Whelp here it is. Haha. Even if we have different opinions hope ya still stick around. Haha. And maybe consider supporting the channel! For $1 you can vote on which games I play next or TOP 5 videos I do! www.patreon.com/PelvicGaming
You're just a crying baby (like most of milenials) cry and complain about everything so after watching a couple of your videos and seeing how negative you are about old games you can shove you opinions and your channel up you A!!
As a huge fan of Final Fantasy 8 I disagree with your opinion but I understand your overall point haha. Great writing in this review and the in depth look at the soundtrack was a real highlight in this video. keep up the amazing work!
I just want to say that I’m really happy I found your channel. The video game community, especially the ones that make reviews and other video essays, is a big sausage fest and I wanted to find more women to watch and support. And then I found you! What makes it even better is that you talk about my favorite genre, jrpgs, super often and it makes me so happy I found you. Please keep up the good work I love seeing your videos.
Soooooooo....I never got Doomtrain. If I remember correctly you had to gather a bunch of materials for him and I was over this game and was not about to do some fetch Quest BS.
I respectfully disagree with many of the points you made, but I can still see your point of view and why you feel that way. Thank you for being honest and having the courage to put your opinion out to the world.
Still one of my favorite entries in the series that I’ve beaten several times. The criticism this game has received is definitely warranted which is why I’m glad to hear someone else say this game definitely deserves a remake.
final fantasy 8 is so flawed and weird and youre right about every point but i just cant help but love it haha. probably because it was my first final fantasy game and i kinda enjoyed rinoa and squalls love story
It was the sixth or seventh final fantasy I played and I kind of feel the same. VI, IX, XII and Tactics are still my favorites, buf VIII have a weird place in my heart, where I love it, but I do know it's kind of bad.
About Squall and Rinoa love story, Lady Pelvic released a video about FF8 that kind of made that issue more clear. Jared chose mostly the "Squall responses" when prompd, and it makes him act more as an Asshole towards Rinoa. If you actually choose the nicer answers, their dialogues and romance overall is a lot better, specially because the change in Squall behavior in disc 3 is a lot smoother that way. It still have very cringeworth dialogues, but it's just not as forced as it was in Jared's gameplay. While watching Jared, I asked myself if people mostly making the asshole choices because they are the first one is what made them think they are the "Squall responses" in the first place, because my Squall was not that much of an asshole. (Still kind of was, though)
I really hope that one day FFVIII gets a ground-up remake like VII. If anything, just to overhaul and refine the mechanics in this game that make it so frustrating. When people talk about remaking old FF games, a lot of the time their answers are based off of nostalgia or what their favorite was when they were younger. But for me, VIII is the game that would benefit the most from getting remade.
I recently beat FF8 and I'd rank it as my second favorite FF. I disagree with almost every thing you said but I totally understand why you feel that way,the game is divisive and far from perfect. It's one of the black sheeps of the franchise for a reason
The online games, XIII series, XV and X-2 are the black sheeps. VIII on the PS1 was crazy good at the time. But not all people liked it. Just because its not insanely popular like VII and IX doesnt mean its black sheep ^^
its ballsy to say that a final fantasy game missed the mark on most things but you are right this one def did. Story and characters were way below average and that junction system....... the only thing i disagree with is the music i to this day love this soundtrack lol. Great video as always.
let me tell you something, I love FF8, like dead a** love it. but if you ask me to score it, I'll give it 5, 6 in the good day. that is how you are being real, do not let your love clouding your professionalism. admiring a flaw of something you loved it is called maturity. So! girl you did a great job!
FF8 is my all time favourite, the first in the series I played and fell in love with. To hear you rip it apart, chew it up, spit it out and tread all over it in this scathing review is quite frankly 100% accurate. As a young and troubled teenager I found Squall endearing and relatable, the NPC’s mostly friendly, the sleepy villages quaint and Esther city a promised land. Now however, I wanna slap Squall with a wet fish and demand he get some life experience, need the game to speed up the pace and have someone cast silence on Quistis whenever she attempts to recite a flurtatious tutorial. This review was spot on even though I still love this game. Great stuff!
I was the perfect age to embrace this game in 1999 (16) as I love RPG's and the characters were essentially my similarly aged digital peers. Retrospectively it was a disappointing title with a poor combat system and bizarre story. Meanwhile, I now consider Suikoden 2 the absolute best from the PS1 era.
One of my favorites. Havent played the Remaster yet. Definitely looking forward to this review! Aww you hated it. Well I appreciate your opinion nonetheless. Made some good points. It's definitely a very divisive game of the series.
Fun fact: Final Fantasy 8 has more summons than any other mainline Final Fantasy except for 6. If you count Angelo, Odin, Gilgamesh, Phoenix, Boco, Mini Mog, and Moomba which are not junctionable.
@@emzkoe3904 I thought everything good that is in the remaster was in the Steam version too, without the horrible reskin of the characters' models, like Dissidia's more-emo Squall. But I never heard of drawing faster; I heard of the speed x3
@@VerdeAnticoright. But with the increased speed drawing doesnt take nearly as much time as it does with regular speed. Plus, 3x speed or not, if have a turbo controller and set your cursor to memory... bam! You got your magic with little effort. I think people making more of the drawing system than it is.
@@emzkoe3904 Guys, you dont have to draw except a few times in the game XD Get some AP and refine baby. The only thing they failed was spoonfeeding that to alot of players that dont comprende
Thanks for being honest with us! Anyone who watches your channel knows your are JRPG-obsessed so I don't think there's any need to praise something that isn't there
My biggest complaint with the remaster is the non-analog movement. The original PS1 game had it but it's been broken in every subsequent release, and I was hoping they would fix that in the remaster. It feels so clunky to move around. 100% agree with you about the bummer feeling of feeling inclined to hoard magic. I'm someone who often hoards items in games already, so I found myself just attacking or using the occasional GF in 8, never using magic for that exact fear of penalizing myself. Your suggestion of 'learning' the spell and just having MP would have gone a long way. The junction system's ability to break the game is interesting, but I would personally prefer it to be more traditional and fun, with the ability to break it going away as the compromise. I like FF8 but I agree with pretty much everything you said. Great review and video as always!
I would love to see Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest remade. I've always been a big fan of JRPGs which allow you to feel like your choice of weapons really matter (FFII, Bravely Default) so it would be fun to have that aspect redone. While the game is notorious for having been made with a western audience in mind, under the belief that said audience was not good at JRPGs, I still think the combat system of having a set number of encounters in your pathway of the open world could be expanded upon in a beneficial and fun way. Plus, the pattern of the enemy's artwork changing to show damage was just fun to see how the artists could have fun.
Can we stop for a second to appreciate how nice this comment section is being right now, regardless of personal opinions and experiences with the game? Way to go, folks!
Finally. A fair and proper review of this overhyped game. I think the reason people praised it at release was because of leftover FF7 hype and the small graphical upgrade. I have to admit playing it had me so burned out on RPGs for a few months. Mad respect and keep going.
Thank you so much. Without a doubt FF8 is my favorite game of all time. I'm sorry you didn't love it, but appreciate your honesty and the fact that you gave it a second chance. I recognize this game's big flaws, notably time travel and amnesia, but I think I love it in spite of them. Which GF was your favorite? If I had to remake a ff it would be 5 just to refresh the pixels.
I felt hurt watching this video. Final fantasy 8 is one of my all-time favourite jrpgs. But I get it, it’s one of those games that has a mixed reception. If you had to pick one, which one is better FF8 or FF13?
I agree with you on a lot of things, even though I feel you’re way too harsh on the junction system. But everyone is different and not everything is gonna click with everybody, and that’s fine. I’m with you that it still would’ve been better having the traditional magic system, would’ve made for a very different gameplay experience.
Hmmmm. This sounds like this is going to be a very difficult RPG. Although after watching this video maybe I have to adjust my mindset in playing this and try to avoid most battles so that I don’t level up too fast. I’m not sure how to approach this game when and if I play it. Years ago someone gave me the strategy guide for this game even though I have never played it. Will following that strictly help me in beating it? Still unsure if I want to jump into this one.
9:20 I only manageed to beat the final boss because I had two of these invincible drinks left. What also helps in regards of the entire game is to not level up until disc 3 or so when you have these GFs that give you one permanent attack or defense stat point when leveling up while having them equipped. That way the spell junctions aren't that important anymore except for maybe HP. Would have been nice though, if Quistis had explained that to you at the beginning.
Here's the thing, I haven't played FF8 but I do consider myself a fan of the Final Fantasy series. I've watched a couple of reviews on FF8 and im aware of how divisive the game is. I'm on the fence about buying this game, is 8 worth playing or would I be uninterested in finishing it like 13?
I bought the remaster for ps4 and can’t get past the first ten hrs, even with a guide. The junction system just sucks the fun out for me and I’m constantly confused or frustrated at the process
You had my 'thumbs up' until you got to the games music (joke). Great review of a problematic game... Which final fantasy would I like remade? I'm not sure... but a remaster of vi in the style of octopath would be special!
I love the game but I totally understand why you didn't. You made all your points very clearly and it actually helps me better understand everyone who doesn't like the game. Great review. And thanks for not trying to sugar coat anything. Keep it up! I will say I didn't like it so much my first time (didn't hate it tho) but loved it more with each playthrough after. A lot of the story is told very subtley. For me I want FF1 remade. I think it has the most potential and is the most limited by old hardware.
That was a great point that you made about the dialog choices for Squall. Game designers should really consider more whether giving a player the ability to choose a dialog option will benefit or hinder the story. And to your point about the music, I tend to refer to FF8's soundtrack as the mellow FF music because a lot of it really is rather low key. Overall I agree with most of your review but I do really enjoy the card game which I think I may have said that part on Twitter already but ohwell. Anyway, I want Final Fantasy 2 to get a proper remake. FF2 is one of the worst mainline games but I find it to be very fascinating considering both that it laid so much ground work for the series and because its story could be great if expanded. I actually talked a bit about this in one of my Final Fantasy videos and I was planning to talk about it even more in a video I'm currently working on.
About Squall and his relationship with Rinoa you have to understand that Squall has some separation anxiety issues and trust issues with people, he closes up around others because he's afraid that he'll wake up tomorrow and lose them. On the airship with Rinoa, he explains that he started to close up after his "sis" Ellone left him as she went to hiding due to her powers and Adel being after her from Squall's child POV Ellone just straight left and ghosted him one day and it traumatized him and broke his trust. Then Rinoa "waltzes" in and tries to teach him to just enjoy the moment and being open around people is okay when she falls into coma Squall learns that she was right he was a fool being closed up and anti-social in life means that you miss out on the good things in life and you end up taking them for granted. When Squall and Rinoa dance at the graduation party you can see Squall start to chill out a bit and dance seriously with Rinoa and stop trying to escape from her and go back to his "hiding place" and drink wine alone spot and then when Rinoa walks away from him he has a very heartbroken expression on his face and then he's extra grumpy and "bitchy" towards Quistis who's trying to flirt with him. I respect your views on the game though, but FF8 is baaaasically "young adult with trauma learns to open up with the power of kindness and love " the video game. This game does have some big flaws and you can tell that they rushed it because I think that this game was coming out the same time as the Sega Dreamcast? So you can tell that they rushed it so it could rival that as FFVII was basically a Playstation seller.
"Conjunction junction what's your function." TH-cam that music video. "Drawn to it" I see what you did there. Great review. I liked this game cause it was the only FF game I played when it released. I would love to see a FF7 remaster.
Final fantasy 8 is real magic: the first time I played all the way it back when it was released I absolutely hated it, then I played a second time and I got it, then i loved it. That's ff8 magic!
The junction system was the only thing I liked about this game, surprisingly, because I found it original and fun to mess with. That said, the characters beside Squall and Rinoa had ZERO development and even their importance to the plot was minimal. The story itself was also really meh and that "plot twist" about the orphanage is like so unnecessary, like what changed after that? so they all knew each other as kids, and? Their relationship stayed the same. I'm glad you didn't like it as well haha
This review is god tier. Loved it! And yes, I get FFVIII too haha I think they should remake one of the really old ones...like the original or instance. I want to see that but in the same style as FFVII Remake.
I love that you don’t care for this game so much, yet can evaluate why a remake/reimagining would help this game most. Very level-headed approach and I’m glad you played into the subjectivity of how some of the systems and music just don’t work for you whereas obviously it might work for others. I also love that you don’t give the romance the benefit of the doubt since the game itself doesn’t elicit such events to occur anyway, really remarkable points brought up here and I love that you played into why you don’t like the game, not why others might not enjoy it!
I'd say it is far worse. and that she went too easy on it if anything. It's hard to even see how a remake could save the boring and shallow story and characters.
I must say I loved the passion of how much you disliked most of this game. So down to earth. Personally I enjoyed it. Then again we have different play styles. And I respect that as a fellow gamer. And yet i can completely side with you on a lot of those issues. At least they bounced back with FFIX 🤣
I'd love a FFIX remake, mainly because of nostalgia and I'd love to see some plots expanded such as Fratley's amnesia and Necron's lore. A sequel would be fine too. I'm just glad that they're creating an animated series for it.
Even though I’m disappointed that you didn’t care for FF8, I really enjoyed your review. I loved making my band and traveling into outer space and fighting aliens and having to reach Rinoa before she drifts off into space. I loved the connection between the characters. I also didn’t care for playing Laguna or that card game lol. Why did you have to do Quistis like that?? 😂😂😭😭
Not a giant fan of this one myself. I bought it when it came out and fell off about 20 hours in. I finally finished it about 4 years ago when I played through the whole series again. It was... OK I guess. Better than Beyond the Beyond.
I really appreciate your restraint with reviewing this game. I can tell you really wanted to mercilessly berate the game as much as possible but resisted that urge for the sake of fairness. Most people wouldn't have even bothered to play a game they hate twice over for a review.
Yeah, agree with everything you said. I was playing FF since the first so when I played through 8 it was soul crushing... really hated everything about it.
I like the Sorceress/Seifer story beats. And the music is absolutely 10 out of 10. I bought it on launch day and was pretty damn disappoint, overall. Through the years, I have grown to love it. I even love the stuff I hate about it. That's nostalgia for ya. Playing the Steam version with the Roses and Wine patch sure helps it stand a little taller.
Yes, 100% agree that a remake can fix so much! The Sorceress War, Hyne's story, that certain father/son relationship. I really hope that if they do remake this game, that they fix all of those plot points and then some.
I personally love this game but I do appreciate the cheeky and confrontational tone of this review! And I do think you are right on some of your observations even if I disagree on most of them. Great review as usual!
I can't believe you didn't play Final Fantasy Tactics yet! It is as good, perhaps even better, as Final Fantasy IX. Please, give it a go! You'll love it!
While I disagreed w/ some of your points (mainly the soundtrack), I would love like an FF retrospective from you. You had such a fresh outlook on a game that has been discussed to hell and back. Thanks yt algorithm for recommending your channel! Subbed :)
I guess there are talks of FF9 getting a sequel. I find that intriguing. I really don't know what storyline they could do. Sir Frately and Freya?? :) :)
It took me 3 tries over a decade to finish FF8, and it eventually became one of my favourite JRPGs, but do I want to play it again sometime soon? No. I agree with like everything you said (except about the music 😢) but somehow I still feel a 9/10. I feel like this isn't uncommon for fans of this game, though?
Did you chose the rock music or slow music for the festival? If you chose the slow music for the festival, squal and rinoa have a very touching Romantic scene where she finally forces him to open up a bit and they connect and it’s probably the most important scene that sets them up as lovers. If you chose rock music or a miss-mash of instruments then this convo never happens and their relationship makes lil sense (worse-the game later references that Romantic convo whether they had it or not)
Pelvic Gaming oops I misspoke, it’s the Irish gig that makes them share a moment. It’s the scene that pretty much their whole relationship is based on. This is a copy and paste from a script someone else typed out but it’s what you missed:: Rinoa: "What a night. Great music... Good-looking guy... Not only is he good-looking. He's the sweetest guy...a great listener. Right now, he's seriously thinking about what I said. He's shy and doesn't say anything, but I know. So, what do you think? None of our business?" Squall: "I appreciate your concern... But..." Rinoa: "No 'buts'! Just think about this. This might be the only time we'll all be together. So, as long as we're together, we might as well enjoy each other's company and...just talk, right?" Squall: "...Just for now, huh? Forget it. I don't want friends who won't be around tomorrow." Rinoa: "Gosh, you're such a pessimist. There are no guarantees in the future. That's why TODAY, the time we have now, is important. Squall, we wanna help you, as much as we can, for as long as we can. We all love you. there, I said it. Please don't freak out. We just wanna live, y'know, live through this time with you, together." Squall: "......Together...?" Rinoa: "Keep it in the back of your mind. Call on us whenever you need to. We'll be waiting. Like I said, who knows what's gonna happen in the future...but I have a feeling we'll be together for a while. So, what's on your mind? Do you have any dreams, Squall? Anything you want to do with your life?" Squall: (......I've never thought about it.) "That's something I'd rather not talk about. What about you?" Rinoa: "...I don't know. I guess I'd rather not talk about the future, either. But right now... ...I wanna stay right here...like this." [Fade to black. That night, Squall tosses and turns, dreaming of his youth.] Boy: "...Sis... I'm...all alone. But I'm doing my best... I'll be ok without you, Sis. I'll be able to take care of myself."
I genuinely love Final Fantasy VIII, warts and all, and I totally agree with what you said about it. It's a massively flawed game, but it's one I'm fond of. Aside from things that you mentioned, FFVIII has a world that I'm fascinated by. The side quests all lend to this world being packed with weird occult happenings, many of which can be explored in side quests. That alone has made my appreciation for the game grow over the past twenty years since I first tried it out. But yeah, it's a mess. It's just a mess that I love.
I said it once, and ill say it again... Go talk to a wall. ;)) Great review as always, and i get that FF8 is not everyones cup of tea. I like it alot cuz of the junction system is so diverse. And the music in the game is probably the best in the whole series imo. Keep up the good work Pelvic :)
I remember feeling very interested in exploiting the junction system back in the day-first time ever I felt that way actually. The story is meh for sure, and the pacing was sluggish enough for me to focus on that other aspect of the game. A subpar story with pretty striking graphics, for the time.
Very entertaining and a quite honest review. I especially loved the comparison to porn music at 13:10. I couldn't help but think the same thing. For all the reasons you listed and more, this is also one of my least favorite games in the series. Thanks for the laughs!
I love your brutal honesty, huge respect. FF8 was my second jrpg and i didnt struggle at all the way you did and i was 13 lol and had been playing games for 2 years. Didnt play games before that really. I mean its a ps1 game from 1999, i played it on release and there was no other game like it. But if you dont enjoy reading dialog, the amazing world building and characters, the story, the card game and figuring out how to maximize your power (forget about drawing except GF's), then its probably not a game for you. But wow its one of the best jrpg's in history and the junction system is one of the best systems ever. Only thing i dislike is how easy you can cheese the system with cards and mods. Super fun but super ez cheesing lol You never have to draw really, but you learn abilities with GF's and learn refining items and magic. Since you played twice and didnt enjoy yourself, im pretty sure you only played remaster, speed boosted your way through and never got enough AP for GF's. They are the source, then just press auto and the game junctions for you. Super simple really but it is outdated.
I just finished the remastered a few days ago and I agree with a number of points you said. I loved this game but man story was a mess it’s like kazushige nojima had bunch of interesting ideas but didnt know how mesh it together. Still this game had a rushed development so the blame can’t go entirely to nojima. Hopefully ff8 will get a remake in future after ff7 I love to see them have second go at creating this game fixing the flaws found in gameplay, story and main characters aside from rinoa and squall.
So... When are you going to review the smorgasbord for the sense that is Final Fantasy X-2? That cutting edge work of literary genius! That epic tale of the most grand adventure! Hands down the BEST Final Fantasy game to grace is with it's grace!
FF 8 have a interesting lore, but the game itself don't explain it to you, so it kinda fails in that too. I would love a full remake of Final Fantasy 2 with a more polished battle system. I played on the PSP, and after knowing what I was doing it was fun.
FF8 is my favorite FF ever (perhaps because it was my first one), but I totally get your points. I also don't think it aged very well to be honest. I feel like Final Fantasies in general have a problem that they start slowly and take some time to get good, but FF8 takes this to an extreme. I love this game, but I always felt it only got fun after you get enough GFs to abuse the refining system properly so you can get (almost) all magic you need from items, which unfortunaly only happens in disc 2.
I've played FF8 to completion about 3 times, and I hadn't been able to put my finger on why the romance sometimes worked and sometimes didn't until you explained it. Making it the player's choice was a bad call for this kind of game. I also agree that having a hoarder mentality can be stressful when managing the Junction system. Last time I played FF8 y limited myself by only equiping certain GFs to certain characters for the whole game, and only drawing Magic when I felt I wanted to, to cast inmediately or to stock a little, and the game wasn't even that hard that way. I feel like FF8 allows for a lot of customization, but it's too overwhelming for kids and adults tend to go for the optimization mentality. I agree with a lot of your points, specially about the plot twist, but FF8 will always be one of my nostalgic favourites :) Good Video!
THANK YOU for making honest reviews!!! People sometimes talk as if early Final Fantasy games can do no wrong, but sometimes a bad game is a bad game no matter the franchise.
I can’t help but respect them for trying something radical with the battle system in this game. It would be so easy, coming off of one of the largest and most successful JRPGs ever, to just do the exact same thing. But instead they did the Draw/Junction mechanics which, though far from perfect, were perfectly tolerable IMO and make the game very unique. In that sense it’s like Zelda 2 or Mario 2, looking at a huge success and deciding to take huge risks anyway, and I really respect it even if it’s a game I’m not rushing to replay
XD My little brothers would hate this review so much. They LOVE this game so much. I, myself, couldn't play it, but I enjoyed watching others do it. I dunno, I do agree there is room for improvement, but it was just something I found myself enjoying regardless. "Man With the Machine Gun" was a good track, but I tend to find myself gravitating toward "Premonition" (Sorceress battle theme) sometimes, too. Out of all the characters I wish they could've expanded on, Ultimecia most definitely. We knew nothing about her other than she wanted to screw time up, simply because she could. The creators outright denied she's a future Rinoa that lost her knight (Squall), and that's why she's doing this. Either way, I enjoyed your review. It was honest, to the point, and no sugar coating. Out of all the Final Fantasy games they could remake to make it better...? Hmm.... that's a tough one. I could say 12, get rid of that god awful License system, and make it feel less like an MMO. That's just me.
I'm wanting a Final Fantasy V remake similar to the FFIV remake on DS. FFV is my favorite game in the series and I'd love to see the charming characters and fun story properly remade. And Faris is the best FF character.
Oh. the salt! 🧂🧂🧂 It is TASTY! This is probably a really weird take but I'd love to see a remake of VI BUT! In the style of the PS1 era FFs, so like pre-rendered backgrounds, turn-based combat (so basically just keep the old combat but ~IN 3D~!), cute character models, and maybe some drop-dead gorgeous CG cutscenes every now and then
Just stumbled upon your channel and, so far, I really enjoy it. I saw the chrono trigger and final fantasy IV review and now the final fantasy VIII, but what's with Final Fantasy VII? Easily one of the best JRPGs of all time also I'm missing Knights of the old Republic. Maybe I just found it in your video list, or probably a ton of other people already suggested these two games to you. Also, they aren't really pixel art, except for the backgrounds in FFVII. Well, thanks for your reviews, I like your style, and I'm curious about your take on final fantasy VII.
Hello and thank you. Ehhh, I don't really care to cover games that already have so much coverage. Unless it's a game I've been anticipating myself like Kingdom hearts 3, or Persona 5 back in the day. Everyone and their mother has covered FF7 not to mention I have several other games that I own that I want to get too. I appreciate the comment and support!
@@PelvicGaming yeah, true. Just noticed the absence, between all the other great games. But good to know, so there is the possibility to discover some lesser-mentioned titles here. Thanks and have a nice day.
I always felt like I was the only one that wasn't into FF8. It's good to know I'm not alone in that feeling. Excellent video with well thought out points. I'm gonna subscribe now.
I played 8 in 1999 and fell in love with it. I was 15 and a moody teen who identified with squall. And his growth made me want to grow as well. As an adult, this game is flawed as hell. Yet when the remaster came out, I got every trophy and 100% completed it, again. I think my nostalgia played a huge part in my love of this experiment of a AAA game. You points are all not only valid but correct. I will only disagree about the music as I adore it (but again, nostalgia) this was a fantastic review and I am a sub for life!
VIII is either my fourth or fifth favorite game in the series depending on my mood with II in the other slot (And I mean II not IV) The one thing I truly hate isb that enemies level up with you and I hate that in every game that does it. I put in the effort to level up my characters while the AI did nothing so why should the AI's characters get stronger along with mine?
I was a fan of this game like 15 years ago when I was a teenager but now as a 27 year old adult? I really can't stand this game and especially how the game operates on its mechanics. The soundtrack is still kickass tho.
Whelp here it is. Haha. Even if we have different opinions hope ya still stick around. Haha. And maybe consider supporting the channel! For $1 you can vote on which games I play next or TOP 5 videos I do! www.patreon.com/PelvicGaming
This is about right but it is still a pretty cool game
Good shit, girl. -Taylor M
Do final fantasy XIII next.😈
Do final fantasy 9 on the switch or ps4 next.
You're just a crying baby (like most of milenials) cry and complain about everything so after watching a couple of your videos and seeing how negative you are about old games you can shove you opinions and your channel up you A!!
You get my respect. I don’t know how many ppl have it in them to play a 40 hour RPG for a 2nd time after they hated the first play through.
My pride wouldn't let me. I beat games, I don't let games beat me. Haha. Thanks for watching!
I'm still no fan of FF8. And Square had better remake FF6 LONG before they consider one for 8.
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@John The first time I saw Final Fantasy VIII, did not like it. T'was a far departure from Final Fantasy VII.
@@hubertcumberdale2651 because only your opinion matters, right?;)
As a huge fan of Final Fantasy 8 I disagree with your opinion but I understand your overall point haha. Great writing in this review and the in depth look at the soundtrack was a real highlight in this video.
keep up the amazing work!
DreamcastGuy! I was literally just watching your 20th anniversary FF8 video.
@@jakeausten9673 So?
I just want to say that I’m really happy I found your channel. The video game community, especially the ones that make reviews and other video essays, is a big sausage fest and I wanted to find more women to watch and support. And then I found you! What makes it even better is that you talk about my favorite genre, jrpgs, super often and it makes me so happy I found you. Please keep up the good work I love seeing your videos.
But what about Doomtrain?
Soooooooo....I never got Doomtrain.
If I remember correctly you had to gather a bunch of materials for him and I was over this game and was not about to do some fetch Quest BS.
I always give doomtrain to Selphie, because of her line before the Timber mission "Train, train, take us away. Into the future we will go" =)
I respectfully disagree with many of the points you made, but I can still see your point of view and why you feel that way.
Thank you for being honest and having the courage to put your opinion out to the world.
Still one of my favorite entries in the series that I’ve beaten several times. The criticism this game has received is definitely warranted which is why I’m glad to hear someone else say this game definitely deserves a remake.
final fantasy 8 is so flawed and weird and youre right about every point but i just cant help but love it haha. probably because it was my first final fantasy game and i kinda enjoyed rinoa and squalls love story
It was the sixth or seventh final fantasy I played and I kind of feel the same. VI, IX, XII and Tactics are still my favorites, buf VIII have a weird place in my heart, where I love it, but I do know it's kind of bad.
Your first FF is always be the best FF for you. That rule works on me too. In this case, same with you. I love FF8 more than any other FF XD
About Squall and Rinoa love story, Lady Pelvic released a video about FF8 that kind of made that issue more clear.
Jared chose mostly the "Squall responses" when prompd, and it makes him act more as an Asshole towards Rinoa. If you actually choose the nicer answers, their dialogues and romance overall is a lot better, specially because the change in Squall behavior in disc 3 is a lot smoother that way. It still have very cringeworth dialogues, but it's just not as forced as it was in Jared's gameplay.
While watching Jared, I asked myself if people mostly making the asshole choices because they are the first one is what made them think they are the "Squall responses" in the first place, because my Squall was not that much of an asshole. (Still kind of was, though)
Ali Wardhana ff8 is not my fav haha thats probably 9 but i do think if it hasnt been my first i would NOT like it
I really hope that one day FFVIII gets a ground-up remake like VII. If anything, just to overhaul and refine the mechanics in this game that make it so frustrating. When people talk about remaking old FF games, a lot of the time their answers are based off of nostalgia or what their favorite was when they were younger. But for me, VIII is the game that would benefit the most from getting remade.
The overworld theme is my favorite tho.. but to each their own. Honestly massive respect to playing through twice. Takes dedication for a review.
I recently beat FF8 and I'd rank it as my second favorite FF. I disagree with almost every thing you said but I totally understand why you feel that way,the game is divisive and far from perfect. It's one of the black sheeps of the franchise for a reason
The online games, XIII series, XV and X-2 are the black sheeps.
VIII on the PS1 was crazy good at the time. But not all people liked it. Just because its not insanely popular like VII and IX doesnt mean its black sheep ^^
@@icessoup what does it mean to be a black sheep game then
What was your favourite? FF7 or FF Tactics?
its ballsy to say that a final fantasy game missed the mark on most things but you are right this one def did. Story and characters were way below average and that junction system....... the only thing i disagree with is the music i to this day love this soundtrack lol. Great video as always.
let me tell you something, I love FF8, like dead a** love it. but if you ask me to score it, I'll give it 5, 6 in the good day. that is how you are being real, do not let your love clouding your professionalism. admiring a flaw of something you loved it is called maturity. So! girl you did a great job!
This was the first final Fantasy I beat when I was a kid.
FF8 is my all time favourite, the first in the series I played and fell in love with. To hear you rip it apart, chew it up, spit it out and tread all over it in this scathing review is quite frankly 100% accurate. As a young and troubled teenager I found Squall endearing and relatable, the NPC’s mostly friendly, the sleepy villages quaint and Esther city a promised land. Now however, I wanna slap Squall with a wet fish and demand he get some life experience, need the game to speed up the pace and have someone cast silence on Quistis whenever she attempts to recite a flurtatious tutorial. This review was spot on even though I still love this game. Great stuff!
"That's what made the game so "DRAW"n out."
That's a 'Like' right there.
I was the perfect age to embrace this game in 1999 (16) as I love RPG's and the characters were essentially my similarly aged digital peers. Retrospectively it was a disappointing title with a poor combat system and bizarre story. Meanwhile, I now consider Suikoden 2 the absolute best from the PS1 era.
One of my favorites. Havent played the Remaster yet. Definitely looking forward to this review!
Aww you hated it. Well I appreciate your opinion nonetheless. Made some good points. It's definitely a very divisive game of the series.
The remaster is much better. It makes drawing magic faster. People hate that feature but idk...it's no more tedious than grinding for levels...
Fun fact: Final Fantasy 8 has more summons than any other mainline Final Fantasy except for 6. If you count Angelo, Odin, Gilgamesh, Phoenix, Boco, Mini Mog, and Moomba which are not junctionable.
@@emzkoe3904 I thought everything good that is in the remaster was in the Steam version too, without the horrible reskin of the characters' models, like Dissidia's more-emo Squall. But I never heard of drawing faster; I heard of the speed x3
@@VerdeAnticoright. But with the increased speed drawing doesnt take nearly as much time as it does with regular speed. Plus, 3x speed or not, if have a turbo controller and set your cursor to memory... bam! You got your magic with little effort. I think people making more of the drawing system than it is.
@@emzkoe3904 Guys, you dont have to draw except a few times in the game XD Get some AP and refine baby. The only thing they failed was spoonfeeding that to alot of players that dont comprende
I skipped 7 and 8. They just didn't look or feel like real final fantasy. Thank you for confirming my suspicions on this game.
How dare you 😂
Thanks for being honest with us! Anyone who watches your channel knows your are JRPG-obsessed so I don't think there's any need to praise something that isn't there
My biggest complaint with the remaster is the non-analog movement. The original PS1 game had it but it's been broken in every subsequent release, and I was hoping they would fix that in the remaster. It feels so clunky to move around.
100% agree with you about the bummer feeling of feeling inclined to hoard magic. I'm someone who often hoards items in games already, so I found myself just attacking or using the occasional GF in 8, never using magic for that exact fear of penalizing myself.
Your suggestion of 'learning' the spell and just having MP would have gone a long way. The junction system's ability to break the game is interesting, but I would personally prefer it to be more traditional and fun, with the ability to break it going away as the compromise.
I like FF8 but I agree with pretty much everything you said. Great review and video as always!
Are the backgrounds blurry on the switch version or am I just remembering the PS1 version poorly?
I would love to see Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest remade. I've always been a big fan of JRPGs which allow you to feel like your choice of weapons really matter (FFII, Bravely Default) so it would be fun to have that aspect redone. While the game is notorious for having been made with a western audience in mind, under the belief that said audience was not good at JRPGs, I still think the combat system of having a set number of encounters in your pathway of the open world could be expanded upon in a beneficial and fun way. Plus, the pattern of the enemy's artwork changing to show damage was just fun to see how the artists could have fun.
Plus the soundtracks is dope af.
Can we stop for a second to appreciate how nice this comment section is being right now, regardless of personal opinions and experiences with the game? Way to go, folks!
Finally. A fair and proper review of this overhyped game. I think the reason people praised it at release was because of leftover FF7 hype and the small graphical upgrade. I have to admit playing it had me so burned out on RPGs for a few months. Mad respect and keep going.
Thank you so much. Without a doubt FF8 is my favorite game of all time. I'm sorry you didn't love it, but appreciate your honesty and the fact that you gave it a second chance. I recognize this game's big flaws, notably time travel and amnesia, but I think I love it in spite of them.
Which GF was your favorite?
If I had to remake a ff it would be 5 just to refresh the pixels.
I felt hurt watching this video. Final fantasy 8 is one of my all-time favourite jrpgs. But I get it, it’s one of those games that has a mixed reception. If you had to pick one, which one is better FF8 or FF13?
😆😆 I absolutely adored this game when it came out, but I totally get the criticism. The pun was so cute 😂
I'm on the final boss but I can't beat it, I'm fighting lion thing before the actual final boss, I need help, is there a way to cheat?
what is your problem with him ?
I agree with you on a lot of things, even though I feel you’re way too harsh on the junction system. But everyone is different and not everything is gonna click with everybody, and that’s fine. I’m with you that it still would’ve been better having the traditional magic system, would’ve made for a very different gameplay experience.
the best part of ff8 is how soulfull it is, the space and so many diverse things it got
Im playing this game and i grinded a bunch of battles thinking i was getting stronger at the game. Well that's frustrating now.
Hmmmm. This sounds like this is going to be a very difficult RPG. Although after watching this video maybe I have to adjust my mindset in playing this and try to avoid most battles so that I don’t level up too fast. I’m not sure how to approach this game when and if I play it. Years ago someone gave me the strategy guide for this game even though I have never played it. Will following that strictly help me in beating it? Still unsure if I want to jump into this one.
9:20 I only manageed to beat the final boss because I had two of these invincible drinks left. What also helps in regards of the entire game is to not level up until disc 3 or so when you have these GFs that give you one permanent attack or defense stat point when leveling up while having them equipped. That way the spell junctions aren't that important anymore except for maybe HP. Would have been nice though, if Quistis had explained that to you at the beginning.
Here's the thing, I haven't played FF8 but I do consider myself a fan of the Final Fantasy series. I've watched a couple of reviews on FF8 and im aware of how divisive the game is. I'm on the fence about buying this game, is 8 worth playing or would I be uninterested in finishing it like 13?
I bought the remaster for ps4 and can’t get past the first ten hrs, even with a guide. The junction system just sucks the fun out for me and I’m constantly confused or frustrated at the process
You had my 'thumbs up' until you got to the games music (joke). Great review of a problematic game... Which final fantasy would I like remade? I'm not sure... but a remaster of vi in the style of octopath would be special!
I remember attempting this game a couple years ago and it got to the point where I had to summon my aeons to kill random encounters...
I love the game but I totally understand why you didn't. You made all your points very clearly and it actually helps me better understand everyone who doesn't like the game. Great review. And thanks for not trying to sugar coat anything. Keep it up!
I will say I didn't like it so much my first time (didn't hate it tho) but loved it more with each playthrough after. A lot of the story is told very subtley.
For me I want FF1 remade. I think it has the most potential and is the most limited by old hardware.
Well said.
That was a great point that you made about the dialog choices for Squall. Game designers should really consider more whether giving a player the ability to choose a dialog option will benefit or hinder the story. And to your point about the music, I tend to refer to FF8's soundtrack as the mellow FF music because a lot of it really is rather low key. Overall I agree with most of your review but I do really enjoy the card game which I think I may have said that part on Twitter already but ohwell. Anyway, I want Final Fantasy 2 to get a proper remake. FF2 is one of the worst mainline games but I find it to be very fascinating considering both that it laid so much ground work for the series and because its story could be great if expanded. I actually talked a bit about this in one of my Final Fantasy videos and I was planning to talk about it even more in a video I'm currently working on.
I love your honest opinions, this is actully my favorite ff tho :)
About Squall and his relationship with Rinoa you have to understand that Squall has some separation anxiety issues and trust issues with people, he closes up around others because he's afraid that he'll wake up tomorrow and lose them. On the airship with Rinoa, he explains that he started to close up after his "sis" Ellone left him as she went to hiding due to her powers and Adel being after her from Squall's child POV Ellone just straight left and ghosted him one day and it traumatized him and broke his trust. Then Rinoa "waltzes" in and tries to teach him to just enjoy the moment and being open around people is okay when she falls into coma Squall learns that she was right he was a fool being closed up and anti-social in life means that you miss out on the good things in life and you end up taking them for granted.
When Squall and Rinoa dance at the graduation party you can see Squall start to chill out a bit and dance seriously with Rinoa and stop trying to escape from her and go back to his "hiding place" and drink wine alone spot and then when Rinoa walks away from him he has a very heartbroken expression on his face and then he's extra grumpy and "bitchy" towards Quistis who's trying to flirt with him.
I respect your views on the game though, but FF8 is baaaasically "young adult with trauma learns to open up with the power of kindness and love " the video game. This game does have some big flaws and you can tell that they rushed it because I think that this game was coming out the same time as the Sega Dreamcast? So you can tell that they rushed it so it could rival that as FFVII was basically a Playstation seller.
I'm kinda bummed you hated it that much, it's my favorite after X. But I haven't played it in a long time, so maybe it hasn't aged that well.
"Conjunction junction what's your function." TH-cam that music video. "Drawn to it" I see what you did there. Great review. I liked this game cause it was the only FF game I played when it released. I would love to see a FF7 remaster.
Final fantasy 8 is real magic: the first time I played all the way it back when it was released I absolutely hated it, then I played a second time and I got it, then i loved it. That's ff8 magic!
Yup yup!!
I felt the same way. The whole set up is strategy. Not like you have to fight constantly to gain exp. You mostly have to rely on GFs.
The junction system was the only thing I liked about this game, surprisingly, because I found it original and fun to mess with. That said, the characters beside Squall and Rinoa had ZERO development and even their importance to the plot was minimal. The story itself was also really meh and that "plot twist" about the orphanage is like so unnecessary, like what changed after that? so they all knew each other as kids, and? Their relationship stayed the same. I'm glad you didn't like it as well haha
This review is god tier. Loved it! And yes, I get FFVIII too haha
I think they should remake one of the really old ones...like the original or instance. I want to see that but in the same style as FFVII Remake.
Yo! This is my JAM! Totally giving into my nostalgia.... but that aside, BEST GAME EVER!!!!!!
Will you ever review FF7 or FF7r?? I've been curious to hear your opinion on the games that got me on the FF fandom
FF8 was actually my introduction to Final Fantasy. I played the demo of the game over and over again off the Pizza Hut demo disc
also.. its nice to hear a level headed review of a game and not just someone gushing over the game like its shear perfection! good work.
I love that you don’t care for this game so much, yet can evaluate why a remake/reimagining would help this game most. Very level-headed approach and I’m glad you played into the subjectivity of how some of the systems and music just don’t work for you whereas obviously it might work for others. I also love that you don’t give the romance the benefit of the doubt since the game itself doesn’t elicit such events to occur anyway, really remarkable points brought up here and I love that you played into why you don’t like the game, not why others might not enjoy it!
FFVIII is a good game. It's not as bad as you make it out to be.
It was for me and that's why this entire review is my opinion. :)
Edit: Thanks for watching!
I'd say it is far worse. and that she went too easy on it if anything. It's hard to even see how a remake could save the boring and shallow story and characters.
I must say I loved the passion of how much you disliked most of this game. So down to earth. Personally I enjoyed it. Then again we have different play styles. And I respect that as a fellow gamer. And yet i can completely side with you on a lot of those issues. At least they bounced back with FFIX 🤣
I really want a remake of FFIX, I love him so much, and the story is so great...
Idk. 9 is such an amazing and charming game. If the "FF7R" final fantasy 9, I will be sad.
@@emzkoe3904 to be a real remake, they need to maintain the original aesthetic
I'd love a FFIX remake, mainly because of nostalgia and I'd love to see some plots expanded such as Fratley's amnesia and Necron's lore. A sequel would be fine too. I'm just glad that they're creating an animated series for it.
Even though I’m disappointed that you didn’t care for FF8, I really enjoyed your review. I loved making my band and traveling into outer space and fighting aliens and having to reach Rinoa before she drifts off into space. I loved the connection between the characters. I also didn’t care for playing Laguna or that card game lol. Why did you have to do Quistis like that?? 😂😂😭😭
A game where Squall junctions his GF so he can spend time with his gf
Not a giant fan of this one myself. I bought it when it came out and fell off about 20 hours in. I finally finished it about 4 years ago when I played through the whole series again. It was... OK I guess. Better than Beyond the Beyond.
Being better than Beyond the Beyond isn't saying much. lol
Its my favorite FF game ever 😍
Rich Mckee i guess you are looking for a FFVII-2 😂 not happening 😛
I like the nostalgic memories I have of FF8. But. Every time I replay it I get so annoyed I quit half way through. Every time. So, agreed on this.
you deserve an award for getting through this game twice and making a review about it. I love the FF series but honestly, this game is not it.
smh
I really appreciate your restraint with reviewing this game. I can tell you really wanted to mercilessly berate the game as much as possible but resisted that urge for the sake of fairness. Most people wouldn't have even bothered to play a game they hate twice over for a review.
Yeah, agree with everything you said. I was playing FF since the first so when I played through 8 it was soul crushing... really hated everything about it.
The worst part is how it was censored in the remaster.
I like the Sorceress/Seifer story beats. And the music is absolutely 10 out of 10. I bought it on launch day and was pretty damn disappoint, overall. Through the years, I have grown to love it. I even love the stuff I hate about it. That's nostalgia for ya. Playing the Steam version with the Roses and Wine patch sure helps it stand a little taller.
Yes, 100% agree that a remake can fix so much! The Sorceress War, Hyne's story, that certain father/son relationship. I really hope that if they do remake this game, that they fix all of those plot points and then some.
I would like that they flesh out more the cast too.
I personally love this game but I do appreciate the cheeky and confrontational tone of this review! And I do think you are right on some of your observations even if I disagree on most of them. Great review as usual!
Yeah I luv she says how she feels but fuck yeah I disliked this video hehe
I can't believe you didn't play Final Fantasy Tactics yet! It is as good, perhaps even better, as Final Fantasy IX. Please, give it a go! You'll love it!
While I disagreed w/ some of your points (mainly the soundtrack), I would love like an FF retrospective from you. You had such a fresh outlook on a game that has been discussed to hell and back.
Thanks yt algorithm for recommending your channel! Subbed :)
I love how she just hates the game. I love the game and it was great to see such a different opinion.
I do legitimately love this game. But I still loved your review :) thank you
Squall was at his best in the Kingdom Hearts games and I will die on that hill. Great video as always btw
Dissida squall
I guess there are talks of FF9 getting a sequel. I find that intriguing. I really don't know what storyline they could do. Sir Frately and Freya?? :) :)
It took me 3 tries over a decade to finish FF8, and it eventually became one of my favourite JRPGs, but do I want to play it again sometime soon? No.
I agree with like everything you said (except about the music 😢) but somehow I still feel a 9/10. I feel like this isn't uncommon for fans of this game, though?
it isn't no
!!! Is that .Hack//Sign i see in the background?!?!?
Did you chose the rock music or slow music for the festival? If you chose the slow music for the festival, squal and rinoa have a very touching Romantic scene where she finally forces him to open up a bit and they connect and it’s probably the most important scene that sets them up as lovers. If you chose rock music or a miss-mash of instruments then this convo never happens and their relationship makes lil sense (worse-the game later references that Romantic convo whether they had it or not)
Slow
Pelvic Gaming oops I misspoke, it’s the Irish gig that makes them share a moment. It’s the scene that pretty much their whole relationship is based on. This is a copy and paste from a script someone else typed out but it’s what you missed::
Rinoa: "What a night. Great music... Good-looking guy... Not only is he
good-looking. He's the sweetest guy...a great listener. Right now, he's
seriously thinking about what I said. He's shy and doesn't say anything,
but I know. So, what do you think? None of our business?"
Squall: "I appreciate your concern... But..."
Rinoa: "No 'buts'! Just think about this. This might be the only time we'll all
be together. So, as long as we're together, we might as well enjoy each
other's company and...just talk, right?"
Squall: "...Just for now, huh? Forget it. I don't want friends who won't be
around tomorrow."
Rinoa: "Gosh, you're such a pessimist. There are no guarantees in the future.
That's why TODAY, the time we have now, is important. Squall, we wanna
help you, as much as we can, for as long as we can. We all love you.
there, I said it. Please don't freak out. We just wanna live, y'know,
live through this time with you, together."
Squall: "......Together...?"
Rinoa: "Keep it in the back of your mind. Call on us whenever you need to.
We'll be waiting. Like I said, who knows what's gonna happen in the
future...but I have a feeling we'll be together for a while. So, what's
on your mind? Do you have any dreams, Squall? Anything you want to do
with your life?"
Squall: (......I've never thought about it.) "That's something I'd rather not
talk about. What about you?"
Rinoa: "...I don't know. I guess I'd rather not talk about the future, either.
But right now... ...I wanna stay right here...like this."
[Fade to black. That night, Squall tosses and turns, dreaming of his youth.]
Boy: "...Sis... I'm...all alone. But I'm doing my best... I'll be ok without
you, Sis. I'll be able to take care of myself."
Found your channel by accident today and I’m so glad I did! You gained a new fan :)
I genuinely love Final Fantasy VIII, warts and all, and I totally agree with what you said about it. It's a massively flawed game, but it's one I'm fond of. Aside from things that you mentioned, FFVIII has a world that I'm fascinated by. The side quests all lend to this world being packed with weird occult happenings, many of which can be explored in side quests. That alone has made my appreciation for the game grow over the past twenty years since I first tried it out.
But yeah, it's a mess. It's just a mess that I love.
I said it once, and ill say it again...
Go talk to a wall.
;))
Great review as always, and i get that FF8 is not everyones cup of tea. I like it alot cuz of the junction system is so diverse. And the music in the game is probably the best in the whole series imo. Keep up the good work Pelvic :)
You are really good at video game reviews. Definitely worthy of massive views. This is a very detailed review people!
Another top-notched review by none other than the best YT videogame reviewer of them all. Thanks for sharing!
I remember feeling very interested in exploiting the junction system back in the day-first time ever I felt that way actually. The story is meh for sure, and the pacing was sluggish enough for me to focus on that other aspect of the game. A subpar story with pretty striking graphics, for the time.
Very entertaining and a quite honest review. I especially loved the comparison to porn music at 13:10. I couldn't help but think the same thing. For all the reasons you listed and more, this is also one of my least favorite games in the series. Thanks for the laughs!
I love your brutal honesty, huge respect. FF8 was my second jrpg and i didnt struggle at all the way you did and i was 13 lol and had been playing games for 2 years. Didnt play games before that really.
I mean its a ps1 game from 1999, i played it on release and there was no other game like it. But if you dont enjoy reading dialog, the amazing world building and characters, the story, the card game and figuring out how to maximize your power (forget about drawing except GF's), then its probably not a game for you.
But wow its one of the best jrpg's in history and the junction system is one of the best systems ever. Only thing i dislike is how easy you can cheese the system with cards and mods. Super fun but super ez cheesing lol
You never have to draw really, but you learn abilities with GF's and learn refining items and magic. Since you played twice and didnt enjoy yourself, im pretty sure you only played remaster, speed boosted your way through and never got enough AP for GF's. They are the source, then just press auto and the game junctions for you. Super simple really but it is outdated.
I just finished the remastered a few days ago and I agree with a number of points you said. I loved this game but man story was a mess it’s like kazushige nojima had bunch of interesting ideas but didnt know how mesh it together. Still this game had a rushed development so the blame can’t go entirely to nojima. Hopefully ff8 will get a remake in future after ff7 I love to see them have second go at creating this game fixing the flaws found in gameplay, story and main characters aside from rinoa and squall.
So... When are you going to review the smorgasbord for the sense that is Final Fantasy X-2? That cutting edge work of literary genius! That epic tale of the most grand adventure! Hands down the BEST Final Fantasy game to grace is with it's grace!
Lol no date.
FF 8 have a interesting lore, but the game itself don't explain it to you, so it kinda fails in that too. I would love a full remake of Final Fantasy 2 with a more polished battle system. I played on the PSP, and after knowing what I was doing it was fun.
FF8 is my favorite FF ever (perhaps because it was my first one), but I totally get your points. I also don't think it aged very well to be honest. I feel like Final Fantasies in general have a problem that they start slowly and take some time to get good, but FF8 takes this to an extreme. I love this game, but I always felt it only got fun after you get enough GFs to abuse the refining system properly so you can get (almost) all magic you need from items, which unfortunaly only happens in disc 2.
I've played FF8 to completion about 3 times, and I hadn't been able to put my finger on why the romance sometimes worked and sometimes didn't until you explained it. Making it the player's choice was a bad call for this kind of game.
I also agree that having a hoarder mentality can be stressful when managing the Junction system. Last time I played FF8 y limited myself by only equiping certain GFs to certain characters for the whole game, and only drawing Magic when I felt I wanted to, to cast inmediately or to stock a little, and the game wasn't even that hard that way. I feel like FF8 allows for a lot of customization, but it's too overwhelming for kids and adults tend to go for the optimization mentality.
I agree with a lot of your points, specially about the plot twist, but FF8 will always be one of my nostalgic favourites :)
Good Video!
THANK YOU for making honest reviews!!! People sometimes talk as if early Final Fantasy games can do no wrong, but sometimes a bad game is a bad game no matter the franchise.
Thank you for watching and enjoying my commentary! ^^;
I can’t help but respect them for trying something radical with the battle system in this game. It would be so easy, coming off of one of the largest and most successful JRPGs ever, to just do the exact same thing. But instead they did the Draw/Junction mechanics which, though far from perfect, were perfectly tolerable IMO and make the game very unique.
In that sense it’s like Zelda 2 or Mario 2, looking at a huge success and deciding to take huge risks anyway, and I really respect it even if it’s a game I’m not rushing to replay
XD My little brothers would hate this review so much. They LOVE this game so much. I, myself, couldn't play it, but I enjoyed watching others do it. I dunno, I do agree there is room for improvement, but it was just something I found myself enjoying regardless. "Man With the Machine Gun" was a good track, but I tend to find myself gravitating toward "Premonition" (Sorceress battle theme) sometimes, too. Out of all the characters I wish they could've expanded on, Ultimecia most definitely. We knew nothing about her other than she wanted to screw time up, simply because she could. The creators outright denied she's a future Rinoa that lost her knight (Squall), and that's why she's doing this. Either way, I enjoyed your review. It was honest, to the point, and no sugar coating.
Out of all the Final Fantasy games they could remake to make it better...? Hmm.... that's a tough one. I could say 12, get rid of that god awful License system, and make it feel less like an MMO. That's just me.
why did you dislike the license system ?
as someone that didn’t like ff8 that much I agreed with your opinion
FF8 is one of the FF's that's aged the worst, but not that soundtrack tho. God bless Uematsu!
I'm wanting a Final Fantasy V remake similar to the FFIV remake on DS. FFV is my favorite game in the series and I'd love to see the charming characters and fun story properly remade. And Faris is the best FF character.
Oh. the salt! 🧂🧂🧂 It is TASTY!
This is probably a really weird take but I'd love to see a remake of VI BUT! In the style of the PS1 era FFs, so like pre-rendered backgrounds, turn-based combat (so basically just keep the old combat but ~IN 3D~!), cute character models, and maybe some drop-dead gorgeous CG cutscenes every now and then
Just stumbled upon your channel and, so far, I really enjoy it. I saw the chrono trigger and final fantasy IV review and now the final fantasy VIII, but what's with Final Fantasy VII? Easily one of the best JRPGs of all time also I'm missing Knights of the old Republic. Maybe I just found it in your video list, or probably a ton of other people already suggested these two games to you. Also, they aren't really pixel art, except for the backgrounds in FFVII. Well, thanks for your reviews, I like your style, and I'm curious about your take on final fantasy VII.
Hello and thank you.
Ehhh, I don't really care to cover games that already have so much coverage. Unless it's a game I've been anticipating myself like Kingdom hearts 3, or Persona 5 back in the day.
Everyone and their mother has covered FF7 not to mention I have several other games that I own that I want to get too. I appreciate the comment and support!
@@PelvicGaming yeah, true. Just noticed the absence, between all the other great games. But good to know, so there is the possibility to discover some lesser-mentioned titles here. Thanks and have a nice day.
I always felt like I was the only one that wasn't into FF8. It's good to know I'm not alone in that feeling. Excellent video with well thought out points. I'm gonna subscribe now.
You're definitely not alone. Nobody likes 8 (but me lol)
@@bobgray6498 you shouldn't say nobody the game is just divisive
I thought it was the worst rpg I have ever played.
I played 8 in 1999 and fell in love with it. I was 15 and a moody teen who identified with squall. And his growth made me want to grow as well. As an adult, this game is flawed as hell. Yet when the remaster came out, I got every trophy and 100% completed it, again. I think my nostalgia played a huge part in my love of this experiment of a AAA game. You points are all not only valid but correct. I will only disagree about the music as I adore it (but again, nostalgia) this was a fantastic review and I am a sub for life!
VIII is either my fourth or fifth favorite game in the series depending on my mood with II in the other slot (And I mean II not IV) The one thing I truly hate isb that enemies level up with you and I hate that in every game that does it. I put in the effort to level up my characters while the AI did nothing so why should the AI's characters get stronger along with mine?
I was a fan of this game like 15 years ago when I was a teenager but now as a 27 year old adult? I really can't stand this game and especially how the game operates on its mechanics. The soundtrack is still kickass tho.