5 SEVERELY BAD MATCHUPS In Competitive Netherrealm Games

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  • @demomanchaos
    @demomanchaos ปีที่แล้ว +1944

    Hilarious that the guy in a suit built specifically to take down Kryptonians can't hang with a Kryptonian.

    • @TheWarchiefZekeJaeger
      @TheWarchiefZekeJaeger ปีที่แล้ว +145

      *Doomsday:* "I have super armor!"
      *Superman:* "I got them super hands!"

    • @jsiahbush2840
      @jsiahbush2840 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ​@@TheWarchiefZekeJaeger
      Batman:👁️👄👁️

    • @smokeyjoe6059
      @smokeyjoe6059 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      _Is_ it though? Aside from DCUO, I can't think of one other time that Lex Luthor was able to kill Superman in Apokaliptian armor.

    • @parry3439
      @parry3439 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      that's because said kryptonian fucks around and holds back. the other mook is more vicious and has a laser blaster lol

    • @NiceSteeZe
      @NiceSteeZe ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ain’t no armor in the DC verse that can take down a Kryptonian.

  • @ominousvonte
    @ominousvonte ปีที่แล้ว +328

    “Even Kabal could do it it because of course he can” had me giggling.

  • @SteelEmpyrean
    @SteelEmpyrean ปีที่แล้ว +837

    Lex was such a weird character. I played a lot of him and he had such a goofy match up spread against the top tiers where he had stuff like the Zod matchup but was also one of the few with an advantage vs Aquaman

    • @sylascole5254
      @sylascole5254 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      He also used to do pretty well against MMH too, really an actual off meta character in every sense

    • @thatsoundslikeheresytomeyo4960
      @thatsoundslikeheresytomeyo4960 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I've never played the game but in theory atleast that makes sense. The game is more like rock paper scissors that way which is what balance is tbh.

    • @Mamoswine-s
      @Mamoswine-s ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the game is great i remember making my brother rage with deathstroke spamming/mashing

  • @shocker4510
    @shocker4510 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I dont know how feasible this is but PLEASE make a part 2 to this. Its so fun seeing just one part of a character blown up and put in focus on a competitive level, and this video is the perfect stage for that type of content.

  • @tristancampbell4941
    @tristancampbell4941 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    "Must I remind you of my superiority?"
    "Must I remind you of my Glock?"

  • @jerekaneplaysthings7755
    @jerekaneplaysthings7755 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    I always believed NRS is the reason post SF4 FGC hates zoners so much

    • @haydenfisher1387
      @haydenfisher1387 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I mean they can be difficult but not impossible to beat if you know matchups, but yeah even I’d get tilted

    • @mostverticalproductions4808
      @mostverticalproductions4808 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      I've never liked zoning, which is why I dislike SF2 and Injustice so much. Sedative in video game form.

    • @Sharphe
      @Sharphe ปีที่แล้ว +114

      NRS zoning was just spamming because NRS doesnt know how to make zoners

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  ปีที่แล้ว +204

      The biggest thing about nrs zoning is that projectiles do not clash, which results in trade battles rather than projectile battles.

    • @voidkirb5477
      @voidkirb5477 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Also the blockstun and hitstun on the projectiles is craaazy.

  • @JackGosche-kw4od
    @JackGosche-kw4od ปีที่แล้ว +501

    Jade: Oh no, a zoner. Good thing I have Glow. It's literally the only good thing I have!
    Kenshi: Hah... Nah, I ignore that.
    Jade: ... This is 9-1, isn't it?

    • @SporkSlayer
      @SporkSlayer ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Kenshi: Add another 1, you'll need an ambulance.

    • @ResidentEvil30001
      @ResidentEvil30001 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jade:"When i get the glow i feel the one when i get the glow i feel the one".
      Kenshi:What glow?.

    • @markblacket8900
      @markblacket8900 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kenshi took some Rad-X before the fight

  • @dogf421
    @dogf421 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    the lex/zod match up looks like the real life matchup of unarmed guy and guy with a gun

  • @ShamanSZN
    @ShamanSZN ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Fun fact, Vanilla SF4 Sagat vs. Hugo (forgot what version) in USF4 Edition Select is considered a 10-0 matchup because Hugo can't duck high fireball.

    • @MilkyWayGrump
      @MilkyWayGrump ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Doesn't Honda have a 0-10 match up against someone in SF2?

    • @mostverticalproductions4808
      @mostverticalproductions4808 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MilkyWayGrump I think it's supposed to be the SNES version of SF2, and I think it's against Zangief, because he can SPD him frame 1 at round start.

    • @MTT563
      @MTT563 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mostverticalproductions4808I just watched the video about it the other day! It’s theoretically either the arcade 1.0 or arcade beta, but no surviving versions of that exist, and every other version tested - including SNES I believe - you don’t start close enough to actually do it frame 1. Most likely, it’s a myth coming from someone who walked forward first and the opponent didn’t jump fast enough.

  • @marcblack960
    @marcblack960 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Alien vs grandmaster Sub-Zero in MKX should be on here imo. The tail completely ignoring the ice clone broke all sub-zero players for months

    • @lordlightskin4200
      @lordlightskin4200 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good subzero players deserve it Ice clone is such a horseshit ability

    • @gianniskouf6843
      @gianniskouf6843 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Ice clone in MKX is so broken Sub zero players finally faced a fair fight i didnt play the game the time Alien came out but i was glad when i heard it.

    • @marcblack960
      @marcblack960 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gianniskouf6843 alien was insanely overtuned though. He lost basically no match up. But people without brains could just pick up Alien when fighting gm Sub and win, cause the character was super easy as well

    • @gianniskouf6843
      @gianniskouf6843 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@marcblack960 i agree on that Alien was also broken it was one OP against another thats why i wasnt bothered.

  • @sirlenemodesto2665
    @sirlenemodesto2665 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The speed diff going from mk9 Jax to mk11 Sheeva and collector is so funny

  • @magma8468
    @magma8468 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Who remembers MKX pre-nerfed Shinnok (Imposter) having an infinite against Jax?
    Steal ground-pound, which leaves Jax in a state where all you can do is block afterwards, use said-stolen move that’s unblockable and sends him in the air, repeat.

  • @bfeldz1023
    @bfeldz1023 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    I hope if Lex returns in a potential Injustice 3 that they go with a sleeker suit design and let him actually be kinda quick.

    • @ayayronm
      @ayayronm ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Im a big fan of his Bulky Warsuit personally. But if you want a quicker Lex, I think if it would be kinda cool if they gave him his Superman inspired suit from the comics. Basically a sleeker Iron Man esque suit with a cape. But if that would be the case Id rather see Steel.

    • @bfeldz1023
      @bfeldz1023 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ayayronm Fair, my preference has always been the sleeker design. I'd like to see something akin to his Forever Evil suit. Really liked that design personally.

  • @janner2006
    @janner2006 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    There's also launch Superman vs. Ares in Injustice 1 since Superman could just put Ares in a block infinite at round start with F23 -> breath if he doesn't have meter to armor through his attacks. And even then Superman's trait breaks armor anyway. And if he did manage to send Superman full screen and broke the block infinite, he would still zone Ares out.

  • @bortthog111
    @bortthog111 ปีที่แล้ว +484

    Its funny you mentioned "imagine a big character with struggling with zoning vs an amazing zoner" when Tager vs Hazama was so bad in this fashion that it made Mike Z create Skullgirls out of pure salt

    • @SireForseti
      @SireForseti ปีที่แล้ว +20

      he still made peacock

    • @bortthog111
      @bortthog111 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@SireForseti yea but Cerabellum is also S tier and is an amazing character

    • @ethanhinton4549
      @ethanhinton4549 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Not to mention Tager has the worst Mobility of any FG character (why need movement when you have literal magnet hands) and Hazama as some of if not the best mobility.

    • @dom9175
      @dom9175 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ethanhinton4549 Arc sys devs definitely were on sumn when they made BB (And any of their games in general tbh). You got normal fundy characters and normal archetypes, then you have a grappler with magnet hands, a rush down character that gets progressively more broken with a full screen one button instant projectile, a puppet character with solo unblockables, a set play character that flash banged you, etc.

    • @skyblade7438
      @skyblade7438 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I didn’t think it could get worse than Tager V Nu-13 in CT.

  • @juicepouch1
    @juicepouch1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Solomon Grundy vs raven was another weirdly one sided match up because of how simple it was. Raven had one string that would make her grab immune that was safe on block and edged out any of Grundy's normals while pushing him backwards. since she was airborne it also made her unable to be grabbed by his trait, his walking corpse, that tracking ground move, or his other command grab too. Grundy could technically back dash out of range of the string but to do so you'd have to be at a very specific range since the string advanced and Grundy had a terrible back dash. If you got hit by it, you'd get sent full screen and then have to slowly make your way back in again. Really tough. The only nice thing was, if memory serves, Grundy could stuff and or armor through all of her wakeup options, should you happen to score a knockdown.
    Grundy vs hawk girl also sucked, since Grundy couldn't do anything to get hg out of the air

  • @anthonyboy
    @anthonyboy ปีที่แล้ว +187

    I love this channel

    • @robertstone9325
      @robertstone9325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. So underrated

    • @BluCarnage
      @BluCarnage ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👍👍

    • @rubbishjuiceov8961
      @rubbishjuiceov8961 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And I love you! You are amazing and a very needed human being as you are. I wish only love and happiness upon you and people important to you.

    • @MikeRosadoGaming
      @MikeRosadoGaming ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes. It does good for the soul.

    • @supemanfromdrahgonball7998
      @supemanfromdrahgonball7998 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love you 😏

  • @-SRM-
    @-SRM- ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Summoning Salt - 3 Hour Pot Roast
    Karl Jobst - 30 Minute Meals
    PNDK&M - Knuckle Sandwich

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I don't know what that means but I love Summoning Salt and Karl, so I'll take that

  • @kawaiiempoleon8721
    @kawaiiempoleon8721 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    11:45 "this game had few matchups the community would argue is an 8:2 mu" i do not fucking believe you in a game where sheeva exists and kabal also exist

  • @mvalentino5650
    @mvalentino5650 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I was a Black Canary main in I2 and while she struggled against zoners in general, there was no more unfair matchup than her versus Deadshot. It was a lot like Zod vs Luthor except Black Canary is small with tiny limbs and no projectiles. I used to have people who I’d just beat switch to him, despite having little or no experience, beat me just because it was all but impossible to get in.

    • @sarika3689
      @sarika3689 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I only ever played locally but I Deadshot could be circumvented with scream or even just roll into some bullshit. Luthor vs Zod looks 9-1 unwinnable.

  • @michaelcolbourn6719
    @michaelcolbourn6719 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Great vid! Just 1 very small correction (I think), level one of captain colds trait doesn't hurt people in the close proximity to him, but if they hit him with a non projectile :)

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Oops! It's been a loooooong time since I commentated I2 so apologies for the rust

    • @michaelcolbourn6719
      @michaelcolbourn6719 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No apology necessary! Easy mistake to make can't be expected to remember every detail of every game! :)

    • @blackpanther6613
      @blackpanther6613 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PNDKMKenshi vs Johnny Cage in MK9 is extremely bad for a top tier matchup in that game.

    • @RedmayneDeadmayne
      @RedmayneDeadmayne ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@PNDKM Waiting for the apology video before you get canceled 😂

    • @wizzem7890
      @wizzem7890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RedmayneDeadmayne I made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgment.

  • @BunniesFromHeck
    @BunniesFromHeck ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The one I suffered through was playing Nightwolf in the first few patches of MK9, where Jax had a blockstring infinite on only Nightwolf for some reason. One of his strings was just bugged to be airtight into itself, on only Nightwolf. Worse, if memory serves, they didn't patch it for a long time.

    • @OrochiAlter9713
      @OrochiAlter9713 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MK_REO Made a video on that Jax string. You should check it out. And just to let you know, that Jax string being broken only applies to characters with huge hurtbox

  • @bemjanim138
    @bemjanim138 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fitting that captain cold as a flash Villain has a very good match up vs the flash himself and two other really agile characters

  • @kingofcombos
    @kingofcombos ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its too bad that there's no "good character against bad character" because launch Bane vs Deathstroke was unwinnable. He couldn't even jump the projectiles because his muscles were filled with helium, venom was real bad back then, and his dash was so slow that you couldn't do it between projectiles. If he got in, Deathstroke had so many escape options and Bane would have to risk losing all of his pressure just to avoid getting blown back to full screen, and that's a big "if" when his fastest button was 9 frames and his best button was 11. That's not even mentioning that Deathstroke could literally backdash away faster than Bane was able to dash towards him.
    Or launch Superman vs Bane, where Bane didn't even get the benefit of armor and lord forbid you eat the 82% heat beam into 2 frame super. I'm so glad Bane got better but man it was hard to justify being a Bane player in vanilla injustice 1.

  • @thetrophygamer3606
    @thetrophygamer3606 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    What I got from the number 5 clip is that captain cold is what I call a snowball fighter. They take a little set up but once they get it their unstoppable

    • @Critick3000
      @Critick3000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So Happy Chaos in Strive

    • @Paandaas
      @Paandaas ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Captain Cold being a snowball fighter sure is ironic.

    • @thetrophygamer3606
      @thetrophygamer3606 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Paandaas no it makes sense.

  • @dominiquebautista3769
    @dominiquebautista3769 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The KOF 13 Music throughout this video was a pleasant surprise

  • @TheProblemChannel
    @TheProblemChannel ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am disappointed with that lex vs zod match up that's not even supposed to be fair in a fighting game.

  • @darksigma0282
    @darksigma0282 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Hearing that Johnny Cage one makes me want to see a JC history now. Hopefully can happen eventually

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It probably take a while with how many games he has been in but so do I. It's funny how Johnny walls Jax. If Jax ever learned this, he would never live it down

    • @darksigma0282
      @darksigma0282 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@mandalorianhunter1 Jax would just let Johnny have first hand experience on "how to gain metal limbs". Starting with the legs

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@darksigma0282 lol

    • @philtess3126
      @philtess3126 ปีที่แล้ว

      The most important thing about Johnny cage you need to know in mk9 is that he's one of the few characters who had random hitstuns in his kit. Which means that fighting JC wasn't just about learning the matchup but pure luck as well. Sometimes it was your turn, but sometimes not and you had no way of knowing when was the time to hit back. Really weird character
      .

    • @xavierwalko4175
      @xavierwalko4175 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s currently god tier in new MK1 so maybe?

  • @chaoticstarfish3401
    @chaoticstarfish3401 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Watching a rushdown/grappler character struggle for almost a whole minute to get in on a zoner, only get sent back to fullscreen in one hit - or even on block - always hurts my soul.

  • @AlwaysRetr0
    @AlwaysRetr0 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    More than anything else, this video highlights NRS's obsession with zoning.

    • @deyontemyers4109
      @deyontemyers4109 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Zod one was just painful to watch...like why would you do that to a person

  • @theraven7375
    @theraven7375 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Starfire vs aquaman is a severely bad mu to the point it’s unwinnable for Aquaman
    Sf wins 7-3
    Black adam bodies Aquaman 7-3
    Atom destroys atrocitus 7-3, and swamp thing 7-3s atrocitus
    Atrocitus 7-3s aquaman
    Brainiac 7-3s aquaman and black adam
    Batman 7-3s brainiac and scarecrow
    Doctor fate 7-3s freen arrow
    Aquaman 7-3s darkseid
    Atom beats manta 7-3
    All those mus are way worse then captain cold vs catwoman
    And grundy vs hawkgirl is 9-1 worse then zod and lex
    Deadshot gets 7-3d by black adam, batman, flash
    9-1d by enchantress

  • @ultraturbojack2926
    @ultraturbojack2926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate that KOF XIII music during the vid! Oh and the vid itself was great :D

  • @jpVari
    @jpVari ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had multiple experiences against sheevas where, because I played jaded jade at the time, I spent the entire game time... Entire... In command run. When I had meter I could cancel to kick for punish, but without my timing had to be right to somersault and start running again before they landed again.
    It wasn't fun, besides knowing I ruined their day the same way they were trying to ruin others lmao.

  • @tearitup5864
    @tearitup5864 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The last clip reminded me of playing IJ2 a lot. I used to be a scarecrow main…. My brother was a deadshot, darkseid and Batman main, I never was more in love with the crouch position in my life. I was stuck crouching for at least minutes at a time. It was aggravating

  • @LSSJTHOR
    @LSSJTHOR ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sonicfox is a coward. That MKX tournament he unfairly won by spamming "acidic alien" was pathetic. Cheap and cowardly. I lost all my respect for him that day!

  • @Bobbeigh
    @Bobbeigh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honorable mention to the pre-DLC era for Injustice 1... Solomon Grundy was absolutely INVALIDATED by vanilla Deathstroke. Hoo, wee.

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Grundy vs characters with loads of grab immune combo strings 💀💀💀

  • @SShaBazzz
    @SShaBazzz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just hope he brings up Raiden vs Jackie Briggs being a 10 - 0 match up in mkx.

  • @sammythijs8641
    @sammythijs8641 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “ even Kabel, BECAUSE OF COURSE HE CAN” got me good haha

  • @pittykitty6503
    @pittykitty6503 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should also add goro vs tremor, after tremor flexes, he punishes every single Sting and special, goros projectile is so slow it's impossible to stop him flexing up.

  • @GoGoSqueezeWorksToo
    @GoGoSqueezeWorksToo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching captain cold drop that massive ice black and sit behind it immediately made me think of steve in smash bros

  • @TheBestOfTheWorst
    @TheBestOfTheWorst ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate how active you guys have been lately.

  • @JoJoZiddy
    @JoJoZiddy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was dope, more of these would be awesome, always cool to learn match up history.

  • @jadebayoba7073
    @jadebayoba7073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MK9 Sektor, that's it, that's all you need, *Sektor*

  • @NeloGTz
    @NeloGTz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you forgot injustice 1 hawkgirl 10 - 0 solomon grundy . there is no way grundy can touch hawkgirl if she is flying on the top of the stage

  • @EinSilverRose
    @EinSilverRose ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hardest match up is making fun of NRS with a Sheeva variation name vs the petty NRS mods/tournament runners.

  • @ChrisMortJr.
    @ChrisMortJr. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nobody can talk about shivas mk11 stomp without saying that they don't think it was as strong as its reputation

  • @deniswalczak8577
    @deniswalczak8577 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was truly expecting the number 1 to be just literally Kenshi against the whole MK9 cast, man didn't have a single losing nor even matchup. It was basically "alright, if I am half competent at the game I can win against every character"

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad you are busting out the content, I'm glad to be here for y'all

  • @Sharkenjoyer862
    @Sharkenjoyer862 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about high tech jacqui vs GM sub or master of storms raiden, those are both 9-1 matchups at the minimum

  • @WalkBesideMe
    @WalkBesideMe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about launch Superman vs. Ares in Injustice: Gods Among Us?

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely worthy. A part 2 of this video may be needed

    • @toastyblues06
      @toastyblues06 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially pre-patch Superman when his F23 string can hit you right at the start of the match...and Ares has stubby pokes that could not compete.

  • @jorganquesavidez6618
    @jorganquesavidez6618 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question about counter picks. What if someone just doesn’t choose a character because they’re waiting for the other to pick? I feel like that would get pretty problematic

    • @enerzma3672
      @enerzma3672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't play competitive MK specifically but in any FG tourney I've ever been in, the rule is that whoever won picks their character 1st so that the loser can counterpick

    • @friendlyghostval1591
      @friendlyghostval1591 ปีที่แล้ว

      winner is always locked into the character they won with. Say Lex vs Zod and Zod wins match 1, the Zod cannot pick anyone else for match 2

  • @GamerBlake90
    @GamerBlake90 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I *absolutely* called the number one matchup before I got to it in the video.
    I didn't actually commentate that match though, despite my name being listed at the bottom. And it's a good thing I didn't, because...I would have had little more to say than how terrible it looked. That's not even a slight on the players, it was just one of *those* matchups.
    Stellar video as always.

  • @TheOppiter
    @TheOppiter ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the only grace i give to zoning characters is if the need to sacrfice something to zone, or the input is difficult enough to make spamming difficult. any other reason and zoners are just trash tow atch and oppressive to play against.

  • @saadhasan2518
    @saadhasan2518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, and I like the idea of using Kof XIII's character select in the intro.

  • @jakobmann1497
    @jakobmann1497 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe not that relevant competetivly but i remember in mkx imposter shinnok vs ferra/torr was pretty bad cause every reset was just a free 19% grab for shinnok

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Launch impostor vs jax was unwinnable in theory as shinnok stole the unblockable ground pound for a while

    • @toastyblues06
      @toastyblues06 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was fun while it lasted.

  • @gianniskouf6843
    @gianniskouf6843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zod as a character and many of his abilities make him one of my favourite looking character in fighting games so far i just never understood why some things on his h
    Kit were so OP when abused laser should never push back on block for example or push just one spot and that jumping ball projectile should have more recovery to it.
    I was always playing him normally and his combos where so fun and great looking to this day.

  • @nastycanadian1975
    @nastycanadian1975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember according to the FGC using Zod and constant projectiles like a chump is zoning not spam. Pretty sad that even in tourneys this is commendable.

    • @deyontemyers4109
      @deyontemyers4109 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't the point of a tournament supposed to be
      Finding out who the strongest is?
      Not finding out who the cheapest

  • @JagoShogun
    @JagoShogun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think NRS loves to make zoners because they just aren't creative martially. Stiff animations, so injustice was a zone game.

  • @Nadie1789
    @Nadie1789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is one MKX I think is even worse. What can exactly High Tech Jacqui do vs Master of Storms Raiden? The dude can simply throw static trap behind and static trap front the whole match without Jacqui ever being able to do anything. Her only chance is getting the first hit. I remember watching that matchup in one of Destroyers Tournaments, and the dude was beyond bamboozled. He said it was the first 10-0 matchup he had ever seen.

  • @wesker8814
    @wesker8814 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kitana vs Kenshi
    Absolutely unplayable, even worse for her than Jade. Easy 7-3, and MAYBE even 8-2 matchup.
    Watch 16-bit Kitana vs Pig of the Hut Kenshi

  • @stoinkydoinky7789
    @stoinkydoinky7789 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kano main here,
    Kano gets destroyed by most ninjas, mainly Sub Zero

  • @calmguru1274
    @calmguru1274 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This might seem dumb but these kind of match ups prevent me from wanting to invest in NRS titles. Also im just not a fan of the dial a combo system but this channel is great

  • @RanOutOfSpac
    @RanOutOfSpac วันที่ผ่านมา

    NRS zoning is bizarre. It’s so much worse than zoning in any other fighter. By a landslide. The lack of projectile clashing, the goofy jumps causing your toes to get clipped, the damage, and most NRS zoners having reliable get off me tools. Zoning in NRS games is the only time I hate zoning lol.

  • @brnticuzjai860
    @brnticuzjai860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't play mk11 but am I tripping or can you aim Sheeva stump.

  • @TheSuperSmashBros01
    @TheSuperSmashBros01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surprised there wasn’t one for Mortal Kombat X

  • @danieldiazz2155
    @danieldiazz2155 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for explaining these matches, great video

  • @HellNutcase
    @HellNutcase ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:11 Does anyone even having fun there? Is this really what for people go to tournaments? To watch like one guy just presses jump+projectile over and over again? I could never understand zonners. Is winning really the only thing they care about by any means necessary?

    • @deyontemyers4109
      @deyontemyers4109 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently considering how wobbling in melee was handled

  • @Miridia
    @Miridia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is gonna drive me insane lol what is the theme at the end of the video? I know I've heard it countless times but I just can't remember it for the life of me

    • @Harvey_Mod
      @Harvey_Mod ปีที่แล้ว +2

      KOF 13

    • @FelipeSS98
      @FelipeSS98 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Esaka Continues KOF XIII

  • @professorpeck6843
    @professorpeck6843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If ur execution is perfect with zod it's a 9-1 or worst. 1 hit and lex loses because if you instant air slow ball properly he can't use a move full screen without eating a hit. He can only walk like a millimeter forward. By the time he gets any ground zod olops trait and gets chip. If ur good enough you can continuously instant air while doing trait slaps so there is no opening. Lex basically has to get on and stay on immediately and 200-0

  • @DarkTree
    @DarkTree ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i loved the sheeva stomp section, while it was kinda a broad exception learning about it was cool.
    also when the topic of "fighting game clip that ends the moment a character reaches their win condition" came up a while back, i really wanted to just post the tournament zod vs. lex luthor fight but it ends the moment "ROUND ONE, BEGIN" plays

    • @deadshotdairy
      @deadshotdairy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dont take what this dude said about sheeva stomp seriously. theres a very i mean very good reason his opinion is in the minority

  • @vnquoctru
    @vnquoctru ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yall forgetting Master of Storm Raiden vs High Tech Jacqui. That's a 10-0 lol

  • @AUserThatIsDeleted
    @AUserThatIsDeleted ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Johnny Cage Vs Kratos in MK9 was a pretty bad matchup because while Kratos was in his blocking stance Johnny Cages forward 344 would whiff so Cage could not pressure Kratos as effectively as he should while Kratos is blocking

    • @N3r0ThlHeavyMetal
      @N3r0ThlHeavyMetal ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can say the same about mk11, how some characters attacks whiff because of bad hitboxes. Made some chars useless in certainmatchups, like kano or johnny

  • @matadero500kbx
    @matadero500kbx ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Not devastating, but in mk9 johnny cage vs johnny cage was a 6 4 match up, because player 1 advantage

    • @mr.soystein7849
      @mr.soystein7849 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@isaacsteele7986 MK9 doesn't have a trade system, meaning if both players execute the same move, Player 1 will win the exchange.

  • @SidneyMosley
    @SidneyMosley ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the Liu Kang episode though?

  • @benjaminschlimm7237
    @benjaminschlimm7237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mileena vs Sheeva was also like 9 to 1 since Mileena could telekick her out of her stomp into full combo. Sheeva had no chance

  • @mascadadelpantion8018
    @mascadadelpantion8018 ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminds me of if a tree falls in the woods, does it really make a sound?
    If netherrealm makes a fighting game is it really a competitive fighting game?

  • @FlameXeno
    @FlameXeno ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude for some reason I remembered the time where Sonicfox destroyed Pig Of athe Hut when he was Batgirl.

  • @afairchance
    @afairchance ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NRS really really need to work on projectiles

  • @HAP___
    @HAP___ ปีที่แล้ว

    Wishing the best for you!
    Great entertaining and educational content.

  • @chopaso2066
    @chopaso2066 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kung Lao vs Spawn and Robocop in MK11 is just a nightmare for Lao

  • @Zer0ThePlagueDoc
    @Zer0ThePlagueDoc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Has anyone ever considered in these tournies that maybe just ban spamming an attack more than 3 times in a set time span? Like, it would be literally the end of bad matchups as almost 90% of everything wrong with them are literal spam characters.

  • @kylezimmerman9690
    @kylezimmerman9690 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone link the specific intro music?

  • @yofyo
    @yofyo ปีที่แล้ว

    this was a great idea for a video !!

  • @GrandORdEr40
    @GrandORdEr40 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the interview with Tigerz and Dragon. And Tigerz take was well explained and he agreed with your take.

  • @robertscroggins6079
    @robertscroggins6079 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grundy vs Hawkgirl in INJ1 was atrocious

  • @captainsnaggleboat
    @captainsnaggleboat ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your Sheeva stomp take is wild considering how broke that move was. Even top players struggled with it due to how inconsistent it is. Good video otherwise.

  • @mattyryon
    @mattyryon ปีที่แล้ว

    "Competitive Netherrealm Games" hilarious combination of words

  • @CJSmith30
    @CJSmith30 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the kof music in the background

  • @damienrichards9743
    @damienrichards9743 ปีที่แล้ว

    So.... what's the intro music? Didn't really specify that, just the person who made it. Much appreciated.

  • @tjmoon1857
    @tjmoon1857 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If we're strictly talking condiments here, mustard is way better than ketchup

  • @litupmeboio9115
    @litupmeboio9115 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video reminded me why I sadly had no fun playing injustice 2

  • @tupimpacaterpillar8420
    @tupimpacaterpillar8420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was a hot take saying sheevas stomp was blown outta proportion considering someone won tournament using only the stomp

    • @PNDKM
      @PNDKM  ปีที่แล้ว

      Tigers won a west coast qualifier if im not mistaken? Amd many opponents in that top 8 were experiencing stomp for the first time. Its hard for me to take an event in data wise when people hadnt learned to fight it yet.

  • @humanarian
    @humanarian ปีที่แล้ว

    That last one is similar to what I saw in Injustice 2 on a pro scene. Batman vs Scarecrow. OMG was that boring to watch!

  • @Optimator7
    @Optimator7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the Injustice games

  • @washizaki6661
    @washizaki6661 ปีที่แล้ว

    The KOF13 soundtracks were a nice touch to the video.

  • @lb3613
    @lb3613 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did jade have a winning MU in MK9?

    • @mr.soystein7849
      @mr.soystein7849 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably Sheeva. Female hitboxes are the bane of the Shokan's existence.

  • @tretrefairman
    @tretrefairman ปีที่แล้ว

    Always love these vids to say the least, but I had to comment on the appreciated use of one of my favorite KOF songs.

  • @RotundRager
    @RotundRager ปีที่แล้ว

    That Zod gameplay makes it look like the only counter is to hit the player who picked Zod with the heaviest thing within arms reach. How was that okay?

    • @deyontemyers4109
      @deyontemyers4109 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because people in some tournament let melee wobbling allow...let that sink in

  • @rang2111
    @rang2111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Captain cold igloo vs catwoman is the pinnacle of ggs shake my hand

  • @nicolasth3023
    @nicolasth3023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you miss Tremor vs Kotal Kahn, 8-2 if not a 9-1 matchup