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- Overall, I'd still pick the DT770 Pro 80 ohm over this.
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Really awesome to see that you're going to be doing reviews on a more regular basis. You're probably my favorite headphone reviewer on TH-cam.
Thanks. Sometimes I lose motivation to do these since I don't feel like "working" again after I already work full time but comments like these make me want to post more so I appreciate it.
Very interesting review, thank you for taking the time to record it for the people!
I've been using them for almost 4 years now, they are still like day 1 (used them every day!).
Now, I wanted to say that it's VERY subjective. I went to buy the DT770 Pro and luckily there's a huge store near me so I was able to sit down, same track was playing and they just switched headphones on my head so that I could hear the difference. While 770 felt fun, when Custom Studio was on I was surprised that I preferred those. Sound is just more analytical and I was able to hear more details with them (even though they aren't as warm feeling as the 770). So I'd say, for sure try before you buy.
On the other note, they aren't "boosted", but are designed for studio work first and foremost and on that regard they are perfect. Bass slider is actually here so that you can hear how something will sound on different sound systems. With the linear setting you'll do all the main work and if it sounds good like that, then, trust me, your work will sound good on any speakers. Now, as I said, 770 are a bit more fun for every day use, but I also use the Custom Studio for casual stuff with bass opened all the way and it's great in that regard as well.
Again, make sure to try both as it'll come down to personal preference.
Never got a chance to back-to-back the models but as far as I know these do share the same driver, just that beyerdynamics can definitely have unit variation from my conversations with oratory1990 on reddit
I just watched 3 of your headphone review videos back to back, all of them just amazing !!
Very detailed reviews, answered almost every question I had. Keep up the good work :)
I love your reviews. So happy you do this. Best Headphone reviewer I ever came across. I don't buy headphones until I watch one of your reviews! Can't wait till you get your hands on the DT 1770 ;) I have a pair of the DT 770 havent found a closed back worthy of slaying it yet!
I got these and love them. I wrote a rather long Amazon review. LOVE the treble on these. Very non-fatiguing to my ears, but I'm a treblehead for sure. Surprised that you say they're like a DT770 as I haven't gotten the "Bass Monster" impression so many people seem to give about DT770s. These are some of my favorite headphones. I added an aftermarket cable, some silver DT770 earpads, and a ZMF Aviator headband. Nothing too fancy just dressed them up a bit. These are some of the crispest, driest headphones I've heard. My absolute go-to for acoustic music.
I really appreciate your reviews!! Thank you for doing them and stay that calm and objective!
I'm glad the cable does pull out. Better wrecking the cable than the port. My DT770's died from my attempt to fix the cable at that end (I would have had to ship to Germany for repairs which cost as much as the headphones). Good to see the issue is fixed.
I felt the treble highs for the first 10 hours of use. After a year they still sound amazing.
Good thing I grabbed two of these when they were available. A detachable cable and under $200 (I got them for $120) was a pretty sweet steal.
thanks dude, this really helped me pick out a new pair of monitoring/mixing headphones. been salivating over these beys for a while
+Jack Powell yeah these are actually pretty solid. Just be aware of their hyped bass and treble as is par for the course for Beyers
Just got in mail, loving them so far! Level of treble IS noticeable.
You should have so many more subscribers. I love all your reviews and you convinced me to buy some 770 Pros. Thank you!
When I saw your yellow background in the search videos I thought this is some amateur reviewer. Avoided clicking on it. Was doing a thorough search on the DT770 and decided to click on your link expecting nothing. Boy was i wrong. Your review on beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 Ohm, It is perfect. Keep the good work. Now I am down to choosing between beyerdynamic Custom Studio Review OR DT770 Pro 80 Ohm. Since I saw in previous comments you got a DT770 back, do you still belive they are the king between the 2? Any updates?
+Frak U Gaagle I would probably take the custom studio nowadays. I've fixed the stupid lighting problem I ignored forever in newer reviews
I wish I would seen this headphone a few years ago. Beyerdynamic has discontinued it from what I’ve heard.
Awesome review as always! How do you compare this to the DT770-80 now since you've got another one? I'm interested in the bass response and soundstage. Thanks!
i remember seeing a comment from him on different video that the new dt770-80 ohm has just as much treble as the other versions.
I bought a pair of dt770's 80- ohm near the end of 2016 and going off from what i remember, these custom studios seem to have a bit more treble then the dt770 i bought years ago.
Now i'm not sure if my mind is playing a trick on me, but i find that closing the ports reduces the treble, making the headphone sound warmer and more tolerable for me.
The treble on these don't attack you right away but you'll find your ears getting sore a little after an hour of listening to these
@@apieceofcrap8794 how are the dt770s for gaming, music and watching movies?
@@qw9 not sure about movies since a i try use headphones that are neutral as possible for that.
When it comes to games, If you want to hear enemy footsteps, then do not get these but if you want explosions, gunfire or sound in general to feel like its big and grands than these are good for that. Imaging and sound stage is good enough for gaming
when it comes to music that also depends on your preferred genre. I listen to rock and metal so i like these, but for something like classical or jazz perhaps not
@@qw9 Custom Studio in the other hand is great for gaming, because you can reduce the bass to hear footsteps.
I’m buying for my father. He’s been in concert live music environments for a long time, and has an affinity for Beyer headsets in that setting. Buying him a set of audiophilish cans, and due to removal cable and styling I’m thinking of getting him these. He’s got to fly frequently so that’s why I’m going to the closed back Beyers over the 880 or 990, he’d like to not be “that guy” listening to open cans on a plane. If he’s already got some upper frequency hearing loss or tinnitus, would these be a safe bet? I’m getting him a nice DAP to power the 80 ohm nicely.
now in 2019 do you still recomend dt 770 80 ohm? im torn between them and the 990s pro
I as well which one was better though
Me too!
What did you choose?
I still own a 770 80 ohm. I'd never own a 990, that's some extreme treble that I can't put up with at all personally lol
@@SocietateaAscendenta i got the 990s , they are good but they are kinda of uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time tbh. So i dont use them that much. Since then i bought several pairs of headphones
@@nick-vq1ef Thanks for the response!
Great review! I've been loving these headphones so much lately but I still can't seem to figure out why no one is talking about them. Anyone know why these flew under the radar compared to other models?
Man, I only learned about these a few days after purchasing 770/80. So pissed, it's basically the same thing but with removable cable and cool looks, at the same price :(
I think you made the right choice. I just compared the DT 770 Pro/80 against the DT 700 Pro X and DT 770 Pro X LE. Both didn't do it for me. Then I remembered these discontinued Custom Studio and looked them up: The Headphonecheck review shows a bump at 120Hz which usually leads to mud in my ears. Another commenter here mentioned the same. So I'll stop questioning it now and be happy with the 770/80, there's a reason why these are a legend. And probably a reason why the CS isn't.
So why didn't I like the Pro X?
DT 700 Pro X: Too much clamp, much less soundstage. Little sparkle in the treble but it can still get sibilant and grainy. Bass, while pretty well balanced, is missing a bit of impact.
DT 770 Pro X LE: Too V-shaped with pretty recessed mids. Sharp treble but still without the DT 770 Pro's sparkle, and a bit too much bass. Soundstage is wider than on the 700 Pro X, about as wide as on the 770 Pro, but not as natural.
DT 770 Pro: Bass amount and impact is between both Pro X, just right for me. Very nice balance of bass, mids and treble, very clear and detailed treble without being overly sibilant, not grainy at all. Mids can sound ever so slightly boxy at times - that's the only thing the 700 Pro X does better for me.
Another reason you still might prefer a Pro X is that they're easier to drive, so they can get louder.
are these worth getting if I have the dt770 already?
They're both DT770s basically so no not really.
metal571 thanks that's what I thought
DT770 has fixed tuning and better bass overall but otherwise theyre the same headphone.
Crackling means blown driver, or possibly a hair trapped in the driver which isn't uncommon on DT series headphones. As far as which cable mod, the most common one I've seen is the mini XLR. For my DT880s I just braided the cable to a shorter length. For DT770s I just got custom Studios instead and bought a cable from NewFantasia/NeoMusicia on Amazon.
These or Custom One Pro? I will not be using amp but don't modern smartphones and laptops run 80 ohms just fine?
hello i don't know if you remember me, i asked you some months ago about the differences between dt770 and custom studio. i am glad that you did this review. i also saw the 1770 review (i hoped they were way better in sound but now i doubt). my brother has dt770 and i have the custom studio. from my perspective (i don't know how to explain in technical terms) the 770's are like 5 % better in bass - i find the perfect bass in the studios is somewhere between the 3-rd and 4-th podsition (yes you can do that)..fully closed it sound just too boomy for me (i am pairing them with a c5 jds labs amp from where i can adjust more the bass if i want). on the other way i find the mids and soundstage is also about 5 % better on the customs. i also like more the design, removable cable (it fits a simple straight jack to jack cable from every shop). another thing that could be tested is the improvement in sound and comfort by changing the velour pads with the brainwavz hybrid pads. i noticed an overall improvement in sound, bass is a little bit better and the treble is not so present, overall for my taste is a good investment. i also wanted to ask what will be your three best sounding over ear headphones in the 4-500 euros price range (i trust your ears and your reviews - at least for the headphones i had untill now). thank you
Actually now that I bought a brand new DT770 80 ohm I can't stand it because it's much brighter than the custom studio. So actually I like the custom studio more even though it's still too bright for me. If you like the bass at that low of a setting you might actually really enjoy a DT880.
Honestly I don't really feel like there's much between the mid-fi range of 200-400 USD and the summit fi 1000+. The only way to truly upgrade from stuff like the DT770 and HD 650 is to go all the way to kilobuck land.
I completely agree with you on this point. I noticed a couple years ago that once you reach that 200-400 USD range, there's really only side-grades as you work your way up to the "summit-fi" category of headphones. And even then, you're really only getting to hear noticeable improvements between these $1000+ headphones if you listen critically to well mastered and recorded music.
George Ursache hi George I'm planning to pick one of these up. What do u mean by fits any jack to jack from every store? Could u give me a specific amazon link cause the detachable cable is the main reason I'm buying these!
+John Kim don't worry about the cable. The other end is standard. Just buy it lol
metal571 does this mean I can buy any jack and it will fit it??
Having both these and dt 770, these are better in terms of clarity and accurate bass. I find that these eq better in terms of harmonic distortion. The mids and highs are pretty similar, I'd say these have cleaner highs but it's not less than the dt 770. I find it to be pretty neutral treble. In that regard poor recordings are rough. You can veil them in eq really easily. The isolation on these are better and the inserts can be fun (I made wood inserts for them).
These are my favorite tracking headphones for vocals, when closed all the way the isolation is awesome and it really pronounces the mids and highs (around my range).
Late to the party, I know, but in case you see this can you tell me if the Custom Studios are a good fit for electronic music? Or you'd say their treble clarity would render them fatiguing for long listening sessions?
PS: How did you make wooden inserts?? I'm intrigued now!
I bought a pair of 770’s (80 Ohm ) for studio recording and practice. I need the detail for development of my 5 string bass tone with effects. The 10 foot cable is essential when I’m standing playing and recording. It is my understanding that these headphones are designed and used primarily for professional musicians to use in studios. They do all I need.
They are a very common tracking headphone yes
From what I can remember, DT770 is more V-shaped with better sub bass but recessed lower midrange, so it sounds thin, but bass hits very hard and deep. Custom studio on the other hand is more midrange focused, lower midrange is warmer and upper bass fuller, but sub bass is less extended. With ports set to more than linear bass, it sounds just muddy. So generally, if you want more realistic and natural sound, buy Custom Studio, if you want more bass focused, I would say exciting sound, buy DT770.
i bought custom studio. amazing closed
Really like your channel and reviews. well done !! Could I ask your opinion on a matter. Looking at getting a pair of headphones. Choice between momentum 2 or dt 770 80 or beyerdynamic custom pro. In looking for a headset with great sound but won't leak sound and has good isolation for portable use ( plane etc) would be driven mostly by a phone and would be playing metal and classic rock mostly.
Great review thank you. Oddly,I believe you're wearing some cans here that are very close to my heart; the Shure SRH840.
I'm deciding whether to buy the Customs or replace my 840s ( mine recently broke after years of re-repair )
Trying to pick an affordable closed back set of cans for my Yuulong Daart Canary. These are definitely on the shortlist, but there's so much choice these days!
I haven't found the DT770 Pro to be bass boosted. I feel it's tight and yes does go into the sub-bass but honestly if anything I found at times it's, well not lacking, but... not boosted? :)
Ok. Custom Studio or new 770 80 ohms?
Which did you choose? :D
I wanna know also:3
I have Custom Studios, but If I had a chance I might want to change to dt770 because it has better bass.
But then again Custom Studio has a removable cable...
I have DT 770 Pros and they are not bass monsters to my ear. They have fantastic range though and do represent the subs too - just the bass isn't hyped. But my pair are a good few years old. I can't remember if they had stronger bass response back when I got then. I also feel they have less isolation than I thought they had. The headband isnt very tight thought - another attribute I can't recall from when I got them so I can't compare. I've a feeling they had a tighter grip on my head. I'm guessing a loose fit would mean less bass also since they are not as close to my ears.
Is there any way for me to tight my 770 Pros up so that (a) they are tighter on my head and improve isolation and (b) increase the bass a bit?
Thanks for a very thorough review btw. Tempted to get these just for the removable cable!
Extend the brackets to maximum, the bend the cups inwords, there's a tutorial somewhere I cannot Remember. I recommend you go and check that out.
For me they where too clampy, I bended them out.
i love bass but im still confused tbh, just tell me if i should buy the custom studio or 770 pro please
Custom studio hands down, I just tried both today.
at beyerdynamic site they said these headphones is suitable for mixing and mastering. this is very tempting if i compare this to dt 770.
Thanks, this was very helpful. Keep up the good work
Interesting stuff. Good to see another review uploaded!
Which Sony cans were you wearing for this vid, btw?
+TheNorliss I actually gave the 7506 a shot for monitoring. And it was pretty good!
Yeah, these 7506 do seem well regarded for monitoring. What are they like for comfort?
+TheNorliss check out my review of them for all my thoughts, I made one pretty recently
Would the Fiio A3 be good enough to drive these on an iphone?
Do you need an amp or modern Flagship Smartphones can power those, should i get a Custom one pro?, im doing a music project so i want something that i can use in my PC and my phone too
I was seriously considering the DT 770 80 ohm per your advice but decided to scrap it because of the non-modular cable. How often do cables give out? I know with some of my older headphones, after about 1-2 years of use, they started to break down like all other 3.5mm cables.
These sound like a promising replacement for the DT770's but not sure if the overly accentuated treble might make my ears bleed.. I listen to 90% edm and prefer V shaped ..
Do you know of any alternatives to this? (Tight bass [good details between sub and upper bass] with good mids and crisp high's that aren't ear bleeding sharp)
Also, newly subbed :)
Not really, the 770 is king IMO. It is a pro headphone so if you had to replace the cable you could probably manage to order the part and fix it yourself. I wouldn't worry too much about that.
Where can I even get these in the US 😅 they just dropped the new 700 and 900 pro x that have detachable cable but it's also almost 300 dollars in price
Well now what do I have here, one amazon page on the b&o h6 and another on these....goddammit first I watch zeos and now I’ve been binge watching this guy for the pats 3 hours....AHHHH
+spacecats lol welcome to the rabbit hole
ive only been in the hobby for a month...
my wallet is sensing its death
if you could compare each bass slider setting to a headphones, which four headphones would correspond to each slider setting?
+sAmplify101 that's really tough. I think the lowest bass setting sounds like an HD 600 but with more upper bass bloat, the maximum setting sounds like a DT770 250 ohm but not nearly as much bass, and the others are somewhere in between.
I'm definitely getting these for music production, I use apple earpods so these would be a massive uograde. PLUS I'm a massive bass head lmfao. I would get the DT770s(they're cheaper) but the DT770s don't have a removable wire, I have bad luck with headphone wires so the removable wire and the sound sliders is probably why I'd get them. Good review!
I dont know if u made the purchase, but if U are a massive bass head, avoid these headphones.. The bass in DT770 (80 ohms) which I own and love is not overpowered, but just amazing controlled punchy one... u can feel its signature is flat and bassy at the same time but just fun... Also I'd recommend the DT990 pro 250 ohms, I love them and they are over fun with great bass... Its ur choice but take into cinsideration that u need an amp for both sets, I have the m-audio transit pro which can drive my cans (990 and 770) to the max level and the 80 ohms 770 is not drivable with the laptop or smart phone, it will reach 60% of the volume level in my opinion
I have both The Custom One Pro and the Dt770. Would the Custom One Pro be better for tracking than the Dt770?What's your opinion?
You say beyerdyanics dont break, but on the 770 and 990's I own, all the plastic attaching the ear pieces to the headband have cracked and on my 990's the cable has pulled out of the headset. Wont stop me buying another Beyerdyanic, but makes me question buying another without a detachable cable.
Hey Metal, I wrote a comment a while ago on one of your videos. Im struggling to find the perfect headphones for myself. Could you give me a really personal recommendation? I can spend around 170 dollars, and I usually listen classical music and metal. Thank you ;)
Thank you for the review. Great headphones. I have them. Question: How can I remove the pads to wash them?
They have a lip and pull right off. Washing won't bring back the foam thickness, which is what affects the sound the most btw. So eventually they will still need to be replaced when pads get flat
Hi there. Thanks for great reviews!
Question: Creddix is mixing/making edm music using headphones. With a good soundcard, which dt should he buy to be able to mix good sounding music that plays well? 770? 880? 990?
Best regards.
K553
Hey metal, I have been looking for a fairly affordable bassy closed back to add to my collection of open backs. What I am looking for is good sub bass and optimally also decent punch and slam. Should I go for the dt770/studio pro or the CAL?
770 will do the trick but it also has quite a bit of sibilance
thanks for the great review. had to leave /r/headphones to escape the angry mob
+kronbison lol a lot of us did including myself. Thankfully it seems to have calmed down since I stopped checking it daily but it's still more of a war zone than many other places
kronbison are you referring to that headphone forum?
Mike Dee he's talking about the subreddit
I know it's an old post but I'm taking a chance. Narrowed my searches to the DT 770 and Custom studio. The Studio are 2x the price of the DT 770 pro here in Canada right now. I like the fact you can adjust the bass but, is it worth paying that much more ? I don't like that all-flat cans, I prefer when they have a little EQ curve there so that's why I'm looking into the Beyer.
Very cool and informative channel you have there, thx for all the infos !
+S Perras nah no need for the custom studio if it's that much more expensive
yeah we're talking 170$ vs 300$. You kinda scared me with the annoying highs of the 770.
I really liked the idea of the adjustable bass but still, not sure it's a dealbreaker here. If you have better proposition I'm all ears !
I play and recorded rock and doom music, if that makes a difference.
thx a lot for the reply.
thanks this was really gr8 man
Today 1 buy one But at a lot of volume is distortion also sounds softer than my other headphones is that right?
How compare sound in this headphones to ath-m50x? Where bass is bigger?
Hey, great review first of all! I was just curious if you would be able to drive these on a phone and on a PC with integrated audio? I don't have an amp yet and don't think it's going to be quite soon that I'll buy one, and I couldn't find any comments mentioning my problem so I'm asking here. Thanks!
Decent Realtek desktop motherboard sound onboard should be okay, but I wouldn't use these on a phone or laptop. 80 ohms is a bit much for that.
Nice, thank you for your quick reply! I do have a Realtek sound onboard so I guess it should be okay :)
And if I wanted to listen to them on my phone, is there a way to amplify the phone's output?
MrJustSubscribing not if the hardware doesn't already provide enough volume and it probably won't. Depends on how loud you listen as well though
I'm curious why Beyer decided to put a port slider on a supposedly studio headphone.
They just have pulled it from the custom one pro, which isn't marketed as a studio headphone. Not sure why, but one benefit to having the slider that I don't think I mentioned is that when it's set to minimum bass mode, it increases isolation because it's completely closing a bass port
@@metal571 I can't remember if you mentioned but if you had the option between custom studio or dt770 80ohm which would you suggest?
They both should still be using the same driver so the extra features, especially the removable cable on the custom studio, is nicer to have
will any cable work, or only a Beyer cable?
I think you mess up audio-video synchronization and audio is like under a second behind video but the gap is noticeable and it looks unnatural when you speak.
+Stanisław Szczypuła yeah I also noticed that. What's strange is that in the original footage it is synced. TH-cam did something weird.
You can actually change the audio with youtube Studio afterwards. Btw thanks for the review I will buy this headphones :D
+Eragonder did not know that. I've figured out the timing a lot better in the most recent videos, it's a weird process extracting the best I can out of a webcam but it works
metal571 I saw worse videos today your video was one of the best with the topic headphones. One question though: Should I buy the CS or spend my money on other ones. My usecase is making electronic music.
Excuse me, sir... ¿this or the DT 770? I want a closed heapdhones that have 'more' neutral sound, 'cause the DT770 have this 'issue' in the highs. Sorry for my english, im from Peru.
Nope, same headphone driver as the 80 ohm DT 770 so this does not fix that issue. Try the K371
@@metal571 :O! thanks
I try with the K361, but the earpads hurt me in only 30 min or less, especially my left ear :(
Or my comfort or the sound in this case, so i don't know. I have many expectatives for the Beyerdynamic's
So, do you think listening to the most open stand is actually worth it?
the most common critique on the original COP`s was that the completely closed and open stands were in fact almost unlistenable due to complete overload or complete lack of bass ?
Google translate I guess? The most open setting on these sound good to me. Not overwhelming, just punchy. The lowest setting is definitely too little though.
metal571 sorry if I were to go on what the provided subtitles (in my native language) gave me I`d end up reading a car manual while watching you talk :0
Yeah the auto generated subtitles are probably pretty inaccurate lol
Please, could you tell me, if the M version can play noticeably louder than the Pro version, both 80Ω?. Because the SPL of the Pro' s is 96db, but 105db of the M version. I bought recently the 80Ω version, but I find them lacking volume, even when using headphone amp or dac. This will cost me 70 Euros more .in Greece, so is it worth? It will be very helpful if you answer. Thnx!
The 770M has absolutely no bass and is designed only for drummers for maximum isolation at a huge cost to sound quality. Don't buy it. I did already say that the 80 ohm does need some amplification, it isn't all that easy to drive
@@metal571 I noticed that with a good headphone amp they perform slightly louder. I like at least 113db-120db, sometimes, but that's ok. Anyway I loved these cans. Thnx!
I'm torn between the two, Custom Studio and 770 80ohm...
I understand that the CS are faster and flatter... But is it better?
And how is isolation on these when you open the bassports? How bad is it?
I have the DT 770 Pro 80ohm and I TRIED the CS.
The CS has more bass even when completely closed (120hz bump instead of an nearly inaudible 30hz +2DB).
I have to say that I still like the DT 770 more just because it's more realistic sounding (not 1990-like, but surely far away from the imaginary-sounding CS).
The isolation gets a lot worse when the vent Is completely open, but when completely closed the CS isolate more than the DT 770 (It has perforated vents on both cups).
Sorry for my english I'm pretty tired.
@@themthreeboys5563 You said "The CS has more bass even when completely closed"
But that doesn't make any sense!?
I own Custom Studios and completely closed they have NO bass and that's why the feature is there for.
Even fully open it doesn't match the sub bass of 770pro, not even close.
Hey bro, can you please review the lg v20 dac, the ess 9218 and compare it to some other portable sources ?
+Gaurav Bharadwaj I'm not big on DACs and amps. They pretty much all sound the same to me.
This guy is smart he must be an engineer
so what would the difference be between this and the custom one pro? they seem a very similar headphone
+Philip Harris have not heard the custom one pro but this is based on the DT770 and I don't think the COPs are.
Why cant they make ones with removable cups to make closed back and semi open back on our choice
Because that's not how headphones work, need a retune every time you do that due to the huge change in acoustics
Thanks so much for the review made me want to grab these bad bois so bad! Gonna exchange my m50x for these! You think it it will be a good upgrade? I would much rather get the DT770 but these have detachable cable so this wins anyway, so my question is do they sound similar?Favourite headphone reviewer alive. To be honest way more reliable than z reviews. I wait the day you can quit your job and fulfill ur career on TH-cam!
+John Kim haha I wish, programming is a fun full time job though and I don't think this will ever be as lucrative as that. This will be a good upgrade from M50x but more V shaped than them.
So I'm looking for good closed cans for home desk use under 200. I'm between these and the k553. Which do you prefer between the two? They're about the same price on Amazon right now
+fiendishshape K553, no question
Thanks. I've been on the fence about closed cans for months now because I just like IEMs way more for the price. There really isn't anything as good as the K553 for closed cans below $200 is there?
+fiendishshape no. That is the best closed back I've ever heard under 200
So I wanted to come back to this just because. I ended up getting both the K553 and these Custom Studios with the intent of returning one.
I can't part with either of them, they're both really fucking good. I'm surprised that your attitude towards the Custom Studios is so relaxed though. I fell in love with them immediately and can't ever see myself getting rid of them. They're almost as detailed as the K553 but with a better frequency response curve and better comfort. But then again, my gear is nowhere near as good as yours so my taste might be off.
Still, thanks again for getting me to try them both.
+fiendishshape K553 is more neutral. I actually like the Custom Studio more than the newest DT770 80 ohm FWIW but it's still too hot in the treble for my taste. Could be a lot more enjoyable than the relatively boring K553 for many genres. Both of em are good cans, just cause I like one better doesn't mean others won't. Glad you are having a good time with some solid closed backs
Hey metal571. I remember how you recommend for me for mixing akg k530 . It's hard to get them in my country so i start for searchin for other models. I searchin for akg k550 i hope they will be good. One of audio maniac - blogger in my cointry - reccomend them very much as reference headphones for their naturality. He listened a lot of headphones. metal571 can you reccomend them too over k530 ?
I don't even know what the 530 is lol. Yes the 550 is very neutral maybe only slightly bright so excellent for mixing. Very close to a flat response
sry. I mean K553 xD
Oh 550 and 553 are the same headphone,it's just a rebrand
I actually think custom studio at flat settings couls be nice for mixing. i decided to buy. m50x is only good after precise eq but scene is still small like trashcan
custom studio have only 100mW input, so is it save to connect them to hi-fi audio card that gives 1000mW at start?:)
+Sebastian Pietrzak as long as you don't start out with maximum volume
i have xonar ST and with high gain it have some major power at start
Can anyone tell me the difference between these and the "Custom Studio One pro"s?
Well, for one, the Custom Studio is 80 Ohms and the Custom One Pro is only 16 Ohms, which makes a huge difference. The Custom One Pro also has plastic leather pads instead of the velour pads. Bottom line; go for the Custom Studio.
Those two are not related, yeah. Custom One Pro is a much warmer sounding headphone and AFAIK has a separate driver, where the Custom One Studio is DT770-based with an adjustable port.
I understand that you prefer the highs of the DT770 80 ohm over the Custom Studio?
+Dominic Boucher not anymore since the 80 ohm 770 has changed since that review, seems like the newer ones target a less bassy and still too bright sound
metal571 Si, do you prefer the 250 ohm over the new 80 ohm?
+Dominic Boucher not a fan of any of them because it's not my sound signature preference, but the 250 ohm has the most resolution
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For gaming? Imagining? Hm... or maybe DT990 Pro are better for gaming?
These are made for gaming. Really good detail. Even running a BoomPro with mine. Set your vents to 2 and you're off to the races.
Dan Boud Just curious, if you’re on PC, are you plugged in directly to your MOBO? If not, what amp/dac are you using?
@@riahaidan For gaming (not music) I've got a pretty cheap 'n cheerful UGreen USB Audio Adapter (just under 10 bucks on Amazon) so I can use the BoomPro with sidetone. More than adequate to drive these and is a rock-solid little amp/dac with mic input that I found vastly better than the popular Sabrent at the same price. Recommended. Sadly, my on-board mic is really quiet and has a noticeable crackle. Hope that helps
i thought these were supposed to have less boosted treble than the the dt770-80s? interesting, need a new pair and it's definitely out of those two.
Slightly less actually, now that I have a brand new 770 80 ohm. Not sure what happened with the two other pairs I've heard before but the treble was never as bothersome. Could be the pads aging
thanks! i remember seeing this post where someone was comparing the two, even has a link to a graph showing CS with less treble boost www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/beyerdynamic-custom-studio-with-hm5-hybrid-pads-vs-dt770-80-ohm.2078/
MattyS54 Yeah I feel bad like I've deceived hundreds of people into buying the 80 ohm 770 now lol Iwill probably have to make a followup video
@@metal571 You could edit your summary above where you "choose" the 770
Hi what do you think is the best headphones for competitive gaming ? ( Closed would be better for me )
At a reasonable price, probably the DT770
metal571 thx for the fast response , I actually have the DT770 and I want to change to something better , price is not a problem if it deserve it ;)
At that point it is worth going with an open back for a real upgrade
metal571 hmm ,what open back do u recommend
If price really is no object, the HD 800 has the largest soundstage available of any headphone on the market. As an owner obviously I can attest to that as a fact
Will you do review on the new HD598 Cs?
+LifeGiven yes that is the next one I'm doing in fact
metal571 oh awesome!
Do you think these can work with a normal mobo/phone?
Some motherboards maybe. Phones, unlikely unless you have a powerful DAC like V30
What AMP+DAC do you run them from?
I drive them with Chord Mojo, very nice compatibility I would say
Interesting. I found them better overall than the Dt770-80. Its very possible its the same driver in a different housing. My comments are here: www.head-fi.org/threads/beyerdynamic-custom-studio.750881/page-3#post-13106290
+Mike Chin yeah the DT770 has changed seemingly since my review, see the pinned comment on the DT770 review for more info. I actually like these better but they're still a bit bright
+Mike Chin yeah the DT770 has changed seemingly since my review, see the pinned comment on the DT770 review for more info. I actually like these better but they're still a bit bright
Oddly enough, my DT770s before I sold them were from 2008 or so.
so what's the difference between these and the COPP?
Never tried em but I can tell you these are based on the DT770 whereas the COPs I believe have their own driver
which headphone would you say is the more "fun" sounding between the studio and dt770 80?
Fun is too generic a term. I think both are too bright to be enjoyable, but if fun means more V shaped then actually the DT770 has an even more V shaped sound
I can turn my power supply fan on and off through software.
Eventually I upgraded to one that runs the fan at 0 rpm unless under heavy load. Good to know software is an option as well
"Custom One Pro" vs "Custom Studio" vs "DT770 Pro"... obviously question: wich is better? I want to buy one of those headphones for my daily use (so I need a low impedance for used in my smartphone). The Custom One Pro have only 16ohms and the DT770 can have 32ohms. Between these two headphones, wich do you recommend me? Wich have better sound? Is practically the same? Thanks!!!
+A.David have not heard the custom one pro yet. It's supposedly quite different from the other two and more relaxed sounding rather than bassy and trebly. It's the most consumer oriented can so I'd probably go with the custom one pro.
The plastic ( locking key ) on the cable is quite weak and breaks easily - best to buy a V-Moda Speakeasy cable just in case.
Any difference in sound with more modestly priced Custom One Pro Plus ( with pleather ear pads )?
Bought portable Custom Streets and I think it even has more bass than Custom Ones ( last time I got to get a quick listen to them ).
+metring073 never heard any other Custom series headphones. Not sure why because the Custom One Pro has been out forever and seems a somewhat popular alternative to the M50 that I just never managed to get my hands on.
they nailed m50x with detail and clarity especially on step 3 of bass port. sound very linear with little variations at treble
i even can mix on these.
This...or the DT990 Pro?
+Rod 143 this
metal571 can you tell me why mate? Like the Sound signature difference...
+Rod 143 yeah. The DT990 has an insane amount of extremely sibilant treble. You won't like it
Have the same driver of the dt770 🤔??
No not quite - the dt 770 driver is more controlled with addditional rear damping in constrast to the custom studio
It is? Are there pictures of this
@@metal571 I don't have any at hand but the custom studios I had didn't have the 'bass reflex' cage (as beyer calls it) around the driver, nor did it have the felt cap over the magnet as opposed to the 770. If you go to beyerdynamic spares the driver parts are different too, thinking probably the smaller cup volume of the studio and the differences to the actual driver, whatever they may be, mitigates the need for the extra damping but idk. Definitely different!
@@dnalekaw4699 true, definitely not the same cup shape. never knew that, was honestly curious since i never took one of those apart but have been inside the dt880 and dt770 before. thanks
@@metal571 sure thing =) cup volume does make a shit ton of difference, I know for a fact if you transport all of the Ori mods to a smaller housing you get zero bass lol
How is this One Studio from comfort...let say comparing to V-Moda M100 (extremely bad), Sony MDR100ABN (good), Bose QC35 (excellent) and Sennheiser HD598/599 (very good)? cushion? clamping force?
+Yu Guan the clamp is on the high side but the pads are very comfortable.
metal571 what is your recomendation for open headphones for mixing ?
xeximaxi Why would you want to mix with open headphones?
Why wouldn't you when they're a far superior design from a physics standpoint? At least for checking mids and highs
metal571 I've never seen a studio that used open headphones. Out of the question for live sound. I've seen them in mastering sessions. All very high quality sounding final products. All Metal bands. Maybe I just never came across open headphone type of dudes.
Oh yeah obviously can't use an open back for live sound since there's no isolation. Open backs are for quiet and precise mixing and mastering studio work
Oh
Thanks for the review
Could you please tell me how to eq dt 770 80ohms to have less recessed mid and a tad less bass
+Hooman Z try EqualizerAPO and the Peace GUI plugin. Then you can set up your own parametric EQ to reduce bass and reduce treble which will naturally bring out the mids.
metal571 thank you for being helpful
it will be great if you review some amp/dacs
Hooman Z yeah I've had that request before but honestly I've hardly ever been able to tell the difference between DACs and amps so that's why I stick with headphones.
metal571 fair enough
K550 or K553 vs DT770 ?
If you're asking me what I'd rather listen to, that depends on what I'm listening to. The K550 and 553 are identical, it's just a rebrand. The DT770 80 ohm is probably my favorite closed headphone though.
IMO custom studio is what dt880 would've sounded like if they were closedbacks, with detachable cables.
btw regarding dt770 vs custom studio highs : i.imgur.com/lNnq3R1.jpg
I can't vouch for the accuracy of the graph but highs on these are definitely milder than anything else on dt series, but definitely boosted compared to neutral-er options.
The Beyerdynamic Custom Studio is not a DT 770 Pro,not even close in sound quality vice,but it is fun and have a nice cool sound to it.Its like a cheaper and ligther versjon than the DT 770.
The custom studio is more expensive
That's not the general consensus though
did you just run a marathon? you need a de esser! breath remover...... anything that would help you not breathe or SWALLOW. (GULP)
Sometimes I'm an idiot and shoot these things right after eating which is a stupid idea. Getting better at timing the shoots lately.
I'm not impressed with the Custom Studio. I know they have to be broken in but both already sound like they're blown.
And they can't compare to my Audio Technica ATH A900x which are my all-time favorites.