy.
How was MKX anti-fanservice? Did you not SEE Kitana in that game?
And I'd hardly call MK11 or MK1 anti-fanserivce either.
@@dylansharp8471 when you compare them all to MK9, they toned down the fanservice by alot, and when they did it was either on very few characters or relegated to DLC skins. Every girl in MK9 had a sexy default costume and alt.
Maybe, just maybe, they wanted to stop using sex appeal to sell their game because it has been criticized for being sexist over multiple companies like Carls Jr, Hooters, etc. Like they used to give them jiggle physics I think they were justified in toning down the boob fetish….
It’s not that the women aren’t attractive it’s that their outfits are more realistic.I don’t think anyone would be fighting in outfits that literally look like swimsuits
@@Perhapsalondra worry about realism in MK makes no sense, why not let it be optional or allowed in a FICTIONAL WORLD
It was the predatory micro transactions and pricing.
I feel like you worked real hard to say that woke is bad without saying woke is bad
Cuz its bad
Yeah, he kept saying "Some would conciser it woke" when it was Petty clear how he felt...... Sure wasn't shy about saying "what the fans wanted" or "Nobody asked for".
@lashakhmelidze1665 what's bad about it to you?
@@lashakhmelidze1665 woke was a neutral term to describe someone who was socially aware. Co opted by certain TH-camrs is now pejorative. When you ask certain people what "woke" means they can't tell you. You'll say woke is bad but ignore bestsellers baldurs Gate 3, Horizon, Spiderman 2, The last of us. Grifter money is enticing I get it. A couple of facts sprinkled into BS argument doesn't make the argument more true. The fact is now, "woke" is coded language for "anything I don't like. "
He missed saying pandering to a modern audience but thats about it
I'm disappointed that sector and cyrax are changed for no reason
There is a reason...propaganda.
Greed killed MK. Charging for Fatalities and no content.
Greed Wins
Fatality!
@@ryanm.8720 Flawless Victory!
We knew for a while WB were money grubbers too. He even admitted that when he Debunked gaming sins on MKx.
(And Unfortunately they have to be money-grubbing to have games of okayish quality these days)
it did but the active anti fan service also contributed
3:02 bro, it was "woke" in MK 10, but we didn't have a term for it then. And it wasn't on the nose.
3:12 most players didn't even know kung jin was gay. Heck, I'm just finding that out now.
Do you know why people didn't know or care about kung jin being gay?
It's because it wasn't on the nose and kung jin was busy with other important things instead of showing us how gay he was.
It's pretty obvious why these things were done, but you always have an excuse that's very unlikely.
An all female royal guard? Yes, they did copy marvel but they only did so because it seemed "progressive". Even in the marvel comics where it was done, it was nonsensical but back then, it wasn't everywhere you looked. Stop acting like you don't know the truth.
You pretty much just said that the new "Tanya" could have been an original black character but they instead chose to change Tanya into a black woman. Then you gave an excuse for it, disregarding your previous answer which made more sense.
You will upload anything but ranked matches 😭🙏
Yeah this dude doesn’t even play the games he just clickbaits and yaps. Watch him delete this comment too.
With the game having 5-way mix-ups, I'm surprised it even has rank.
dude yaps so much about MK but i never seeing bud play the games
It gets me instantly demonetized
Can u just have a sponsor in those videos?
Clearly some ppl don't don't know what WOKE means and will use it complain about anything that isn't in their favor. What about greed and bad marketing principles. NRS is clearly doing Warner Bros bidding and money is the motive.
i tell you what is: its full of crap and bs specialy if they try on childs
For the MKX featuring Gay characters it was very subtle such as Kung Jins talk with Raiden which went right over my head as a kid. And the Mileena and Tanya relationship were only ever seen in dialogue between them two. And as Tanya was dlc it wasnt commonly seen at least for me.
Yeah that’s what set that game apart from this one. Mkx made them hints that players had to connect the dots to understand. Mk1 is “HEY LOOK! LOOK WHAT WE DID! DIVERSITY!”
I hope kung jins is straight in Mk1 this Time
@PokemonMasterNintendoPs5GamerX You got a higher chance to have fun playing 5 seasons of MK1 Invasions
I'm having fun playing Mk1
@@GhostfaceNintendoPs5GamerX Playing five seasons of just invasions
i'm also tired of straight people using Kung Jin as a token. people use the subtlety of his "gayness" as a way to praise "representativity done right", but I remember how much shit the gay character got. I myself shitted on him because of internal homophobia, and the character himself did because, well, society hates us and it make us hate ourselves - don't tell me i'm wrong, everyday people remind me how damaging homophobia is.
gay is only okay when you dont have to see it, to acknowledge it or know it even exists. but, for me, i'm happy more gays and more black people are getting representated because i used to think i was the only gay in the world, didnt knew anyone other than me and used to hurt myself thinking i was some monstrosity - i knew i was gay since the age of 5, but only came recently to peace with myself, its almost 25 years of internal fight that almost took my life.
You're wrong.
Agreed and all gay people aren't the same everyone doesn't need to be "straight" passing. Now they're okay with Kung Jin but back when people 1st heard that dialogue they were hating on him then! Tanya was always black too idk what these people are talking about the old 3D era Tanya was definitely black but they tried to make her more Egyptian/ Middle Eastern in MKX and now they reverted that back.
I'm sorry to hear you went through all that and hopefully you've gotten to a better space and mindset!🙏
@@Aunwerion no one said gay people have to be straight passing. How about, don't be obnoxious about it?
@@SuperLumianairewhat a good and intelligent argument
@@SuperLumianaire also you're not right.
I don't think "Woke" killed Mk. It was them writing them into a corner with multiverses. It's gonna take more than some gender swaps to not make me a fan.
He clearly doesn't know what woke means
@@ryanwaller8479 It stopped meaning much of anything lately
@@ryanwaller8479 neither do y'all apparently.
It was also the wokeness too
this normie type of thinking, extemely shallow, just never realises the bad influence of the so called "woke" in the games...
let the healthy brains of the gamer community voice our demands to the developers, games will get better for you too normie, believe me
What’s wrong with all the palace guards being women? It’s common in a lot of fiction, like the Amazonians from themyscira and even in real life.
So youre shamelessly grifting cause you got pressured on your last video instead of responding reasonably to the criticism.
This was NOT on my bingo card for 2024
I think all the villans are weaker because lui kang didn't want them to get to powerfull
Yeah that part is clear
But what about the heroes like Johnny Cage and Raiden
This would fit with the MK Armageddon lore since Armageddon in the original timeline was caused by combatants being too strong for the realms to handle. Blaze was assigned the role of purging the combatants if they get too strong.
And let’s be real villains almost never win in mk
@@conmas3288there would be no reason for them to train because the world wasn't endanger.Also why we just only talking about raiden and johnny cage.There are literally other male characters in that game
That begs the question though: Why would a benevolent god seeking to create a peaceful utopia even have them around? Does reality just not boot if Quan Chi and Kano aren't loaded in? And why have the Tarkatans worse off by making them a zombie plague instead of just toning down their aggression?
I think it’s clear that TUD doesn’t know what do now that his cash cow is dying. If the “MK1 Haters are Dumb” video, the egregious series of vids regarding the rumored death of the game, or even this one, which is just pure cope and trying to ride the tiresome “woke killed X” trend won’t make you unsubscribe, idk what will.
This channel has changed. I used to actually care when this guy uploaded, but recently I feel this two-faced shill doesn’t earn my support. If by some chance you see this comment, TUD, just know you fell off. Hard.
Dude has been stealing video ideas for years lmao.
What was cope?
@@AKDN91explain "stealing videos" have you ever heard of parallel thinking?
The only real way that making the male characters weaker would count as "woke" imo would be if they were treated as incompetent or incapable of getting things done and that only a woman could do it. However, we see throughout the story that that is not the case. Raiden, although depowered, still beat Li Mei and Kitana. Not only that, Johnny even though also being depowered was still able to keep up fighting with Goro until him and the others retreated after the sun do festival.
I agree
That's true but alot of people don't like their characters messed with. Only if you make them better, you don't make the day ones worse lol. Just because you see no issue doesn't mean others don't. Example street fighter 3 is one of the best street fighters in the series but sold terribly because they changed things around way too much. Hell I know people that were legit mad because sub zero and scorpion are brothers now instead of scary hate filled ninjas.
Not to mention Johnny won A fight with Sub zero, And Raiden and Kung Lao put the whoopin' on Smoke and the rest of the lin kuei per madam bo's test.
Bro really had me face palming with that argument. So it’s “woke” to nerf characters now? Even if it’s a freaking timeline reset!
You just said in a previous video this isn’t a fashion show or playing dress up and then you get on here and complain about the costumes being censored. Make up your mind, I thought this was a fighting game, it’s about the gameplay.
You're comparing apples to coconuts here. One point was about extra costumes not being necessary in an MK game. This video is discussing how classic costumes were censored. Two completely different topics.
The gameplay isn't all what makes a fighting game enjoyable, it's also the story and the aesthetic, these elements still matter even if you only care about the gameplay
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming You're kind of disregarding that the true purpose behind changing the costumes wasn't "wokeness" - a term stolen from black people during the Jim Crow era- It's about mass market appeal. Parents today still see boobies and refuse to buy their kids the game. You're just not business minded...
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming You're thinking as a simple minded gooner, and not like a shareholder. They want mass market appeal, so they'll tone down the outfits to reach as many potential players as possible. Those potential buyers include kids and their parents who are often sensitive to nudity. Woke is a term stolen from black people in the Jim Crow south to describe being aware of systemic oppression, btw.
@ I didn’t say that, true underdog did.
Don't worry chat, i have downloaded this video
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Real.
@tjrpervis yes
Thanks my fellow furry LBGTQ friend
I don't get it
Everything woke turns to 💩
I hate the word “woke”
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I hate that everything is woke. Then again, it has saved me tons of cash.
About Tanya: People are so obsessed with her race when they obviously wanted to have their own Black Panther rip-off with the warrior ladies. I love the idea, but literally just make her a separate character.
Yeah no, Shao, Reiko, Quan Chi, Raiden and Shang Tsung were all weaker not because of woke but for the lore reason of Liu Kang trying to make threats weaker. He didn’t want to deal with the same problems again. He wanted peace in his timeline and logically he took down big threats to said peace. Tanya has also always been black.
Edit: It was confirmed that Tanya (Along with Jade) was black in a black history month post by the official Mk Mobile account. You can look it up.
He addressed that Liu Kang could have nerfed the bad guys for a reason.
@ukraccoon7217 I also lumped in Raiden as part of the explanation. Which he didn't mention. It was easier to explain the point behind Raiden's nerf with all the other villains. As it is the same reason for all of them.
I don't understand how people are upset about Tanya being black(I think she just look ugly).
I just realized Liu Kang could have easily used Quan Chi, Shao, and Shang Tsung as a force for good like Tanya but moreso, maybe work as champions of the realms. But hey, the game is advertised as something completely new but we have an old hero screwing with certain lives out of bias or grudge.
Didn't even pay attention to the video, she has never been "black" until mk1
I agree but wanted to gloss over everything that could possibly be seen as woke.
Most people that use the term "woke" use in incorrectly. So I more than likely disregard it, when people it. Most of the things you noted in this video aren't "woke".
I feel like everything you mentioned are scapegoat reasons people don't like the game. Egypt is in Africa so she was always African and always dark. The costumes are whatever to me but okay it's annoying. Janet, Sektor, and Cyrax being woman are cool as hell and not liking them seems petty. The men being weaker LITERALLY MAKES SENSE BECAUSE LUI KANG WANTED THEM TO BE WEAKER. Anyone upset about this stuff is weak as hell.
well we clearly see which train you are on. All aboard the Woke Express
@@WobblyCarraigeMan you sound so sad do you need someone to talk to
Oh I'm not sad at all. Quite happy actually because I know the way the world should be. Times were very different back in the 90s and it's a shame we have strayed so far from that
@@WobblyCarraigeMan Maybe you should've Stopped at that time period and not left it then.
I mean Rule63 Is not the issue With the characters it's when they get changed dramatically that I take issue.
Even if Janet is girl Johnny you can still see the resemblance between the two. (And it helps that regular Johnny is on the main roster While Janet's only a Kameo.)
Cyrax and Sektor Lost what made them Them long before they got Rule63'd. They were cyborg twins with Buzzsaws and tele-punchs and explode-ports. Now they're two power armor "fony Stank" girls. It's tolerable, but a huge downgrade.
Remember when Kung Jin admitted to Raiden that he was gay, and the fans kind of cried woke even back then?
For like a week dude..nobody cared
Back in the day in MK4 dudes was saying that she wasn't Black but Edenian! Her hue was clearly Black in MK4 (many Black women permed their hair back then & that shit burns because it's unnatural). So much so that her MKX characterization threw me off. First it was affirmative action, then multiculturalism, then CRT, then DEI, now "Woke". Same song, different era. 🤷🏿♂️🫡💯
Just looked at pictures of Tanya from MK4
And she doesn’t look like a black woman 🤷♀️
The bastardization of the word "woke" is really disheartening. For most of us minorities, when we hear anti-woke, we hear anti-people of color. The fact that you never even explained what woke means to you is noticeable. Would love to hear your own definition of the word and why it is bad...
That's EXACTLY what it means why do you think Woke is Often Paired with DEI?!?
The words meaning has changed and you can thank certain insane people who forced a lot of things in media. I feel we were diverse back in the day and no one cared. Now its under a microscope because how badly it has been pulled off in the passing years.
@@JayceeGenocide Nice self report 😂😂
Not that we needed any more people who use the word "woke" unironically to show us their true colours.
I feel like using “woke” as a reason for an already poorly-received game flopping is just your true colors showing themselves? Gender benders are not common for mainstream media games, but it’s not completely unheard of. People hated the game since the introduction of kameos and people thought combos were too reliant on them, and some CHARACTERS were too reliant on them. The game was bad and got beat out by Tekken 8 and SF6. “Woke” didnt kill the game, poorly thought out marketing and decisions to change game fundamentals killed the game.
Street Fighter 6 had a ton of people thirsting over an openly bisexual woman who was very muscular and had smaller breasts and that game blew MK1 out of the water. Wokeness had nothing to do with MK1 flopping
Also wokeness killed the game
keep crying in negation, soon there will be no hiding or lame excuses like you tried to do
WOKE is real and hurts the games
@@TheFaithfulDragon not sure what youre talking about, wokeness has never killed a game. this game showed signs of poor performance and poor sales since release. it constantly held a lower player count than mk11 did on release. im sure youve watched more of his videos that elaborate on other reasons the game flopped, keep being ignorant and willfully wrong ❤️.
@@slickbackbum9999 dude, your forgiven if you under 15, WOKE did damage game's perfromances in 2024, from dragon age to concord. Im not arguing with u anymore, just felt the need to clarify your BS for the other readers of the comments
Honestly, it’s a reboot. Calling any and every change “Woke” literally adds nothing to the legit conversations about the state of mk 1, its characters and lore.
So calling it a reboot means that you can't accuse it of being woke? What?
@ No. Reread my previous statement and actually give a valid answer.
Thank you.😭😭
@@jaydenweeden99 No one is "Calling any and every change “Woke”"
This exaggeration adds nothing to the legit conversations about the state of mk 1.
@@wakkablockablaw6025 Keep repeating yourself big fella. 😭😭😭
@@jaydenweeden99 Maybe you shouldn't drink water out of the toilet .It's gross
Africa is a continent not a country Egypt is a country of Africa.
Regarding Tanya - Yes, Egypt is located in the continent of Africa, but the amount of people here thinking being Egyptian and black African (like Kongo, Uganda, Nigeria...) is the same thing is staggering. These people are completely brainwashed. TrueUnderDawgGaming could have used better words to describe the issue with Tanya, but I think every normal and intelligent person could understand what he was trying to say.
Egypt is in Africa......being Egyptian is being African......Jesus christ.
*north african
Africa is most deverse continent, shes north african not black
@@CrazyOsi… so African. people just get dumber and dumber istg
@@lashakhmelidze1665 She's black. A black north African like most ppl in the region but black nonetheless
North Africans, West Africans, East Africans, and South Africans all look different and come in all different shades. Your comment implies all Africans look the same. Tanya is supposed to look North African, Egyptian.
Tanya has literally ALWAYS been black and Egypt is a country IN AFRICA. That point makes ZERO sense...
But she wasnt zulu
@ShadalooPlayer Maybe so, but that change really isn't a big deal
@@Ghost_in_the_Rain well maybe to you but for Me and other fans It is
@@ShadalooPlayer Fair enough. I think the bigger issue though is that they changed Tanya in so many different ways that she is no longer the same character. I should clarify and say that if it had ONLY been her inspired nationality that was changed, it wouldn't have been a problem -- plenty of ways to pull her off a badass Zulu assassin -- but NetherRealm basically just turned her into a brand new character.
I always see this type of comment. Please be reminded that NOT EVERYONE in Africa is BLACK. This is just like saying all Asians look East Asian, when Indians and Arabs also live in Asia. Tanya in the earlier depictions looked North African/Arab rather than Sub-Saharan African (black), which is why people got enraged when the early trailers of the game showed Tanya. I'm not saying that changing a fictional character's race is necessarily a bad thing, but with the recent trends, the outrage is kinda understandable.
And for context this is coming from a Filipino.
Cheers!
The problem with MK1 was the more things changed the more people wanted it to stay the same and these were the same people complaining about the same old combat system since MK9. People are mad at Sektor and Cyrax being women even though their core lore has not changed. Cyrax still went against the Lin Kuei because of not agreeing with the direction the clan was heading. Sektor is a loyalist to a fault. IDK why people expected Liu Kang to not make changes.
cause the gender bend change makes no sense what so ever. Why even do it other than to have sub-zero boink sektor which is also stupid because they could've done something with sareena instead. If NRS logic was "well people want more female characters" then thats brain dead logic since people have been asking for more females but ones that already exist in the universe or even female gust characters. People also wanted to play as sektor and cyrax but the actual sektor and cyrax not lame gender bent ironman rip offs.
@saloz9483 because not everything is meant to be the same.
@@SuperKingGhidorah If you took out the gender bending things still changed. Some things dont need to change especially when it makes zero sense to do so and all it does is piss off a lot of fans. This didn't just piss off fans who wanted sektor and cyrax but also fans who wanted actual female staple characters to return.
@saloz9483 my thing is that sektor and cyrax are no different from their past time line counterparts they are just female now. They didn't change at their core and that's what matters to me
@saloz9483 and for more female staple characters I blame their choices for Kombat pack 2 because who asked for Conan and T1000
The game had so much potential 😞
It just a video game
@@Thefyture89 Please leave these comments. People like you clearly aren't capable of a fair discussion about a game.
@@SilasWarren-s3v because it just video game something play have fun all I see in alot videos is grown ass men complain complain about a game it's really dumb next mortal Kombat game people still going to buy it still complain
@@Thefyture89Clearly you aren't a gamer, you are the type who plays games occasionally. You have no say, now get out of here.
@@Thefyture89 it is stupid how people buy these games just to complain but you can't just say "it's just a game" when it comes to criticism. People nowadays can't handle a real discussion and stuff like this is why. If your passionate about something, your told to chill or that it's just a game.
We’ve gone from everything is racist/ sexist to everything is woke. It never ends this shit…
You're just gay.
I think you should've defined woke at the beginning of the video and then define woke as people use the word now
Imagine thinking that redheads killed a live service game
Because he’s scared of getting cancelled because he’s too afraid say what he really thinks
Imagine trusting on colored-hair developers. 🤡🤡🤡
Redheads?
Nah plenty of people don't like this bs. I sure as hell didn't buy it because of the garbage story and making the guys suck while just shoving as many women in every damn spot they can think of.
@@Druski_1 yea, because deranged libbys sit and wait till they see someone say ONE THING they don't like and then they report em......
because they're cowards.....
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brother your first mistake was taking anyone using "woke" seriously, "woke" is an absolute joke of an argument, the people touting the word the most can barely define what it means because it's a racist and homophobic dogwhistle. Even considering it as an argument is laughable at best, this entire video was a joke and I was waiting for any point during this video for you to just say "JK this whole thing is goofy"
characters not having bigger titties or revealing clothing isn't a sign of the end of the world, neither is men being in less powerful spots, I think developers are allowed to do what they want to with their own games. Female cage? she appears during one scene with a bunch of AU versions of characters and is an easy thing to make instead of coming up with another cage from scratch, this entire video is pure rage bait and I can't stand for this anymore. You've lost my sub
Mine too. Honestly I think he's just mad that his male-focused worldview isn't being catered to in gaming. Conservatives consistently think they're the only people who matter in the world and the only group that media should cater to. Maybe when he has a kid he'll realize that people seeing woman as objects is disgusting behavior...but I'm not gonna hold my breath. :/
There are a lot of things to criticize about this game, but they’re being woke is not one of them. I don’t understand why people feel the need to say everything is woke now.
Cassie gay coded? Can someone tell me when this statment was implied? I Remember so many interactions in MK X and 11, but i don't rember any lesbic interation
Cassie cage is Not 🏳️🌈
@PokemonMasterNintendoPs5GamerX infact, that Is what i Sayd. She Is like the most etero charater in the game
They better not make her 🏳️🌈 that will ruin the character
I hope Cassie cage stay as a straight character I like straight Characters only
@@GhostfaceNintendoPs5GamerX so you don't like meelina?
Nah, I dont think inclusiveness can kill a game, I believe people who say that 'the woke are killing art' just say that, so they have an excuse to spew misogyny, homophobia and rascism. Instead of blaming the Mk1 failure on minorites being in the game, I believe we should be looking at the actual problems that affect everyone's experience, such as overpriced purchases or lack of things to do. Because no matter your politics, no one wants to play a $70 dollar game that has almost nothing for you to do.
That makes zero sense. Just because they call it woke, doesn't mean they're doing so to discriminate. That's how you're trying to shut down conversations before they start just because you don't want to hear why your opinion falls flat on its face
Inclusivity cant kill a game the forced inclusion can, and dont worry there black,gay and female people and streamers that also complaning about it
@@FOXY_SPHYNXppl call things woke when they don’t fit their fragile world view lmao ppl are calling witcher 4 woke bc you play as Ciri like bruh
@arxidiax2arxidiax276 the reason they're doing so is because ciri took Cat in the trailer when she clearly never been through the Witcher trials given 1 she's a woman and only men can survive the process and even then it's a low chance of survival. And 2 she's been trained in hand to hand and swordplay combat only. So yes it's woke. Go cry about it
@@arxidiax2arxidiax276nobody is complaining about playing as ciri that was supposed to happen after witcher 3 because Ciri will take the mantel of Gerald the only thing we are complaining about is why the hell is she a witcher just like in Warhammer 40k female can't be witcher the same goes with Warhammer female can't be space Marine. I don't know were you got your information but do a little more research before throwing out thing like this
Yeahhh the whole "yeah is this woke guys this might be the black mark known as woke idk" routine is really such an absolute nothing burger, I wish the writing could be tackled on it's own merits rather than being tackled as if the sole or main or even a big flaw character wise is too many women and minorities where tanya being not a clear black woman and sector and cyrax still being men in a new universe would somehow be a direct upgrade to the writing and show more respect to the fans. This "woke" conversation does not ever end, if tanya and sector and cyrax's race and genders were instead put on new characters, I KNOW people would still be upset, it would still be the dreaded "woke" that they're here and doing anything. It's a black hole of discourse I def dislike seeing you feed into
Some people are literally profesional haters who complain about superficial things to convince you that those are the problem, furthering certain political agendas
Yeah, it's an extremely nasty culture of grifting that's hurting so many kinds of media, people are facing bigger and bigger backlash and bigger restrictions from fanbases when making art to avoid an extremely and purposely vague concept of progressivism, it's genuinely rotting people's brains and perceptions of minorities existing in fiction to any degree at all
Woke doesn't need to be in video games
@@heavenlyvirtue8367 No it does, the great thing about art forms is that people create a variety of things. If you don't like something, than search for what doesn't have it.
Tanya wasn't already black? O...k...
I bout to say that, she been black lol
Also, if she was Egyptian in mkx she was already African. Characters have their faces changed game after game, but in this case it is "woke" ☠️
Basically if your not American black or dark skinned your not “black”
There are diferent types of black people@@romesk814
Some people also raised a fuss saying that Cyrax and Sektor were race swapped. Like, no they were gender flipped lol there's a difference and it doesn't affect anything but the dialogue.
I can't tell if this is satire or not but i physically cannot waste anymore energy on mk1
I feel like this is kinda satirical since he did something like this with the "Greed killed MK1" video of his and that one felt more genuine as well as the fact that TrueUnderDawgGaming isn't a grifter exploiting politics for views like others, he's a true Mortal Kombat fan and, dare i even say it, a gamer unlike chuds who are just rage tourists. He probably did this video just to entertain the "woke" complaints by the tourists even though chuds do so in complete bad faith since they never dicuss the game entirely on it's quality products and other aspects, just the most superficial reasoning for their political agenda and psychologically projects this onto other people they make strawman out of.
Woke supporters don't realize companies include their ideas, not because of inclusion but because of money. So, whether you agree with it or not, it was never about that anyway. Companies placating to the highest bidder is bad practice no matter what the subject matter. It's just another greedy move, not unlike the microtransactions. And yes, it did negatively affect the game.
@bradb2a89 and they found out that it is not profitable so maybe it will get back to normal around here. Atleast tekkens good
@zoraktorok5677 We can only hope.
So you have a problem with capitalism. That’s so woke bro
@@primegaming228 🤣🤣
@@zoraktorok5677 what do you mean "Tekken good"?
Something I say a lot when defending all-male Space Marines in 40K is: "single sex factions are not a problem in fiction." Amazons and all-female-warrior factions are a staple trope in fiction. The fact that there is an all-female royal bodyguard for some tribe somewhere is perfectly acceptable to me, in all honesty. "You mean to say no man made the cut? I find that hard to believe" is a silly response. If those are the rules of their society, then those are the rules.
Who says those are the rules?
@@wakkablockablaw6025 idk man every single-sex faction that has ever existed has rules in place that enforce their being single sex. It's kind of implied by their very existence. The Warrior Woman Amazon trope especially is always built around "Only women can be [insert powerful warrior role or duty] in our tribe." This is called reading between the lines.
Have you seen how outward is represented?? In terms of survival they must be strong to put up with all that bs...
Tanya’s new design isn’t woke at all; it’s her new Jade based gameplay and lore that ruined her as a character! Tanya has always been black and MK1 didn’t change that. They just made her design more tribal and traditional
You mean "ugly"
@ no, she’s not really ugly! She has very strong African features and I like it! I just think she should have been the evil countess who is plotting against Mileena, but pretends to be her lover! She should have also be using her tonfas and fire powers instead of the current weapon and the hands magic power, whatever it is.
The leader of the Umgadi should have been Jade, her personality and role in the story in basically Jade, and her weapon is very similar to Jade’s Bo staff
Her design is fine to me... Except the hair I Frickin HATE that Wednesday Adams-looking jump rope hair, it's why I prefer her union of light and Khaos empress looks.
@@MementoMori7777those hair are tribal African style!
@@lordronn472 Well the tribes need to Update their damn fashion sense.
The wokeness has been around for a while and it fully showed itself in MK1.
Yeah no more women or colored people in our video games all just DEI fantasy characters /s
Don’t forget the shitty voice acting of Megan Fox for the role of Nitara. What were they thinking in developing this game?!
Since MK X
Mortal Kombat has always been woke the first game included different characters from different places
Imagine the first mortal Kombat game launching nowadays. people would see Sonya and Jax and be like "omg, games are becoming woke"
The thing that pains me the most about mk1 is the failed potential. The story could’ve been better, the ideas could’ve been more original, every add on like the story mode 2 and the kombat packs could’ve been a hell of a lot cheaper. I don’t blame the “woke” for mk1 I blame Warner Bros and NRS
I blame WB not really NRS, WB decides the prices For things like the DLC. I’m also why is MK story now on such a high pedestal? it’s never been good ever and MKX had so much worse story mode than MK one.
I don’t see people bitching about TEKKEN‘s story mode even though you wouldn’t call that good, both TEKKEN and MK are fighting games a genre people play literally just for gameplay
story is barely a focus so anyone getting angry about that it’s just weird to me
If they wanted a black woman, Jacqueline Briggs would've been a good choice to add. Also, in the old canon, Sektor became the leader of the Lin Kuei by killing his dad, the Grand Master of the Lin Kuei, and stealing the Dragon Medallion from him. Not because some outside force made him leader.
It’s a new timeline for a reason
The biggest thing killing MK is no LEGACY. They try to reinvent the wheel with every game...nothing carries over. Moves have different inputs, etc.
Being woke did not kill this game. Being mediocre killed this game.
Mediocre?
You know you’re falling off when you gotta resort to misuse the word “woke” to complain about mortal Kombat
Huh?
The meanings of words can change overtime. Update your dictionary, boomer.
@@wakkablockablaw6025what’re you, 12?
@@tizzellit2368 Gen Z. What about you? 60?
@@wakkablockablaw6025no. words simply get co-opted. that does not entitle you people to change definitions, just because you like to steal for your own agendas
Damn. Just say yall are racist and sexist. The game was just rushed and ass. Yall racial and gender bias has nothing to do with that.
I don't think it's racist or sexist. I'm pretty sure Jax is a fan favorite character who is black. If NRS made Tanya into a new character that was not named Tanya, there would have been no backlash at all.There are plenty of beloved woman fighters in Mortal kombat. People do not hate Sektor & Cyrax being women because they are sexist. Plenty people want Jade in Mortal Kombat 1 who is black and a woman.
Nice try, but no dice. Gamergate was 10 years, so it's time to get some new material.
to everyone that read that ridiculous statement above, hold strong! one or two more years and FINALLY this straw arguments and fallacies from the ideologues/normies will be worn out.
WOKE SLOP will continue to flop, they will keep crying harder that either dont exist or everyone who dont agree is sexists or somehting, its wearing out fast, soon this debauchery its gonna be over (PS: you sir @evanfrancis is a residual mediocre mind)
I do not think changing the men in this game was a woke move it was a Liu Kang being an idiot move. Which is seen throughout past games that him and Raiden are just a pain in the ass. Hence why Mortal Kombat 11 happened. Even though that was more Raiden than Liu Kang. But honestly I feel he's just as boneheaded as Raiden. I am not that upset that Raiden uses a medallion because he does actually have a medallion in several games so they're just repurposing something he already had and saying it's the source of his power. I don't think the men were nerfed they're just not huge giant beefcakes like they were they have more athletic builds rather than bodybuilders moving around like martial artists.
Woke definitely plays a part in mortal kombat dying but it’s not the main reason. Woke won’t make a good game bad but it will make a bad game terrible
Aaaaaaand I'm out. Yet another gaming TH-camr falls down the "woke" mineshaft. Pathetic.
Pretty sad. Bro has been pretty apolitical but this really is kinda sad.
He is PITIFUL...
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Yep
If this game had real 2v2 it would be that much more enjoyable
I don’t get why they covered the woman’s costume 😢
So including other races and different type of people made them release an incomplete game? Made the online not work? Gave player one advantage?
Yeah, Tonya being black broke mk1 or some characters sexual preference. Bro, bite down on the truth they blew it.
So many bad decisions in MK1 😭😭 1 after another after another.
Not the grift
Crying over inclusivity and sexual outfits being more modest is actually crazy
LITERALLY
Nobody is crying about inclusivity
"inclusivity", i just liked how Tanya had that egypcian vibe in the previous games, she was already affrican, she was already black... So i don't see any reason to change that...
I mean, it's just my opnion, she still has some LITTLE egypcian traits, but she was way more unique in MKX, this doesn't bother me a lot... But it's a little annoying because it feels unfitting.
@@tyrantking222clock it!!!👏🏾
@@ShadalooPlayer only Because you ain't listened hard enough.
No, no, no. Hold up, Underdog I can’t let this slide. You are the LAST person to be talking about Woke. Because I remember in of the game most of these changes, never bothered you. I only thing I do agree with is the costumes being censored. That’s been my problem too, but everything I don’t what the big deal. Tanya and Mileena being together. That’s been a thing in MKX and MK11 double down on it. What’s the issue now? And I REALLY DON’T get the issue that you and other people have against genderband. First of all it’s a NEW TIMELINE, ofc things are going be different especially with the characters. They warned us this when the game was FIRST Announced! Like are you guys dumb or something? They been told us this. Why everyone complaining about this now? Plus Underdog, I need to get on you specifically. Cause when it speculated Bo Rai Cho, and Fujin got genderband. You didn’t bat an eye to it, and in fact you were all for it. But when it came to Cyber ninjas and Johnny Cage. You over here making a fuss about it. The whole males being depowered doesn’t really work here. Shang Tsung especially doesn’t. He SUPPOSED to not be a sorcerer. That is the point. Do you not remember how much of a problem he cause in the last timeline!? OFC Lui Kang not giving his powers back that wouldn’t make sense at all! Look how much damage he cause when he got powers in the story mode. The same applies to Shao and Johnny Cage. While I miss Johnny green glow he hasn’t fell in love yet properly or had someone dear to protect. That lines up pretty well in the lore.
The gender bend one for me is just lazy. NRS has made cool original characters like Takeda, Cassie, Kotal, Triborg, and done cool revamps of older ones like the 3D era ones. If you want to make female cyborgs then do it, but make them original characters. Give them a backstory for why they did a cyber initiative, give them their own names, they already seem to have semi unique move design. Just don't half ass expanding the female roster by gender swapping older characters.
This seems like a weird video to make imo
Ya im not reading all of that
I think what Underdog meant is if u want to make Lin Kuei get turned into cyborgs, just make new characters. Like someone previously mentioned it's more of the fact they genderbent an established character, while they could have created NRS original characters. Coming back to Johnny Cage they should have put Cassie Cage. She is already at the top of the kyramid cutscene so might aswell make her a cameo character
I got my comment deleted for saying thee dudes got no definition for woke. True underdawg has gone full grift
The whole time I played mkx, i never thought Kung Jin as gay, huh..
Tanya was already black. People clearly don’t know who the Egyptians are…
Nor do they realize Egypt is in Africa...
Not all egyptians are black
@ the problem with this world is people don’t know history. So many things have been white washed to the point that people don’t know the truth. Egyptians are black. The people you see there are not original people.
@@santiagosilva7561but Egypt is still located in…sigh*w/e man
@@santiagosilva7561not all Egyptians are black, but black Egyptians DO exist. But also, Tanya herself was never Egyptian inspired, that is literally just a headcanon the fandom made up, only because of the bobbed hairstyle she had in MKX and people associated that haircut to cleopatra, there is nothing from the developers, designers or Ed Boon that says Tanya was nonblack/Egyptian😭
No "woke" didn't kill the game
The main hero is clearly Chinese, the most popular character in the game is Japanese
Tanya's appearance is racially ambiguous and her Egyptian inspired appearance is an alternate skin in Mortal Kombat 4
keep crying, 2025 gonna be hard for you
What does your first sentence have to do with the rest of your comment?
@@wakkablockablaw6025 their "logic" is becoming literally laughable, grasping at any fraction of a argument to try and oppose the "woke" accusation...
what does Liu Kang or Scorpion, the protagonists of the franchise since the 90's, , got to do with the woke argument being made today (specially towards mk1 and its gender swaps, new aesthethics),.
are you guys MENTAL? and the most amazing is, the comment at the time i read got 15 likes already
"What does the first sentence has to do with the rest of your comment"
Mortal Kombat has always been diverse
You have two Asian guys who are more popular than the white guy and not one person complained about it
@@GaryTurbo nobody's calling this game "woke" because it's diverse, that's literally not what the term means if all you see is racism when it comes to criticism of this game especially centered around that, then the only person with a problem is you.
First Tanya has always been black, period. People arguing that are just racist. Second what killed the game is they made mk 11.5. With bad mechanics, and not fun gameplay. That’s it that’s all
This game came out barely functional and you're blaming inclusion? LMAO
Yes that but the knife in our back real fan back in 90 fans
TUD trying to join the alt right grift lmao
MK always had inclusion his not blaming it hes blaming the forced inclusion
I have screenshots of Kenshi's coattails being erect and Reptile kicking with no legs. But no, the problem's that the cyborgs lose the one body part we all miss!
make women ugly and censor their costumes = woke
Why are you "analyzing" the game as if it is in the same universe as the MK we grew up on. This is one universe in the collection of universes to come out of this storyline. For those who say this is because woke they 1. don't know what woke means and 2. would have to identify every change in this universe being made for woke reasons not because they are telling a new story.
Regarding Tanya’s design first of all you could argue she was always black second mk characters designs have always been inconsistent sub zero was originally white but changed to Chinese Tanya was dark skin but was made light skin then made brown skinned, mk can’t even decide if they want reptile to be a humanoid or full lizard
The first MK game booklet implies Sub-Zero(Bi-Han) is Chinese. In MK2, Sub-Zero's(Kuai Liang) ending shows his mask removed and he's Chinese. So that means Bi-Han has always been Chinese. It's more in MK3 and on he becomes more white.
@ still goes with the point of mk being inconsistent
The fact that a game series that once frightened a generation of parents and sold itself on unrelenting violence and cruelty is now acting like they're stepping on eggshells when it comes to dealing with feminist activists and academia is insane to behold.
Tanya has always been black
No
Yes she has been@@megaigor
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@@skywalkersbutido6375 she was not that black. She was slightly lighter skin tone.
I mean tbf she looked more Middle Eastern
Am i the only who think this is ridiculous?
Oh no, you’re far from the only one, comrade.
Nope, I think people DESPERATELY just need to be quiet and either enjoy the game or don't.
This video had to be made. When you turn cyrax and sektor into females that says everything about the downfall of your game
spoiler:they are.
1:23 isn’t egypt in africa?? wtf this generation is cooked
It comes off as an aversion to men when LITERALLY every change is towards women. There was not a single instance where a male character was formerly a female. Some of the changes were more realistic than others however, like the costumes, but even Bo'Rai Cho was allegedly changed to an older woman who isn't even playable. They need to stop it with the guest characters and go back to making their own but really do a good job on developing them. I've been smh for months.
6:09 this of the stupidest section, it’s a whole new timeline bruh. Ts gotta be satire…
No
Sorry, but this is borderline Red Pill content.
Yes, the changes are questionable, but the word choice is not the best, along with the lack of research on specific subjects.
Look up the origin of the word "woke" next time. You don't strike me as a Red Pill subscriber, going off your older videos.
He playing both sides. A lot of game & movie fandoms are into some weird shit. From wanting sexy video game characters to a fixation with playing White male characters. A lot of content creators do this & it's sad but I get it. Make ya money.
@@JADub87 Anti woke grifters are just as bad as woke panderers. " Who cares if the actual game/movie is bad. Female characters boobs are too big/small, I'm gonna complain to get views." Just two sides of the same grift coin.
Woke is a slang term used to describe people who use the excuse of social injustice to gain a moral high ground over others, if you're going to tell someone else to do research, maybe do some yourself, also calling something red pill because you don't agree with it is beyond pathetic
@@sindelscat9336Wrong! The term was coined by black people in the 60’s. “Woke” simply means being Socially and politically aware of gov’t policy that could be harmful to us (Or anyone that is the “minority”)
Racists/red pill asshats have taken the term “woke” and twisted it. So now Anything that isn’t white, straight or conservatively American is coined as Woke by those same racist/red pill asshats…
Maybe don’t correct somebody when you haven’t done any real research yourself…
@sindelscat9336
The term "woke" has existed since the 1930s and originally referred to political and social issues affecting African Americans. It was also foundational to the Civil Rights Movement.
In the 2010s, the term became more inclusive, focusing on other marginalized groups as people became more aware of shared social issues across multiple communities. The problem is that people use "woke" interchangeably with "liberal."
This leads to the term's misuse by those opposed to DEI, even though these individuals often oppose the rights of all marginalized groups, sometimes unknowingly.
However, my comment is more personal experience than research due to me being Afro-Asian 🤷🏾♂️
Dude Egyptian is African and Tanya was ALREADY BLACK IN THE VERY FIRST APPEARANCE IN THE THIRD OG GAME!!!! ugh another right incel video game bro 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Stop yourself. Karens ruined it, just cause genders got change. Its a timeline made by another character than Kronika. Again stop yourself
Lol egypt is located in africa,its an africa country. So tanya was always "african"
It's not anymore sadly. Been like that for decades as it's part of the middle east
@@FOXY_SPHYNXUnless they physically lift the country off the surface of the Earth, it will be in Africa. You’re arguing territory at this point, that’s not how continents work.
@@Infernalhypernova you don't understand how borders work
@@FOXY_SPHYNX Borders are irrelevant when it comes to literal tectonic plates smh
@Infernalhypernova borders matter when it comes to keeping illegals out and trying to run a government. So you lost this debate. I'm sorry
I don't understand the heavy Censorship in a RATED M game it makes no sense there's a rating system for a reason for mature audiences
I don’t really care about censorship I just hate the teasing aspect you either show nudity or you don’t I just hate the skimpy outfit aspect
The only reason I was subscribed to your channel was to follow your character overviews for this game, and now I really don’t see a reason to stick around. You’re a grifter and a drama chaser, and before you say that you aren’t either of those things- I’ve seen the pattern of your recent uploads, and calling you anything but would be incorrect. Good riddance, Underdog.
So all female bodyguard regiments are shockingly common throughout history, and even more if you're drawing from mythology. There's probably some reason for it that I'm not realizing, but it's always been a thing, Siam, that guy who was sodomized by a bayonet, shield maidens, some anti-poaching unit in africa. And don't forget for the better part of history, women and men tended to be strictly segregated whenever women were able to participate militarily. Women tended to form all women regiments. Men and women working together in the same unit is a pretty recent concept for most nations.
They are not common at all wtf are u talking about they are literal outliers I don’t remember every single leader having a female only bodyguards there are like a handful of
Great vid underdawg
The word woke has no meaning anymore you're one of those people that overused that word and this video is dumb.
Nor does anything the left says when they throw anything at us. They call us bigots. Ists ph0bes and what comes of it?
Your one of those people that don't watch the whole video or here out the reason behind the statement
@YokaiOnikuma89 i literally watched the whole video. And his video is still dumb
The video is a Analysis my dude asking the question is the game woke or not getting data to see if people are right that have been commenting saying that it is
@YokaiOnikuma89 and my dude his "analysis" is cringe and a joke
Woke is overly used as a term and used to encompass things its not meant to.
It's gotten to the point where as of today, I got a switch, and downloaded MK11
...why? I have no idea- (I mean, yes, I DID have enough for MK1, but I chose not to get it (probably bc of the price of the expansion))
@@YellowClovers MK1 Switch version was at launch a terrible game. After the updates it was better. I prefer the PS5 version better
@@ElRicardo81825
True.
MK11 is actually fine on the Switch.
I don't know how woke this garbage is, I played an hour of it & never went back.
ALL the characters, every single one of them, male and female are Crippled by the Fugleration of the Kombat Nation.
Weekly does every single character have this weird squint , like they are nearsighted & forgot their glasses.
MK11 looked awesome, like an upgrade compared to this.
Happy new year bro.
No the PRICE killed MK1 ... the story add on was short but almost cost the same amount as the game smh
Bro fell off HARD
I used to respect Trueunderdawg, but this is just pandering to the right wing extremists who hate anything that does not fit their world view. MK1 has a lot of issues, Warner brothers is to blame. I thought this channel was better than rage bait, guess I was wrong. Goodbye
@@GG64-935 agreed,he should pander to left wing extremists who hate anything that does not fit their word view
Pandering? BS. He's telling it like it is. Whether you want to listen is your choice. The fact is, many of the changes are terrible and are a slap in the face to the fans. And many agree.
Right wing? This is the common opinion. You’re the odd one out here..
bro eat a bucket a chum 🤣
Liberals are Right Wing Extremist. He is Pandering to Far Right Wing RepubLIEcan Extremists so now I Unsubscribe.
So you want games all to be generic and stereotyped from head to toes? Big macho man and damsel in distress?😂. Varieties are needed in everything. Otherwise it turn monotonous and hence. Boring...
He never Said that
@ShadalooPlayer but he implies it. Now everything that attempts to go different from the stereotype is "woke ".
Oh, the ungadi been only women??? That's woke!!
Oh, a gay character? That's woke
Cyborg characters in the past: "omg a cool character with cybernetic parts!
Cyborg characters nowadays: "omg, so woke"
@@juliocenteno981 again he never Said that being gay is woke or bad, you are Just making tthings in youre minds
Ps:And they umgadi are a trope
@@ShadalooPlayer just because he doesn’t explicitly say it it’s doesn’t mean the title is not leading that way, even the thumbnail of the video has the pride flag and the title ( woke killed mk1 ) wraps it up.
I get the inclusion in a few games is getting out of hand ( like concord ) but, nowadays anything that includes a little bit of diversity people just get triggered by it, take kung Jin. Back in the day it was well welcome…nowadays if any studio was to introduce a new gay character, they will get all bad and try to cancel the game, if anything, those people are the ones that are all frail and whiny…
If the Umgari are supposed to be the toughest and the strongest, shouldn’t it be filled with Shokans and Centaurs?
Genuinely does it even matter like who cares about the story of mk the only thing matters is gameplay and the gameplay is mediocre as hell
Alot of people care about the story just as much as they care about the gameplay… if you only care about the gameplay in a fighting game I honestly don’t recommend playing mortal kombat lol
Oh no. Political topics creeping into this channel. If you're going to do that, at least start with how you're defining "woke".
They cannot. Woke is a word for grifters, and they used for stuff they don’t like
@@ArausitoIf you're going to do that, atleast start with How you re define grifter