Cabinetry Basics P3 [Video 437]
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- I get a lot of questions about #cabinet and #carcass #construction and in this series I aim to answer them all; in Part 1 I discussed the fundamentals of construction, in Part 2 I went going through the most basic methods of joining the sides to the top & base, and here in Part 3 we’re upping our game and using seven different types of hidden fixings.
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Peter, I like how your sponsor is actually relevant to your viewers. No NordVPN or Trade coffee. I’m sure I speak for others when I say that I really appreciate it.
Thanks Pavel! Yes, I was really pleased when MEDITE got in touch, as they're such a perfect fit - I've no interest in trying to push inappropriate products in front of you guys - too much respect for that. 🙌
@@10MinuteWorkshop I got some medite MDF based on your recommendations in previous videos, and to be honest I was really disappointed. I was hoping for something to complain about, but it was virtually flawless. I sent it back, got some cheap stuff from b&q and then phoned up b&q customer service to complain about their inferior product. I felt a lot better about myself.
@@ricos1497 lol good one.
I'm brazilian, now unemployed thinking about getting started with a cabinetry business. Really interesting to see how far behind in time our furniture is, I've never seen any of this fixing stuff anywhere around here. Thanks for sharing the knowledge and for your awesome explanations ❤
I'm stunned by the completeness of Peter's execution in this offering. Top 10 viewings I've experienced on TH-cam.
Thank you! 🙌
Really enjoying this series Peter. Perfect for us beginners.
Thanks! 👍
Very nice content, however, not very ‘beginner’ when using a Festool Domino 😅
@@orconunit you can be a beginner with deep pockets. They are straight forward to use and arguably easier than say dowels or pocket holes.
@@orconunit was talking about the series generally. Good to understand what options there are for fixings at different price points, even if I won’t be buying a Festool any time soon.
@@orconunit But showing all the other alternatives is very useful for us beginners
There is something about the English accent and their way of doing things that is so soothing & satisfying. Ta
Cheers! 😆👍👍
Great video Peter! Thanks for including the PEANUT system!
Thanks! Great system - looking forwards to getting my hands on the mini jig! 😆👍
Love this series Peter. Would you consider giving us more content like this??? You explain things so well; I think there are many viewers out there that would like to learn joinery and woodworking, drawing on your vast experience. This is by far the best UK woodworking channel on TH-cam;
not just technically superb, but your videos are enjoyable and fun to watch.
Thanks Anthony! Judging by the success of this series so far, I’m pretty sure I’ll be doing more of this type of thing, yes! 👍👍
Peter has a long standing Patreon supporter of your channel, this series for newcomers or someone considering building cabinets must be finding this series sooooo helpful. Nice one Peter. Cheers Paul
Thanks Paul, I really appreciate that. Hopefully it helps anyone at a slightly more advanced level as well in deciding the basic differences between the jointing systems. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop oh yes...deffo 👍👍
Very much enjoyed your first two videos in the series, Peter, and about to watch your third. I've used radial arm saws, fixed and sliding chop saws and tablesaws, but I've never seen a saw like yours, which looks so easy to use and very safe. Could you do a comparison of the different types of saws, or at least talk about the power saw that you use. Thanks so much! Peter in the USA
Hi Peter, and thank you. I've talked bout the plunge saw, and the MFT sawbench many times over the years, there are entire playlists dedicated to videos on the topic, here are a couple to get you started:-
Tracksaw workshop & all tracksaw-related videos - bit.ly/TracksawWorkshop
MFT (MultiFunction Table) & MFT-related videos - bit.ly/MFT-related
Hope that helps. P
Thank you Peter. My brother was a cabinet maker and I've always been what we call a "wood butcher." As you probably know, it means someone who builds things but doesn't really know proper technique. I've been doing volunteer work building scenery for two different theaters, so I am starting to learn a few things here and there... mostly how not to cut off my fingers. Be well, and thank you so much for posting these videos.
I will hopefully be building cabinets in my garage/ workshop soon and was searching TH-cam for advice,, I found your video's really helpful and informative and straight to the point, many thanks
Thank you! 👍
Great series Peter these are the sort of videos people at beginners level need to see cheap ways then the more expensive way as you expand yourself.
Thanks Mark! And that was the plan! 👍👍
I'm always really impressed with the accuracy of your joints. Not just about having the right equipment but also the experience to replicate cuts and fixings to 10th's of a mm!
Thank you! 👍
This is a brilliiant series. Thanks Peter and look forward to more learning.
Thanks Tahoe! 👍👍
The peanut looks better every time you compare it to something else. The other good one being dowels though obviously you use that as a knockdown connector as it needs to be glued.
I’ve been willing you on to 100k for years now. So glad you crossed the line. 👏🥂
Thanks Howard! 😆👍👍
I’m an amateur woodworker but really like these presentations..thanks
Many years ago I too made furniture (built in) for a living. Faced with a similar dilema of having "top boxes" of a built-in wardrobe too big for workshop final assembly and delivery to the client, I turned to using biscuits joints assembled on site. Fully assembled and glued they would not go through the bedroom door! But, as the bedroom was in use overnight I could not leave them clamped in the bedroom while the glue dried. I used 'Confirmat' screws between the biscuits. Just a 7mm pilot hole and a 9mm clearance hole. The head is self countersinking. Glue and assemble in the bedroom, then drive in the Confirmat screws and add to the framework of the wardrobe. Job Done!
As someone who spent 10 years in the office furniture business assembling assorted knockdown pieces, I'm amazed at the ongoing ingenuity of some of the manufacturers. Had I had access to some of these connectors, I would have much less grey hair. Unfortunately we don't have access to a lot of these connectors on the western side of the Atlantic.
I bought the Dowelmax back in 2010 and have really liked it other than the mess it makes when drilling holes as there is no dust collection. I really wanted the Domino back then but decided it wasn't worth the high cost as well as high cost of the domino tenons whereas the dowels were much cheaper. Interesting to see some of these other connectors I wasn't familiar with, but will be sticking with my Dowelmax as it does everything I need it to do.
I enjoy all you videos. Excellent information and well presented. Thank you. Wayne from Georgia, USA
Thanks Wayne, really appreciate the feedback. Best wishes from London! 👍
One tip with the biscuit joiner that I have found helps improve my lines... don't reference off of the fence the way you are doing, always reference off of the solid bottom of the tool whenever possible. You get more consistent results like that. Biscuits are my go-to joint for cabinet carcasses, very quick, easy and reliable. Thanks for the vid!
Your basic series is fantastic - I was looking the whole evening different clips but in your clips I found everything I needed. Very easy to understand and I like the easy step-by-step how you explain. Thanks!!
Peter, having just discovered your channel, I must express my immense gratitude. I will be renovating a flat I just bought diy and in such a short space and time watching your video have learned a wealth of knowledge. Thank you and keep up the amazing content.
Thank you! Congrats on the flat and hope everything goes to plan! If you check out the playlists, you’ll find videos grouped together by type eg all the ‘shelves and storage’ client work all in one place. 👍👍
Excellent Peter.👍
Thanks! 👍
Very informative and useful video as usual Peter, well done.
Thanks! 👍
Thank you Peter for putting so much effort into this for us all to enjoy!! Looking forward to episode 4
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! 👍
Love your videos so simple and perfectly explained. It’s a simple dowel jig for me from a budget perspective. Would love a Domino but couldn’t justify the cost
Just discovered yourself and this series this morning, very informative and useful, well presented and little to no excess fluff. Great job 👍
Thanks, and welcome, 👍
Bought the Peanut 2 system based on your previous video on it. Going to use it to built a kitchen.
Nice! Great system! 👌👍
Did you look at the peanut 3 as well?
@@Z-add I did a bit. It is pretty much the same, except it uses glue, instead of a screw. I can use the same jig I bought for both peanut 2 and 3 connectors. I think the peanut 3 is more aimed towards professional shops using automation. I can be wrong, but that's the impression I got.
Brilliant Peter , thanks for taking the time , I as a novice really appreciate it .
Pleasure! 👍
Peter, I live in Mexico, but I learned a lot from your advices. I am planning to build a bathroom cabinet, I was in doubt about which joint method to use, with your videos I’ve found the best for this project. Thanks. My both thumbs up :)
Thanks Rafael! Hope it goes well! 👍👍
Hi Peter, Great series - still learning from your presentations. I particularly like how you were deliberate in placing the advert in the video. Formalising the break makes the video even more professional. Thanks
Thanks! Yes, I prefer to have an ad places, rather than just thrown in as TH-cam usually does! 👍
Very interesting and informative Peter
Thanks Steve! 👍
Nice review Peter. I think the peanuts are the winner if you have to hide your connectors.
Thoroughly appreciate this series Peter. Best regards again from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Thanks Bill! 👍👍
I’ve been procrastinating a floor to ceiling bookcase build, thank you so much for the information. I’ll be starting the build real soon, just need to figure out how a circular saw works first 😅
amazing skills.. very helpful to understand
thank you.
This man should be required study for all US based cabinet makers. Everything seems to be pocket holes and gobs of filler these days on this side of the pond. Excellent series and awesome instruction for beginners. Thank you for your videos and I'm itching to try out that Medite MR MDF, but the nearest supply house that keeps it in stock is 90 miles or 145km away.
Thank you! 🙌👍
Very interesting and well made. Learned a lot.
Nice job Peter.
Thanks Brian! 👍
Great video. I’m liking this peanut joint. I need to check it out more.
Hi Peter, like the series. Just finishing my ‘ten minute’ style unit for my office. Shaker doors, with back, sides again shaker, all from MDF. My local suppliers don’t have Medite MDF and I am amazed by how much the material varies. Finish faces are not always that smooth and core can be ‘fluffy’ and less dense when drilled.
After much searching found a local(ish) Medite stockiest. Going to used for the next project
One extra consideration for someone starting out you can also get a ‘biscuit bit’ for a router. Harder to use out of the box than a biscuit machine but takes up less space than yet another tool and cheaper too. No criticism just throwing it out there for anyone reading comments
Thanks Doug! Yes, good point re the router cutter - assumes you have a router, of course. Re MDF there really is a big difference with eg Medite MR. It really is a much better quality board. 👍👍
This is going to be a great series for a lot of people!!
Thanks Andy! 👍
The peanut is definitely growing on me-- thanks for the info Peter👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cheers Alan! 👍
Another great video, I like the 'bodgers joint' where you just use a dowel like a nail, line up joint, drill hole through both pieces (no fancy jig required lol), add glue to dowel and mash into hole with hammer and trim top with chisel, as the dowels are usually a bit wonky with each other they naturally hold everything in place, the only downside is that disassembly destroys object unless you drill out the dowels.
'Skew dowelling' lol! I do the same thing with dominos sometimes - very effective! 👍💪
Love my Bosch biscuit joiner and my Joint Genie dowelling jig. Two simple great bits of kit but I would love a Lemelo.
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Thanks Peter. I always bake my swollen biscuits in the over prior to a “fancy build”. I crank the oven to 200’F turn it off when it reaches temp and let them dry. Great Video. I do believe you’d make a fine Actor!
Haha, thanks! 👍
Hi Peter, I’ve stayed loyal to my Festool Domino. When I make cabinets and wardrobes now I just use the domino’s for alignment and then secure it all together by using M7 x 50mm Confirmat screws. They’re great screws to use, especially in mdf, they just need a 5mm pilot hole and screw in without any splitting. Using them also does away with the need for glue and clamps although using glue is still an option.
Cheers Andy! I never got along with confirmat screws in MDF - always preferred my regular Spax M-cut - but I know a few guys who use them happily, and they certainly produces a strong joint with dominos for alignment. 💪👍
Very keen on the Peanut system, and a cheaper entry fee.
It's coming... 👍
Greetings from Australia. Just discovered your video's. Thanks so much for posting them. I find them very informative and concise. Your explanations are not to fast or slow. Thanks Again.😉😉
Thank you, great to hear you're enjoying the content! Best wishes from London! 👍
Still a good series....thanks
Awesome, this series seems to be on fire with your viewers!🔥
Quite relevant and a good range of choices to suit just about everyone interested. 👍🏽
Thanks Bill! Yes, seems to be a popular one! 😆👍
Great video Peter. 🙏
Thanks Daniel! 👍
Hi Peter - as others have said really enjoying this series and as a follower of you since almost the start these videos are possibly the most inspiring I have watched on youtube. I have watched almost every woodworker on YT over the years and I watch them doing the stuff they do and while they make it look easy I have always been intimidated at taking on anything that would be classed as fine woodworking or cabinetry that you and other show on here so this series is great. At Christmas I got someone to buy me your MFT table and plan on building up (with tools at the cheap end) like tracksaws, dogs, rails, etc so that I can possibly make something for inside the house... Please keep up the work here it is very much appreciated and I enjoy your style of videos.
Thanks Colin - I'm really pleased to hear that! I started the channel precisely because I thought there were enough guys out there showing how to hand cut dovetails for trinket boxes, but few showing how to screw MDF together to make a wardrobe. Obviously while working full time, I could only really show what I was doing to earn a shilling, but now I have a bit ore time to dedicate to the channel, I can do a few of the projects I really want to do. Plenty more to come! 👍
Hi Peter, really enjoying this series as its adaptable for bookcases etc. Would you consider finishing off the series with what you use to paint varnish etc? Cheers.
Hi Christian, and thanks! To be honest I’ve done a lot of videos about painting - my 7-part series on painting and finishing starts video 029 th-cam.com/video/dgTN2QPgoD8/w-d-xo.html, or there’s the more recent paining MDF doors video - about doors specifically, but painting generally. Or there’s a ‘spraying adventures’ playlist with all that stuff in it too. 👍👍
Regarding the speed comparison, I would have liked to see the cleanup time added in. I have a 12" DeWalt, which basically has no dust collection with an -oval- vac connection, and I'll be glad to get rid of it. My lungs deserve better.
I am learning so much
Another cracking video. Very informative, straight to the point, superbly produced. Cheers Peter 👍🏻
Thanks Graeme, very kind of you to say. 👍
Great video
. For me it's, 18-gauge nails and glue for things that will be painted and Pocket holes where you won’t see them. Dowels for where additional strength is needed and/or it needs to be knocked down and assembled in situe. I don’t see the point of the lamello tbh, but the domino looks like a great tool. Not worth it for me as a DIYer but for paid work would be a no-brainer.
As well as a dowel jig, I find those cheap dowel marking pins incredibly helpful in the real world of fitting things together in a room build. Drill a hole for your dowel, stick marking pin in it, offer up the piece you intend to join and give it a tap, remove it and drill the mating hole where the point made its mark. It’s a slow process but its simple and it works.
Thanks! Slow, simple, and working - sounds like me, lol! 😂👍
Great series Peter, I have the Domino connect system but rarely use it. Now I know why... :)
Thanks Stefan! And yes, shame really - the connect for the df700 is much better thought out. 👍
I bought the Zeta to build trailer walls - wooden frames with GRP planking - and it's easy. With an allowance, I achieved an adhesive joint of two mm. I am excited about the system
Nice! 👌
@@10MinuteWorkshop Danke! Thank you!
Another great video - such a wonderfully interesting series, looking forward to the concluding part! Well done Peter
Thanks! 👍
Great video and awesome tools. Never seen those type of biscuit or dominos. Very clever design.
Thank you very much! 👍
Peter, I just got into your channel. I like what you do, so I'm watching all of your old episodes. You have an interesting perspective on woodworking given that you are in London and the needs and constraints there are slightly different there than what we have in flyover country of the USA. I also like how you present things: clear and precise. You have a talent for these things. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Tim, and welcome! 👍👍
I love how the dowel joint is still well in the game for a basic setup. If anyone is serious in the dowel joint game and dont want to buy a Mafell duo-doweller I would recommend the JessEm Dowel Jig. I have the metric jig set order and waiting on its arrival.
Was very impressed with dowels when I made my lightweight trestles, even with a basic dowel jig like this one. 👍👍
Shame that the dowelmax has vanished from the UK and you have to order from Canada now.
As I said before: a very interesting series with basics that come in handy for beginners (and those who forgot the basics) Keep on!
Thanks! 👍
Excellent presentation Peter. Thank you Sir.
Thanks Dave! 👍
Thanks for the clear, concise information.
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Have used the domino quiet a bit at work and must say they are fantastic,makes the mortise and tenon possible in manufactured boards,he peanut does just about look like an affordable option for the home however,very interesting videos.
Big fan of the Domino, had one since the very start - but the peanut is so, so good!
@@10MinuteWorkshop Being a woodwork teacher I honestly can't fault the domino apart from the cost,I take it there is no special screw required for the peanut?
Great video and very comprehensive. Particularly like your comment about cutting boards to same size as this was what I struggled with until buying a track saw. Am going down dowel route at moment using a homemade jig attached to a router. This seems to give good accuracy without cost of some of the expensive dowel jigs. While I looked at them I decided if I was going to spend that much I might as well bite bullet and get a Mafell DDF40. Just need to buy a stack of clamps now.......
Peanut connectors look good and a mini jig would suit my knock down needs nicely.
Hadn't thought of using a router - I might try that, thanks! 👍
Another excellent video Peter,
I have one of those dowel jigs and for some reason I never thought to not use the self centring side and just use the fence! makes soo much more sense in hindsight.
Thanks! Yes, the self-centering is really clever, but not so much when it only works on the edge, not the face! 🤷♂️ 👍
Again, top tutorial on basic cabinet construction! The peanut doofer looks cool. I think, though, I'd be inclined to hang out for the mini jig for my purposes. A good number of years ago, I purchased a cheap biscuit joiner (Screwfix) to use onsite to join flooring and to line up architraves on uneven walls. As far as making cabinets goes, I don't really think they are man-enough. Certainly no match to pva, nails and screws,
I'd say the next best (poor man's) option would be the good old dowel. Cheap and plenty strong; just a tad awkward to line up compared to the more esoteric options you showcase.
Hey, I'd love a Festool domino, but quite honestly, I don't do enough furniture making to justify the cost. As far as built in units are concerned - kitchen cabinets and the like - I'd say that being able to conceal the fixings is only really an issue with gables that would be visible, as the external, top, side and bottom sections of the carcases would be hidden from view in most galley or horseshoe style kitchens, where glue and screws, or pocket holes would be my preferred options.
As ever, much obliged to you for sharing your experience with such clarity!
Yep, totally agree. And these methods aren't exclusive either - most of the cabs I built had dominos for alignment, but screws for quick clamping, exactly for the reasons you state, that the sides were mostly hidden. 👍👍
subbed, and liked here. this is fantastic. thanks
Well done Peter on your 100k subscribers
Thanks Richard! 🙌👍
What a concise but thorough comparison of knockdown connectors! I've been following your experience with the peanut 2 connectors and have to say that seems like a very compelling option.
Thank you! Yes, the Peanut 2 ticks a lot of boxes; more to come in that area in the next few weeks. 👍
Nice to learn about the alternatives. Thanks.
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Those connectors are absolutely LIVID! Haha, always love the outtakes
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Really helpful video series, just getting into making cabinets and larger scale wardrobe units. This gave me great insight. Thanks
Thanks! 👍
A font of knowledge as always Peter 👍
Thanks Craig! 👍
Dear Peter - very nice and clear overview, thanks. One thought: if you make one of the slots for the Domino’s a tight slot in both panels which are to be connected, then those panels line up nicely. If the other slots at the same time are wider, then any slight misalignment of the other slots will not make the fit between the panels difficult. I typically make the front slots in the panels narrow and the other ones wider - which makes the fit nice and quick at the same time.
That is a difference as well with the Lamello connectors, which do allow some shifting between the panels, which can be nice, but it means as well that manual alignment needs to be part of your steps.
Thanks, yes, that was always how the domino was demonstrated - one fixed narrow ‘pair’ to locate the board, and the others loose to make life easier. But in the end, it was just another step to take and when you’re banging out a dozen carcasses a day, it was just easier to leave the edge mortises all narrow, and the face mortises wide, and just align them with a finger. You need to be a bit careful with lateral movement on the lamello fittings, too, because if you try to shift them too far they start to pivot - don’t ask me how a I know that! 😂😂👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop good example of why looking & listening to your videos is so interesting! Really something to think about: what is really determining progress and precision when you have hands on experience.
Wrt shifting connections with Lamellos - I think I make the biscuit slots always just a little bit deeper for that purpose than needed. Just to be able to shift a little without opening the joint. I have an old “classic” Lamello machine, which I only use, obviously, for the flat biscuits. The Lamello Zeta which I bought more recently on the other hand is far more (has to be far more) tightly adjusted wrt the cutting depth. That is required for a good connection as you pointed out so rightfully for those types of more complex jointers.
It is really nice to look at your videos as well because of just these things. And there are so many more I expect. Things where the reality of making progress and doing lots of work with a jointer results in insights that slightly deviate from the instructions and marketing materials. I think it are really those insights which I highly value in your videos. So: thanks again!
Great video as always. When my house is finished I'm definitely binging your channel to build myself some closets and stuff.
Thanks - and please do! 👍
The videos are informative and interesting. Side note I can't help but imagine you being a commentator, it's the way you speak haha
Good stuff and congratulations on passing the 100K subscribers. Well deserved.
Thank you! 👍👍
Ever consider doing a video on marking systems for cabinets? Like the triangles, the mark you showed in this video, etc. Advantages and disadvantages of each, when to use, meaning, etc. It might fit well into this series.
It’s something I’m thinking about, yes. A bit of research to do first though! 👍👍
Is that a sock at 4:59?! For connecting the biscuit joiner to dust extraction?! That is utter genius! 👌🧦
Ha! No, though it does look a bit like one! It's a braided sleeve that fits around the ribbed dust extractor hose that helps prevent snagging. A sock would e cheaper though! 😂👍
Thank god it's friday again :-)
Too right! 😂👍
A very good overview of machine based connections. From cheap (dowling jig) to expensive (Lamello Zeta). I am using a Makita Biscuit joiner and i have laerned, that person behind the machine makes the result ;-) A cheap jig can be "best fit" for beginners...
Thanks! 👍👍
I was thinking that the easy way is usually the best way but if you use dowels and glue what if you need to disassemble. You use a hot gun. It needs more time but you are going to watch it more time then disassemble it so it is a good option if you preorder the parts and assemble them yourself
I love this Series. Amazing work. You make it look so easy. Thank you very much.
Thank you! 👍
Hi Peter, good overview of options. For the biscuit/plate joiner, you may want to also consider the Knapp Silver or Sunny fasteners that drive into a standard biscuit slot and are totally invisible. Silver is much stronger than the Sunny though. Steve
Thanks Steve - never heard of them, but wow, they make the Domino Connect fasteners look cheap! Good option to have though, I'm sure! 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop I don't know about that. The Knapp Silver connectors are about $1 per pair in the US and the Domino connect are much more.
Very good instruction video ...very enjoyable watching this series well done 👍 and thanks again
Thank you! 👍
Do you know if there is a plan to release a peanut bit to fit the 1/4inch routers / spindle? Would be great to use this system alongside workbee
I don't, no - I wish, and I have asked - even an 8mm shank would allow for a smaller, neater router. Keep you posted if I hear anything! 👍
I sent a message to IF a couple weeks ago and apparently 8mm are on order.
Ahh crap, my er11 collets maxs at 7mm.
Ok so reached out to them, and they have said there will also be a quarter inch one coming in the the next month or 2. Should really expand the number whi can use them!
Hi Peter. Firstly, thank you for sharing your knowledge and explaining the ‘why’ you do things the way you do, it really does help understand the right / wrong (or limitations) of certain things. Have you ever seen / used the type of connector used in the Tylko shelving system?
Thanks Matthew! I've never had hands-on with the Tylko systems, but I believe the connector is proprietary to them - part of their 'system' I think. 👍
Although I knew where my abilities were, I was reassured in a way to see dowels and biscuits referenced in this series. I must admit I was using exposed dowel in early days (and still used them where appropriate later on) as it allowed me to clamp a carcass square and then drill a depth limited hole through the side of the cabinet and the dowel went through the side into the upper or base. Sand flush and then paint. I use biscuits but do find they offer little in the way of strength or support. Surprised that the Hafele Cam and Dowel locks werent mentioned as readily available and are commonplace in certain Swedish flat pack furniture. Relatively easy to install with a jig or guide and cheap at about 12p per paired fixing. For flat pack customer assembly they are ideal as components easy to inventorise (yes its a word I checked!) and supply the right number of fittings per cabinet. Still another great video and looking forward to the next one.
Thanks Ian - I do the same with Dominos! Re cam & dowel, the cheapest jig I can find here in the UK is £100 or so which pitches it up against some stiffer competition in stand-alone power tools. And without a jig they’re fiddly to do well. 👍
I bought a cam and dowel jig on Amazon for £60 or so. Made in China but surprisingly well engineered. I’m not a huge fan of the system for true knockdown use, as the cams seem to work loose. Plus you have a 15mm interior hole to deal with. I used it on a recent project with a reducing bushing for cross dowel jointing, although that was obviously not a hidden fixing. Love your work, Peter. Even your big mistake videos induce a sense of calm!
@@nigelshardlow402 I bought a similar jig (same price, made overseas). Make about twenty cabinets with cam and dowel, not had a problem. Would guess it could be down to the quality of the jig. As for the hole then depends on the nature of the piece your making of it is acceptable or not.
@@iankearns It must depend on where they are installed I think. I had some cam and dowels holding on the front panels of IKEA drawers. Obviously they got a lot of pushing and pulling in that application. I ended up gluing them on, problem solved.
Wooden dowles work great for me. Be mindful and careful all you are gonna need is a couple of these copper spike things.
Brilliant series so far Peter extremely helpful and well explained, hopefully there will be more like it in the future. All the best!
Thanks Billy, and yes, I’m pretty sure there’ll be more like this in future. 👍
Hi Peter, brilliant as ever, you got me started with the Domino now it’s the peanut looking forward to the mini jig!
Steve
Cheers Steve! 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Hi Peter, just rewatched your IF video any problems working from centre lines when lining up the edges of a carcass?
Steve
Hi Steve. No, none at all - but if you prefer to work from an edge, then the mini-jig may suit you better; I should have a video out in a couple of weeks or so.👍
Great video Peter as always. Regards from Ireland.
Thanks George! 👍
Another good one - even for anyone with experience. Just for info my Zeta P2 has cut Tenso slots fine out of the box - I haven't needed to adjust at all.
Good to know, thanks! 👍
Think you must of been unlucky, my zeta worked fine with the tenso straight out the box. Expensive but for speed of use and sheer satisfaction, the lamello has pretty much made my domino redundant. I sometimes create joints in small bedrooms and I can do that on the floor with the zeta but not so easy with a domino, I prefer using that on a bench set up.
Maybe, but I can only comment on the tools I have, and that’s how mine was, out of the box 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop I'd be interested when Peter bought his Zeta and when these other guys did? If there are years in between maybe it got improved by the manufacturers? I'd be interested in the steps Peter had to do to fix his issues.