These have been my go to guides for this tier. The simple animated style makes it much easier for my brain to understand what is going on. It's also been super amazing that you create updated guides!
I prefer your guides to pretty much every creators I've checked, the format works very well and you're not waffling for too long on one thing, it's super easy to follow and pin in your raid chans as a resource I really hope you stick to this with future tiers and content 'cause I think you're the hero PF needs!
these are the best guides man the amount of mechanics I managed to understand ... like TRULY understand is really amazing I hope I keep seeing more out of you in the future
Should have gone all in and said Donadoes. Thanks for all the guides, your style is really great and it helps to know what mechanics do rather than just how to resolve
I love your guides so much. My brain works better to understand the fight from this view and without all the glitz and glam of the actual fight on the screen xD THANK YOU
Thanks for the guide format, it's easy to reference. I love how the fight has uncannily similar yet executed differently mechanics from T12, Suzaku, and Aglaia since it's a failed firebird creation.
I want to applaud this format for your guides. They help me understand the mechanics a lot quicker and from multiple perspectives. Thank you for this! One thing that could take this to another level for me is some contextual footage for things like tells. You definitely have enough space in between explanations to include them
One small thing with fledgling flight aoe cones, they are about 90 degrees in size. Doesn't change any strats but the vid cone sizes implies you can stand directly in front of 1 add with 2 stacks of death's cone, which you can't as all 4 cones will hit in a large diamond area between them.
you are the only person who has any reference for the elmo strat that i have found but pf is religious about it and my static insists we learn the pf strats this tier. THANK. YOU. FOR. THIS.
I've met people who despise Elmo strat because of the risk of someone baiting two proteans at the group, but I've personally never had this happen. Glad you found this useful!
RE; Deaths Toll "This can be hard to heal up unless you have an astro..." Ah, now I see why our MT said "Roe will be the star of the show this fight." Nice.
There is a safer way to do Fountain of Fire that doesn't require anyone but the tanks to go centre. You cannot get two AOE's so if the tanks are centre to bait the first then move out, the melee only need be closer to the boss than the ranged to get theirs, and the ranged will be automatically targeted third as long as they are closer than the healers. As summoner I go to the place I am going to drop my AOE, and stand just back so I am in the healer circle when it spawns. I adjust to avoid the melee and the AOE automatically targets me third and I can just go to my spot when the melee's AOE goes off.
Gloryplume is normally done T/M, H/R, as the boss follows the main tank and so this allows all tanks and melees to get full uptime. T/R, H/M is usually only done for firestorms, as the boss stays do middle and so this split makes it much easier for the tanks and melees to keep uptime in the event of a spread.
How accurate is that donut size for the donadoes? If it's accurate, couldn't you use arm's/sure to ignore the KB (assuming arm's/sure works on that KB) next to the dark tornado? I haven't gotten to this point in the fight yet so I haven't tested it
Aggro from the small birds stays for the big birds. As long as the tanks do the small bird section with tank stance on, they will have an insurmountable aggro lead over any dps and healers. The only person who could possibly steal aggro: a tank with stance on.
@@starjadian Not at all! Tank stance gives a x10 multiplier to aggro built for the tank. As long as they've attacked each of their small birds a few times, they can turn their stance off for big birds and no one will be able to rip aggro from them.
While they may not kill outright depending on your gear, because the fire-rain is constantly doing damage, there's a decent chance that someone will die to the first tick of fire rain damage without quick heals or a few 10% mits.
Great guide! But can someone explain to me what the hell the PF descriptions mean? Like "t/h left, dps right, h/r south, t/m north, h/m right facing tornado, elmo" And the most common one I see "14, 23- MTR KB facing Nado TR-L, HM-R | Divebomb TH" If anyone can decipher this for me it would mean so much
Glad you found it useful. T/H left, DPS right - This is for the divebomb; facing the bird, tanks/healers spread left, DPS spread right (opposite of how it's shown in my guide) h/r south, t/m north - This is for experimental gloryplume. Exactly as shown in the guide, Healers and ranged head south for the shiva part and then spread/stack. Tanks/melees do the same in the north Elmo - This is the tank invuln strat for storms of asphodelos. Tanks take nearly every mechanic with invuln, while everyone else baits the final cleave from middle. MTR - order for fountain of fire, melees bait first, then tanks, then ranged KB facing Nado TR-L, HM-R - This is for the knockback at the end of darkblaze twister. If you're facing the tornado you're getting knocked back by, tanks and ranged rotate left for their knockback, healers and melees rotate right. Not 100% sure on the rest. I think 14,23 refers to darkened fire, but I don't understand what it's referring to.
@@HectorHectorson Thank you so much for the quick reply and explanation! As someone with no static, I feel a lot more comfortable going into PF knowing what those mean now lol
Is it possible to contact you somehow? I'd love to translate the guides to german, since the german community lacks some good guides/resources at such times
I totally get this. This fight is a huge jump up in difficulty from the first two and will definitely be a wall for a number of party finder groups. If you can keep powering through, the feeling of downing that bird is definitely worth it!
EDIT: Update: I've had the entire tier on farm for quite a while now. It wasn't so bad. Idk what I'm gonna do. It was hard enough to find a consistent group of people to do p1s and p2s without having that one fucking guy make a tiny mistake that wipes the groups. I just know that add phase is going to be a meme fest..
@@HectorHectorson furthest I’ve gotten is Fire Nado’s, but FoF continues to be a challenge just to get through because of the amount of coordination. The fight is way too brutal. If they could tone down the amount of full group mechanics that would be great. I don’t play for difficulty or challenge, I just want to have fun with my friends and get cool rewards, but wiping so late in the fight because of lag, minor mess ups, etc etc it just ruins the experience.
I wish they'd just tone it down just a *little* bit. Maybe I am naive, but I feel this fight has no business being as difficult as it is being the 3rd fight in the tier. It's incredibly defeating.
@@nickh5021 This entire tier was cleared on release day. It took 16 hours. I don't think we should be calling for nerfs. There is a *plethora* of less challenging content for more casual players, which is the vast overwhelming majority of the game.
PLEASE!! I'm SORRY! Your FoF section is ruining Party Finder! You need to (1) Show the entire thing with all roles (not just broken down), and (2) Show a Part B with the entire thing rotated clockwise because you seem to gloss over the fact this entire thing can happen two ways and it fucks people up!!
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"17:25 Cat" A difficult mechanic I find myself contending with often.
These have been my go to guides for this tier. The simple animated style makes it much easier for my brain to understand what is going on. It's also been super amazing that you create updated guides!
I appreciate that you do not rush through the mechanics and give each one enough explanation to understand the strat(s) and the mechanic itself.
I can not stress enough how much I loved this, thank you. And the boss icon kills me, it's so good
I prefer your guides to pretty much every creators I've checked, the format works very well and you're not waffling for too long on one thing, it's super easy to follow and pin in your raid chans as a resource
I really hope you stick to this with future tiers and content 'cause I think you're the hero PF needs!
I too struggle with the 17:24 Cat progression sometimes. 🐱
these are the best guides man
the amount of mechanics I managed to understand ... like TRULY understand is really amazing
I hope I keep seeing more out of you in the future
Should have gone all in and said Donadoes. Thanks for all the guides, your style is really great and it helps to know what mechanics do rather than just how to resolve
I love your guides so much. My brain works better to understand the fight from this view and without all the glitz and glam of the actual fight on the screen xD THANK YOU
Thanks for the guide format, it's easy to reference.
I love how the fight has uncannily similar yet executed differently mechanics from T12, Suzaku, and Aglaia since it's a failed firebird creation.
As usual your guides are my absolute favourite. The cat interruption is the cherry on the top tbh
I've watched about 6 different guides, and this is 100% the best IMO! Really great job explaining and images
I want to applaud this format for your guides. They help me understand the mechanics a lot quicker and from multiple perspectives. Thank you for this!
One thing that could take this to another level for me is some contextual footage for things like tells. You definitely have enough space in between explanations to include them
holy crap this guide is amazing please just do these forever lol
These guides are so good! Thank you for all the effort.
p.s. I heard you almost say "Donadoes" at 18:26 and now I can't unhear it. :D Mmm a tornado of donuts! Thanks again man!
Thank you!!!! We're going to start progging on this fight and my brain just won't let me process stuff so fast.
Love this guide, thanks so much for putting it together, makes it a LOT easier to understand.
i was so confused about fof before this guide thank you so much
Thanks for this Hector! Hoping to clear w/ my static this week!
Love these guides, definetely gonna use them, ty!
Amazing guide! Thank you so much!
Watching this before my first try at this duty in like an hour
This is the best way to my make a guide imo, gameplay just too much distraction to focus on what you actually need and know to do.
Thanks for making such a simple guide!
That was really clear, thanks mate!
One small thing with fledgling flight aoe cones, they are about 90 degrees in size.
Doesn't change any strats but the vid cone sizes implies you can stand directly in front of 1 add with 2 stacks of death's cone, which you can't as all 4 cones will hit in a large diamond area between them.
Bless you, angel!
Thanks
you are the only person who has any reference for the elmo strat that i have found but pf is religious about it and my static insists we learn the pf strats this tier. THANK. YOU. FOR. THIS.
I've met people who despise Elmo strat because of the risk of someone baiting two proteans at the group, but I've personally never had this happen. Glad you found this useful!
RE; Deaths Toll "This can be hard to heal up unless you have an astro..."
Ah, now I see why our MT said "Roe will be the star of the show this fight." Nice.
That's a mizzteq-tier pun.
when your cat meowed I thought it was mine so I paused the video to check on her lmao
I like how the tank Invul strat you cant even see both tanks when all the aoes overlap over them XD
There is a safer way to do Fountain of Fire that doesn't require anyone but the tanks to go centre. You cannot get two AOE's so if the tanks are centre to bait the first then move out, the melee only need be closer to the boss than the ranged to get theirs, and the ranged will be automatically targeted third as long as they are closer than the healers. As summoner I go to the place I am going to drop my AOE, and stand just back so I am in the healer circle when it spawns. I adjust to avoid the melee and the AOE automatically targets me third and I can just go to my spot when the melee's AOE goes off.
Hector, at 15:12 your pizza pie direction is wrong. You made it clockwise while the in-game mechanic is actually counter-clockwise.
Good catch! I must have coded the animation backwards. Hopefully it hasn’t confused too many people.
Wow this is so awesome 😎
may I ask why we split into T/R and H/M groups for gloryplume? thank you
Gloryplume is normally done T/M, H/R, as the boss follows the main tank and so this allows all tanks and melees to get full uptime.
T/R, H/M is usually only done for firestorms, as the boss stays do middle and so this split makes it much easier for the tanks and melees to keep uptime in the event of a spread.
Thanks for the detailed answer Hector! :)
Pretty nice. Good job :)
You need to start making guides with the markers people use in fights... all the fights have different markers and stacks from yours it's so annoying
How accurate is that donut size for the donadoes? If it's accurate, couldn't you use arm's/sure to ignore the KB (assuming arm's/sure works on that KB) next to the dark tornado? I haven't gotten to this point in the fight yet so I haven't tested it
Fairly accurate. I haven't tested whether arm's length works for this knockback, but that's definitely a possibility.
Thank you!!!
question wont dps or healer take aggro from the big adds if tanks turn off tank stance?
Aggro from the small birds stays for the big birds. As long as the tanks do the small bird section with tank stance on, they will have an insurmountable aggro lead over any dps and healers. The only person who could possibly steal aggro: a tank with stance on.
@@starjadian Not at all! Tank stance gives a x10 multiplier to aggro built for the tank. As long as they've attacked each of their small birds a few times, they can turn their stance off for big birds and no one will be able to rip aggro from them.
are the "hard hitting raidwides" in add phase like shining cells/slam shut/deluge where you need to shield the party?
While they may not kill outright depending on your gear, because the fire-rain is constantly doing damage, there's a decent chance that someone will die to the first tick of fire rain damage without quick heals or a few 10% mits.
Great guide! But can someone explain to me what the hell the PF descriptions mean? Like "t/h left, dps right, h/r south, t/m north, h/m right facing tornado, elmo" And the most common one I see "14, 23- MTR KB facing Nado TR-L, HM-R | Divebomb TH"
If anyone can decipher this for me it would mean so much
Glad you found it useful.
T/H left, DPS right - This is for the divebomb; facing the bird, tanks/healers spread left, DPS spread right (opposite of how it's shown in my guide)
h/r south, t/m north - This is for experimental gloryplume. Exactly as shown in the guide, Healers and ranged head south for the shiva part and then spread/stack. Tanks/melees do the same in the north
Elmo - This is the tank invuln strat for storms of asphodelos. Tanks take nearly every mechanic with invuln, while everyone else baits the final cleave from middle.
MTR - order for fountain of fire, melees bait first, then tanks, then ranged
KB facing Nado TR-L, HM-R - This is for the knockback at the end of darkblaze twister. If you're facing the tornado you're getting knocked back by, tanks and ranged rotate left for their knockback, healers and melees rotate right.
Not 100% sure on the rest. I think 14,23 refers to darkened fire, but I don't understand what it's referring to.
@@HectorHectorson Thank you so much for the quick reply and explanation! As someone with no static, I feel a lot more comfortable going into PF knowing what those mean now lol
Is it possible to contact you somehow? I'd love to translate the guides to german, since the german community lacks some good guides/resources at such times
Sounds like a great idea. I've added an e-mail address to my channel's contact information.
Fuck this fight. Great guide.
why is the strat called "elmo" ?
The image that was passed around originally showcasing the strat had Elmo from Sesame street firing the cleave from each tornado.
The sound vanished or is it just me?
Sad I didn't see a cat phase in the actual fight! #lies
Hi I love this guide
Tornado Donuts = Donados.
that cat was about to play runaway lol
This fight makes me want to quit raiding
I totally get this. This fight is a huge jump up in difficulty from the first two and will definitely be a wall for a number of party finder groups. If you can keep powering through, the feeling of downing that bird is definitely worth it!
EDIT: Update: I've had the entire tier on farm for quite a while now. It wasn't so bad.
Idk what I'm gonna do. It was hard enough to find a consistent group of people to do p1s and p2s without having that one fucking guy make a tiny mistake that wipes the groups. I just know that add phase is going to be a meme fest..
@@HectorHectorson furthest I’ve gotten is Fire Nado’s, but FoF continues to be a challenge just to get through because of the amount of coordination. The fight is way too brutal. If they could tone down the amount of full group mechanics that would be great. I don’t play for difficulty or challenge, I just want to have fun with my friends and get cool rewards, but wiping so late in the fight because of lag, minor mess ups, etc etc it just ruins the experience.
I wish they'd just tone it down just a *little* bit. Maybe I am naive, but I feel this fight has no business being as difficult as it is being the 3rd fight in the tier. It's incredibly defeating.
@@nickh5021 This entire tier was cleared on release day. It took 16 hours. I don't think we should be calling for nerfs. There is a *plethora* of less challenging content for more casual players, which is the vast overwhelming majority of the game.
Caaaaaaaaat😻
Yeah, really tired of the tanks aggroing the cat on Asphodelos Firestorm
Fwoynix....
P3s is really not friendly to anybody who has a job
Cat
the clicking noise is so distracting :C
Meow OwO
Please stop making Tanks group with melee, it just causes so many issues
PLEASE!! I'm SORRY! Your FoF section is ruining Party Finder! You need to (1) Show the entire thing with all roles (not just broken down), and (2) Show a Part B with the entire thing rotated clockwise because you seem to gloss over the fact this entire thing can happen two ways and it fucks people up!!
Sorry, you're doing too much. 👎
Should try scripting out your guides. The constant stumbling and mis-speaking is distracting.
its literally fine lol