Looking at the video you wired the motor into your power supply using the black and red wire. The two green wires are fastened together as a return wire which I presume is the earth feed. So where do you put your switch to make the motor work, and how do you wire the separate part into the point motor to change the electrofrog polarity? Ever considered making just one unit that does everything for those of us who are electrically challenged?
Great point motors got them fitted to every point on my layout also great to use them on ddc accessories address no issues with them would recommend them
Very neat fixing - The paper drilling template is a handy feature. Can details of the dimensions of this unit be added to complete the presentation? Hope PECO develop a servo with a ‘twist fit’ casing: as this would virtually silence the point actuator.
Very nice idea BUT as with regular Peco Switchs (PL10E) the drive pin isn't really long enough. For example 1/2 plywood base and 1/2 inch foam board with a cork road bed, the pin is too short. With heavier gauge wire (piano wire) this can be achieved. Yes it would most likely involve making the throw bar hole bigger as well. Tried to replace the wire and also tried adding an extension to it, both met with failures. It would have been nice to place mine under the table instead of having to cut out the foam and in some instances part of the plywood.
This video is all very well for builders of a new layout that have the opportunity to turn the baseboard over to make it easy to fit these items but I'd like to use these in place of the PL10 units I've got that jam with the accessory switch fitted, so I've got no option other than to roll around under the baseboard - with no guarantee that I can get an accurate fit, particularly as I can't use the template for track that's already fixed down.
Much easier than fiddling with PL10E and especially easier than trying to align the old double microswitches so they worked properly, However (there's always a "but") Why did Peco make them so large you can't use a pair on the SL-99 3 way point? 2 x PL1001 side by side have the pins at approx 32mm centres, whereas the point has the holes in the tiebars at 22.5mm centres. I think I must be missing something as I can't believe Peco would not make the new system truly universal, unless their design team was working on O gauge!
A video explaining how to wire up the microswitch with this would be great, as a newbie I cannot fathom what the instructions are trying to tell me. I’ve managed the basic wiring but can’t figure out the microswitch for switching polarity.
Looks great, a pity you can’t purchase them. Contacted Peco twice, advised they would be available before Christmas. Now available end of January. Why Peco wastes money on advertising this item and showing installation video when they aren’t available to purchase. Perhaps they meant Christmas 2020
Aren't the Peco PL10E wired different..I thought they had a 3 wire hookup or do you just join the 2 common wires together when you hook the 3 wires up to a Decoder so you can switch it with your command station. Are these better than the Peco PL10E ?
Thank you for your question.... the PL-10E doesn’t come fitted with wires, you have to attach them yourself. The new motor has the wires pre-attached and as you correctly say, you just join the 2 common/green wires together. The new motor is slightly more powerful than the PL-10, but it is mostly about the ease of assembly and use. We will continue to produce the PL-10 alongside the Twistlock motor.
@@ronk3031 Hi Ron, They are currently in the final stages of production and should reach shop shelves within the next month. Thank you for your interest.
@@PECOrailwaymodeller Thanks I will watch for them then! While I have your attention do you think PECO can make a video on how to hook up a Code 55 double cross over with 4 of these motors and wire it all including the frogs so it all will work? :) Just wondering as my DCC N scale layout plan has 6 double cross overs and I need to get it right. Thanks
Neat idea. One thought though, why not put the microswitch outputs on the side rather than the base, then you could stack them if you wanted to, for example, change frog polarity and a colour light signal feather direction indicator at the same time as well as a control panel route setting light? That little template seems to make fitting so much easier.
This could be a perfect solution of the Manufacturer of the switches: the microswitches, the plug'n'play etc. But, why didn't you use a servo instead of the solenoid??? You missed a big chance. Sorry! Even it might be a good product, it still makes "clonk-clonk" - and that to fast! Beste Grüße aus dem Salzburger Land Austria Stephan *Der-Küste-N-Bahner*
Clever design 👍 All we need now is some nice modern concrete points to go with the new modern motors.
What a great system, you couldn't really have made it any simpler, can't wait to get buying.
I'm also liking the micro switch. A big improvement on the old ones that you had to glue on, usually unsuccessfully!
Looking at the video you wired the motor into your power supply using the black and red wire. The two green wires are fastened together as a return wire which I presume is the earth feed. So where do you put your switch to make the motor work, and how do you wire the separate part into the point motor to change the electrofrog polarity? Ever considered making just one unit that does everything for those of us who are electrically challenged?
Great point motors got them fitted to every point on my layout also great to use them on ddc accessories address no issues with them would recommend them
Very neat fixing - The paper drilling template is a handy feature.
Can details of the dimensions of this unit be added to complete the presentation?
Hope PECO develop a servo with a ‘twist fit’ casing: as this would virtually silence the point actuator.
Very nice idea BUT as with regular Peco Switchs (PL10E) the drive pin isn't really long enough. For example 1/2 plywood base and 1/2 inch foam board with a cork road bed, the pin is too short. With heavier gauge wire (piano wire) this can be achieved. Yes it would most likely involve making the throw bar hole bigger as well. Tried to replace the wire and also tried adding an extension to it, both met with failures. It would have been nice to place mine under the table instead of having to cut out the foam and in some instances part of the plywood.
Please tell me if it works with Digikeijs DR4018. If it takes big current it may not work with it ? THANKS !
This video is all very well for builders of a new layout that have the opportunity to turn the baseboard over to make it easy to fit these items but I'd like to use these in place of the PL10 units I've got that jam with the accessory switch fitted, so I've got no option other than to roll around under the baseboard - with no guarantee that I can get an accurate fit, particularly as I can't use the template for track that's already fixed down.
Much easier than fiddling with PL10E and especially easier than trying to align the old double microswitches so they worked properly, However (there's always a "but") Why did Peco make them so large you can't use a pair on the SL-99 3 way point? 2 x PL1001 side by side have the pins at approx 32mm centres, whereas the point has the holes in the tiebars at 22.5mm centres. I think I must be missing something as I can't believe Peco would not make the new system truly universal, unless their design team was working on O gauge!
Wh......why are there TWO common green return wires on the motor though?
A video explaining how to wire up the microswitch with this would be great, as a newbie I cannot fathom what the instructions are trying to tell me.
I’ve managed the basic wiring but can’t figure out the microswitch for switching polarity.
Same here. The "instructions" for the microswitch is abysmal.
Can the pin not be moved in height so that cutting is not necessary?
Would PECO be able to provide printout guides for drilling the point motor holes or are they just supplied with this motor?
Looks like they are supplied with every motor.
@@junk52 Also you could just scan and print copies of it ( for your own use only of course )
Looks great, a pity you can’t purchase them. Contacted Peco twice, advised they would be available before Christmas. Now available end of January. Why Peco wastes money on advertising this item and showing installation video when they aren’t available to purchase. Perhaps they meant Christmas 2020
There was sadly a few delays in production, however, they are now on the way to shops as we speak
What power is it for the turnout motor? 12 VDC or 16 VAC?
Clever design electric motor! I also like your new track system Bullhead. Why is there no dealers in Sweden take home your products?
P.S. Your new electric motor will also works fine with the Märklins K-tracks turnout. It´s a good idea to test it.
Aren't the Peco PL10E wired different..I thought they had a 3 wire hookup or do you just join the 2 common wires together when you hook the 3 wires up to a Decoder so you can switch it with your command station. Are these better than the Peco PL10E ?
Thank you for your question.... the PL-10E doesn’t come fitted with wires, you have to attach them yourself. The new motor has the wires pre-attached and as you correctly say, you just join the 2 common/green wires together. The new motor is slightly more powerful than the PL-10, but it is mostly about the ease of assembly and use. We will continue to produce the PL-10 alongside the Twistlock motor.
@@PECOrailwaymodeller Sounds good thanks for the reply..I don't see anywhere one can buy said motors here in Canada though? Need a whole bunch of them
@@ronk3031 Hi Ron, They are currently in the final stages of production and should reach shop shelves within the next month. Thank you for your interest.
@@PECOrailwaymodeller Thanks I will watch for them then!
While I have your attention do you think PECO can make a video on how to hook up a Code 55 double cross over with 4 of these motors and wire it all including the frogs so it all will work? :) Just wondering as my DCC N scale layout plan has 6 double cross overs and I need to get it right. Thanks
I still can't get a release or availability date for these. They were due in December? Also an approximate price would be good .
I like the look of these, what sort of price range will they be in?
It looks far easier to fit than the old style point motor. I'm assuming that it's possible to use this with N gauge.
Thank you for your comment, yes it can be used on N-Gauge turnouts up to O-Gauge
Is there an N-gauge template to align the pin to the end of a tie bar?
Yes there will be a template that covers N, OO and O Gauge Turnouts
Neat idea. One thought though, why not put the microswitch outputs on the side rather than the base, then you could stack them if you wanted to, for example, change frog polarity and a colour light signal feather direction indicator at the same time as well as a control panel route setting light? That little template seems to make fitting so much easier.
Thank you for your comments.... noted and passed on.
If you have a central station it is waste of time by follow your theory.
Still not available.....I'm waiting!!
This looks pretty good ty. Can we please have a vid clip 'how to' on above the board mounting please. Especially the easy wiring.
オープニングソングが好きすぎる。
Probably gonna get a few next year
This could be a perfect solution of the Manufacturer of the switches: the microswitches, the plug'n'play etc. But, why didn't you use a servo instead of the solenoid??? You missed a big chance. Sorry! Even it might be a good product, it still makes "clonk-clonk" - and that to fast!
Beste Grüße aus
dem Salzburger Land
Austria
Stephan
*Der-Küste-N-Bahner*
simple wiring guide would be useful.
Clever...