I still remember coming home from school and checking every day if there was a new chapter of the Nuzlocke comic. Turns out I was onto something lol Also massive shoutout to ExcoessivelyAve who was the only other person doing Nuzlockes regularly on Twitch when I started. A huge part of my initial small community were people that had come over from collaborating with him and he's still a fantastic friend today. This video was a great walk down memory lane :)
I still check up on it from time to time... but it's been like 5 years now I think. It's a shame too, I remember when the author had Pokemon Hardmode, Speedrun and Space Cat running at the same time. Feels like ages ago now. Still tho, maybe after a long hiatus they'll return someday. Afterall, this is all happening for a reason.
seeing all of these old thumbnails, especially of my own nuzlockes really took me back, it’s so cool to be a part of the nuzlocke history alongside so many of my friends and peers. sick video wolfe, keep it up 🙏
Really humbled to be included here. Shadylocke holds a special place in my heart, even more so now. ❤ I watched the whole video twice now, another banger, Wolfe!
Wolfey has become the unofficial Professor Oak of the game in real life. Extremely knowledgeable, fills a compendium of Poke-info, insanely skilled at the game. Beyond champion.
All I’m saying is JWittz and Gnoggin might be in there… Also Wolfey needs to hire a 10 year old to do his work for him before becoming officially a professor
slight correction: first hardcore nuzlocke was actually done by marriland back in 2013 in his platinum nuzlocke with the exact same rules as those used in modern hardcore nuzlockes. It definitely wasn't called that at the time though
I do feel amiss not bringing up Mariland in the history of the nuzloke he is not making much content today, but he made some of the most fun nuzlokes I've ever watched. It was what got me and many others into nuzloking. He was the inventor of the wedlocke which is a staple nuzloke variant today and was very popular during the 2010's. Anyway, I just want to bring him up as apart of the history, since, at least for me, he was very important.
Don't forget that he also used the "hardcore nuzlocke" rule format, before it was even called the "hardcore nuzlocke" for his pokemon platinum nuzlocke.
This. Marriland was so big and influential back in the day, it's a shame he wasn't done justice in this nevertheless amazing video. You just need to look at how much fanart he received of the pokemon he used in each run to understand his magnitude.
Plus Marriland was the “first” Pokemon content creator having a full walkthrough of gen 4 back in 2006. He was making videos for his website to provide free guides through the games. Later on, he dive into content creating until around a year before the pandemic which he decided to go back to his roots of focusing on his website. He was burned out of making videos as many wanted Nuzlockes which he doesn’t enjoy making anymore. He’s also a traditionalist refusing to do any game breaking mechanics on games so any rom hacks or cheats are a no go to him. He plays with official copies of the games.
Seriously as good as this video is Marriland was an instrumental part of why nuzlockes got so big at the end of the day so I just wish I got the recognition he deserves fr
The Nuzlocke community has come so far since the early days of live Pokemon content, i'm honored that I could be a small part of history. People like Jan, Haydunn, Shady, Drew, and many others continue to inspire me. Can't wait to see where Nuzlockes go next!
Wolfey’s script writing and comedy are so good. “The plan was simple” at 36:30 is such a sly little reference and gave me a good chuckle, and that’s just one of many such moments
Well, I mean yeah. Have you seen the amount of views those nuzlockes get? Add on the fact that her channel seems to have a consistent viewer base and this just seems like a smart choice. Honestly, I’d argue that using her in the thumbnail makes sense from a video perspective as well. Being as widely viewed as they are with a story-focused style to them I feel emphasizes the point. The only thing that would make sense would be to replace her with some Nuzleaf theme.
@@atlat412 From a theming perspective maybe, it was Jaiden's first nuzlocke, but nuzlocke content has been around before that vid came out. I doubt it's the first one, but the first time I saw nuzlocke content on youtube was from a dude named Blacklightattack wayyy back in 2011 on a channel called TGN.
Amazing video! Only thing that makes me a bit sad is the lack of mention of Mariland because he was the only person I remember doing nuzlock type content for a chunk of time there. He may not have been the best or the biggest, but he was really consistent for a huge chunk of time when there weren't as many others
@@sparkywoofwoofUKHe actually did. And arguably, the first Hardcore Nuzlocke as well. His Platinum Nuzlocke had a level cap, no items from the Bag could be used in battle except for Poké Balls, and he played on Set Mode.
Correction: The first Nuzlocke comic, the Ruby Hard Mode, actually ended with a wipe to Steven. This lead directly into the more story driven Fire Red Nuzlocke, where things REALLY ramped up.
@@mcnalga I know. Haven't reread the comic for like 10 years but I don't remember any problematic stuff besides some edgy internet humor from the time. Also calling it a bad drawn comic specially after the start of fire red is so disingenuous in my opinion.
For people who can see this, I would personally recommend reading the original nuzlocke comic alongside the fire red comic made after it. As long as you go into it knowing there will be dated humor and are okay with that, it's a fun read to see where nuzlockes all started!
@@prometheustv6558True. Set Mode? Check. Level limit? Check. No items from the Bag in battle? Check. All of which can be found in Hardcore Nuzlocke today.
It sucks to see how little was actually represented for the pre-Jaiden era of nuzlocking. No Marriland, MunchingOrange, Hardyt3kyoyo. A lot of the early nuzlocking examples are mainly limited to Poketubers who are still relevant today while some of the other big names back then are left to be forgotten. Love all the detail for post-Jaiden era though. I assume xProuty being the first to beat EK deathless happened too late to appear.
yeah im kind of amazed how quickly the 2010s deviantart comic era got passed over! can't blame wolfey because he probably wasnt really aware of those communities but there were a lot of classic nuzlocke comics that were instrumental in spreading interest of the format before youtube really picked up the topic.
Tyranitartube as well, I'm surprised that his extreme randomizers were never mentioned despite that Alpha Sapphire Extreme easily could have fit into the rom-hacks or kaizo section.
Love the whole bit about Shady; he's one of the all time greats. He (and someone who must not be named) really established what Nuzlockes were for a while. They also put the soul link on the map. I think an interesting tidbit a lot of people don't know is that the Soul Link was conceived as a two player version of Marriland's Wedlocke.
@@stonalisa3729 I don't want to give the person notoriety, but they got in trouble for alleged grooming. They were the largest poketuber at the time. That incident caused the downfall of almost every Poke/nuz channel popular at the time because they all had some drama in this.
im a little disappointed no mention of marriland?? he made the wedlockes and his nuzlockes were unique, kinda like jaidens video but it wasn't animated it was done while playing, he added a memorial montage after each death and it was nuzlocking done with respect and friendships with his pokemon. definetly up there with patterrz and jaiden
Plus, he did a Hardcore Nuzlocke before Hardcore Nuzlocke was even a thing. His Platinum Nuzlocke had a level limit, no items from the bag in battle apart from Poké Balls, and Set Mode. All of which are rules in a Hardcore Nuzlocke.
The Nuzlocke forums were an integral part of my childhood. Those edited screenshot runs were peak Pokémon storytelling. Though the FlygonHGs and PokemonChallenges of our day are the best in the sense of gaming challenges, there's just something so nostalgic about those screenshot runs. Where everything happened for a reason.
This was an incredible retrospective! The only thing I felt wasn't represented well enough was the impact of Nuzlocke comics, specifically those done by Kylee-nim. Myths of Unova got me hooked on the concept of a Nuzlocke, and her rich world-building and incredible art really raised the bar for what a narrative Nuzlocke comic could be. And she was working on it while in Med School! She even created one of the more well-known Fakemon in that comic, Vahirom, a possible idea for what the Tao Trio may have looked like as one Pokemon. Her hard work and dedication to her Nuzlocke and her comic shouldn't be forgotten or overlooked. She's even to this day publishing pages of a sequel comic based on a run she did in B2W2!
Dude her comic was what got me into nuzlocking after reading ruby hard mode, sad to see that the most popular early forum content was mostly skipped over for more recent but wolfe definitely had more to talk about with things he was involved in. Just wish that the early community got its flowers.
Oh man I remember this comic! The art and story were so good! I fell off reading nuzlocke comics before it concluded so I'll have to go back and read it at some point.
This. I know nuzlockes have been a thing you stream for a decade or so but to me the true "medium" for a nuzlocke is as a webcomic. I feel like they lose something without an original main character and added subplots which was standard practice back then
exactly! webcomics! there's a handful I really enjoyed I made a few back in the day. Myth's of Unova, I gotta go back and read BW comics are my fave. Pettyartist (Gen 1 and Gen 2), Yindragon (Kick @SS Firered mode), Landwalker's Yellow Nuzlocke, a few i used to read. There's one for a Sinnoh nuzlocke that makes me laugh all the time, the true goat for DelelelWoop, a cherim destorying things with solar beam, and a ref to pokemon quartz with that ugly baro mon. (looked it up its called Babos). that one made me laugh every page, if only I can find it. ;__;
It’s wild how detailed this was and there’s still so much that could be covered. I was around the deviantart nuzlocking comic community in the early 2010s and that was a whole thing, and what originally got me inspired to Nuzlocke. Marriland’s Wedlockes also probably could have had their own section in Nuzlocking history, that felt like one of the big variants to first get popularized and actually played? And while covered in the rom hacks section to an extent, it’s fascinating what optimizations have been made for each game. Like even simple ones like how powerful Guts Raticate/Swellow can be or how Linoone can be made into a consistent E4 sweeper in Emerald. We all probably started by playing mostly normally and not planning too far ahead and now the community’s play has been really pushed to a high level as we all got better and communities continued to grow.
nuzlocke at first: makes the pokemon die to make the bond with them more appreciated nuzlocke nowadays: *proceeds to make an explosion team because is the best strategy*
I was there when Nuzlocke draw his first comic and I loved the message board he builded up. Found some cool people from all around the world there to talk with. I really miss that time.
This video is some serious Marriland erasure - they not only made the Wedlocke but created some of the first, most popular Nuzlocke series on TH-cam! Great video though as always.
This made me so proud to be a part of the community. This video was INCREDIBLE, and I learned so much new lore about something that's become so special to me.
Nuzlockes are the very essence of nostalgia for me. Back in 2012 I loved Nate and Dookie’s Pokémon Soul Silver nuzlocke. My best friend and I did all sorts of competitive “1 v 1 nuzlockes” inspired by them, where we’d battle after every gym and whoever wins more battles wins the nuzlocke competition (or, if you lose the run the other guy wins). We did this for every Pokémon game we owned, and it’s just such a fun time to look back on
There used to be some flowcharts back in the day when nuzlocke webcomics were popular that explained a lot of the rules before they became popular (Like No pkmn centers, no healing, no shopping and some others) and I remember them seeing them a lot myself. When Hardcore Nuzlockes became a thing, it always reminds me that flowchart was there and i found it kinda funny that it existed even so early on. This was such a cool video and so well edited too, good job!
I got into nuzlockes by watching Marilland play through Emerald, Platinum, and Heart Gold as a kid!! Awesome history video man - its extremely nostalgic looking back at all of these historical events :)
His run of Platinum was Hardcore Nuzlocke before that was even a thing. Level limit? Check. No items from the Bag in battle except Poké Balls? Check. Set Mode? Check.
I remember starting to watch nuzlockes way back in 2013-2014 and it's so cool to see how they stuck around and grew so much until now! It was so much cool internet content that came and went so fast that it's easy to lose track of the big picture, thank you so much Wolfe for doing this documentation, all this cool history deserves to be remembered
I created a Nuzlocke Variant myself and played it to some extent: Lololocke. My nickname is Lolo, so that's why. It's basically a Hardcore Nuzlocke with two extra rules: I can get an extra "static" encounter per area where it applies (gift, interactable, etc), and I can change my team only ONCE PER CHECKPOINT. The checkpoints are the level caps set for the challenge, like gyms and such. If a pokémon dies in between checkpoints, I can box/release it and use that empty slot to capture a new pokémon (following all the previous rules) and add it immediately to the party. It's hard to play this way, but the challenge is so nice.
Oh that's interesting, so you almost have to commit to your team for the next gym leader way in advance. Might not be so bad in the early game, but when you have to deal with the "evil team" of the game before you can make it to the next gym, suddenly a lot more planning is required. Cool idea!
Duuude, I remember Haydunn! His content was great, love to see he's still doing stuff. And Jaiden's Ruby Nuzlocke is so iconic. Crazy to think so many people didn't know how Nuzlocke was derived from the Ruby Hard Mode comic, this was such a fantastic video Wolfey, definitely a must watch for anyone even remotely interested in the Nuzlocke side of Pokemon.
I just love how the original era of Nuzlockes emphasizes so much on bonding with unfamiliar pokemons and their deaths becoming so emotionally draining for the players to the GODLIKE-level of gameplay of hardcore nuzlockes where every pokemon is just a tool for the player to clear the challenge. you can catch a pokemon, name it something, feed it steroids, and have it explode on the gym leader's ace just so you can clear it easier, or sack a pokemon that you've spent so much time with away in order to save another pokemon that's going to be more useful in the next gym.
14:15 „…instead let‘s talk about the other most important thing that happened in 2016“ The fact that he didn‘t even reference whoever won worlds that year betrays a level of humbleness I cannot hope to attain.
I love this video, because it is about a community that I have been a part of for the longest time. I'm so happy to see a deep-dive history lesson of this beautiful community. It not only allowed me to see how Pchal had grown to become one of the pioneers of Nuzlocking, not only allowed me to see some pf the forst Nuzlocking videos from creators that I had never seen (and might watch later for my own free time), but I think most importantly, this video truly opened my eyes to how important the smaller pro Nuzlockers were (with some even helping bigger streamers). I appreciate the many Nuzlockers that had come to create this fantastic video :)
Yes. He invented Wedlocke. And his Platinum Nuzlocke was Hardcore Nuzlocke before that was a thing. Level limit? Check. No items from the Bag in battle except for Poké Balls? Check. Set Mode? Check.
Great video as they have been recently. Really well researched and detailed. I would dispute the hardcore nuzlockes origins with Pokemon Challenges. Marriland was using those rules for his 2013 Platinum Nuzlocke run. But Jan was the first to popularize these rules.
@@blazechaos212 Well tbh I don't think Marilland's nuzlocke is nearly as well remembered as his creation of the Wedlocke. And it was never called the hardcore nuzlocke
I personally remember reading IN REAL TIME the original Nuzleaf Locke from Lost comic with my brother. We were in different parts of the country at the time and spoke on the phone for hours a day, and this was one of our favorite things to bond over, but any time I tried I would give up bc I am a Pokémon hoarder and never reset my files or release anything, perfect Pokémon Box, Bank and Home customer right here, whereas my brother would do them all the time. We've had lifelong nicknames for Pokémon like Explodio for drifblims and DLUX for Luxrays born from those early attempts we did
I’ve been so invested in Nuzlockes from a long long time ago, I remember watching Haydunn doing his first Nuzlocke and being gripped by it. It’s a shame the story telling has been lost over time but it makes sense. What a great video 👍🏻
It's soooooo crazy how I, as someone who has watched Pokemon SINCE 2012 on YT, I experienced this all. Especially as a fan of Shady, I didn't even know that he started the ball rolling like that. But I remember SO many people had Nuzlocke variants (especially Egg lockes were massive then). Feels wild being IN that all that history but not noticing it. I can only imagine how this is gonna feel when I see a history book later and talks about 2020 etc lmao.
As someone who's been part of the nuzlocking community since it's inception, I can't help but feel as though wolfey completely glossed over so much of the history in favour of youtuber clout.
BlackLightAttack's Leafgreen Nuzlocke on TGN was huuuge back then, well edited for the time and came before Haydunn's. He's definitely the first person who did the border to show your team/badges through the whole thing
Amazing video! I was really hoping you’d talk about TyranitarTube’s Extreme Randomizer Nuzlocke series. They’re modded version of main series games that have a completely brand new stories, characters and sometimes even Pokémon. They’re some of my favorites, but just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to different types of Nuzlockes.
Love the Haydunn shoutout. This channel aside, he’s always had my favorite Pokémon content on this site, and it’s so great to see him still making content to this day.
I really miss the era where deaths still meant something to most people on emotional levels, and not just feeling sad because of losing a number in an army.
Yeah. I've been watching Flygon hd and this video made me realize the whole "Name your pokemon to build a bond" is basically out the window. I remembere when I did my B2 nuzlocke, when my leavanny died I cheated and brought her back (every time) because I was so attached
Yeah the early days had more of a narrative/emotional feel to it. It as your Nuzlocke journey. No, it's more much of just a gameplay challenge which is cool but doesn't seem as interesting to me.
Nuzlockes used to be personal. You would catch your randomly found teammates, train train them on the wild and trainer pokemon, as you would in any other playthrough, and strategize with what you got to beat the gym leaders. In the Marilland days, we grew attached to Fries the Linoone, Peach the Primeape, Ninjarisu the Pachirisu, etc. He treated it like a playthrough or LP. so we would get constant episodes, getting to go on the journey with him, always worried one of our favourite members could die. But now, its so formulatic. with the "1 video" format, we cant grow attached to team members. its just another catch. With mono type runs, we already know all the mons they're gonna use. No surprises like Kroma getting Dunsparce in Dark Cave, or Marriland being stuck with Pachirisu over Ralts. (Not to mention, it breaks the "first encounter rule", becasue unless two of that type are on a route, you are just running away from encounters until u get the only 1 of that type. You aren't doing a nuzlocke at this point. its a Mono run with permadeath) Also, the "hard core nuzlocke" monicer is redundant. When i first heard it, i thought there'd be super extra hard rules, but its the exaxt same rules Marriland had been doing from Platinum onward, and he never called it anything other than Nuzlocke. But the absolute WORST part of the modern nuzlocker is EV training/stat exp. Maxing your stats PERFECTLY makes things super boring to watch. "monferno 1shot all of roark's pokemon" No shit it did, you maxed its attack evs. In Marriland days, he trained Chimchar as you normally would. On the trainers getting to Orburgh City, getting the evs you'd naturally get. And yes, he'd do SOME exp grinding in the late game for Elite Four or high level gym leaders, but it was mostly a "what gives highest exp" thing, as opposed to "what will give me the best evs for the job". Jaiden didn't fight all those marril BECAUSE it gave HP evs, she did it because its a water type that Magneton could easily kill. I just really miss the personal feel of nuzlockers like Marilland.
What an amazing video! Huge props for the research, the skript and the editing, this is just on another level. For the video - that's exactly what I love about Pokemon. It brings people together. Such a treat, being able to witness this YT/Nuzlocke journey.
Incredible video! As someone who first started to exist on the internet in general because of Nuzlockes, really like how the Nuzlocke Forums were brought up as it was the very first online community that I joined. Kind of wished that they were covered a bit more with Written Stories and Screenshot Runs, though a lot of screenshot runs from the early days are missing their screenshots due to image hosting sites going down. But then again, it's nice to see that the forums were brought up at all! Fun fact: 0:21 I did the video in the top left! Never expected myself to technically be in a Wolfey wideo
I was in Jan's chat for both of his E4 runs, 77 and 151. Absolutely brutal loss at 77, and damn both the Ludicolos, but the elation in 151 was intense and relief was palpable. Truly something that I won't forget in a long time.
Wolfe~ you’ve been leveling up so much. It’s so great to see. The quality and marketing tactics are A+. I see you adding a popular video at the final seconds of the sponsor cut away. As people are reengaging. Love to see it
I was thinking “ No way I’m watching a 40min video on the History of Nuzlockes. And here I am 40 mins later. An absolute banger of a video. Much love Wolfey ❤
This video from all the shoutouts and all the well articulated information was incredible and I’ve learned a lot about nuzlocks, and being able to say I was around for some of the big moments like Jan beating emerald Kaizo is super awesome to look back on.
For me my first experience watching a nuzlocke was through TheKingNappy circa 2014. Loud, bombastic and charismatic humour was a treat to watch in the mornings before high school. Leading me to channels like Shady, GB Luke and HoodlumScrafty (went under a name change, can’t remember it off the top of my head). It was around this time I was nearly ready to leave the franchise, and whilst Nappy has a problematic past attached to him, I have to thank him for bringing love back into the franchise for me through the nuzlocke and let’s plays
Minor correction that I'm sure someone else has made: The original Nuzlocke ended in a party wipe at Champion Steven. It was only with the sequel, FireRed: Hard Mode, that the OG trainer won the Pokemon League.
Indeed. He lost Dogen the Medicham to Glacia's Walrein using Sheer Cold. Then, Mr. Humpy the female Camerupt fell to Drake's Salamence. The Steven battle began well, besides losing Hariyama to Armaldo. When Metagross came in, he had Absol use Perish Song. This was the only way he could even stand a chance at winning. Absol then died to Meteor Mash. Next was Katie the Walrein, who died to Earthquake. His final Pokémon was Sceptile. If Sceptile could live the turn, he would win. Then Metagross used Hyper Beam.
I remember years ago watching Jaiden's video for the first time, i even grew attached to Sparky who died to Metagross. That hit hard, and man the joy when i saw the ending of the Nuzlocke... That encouraged me to try attempting my own Nuzlocke. Rn i am researching what i need to know before i attempt my first full playthrough. Nuzlockes bring people together, which is really special. Thanks for making this, it was awesome to see the beginning of something very special.
It's always a treat to see Pokemon TH-camrs and Streamers taking on Nuzlockes and can't wait to see what other new challenge come in the future that becomes even harder than a Hardcore Nuzlocke!
Great video! I think the exclusion of nappy and the primetime group aside from luke, shady and a brief clip from jay is a necessary exclusion but it feels like a massive part of this video is missing. Additionally the first nuzlocke on youtube was actually done by BlackLightAttack with his fire red nuzlocke done on the TGN youtube channel. Beats haydunn out by about a month, so not a super important distinction but it felt right to mention. Again great video i hope you do more stuff like this.
I used to read a lot of nuzlocke stuff from this ancient forum. Telling a nuzlocke run through screenshots and a comment per screenshot was extremely common. However after a few years those screenshots from 10+ old runs were lost, which makes it look like they were only a few vague comments and probably made wolfie confused at around 6:40
For being a "History of Nuzlockes" I'm absolutely amazed at how much was just left out of video. Everything before Jaiden's video seems like an afterthought. Pretty much none of the first wave of nuzlockes are talked about, with Marriland, MunchingOrange, Nappy (just becomes someone is a detestable person at best doesn't mean they should be left out of the history of something if they had a major impact on it), and BlackLightAttack being left out.
Hell, for me, the comics were even more inspiring. Hale: Emerald Hard Mode was amazing to me as a kid. Nuzlockes would have died off early on if not for the huge comics community. (I definitely agree with what you're saying, too)
Should’ve mentioned Projared and his amazing firered series in I think 2012/2013. For me, that started the nuzlocke hype, earlier than almost every example given in this video.
I can't believe I never saw mention in this video of the old hardcore nuzzlockes on forums back in the day. Stuff like "No mart, no pokemon centre, no items, no tms, release all but one pokemon after every gym." And then them claiming to bea it in two attempts.
Great video wolfey! I think you may have got the origin of the hardcore nuzlocke a tad wrong, though. It wasn’t classified as such, but I believe marriland implemented level caps and no items in his platinum nuzlocke a few years before pchal!
Yep, Jan definitely popularized the hardcore nuzlocke, as well as name it. He's definitely a big reason why it's so widespread today. Marriland was undoubtedly the first to use the rules set though.
Really cool to see/remember some of the early days of nuzlocke back reading the original comics, constantly checking each morning if he uploaded, then seeing all the spawns of the original comics, especially ppl like freddy223. Absolute nostalgia seeing some names here.
Awesome video Wolfey. Got to say tho that Marrilands videos got me into nuzlockes which is basically all I play now as it relates to Pokémon. He brought a ton of emotion and story into a game that made the game feel unique to him even if he was just the base game we had played so many times. Plus I got to say that although he didn’t seem it a “hardcore nuzlocke,” his platinum nuzlocke was. No items, set, and no overleveling. His videos were a really great intro into nuzlocke as for people in the early to mid 2010s. Also shout out to Black Light Attacks lead green nuzlocke. I think it came out in 2011 and was one of the number one Pokémon video series at the time. Might be rhe funniest video series I’ve ever watched.
There's tyranitar tube's extreme nuzlocke series, pretty popular with a custom story and shadow mons, etc... Worth the mention, one of the best out there
Twitch plays Pokemon also brought more viewers into live-streamed Pokemon and further boosted the idea of building stories around the team members. It's awesome to have a video like this to archive history. Good work team! Also, Hardcore Emerald Kaizo Deathless has been beaten!
Yeah, it’s not a “complete history” by any stretch. Way too much focus on modern stuff/“big names.” Also the extreme focus on Jaiden relative to her impact.
@@Zorua3 Relative to her impact? No one has made nuzlocking more popular than her. Nuzlocke content before and after has even come close to the popularity of her videos. She absolutely deserves a mention, and you're being disingenuous to imply otherwise.
Griffin McElroy's nuzlocke on Polygon 6 years ago was my first exposure to a nuzlocke, way before it took off. Honestly one of the funniest, dramatic, and accessible nuzlocke series to a newbie
I remember being on Deviantart Forums all the time reading new nuzlocke comics that were being published, waiting for the next episodes eagarly. I even started my own, though only got four pages or so of them out xD!!! This video's made me really want to dust out one of the gen7 games and give it a reset to locke, since I haven't completed one since gen6. Thank you for your hard work on this!
Great video overall, I feel like TyranitarTube's extreme series should have been mentioned, it was my first perosnal time hearing of a nuzlcoke, and its one of the more well known nuzlockes out there
Great video, but I do want to add to the small echo that I noticed on the comments: the lack of mentions to Marriland's content and the fact that he did use the 'hardcore nuzlocke' rules before the term was coined for wide audience use. Just something that I feel that could have been deep-dived further. The +15 minutes wouldn't have killed the pacing. I used to love watching a whole lot of Nuzlocke videos, read on the forums and check for webcomics but none of those really get the 'feel' that I've had while bingewatching all those Marriland playlists over and over again when the real world has been a dark place for me. (it still is, not getting over it) Now, I can maybe survive watching three minutes into a hardcore nuzlocke video until they bring up "I'm gonna EV train him-" Nope. I click out and move on. Not interested in statistics and maths that I do on the clock daily. I agree that with the open-world pokemon it's really hard to determine the "1 pokemon per route and *has to be* 1st pokemon" rule that most older stories had, but even that comes down to planning ahead, which most of the content creators seem to do anyway. So, idk... am I being old and picky? Yes. But I remember playing side-by-side several Nuzlocke playlists with my own game and enjoying it a whole lot more than just playing it on my own.
It’s an honor to be considered part of history in a game and community I love so much :’)
Incredible video Wolfey!!!!
Yup you're apart of game history Jaiden.
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J A I D E N !
How's teriyaki doing!!!
I still remember coming home from school and checking every day if there was a new chapter of the Nuzlocke comic.
Turns out I was onto something lol
Also massive shoutout to ExcoessivelyAve who was the only other person doing Nuzlockes regularly on Twitch when I started. A huge part of my initial small community were people that had come over from collaborating with him and he's still a fantastic friend today.
This video was a great walk down memory lane :)
Not surprised to see the probably best nuzlocker in the world here
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Bat chest, so based
TH-cam comment, based
I still check up on it from time to time... but it's been like 5 years now I think. It's a shame too, I remember when the author had Pokemon Hardmode, Speedrun and Space Cat running at the same time. Feels like ages ago now. Still tho, maybe after a long hiatus they'll return someday. Afterall, this is all happening for a reason.
Appreciate the shout out my friend 🙏 honored to part of history. This video was amazing, the editing and work put into this is next level
You deserve it I papa
You deserve the shoutout. Remember watching you back then in high school and it seemed so rare to find Pokémon series
A true OG
YOURE THE FUCKING GOAT HAYDUNN
You deserve it man, you're an OG
seeing all of these old thumbnails, especially of my own nuzlockes really took me back, it’s so cool to be a part of the nuzlocke history alongside so many of my friends and peers.
sick video wolfe, keep it up 🙏
Hey luke, love the vids
This was incredible. So glad to see how far nuzlocking has come. It truly is something special. Thanks for making this project possible
omg my goat
The Muhammad Ali of Nuzlockes graces us with his presence.
Thanks for all your help!
@@Cardb33 if he’s Muhammad Ali who is jan
@@jpshy1130 Logan Paul
Really humbled to be included here. Shadylocke holds a special place in my heart, even more so now. ❤
I watched the whole video twice now, another banger, Wolfe!
love your content shady,, i was very excited to see you featured here
Crazy, I remember watching that original shadylocke all those years ago. Amazing to see how far you've come
Your soul link with the king who must not be named was the reason why I fell inlove with pokemon all over again.
Shady da GOAT
Well deserved Mr. Penguinn
Wolfey has become the unofficial Professor Oak of the game in real life. Extremely knowledgeable, fills a compendium of Poke-info, insanely skilled at the game. Beyond champion.
I'd throw JWittz in the running as well
It’s cuz he has the WORLD CHAMP DIFFERENCE
He's gonna start asking everyone if they are a boy or a girl
@@TheShardsFamily gonna ask people what his grandson’s name is
All I’m saying is JWittz and Gnoggin might be in there…
Also Wolfey needs to hire a 10 year old to do his work for him before becoming officially a professor
I can't believe I just got exposed like that LMFAO 10:00 i'll never live this down
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Major props to Jan for ditching college to be a Pokémon master
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Just like in the games
Did he? I thought he's a graduating traffic engineering student tho (?)
Not really a master with those bad takes lmao
slight correction: first hardcore nuzlocke was actually done by marriland back in 2013 in his platinum nuzlocke with the exact same rules as those used in modern hardcore nuzlockes. It definitely wasn't called that at the time though
I do feel amiss not bringing up Mariland in the history of the nuzloke he is not making much content today, but he made some of the most fun nuzlokes I've ever watched. It was what got me and many others into nuzloking.
He was the inventor of the wedlocke which is a staple nuzloke variant today and was very popular during the 2010's.
Anyway, I just want to bring him up as apart of the history, since, at least for me, he was very important.
Don't forget that he also used the "hardcore nuzlocke" rule format, before it was even called the "hardcore nuzlocke" for his pokemon platinum nuzlocke.
This. Marriland was so big and influential back in the day, it's a shame he wasn't done justice in this nevertheless amazing video. You just need to look at how much fanart he received of the pokemon he used in each run to understand his magnitude.
Definitely
Plus Marriland was the “first” Pokemon content creator having a full walkthrough of gen 4 back in 2006. He was making videos for his website to provide free guides through the games. Later on, he dive into content creating until around a year before the pandemic which he decided to go back to his roots of focusing on his website.
He was burned out of making videos as many wanted Nuzlockes which he doesn’t enjoy making anymore. He’s also a traditionalist refusing to do any game breaking mechanics on games so any rom hacks or cheats are a no go to him. He plays with official copies of the games.
Seriously as good as this video is Marriland was an instrumental part of why nuzlockes got so big at the end of the day so I just wish I got the recognition he deserves fr
The Nuzlocke community has come so far since the early days of live Pokemon content, i'm honored that I could be a small part of history.
People like Jan, Haydunn, Shady, Drew, and many others continue to inspire me. Can't wait to see where Nuzlockes go next!
Wolfey’s script writing and comedy are so good. “The plan was simple” at 36:30 is such a sly little reference and gave me a good chuckle, and that’s just one of many such moments
When you skip a step...
i only just realised this! incredible reference
To what
@@marmato9332 He’s talking about Ludwig’s run, and Ludwig’s intro and catchphrase for a while was “Boys! The plan is simple!”
As somebody who read the original Pokemon hard mode on release, it's amazing to see how far it's come.
I love how even this video has jaiden in the thumbnail because any nuzlocke content has to have it
Well, I mean yeah. Have you seen the amount of views those nuzlockes get? Add on the fact that her channel seems to have a consistent viewer base and this just seems like a smart choice.
Honestly, I’d argue that using her in the thumbnail makes sense from a video perspective as well. Being as widely viewed as they are with a story-focused style to them I feel emphasizes the point.
The only thing that would make sense would be to replace her with some Nuzleaf theme.
@@atlat412 From a theming perspective maybe, it was Jaiden's first nuzlocke, but nuzlocke content has been around before that vid came out. I doubt it's the first one, but the first time I saw nuzlocke content on youtube was from a dude named Blacklightattack wayyy back in 2011 on a channel called TGN.
Pokémon Challenges and many others entered the chat
@@atlat412 it was kinda a joke because obv she should be in the video that video basically pioneered the nuzlocke community we know today
@@jpshy1130 Oh no, I knew it was a joke from you. I just felt overanalyzing it for no reason.
Amazing video! Only thing that makes me a bit sad is the lack of mention of Mariland because he was the only person I remember doing nuzlock type content for a chunk of time there. He may not have been the best or the biggest, but he was really consistent for a huge chunk of time when there weren't as many others
Mariland basically invented Wedlockes, didn't he?
@@sparkywoofwoofUKHe actually did. And arguably, the first Hardcore Nuzlocke as well. His Platinum Nuzlocke had a level cap, no items from the Bag could be used in battle except for Poké Balls, and he played on Set Mode.
Correction: The first Nuzlocke comic, the Ruby Hard Mode, actually ended with a wipe to Steven. This lead directly into the more story driven Fire Red Nuzlocke, where things REALLY ramped up.
And the dead White nuzlocke
IKR?
I really don't like how he just glimpsed over the comic
@@TheOneAndOnlyP6didn’t he say because the comic is problematic now lol
@@mcnalga I know. Haven't reread the comic for like 10 years but I don't remember any problematic stuff besides some edgy internet humor from the time. Also calling it a bad drawn comic specially after the start of fire red is so disingenuous in my opinion.
For people who can see this, I would personally recommend reading the original nuzlocke comic alongside the fire red comic made after it. As long as you go into it knowing there will be dated humor and are okay with that, it's a fun read to see where nuzlockes all started!
Yeah, Wolfey was out of line for saying what he did.
It should be noted how important Marilland was in that first wave of Nuzlocke playthroughs on TH-cam
His Platinum Nuzlocke was probably the first well documented hardcore Nuzlocke.
@@prometheustv6558True. Set Mode? Check. Level limit? Check. No items from the Bag in battle? Check. All of which can be found in Hardcore Nuzlocke today.
@@heinzdoofenshmirtz8643 that’s probably where Jan got it from
It sucks to see how little was actually represented for the pre-Jaiden era of nuzlocking. No Marriland, MunchingOrange, Hardyt3kyoyo. A lot of the early nuzlocking examples are mainly limited to Poketubers who are still relevant today while some of the other big names back then are left to be forgotten. Love all the detail for post-Jaiden era though. I assume xProuty being the first to beat EK deathless happened too late to appear.
Marriland's x and y wedlocke was one of my favorites!!!
god hardyt3kyoyo... i haven't heard that name in years. i used to love his videos too, i'm glad to see him mentioned here :')
It’s also worth mentioning BlackLightAttack although he wasn’t exclusively a Pokétuber.
yeah im kind of amazed how quickly the 2010s deviantart comic era got passed over! can't blame wolfey because he probably wasnt really aware of those communities but there were a lot of classic nuzlocke comics that were instrumental in spreading interest of the format before youtube really picked up the topic.
Tyranitartube as well, I'm surprised that his extreme randomizers were never mentioned despite that Alpha Sapphire Extreme easily could have fit into the rom-hacks or kaizo section.
Love the whole bit about Shady; he's one of the all time greats. He (and someone who must not be named) really established what Nuzlockes were for a while. They also put the soul link on the map. I think an interesting tidbit a lot of people don't know is that the Soul Link was conceived as a two player version of Marriland's Wedlocke.
Yeah I'm disappointed they didn't mention this, it's a dark time for the community that almost killed the whole genre.
@@SoGVerruckt explain?
@@stonalisa3729 I don't want to give the person notoriety, but they got in trouble for alleged grooming. They were the largest poketuber at the time. That incident caused the downfall of almost every Poke/nuz channel popular at the time because they all had some drama in this.
Im sad but not suprised that he didnt talk about the Core 4
Yes! I got to know nuzlocks thanks to them, unfortunately all the drama almost ended everything. But the first soul links were so fun!
im a little disappointed no mention of marriland?? he made the wedlockes and his nuzlockes were unique, kinda like jaidens video but it wasn't animated it was done while playing, he added a memorial montage after each death and it was nuzlocking done with respect and friendships with his pokemon. definetly up there with patterrz and jaiden
Plus, he did a Hardcore Nuzlocke before Hardcore Nuzlocke was even a thing. His Platinum Nuzlocke had a level limit, no items from the bag in battle apart from Poké Balls, and Set Mode. All of which are rules in a Hardcore Nuzlocke.
TyranitarTube is the goat, his extreme playthroughs are what introduced me to nuzlockes
The Nuzlocke forums were an integral part of my childhood. Those edited screenshot runs were peak Pokémon storytelling. Though the FlygonHGs and PokemonChallenges of our day are the best in the sense of gaming challenges, there's just something so nostalgic about those screenshot runs. Where everything happened for a reason.
Best fun I ever had on the internet was getting to admin the nuzlocke forums in its very early years.
Pokemon challenges that are popular now dont really have the emotional connection with their teams anymore
This was an incredible retrospective! The only thing I felt wasn't represented well enough was the impact of Nuzlocke comics, specifically those done by Kylee-nim. Myths of Unova got me hooked on the concept of a Nuzlocke, and her rich world-building and incredible art really raised the bar for what a narrative Nuzlocke comic could be. And she was working on it while in Med School! She even created one of the more well-known Fakemon in that comic, Vahirom, a possible idea for what the Tao Trio may have looked like as one Pokemon. Her hard work and dedication to her Nuzlocke and her comic shouldn't be forgotten or overlooked. She's even to this day publishing pages of a sequel comic based on a run she did in B2W2!
Dude her comic was what got me into nuzlocking after reading ruby hard mode, sad to see that the most popular early forum content was mostly skipped over for more recent but wolfe definitely had more to talk about with things he was involved in. Just wish that the early community got its flowers.
Oh man I remember this comic! The art and story were so good! I fell off reading nuzlocke comics before it concluded so I'll have to go back and read it at some point.
This. I know nuzlockes have been a thing you stream for a decade or so but to me the true "medium" for a nuzlocke is as a webcomic. I feel like they lose something without an original main character and added subplots which was standard practice back then
exactly! webcomics! there's a handful I really enjoyed I made a few back in the day. Myth's of Unova, I gotta go back and read BW comics are my fave.
Pettyartist (Gen 1 and Gen 2), Yindragon (Kick @SS Firered mode), Landwalker's Yellow Nuzlocke, a few i used to read.
There's one for a Sinnoh nuzlocke that makes me laugh all the time, the true goat for DelelelWoop, a cherim destorying things with solar beam, and a ref to pokemon quartz with that ugly baro mon. (looked it up its called Babos). that one made me laugh every page, if only I can find it. ;__;
It’s wild how detailed this was and there’s still so much that could be covered.
I was around the deviantart nuzlocking comic community in the early 2010s and that was a whole thing, and what originally got me inspired to Nuzlocke.
Marriland’s Wedlockes also probably could have had their own section in Nuzlocking history, that felt like one of the big variants to first get popularized and actually played?
And while covered in the rom hacks section to an extent, it’s fascinating what optimizations have been made for each game. Like even simple ones like how powerful Guts Raticate/Swellow can be or how Linoone can be made into a consistent E4 sweeper in Emerald. We all probably started by playing mostly normally and not planning too far ahead and now the community’s play has been really pushed to a high level as we all got better and communities continued to grow.
nuzlocke at first: makes the pokemon die to make the bond with them more appreciated
nuzlocke nowadays: *proceeds to make an explosion team because is the best strategy*
This is mostly becouse lvl caps
I was there when Nuzlocke draw his first comic and I loved the message board he builded up. Found some cool people from all around the world there to talk with. I really miss that time.
This video is some serious Marriland erasure - they not only made the Wedlocke but created some of the first, most popular Nuzlocke series on TH-cam! Great video though as always.
Also his Platinum Nuzlocke was probably the first hardcore nuzlocke
This video is such a nostalgia blast. It got me so emotional.
Great job, and amazing editing as always !
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This made me so proud to be a part of the community. This video was INCREDIBLE, and I learned so much new lore about something that's become so special to me.
Nuzlockes are the very essence of nostalgia for me. Back in 2012 I loved Nate and Dookie’s Pokémon Soul Silver nuzlocke. My best friend and I did all sorts of competitive “1 v 1 nuzlockes” inspired by them, where we’d battle after every gym and whoever wins more battles wins the nuzlocke competition (or, if you lose the run the other guy wins). We did this for every Pokémon game we owned, and it’s just such a fun time to look back on
There used to be some flowcharts back in the day when nuzlocke webcomics were popular that explained a lot of the rules before they became popular (Like No pkmn centers, no healing, no shopping and some others) and I remember them seeing them a lot myself.
When Hardcore Nuzlockes became a thing, it always reminds me that flowchart was there and i found it kinda funny that it existed even so early on.
This was such a cool video and so well edited too, good job!
I got into nuzlockes by watching Marilland play through Emerald, Platinum, and Heart Gold as a kid!! Awesome history video man - its extremely nostalgic looking back at all of these historical events :)
His run of Platinum was Hardcore Nuzlocke before that was even a thing. Level limit? Check. No items from the Bag in battle except Poké Balls? Check. Set Mode? Check.
I remember watching Jan at work during the finale. It was one of those moments you’ll just remember forever.
I remember starting to watch nuzlockes way back in 2013-2014 and it's so cool to see how they stuck around and grew so much until now! It was so much cool internet content that came and went so fast that it's easy to lose track of the big picture, thank you so much Wolfe for doing this documentation, all this cool history deserves to be remembered
29:21 Made me laugh so hard, the random sans reference and Wolfe wheezing like a tire pump is such an hilarious combination
I created a Nuzlocke Variant myself and played it to some extent: Lololocke. My nickname is Lolo, so that's why. It's basically a Hardcore Nuzlocke with two extra rules: I can get an extra "static" encounter per area where it applies (gift, interactable, etc), and I can change my team only ONCE PER CHECKPOINT. The checkpoints are the level caps set for the challenge, like gyms and such. If a pokémon dies in between checkpoints, I can box/release it and use that empty slot to capture a new pokémon (following all the previous rules) and add it immediately to the party. It's hard to play this way, but the challenge is so nice.
Oh that's interesting, so you almost have to commit to your team for the next gym leader way in advance. Might not be so bad in the early game, but when you have to deal with the "evil team" of the game before you can make it to the next gym, suddenly a lot more planning is required.
Cool idea!
Duuude, I remember Haydunn! His content was great, love to see he's still doing stuff.
And Jaiden's Ruby Nuzlocke is so iconic. Crazy to think so many people didn't know how Nuzlocke was derived from the Ruby Hard Mode comic, this was such a fantastic video Wolfey, definitely a must watch for anyone even remotely interested in the Nuzlocke side of Pokemon.
I just love how the original era of Nuzlockes emphasizes so much on bonding with unfamiliar pokemons and their deaths becoming so emotionally draining for the players to the GODLIKE-level of gameplay of hardcore nuzlockes where every pokemon is just a tool for the player to clear the challenge. you can catch a pokemon, name it something, feed it steroids, and have it explode on the gym leader's ace just so you can clear it easier, or sack a pokemon that you've spent so much time with away in order to save another pokemon that's going to be more useful in the next gym.
Fun fact. I was first introduced to Nuzlockes from a webcomic called “Myths of Unova”. And I absolutely loved it.
14:15 „…instead let‘s talk about the other most important thing that happened in 2016“
The fact that he didn‘t even reference whoever won worlds that year betrays a level of humbleness I cannot hope to attain.
wow, what a flashback after seeing marriland popping up then doing a wedlocke since he was doing one, damn time fly so fast
I love this video, because it is about a community that I have been a part of for the longest time. I'm so happy to see a deep-dive history lesson of this beautiful community.
It not only allowed me to see how Pchal had grown to become one of the pioneers of Nuzlocking, not only allowed me to see some pf the forst Nuzlocking videos from creators that I had never seen (and might watch later for my own free time), but I think most importantly, this video truly opened my eyes to how important the smaller pro Nuzlockers were (with some even helping bigger streamers).
I appreciate the many Nuzlockers that had come to create this fantastic video :)
"Incredibly Haydunn is still making great Pokémon content today" you damn right he is wolf, you damn right.
Dude he’s the GOAT, I name all of my Pokémon after his. My favorite still is Joint the Raticate with a flame orb 😂
As many others have said. Marriland was actually a huge bump in the Nuzlocke play style gaining variety
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Yes. He invented Wedlocke. And his Platinum Nuzlocke was Hardcore Nuzlocke before that was a thing. Level limit? Check. No items from the Bag in battle except for Poké Balls? Check. Set Mode? Check.
Great video as they have been recently. Really well researched and detailed.
I would dispute the hardcore nuzlockes origins with Pokemon Challenges. Marriland was using those rules for his 2013 Platinum Nuzlocke run. But Jan was the first to popularize these rules.
Interesting. Guess they were no longer notorious since it wasn't brought up
@@blazechaos212 Well tbh I don't think Marilland's nuzlocke is nearly as well remembered as his creation of the Wedlocke. And it was never called the hardcore nuzlocke
the marriland erasure!
I personally remember reading IN REAL TIME the original Nuzleaf Locke from Lost comic with my brother. We were in different parts of the country at the time and spoke on the phone for hours a day, and this was one of our favorite things to bond over, but any time I tried I would give up bc I am a Pokémon hoarder and never reset my files or release anything, perfect Pokémon Box, Bank and Home customer right here, whereas my brother would do them all the time. We've had lifelong nicknames for Pokémon like Explodio for drifblims and DLUX for Luxrays born from those early attempts we did
I’ve been so invested in Nuzlockes from a long long time ago, I remember watching Haydunn doing his first Nuzlocke and being gripped by it. It’s a shame the story telling has been lost over time but it makes sense. What a great video 👍🏻
It's soooooo crazy how I, as someone who has watched Pokemon SINCE 2012 on YT, I experienced this all. Especially as a fan of Shady, I didn't even know that he started the ball rolling like that. But I remember SO many people had Nuzlocke variants (especially Egg lockes were massive then).
Feels wild being IN that all that history but not noticing it. I can only imagine how this is gonna feel when I see a history book later and talks about 2020 etc lmao.
As someone who's been part of the nuzlocking community since it's inception, I can't help but feel as though wolfey completely glossed over so much of the history in favour of youtuber clout.
You’re absolutely right. Labeling this as a complete history is totally disingenuous.
BlackLightAttack's Leafgreen Nuzlocke on TGN was huuuge back then, well edited for the time and came before Haydunn's. He's definitely the first person who did the border to show your team/badges through the whole thing
Yes! BlackLightAttack's leafgreen nuzlocke was awesome!!
Amazing video! I was really hoping you’d talk about TyranitarTube’s Extreme Randomizer Nuzlocke series. They’re modded version of main series games that have a completely brand new stories, characters and sometimes even Pokémon. They’re some of my favorites, but just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to different types of Nuzlockes.
Same, I feel ttar got left out 😢
4:41
Wolfey: “the bar for being considered hilarious was a lot lower”
also wolfey: **FART JOKE**
Love the Haydunn shoutout. This channel aside, he’s always had my favorite Pokémon content on this site, and it’s so great to see him still making content to this day.
I really miss the era where deaths still meant something to most people on emotional levels, and not just feeling sad because of losing a number in an army.
Yeah. I've been watching Flygon hd and this video made me realize the whole "Name your pokemon to build a bond" is basically out the window.
I remembere when I did my B2 nuzlocke, when my leavanny died I cheated and brought her back (every time) because I was so attached
Yeah the early days had more of a narrative/emotional feel to it. It as your Nuzlocke journey. No, it's more much of just a gameplay challenge which is cool but doesn't seem as interesting to me.
Nuzlockes used to be personal. You would catch your randomly found teammates, train train them on the wild and trainer pokemon, as you would in any other playthrough, and strategize with what you got to beat the gym leaders.
In the Marilland days, we grew attached to Fries the Linoone, Peach the Primeape, Ninjarisu the Pachirisu, etc. He treated it like a playthrough or LP. so we would get constant episodes, getting to go on the journey with him, always worried one of our favourite members could die.
But now, its so formulatic. with the "1 video" format, we cant grow attached to team members. its just another catch. With mono type runs, we already know all the mons they're gonna use. No surprises like Kroma getting Dunsparce in Dark Cave, or Marriland being stuck with Pachirisu over Ralts.
(Not to mention, it breaks the "first encounter rule", becasue unless two of that type are on a route, you are just running away from encounters until u get the only 1 of that type. You aren't doing a nuzlocke at this point. its a Mono run with permadeath)
Also, the "hard core nuzlocke" monicer is redundant. When i first heard it, i thought there'd be super extra hard rules, but its the exaxt same rules Marriland had been doing from Platinum onward, and he never called it anything other than Nuzlocke.
But the absolute WORST part of the modern nuzlocker is EV training/stat exp. Maxing your stats PERFECTLY makes things super boring to watch. "monferno 1shot all of roark's pokemon" No shit it did, you maxed its attack evs. In Marriland days, he trained Chimchar as you normally would. On the trainers getting to Orburgh City, getting the evs you'd naturally get. And yes, he'd do SOME exp grinding in the late game for Elite Four or high level gym leaders, but it was mostly a "what gives highest exp" thing, as opposed to "what will give me the best evs for the job". Jaiden didn't fight all those marril BECAUSE it gave HP evs, she did it because its a water type that Magneton could easily kill.
I just really miss the personal feel of nuzlockers like Marilland.
Honestly wish Marriland got a bit more recognition in this video
What an amazing video!
Huge props for the research, the skript and the editing, this is just on another level.
For the video - that's exactly what I love about Pokemon. It brings people together. Such a treat, being able to witness this YT/Nuzlocke journey.
There was a really amazing guy i loved watching. Marriland. I was hooked to some of his nuzlockes and wedlockes
Incredible video!
As someone who first started to exist on the internet in general because of Nuzlockes, really like how the Nuzlocke Forums were brought up as it was the very first online community that I joined. Kind of wished that they were covered a bit more with Written Stories and Screenshot Runs, though a lot of screenshot runs from the early days are missing their screenshots due to image hosting sites going down. But then again, it's nice to see that the forums were brought up at all!
Fun fact: 0:21 I did the video in the top left! Never expected myself to technically be in a Wolfey wideo
I was in Jan's chat for both of his E4 runs, 77 and 151. Absolutely brutal loss at 77, and damn both the Ludicolos, but the elation in 151 was intense and relief was palpable. Truly something that I won't forget in a long time.
Wolfe~ you’ve been leveling up so much. It’s so great to see. The quality and marketing tactics are A+. I see you adding a popular video at the final seconds of the sponsor cut away. As people are reengaging. Love to see it
Ave's nuzlocke gauntlet was a blast to watch and was my real first exposure to nuzlockes along with the early Hardcore Nuzlockes
I was thinking “ No way I’m watching a 40min video on the History of Nuzlockes. And here I am 40 mins later. An absolute banger of a video.
Much love Wolfey ❤
This video from all the shoutouts and all the well articulated information was incredible and I’ve learned a lot about nuzlocks, and being able to say I was around for some of the big moments like Jan beating emerald Kaizo is super awesome to look back on.
Shout out to my boy Marriland - he created the Wedlocke and implemented a lot of those self imposed challenges before most
Yep. His Platinum Nuzlocke was a Hardcore Nuzlocke before Hardcore Nuzlocke was a thing.
Marriland was my childhood nuzlocke introduction. His old teams are so memorable
For me my first experience watching a nuzlocke was through TheKingNappy circa 2014. Loud, bombastic and charismatic humour was a treat to watch in the mornings before high school. Leading me to channels like Shady, GB Luke and HoodlumScrafty (went under a name change, can’t remember it off the top of my head).
It was around this time I was nearly ready to leave the franchise, and whilst Nappy has a problematic past attached to him, I have to thank him for bringing love back into the franchise for me through the nuzlocke and let’s plays
Minor correction that I'm sure someone else has made:
The original Nuzlocke ended in a party wipe at Champion Steven. It was only with the sequel, FireRed: Hard Mode, that the OG trainer won the Pokemon League.
Indeed. He lost Dogen the Medicham to Glacia's Walrein using Sheer Cold. Then, Mr. Humpy the female Camerupt fell to Drake's Salamence. The Steven battle began well, besides losing Hariyama to Armaldo. When Metagross came in, he had Absol use Perish Song. This was the only way he could even stand a chance at winning. Absol then died to Meteor Mash. Next was Katie the Walrein, who died to Earthquake. His final Pokémon was Sceptile. If Sceptile could live the turn, he would win. Then Metagross used Hyper Beam.
I remember years ago watching Jaiden's video for the first time, i even grew attached to Sparky who died to Metagross. That hit hard, and man the joy when i saw the ending of the Nuzlocke... That encouraged me to try attempting my own Nuzlocke. Rn i am researching what i need to know before i attempt my first full playthrough. Nuzlockes bring people together, which is really special. Thanks for making this, it was awesome to see the beginning of something very special.
It's always a treat to see Pokemon TH-camrs and Streamers taking on Nuzlockes and can't wait to see what other new challenge come in the future that becomes even harder than a Hardcore Nuzlocke!
Some of the comics that have come out of the Nuzlocke community are so good, I particularly remember enjoying Myths of Unova!
Great video Wolfey :)
Great video! I think the exclusion of nappy and the primetime group aside from luke, shady and a brief clip from jay is a necessary exclusion but it feels like a massive part of this video is missing. Additionally the first nuzlocke on youtube was actually done by BlackLightAttack with his fire red nuzlocke done on the TGN youtube channel. Beats haydunn out by about a month, so not a super important distinction but it felt right to mention. Again great video i hope you do more stuff like this.
censoring history is never necessary. Rewriting history for any reason whatsoever is bad regardless of who is being erased
Damn. I made a couple comments. As many others have said Marriland was vital to the growth of lockes even though this video tries to leave him out.
Yep glazing over the comics and acting like pchal invented hardcore rules
I used to read a lot of nuzlocke stuff from this ancient forum. Telling a nuzlocke run through screenshots and a comment per screenshot was extremely common. However after a few years those screenshots from 10+ old runs were lost, which makes it look like they were only a few vague comments and probably made wolfie confused at around 6:40
36:30 I love the subtle reference to luds old intros where he would always say THE PLAN IS SIMPLE
For being a "History of Nuzlockes" I'm absolutely amazed at how much was just left out of video. Everything before Jaiden's video seems like an afterthought. Pretty much none of the first wave of nuzlockes are talked about, with Marriland, MunchingOrange, Nappy (just becomes someone is a detestable person at best doesn't mean they should be left out of the history of something if they had a major impact on it), and BlackLightAttack being left out.
Hell, for me, the comics were even more inspiring. Hale: Emerald Hard Mode was amazing to me as a kid. Nuzlockes would have died off early on if not for the huge comics community. (I definitely agree with what you're saying, too)
Feels like a "history of my youtube account recommending nuzlockes"
Seeing the king Haydunn in the video was awesome!
Should’ve mentioned Projared and his amazing firered series in I think 2012/2013. For me, that started the nuzlocke hype, earlier than almost every example given in this video.
Probably because ProJared is "problematic" like the early days of internet humor, according to the 🤡 who made this video
I can't believe I never saw mention in this video of the old hardcore nuzzlockes on forums back in the day. Stuff like "No mart, no pokemon centre, no items, no tms, release all but one pokemon after every gym." And then them claiming to bea it in two attempts.
"Jan has risen in the ranks to be one of the best known nuzlockers"
immediately followed by
"Thank you Jan for giving me this information"
lol
I'm sure Wolfe probably put that him itself, but that's still funny as hell 😂
14:30 Jan’s reaction to this is going to be 11/10
Great video wolfey! I think you may have got the origin of the hardcore nuzlocke a tad wrong, though. It wasn’t classified as such, but I believe marriland implemented level caps and no items in his platinum nuzlocke a few years before pchal!
Yep, Jan definitely popularized the hardcore nuzlocke, as well as name it. He's definitely a big reason why it's so widespread today. Marriland was undoubtedly the first to use the rules set though.
Really cool to see/remember some of the early days of nuzlocke back reading the original comics, constantly checking each morning if he uploaded, then seeing all the spawns of the original comics, especially ppl like freddy223. Absolute nostalgia seeing some names here.
I was introduced to Nuzlockes by Team Four Star and seeing their playthrough at around 7:00 used for this video bought back some funny memories
Awesome video Wolfey. Got to say tho that Marrilands videos got me into nuzlockes which is basically all I play now as it relates to Pokémon. He brought a ton of emotion and story into a game that made the game feel unique to him even if he was just the base game we had played so many times. Plus I got to say that although he didn’t seem it a “hardcore nuzlocke,” his platinum nuzlocke was. No items, set, and no overleveling. His videos were a really great intro into nuzlocke as for people in the early to mid 2010s. Also shout out to Black Light Attacks lead green nuzlocke. I think it came out in 2011 and was one of the number one Pokémon video series at the time. Might be rhe funniest video series I’ve ever watched.
There's tyranitar tube's extreme nuzlocke series, pretty popular with a custom story and shadow mons, etc... Worth the mention, one of the best out there
No mention of Marriland was a huge misstep. Type in Nuzlocke and his videos show up.
I never imagined that Wolfey would be the one to do a Nuzlocke history video, but I'm also ok with it.
The editing in Wolfey’s videos have ascended to god-tier, seriously.
Twitch plays Pokemon also brought more viewers into live-streamed Pokemon and further boosted the idea of building stories around the team members. It's awesome to have a video like this to archive history. Good work team!
Also, Hardcore Emerald Kaizo Deathless has been beaten!
This is more of a: "History of nuzlockes in content creation" video
Yeah, it’s not a “complete history” by any stretch. Way too much focus on modern stuff/“big names.” Also the extreme focus on Jaiden relative to her impact.
@@Zorua3 Relative to her impact? No one has made nuzlocking more popular than her. Nuzlocke content before and after has even come close to the popularity of her videos. She absolutely deserves a mention, and you're being disingenuous to imply otherwise.
Griffin McElroy's nuzlocke on Polygon 6 years ago was my first exposure to a nuzlocke, way before it took off. Honestly one of the funniest, dramatic, and accessible nuzlocke series to a newbie
I remember being on Deviantart Forums all the time reading new nuzlocke comics that were being published, waiting for the next episodes eagarly. I even started my own, though only got four pages or so of them out xD!!! This video's made me really want to dust out one of the gen7 games and give it a reset to locke, since I haven't completed one since gen6. Thank you for your hard work on this!
You deserve more than 1 million Wolfey. I don’t understand how you still aren’t there after all the great content.
Less than 50k now, just realised
Absolutely loved this. Finally completed my first nuzlocke in December after watching so much content and using Jans strats.
Great video overall, I feel like TyranitarTube's extreme series should have been mentioned, it was my first perosnal time hearing of a nuzlcoke, and its one of the more well known nuzlockes out there
What a great history! I came to streaming during the pandemic and love watching these. It's cool to see the beginnings.
Great video, but I do want to add to the small echo that I noticed on the comments: the lack of mentions to Marriland's content and the fact that he did use the 'hardcore nuzlocke' rules before the term was coined for wide audience use. Just something that I feel that could have been deep-dived further. The +15 minutes wouldn't have killed the pacing.
I used to love watching a whole lot of Nuzlocke videos, read on the forums and check for webcomics but none of those really get the 'feel' that I've had while bingewatching all those Marriland playlists over and over again when the real world has been a dark place for me. (it still is, not getting over it) Now, I can maybe survive watching three minutes into a hardcore nuzlocke video until they bring up "I'm gonna EV train him-" Nope. I click out and move on. Not interested in statistics and maths that I do on the clock daily.
I agree that with the open-world pokemon it's really hard to determine the "1 pokemon per route and *has to be* 1st pokemon" rule that most older stories had, but even that comes down to planning ahead, which most of the content creators seem to do anyway. So, idk... am I being old and picky? Yes. But I remember playing side-by-side several Nuzlocke playlists with my own game and enjoying it a whole lot more than just playing it on my own.
Love that you added Kuru's Underground 2 Nuzzlocke for a second :D