$30,000 Wildlife Shootout: Nikon vs Canon, D850 vs 5DS-R
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- Got big bucks? We test the ULTIMATE WILDLIFE PHOTOGRAPHY GEAR:
* Nikon D850 (sdp.io/d850) & Nikon 600mm f4 (sdp.io/n600)
* Canon 5DS-R (sdp.io/5dsr) & Canon 600mm f4 (sdp.io/c600)
We also test the Nikon D500 (sdp.io/d500) & Nikon 200-500 (sdp.io/n200500) and the Canon 500mm f4 (sdp.io/c500).
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Got big bucks?
* Nikon D850 (sdp.io/d850) & Nikon 600mm f4 (sdp.io/n600)
* Canon 5DS-R (sdp.io/5dsr) & Canon 600mm f4 (sdp.io/c600)
* Nikon D500 (sdp.io/d500) & Nikon 200-500 (sdp.io/n200500) and the Canon 500mm f4 (sdp.io/c500).
Hello, thanks for another fun video. FYI the hyperlink to the Canon 500 f4 doesn't look to be redirecting correctly, love the shows, Merry Chrimbo.
It's because the hyperlink added the ). If you remove that it'll work.
Tony & Chelsea thank you for making this video😊😊😊😊
where you take money for buying this expensive gear? Please i need help but i need for my new dslr but my old is the so slow and not working please give me feedback but i need money for nikon gear
Love what you do. Thank you for it! I have a D750 and the new 70-200. I went to Conowingo Dam to shoot the eagles and got some good shots. For most wildlife pictures, I shoot in the woods or jungle of Costa Rica. There is usually not a ton of light. I do not want to carry a bazooka around with me. So, what if I got a D850 and a used 300mm f/2.8 vr2 G- ED? I could shoot in DX crop or crop in LR. Does the 300mm f/2.8 stand up to the pixels in an 850? Would a D500 be a better match? Do you think Nikon will update the 300mm 2.8 sometime soon? Thanks again!
*_It's a FANTASTIC comparison! Thank you very much!_*
Nice video, Tom and Chelsea! Thanks! Cheers from Argentina!
Love it that you also included that Sony-combo!! Thanks for that guys!
Love how you interact. Looks like a lot of fun when you do these things and Tony I appreciate your "Just the facts" attitude, no fluff with your reviews. Chelsea, love your humor and your comments are always spot on! You are dealing with equipment out of my league but it is nice to see what the Pro world looks like. It all boils down to the shooter.
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I have been using a Mogopod with a Manfrotto quick release head (with tilt) with the Nikon 200-500. With the lens mounted at the balance point, the setup can be swept up/down and panned easily.. The single collar height adjust on the Mogopod makes for quick setup.
Great video! Thank you ....
Great video. Loved the comparisons and the humour.
Professional advice, well-made topics. It's nice to watch and listen on the channel
Thanks for including the Nikkor 200-500mm lens
Brilliant video. Loved the lens holding competition. You are both the best!
You guys are awesome. Loved the shootout!
Great episode!
God Tony is lucky, where do you find a beautiful women who can also hand hold a 600mm f4! Hopefully someday I can settle on a hot wife that will carry my 400mm 2.8 lol!
@@patricksmith2553 lol
The lighting on Chelsea at the start of the video was fantastic.
Great vlogging setup
Entertaining and informative. Loved it!
love this video
I think the Canon looked consistently sharper, but that is probable because Tony holds the camera and lens steadier than Chelsea. Should have switches systems to give both a fair chance.
I would have done both a hand-held test and a tripod-mounted test, as to rule that out and also since most of the time one would use some kind of support with these setups. If VR and shutter speed are fast enough then ok, but for purely objective testing I would have used a tripod. I'm assuming they are shooting the same ISO and shutter speed and aperture, and RAW or?
I think that main reason is Canon's canceled AA filter, even in 2024 this now 9 years Old camera compares extremely sharp against newer once, even those with 50 megapixel
Use both systems, agree 100% with your findings. Thanks for the video.
Great episode! I may have missed it, where was the location you were shooting at? Looks like a nice variety of wildlife to capture great photographs.
Thank You. Fun video. I love the 200/500. Great value
Merry Christmas
Thanks for the advice.I have a 500 lense and also a 100 400 lense.with .ask 4 and a mark3
TONY AND CHELSEA! I love this video, and it hasn't even started!!
great video... Thoughts on the sigma 150-600 with mc-11 for a9/a7rIII?
Really good video. The Canon 500mm seems like an incredible value. Surprisingly good adapted focus on a7riii. I would love to know how you found adapting with the Canon 70-200 2.8 is ii. I've seen videos with the eye af and the Canon 85 1.2 ii working really well on the a7riii but the 70-200 2.8 is version ii didn't look as good. I'd like to try it myself but it's difficult to find a camera store with an a7riii in stock with an adapter to sample. I've been watching your videos since early 2009 and value your objective opinion.
Top job: thanks a lot.
nice review ...On nikon 600 mm f4 FL did you have defalut NC UV filter or CPL drop in filter?
Hey Tony and Chelsea,
Would you two being willing to do another comparison with the Canon 7d Mark II with the 100-400mm II against the Nikon d500 and comparable glass? I have been getting into wildlife a lot recently and I am loving the 7d mark ii right now but I'm curious to see if the grass is actually greener on the other side. Thanks!
Chels-Dawg for the win in the lens weightlifting challenge! Merry Christmas to you guys.
Would love to see you test a Sony A7Riii with a Sony 100-400 GM (with and w/o a 1.4 teleconverter) for bird photography.
Those 600mm lenses look like rocket launchers.
Photographers have been blown up in wars because their cameras were mistaken for RPGs...
LMAO
Fantastic video. I am a Canon user but the Nikon D850 looks really appealing.
Can you test the Sony 100-400 + 1.4 teleconverter? I've heard that combination actually focuses well on their latest bodies. I'm really curious to see the results. Great video as always :)
Tony as D850 AND 5DSR BOTH ARE very high megapixel camera whether TC 1.4 really necessary vs just simple digital crop? I use d850 + old Nikon 400mm f2.8G and I found bare lens crop is better than 1.4 but yes 2x sometime worth it due to better background blur
Chelsea makes your videos fun and great! NIKON hands down, baby!
Great episode. I invested in Canon a few years back and the cost to move is large. I'll wait with breath bated for an 850 competitor in 2018 or 19.
Great comparison guys! My buddy just picked up the 850 so I’m feeling inadequate again with my 5 DS R! I’ll never leave Canon due to my lens collection however.
Wow, taking pix AND getting a workout at the same time; awesome! I would love to rent lenses, but per usual, that too is obscenely expensive (bordering on usury) here in Australia.
Tony/Chelsea: Would you all consider using a super zoom camera in a comparison like this? The Sony RX10 Mark IV seems worth mentioning given the compact size for travel, but I'm not sure about the image quality compared to the Canon 5DSR and Nikon D850 outfitted with 600mm F4 lenses.
Just to be a bit picky the Nikon lens is not the latest version so would it make a difference if you had the latest version? because imho the Canon colours look more vibrant to me.
You did really well Chelsea with that huge lens.
Great and funny video Chelsea and Tony. Yeah, those suckers (big lenses) can easily wear you down.
The Chelsea/Tony lens holding competition was the funniest thing you guys have ever done
Happy New Year!
Enjoyed that, thanks.
I would say the 1Dx2 shoots very good 4k and the 5Dsr video is actually surprisingly good if you use the Neutral profile and grade it (or even a log profile in a custom slot). (It's not sharpened as much in-camera but the detail is good for FHD and the moire performance amazing, it's certainly better than my GH4, in FHD that is, GH4 4k downscaled is better.)
A request - if there isn't one already a video on extenders would be interesting. Especially how much do you get vs straight enlargement (and how much less of an improvement is a 2x vs 1.4x+scaling than 1.4x vs nothing+scaling), also how much worse vs. a longer lens. P.S. you can stack the Canon 1.4x and 2x if you're careful, but just do it for fun (I've done it with the mk IIs to see what it did for the Moon, plus stacking to help out the resolution).
The lens on Chelsea's camera appears to be the newer Nikon 600mm f/4E not the G as indicated in the video
I like going out hiking a lot and I want to be able to carry a camera and lenses for video and wildlife photography on my hikes. But seeing how cumbersome those lenses are on a full-frame camera is a more assuring reason I want to commit to getting Panasonic M4/3 camera and lenses.
That alone is the reason I bought into m4/3. I use a biker hydropack where I carry my camera and lens and water when I hike. It frees up my hands so I can rock climb and get those really hard shots. Worth the sacrifice of m4/3 sensors and stuff
JustSimplyBrandon. I walk up to 15 miles/7 hours a day. My Canon kit meant that I could hardly get out of my chair after a days shooting, so I sold it all. I shoot wildlife almost exclusively and use the following kit now: Olympus EM1 mark II + Oly 300mm f4 (FF equivalent is 600mm) + Oly 1.4 TC (FF equiv. 840mm) + 12 - 100mm f4. I also own a Nikon D500 + Nikkor 300mm f4 PF VR + Nikkor TC14EIII (this set up weighs less than the EM1.2 + 300mm f4). I can carry these two systems for the same distance/time but can mow the grass etc., when I arrive home now. I also own a Nikkor 200 - 500mm f5.6 and Sigma 180mm f2.8 OS macro. When I take these out with my D500 I tend to cut distance and time down to about 4 miles/4 hours or less - depending on what Olympus kit I have with me at the time. The EM1 mark II is a marvellous wildlife camera, in many ways better than the D500: and the lenses are superb.
Hi Tony. Would that Canon work as well with the Sony A7rii for still wildlife? I know the frame rate would be slower but would focusing and IQ be similar to the A7riii?
So do you believe that the Nikon D500 with the 200-500mm is a better combination than the canon 7D mark II with the 400mm F5.6 ?
here is a crazy thought. but I wonder how the Panasonic 100-400mm on there new g9 compares (also why not the sigma 150-600mm contemporary on an 80d)
Hi, What is the difference between Auto Mode and Programmed Auto Mode? (Not Flexible Programme Mode). Which mode is best when we don't have enough time to adjust exposure settings...?
Which one would you guys recommend for me for mostly portraits and landscape. D850 or 5DSR or 5D mark IV
I was most interested in your APS-C vs. full-frame comparison in this plenty-of-light, really-long-lens photography scenario. It's why I'm still pretty happy with my 60D for this kind of shooting.
Agreed, the nikon crop vs full frame comparo was rather telling in this video!
For ages I shot with a 7DMKII and a 5DSR but found that, in the UK at least, when I wanted to shoot birds (raptors/owls are my main "thing") the low-light performance was not to par. So I sold both and god a 1DX MKII. It rocks and I really enjoy shooting with it, the quality is all there. So is the weight mind...
Wow, used 500mm F4 = the way to go for the Canon camp. Nice video! I've been rollin with the 100-400 II + 1.4xIII + 5dmkiv, kinda just learned to work with it, but there's no substitute for an F4 lens to start with.
Interesting Video on the lens. Fun at the end. Cool.
Nice video, good content, uniquely delivered
I always get asked how much my did my lens cost when I carry a tamron 150-600. I can only imagine the questions you get with a 600mm f4.
Tony & Chelsea really enjoy your videos. Both are great cameras but could you do a test of the A7R3 with the SAL 500f4 with the LA-EA3. As far as I know no one has done this. I use the A7R3+100-400GM+1.4 with great results.
I am curious about that Sony body - Canon lens combo :) is the A9 better with those long lenses in terms of AF? Can you test that out. It is much faster after all and second thing :) the A7r3 is ok as AF but I am curious which version of the firmware was in that body when you tried it. I wonder is the 1.01 update actually ruining the AF because a few friends of mine were complaining about the AF with Canon lenses but my body with its v1.00 firmware is working well...
Well, that handholding timed test was SOOOOO cute! I laffed out laude.
I like the comparisons you make. I would like to see a comparison between D850 and 5DMKIV with same setup.
The 5D Mk IV wouldn't be nearly as sharp because of the lower resolution and AA filter... that's why I wouldn't choose it over these bodies for wildlife.
You are the best 😘
Great video, thank you. I own the Nikon 600 f/4 G now for 2 months. Chelsea...you are correct...it's a commitment!! Have it paired with the D500 and a 1.4TC. Great for birds. I was at Conowingo when you guys were, but never saw you...would like to meet you one day :)
What about the Sigma 500m f4 sport? Any chance you'll be reviewing this lens?
I wonder how the 200-500 and 600mm primes compare to something "affordable" like the Sigma 150-600mm C (which I got in perfect condition for $700 CAD). I find it tracks birds in flight easily for 10+ sec and can get great images if you have enough light, but I've never tested it against something costing 10x more.
Daniel Draghici I had the Tamron 150-600 and it now sits in the box after I went 100-400L Ver 2... IQ difference and focus speed was just that significant to me. I also use a 400 F2.8 v2 + extenders and much prefer the results over the 150-600. Not to say I don’t like the Tamron, I just get better and significantly more keepers using the Canon’s....albeit, with a price...
Makes sense about the prime but we're talking huge price difference and f2.8 which I can't even get close to with the lens. I also went with the Sigma because I saw enough comparisons where the Tamron couldn't match it. I think one day I'll have to test my Sigma against a prime because honestly I can't say I have issues tracking any birds, and I've rarely shot slow, large ones. The f stop and increased sharpness would be cool though!
Daniel Draghici I shot my Tamron next to my friend that has the Sigma.. Pretty similar results I gotta admit. I did like the Sigma build quality better however. They’re excellent lenses for the money no doubt.
The Tamron/Sigma are good in open space (good light), but if you go to the rainforest it's a nightmare. A lot of miss focus or soft img. After 1-2 years with tamron 150-600 i changed to canon 400mm f5.6 (better even without the IS). If you hv the money go for the 100-400mm II
I have the Sigma 150-600 C and also the Nikon 300mm f/2.8 that I use the Nikon 1.7x and 2.0x teleconverters with on a D500. They compare well at the 600mm setup. But I find the 300mm Nikkor focuses faster at the equivalent Sigma 300mm and seems to be crisper in contrast. I usually take the big tripod for the Nikon 300mm while I reserve the Sigma for light walks and exploring new paths. The Sigma is definitely worth the price for the value I get out of it.
Would be interesting to compare these with an OMD with the 300mm f4
I think the OMD with the 300mm f4 is much sharper.
I am not so sure, if you need to crop the FF at 600mm then you are going to need to crop the Oly at 300mm. The Olympus may be a little short of pixels for a decent crop. I know which I would prefer to carry around all day though.
Bridge camera with super zooms are a cheap alternatives?
What’s your thoughts on a 400 f5.6 for someone looking to video wildlife. Took my C100 out in the woods last summer by my longest focal range of 250 wasn’t even close when wanting to shoot animals. Thoughts?
Would've been interesting to see the Sony A99 Mark 2 with the Sony SAL500F40G (500mm f4) in this comparison (not a 600 f4. but as i know they do not make a lens this long).
Would you consider Canon 800mm? Or Sigma 800mm on Sony body for it has no OS.
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Where are you at? I live in CT too. Thanks great video.
Tony and Chelsea,
I recently purchased the D500 along with an assorted of lens including the 200 - 500 mm 5.6.
I have learned so much watching your videos and decided based on your videos to purchase your book, “How to Create stunning Digital Photography.”
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It is apparent you have a great marriage and a passion for photography.
Merry Christmas,
RUSS
enjoyed watching
Useful tips😊👌
can you do a a7r3 video with adapted canon glass (testing out eye af etc)
You made me laugh on that hand held competition.... A thumbs up to the video 📹
Your videos are great! I'm not looking for a new camera but last night (10-15-20) I found the Canon 5Ds for $1299.99 @ B&H, a new camera not a used or refurbished body and I'm very tempted. I'd prefer the D850, since I use Canon and Nikon bodies but for the price it does everything I need it to do.
I'd be very curious as to how they would compare to the $3000 oly 300mm
Bought your book....Niiiiiiccce. liked your vid.
Excellent video T&C. Come on Canon, get catching up already! (I'm a Canon user!)
What about the Zeiss 1700mm f/4 for Hasseblad (car not included)?
Tony, how is the video on the mark 4 terrible?
should test out the Sigma 500mm F4
I have a copy and its easily as good as the new gen Nikon equivalent at a much better price
That 600F4 E FL is a work of art.
The video quality of Chelsea in the grass talking about the 200-500 is amazing.
Chelsea was too cute on the lens hold challenge🤣
When you said "cute" did you mean strong and powerful/intimidating?
Hahaha 😂 Im sure he meant intimidating 😜
I'm sure that's EXACTLY what he meant. 😎 .
Chelsea Northrup I’ll stick with cute. Gotta let my chill bro Tony thinks he’s the strong 💪 one...
Silly and dangerous XD
Curious if the Sigma 600mm can compete to Canon or Nikon @600mm
What happened in your direct video comparison at 10:08 with the D850 video? it looks all shaken up. IS/VR going wonky?
I'm here on pins and needles waiting for your take on the Sigma 200-500 f/2.8. The reviews on Amazon are absolutely hysterical!!
hello sir... i have 80d canon.. i couldnot get the sharp pic so plz help me the seting for bird phtography thanks
Thanks
yesterday i bought canon 5d mark iv but i did not unbox that cuz looking for 5ds R for my portraits studio even in 2020 5ds R will never be beat in studio
The real world camera lens..love that long lens
Hi this is somewhat related question I am on the canon Platform so just wanted to ask want to gift my dad a DSLR he just likes to use it in auto mode (currently 3Ti) for wildlife (Jungle creatures mostly not birds mainly Tigers here in India) which one would be best. considering 7DMII thanks
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If you're trying to extract the most detail possible using 600mm lenses for wildlife, you should be using a sturdy tripod with a gimbal head. Or some similar type of support.
Do you ever have internal elements fogging up due to moisture?
oh man! Chelsea you are funny. Every time after getting good information in your video last 2 mins are the fun time( either your pun or this fun competition). I am laughing like anything!
Hi, why you did not use the Canon EOS 1 D X Mark II as body ?
Will you ever do a wildlife episode with micro four thirds equipment as a comparison?
No, of course. We understand why ;-)
Watched two of your videos and found them exactly what I was searching for with understanding value in lens vs body and what differences between the 200-500 vs the 600mm. As an Aggie... didn't love the hat ;) But seriously great job.