"Video Game Music Isn't Real Music"

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2024
  • A short video essay/commentary on the validity of video game music as an artform. This one took a quick sec cause of life stuff and I have a much bigger project coming very soon. Once again, a massive thank you to my subscribers and the homies who support me and keep me going.
    Music Used (In Order Of Appearance):
    Persona 5 Royal - No More What Ifs
    Nier Replicant/Gestalt - Song of the Ancients (Popola)
    Xenoblade Chronicles - Refugee Camp
    Fire Emblem: Three Houses - The Night of the Ball
    Final Fantasy 7 (PS1) - Tifa's Theme
    Yakuza 0 - Baka Mitai
    Gurren Lagann - Rap is Man's Soul!
    #morgisugly #videoessay #videogamemusic

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  • @morgisugly
    @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I apologize for the long wait on this video, I've been super busy juggling school, night shifts, a social life, and working on these videos. I have a much bigger project coming soon, so stay tuned. I appreciate y'all for the love and support.
    Edit: follow my Twitter if you wanna keep up with what I’m doing since there’s usually like 2 months between videos. Link to Twitter in my about section.

    • @ethanho1000
      @ethanho1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yo keep up the hard work, love these videos!

    • @godofyeets4636
      @godofyeets4636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should apologize for saying video game Music isnt real music there is actually no reason edit: wait its just in quotes sorry for the misunderstanding unless you agree with that quote then i hate ur guts

  • @PrincessShokora2002
    @PrincessShokora2002 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    If video game music wasn’t real music, they wouldn’t sell soundtracks of it

    • @mariabatalla2419
      @mariabatalla2419 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm not paying $20 dollars for a 32 bit indie Game soundtrack

    • @PrincessShokora2002
      @PrincessShokora2002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@mariabatalla2419 but other people will

    • @Asillyfella21
      @Asillyfella21 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mariabatalla2419listen to doom eternal soundtrack for 5 seconds and you will feel like you could beat brock lesnar in a fight with your finger

    • @koga7582
      @koga7582 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are traditional music bands that make game music and remixes. And like you said, they are selling game osts as albums since literally the 80. Also they are waaaaay too many artists that use video game music as bases for their music.

    • @McCaroni_Sup
      @McCaroni_Sup หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mariabatalla2419 I paid to import all six volumes of the Blue Archive OST directly from Japan.

  • @hyper_divergent7794
    @hyper_divergent7794 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Personally, I believe that there is no such thing as “Fake” music. Music is an expressive art form that has the ability to tell Stories and convey emotions. Saying such a thing is like saying that one car brand is “Real” and all other brands are “Fake”.

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      W take 💯

    • @golovkaanna8757
      @golovkaanna8757 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about ai music on spotify?

    • @Arspen
      @Arspen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@golovkaanna8757 "art form" and "ai" never goes together, that shit hardly counts as music, let alone art

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Arspen real shit. art is one of the core pillars of humanity so ai is completely and utterly incapable of ever making art.

  • @aguyonasiteontheinternet
    @aguyonasiteontheinternet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    “Music, even in situations of the greatest horror, should never be painful to the ear but should flatter and charm it, and therefore always remain music.” -Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

  • @shinsmoke
    @shinsmoke ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine video games, movies, tv shows, cartoons, and animes without music. The experience wouldn't have been the same.

  • @PlatinumYoshi
    @PlatinumYoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Great video man. Video game music is something I always adore and I feel like the composers aren't really given as much credit as they deserve. One of my favorite composers is Marty O' Donell and Michael Salvatori for their work on the Halo franchise, always giving each section of a level the right song to accompany the mood.

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I could go on and on about my favorite composers for games if that was the topic of this video. The Halo composers are definitely up there for me as well just based on Halo 2 alone.

  • @AshenHollow7
    @AshenHollow7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also yeah koji kondo will forever be one of my favorite composers to have graced this planet lol, breaks my heart a lil whenever I mention him and someone I know is a huge Nintendo fan but has no clue the genius behind the masterpieces. Koji kondo is a seriously underrated guy and deserves far more recognition

    • @BabyMatiny
      @BabyMatiny 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same with Mahito Yokota who did a lot of the mario galaxy soundtracks

  • @arturito6344
    @arturito6344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    When someone says for me "vídeo game music is not actual music" I immediately give to him/her Kingdom hearts/Mario/Zelda and final fantasy soundtracks, because it's simply my true argue for every criticism about video game music.

    • @kolinaspronok
      @kolinaspronok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hollow Knight, Oneshot, Stardew Valley, TF2, Subnautica and by far one of the best in my opinion Cuphead. The freestyle jazz is godly.

    • @Azure9577
      @Azure9577 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Persona, legend of heroes trails series, nier, metal gear, devil may cry and more

    • @Trigos211
      @Trigos211 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Imma slowly push Sonic here too.

    • @Sky_Blue_Crew
      @Sky_Blue_Crew ปีที่แล้ว +6

      One word. Undertale, that all I'm gonna say.

    • @Sky_Blue_Crew
      @Sky_Blue_Crew ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure you know the rest.

  • @LemonChad049
    @LemonChad049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The most underrated game music (one of them) comes from kingsfeild 4 the ancient city, sorta the grandfather to dark souls from the same creators and really sets the scene every time you enter an area.

  • @Carrapato_RJ
    @Carrapato_RJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My mom say this everytime i put a game music in radio

  • @morriganmask9377
    @morriganmask9377 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Videogame music isn't music"
    Meanwhile gareth coker with an entire orchestra

  • @theredcrimsonmusic
    @theredcrimsonmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart. It's really nice to hear somebody talk about music (and all art) like this. I loved this video and I can't wait to see your next video.

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for watching, these videos take a long time cause they’re mainly a hobby so I’m glad to have you around

  • @SinfullSquad
    @SinfullSquad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The fact this video doesn't a million views is a huge shame. Great video man.

  • @LeonTuMade4
    @LeonTuMade4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One of the best Soundtracks is Team Fortress 2's I play the game a lot and it's always a great time to hear a randomised song on the Main Manu it's almost like the sporify shuffle but better
    edit:I just noticed your channel has only 500 subs you deserve more subs for this kind of quality

    • @flossyboi7630
      @flossyboi7630 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m a little late for this video, but if you aren’t playing tf2 anymore, the bots have been banned and scream fortress is currently active.
      Either way, have fun👍

  • @white_man1352
    @white_man1352 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    imo rap bros are the only music fanbase that has says this, like you can say (respectfully) you just dont like rap and these mfs will hit you with "well all mainstream is garbage ,you just didnt listen to real rap music, you are racist, you listen to anime/game music"

  • @guydoesstuff5191
    @guydoesstuff5191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be wrong to say that it isn’t music, but in some cases, fine to say it isn’t a song. This is the answer. It’s right here.

  • @stroodlepup
    @stroodlepup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you just HAD to put no more what ifs in the intro. You madlad

  • @Its_Clev
    @Its_Clev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great as always, videos are getting better and better!

  • @JodaBeats
    @JodaBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sheesh dude this is high quality content-excited to see your next project

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Next couple of projects are def gonna be big ones. I’ve been seeing you grind on TH-cam as well, best of luck with your content

  • @RareEarCandy
    @RareEarCandy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    New subscriber here! The way you presented everything in this video was fantastic! I'm actually writing a paper validating the legitimacy of video game music for one of my college classes, so it was cool to hear your commentary about people's opinions of VGM. Looking forward to your future videos!

  • @dustinrogers7394
    @dustinrogers7394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VGM Fan: Man, this soundtrack's amazing! I could listen to this all day!
    Anti-VGM Fan: Turn that crap off! That's not real music!

  • @lazerboy4942
    @lazerboy4942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, the quality of your videos are higher than people with 1000 times your subscriber count. Keep up the great work! I'm rooting for you!

  • @TrueDoorMan
    @TrueDoorMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    seeing your content improve from video to video makes me happy and hyped for the future of your channel.
    Keep it up my guy, i really enjoy your content.
    That being sayed, i do feel like that visually the video is good, but i think it could be better. Some of the clips kinda feel disconnected from what is being talked about, could be just me tho.
    I dont wanna be rude, the video is still very high quality and i enjoyed it throughout, just wanted to add a bit of input.
    (edit: misspelling)

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was def hard to get footage that matched up on this one so the critique makes sense. Only a couple videos in so I strive to keep getting better and I very much appreciate your support as well. Hope to see you on my newer projects as they come out

  • @anthonyluvsu
    @anthonyluvsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    another great video! i love the nostalgia feel ur vids give, cant wait to see more videos from you! commenting for the algorithm

  • @neog8029
    @neog8029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just found your channel today. Your level of presentation in each of your videos is mind-blowingly good, I can't believe you don't have at least 10k subs! So I'm doing my part,, and here's to hoping the algorithm notices the effort and care you put in.

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you so much, i love these kinds of comments :^)

  • @XenoJace
    @XenoJace ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First video I've seen from you and it was great! You are super underrated man, how do you not have 4 digits yet!?

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  ปีที่แล้ว

      i actually gotta upload videos to get there 😭 i appreciate that so much though seriously

  • @enbeats2762
    @enbeats2762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You deserve more subs man

  • @xx_pit_xx8492
    @xx_pit_xx8492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oof why I found this after four months lol
    In my case it is weird because I almost exclusively just listen to ost of videogames, is not like normal music is bad or anything, but the situations I listened that music makes me liking it more.
    Also the style as you said is totally different to other types of music, but still you can't find all generes in there, maybe even music with vocals that could be confused with others in the genre like for example some of the twewy, the modern persona games, anything from crush 40 etc
    Plus can your cinema have the sound direction of a Yoko Taro game, I think not.
    Idk I think video-game music is just neat

  • @Mumble8988
    @Mumble8988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can I just got on record and say that it should be a crime that Nintendo soundtracks are not available on streaming services because their games lowkey have some fire tracks in them. Koji Kondo is literally a legend.

  • @creeeamy7133
    @creeeamy7133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Video game music isn't real music. Source: I never played metal gear rising

  • @meathead6155
    @meathead6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Question, who is responsible for this incident saying, "Video Game Music Isn't Real Music"

  • @foenixchadwick4446
    @foenixchadwick4446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHY TF DOES THIS MAN ONLY HAVE 608 SUBSCRIBERS!!?? Seriously though the quality of your videos are better than people with 1million 2 million subscribers. Good job man 🙂🔥👑

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i appreciate this sm

  • @RizaLazar
    @RizaLazar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why doesn't this have a thousand views

  • @rkbelmont1138
    @rkbelmont1138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nier, Octopath, Child of Light, Ender Lillies, and so on.

  • @ArthurBoente
    @ArthurBoente ปีที่แล้ว

    Beck Mongolian chop squad on a video... My god, thank you.

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      very very good show. it's honestly the reason i didn't quit music and now i'm in music school.

    • @ArthurBoente
      @ArthurBoente ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@morgisugly amazing! Keep it real dude! Hope you accomplish everything you aim to

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ArthurBoente i appreciate that so much :^)

  • @Looshbih
    @Looshbih 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sheeshh cant wait till the day a game features 100 gecs in its in game music
    😈😈😈

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ong, gecs fans finna eat good when that happens

  • @AshenHollow7
    @AshenHollow7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Know I'm late to the party just thought it was funny like to mess around with Rocksmith (if unaware it's guitar hero with real guitars) and was playing gusty garden Galaxy theme and ugh gives me chills and can't help but have a smile on your face with the upbeat catchy songs that are always present in mario

  • @blaster4479
    @blaster4479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this videos idea: MUSIC IS MUSIC

  • @poopmandog5825
    @poopmandog5825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid man

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks homes >:^)

  • @treblazer
    @treblazer ปีที่แล้ว

    The Super Mario Galaxy OST is GOATED! And should be STUDIED!

  • @braydenpotts
    @braydenpotts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good stuff

  • @squidsona8509
    @squidsona8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Someone told me even movie music is fake music..

    • @squidsona8509
      @squidsona8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also foreign music

    • @meathead6155
      @meathead6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then that person is vandalizer who making some trouble.

  • @shoegazeluvr
    @shoegazeluvr ปีที่แล้ว

    a lot of my playlists consist of rythym games songs and instrumentals lol

  • @lenny_boxx4206
    @lenny_boxx4206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that MGR, DMC V, HALO, DOOM
    And most of the memorable soundtracks of Nintendo
    you can't tell me Video Gakr Music is not music

  • @dashingdotdc2
    @dashingdotdc2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does this dude have only 778 subscribers?

  • @buddah1978egypt
    @buddah1978egypt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting vid. There's quite a few tracks from final fantasy, especially 14 as there is more singing like footfalls would potentially storm the charts. Soken and nabou unemetsu are gods probably mick gordon too. Mainstream music nowadays is untalented crap, no wonder everyone I know just listens to game soundtracks now, even games they haven't played.

  • @corniyy
    @corniyy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is like a video by a guy named Cedster360, in which he compares video game music and rap/hip hop music and stuff. You should check it out.

  • @Jeman155
    @Jeman155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video man, can tell you worked your ass off on this one, quality is getting much better :))

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks homes, really appreciate it

  • @pvzpokra8602
    @pvzpokra8602 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:36 they missed the hidden 1-up I am so disappointed

  • @Whyiseveryhandletaken6942
    @Whyiseveryhandletaken6942 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone who says that is out of line & wrong

  • @katenkyokotsu3481
    @katenkyokotsu3481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the dragon quest theme isn’t real music then idk what is

  • @MDE128
    @MDE128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some video game music is good. I do like the music in Super Smash Bros. and Mario Kart. However, I do consider video game music to be very different than regular traditional music. Traditional music is always better which is why I listen to it a lot more.

    • @mojojojox5043
      @mojojojox5043 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No offense but this is pretty close minded. I can bring up several songs from games that would easily be on par with traditional music.

    • @Azure9577
      @Azure9577 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mojojojox5043 exactly and I agree with you

  • @sassychip26
    @sassychip26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pigstep.

  • @aaronsimpson2649
    @aaronsimpson2649 ปีที่แล้ว

    gud video, is very yes

  • @pobillibrari
    @pobillibrari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoo super interesting! I will share my thoughts on why "they" call it fake music, since i think that it could be a deep topic.
    So i think that Game music is built different from other music, specially Movie music, because the development of the Games is quite different from Movies. Maybe because Game developers don't have the same amount of Money invested in Music itself. ´
    So comming from that, Game music composers don't have the same "marketing", or public image of Movie Composers have.
    Movie music have had a great link with classical music, and has known how to implement it to the Industry.
    Besides, Game music has some great projects (mostly the ones with the good Money), but it looks like Game composers have been building new music looking back to the same projects, and entering a big mess of a loop.
    I have hope that new Game music will explore new ways of expressing feelings, and learn from the classics!

  • @meathead6155
    @meathead6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never accuse videogame music or else you will end up as a problem. Yes it would cost your life into disaster.

  • @Kno_2-d8h
    @Kno_2-d8h 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is no such thing as fake music.

  • @georgelynch1
    @georgelynch1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Music isn’t real music

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      gonna kindly ask you to shut up >:^(

    • @CGFillertext
      @CGFillertext 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Reject ‘music’
      Embrace screaming endlessly at the sun

  • @Anonymous-di4nb
    @Anonymous-di4nb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Undertale, deltarune, minecraft:”.”

  • @Overpade
    @Overpade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    W

  • @SqueakyMcSqueaks
    @SqueakyMcSqueaks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go listen to nuclear mission jam

  • @DuffkaBigNerd
    @DuffkaBigNerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video game music is'nt'nt real music

  • @nave-wp4ws
    @nave-wp4ws ปีที่แล้ว

    It'd not necessarily a lack of quality it sort of just loses by default, think about it, real music has been around for centuries longer, has gone through so many changes, has dozens of thousands more track artists and bands to fit your needs and most have vocals which many people prefer and already limits the song because getting rid of vocals in a song takes away a lot from it, and have used a much caster array of instruments, I still enjoy osts but traditional music will always be seen as better and no matter what anyone says it always will be in one way or another.

  • @doriphor
    @doriphor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you been talking to boomers again? Lol

  • @cerealhit555
    @cerealhit555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "video game" music is aight most of the time, but there's way better out there. Of course it won't randomly onto you and you need to research on your own.

    • @mojojojox5043
      @mojojojox5043 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's more too it than that. I can bring up a lot of soundtracks that are on par with traditional music for albums.

    • @Azure9577
      @Azure9577 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You just haven't played many good games then

  • @zeltrajpg5589
    @zeltrajpg5589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Рuто

  • @jumbojoshonmolly
    @jumbojoshonmolly ปีที่แล้ว

    the obvious point yr missing here is that, yes, there is no such thing as real or fake music, and yes, video game music is just as worthy of consideration as other sorts of music, the fact remains that there exist Certain Groups of People that listen to nothing but video game music, and in more than one person's opinion, that first group is not worth the gum on yr shoe. they'd do anything to poison the well against those lowbrow nitwits¹, and that includes re-arranging the definition of art to their liking. and, you know what? there's a morsel of truth to that. or maybe some primordial thrill to seeing some subhuman pond scum² get put on blast. one can tolerate a complete an utter destruction of the self-worth if the assailant puts some wit into it. you, however³, are not that. a dry pretentious⁴ script is still a dry pretentious script no matter how many "guy who just came up with a deku from my hero academia voice but also has only seen tiktok clips of other guyses deku from my hero academia voices"-isms you put into the reading of it. but, the real point⁵ the second group⁶ are circling, is that, in the least insulting terms that i can put this in, music made by recording artists, for an album or single format; by classical composers, hunched over a desk, scribbling out notes as if they were writing a diary entry for a day wherein every colour was seen; absolute or program; by rappers, the unrealised⁷ wordsmiths; which is credited to a single artist but was the product of tens of people working hard on songs that end up given to someone who just sang it⁸; in any genre, whether folk, metal, pop, country, jazz, psychobilly, vaporwave, hip hop, punk, emo, eai⁹, whatever; would be better subjects for intellectual ponderings and other brainy pursuits than whatever miki obaka cooked up for pokémon dash. you know what i mean, right? it means¹⁰ PUT DOWN THAT WII U GIVEN TRITE AND START PROPERLY EXPLORING THAT MUSICAL LANDSCAPE, THAT'S WHAT!
    please watch this informative public service film for more information: th-cam.com/video/oPeXjcK5rFk/w-d-xo.html
    ¹no offence intended, i'm getting into the mindset of the strawmen i just made up.
    ²still from the pov of the hivemind of strawmen, remember.
    ³or the you who lives forever in this vid.
    ⁴and not the silly prog rock kind of pretentious!
    ⁵and the one that i, personally, wish to shout from the rooftops about.
    ⁶the ones that hate the ones who only love vgm. i hope these footnotes aren't too confusing and you gave up reading this. if you are, hi! y'know, i spent too much time writing these comments. i should do some actual creative writing. i've got a lot of sentences planned out for a short story type dealie, but only 2 written down. but, when i finish it, you... probably won't be the first to know. sorry.
    ⁷unrealised, as in "not many people realise this", not "this person failed at whatever so now they do this"
    ⁸this is not to insult whoever, this is just the way the music business is, and i wish it wasn't. it would be very cool to have the names of all the songwriters on the front cover of like avril lavinges next record, but so far, no one has been brave enough to try that yet.
    ⁹if you would allow me to digress in the form of a very hyperbolic meme: blokes who say "video game music is real music" when you take them to a sachiko m concert: and then a picture of a guy cartoonishly bursting with rage
    ¹⁰please imagine the following screed fitting into some sort of "propaganda" poster. and again, no hard feelings.