These people complaining about needing development in these far flung places need to realize Just as in the beginning of this city and any other the downtowns are generally where it begins then it fans out as needed .. there IS DEVELOPMENT going on in neighborhoods that can support it Livernois , McNichols several areas on the east side
"Jim" is absolutely correct. real change in Detroit will occur when the blighted, gang-infested, crime-ridden and very dangerous neighborhoods are cleaned up, rid of the very bad element that lives there and revitalized. Gentrification may be the only answer. I'm thrilled with the changes in downtown Detroit but tragic neighborhoods are what will truly make the difference for Detroit.
😩" INDEED!.... And not just in Detroit. No sensible people will or should invest millions or billions into areas with unlawful and violent hoodlums and other riff raff destroying the livability factor through crime, blatant disrespect, and unruly behavior. Socioeconomic issues are no acceptable excuse for civic ruination. I keep telling longtime residents within my smaller (Peoria, IL) hometown's older hoods the exact same thing. We're living in a different generation and, like it or not and controversial or not, the reality is our inner-city areas won't get restored to vitality without mass gentrification overhauling nearly the entire demographic unable to afford the new environment. "
There is crime in every major city, also downtown must change first. It’s what drives in tourist and brings the city extra money. You can invest in the poor areas but it still wont change the fact if the same criminals live there. You can’t help those who don’t want help.
@@marcoz2470 Detroit has changed downtown, but the criminal aspect is still there. It is much better than it has ever been. Detroit police department needs to step up and clean it up even more. It has stated it will recently. Time will tell
@@johnt6673 Idk if there’s a police force in the nation that can keep up with Detroit. I think it’s a deep-rooted in the societal structure of Detroit.
Can we please get an expanded convention center with a hotel attached for the rest of the JLA site? The curve of the Lodge freeway at that point cuts off way too much. It needs to be reenvisioned like what is happening to 375.
Well it had its chance to have MASS TRANSIT but your beloved suburbs refused to be a part of the plan ( in the Colman Young era back then the Your Federal Government was going to pay for 80% of it ... and then once again in more recent years they were trying to get a plan off the ground AGAIN and the SAME Scenario reared it’s UGLY head again .... them thinking it would benefit Detroit more so than them , that has ALWAYS been the issue here in Southeast Michigan and b4 even these events YOUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT created the suburbs to HELP move you all out of the city ( Banning BLACK PEOPLE TO MAKE THOSE MOVES out too ,) by taking population businesses, tax base and political power and along with this taking most of all the events that were downtown leaving it a shell of what it was and could have been when it was the FOURTH LARGEST city in the country ... So because of YOUR SELF CENTERED ( R-word ) mindset it’s been left to decline and YOU PEOPLE come on here and show your GREAT DISDAIN for what is essentially YOUR FAULT !
I walked down there this week. The People Mover pillars are an eyesore now for downtown. Love to see downtowns progress but please take down that People Mover that absolutely no one is using😑
You couldn't be more wrong! Tourists to the city, whether local, out of state, or international, LOVE the DPM! If only for the fun of getting a birds eye view of the architectural beauty that downtown Detroit has to offer, it's worth having... And transit systems like the DPM and Qline offer added ambiance, character, respectability and convenience for tourists... to any city, not just Detroit.
@@Mark-oy1wv Sorry but I disagree... it's 2022... so we must argue this with as much vitriol and hate as possible... I'll go first: Mark is a dumb name! :)
I got on it 3 weeks ago in the middle of the day on a Wednesday. There was 1 other guy on it besides me…and this is while it’s still free to ride. I wouldn’t call a couple people riding it here n there as people using it. Taking down those pillars would open up an unobstructed view of some beautiful structures downtown
If all the crime and blight left today, it would still be Detroit. Visit Detroit in February. Why anyone would live in Detroit if they didn’t have to is beyond me.
Maybe because they have pride in where they were born and want make changes to the city,it’s easy to knock the city when you don’t do anything for it but sit back and take cheap shots at the city and the people that live here
@@ryanscott4866 I was born there, I remember when our neighbor was shot in the stomach in a parking lot near Tiger stadium after a game. The Bullitt lodged in his spine and he never walked again. Detroit is a nasty place.
@@aaronchandler2380 Some people think Detroiters can change their ways. It won’t ever happen. There’s no amount of investment that can change the culture in Detroit.
These people complaining about needing development in these far flung places need to realize Just as in the beginning of this city and any other the downtowns are generally where it begins then it fans out as needed .. there IS DEVELOPMENT going on in neighborhoods that can support it Livernois , McNichols several areas on the east side
No wise business person or company is going to invest in the type of areas that are absent of a way to recoup there investment !
Tell it thank you
"Jim" is absolutely correct. real change in Detroit will occur when the blighted, gang-infested, crime-ridden and very dangerous neighborhoods are cleaned up, rid of the very bad element that lives there and revitalized. Gentrification may be the only answer. I'm thrilled with the changes in downtown Detroit but tragic neighborhoods are what will truly make the difference for Detroit.
😩" INDEED!.... And not just in Detroit. No sensible people will or should invest millions or billions into areas with unlawful and violent hoodlums and other riff raff destroying the livability factor through crime, blatant disrespect, and unruly behavior. Socioeconomic issues are no acceptable excuse for civic ruination. I keep telling longtime residents within my smaller (Peoria, IL) hometown's older hoods the exact same thing. We're living in a different generation and, like it or not and controversial or not, the reality is our inner-city areas won't get restored to vitality without mass gentrification overhauling nearly the entire demographic unable to afford the new environment. "
There is crime in every major city, also downtown must change first. It’s what drives in tourist and brings the city extra money. You can invest in the poor areas but it still wont change the fact if the same criminals live there. You can’t help those who don’t want help.
@@marcoz2470 Detroit has changed downtown, but the criminal aspect is still there. It is much better than it has ever been. Detroit police department needs to step up and clean it up even more. It has stated it will recently. Time will tell
Yep. I think they should target neighborhoods along Jefferson road all the way to grosse point. Lots of vacant lots in that area
@@johnt6673 Idk if there’s a police force in the nation that can keep up with Detroit. I think it’s a deep-rooted in the societal structure of Detroit.
Can we please get an expanded convention center with a hotel attached for the rest of the JLA site?
The curve of the Lodge freeway at that point cuts off way too much. It needs to be reenvisioned like what is happening to 375.
Happening in Pontiac Ann Arbor Oakland county Wayne county downriver area to other cities to
Don't like the style. Looks almost like a typical 60's and 70's glass box office building.
At least there’s a project that could revive Detroit’s downtown, and it is a great step for investors in the city
Detroit will never be a world class city as long as it has no mass transit in and out of the city - a city run on cars will always suck.,
Well it had its chance to have MASS TRANSIT but your beloved suburbs refused to be a part of the plan ( in the Colman Young era back then the Your Federal Government was going to pay for 80% of it ... and then once again in more recent years they were trying to get a plan off the ground AGAIN and the SAME Scenario reared it’s UGLY head again .... them thinking it would benefit Detroit more so than them , that has ALWAYS been the issue here in Southeast Michigan and b4 even these events YOUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT created the suburbs to HELP move you all out of the city ( Banning BLACK PEOPLE TO MAKE THOSE MOVES out too ,) by taking population businesses, tax base and political power and along with this taking most of all the events that were downtown leaving it a shell of what it was and could have been when it was the FOURTH LARGEST city in the country ... So because of YOUR SELF CENTERED ( R-word ) mindset it’s been left to decline and YOU PEOPLE come on here and show your GREAT DISDAIN for what is essentially YOUR FAULT !
Detroit was a world class city. Thank the Big Three for the economic down turn.
Is the current apartments in downtown even filled? Corkstown has a lot of new apartments too and they look empty
Stop building stupid shoe box buildings. Smash the rectangle! Learn something from the great forward looking archetects like Zaha Hadid.
Invest in Detroit by a bulletproof vest 😆
I walked down there this week. The People Mover pillars are an eyesore now for downtown. Love to see downtowns progress but please take down that People Mover that absolutely no one is using😑
You couldn't be more wrong!
Tourists to the city, whether local, out of state, or international, LOVE the DPM! If only for the fun of getting a birds eye view of the architectural beauty that downtown Detroit has to offer, it's worth having... And transit systems like the DPM and Qline offer added ambiance, character, respectability and convenience for tourists... to any city, not just Detroit.
@@Paolo-sw8ys That’s your opinion. We agree to disagree 🤝
@@Mark-oy1wv
Sorry but I disagree... it's 2022... so we must argue this with as much vitriol and hate as possible... I'll go first:
Mark is a dumb name!
:)
Someone must be using it, it will become even more useful once more development/ residential comes into play.
I got on it 3 weeks ago in the middle of the day on a Wednesday. There was 1 other guy on it besides me…and this is while it’s still free to ride. I wouldn’t call a couple people riding it here n there as people using it. Taking down those pillars would open up an unobstructed view of some beautiful structures downtown
If all the crime and blight left today, it would still be Detroit. Visit Detroit in February. Why anyone would live in Detroit if they didn’t have to is beyond me.
Maybe because they have pride in where they were born and want make changes to the city,it’s easy to knock the city when you don’t do anything for it but sit back and take cheap shots at the city and the people that live here
@@ryanscott4866 I was born there, I remember when our neighbor was shot in the stomach in a parking lot near Tiger stadium after a game. The Bullitt lodged in his spine and he never walked again. Detroit is a nasty place.
@@aaronchandler2380 and so are a lot other places I was born and raised in Detroit so you telling me nothing different
@@ryanscott4866 yes, but Detroit is especially bad. 3 US cites are the worst. Detroit, Baltimore, Newark, they’re all beyond repair.
@@aaronchandler2380 Some people think Detroiters can change their ways. It won’t ever happen. There’s no amount of investment that can change the culture in Detroit.
Ugly design. But should of been a hotel