Master assassin version --> CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMmZmZGmBAAAAAAYWmxsNDAAAAAAttMzMYmBzMzysNmZwMjZGMzMbbLjZAWMLDMglglhJwwyA Bonespike version --> CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmZGmBAAAAAAYWmxsNDAAAAAAttMzMYmBzMzysNGDmZmZGMzMbbLjZAWMLDMglglhJwwyA Playing the bonespike version is abit different - but the prioity you would spend combo points is almost the same
You don’t crimson tempest in ST. It’s okay at 2 targets but starts to be really worth it at 3. Edit: double vanish is also super blah. It doesn’t lead to that many more vanishes over the course of a key.
i do find double vannish to be super helpful in pugs when tanks arent super aware of rogues :) but yes indeed with the CT, i am working on a part 2 with a few corrections and extra tips
why would you use shiv at the beginning of the rotation. You use shiv last 8 seconds of kingsbane so the big hits of kingsbane benefit from the shiv bonus damage not the small hits at the beginning
These openers and rotations are quite different than the one ssuggested by theorycrafters in guides and discord. What is your source for your information? Semms to be off by a bit
I check raider. Io for the build to see what others are running after I do my own testing, and many have gone back to the bone spike variation. Instead of the MA. Both are still very viable one offers a quick opener and the other offers more control and longer lasting dmg and bleeds
Hey m8 ... playing rogue with the exactly same spec as you but i'm FAR away from your damage numbers and absolutly dont know why. How do you choose targets at the beginning? Using Tab? Or mouseover?
Thanks for the video! Outlaw rogue player being forced to switch to assassination. Only one question is mythic + talents vs single target I feel like I am fighting to keep my energy up. I am doing what you say in the video but maybe still feel like it’s off.
We have a talent that shortly after stealth we apply garrote and rupture to 2 additional targets, so something you can do to make it easier is just reaplly garrote and rupture to the same target you're on and the game will automatically apply the dots to 2 other mobs that don't have the dots yet, so if you're in a grp of 5, u hit the main guy once with the dots thats 3/5 dotted up, then u reapply and bam u got 5/5 dotted up.
So, just getting back into WoW for the first time since Cata, could you please give me a run down of your task bars, because some of the icons I'm not seeing in my spellbook
@@Killakris figured out the problem needed to put macro in stealth mode! Thanks for this tip. Btw the Master assassin buff shows but does not change crit strike chance is that a bug? Does that mean there is no crit bonus?
These rotations do not feel right to me. They dont seem to be as per slice sims or the openers recommended by whispyrs who is one of the top theory / sim crafters. Where do you get your information from?
@@Killakris I'm almost certain the sims do not favour this choice in any scenario that is not ST. The reason for this is the uptime of that buff is used spreading garrotes and ruptures when you really want to during your envenom caustic splatter funnel phase of the aoe. This talent is not a good choice for m+. And you wove a tempest into your ST. Tempest only becomes a DPS gain when used on 3 or more targets.
I'll look into it, the damage overall in a dungeon seems to be abit higher with the master assassin build and I get to put out abit more control. Especially with pugs. And I vanish during pulls as well which is where MA really shines if you do it late in KB
@Killakris your video demonstrates dps in a dungeon that had one of the biggest pack pull sequences in the game. With the first pull allowing 10m+ bursts. Would be nice to see how you do in a grim batol for example with more controlled groups/pulls. As your avg dps is barely higher than mine overall in this video vs my grim runs. And I have 625 gear. It just feels like you picked an inflated dungeon pull as your video example.
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Bonespike version --> CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmZGmBAAAAAAYWmxsNDAAAAAAttMzMYmBzMzysNGDmZmZGMzMbbLjZAWMLDMglglhJwwyA
Playing the bonespike version is abit different - but the prioity you would spend combo points is almost the same
I just returned to WoW after many years^^ excited to try this
Can someone tell me what is the dagger transmogs😢😢😢
You don’t crimson tempest in ST. It’s okay at 2 targets but starts to be really worth it at 3.
Edit: double vanish is also super blah. It doesn’t lead to that many more vanishes over the course of a key.
i do find double vannish to be super helpful in pugs when tanks arent super aware of rogues :) but yes indeed with the CT, i am working on a part 2 with a few corrections and extra tips
@@Killakris It's been almost 2 weeks since part 1 released, can we expect part 2 anytime soon?
why would you use shiv at the beginning of the rotation. You use shiv last 8 seconds of kingsbane so the big hits of kingsbane benefit from the shiv bonus damage not the small hits at the beginning
that is correct! and also what i usually do late recording... XD
@@Killakris happens to the best of us
hey whats the transmog you got on youre rogue?
These openers and rotations are quite different than the one ssuggested by theorycrafters in guides and discord. What is your source for your information? Semms to be off by a bit
I check raider. Io for the build to see what others are running after I do my own testing, and many have gone back to the bone spike variation. Instead of the MA. Both are still very viable one offers a quick opener and the other offers more control and longer lasting dmg and bleeds
Hey m8 ... playing rogue with the exactly same spec as you but i'm FAR away from your damage numbers and absolutly dont know why. How do you choose targets at the beginning? Using Tab? Or mouseover?
@@arnezietzschmann2869 i do tab mostly or click if it is a big guy
Welcome back legend
thank you!
What addon do you have for your name plates?
Plater I use a profile made by vesp you can find it on his twitch
Thanks for the video!
Outlaw rogue player being forced to switch to assassination. Only one question is mythic + talents vs single target I feel like I am fighting to keep my energy up. I am doing what you say in the video but maybe still feel like it’s off.
Also so many salty people in your comments. Don’t get why people that already know what to do are watching a guide and complaining.
is it good to use shiv right after kings?
is there a bug with lingering darkness? mine never procs
Why not vanish while cds are up for the crit buff?
@@julien4esko good question, you can do both vanish during kb and deathmark for more bursty dmg or u can vanish for more dots and silences
What Plater Profil do you use?
I believe it is vesps and a updated version is available on his discord
@@Killakris invalid invitation
lol, am i tabbing targets for no reason? i though you had to switch targets to multidot ?
We have a talent that shortly after stealth we apply garrote and rupture to 2 additional targets, so something you can do to make it easier is just reaplly garrote and rupture to the same target you're on and the game will automatically apply the dots to 2 other mobs that don't have the dots yet, so if you're in a grp of 5, u hit the main guy once with the dots thats 3/5 dotted up, then u reapply and bam u got 5/5 dotted up.
Hard to understand your way of talking but a really good video! Thanks
@@Zille7909 was it especially when I explained the opener?
Do you double garrote same target and it still spread to so many others? I have always garrote one and swapped to another that it didnt spread to.
You can double garrote same target
You can double the same of you can do multiple targets difference is you gain more time on the main target and 1 less garrote
So, just getting back into WoW for the first time since Cata, could you please give me a run down of your task bars, because some of the icons I'm not seeing in my spellbook
Bro im gonna need your details and plater ASAP
@@richiepipes8960 plater you can find in vesps discord and details is a skin addon on called tww skin details
That ambush macro focus isnt focusing for me but the kingsbane works?
@@jcponiente check the typing all you need is /focus
@@Killakris it would only work when i switch targets and press again like its on some global cooldown weird
@@Killakris figured out the problem needed to put macro in stealth mode! Thanks for this tip. Btw the Master assassin buff shows but does not change crit strike chance is that a bug? Does that mean there is no crit bonus?
@@jcponiente i belive the bonus should be there, but it may be a bug
anybody else have energy management issues??
Im having a pretty difficult time not running out of energy and being useless
@@DillonJoseph make sure you have rupture and garrote up on more target 😉
can you share your weakaura
where do i get this daggers mogs?
the color is the elite daggers from s3 and s4 of dragonflight
@@Killakris still avalible?
@@gustavofreire1579 nope but they are in other colors
BRO ive'd used my spark on 1h weapon for outlaw :D will this be a problem? am i gonna be behind? without 4th max gilded crafted haha if i go assa
you just want a dagger with the ascendance but you can recraft the off piece
and it isnt mandatory but it is a nice buff
You get a whole spark every 2 weeks. So you just lost crests. Nothing super important.
"and you gonna bind kingsbane with /focus, more on that late, BYEEE"
How do you get your details to look like that?
it is a plugin details tww skin
@@Killakris off of cursforge or what? I have the original detail already.
@@taylorwhite2751 yea
can you link your WA's i really like the simplicity of them
they are abit buggy but ill get them in as soon as i fix them
These rotations do not feel right to me. They dont seem to be as per slice sims or the openers recommended by whispyrs who is one of the top theory / sim crafters.
Where do you get your information from?
It depends on the build, I've and pulls, if you play the variation with bones pike you gain a faster opener, but you will miss the 25% crit
@@Killakris I'm almost certain the sims do not favour this choice in any scenario that is not ST. The reason for this is the uptime of that buff is used spreading garrotes and ruptures when you really want to during your envenom caustic splatter funnel phase of the aoe.
This talent is not a good choice for m+.
And you wove a tempest into your ST. Tempest only becomes a DPS gain when used on 3 or more targets.
I'll look into it, the damage overall in a dungeon seems to be abit higher with the master assassin build and I get to put out abit more control. Especially with pugs. And I vanish during pulls as well which is where MA really shines if you do it late in KB
@Killakris your video demonstrates dps in a dungeon that had one of the biggest pack pull sequences in the game. With the first pull allowing 10m+ bursts.
Would be nice to see how you do in a grim batol for example with more controlled groups/pulls. As your avg dps is barely higher than mine overall in this video vs my grim runs. And I have 625 gear.
It just feels like you picked an inflated dungeon pull as your video example.
@@simonzendel1122 i took the footage I had to work with 😅
did you just delete the comment of the dude who corrected your rotation?
Do not follow this guide new rogues or you’ll be trapped forever doing it wrong
hey can i get your details and nameplatter :D
also, would you do me a HUGE favor, and give me a full breakdown of all of your macros?
Don’t guys understand what’s his saying at times ??
Bro his voice sounds like it’s skipping and stuttering
... lot of fake news in here....
Like wat?
nice guide but english could be more clear :P
@@grzso1347 thanks it is the Danish accent 😅
@@Killakris no prob man :P