"Luke was unaware of the spirits who watched him from the shadows of the lambent woods. But later, when he rejoined his allies for the victory celebration in treetop village that was home to the Ewoks, Luke saw three shimmering apparitions materialize in the darkness. They were Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda...and his father Anakin Skywalker. The Jedi had returned"
It’s fascinating that in the Ahsoka series, Anakin essentially describes himself as “whatever the Galaxy needs him to be”. He had no say in the matter from the very beginning.
U know I’m glad that in death and becoming one with the force. Anakin Skywalker became a true grandmaster. RIP Grandmaster Anakin Skywalker. My Star Wars TTRPG character Jacen Starryder heard bout u. That u were a famed Jedi. May ur words of wisdom,teaches&lessons still teach from beyond the grave.
This is why Anakin Skywalker is my personal favorite Jedi. And why Darth Vader is my personal favorite Sith. We are not born great, we all made mistakes and poor choices. Anakin/Vader is a symbol of the good and bad of human nature.
Yeah exactly, and how good means can become bad and bad means somehow can turnout good, the complexity of nature. And also.. somehow Anakin is so relatable. He's my all time favourite character as well!
The only people I blame for Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side are Mace Windu and Palpatine. Anakin didn’t chose the Dark Side; he was manipulated by Palpatine all the time. As for Windu, I blame him because he represents everything wrong about the Jedi Council and the Order itself. Anakin worked so painstakingly hard for them and everyone else….but almost NOBODY likes to give a fuck about anything except themselves.
Anakin's meeting with Obi-Wan in the after-life was quite emotional in Legends. In this continuity, Anakin hears Obi-Wan's voice just after dying. Anakin sadly tells him how much he regrets his actions, to which Kenobi responds: "Anakin, shut up if you don't want your spirit to be forever lost in the Realm of the Force. I have one last lesson for you." And that's how the Chosen One knew how to become a Force ghost and see his children again 🥲
Anakin in Legends also asked Obi-Wan why should he deserve the gift of immortality since all of the horrible things he did as Vader. Obi-Wan basically said that it’s because he was the Chosen One and that he was wrong to doubt him. Very touching scene.
I actually like this canon version it makes sense that Anakin the chosen one would be able to do stuff like become a force ghost through sheer willpower and that not even the force itself would be able to stop him. And after death was finally able to learn the lessons he never could in life and that he actually did genuinely regret everything he did. I also like the fact that his first thought after dying was to defy death through sheer willpower and find a way to save the galaxy and write the wrongs he committed and that nothing could not even the force itself would stand in his way. That's exactly the kind of mindset I would expect from Anakin in that scenario.
I wonder if they were able to repair their relationship in the afterlife. After Obi-Wan reunited with his Padawan as a force ghost, I'd imagine they have a lot of catching up to do and they might repair their friendship since Luke redeemed his father.
I think I’m legends or a noval, I’m not sure exactly which one, Anakin began to apologize for everything that he did and obi wan helped him become a force ghost before he died completely. To me this is important because obi wan still cared about anakin even after the events that happened. Anakin let go and forgave himself so obi wan had to do the same.
Not sure if it’s addressed, but I love the small detail that Anakin’s force ghost is of an age when he was most pure and not elderly, even though Obi’s ghost is when he’s older. As if your force ghost is of your purest moment in the light
@@rolandlarson9410 Anakin was changed into his young version because that's the last time he was whole. Even before having his limbs cut, most of Anakin died when Sidious named him Vader.
The least they could have done is change the entire ghost rather than attach a head to the old body. And maybe not butchered the entire saga as well (Disney is awesome). He also should be a different force ghost, as he did not train with Yoda at the Wellsprings in Clone Wars. Twisted, that is. @@Gabu_
@@rolandlarson9410 I understand being annoyed they changed the film to have younger Anakin after we always saw the original. Though Vader was always an entire team of people and not one actor. From a lore perspective I like that he was changed as a ghost, it's like how some people who've lost their sight dream as themselves how they were before they lost it.
. “After Anakin died in his son's arms, Obi- Wan called out into the void, "Anakin." A moment later, Obi-Wan heard a familiar voice return from the darkness. "Obi-Wan? Master, I'm so sorry. So very, very "Anakin, listen carefully," Obi-Wan interrupted. "You are in the netherworld of the Force, but if you ever wish to revisit corporeal space, then I still have one thing left to teach you. A way to become one with the Force. If you choose this path to immortality, then you must listen now, before your consciousness fades." Obi-Wan sensed confusion and remorse in Anakin's psyche, then Anakin answered, "But Master . .. why me?" "Because you ended the horror, Anakin," Obi-Wan said. "Because you fulfilled the prophecy. Because you were ... and are . . . the Chosen One." But Obi-Wan knew in his heart that those were not the only reasons. He added, "Because I was wrong about you. And because I am your friend." Anakin answered quietly, "Thank you, Master." From: The Life and Legend of Obi Wan Kenobi In the Expanded Universe, Obi Wan had to first forgive Anakin in order to bring him fully into the light. This was force ghost Qui Gon’s final lesson to Obi Wan.
I’ll admit it brought a tear to my eye Anakin recognizing the mistakes he made and the regret that washed over him while Obi-wan listening and comforting Anakin helping him realize while he made mistakes those do not erase so easily but neither does the good deeds he achieved in life either and his ultimate sacrifice to save his son and the galaxy were his and he should forgive himself as he and Luke have. Luke and Leia representing the best of Anakin and Padme, continuing the Skywalker name and forging their own path in the galaxy
I’m excited about what they’re gonna do with the new Ray movie and how she’s going to train the next generation of Jedi, considering she essentially is a Skywalker
Man I can tell you when I watched this scene on it's opening day in May 1983, Anakin's death scene on the death star in front of Luke was very solemn and emotional. I can remember hearing some people crying and some moans from the crowd in the theater that day. I myself was also feeling the sadness so overwhelming that to this day in this year 2023 I still feel the same as I did 40 years ago. What an incredible story and powerful saga!! Thank you George Lucas. I seriously doubt anything will ever rival the entire Star Wars saga!!
Indeed. I consider Obi-Wan to be the most pivotal character in the franchise, just slightly above Anakin and Luke - I'd probably call him the central character if I had to pick just one, as it's his actions that have the greatest impact and cause a chain reaction leading to Anakin turning to the dark side as well as the (indirect) fall of the Republic. Impatient but willing to learn as a Padawan (typical folly of youth), strict and inflexible as a Jedi master (a responsible adult) and eventually becoming more lenient and laidback in his older years while remaining caring and sympathetic to those close to him.
I like the interpretation that Anakin's time as Vader was necessary for the downfall of Palpatine, and that this was also the will of the living force. It's only after decades of obedience, instances of rebellion, followed again by even more adherent obedience that would convince Palatine that Vader was completely subservient. Palpatine was so convinced, that the possibility never entered his mind that Vader would intervene, even as his son was being killed in front of him.
Also the story arcs of Leia, Luke, and the Rebel Alliance. It was a force that could finally challenge Palpatine. Nothing until then was really a threat to him, well at least after order 66.
It is not surprising that after experiencing under the pernicious influence of Palpatine, who broke his life, Anaken eventually snapped at the dark teacher all the anger accumulated over the years, taking revenge on him for all the pain and suffering experienced by that kind boy)). He really did a good job that he found the strength to finally save himself from the slavery he hated. Especially since he saved Luke's future from a similar fate.
Because he'd inevitably steal the spotlight as he is now considered as a legacy character equal/near equal to Luke Skywalker and would overshadow the new characters Disney wants to promote~
I know it’d never happen but I would literally cry if Ani and Obi together as force ghosts met with Ahsoka. That would just make me a sobbing mess. I do how we see Force Ghost Anakin reunite with Luke though at some point in the Mandoverse. 🧡
You could say the force ghost of Anakin or spirit already appear to Ahsoka in episode 5, there are many hints it was just not a vision, like when Ahsoka say I wont fight you and Anakin I heard that before and that is something Luke told him or how Jacen hear everything.
This really fits well with the lesson Anakin taught Ahsoka later on in her show. People are complicated, black and white thinking is what got them to their lowest points. You have to accept the past and keep moving forward.
This was a growing moment for Obi-Wan and Yoda, as well as Anakin. Before and after death, Obi-Wan referred to Anakin as a lost cause, totally unredeemable. Yoda echoed similar thoughts, seeing Luke killing his father as the only option. Anakin's actions proved both of them wrong, and it's clear that Obi-Wan, out of the two, learned and accepted that no one is beyond redemption. Yoda's thoughts on this are less clear, but he shows no animosity towards Anakin's ghost, so he must have come to terms with this on some level.
Dont forget, Yoda and Obi-Wan probrably felt responsible for making Anakin choose the dark side in ROTS. So itd be very hypocritical for either of them to criticise Anakin for his action after how badly he was mistreated and how much he had lost between TPM and ROTS, which is likely Obi-Wan somewhat realised in ROTS with 'I have failed you' but definately realised after he died. I hope we find out more about Anakin/Obi-Wan/Yoda as force ghosts.
@@Michael-bn1oi True, it would be easy to criticise that, but my point is it would also be hypocritical for 2 of the main causing factors of that to criticise Anakin.
@@franzschubertv2874But it's not the Jedi way to give up on someone. It's literally against their Code. More evidence that the Jedi Order, by the end, weren't true Jedi.
Very moving. It goes deeper into what happened in the afterlife for Anakin and explains how the three of them were able to be together in the afterlife and Luke could see them.
This last part almost made me tear up....For the first time in his life: Anakin found acceptance and was finally able to let go..😢😢😢 That's truly satisfying to hear that....
I noticed that he never found Padmé in the force. The whole reason he turned to the dark side was because he wanted to save her and destroyed her in the process. He lost her and lost himself. It's just interesting that their romance wasn't explored further after Anakin became one with the force. I think an apology to her would carry the same weight as his apology to Obi-Wan.
Padme didn’t have a connection to the force like Jedi did. So she’d never become a force ghost or apart of it. Which makes it sad when you think about it. He never got to apologize, or to see his wife again. She died for good, and there was truly no way to bring her back or to see her. So he’d have to live both his actual life and after life without the woman he loved.
nobody is gone forever. I imagine Padme's soul might go on its path as long as she learns how to connect to the force. Might be in another life in another body in another world. But her and Anakin will meet again. And then they ...really need to talk about some thing I guess@@levenderscent
@@levenderscent but every souls go to thé same place force sensitive or Not we can see that the spirit of padme still exist in the netherworld when he tries to bring her to life on mustaphar so when anakin goes to the netherworld of the force he can see her Also it was said in cannon that after ben solo death he reunites with his family and george Lucas confirmed a few years ago that they were reunited in the netherworld of the force
@@levenderscent lame hta tnto how wlak all lvie has souls she has oen to she cna not lvie with out it seem you and make f of stars faield to understand that one the body gets old the ghost cant be old so he enedd fic that carp 2nd all lvie when die ebcoem ghsots the is no gone forever crap
There's only ONE error in describing Anakin in the beginning, when was NOT without fear, in fact since Yoda and the Counsel spoke to him in the beginning as a kid, it was noticed that he was always full of Fear. And it was this fear that led him to the Dark Side, for "Fear is the path to the Dark Side" In all of his time as he became Asohka's teacher, he was always manifesting fear for something, and his impulsive actions were in fact always filled with a different fear. Darth Sidious in fact used Anakin's fears and fed them to seed distrust (another type of fear). This was his downfall, all because of his fear, but he let go of his Fear when he saw Luke getting attacked, in essence it was Luke's own Fearlessness that Anakin had reflected on his purpose. Luke was Powerful because his love, compassion and real lack of Fear made Anakin climb back to the Light Side. Luke was the Catalyst for his father's role, his Return to the Jedi.
The hero without fear moniker was one the citizens of the Republic gave him during the clone wars. He and Obi Wan essentially became celebrities on the Republic holonet, due to their many successful campaigns. The Novelisation of episode 3 describes how he accepts the nickname as he represents hope for a lot of people, but deep down he dislikes it as he feels nothing but fear.
As the other reply said, the “Hero With no Fear” was the Republic’s holonet title for Anakin, both for his many victories in the Clone Wars as well as Palpatine’s manipulation of the media to boost skywalker’s public image. It originally was used in the Revenge of the Sith novelization and was used again in this book as a reference to his heroic days.
The problem is just, that Anakins fear was never the problem. Fear is a natural emotion, and Yoda and the counsel were very ignorant by not accepting this. It laid the foundation for Palpatine to manipulate Anakin. Because he was the only one that seemed to really care for Anakins feelings. Luke also was not fearless. But since there was no Jedi order to block any unwanted emotions, he worked through it. He had his friends that supported him and his inner compass that he followed. Something Anakin was never allowed to do. Luke learned this lesson after so many Jedi have failed. He even got wiser than Yoda himself I would say.
So. If either Anakin or Obi-Wan had hired Ani's mother, or at least bought our her slave contract. He might have never turned to the Dark Side? Imagine a timeline where Anakin buys his Mother's freedom. Shmi gets hired on as an attendant to Padme. A much needed grounding presence for Ani and a moral compass. A trusted ear for Padme and hopefully a wise grandmother to Luke and Leia Skywalker. Damn, what could have been.
He’s not all-knowing and contrary to fan beliefs, could not foresee every single possibility. What Palpatine was good at was adapting. It is true though that he would never have allowed Shmi to have a continued influence in Anakin’s life.
@@herredward9277he looked like anakin because he should’ve died when he caught on fire. The suit wasn’t even keeping him alive it was his sheer willpower and force that kept anakin alive.
Heavy disagree. He had a horrible life, true,but his choices were always his own. He simply fell into a trap and his own actions were the cause. I love Anakin, but he was the man who made all the wrong choices. He was a good man who chose evil for love, bit became evil by doing so. He did not have to chose these actions. He could have trusted the force but did not.
6:06 "the power of friendship." ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Btw, this is an excellent video and it further shows that even under the dark armour of Vader, Anakin was truly one of the most tragic figures in all of fiction, and only wanted to save those he loved, only for others to manipulate and use him for their own ends, basically being a slave for his whole life regardless of who he served. I'm glad stuff like this shows Anakin was never pure evil, like some idiots say because of his crimes that he regretted deeply, as he never truly was evil. He just needed help and love, not distrust or deception.
Thank you so much for creating two separate playlists of Disney canon and legends cannon because they're two very different interpretations of Star Wars
2 things: 1.) whoa. I did not know the story existed, and just hearing a summary of it hit me deeply. Wow. 2) who here wanted to hear that story of Anakin‘s ghost, somehow subverting the will of the force, and somehow still impacting the universe via his force ghost with possibly greater impact then he had as Darth Vader? That was a scary friggen thought.
Well I doubt that this was against the will of the Force. It was probably just a choice he had, to fade away into the Force or carry on as a ghost to make amends and fight for justice. It’s just like the choice he told Ahsoka to make.
Anakin is both hero and villain, and the protagonist in a chain of events that profoundly changed the Galaxy. In the end, everything culminated in fulfilling the role he was meant: The one who would bring balance to the force. By slaying both jedi and sith, and forcing a change in what both cultures had become, the force once again became what it is meant to be and influence the galaxy. By serving the force or not, he remained its agent.
"Carry on the legacy of the Skywalker family" yeah until Disney decided to end the Skywalker bloodline some years later and replace it with Palpatines for no reason whatsoever.
Well the portraits of Obi Wan Kenobi especially in Episode 2 makes him look like Jesus, plus the character arc, and Ewan McGregor did play Jesus too in a movie.
I love Star wars, but I do not have the most critical thinking when it comes to media, I don't when it is the best time for a show movie series or something like that to end, but this book made me feel like Star Wars should have ended with episode six, and no sequels should have been made. Now this just feeling that got. I haven't made up my mind if this is my actual opinion. I do enjoy some canon squel content and alot of the legends content that takes place after the return of the jedi.
One of the greatest acts Anakin did in his final moments was to give hope back to the galaxy by exposing himself to fatal injury in order to save the life of the one who would bring back freedom. That is why Luke MUST be allowed to life and rise as a character if all the previous films are to have any sort of meaning. Disney's spinoff shows are up for debate, but their "sequels" are simply not canon.
So Anakin passed his final challenge as a Jedi, huh? Here's how I imagine that conversation going.... Obi-Wan: "This was your final challenge as a Jedi, Anakin." Anakin: "So does this mean I'm a Jedi Master now, Obi-Wan?" Obi-Wan: "What? No! Don't be ridiculous!" *Yoda appears* Yoda: "A killer of younglings, a master can never be" Anakin: "You mean I have to spend eternity with you two and I never get to be a master?! This is outrageous! It's unfair!" Yoda: "Our punishment as well this is"
Yoda:Killed younglings you have. Choked Padme you did. And killed... Anakin: Don't say it! Doesn't count! Yoda:Killed Mace Windus dignity you have done also. Mace Windu: Yeah man! You made me lose my favorite lightsaber!!! Anakin: Oh my god I am not worthy.
Interesting and makess you wonder if the reason Obi-wan died so easily in their final fight was actually part of his plan. Like he knew vader/anakin was going to die and Obi-wan wanted to be there for him to guide him and help him in the afterlife in a way he was never able to when Anakin was still alive.
That would make sense. The very last thing Obi-Wan sees before being stuck down is Leia & Luke reunited for the first time. He smiles, closes his eyes & prepared to become one with the Force. Maybe at that exact moment he knew that Anakin's children may redeem him & being him back to the Light Side of the Force
@@CharlieUnicorn-gv9yv yeah thats how i always took that smile. Obi looks at luke looks back at vader and smiles - at that moment he sees vaders redemption through Luke - beautiful moment
@@nathanjones7026 from Legends he didn't believe in Vader redemption. They just wanted Luke to end him, however Luke decided otherwise. Obi-wan and Yoda became Force Ghosts to guide Luke even after their demise
Hey, Lore Master, do you think you could do a video on Iskat Ikaris/13th sister? I finished the novel Rise of the Red Blade and her story is so tragic and it's worthy of a video.
I’ve read the novel the rise and fall of darth vader, and this isn’t quite how it happened, it’s been quite a while since I read it but I remember that Anakin was actually about to go into the nether of the force, but then Obi wan reached out his hand and saved him, and then anakin started to tell him that he’s really sorry and that he hopes obi wan can forgive him, and then obi wan says of course he can because Anakin has redeemed himself and done the prophecy of restoring peace to the galaxy, and then teaches him to be a force ghost, Haha so yeah but I guess there’s many books with theories, but the rise and fall of darth vader is my canon :)
That's from the original expanded universe, this video covers the new "return of the jedi from a certain point of view" book that is apart of the post-Disney star wars canon. I might make a video on the version you're referring to at some point tho!
SOOOO much better than the other lame story of Anakin’s ghost speaking with Leia, and both of them getting into a hissy fit, and it never resolving. Wonderful video.
Leia had no need of Anakin as a long lost father. Unlike Luke, Leia had a father and mother - Bail Organa and his wife. And she would never forgive Vader for his part in their deaths.
@@timonsolus false. Though it is true she felt that way after meeting Anakins force ghost. However after finding footage of Anakin at the podrace realizing he was born a slave and empathize with him. She later forgave him.
Both can be true. Anakin can be forgiven because he truly is sorry and wants to repair with the galaxy, AND he may not be forgiven by everyone individually, at least not right away. Including Leia.
The incorporation into the force is effectively the achieving of Nirvana and the breaking free of Samsara. It’s cool to see those ideas played with in pop culture.
I imagine the conversation, right before they appear as Force ghosts to Luke on Endor, to be this: Obi-Wan: "Come, let us see my nephew one last time" Anakin: "Your nephew?" Obi-Wan: "Yes, your son. We are still brothers, are we not"? Anakin: 🥺... 🥹
Anakin dying: no (Becomes force ghost) Obiwan: seriously, you said no and it worked? Anakin: yeah, was it not supposed to be that easy Obiwan: I trained for years to learn how to do this and you just “nope” your way out of death? 😂
Interesting. Obi Wan brings a new perspective to Anakin's obsession with power. Anakin started off seeking power as he felt helpless to save those he cared about, and he felt that with enough power, he could bare the responsibility he felt to save more people in the long run, unable to accept what happens in life things that are not within his control, but also blind to the idea that having friends and other companions who are also able to help others would have allowed him to share the burden he placed on himself. Throwing away everything for the purpose of saving everyone, only to become a self-fulfilling prophecy is a real tragedy, and his tragic flaw was perhaps trying to take on all these problems by himself and being overcome with rage so that he couldn't see these other paths.
This is so beautiful, poetic and peak story-telling. We got so much canon lore that could be shown on screen. How did Luke end up living in miserable condition alone, Leia leading the rebels alone, Han runing away from his responsiblities togheter with Chewy but inside, alone as well. It's heart breaking what has become of our heroes.
That was absolutely wonderful! That gives perfect context to the end of RotJ, when Obi-Wan, Yoda, & Ani stood there smiling as force ghosts, watching the happiness of Luke, Han. Leia, and the rest of their friends...now that I know what was going thru Ani's mind.
Luke did something no jedi ever did. He beat the sith using his words. Never giving up on his father, appealing to his little humanity. Anakin finally woke up and sacrificed himself for the life of his son, the sone he and padme brought into a galaxy. Its my opinion that had qui gon jinn lived, anakin would likely never wouldve fallen to the darkside. Qui gon was very much like a father figure in their short time together. He wouldve properly taught anakin to cope better with his mothers loss and his frustrations with the order.
I liked the force awakens not gonna lie but the last Jedi had so much lost potential. And Rise Of Skywalker was pretty good but definitely could have been better
@@joryherod8413 Rogue One was so good and Force Awakens was okay. I think the new story doesn’t necessarily ruin the old one because I don’t think the ideas it presents are that bad but it’s the execution that really kills it for me. Honestly, Palpatine “coming back” isn’t nearly as bad in context compared to Kylo Ren’s entire character. When you finish the movies you realize the story could have been so much better if they developed him a bit more, returned him to light and had him trained by Luke way earlier, and maybe had Rey embrace the dark-side to really subvert viewer’s expectations. The relationship between Ren as a padawan and Luke could have been interesting. If Rise of Skywalker had focused on the dynamic between Ren and Rey and had him convince her that the dark would only lead to destruction before her return to the light with regret due to her nature, the story couldve just been so much better. It makes 100x more sense in the context of the original story to do that especially when Ren seems to hold Vader in high regard. Luke battling his anger over Han’s death as Ren learned to follow Anakin’s true path as the next Skywalker would have been so much more interesting.
Yeah it kinda yes and no Even in Legend George does confirm and wrote that the Force flow in everyone and everything It is life itself I think that Anakin might be wandering places within the Force and “feel” his mother by his side Maybe she can’t manifest like he do, or maybe she can be shown for him But I think we all sure one way or another he know his mother is by his side
Anakin: “I killed them. I killed them all Obi wan. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I hate them!!! Obi-wan: .....
Imagine how much better the sequels would have been if Force Ghost Anakin just showed up to finish off the First Order (Whether it's Palpatine or somebody who makes more sense.) It would've shown that no matter what evil takes power in the galaxy, the chosen one would always be there to protect it in order to make it right for all the evil he caused.
in one of the original dialogs for ROTS, Anakin is begging obi wan for help and obi wan declines. In ROTJ Luke begs for help and Anakin appears were obi wan failed. This is the true testament where Anakin did win over Obi Wan.
Episodes 7 to 9 the Disney necanon. Lucas wanted to make other arcs: about Anaken, Luke and their descendants. It's a pity that the franchise rights went to the crooked mouse house, which ruined everything. In the comics, Palpatine returned by applying the ancient ritual of the Sikhs. He had three clones that eventually couldn't stand his power. And with the death of the latter, the main villain died completely before reaching true immortality.
Makes me get choked up thinking he grew up as a slave plunder wado and he did countless good things almost undoing it as Vader he pulled a younger kratos for sure but didn’t live long enough to see the good stuff
i will forever see anakin and vader as a split personality deal. anakin held vader back which allowed kenobi to beat him on mustafar. When anakin thought all he had loved and cared for he gave up and let vader take over. When he found out he was lied to and his kids were alive, he began to fight back again. that also fits well with the eye/personality changes in rebels and obiwan series'. my own personal head canon
@jackbrennan1125 Yeah, but like in the sense that she is not a tangible being anymore. They would be together, but they wouldn't even know they were together if that makes sense. They would feel each other there, but because you are one with the force along with the rest of the dead, they would probably not even notice. That is kinda tragic to me. It's a different idea of what I believe is an afterlife.
@@PrincessSereneIMHO the one truly great addition to the Star Wars saga that the sequel trilogy made was the spirit of Han Solo visiting Ben Solo. Maybe if they do continue Anakin's journey as a Force Ghost, Padme could visit him the same way
Thank you for the video, i had no clue of this special edition story. I think i'm not the only one who wondered what were Anakin's thoughts after his death or how he became a force ghost so easily, like right away
That story about the sun dragon reminds of Jet's Kilimanjaro story from Cowboy Bebop. "I hate stories like that. Men only think about the past right before their death, as if they were frantically searching for proof that they were alive."
This is a beautiful ending yet pisses me off at the same time! Had the Jedi council and Obi-Wan been more sympathetic to him when he was alive and addressed his trauma and respected him more before he turned to the dark side, he might not have turned……………I know, I know, “then we wouldn’t have had a movie” but I’m just saying………as a hypothetical.
@@TheHishugeness apparently caring for others, being kind, being a decent human being, or anything other than being cruel and uncaring asshole is being “woke” to you soulless lost cause right-wingers!
My Theory for Anakin Skywalker's Future: Anakin died and became a Force Ghost. He would transcend into the World Between Worlds, where he contemplated his sins as Vader and his life as a Jedi Knight. He would use the realm's gateways to study the past, the Mortis Gods, and the Force. He would even commune with the Whills during his training. 25,050 years of Jedi and Sith teachings now lived in Anakin, and he grew to become the new Father of Mortis, the embodiment of the Force. Ahsoka would follow after her mortal death and join Anakin as the Daughter, embodying the Light Side of the Force. The new Son of Mortis would join them. Together, they work to continue bringing balance to the Force in the Known Galaxy and Galaxies far, far away. However, the Force becomes disrupted by the rise of Abeloth, the Mother of Mortis, who turns to become an evil Dark Side entity. Abeloth blames the Force for destroying her and her family (The Father, The Mother, and The Son) and desires vengeance against Anakin, who she believes was responsible for her family's death. The death of the Force is what Abeloth wants, and Anakin must intervene to save the Galaxy from being stripped of all life and hope.
Brilliant! This would also be another part of the Prophesy. Anakin's journey through the Dark Side and back into the Light, allows him be the savior of the very Force itself
Seeing Anakin's worried or not happy face is so.... Wierd and even uncanny. Like seeing him so sad and or.... Non emotional is just so sad. I wish i could hug him or maybe be his trusted friend. Sheev Palatine sure was the devil of star wars☹️
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"Luke was unaware of the spirits who watched him from the shadows of the lambent woods. But later, when he rejoined his allies for the victory celebration in treetop village that was home to the Ewoks, Luke saw three shimmering apparitions materialize in the darkness. They were Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda...and his father Anakin Skywalker.
The Jedi had returned"
*Peter Griffin voice* "ohh that's why they call it that"
@@sd80mac fucken hell lmao
@@sd80macgod damm¡t dude 😂😂😂😂
Since the Jedi returned, he, or they could have easily guided Luke to not become the Luke of the sequel trilogy.
@@right_hand_power7960 You can thank Disney's janitorial staff (aka: "writing staff") for that.
It’s fascinating that in the Ahsoka series, Anakin essentially describes himself as “whatever the Galaxy needs him to be”. He had no say in the matter from the very beginning.
@@AceLM92 But the Force is within everything, including the Galaxy. One could argue that the Galaxy and the Force are One.
U know I’m glad that in death and becoming one with the force. Anakin Skywalker became a true grandmaster. RIP Grandmaster Anakin Skywalker. My Star Wars TTRPG character Jacen Starryder heard bout u. That u were a famed Jedi. May ur words of wisdom,teaches&lessons still teach from beyond the grave.
@@AceLM92you people find the most odd things to complain about. It’s such a bitch ass trait, nitpicking whenever you get a chance
I say that too, to avoid responsibility.
I can do those things… I killed those people…
No Anakin your no…
I’m whatever the force needs me to be!!
Anakin became the Jedi he strived to be in death, and Obi-Wan became the teacher Anakin needed after death. It's like poetry I guess.
i mean that the line George uses
@@Lord_Veren413 that's the reference I was making
and this is why there are only three movies in the Trilogy. The rest are failed fever dreams of mad Hatters obsessed with power and money!
The prequels are good tho. The sequels are trash
There are only 3 movies in the trilogy because it's a trilogy @PWingert1966
This is why Anakin Skywalker is my personal favorite Jedi. And why Darth Vader is my personal favorite Sith. We are not born great, we all made mistakes and poor choices. Anakin/Vader is a symbol of the good and bad of human nature.
Yeah exactly, and how good means can become bad and bad means somehow can turnout good, the complexity of nature. And also.. somehow Anakin is so relatable. He's my all time favourite character as well!
Agreed!
SUPER good point!
darth revan fans: reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
The only people I blame for Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side are Mace Windu and Palpatine. Anakin didn’t chose the Dark Side; he was manipulated by Palpatine all the time.
As for Windu, I blame him because he represents everything wrong about the Jedi Council and the Order itself. Anakin worked so painstakingly hard for them and everyone else….but almost NOBODY likes to give a fuck about anything except themselves.
Anakin's meeting with Obi-Wan in the after-life was quite emotional in Legends. In this continuity, Anakin hears Obi-Wan's voice just after dying. Anakin sadly tells him how much he regrets his actions, to which Kenobi responds: "Anakin, shut up if you don't want your spirit to be forever lost in the Realm of the Force. I have one last lesson for you."
And that's how the Chosen One knew how to become a Force ghost and see his children again 🥲
I think here it’s very well thought out
That is such an Obi-wan response.
Anakin in Legends also asked Obi-Wan why should he deserve the gift of immortality since all of the horrible things he did as Vader. Obi-Wan basically said that it’s because he was the Chosen One and that he was wrong to doubt him. Very touching scene.
@@PteranoLiv😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
"Anakin shut up"
*Classic Obi-wan lol* 😂😂😂
I actually like this canon version it makes sense that Anakin the chosen one would be able to do stuff like become a force ghost through sheer willpower and that not even the force itself would be able to stop him. And after death was finally able to learn the lessons he never could in life and that he actually did genuinely regret everything he did.
I also like the fact that his first thought after dying was to defy death through sheer willpower and find a way to save the galaxy and write the wrongs he committed and that nothing could not even the force itself would stand in his way. That's exactly the kind of mindset I would expect from Anakin in that scenario.
that or the complete opposite - he learns to let go but instead decides to become one with the force than be a force ghost, ending his life at peace
🤔I thought Anakin was able to pass on to be a force ghost ONLY because Obi-Wan taught him how to do it 🤔NOT because of Anakin's "sheer willpower."???
@@clintonmorris7318 yeah i've heard about that too and i like that idea more
@@clintonmorris7318that is Legends, so it was canon once long ago.
Didn't Ajunta Pall become a force ghost? It's not an exclusive club, right?
I like the fact he learns to just be mellowed out after death which is a big character trait he’s had since he was a kid very fitting
I wonder if they were able to repair their relationship in the afterlife. After Obi-Wan reunited with his Padawan as a force ghost, I'd imagine they have a lot of catching up to do and they might repair their friendship since Luke redeemed his father.
I imagine force ghost Ani and Obi made up with each other, apologized, and are BFFs to one another. 🩵
Probably since they were together in return of the jedi
Short answer they made up Obi taught Him how to be a ghost th-cam.com/video/BLH-XZ0jKnY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Z6nElDDo-JbLOOkv
I think I’m legends or a noval, I’m not sure exactly which one, Anakin began to apologize for everything that he did and obi wan helped him become a force ghost before he died completely. To me this is important because obi wan still cared about anakin even after the events that happened. Anakin let go and forgave himself so obi wan had to do the same.
@@orlandoroblero5503 look at my comment I posted it
Not sure if it’s addressed, but I love the small detail that Anakin’s force ghost is of an age when he was most pure and not elderly, even though Obi’s ghost is when he’s older. As if your force ghost is of your purest moment in the light
Thats beautiful 🎉
The original represents Anakin as an older man, Blu-Ray version changed it for some reason I guess for the fans
@@rolandlarson9410 Anakin was changed into his young version because that's the last time he was whole. Even before having his limbs cut, most of Anakin died when Sidious named him Vader.
The least they could have done is change the entire ghost rather than attach a head to the old body. And maybe not butchered the entire saga as well (Disney is awesome). He also should be a different force ghost, as he did not train with Yoda at the Wellsprings in Clone Wars. Twisted, that is.
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@@rolandlarson9410 I understand being annoyed they changed the film to have younger Anakin after we always saw the original. Though Vader was always an entire team of people and not one actor.
From a lore perspective I like that he was changed as a ghost, it's like how some people who've lost their sight dream as themselves how they were before they lost it.
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“After Anakin died in his son's arms, Obi- Wan called out into the void, "Anakin."
A moment later, Obi-Wan heard a familiar voice return from the darkness. "Obi-Wan? Master, I'm so sorry. So very, very
"Anakin, listen carefully," Obi-Wan interrupted.
"You are in the netherworld of the Force, but if you ever wish to revisit corporeal space, then I still have one thing left to teach you. A way to become one with the Force. If you choose this path to immortality, then you must listen now, before your consciousness fades."
Obi-Wan sensed confusion and remorse in
Anakin's psyche, then Anakin answered, "But
Master . .. why me?"
"Because you ended the horror, Anakin," Obi-Wan said. "Because you fulfilled the prophecy. Because you were ... and are . . . the Chosen One."
But Obi-Wan knew in his heart that those were not the only reasons. He added, "Because I was wrong about you. And because I am your friend."
Anakin answered quietly, "Thank you, Master."
From: The Life and Legend of Obi Wan Kenobi
In the Expanded Universe, Obi Wan had to first forgive Anakin in order to bring him fully into the light. This was force ghost Qui Gon’s final lesson to Obi Wan.
Damn.
I cried 😭
Incredible
Anakin has the darkest story and brightest ending
Read that book so many times
I’ll admit it brought a tear to my eye Anakin recognizing the mistakes he made and the regret that washed over him while Obi-wan listening and comforting Anakin helping him realize while he made mistakes those do not erase so easily but neither does the good deeds he achieved in life either and his ultimate sacrifice to save his son and the galaxy were his and he should forgive himself as he and Luke have. Luke and Leia representing the best of Anakin and Padme, continuing the Skywalker name and forging their own path in the galaxy
Somehow, Palpatine has returned.
Yet Obi-Wan refusing to admit the mistakes HE made. Or Yoda, or the entire Jedi order, etc. etc. etc.
He did apologize in the Obi Wan show when he broke off Vader's helmer
*helmet
I’m excited about what they’re gonna do with the new Ray movie and how she’s going to train the next generation of Jedi, considering she essentially is a Skywalker
Man I can tell you when I watched this scene on it's opening day in May 1983, Anakin's death scene on the death star in front of Luke was very solemn and emotional. I can remember hearing some people crying and some moans from the crowd in the theater that day. I myself was also feeling the sadness so overwhelming that to this day in this year 2023 I still feel the same as I did 40 years ago. What an incredible story and powerful saga!! Thank you George Lucas. I seriously doubt anything will ever rival the entire Star Wars saga!!
I agree! its my favorite films ever made! I love anakins performance. So many folks hate on him. They just dont see how good his acting was!
Same. Nothing will rival the 6 episodes of Star Wars!
Agreed! Nothing will rival how good the first 6 were and nothing will rival how bad the past 3 are.
@@balrogthedecimator6482Filoni saves the prequels with clone wars hopefully he can save the sequels too
Dune books
Obi-wan is such a great father figure. Unconditional love and forgiveness from someone that has endured so much. His character is frankly inspiring.
Indeed. I consider Obi-Wan to be the most pivotal character in the franchise, just slightly above Anakin and Luke - I'd probably call him the central character if I had to pick just one, as it's his actions that have the greatest impact and cause a chain reaction leading to Anakin turning to the dark side as well as the (indirect) fall of the Republic. Impatient but willing to learn as a Padawan (typical folly of youth), strict and inflexible as a Jedi master (a responsible adult) and eventually becoming more lenient and laidback in his older years while remaining caring and sympathetic to those close to him.
You got me man.. Anakin's story never fails to bring a tear to my eye.
Especially in the end. He finally fulfilled the prophecy and balance to the force.
i cried to man. Anakin was for once finally able to find peace.
I'm not crying. I have something in my eyes.
I like the interpretation that Anakin's time as Vader was necessary for the downfall of Palpatine, and that this was also the will of the living force. It's only after decades of obedience, instances of rebellion, followed again by even more adherent obedience that would convince Palatine that Vader was completely subservient. Palpatine was so convinced, that the possibility never entered his mind that Vader would intervene, even as his son was being killed in front of him.
Also the story arcs of Leia, Luke, and the Rebel Alliance. It was a force that could finally challenge Palpatine. Nothing until then was really a threat to him, well at least after order 66.
It is not surprising that after experiencing under the pernicious influence of Palpatine, who broke his life, Anaken eventually snapped at the dark teacher all the anger accumulated over the years, taking revenge on him for all the pain and suffering experienced by that kind boy)). He really did a good job that he found the strength to finally save himself from the slavery he hated. Especially since he saved Luke's future from a similar fate.
"Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose" - Yoda.
Now it makes sense.
elaborate please if you have time to
Words to live by.
"I told you you'd be the death of me."
"Don't say things like that, master."
I still consider it a lost opportunity that they didn't have force ghost Anakin in the sequel trilogy.
Because he'd inevitably steal the spotlight as he is now considered as a legacy character equal/near equal to Luke Skywalker and would overshadow the new characters Disney wants to promote~
Kathleen Kennedy hates men 🤷♂️
@@helivarpalac2956 Star Wars is mainly Anakin's story. How did Disney forget that?
@@CommanderBlackout31Kathleen Kennedy
The force ghosts didn't want to watch terrible movies anymore than we did....
This video broke me apart me, but i was so proud that Anakin accepted his past mistakes for what he did and learned to let go 😢😢😢
I know it’d never happen but I would literally cry if Ani and Obi together as force ghosts met with Ahsoka. That would just make me a sobbing mess. I do how we see Force Ghost Anakin reunite with Luke though at some point in the Mandoverse. 🧡
You could say the force ghost of Anakin or spirit already appear to Ahsoka in episode 5, there are many hints it was just not a vision, like when Ahsoka say I wont fight you and Anakin I heard that before and that is something Luke told him or how Jacen hear everything.
Luke, did I ever tell you about Ashoka Tano?
This really fits well with the lesson Anakin taught Ahsoka later on in her show. People are complicated, black and white thinking is what got them to their lowest points. You have to accept the past and keep moving forward.
This was a growing moment for Obi-Wan and Yoda, as well as Anakin. Before and after death, Obi-Wan referred to Anakin as a lost cause, totally unredeemable. Yoda echoed similar thoughts, seeing Luke killing his father as the only option. Anakin's actions proved both of them wrong, and it's clear that Obi-Wan, out of the two, learned and accepted that no one is beyond redemption. Yoda's thoughts on this are less clear, but he shows no animosity towards Anakin's ghost, so he must have come to terms with this on some level.
Dont forget, Yoda and Obi-Wan probrably felt responsible for making Anakin choose the dark side in ROTS. So itd be very hypocritical for either of them to criticise Anakin for his action after how badly he was mistreated and how much he had lost between TPM and ROTS, which is likely Obi-Wan somewhat realised in ROTS with 'I have failed you' but definately realised after he died. I hope we find out more about Anakin/Obi-Wan/Yoda as force ghosts.
Yeah, I would kind of give up on someone who sliced a bunch of children in half.
@@rileymorrisroe6743 it's very easy to criticize all the child murder and mass enslavement dude lol you missed half the point
@@Michael-bn1oi True, it would be easy to criticise that, but my point is it would also be hypocritical for 2 of the main causing factors of that to criticise Anakin.
@@franzschubertv2874But it's not the Jedi way to give up on someone. It's literally against their Code. More evidence that the Jedi Order, by the end, weren't true Jedi.
As someone who've had a less than ideal father, this video is full of wisdom that was much needed, thank you for that
keep it up my man
Very moving. It goes deeper into what happened in the afterlife for Anakin and explains how the three of them were able to be together in the afterlife and Luke could see them.
This last part almost made me tear up....For the first time in his life: Anakin found acceptance and was finally able to let go..😢😢😢 That's truly satisfying to hear that....
Same
first time in his life.... after he died... so not in his life
Same 😢
Sooooo good.....the whole book.
It's worth getting on audible, Sam Witwer is awesome in it.
Anakin “well this is awkward”
"Hey Anakin here, so uhh sorry I kinda killed you back then"
real@@laron1231
@@laron1231 "ha, you didn't kill me so that doesn't count"
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I noticed that he never found Padmé in the force. The whole reason he turned to the dark side was because he wanted to save her and destroyed her in the process. He lost her and lost himself. It's just interesting that their romance wasn't explored further after Anakin became one with the force. I think an apology to her would carry the same weight as his apology to Obi-Wan.
he can't - Padme is gone forever
Padme didn’t have a connection to the force like Jedi did. So she’d never become a force ghost or apart of it.
Which makes it sad when you think about it. He never got to apologize, or to see his wife again. She died for good, and there was truly no way to bring her back or to see her. So he’d have to live both his actual life and after life without the woman he loved.
nobody is gone forever. I imagine Padme's soul might go on its path as long as she learns how to connect to the force. Might be in another life in another body in another world. But her and Anakin will meet again. And then they ...really need to talk about some thing I guess@@levenderscent
@@levenderscent but every souls go to thé same place force sensitive or Not we can see that the spirit of padme still exist in the netherworld when he tries to bring her to life on mustaphar so when anakin goes to the netherworld of the force he can see her Also it was said in cannon that after ben solo death he reunites with his family and george Lucas confirmed a few years ago that they were reunited in the netherworld of the force
@@levenderscent lame hta tnto how wlak all lvie has souls she has oen to she cna not lvie with out it seem you and make f of stars faield to understand that one the body gets old the ghost cant be old so he enedd fic that carp 2nd all lvie when die ebcoem ghsots the is no gone forever crap
Man really went through the anime power of friendship in the afterlife
There's only ONE error in describing Anakin in the beginning, when was NOT without fear, in fact since Yoda and the Counsel spoke to him in the beginning as a kid, it was noticed that he was always full of Fear. And it was this fear that led him to the Dark Side, for "Fear is the path to the Dark Side"
In all of his time as he became Asohka's teacher, he was always manifesting fear for something, and his impulsive actions were in fact always filled with a different fear. Darth Sidious in fact used Anakin's fears and fed them to seed distrust (another type of fear). This was his downfall, all because of his fear, but he let go of his Fear when he saw Luke getting attacked, in essence it was Luke's own Fearlessness that Anakin had reflected on his purpose. Luke was Powerful because his love, compassion and real lack of Fear made Anakin climb back to the Light Side. Luke was the Catalyst for his father's role, his Return to the Jedi.
The hero without fear moniker was one the citizens of the Republic gave him during the clone wars. He and Obi Wan essentially became celebrities on the Republic holonet, due to their many successful campaigns. The Novelisation of episode 3 describes how he accepts the nickname as he represents hope for a lot of people, but deep down he dislikes it as he feels nothing but fear.
@@NowThatsPeng Gotcha, thanks.
As the other reply said, the “Hero With no Fear” was the Republic’s holonet title for Anakin, both for his many victories in the Clone Wars as well as Palpatine’s manipulation of the media to boost skywalker’s public image. It originally was used in the Revenge of the Sith novelization and was used again in this book as a reference to his heroic days.
@@TheLoreMasterYT And as my previous reply had said "Gotcha, thanks"
The problem is just, that Anakins fear was never the problem. Fear is a natural emotion, and Yoda and the counsel were very ignorant by not accepting this. It laid the foundation for Palpatine to manipulate Anakin. Because he was the only one that seemed to really care for Anakins feelings. Luke also was not fearless. But since there was no Jedi order to block any unwanted emotions, he worked through it. He had his friends that supported him and his inner compass that he followed. Something Anakin was never allowed to do. Luke learned this lesson after so many Jedi have failed. He even got wiser than Yoda himself I would say.
So. If either Anakin or Obi-Wan had hired Ani's mother, or at least bought our her slave contract. He might have never turned to the Dark Side?
Imagine a timeline where Anakin buys his Mother's freedom. Shmi gets hired on as an attendant to Padme. A much needed grounding presence for Ani and a moral compass. A trusted ear for Padme and hopefully a wise grandmother to Luke and Leia Skywalker.
Damn, what could have been.
This goes to the idea that some things are inevitable. The Emperor would have foreseen every possibility, except the Emperor’s own destruction.
He’s not all-knowing and contrary to fan beliefs, could not foresee every single possibility. What Palpatine was good at was adapting. It is true though that he would never have allowed Shmi to have a continued influence in Anakin’s life.
“How come you get to look young and I don’t?”
Because they look like they did when they died
@@JustCallMeEm. If that were true Anakin would look like a spongey wrinklebag.
@@herredward9277No, that's how Darth Vader died. Anakin died looking like that. They are the same person physically but different people emotionally.
@@JustCallMeEm. Gotcha.
@@herredward9277he looked like anakin because he should’ve died when he caught on fire. The suit wasn’t even keeping him alive it was his sheer willpower and force that kept anakin alive.
Anakin‘s fall was tragic, but inevitable
Yep he was broken
Heavy disagree. He had a horrible life, true,but his choices were always his own. He simply fell into a trap and his own actions were the cause. I love Anakin, but he was the man who made all the wrong choices. He was a good man who chose evil for love, bit became evil by doing so. He did not have to chose these actions. He could have trusted the force but did not.
@someonlinedouche6992 if Qui-Gon didn't die then his phone to the dark side would have been a possibility rather than an inevitability
So was your mo*s
@@someonlinedouche6992it’s still inevitable.
After seeing Anakin in his god form in the latest Ahsoka episode this is some good lore
6:06 "the power of friendship." ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Btw, this is an excellent video and it further shows that even under the dark armour of Vader, Anakin was truly one of the most tragic figures in all of fiction, and only wanted to save those he loved, only for others to manipulate and use him for their own ends, basically being a slave for his whole life regardless of who he served.
I'm glad stuff like this shows Anakin was never pure evil, like some idiots say because of his crimes that he regretted deeply, as he never truly was evil. He just needed help and love, not distrust or deception.
Thank you so much for creating two separate playlists of Disney canon and legends cannon because they're two very different interpretations of Star Wars
2 things:
1.) whoa. I did not know the story existed, and just hearing a summary of it hit me deeply. Wow.
2) who here wanted to hear that story of Anakin‘s ghost, somehow subverting the will of the force, and somehow still impacting the universe via his force ghost with possibly greater impact then he had as Darth Vader? That was a scary friggen thought.
Well I doubt that this was against the will of the Force. It was probably just a choice he had, to fade away into the Force or carry on as a ghost to make amends and fight for justice. It’s just like the choice he told Ahsoka to make.
This is why you have over a million subscribers, what a fantastic video!
I’m glad you’re back. I miss your videos. Keep it up 💯💯
Anakin is both hero and villain, and the protagonist in a chain of events that profoundly changed the Galaxy. In the end, everything culminated in fulfilling the role he was meant: The one who would bring balance to the force. By slaying both jedi and sith, and forcing a change in what both cultures had become, the force once again became what it is meant to be and influence the galaxy. By serving the force or not, he remained its agent.
This video is so disingenuous. Everyone knows that they only way to become a True Jedi is to collect the correct amount of studs
Get all the gold bricks
Damn he's right
😂
...and the red bricks.
Say nothing of the ten minikits.
"Carry on the legacy of the Skywalker family" yeah until Disney decided to end the Skywalker bloodline some years later and replace it with Palpatines for no reason whatsoever.
I’ve always seen obi wan as a jesus christ figure since after all anakin had done he forgave anakin for everything that he did
Well the portraits of Obi Wan Kenobi especially in Episode 2 makes him look like Jesus, plus the character arc, and Ewan McGregor did play Jesus too in a movie.
I love Star wars, but I do not have the most critical thinking when it comes to media, I don't when it is the best time for a show movie series or something like that to end, but this book made me feel like Star Wars should have ended with episode six, and no sequels should have been made. Now this just feeling that got. I haven't made up my mind if this is my actual opinion. I do enjoy some canon squel content and alot of the legends content that takes place after the return of the jedi.
One of the greatest acts Anakin did in his final moments was to give hope back to the galaxy by exposing himself to fatal injury in order to save the life of the one who would bring back freedom.
That is why Luke MUST be allowed to life and rise as a character if all the previous films are to have any sort of meaning. Disney's spinoff shows are up for debate, but their "sequels" are simply not canon.
So Anakin passed his final challenge as a Jedi, huh? Here's how I imagine that conversation going....
Obi-Wan: "This was your final challenge as a Jedi, Anakin."
Anakin: "So does this mean I'm a Jedi Master now, Obi-Wan?"
Obi-Wan: "What? No! Don't be ridiculous!"
*Yoda appears* Yoda: "A killer of younglings, a master can never be"
Anakin: "You mean I have to spend eternity with you two and I never get to be a master?! This is outrageous! It's unfair!"
Yoda: "Our punishment as well this is"
Yoda:Killed younglings you have. Choked Padme you did. And killed...
Anakin: Don't say it! Doesn't count!
Yoda:Killed Mace Windus dignity you have done also.
Mace Windu: Yeah man! You made me lose my favorite lightsaber!!!
Anakin: Oh my god I am not worthy.
The thought of Yoda saying that last line kills me ahhahaha
It was fate. Anakin brought Balance to the force by spending equal time in both the Light, and the Dark.
Huh... that makes sense 🤔🤔🤔
Interesting and makess you wonder if the reason Obi-wan died so easily in their final fight was actually part of his plan. Like he knew vader/anakin was going to die and Obi-wan wanted to be there for him to guide him and help him in the afterlife in a way he was never able to when Anakin was still alive.
That would make sense. The very last thing Obi-Wan sees before being stuck down is Leia & Luke reunited for the first time. He smiles, closes his eyes & prepared to become one with the Force.
Maybe at that exact moment he knew that Anakin's children may redeem him & being him back to the Light Side of the Force
@@CharlieUnicorn-gv9yv yeah thats how i always took that smile. Obi looks at luke looks back at vader and smiles - at that moment he sees vaders redemption through Luke - beautiful moment
@@nathanjones7026 from Legends he didn't believe in Vader redemption. They just wanted Luke to end him, however Luke decided otherwise. Obi-wan and Yoda became Force Ghosts to guide Luke even after their demise
Touching most touching indeed
Hey, Lore Master, do you think you could do a video on Iskat Ikaris/13th sister? I finished the novel Rise of the Red Blade and her story is so tragic and it's worthy of a video.
I’ve read the novel the rise and fall of darth vader, and this isn’t quite how it happened, it’s been quite a while since I read it but I remember that Anakin was actually about to go into the nether of the force, but then Obi wan reached out his hand and saved him, and then anakin started to tell him that he’s really sorry and that he hopes obi wan can forgive him, and then obi wan says of course he can because Anakin has redeemed himself and done the prophecy of restoring peace to the galaxy, and then teaches him to be a force ghost, Haha so yeah but I guess there’s many books with theories, but the rise and fall of darth vader is my canon :)
That's from the original expanded universe, this video covers the new "return of the jedi from a certain point of view" book that is apart of the post-Disney star wars canon. I might make a video on the version you're referring to at some point tho!
I'm not crying, you are!
SOOOO much better than the other lame story of Anakin’s ghost speaking with Leia, and both of them getting into a hissy fit, and it never resolving. Wonderful video.
Leia had no need of Anakin as a long lost father. Unlike Luke, Leia had a father and mother - Bail Organa and his wife. And she would never forgive Vader for his part in their deaths.
No, this is lame. This basically makes the SW universe into a place where morality doesn’t matter. Leia being annoyed at him makes perfect sense.
@@timonsolus false. Though it is true she felt that way after meeting Anakins force ghost.
However after finding footage of Anakin at the podrace realizing he was born a slave and empathize with him. She later forgave him.
Both can be true. Anakin can be forgiven because he truly is sorry and wants to repair with the galaxy, AND he may not be forgiven by everyone individually, at least not right away. Including Leia.
Leia has every right to be angry with Anakin tho sooo….
The incorporation into the force is effectively the achieving of Nirvana and the breaking free of Samsara. It’s cool to see those ideas played with in pop culture.
It's quite literally just purgatory or being a ghost
I imagine the conversation, right before they appear as Force ghosts to Luke on Endor, to be this:
Obi-Wan: "Come, let us see my nephew one last time"
Anakin: "Your nephew?"
Obi-Wan: "Yes, your son. We are still brothers, are we not"?
Anakin: 🥺... 🥹
Anakin dying: no
(Becomes force ghost)
Obiwan: seriously, you said no and it worked?
Anakin: yeah, was it not supposed to be that easy
Obiwan: I trained for years to learn how to do this and you just “nope” your way out of death?
😂
Interesting. Obi Wan brings a new perspective to Anakin's obsession with power. Anakin started off seeking power as he felt helpless to save those he cared about, and he felt that with enough power, he could bare the responsibility he felt to save more people in the long run, unable to accept what happens in life things that are not within his control, but also blind to the idea that having friends and other companions who are also able to help others would have allowed him to share the burden he placed on himself. Throwing away everything for the purpose of saving everyone, only to become a self-fulfilling prophecy is a real tragedy, and his tragic flaw was perhaps trying to take on all these problems by himself and being overcome with rage so that he couldn't see these other paths.
Man, Anakin is my favorite fictional character of all time.
This is so beautiful, poetic and peak story-telling. We got so much canon lore that could be shown on screen. How did Luke end up living in miserable condition alone, Leia leading the rebels alone, Han runing away from his responsiblities togheter with Chewy but inside, alone as well.
It's heart breaking what has become of our heroes.
i love that he is getting a redemption arc. his story is so tragic.
RIP General Anikin Skywalker
Prime CO of the 501st Clone Legion
This wasn't all that different from legends, i like it! 😁😄
-Adam
Please cease to exist
This is some very good canon information I could really see what was happening within the story that was being told.
Its very touching this story.
This is awesome, I have to read this.
A part of me will always be sad that Anikan never reunited with Padme like he did with Obi-Wan.
Maybe he did
"Everything is going to be alright and his kids will keep Skywalker legacy alive" - along came the sequels...
Fan fiction....Just bad, crappy fanfiction...
That was absolutely wonderful! That gives perfect context to the end of RotJ, when Obi-Wan, Yoda, & Ani stood there smiling as force ghosts, watching the happiness of Luke, Han. Leia, and the rest of their friends...now that I know what was going thru Ani's mind.
"Even the damned are capable of doing some good."
- Spawn
Always interesting to hear or read stories of Anakinlove this video depicting Anakin/vader story
Very cool video the lore master
Luke did something no jedi ever did. He beat the sith using his words. Never giving up on his father, appealing to his little humanity. Anakin finally woke up and sacrificed himself for the life of his son, the sone he and padme brought into a galaxy. Its my opinion that had qui gon jinn lived, anakin would likely never wouldve fallen to the darkside. Qui gon was very much like a father figure in their short time together. He wouldve properly taught anakin to cope better with his mothers loss and his frustrations with the order.
Hope He seen Padme in the afterlife
And then the Sequel trilogy craps over all this...
I liked the force awakens not gonna lie but the last Jedi had so much lost potential. And Rise Of Skywalker was pretty good but definitely could have been better
@@joryherod8413 Rogue One was so good and Force Awakens was okay. I think the new story doesn’t necessarily ruin the old one because I don’t think the ideas it presents are that bad but it’s the execution that really kills it for me. Honestly, Palpatine “coming back” isn’t nearly as bad in context compared to Kylo Ren’s entire character. When you finish the movies you realize the story could have been so much better if they developed him a bit more, returned him to light and had him trained by Luke way earlier, and maybe had Rey embrace the dark-side to really subvert viewer’s expectations. The relationship between Ren as a padawan and Luke could have been interesting. If Rise of Skywalker had focused on the dynamic between Ren and Rey and had him convince her that the dark would only lead to destruction before her return to the light with regret due to her nature, the story couldve just been so much better. It makes 100x more sense in the context of the original story to do that especially when Ren seems to hold Vader in high regard. Luke battling his anger over Han’s death as Ren learned to follow Anakin’s true path as the next Skywalker would have been so much more interesting.
@@sluminous203☝️this
You like The Force Awakens because it was A New Hope with a new coat of paint.
I hope Anikan could see his mother again. 😢
Bro same
Yeah it kinda yes and no
Even in Legend George does confirm and wrote that the Force flow in everyone and everything
It is life itself
I think that Anakin might be wandering places within the Force and “feel” his mother by his side
Maybe she can’t manifest like he do, or maybe she can be shown for him
But I think we all sure one way or another he know his mother is by his side
@@elliswinchester5858 do you think same with padme
Quite a Tragic and Poetic story... Love it..
🃏
Beautiful story
Anakin: “I killed them. I killed them all Obi wan. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I hate them!!!
Obi-wan: .....
Carry on the legacy of the Skywalker family? Are we to forget that they turned Luke into a coward?
Imagine how much better the sequels would have been if Force Ghost Anakin just showed up to finish off the First Order (Whether it's Palpatine or somebody who makes more sense.) It would've shown that no matter what evil takes power in the galaxy, the chosen one would always be there to protect it in order to make it right for all the evil he caused.
That’s a very good video
in one of the original dialogs for ROTS, Anakin is begging obi wan for help and obi wan declines. In ROTJ Luke begs for help and Anakin appears were obi wan failed. This is the true testament where Anakin did win over Obi Wan.
This is great and all but somehow Palpatine returned!
Lmao
Episodes 7 to 9 the Disney necanon. Lucas wanted to make other arcs: about Anaken, Luke and their descendants. It's a pity that the franchise rights went to the crooked mouse house, which ruined everything. In the comics, Palpatine returned by applying the ancient ritual of the Sikhs. He had three clones that eventually couldn't stand his power. And with the death of the latter, the main villain died completely before reaching true immortality.
Makes me get choked up thinking he grew up as a slave plunder wado and he did countless good things almost undoing it as Vader he pulled a younger kratos for sure but didn’t live long enough to see the good stuff
i will forever see anakin and vader as a split personality deal. anakin held vader back which allowed kenobi to beat him on mustafar. When anakin thought all he had loved and cared for he gave up and let vader take over. When he found out he was lied to and his kids were alive, he began to fight back again. that also fits well with the eye/personality changes in rebels and obiwan series'. my own personal head canon
this needs to be a cinematic!
I wonder if Anakin ever met Padme as a force ghost 👻
Padme can't become a force ghost. She most likely just stopped existing. Only Jedis live on forever through the force.
@@PrincessSerene this makes her death MORE TRAGIC in my opionion
@jackbrennan1125 Yeah, but like in the sense that she is not a tangible being anymore. They would be together, but they wouldn't even know they were together if that makes sense. They would feel each other there, but because you are one with the force along with the rest of the dead, they would probably not even notice. That is kinda tragic to me. It's a different idea of what I believe is an afterlife.
@@PrincessSereneIMHO the one truly great addition to the Star Wars saga that the sequel trilogy made was the spirit of Han Solo visiting Ben Solo. Maybe if they do continue Anakin's journey as a Force Ghost, Padme could visit him the same way
@@PrincessSerenethat's untrue as marka ragnos lived on as a force ghost.
Thank you for the video, i had no clue of this special edition story. I think i'm not the only one who wondered what were Anakin's thoughts after his death or how he became a force ghost so easily, like right away
I like to think of Anakin as the force experiencing itself
Thanks for this
“Nothing is caused solely by one person.” - Obi-Wan
THANK YOU OBI-WAN! I new that I didn’t cause every fight.
That story about the sun dragon reminds of Jet's Kilimanjaro story from Cowboy Bebop. "I hate stories like that. Men only think about the past right before their death, as if they were frantically searching for proof that they were alive."
And then Rian Johnson ruined this Luke...
Oh Shut it he didnt u baby
Facts
What I loved about his appearance in Ahsoka is that he continues to exist both as Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader in death
Rise and Fall of Darth Vader and The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi did it ten times better
Just love the analogy anakin portrays, how someone so dark was once so pure.
This is a beautiful ending yet pisses me off at the same time! Had the Jedi council and Obi-Wan been more sympathetic to him when he was alive and addressed his trauma and respected him more before he turned to the dark side, he might not have turned……………I know, I know, “then we wouldn’t have had a movie” but I’m just saying………as a hypothetical.
The most woke 2024 answer ever.... Jedi therapy. Help us from this madness
@@TheHishugeness apparently caring for others, being kind, being a decent human being, or anything other than being cruel and uncaring asshole is being “woke” to you soulless lost cause right-wingers!
@@TheHishugenesswhat?
... but it turns out Anakin failed and the emperor would return to kill billions including all the skywalkers. The end.
My Theory for Anakin Skywalker's Future:
Anakin died and became a Force Ghost. He would transcend into the World Between Worlds, where he contemplated his sins as Vader and his life as a Jedi Knight. He would use the realm's gateways to study the past, the Mortis Gods, and the Force. He would even commune with the Whills during his training. 25,050 years of Jedi and Sith teachings now lived in Anakin, and he grew to become the new Father of Mortis, the embodiment of the Force. Ahsoka would follow after her mortal death and join Anakin as the Daughter, embodying the Light Side of the Force. The new Son of Mortis would join them. Together, they work to continue bringing balance to the Force in the Known Galaxy and Galaxies far, far away. However, the Force becomes disrupted by the rise of Abeloth, the Mother of Mortis, who turns to become an evil Dark Side entity. Abeloth blames the Force for destroying her and her family (The Father, The Mother, and The Son) and desires vengeance against Anakin, who she believes was responsible for her family's death. The death of the Force is what Abeloth wants, and Anakin must intervene to save the Galaxy from being stripped of all life and hope.
Brilliant!
This would also be another part of the Prophesy. Anakin's journey through the Dark Side and back into the Light, allows him be the savior of the very Force itself
Seeing Anakin's worried or not happy face is so.... Wierd and even uncanny. Like seeing him so sad and or.... Non emotional is just so sad. I wish i could hug him or maybe be his trusted friend. Sheev Palatine sure was the devil of star wars☹️