I wouldn’t worry too much babe.. trolls like to twist stuff to try let two people on the same side try to turn on eachOther… but you and Emily are very clever people and I can see what they are trying to do. Don’t worry I’m sure Emily is ok and knows they are just trying to cause trouble again.😊ur both brill
I don't make many comments, but I would like to say that you are so right in what you are saying. Alot of media misleads you. Thank you Aussieinsider for your comments.
Oh my gosh bless you Aussie Insider!! 🙏 I often watch EDB and when she said that booing the family is going too far , I thought no! no! that's not right!! I've seen so much coverage and if ANYTHING they go out of their way to NOT put the family in a difficult position and yes Turtle 🐢 Boy also made it a point to say as much. It's just wrong for the media to spread such misinformation!
@@AussieInsider but you are. You are calling her out for saying people shouldn't boo the family. Even though you think the same. I don't know what you wanted to accomplish here but I don't think this helps.
EDB rocks! And she’s wicked smart. 💜💜💜 Don’t let the trolls get to you. They have nothing better to do than try to get under your skin. We appreciate what you do! 😎
I love you, you talk with a level head every time I listen to you, you're honest, you explain everything in detail, you explain things that some of us might not have understood prior, you are very real!!!
Well Turtle boy is responsible for bringing all this KR case and the whole corruption in general to light. He’s the only one that really counts in my eyes. Kudos 100% to TB. No knows the details better. So much so that he was sent to prison for what… TRUTH TELLING! ❤️👊🏽🐢👦🏼you are THE ONE!🇦🇺🫶🏼🇦🇺🫶🏼🇦🇺🫶🏼
@@katebullock4206 ofcourse the Doctor informed me further and better but I first saw Emily loosing it over the trial (not hearing from the M.E or the lead investigator) and that peaked my first interest cause that just seemed so strange. So started down the binge watch and obviously came across TB daily Justice for Officer John O'Keefe Free Karen Read 💖💙💖💙💖💙💖💙
@@SharneMolly yeah… I hear ya! That binge thing with this case has killed housework duties , sleep of any substance, and a social life…. Well to be fair besides the online chat that is. Can’t deal with fools face to face anyway🤷♀️😜😂. But yes… all the YT’s covering this case are AWESOME. And factual too. In the very beginning when I first came across the story, I didn’t think much of anything either side. Thought I’d just listen and see. But the minute Mr Yanetti opened his mouth for opening statements, I was sold. My thinking being that they cannot say all these allegations about the LE etc if not factual. The lads have really shine and brought their AAA+ game. FKR…. FTB… justice for JOK.🫶🏼🇦🇺✌🏼🐢😘
@@katebullock4206 🤣🤣 my family have lost me to this case 🤣 my phone and ear buds are working overtime! Being in Australia too there's alot of time zone difference to catch up on and now all the new channels I've had to follow and go through there coverage ( Mazza/LTL/Glarer the list goes on and on lol) I've always been a true crime junkie and didn't think much of this or didn't understand at first what is was about. Then I noticed LawTubers starting the coverage of trial and still thought it was going to be something intellectual I probably wouldnt understand. Then one day EDB quick bits popped up I clicked it and it was emily extremely frustrated because of the way the trial was going watched a few more quick bits and then Aussie mashups of lawtubers collectively loosing it over the same things in the same case. I knew then I'd made a mistake not getting on board months ago 🤣🤣 and had some serious catchup to do. Found the doctor and now I'm Team Justice for John starts with freedom for Karen And honestly the McAlberts were too corrupt not to get addicted to bringing them to Justice for their obvious crimes
It’s important to be able to speak your opinion without it being an angry thing or divisive . You’ve done a good job here. EBD would probably agree. 🌻. In our world today people are afraid to give an opinion because the reaction is hateful rage. Thanks for modeling what real discussion is. 🥰
I did watch Emily and her comment on this issue and unfortunately I had the same feeling that she was missing information and made a statement completely uninformed. I used to like her judgment but in this case I felt dissapointed. Glad some more people are bringing light to this issue. Please Emily ¡
Is this really an issue, though - ? I'm sure many YT creators make unintended mistakes like this from time to time. And I'm sure EDB's members would have notified her about the error in chat. So why the need to discuss it elsewhere?
theres a reason the mcalberts stayed close to the okeefes and thats to protect themselves and nothing else , but this civil case is going to throw a real spanner in the works for the mcalberts
EDB live streamed the entire KR trial. I faithfully watched her stream of the trial- I believe she said "IF" anyone was bothering the family. She most definitely was appalled by most of what LE did in the case, and said she would not have prosecuted the case. When EDB streams trials, she avoids the pretrial publicity, so she can watch the trial as if she was a juror.
I completely agree, as a fan of EDB who enjoy her work, you've approached this with the utmost respect for her and that comes across clearly. Imo the best way to make your point ❤
It's important to note Emily was not doing a Live - it was a recorded video she put out when discussing this. 90% of her content is Live, and she watches the chat closely, so I think that is why she wasn't aware of what happened. Normally her chat would have gone crazy and corrected her in a Live
I saw that podcast and even though I’m aware that no one was yelling at the okeefe family. I understood when Emily didn’t get that part right, it’s because she isn’t aware of all the extra-curricular court activities. I don’t remember her specifically judging the protesters just saying that the family shouldn’t be harassed.
I personally want Emily to know that we've all been requested by our respected leaders _NOT TO_ direct any hate to the O'Keefe's at the courthouse, and we agreed not to. While it may have been misinterpreted by mainstream media in the past, we're more careful now so as not to confuse anyone. That's what we want Emily to know so she doesn't inadvertently contribute to a false and harmful narrative.
@@ThatRedhedd I got it and agree with that. I was more responding to the subject matter/insinuations of off-topic commenters. I should have mentioned that at some point in the beginning.
I personally want Emily to know that we've all been requested by our respected leaders _NOT TO_ direct any hate to the O'Keefe's at the courthouse, and we agreed not to. While it may have been misinterpreted by mainstream media in the past, we're more careful now so as not to confuse anyone. That's what we want Emily to know so she doesn't inadvertently contribute to a false and harmful narrative.
@@littleirishgirl in Australia. I was responding to OP. But we’re based off British rule so I am sure they have similar. Uk allows for petitions that gain over a certain number of signatories to be raised as an issue in their parliament. Not sure how it works but means the government has to address it. Also, Britain has had many protests as has Australia so not sure why people think you can’t.
I get it, Aussie girl. I fell upon the utube clip of opening statements in 🎬 "Justice for All." ( Al Pacino). Judge proclaims to defense, "You're out of order." ..defense to judge: "You're out of order, this trial is out of order....in an odd/funny way, i spiraled around to KR case.. It's out of order. It's no wonder everything on the " outside" is out of order... This KR case is rotten.
thanks Aussie.. but people let’s have some grace…we all love EDB she is not the bad one in this case.. the goal is to get justice for John O’K, free KR and make the bad actors responsible (law enforcement, the lawyers, courts and all their civilian buddies) for the corruption and chaos they have brought in Canton and Mass.. let’s keep our eye on the goal. I am sure Karen is not going to loose any sleep over an EDB mistake.
Well, it's important to correct this narrative. The #FKR supporters have made it a point to be respectful. They have a reputation to uphold because they don't want it to reflect badly on Karen. This is the ONLY footage I have seen where anything negative was done. The media is creating a false narrative...#FKR works hard because they don't want to cause trouble.
I never said EDB is bad or even made a mistake. This is an APPEAL to her good senses, a request to look further than the media propaganda. Stop making it out to be something it is not
If EDB sees this, I'd bet a digit she'll be thoroughly appreciative of your manner of discourse! Having said that, I don't know of any new developments in the past day or few but, I'm almost certain that during the trial coverage she has said "*if that's what's going on..." (she's quite conscientious about such things)- but hey, I know you have some razor sharp peepers! This comment is mostly just to admire your colloquy!
It happened in a boxing ring where he was put up against a bigger more experience opponent who apparently bashed the proverbial 💩 out of him causing all the afore mentioned damage…. In the name of training . 😡 I call BS on that . Sean … (going through the motions ) broke the news virtually just after the young recruit passed. Just more of the same it seems out of these thugs. 😡 FKR… FTB, sweet justice for JOK .🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I'm so glad you put this together. I was pretty upset when I heard her repeat the lies put out by the media. I was actually shocked at her commentary on this and said so in a comment on her stream, so thank you. You do it with much more calmness and reason :)
Atta girl!! When I first saw that crap, I, too, thought they were booing the family, BUT someone straightened me out as I said it looked like that. I am so happy someone told me what was happening, AND I saw Turtleboy lecturing the crowd IN CASE someone was booing the fam. It is difficult to live them but it's never, ever be ok with them being booed. Peggy & that RBF cousin were horrible a few times in the courtroom, but... despite their manners, they are there for reasons I pray I never have to feel. And, if I do, I pray I won't be ugly to people at all. The ones they were being ugly too certainly didn't deserve that & I think, personally, they should've be scolded for their actions but I'm sure Lally would never find them at fault despite the fact they most certainly were. The hatred of Karen is bizarre to me. I've had mothers of men I've dated diamond be but haven't ever been treated as badly as John's family treat Karen. Course, there's never been a death in the middle. When my husband died his family was pretty despicable to me, now that I think of it. I'm pretty good at ignoring those who seem to only be able to be horrible. Thank God. I'd never want to act like those I've seen acting so ugly. Where does it get us? Love, but hate! It takes just as much effort. I chose indifference if I find I simply can't agree. Hugs, love, & very well said!!
I’m Australian, I live in Melbourne and am struggling so much w our political and social climate rn & what to do with my passion and care before the systemically created barriers to social organising that we seem to face, as well as the chronic intellectual dishonesty, bleak everything else is. So this brought a tear to my eye!! I suspect we have similar pulls towards these cases the corruption the community disruption happening w our friends in Norfolk county. Canton: whose resistance & solidarity & earnestness we’re not socially permitted…energise me daily, w awe. I respect the hell out of this post. You’re thoughtful smart and grounded and I didn’t know about this but still got so much out of your reflection overall. I’ll have to link up with you on another platform and connect! ❤
I saw that. I was wondering what she was talking about. I adore EDB. After the Johnny Depp Trial, she should know that the media is not exactly reliable with the truth. I hope she sees this. 💜
Why does anyone adore a TH-cam creator? Emily is just a person. Rather strident and full of herself. TH-cam creators tend to get big egos and become obnoxious. They should not be worshipped. Push back is essential when these people with shows get it wrong. The audience often knows more than the TH-cam creator.
Adoring someone and worshipping them are two separate things. There are many amazing youtube creators..especially in the #FKR movement. Unlike most communities they respect and support each other and there's no in-fighting. That is quite remarkable in my opinion
@@notnow7973 I adore EDB because I choose to. She has principles and a strong moral compass. She is funny and really knowledgeable about the law. We need more lawyers like her. You human your way, I human my way.
I didn't like EDB basically giving out to Karen for treating the children badly. She totally believed what was put in the O'Keefe civil lawsuit. I don't believe Karen treated Kaley in the way the document suggested. She was close to the children and did care about their welfare. Of course the morning she was looking for John she was quite frantic and worried, and rightly so - he had been beaten up and was actually dying on the lawn of 34 Fairview. Her worry and actions at that may possibly have just saved his life - unfortunately he was either too injured or been outside for too long at that point. She didn't kill him but she may have just saved him, by trying to locate him at that point. Clearly, losing their uncle was absolutely horrendous for the children but I don't think Karen behaved as callously as the civil filing suggests.
I am very grateful for your vlog on this subject. I have watched Emily since the Depp trial. I'm of the opinion that she made an enormous error of judgement on this trial. She decided at the outset to not listen to any news or outside information on this case prior to watching so as to not mix up facts. Unfortunately, she didn't recognise the laborious vagueness and crappy explanation from Lally was all a big act, to coincide with Fudge Bevs controlling aircon, whilst there's probably a huge radiator blasting heat 🥵 🔥 under the jurors. Fanning the flames Sgt Fanning was a witness in charge of them too. Bev fudged up the exhibits to further create confusion, also made lally object without citing reasoning for the objection, to veil more for appeals later on and calling them to the bench each time; thus shielding the public from finding out the truth. Emily fell hook line and sinker for the rhetoric of the macalberts. After 2 episodes i stopped watching her and was relieved to continue watching Andrea Burkhart. It's really left me wondering if I want to go back to Emily's channel. I adore her humour, but she often speaks over the testimony and misses stuff. This is why i far prefer Andrea's channel. She makes notes and explains during sidebars, or if it's really important pauses the video. When things are this important; so corrupt we cannot afford to take such a blasé attitude towards testimony and coverage of trials. Public trials are for transparency, I want transparency. Thank you so much for your very hard work on this. Love from the UK.
One thing to understand about EDB is she went into the trial cold, not wanting to be immersed in all the miscellaneous background info and internet rumors. She wanted to know as much as the jury would know, which is only what was presented in court. She's mentioned wanting to do a deep dive on everything available, but only after the court proceedings are done. As a result I wouldn't expect her to go hunting up videos or talking to anyone about any part of the cases background or he said/she said stuff until after its all complete. Nothing she's said was even vaguely anti protest, which this video insinuates. Only that if negative words or booing were directed at the family as per reports then its something that shouldn't happen. I imagine her stance would be negativity shouldn't be directed at anyone involved.
Exactly. She's a former prosecutor. She only looks at cases based on court docs and transcripts until the trial is over. It is part of the reason I like her. She truly remains unbiased and goes solely on the facts presented in court. Just my opinion.
Aussie is rightfully clarifying for Emily so that Emily doesn't think or insinuate that folks were booing the O'Keefe's. They were not. It's important to clarify that because we do not want to perpetuate that false narrative. Emily seemed to not be clear on that point because 20/20 inaccurately spun a narrative, so it was imperative that the narrative be corrected.
Where I live the snow is very wet. 18 inches can totally destroy your car. Mass snow looks dry. Does that change the way blood or body weight would appear? Also why no one saw foot prints of Jen running into and back out of the house. That was why the police decided John didn't go in
I will have to respectfully disagree. If the family is being escorted by the police, and you boo the police, you are in the wrong. You can boo police, I have no problem with that. But to do that while they are escorting the family is foolish - how does anyone know who you are booing? How do they know you are booing the police with the family or the family themselves? In MHO, if the family is there, no one should be booing anyone. It is just a sign of respect and acknowledgement that whatever their opinion, they are grieving.
Yeah I was confused by her statement, because I have never seen anyone jeering at/ booing the family. If they had footage of this, wouldn’t the media CONSTANTLY play reruns of it? I didn’t watch the 2020 episode, but if they actually had footage of this happening, why didn’t they just show it? All we have are unsubstantiated claims by people we KNOW to have a clear bias. I know she might feel that expressing doubt on the validity of such claims is disrespectful, but given how many misrepresentations and falsehoods have been spread in this case, not taking every claim at face value is the responsible thing to do .
I think she doesn’t have enough context. She focuses on so many other cases etc. if she had the context - she would not have said all of that. I was telling back at my tv like “EMILY NO NO YOU KNOW THATS NOT TRUE” 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for explaining. While I'm sad for the loss of the family, I have to be honest. If they were booing at the family, I wouldn't mind because they don't know what really happened. Instead of trying to find out, they made their mind up and blame Karen. Now they try to ruin her. Maybe she drank too much, but so did the other people. Grieve or no grieve, you can't go ruin someone's life only because you think you know. BTW, what did they talk about with the Alberts? So, I don't care about the booing, sorry.
@@Nannygoat-h8oThis! If Karen had run over a small child, perhaps John could be prosecuted as an accessory to drunk driving. Even if she did hit him, I’m sure it was an accident, and I doubt John would want her to be prosecuted. BUT, still wrong to boo the family, IMO. They’ve been through a lot. Terrible loss.
I agree, Petra. I'm going through a carbon-copy of this dynamic in my family's case. The family of the deceased gets public sympathy by default, but when they add that weight to falsely accuse another, that sympathy should vanish and they are worthy of being booed. Strike that -- it's an ethical obligation to boo at that point.
@@AussieInsider what do you mean? I listened to the video. I understand that you denied people booed the family and don’t support booing the family. But in this reply thread in which my comment is made, @ PetraWillemd (sp?) said it was OK to do that. You “hearted” her comment.
@@epyx88yes I agree. Being a family member doesn’t preclude them from being wrong. They aren’t above the law either. Their behavior should be examined as it pertains to securing Justice for John O’Keefe. If they are interfering with a just outcome, this should be held up to the light.
Turtle dude crossed the line. So I WILL speak up and say the FKR protestors have been out of line. There is a fine line between protesting and harassment. That said, after watching the first trial from start to finish Karen should be free.
🐢 stopped the booing and some booing was for a guy who attacked Karen physically outside the courthouse. 🐢 is raunchy and rude so Not for everyone but he gets juror interviews.
It's no surprise that the mainstream media lets say "streamline" (in order to avoid "twist") perceptions. It's easy to do with camera angles and cuts. Emily herself was flabbergasted at how seamlessly the Amber Heard interview was cut to make her look better, after we saw the devastating raw footage before. For Emily to just echo things she heard on the grapevine, does disappoint me a little.
I watched the EDB video to this point and then I shut it off. All she did was prove that she believes TV propaganda is honest and truthful, and my estimation of her sank accordingly. I appreciate what you're doing here for truth and the FKR supporters!
Did I miss something? Is the conversation with EDB re: messages from your viewers about The Issue, online? Does she confirm in the conversation with u that this issue may cause confusion? People "I adore" question me to my face (txt) b4 they post anything. I see what u r trying to achieve, however, a little passive aggressive with all due respect. #FKR
Sorry, I don’t care for EDB. She’s a little self righteous. My opinion. I did not watch the 20/20 episode as I had a feeling they would skew the truth. I gave up on MSM a long time ago as a source of the truth.
I love EDB but her take on this case hasn't been my absolute favorite. I get that she is very pro-victim's family, HOWEVER, the behavior shown by JO's family has not been very good or well received. I actually stopped watching her videos about this case because I just don't like her stance and it's very obvious this is a corruption and frame case but she is still on the fence imo and I just can't get behind that. But normally, I can't watch a case without her and I actually watched the whole trial WITH her but not the post trial content much.
Not everyone is as obsessed with this case as this sector of individuals (FKR). Just understand this mindset is part of why people (myself included starting post-trial/verdict) find the FKR groups & mindset upsetting. God forbid your mind doesn’t meld with everyone else’s. Imo, a weird take, but it’s a common one among the FKR crowd. It’s your business if someone not being 100% one way or another bothers you. (A mindset I “blame” 🐢 boy for endorsing/amplifying) But being upset that someone is “fence-sitting” is weird. Eta: EDB is choosing to focus on the facts of the case (as a juror)and not so much the corruption aspect. Which I appreciate. There are other lawyers to watch that share your viewpoint and cover the corruption aspect and have experience dealing with corruption like Aty Melanie little or aty mark bedrow. EDB doesn’t have to be your source of everything. Eta2: moved paragraph 1 to the middle.. Eta3: I’ve divested from all KR content, I’ll check in once in a while. Now that it’s obvious that FBI is investigating the corruption in the area I’m specifically following THAT and the Sarah Birchmore case..
I find EDB to be arrogant and full of herself. Humility is necessary in these cases. No one can know everything. The audience often knows more than the content creator.
EDB, I like her too, but she is a prosecutor and so biased. Her followers agree with her blindly. She is entertaining but that’s about it. Entertainment is not what true followers of the Read case are about.
This isn’t the first time Emily has fallen for an inaccurate media narrative. She made a very distasteful short about Breonna Taylor shortly after she was wrongly killed by police. She said something like, “well, don’t date drug dealers & this kind of thing won’t happen.” Had she have done a tiny bit of research/googling, she would have seen that she wasn’t dating a drug dealer, there was already was info of police misconduct and the police were very much in the wrong. Some have been fired, retired, and/or have an upcoming trial in October
I think it’s really great to point out pattens like this, it helps ppl feel ok to address matters important like Aussie is here. It’s in the spirit of content creation to feedback and no one’s above taking it. Just re pushback you got below. To take someone else’s comment reminding us she’s apart of the BAR association and her responsibility is to the court first - I’ll leave that as it stands but in general for me I thought it’s a great reminder for us to keep in mind the lens and perspectives grounding the creators we watch. Lawyers educate us and explain the process and language as their expertise clearly but they aren’t the ones to challenge structural power with social commentary per say that’s what the protestors are for and our discussion is for. So I thinks really healthy to be collaborating our learning as we go together x
What!!!!If that's true I definitely don't intend to ever watch her again. She's never been my favorite lawtuber. I couldn't put my finger on it. Note to self: Always trust my instincts.
@Guyvermectin Wow I’ve never heard that theory. Very interesting. All of the articles & documents I’ve seen don’t mention human shields, operating a “stash house” or a body found in her car. I did see that when the did catch the guy they were looking for, they offered him a great plea deal if he told police that breonna was involved with his “business,” but he turned them down (at least he had some morals and didn’t lie to get a reduced sentence). The actual boyfriend was cleared of any charges they tried to push on him from that night, one of the officers quickly retired, another officer was criminally charged for firing many many rounds indiscriminately and into other apartments, there is an upcoming court case in October regarding the shoddy police work that night. That’s quite the fall out if the police did nothing wrong as you are implying…
We all can fall for inaccuracies in the media. I thought that’s why many of us we seek the facts via independent media. I don’t fault her for believing that at first, I mean I did as well. But as soon as I learned the truth, I was deeply upset & horrified. Did she ever correct that statement?
You're absolutely correct AussieInsider. I heard EDB on the QuickBits the other day make reference to spectators booing the O'Keefe family not being cool and felt at the time that sometimes she is a little too quick to comment on some ancilliary events surrounding a trial without full fact checking. I believe she would be the first one to accept constructive criticism such as this positively too.
Since you asked…I don’t love the cursy words. They’re so entirely over-used that they no longer have any originality or effect. To me, they’ve become fillers for people who have nothing better to say.
Thank you so much, Aussie, for making this appeal. Emily is not the only lawtuber who just accepted & repeated the media narrative (which ultimately came from the O’Keefe’s) without fact-checking. It’s just very disappointing, because EDB ordinarily is very dedicated to facts and sensitive to red-flag situations. I hope EDB hears your appeal and corrects herself.
Respectfully I think you need to brush up on the American Judicial system. The courts are not going to let a bunch of protesters dictate what they do with the KR case, and no matter who or what they were reacting to any amount of booing or acting out is going to be frowned upon. The law likes order and protests are not orderly. Furthermore Emily is a Lawyer at heart and is only looking at this case as a jurist. She’s not going to get involved in the Conspiracy Theories and noise that do nothing but distract from the facts of the case. Let’s let KR’s legal team handle this one shall we?
Isn't that EXACTLY what the 1st amendment addresses. Or do you think the "American Judical" system is not part of "the government". The courts ARE the government. If the protests were about a defendant being released that the public didn't agree with the courts and the police would not dislike that. Funny the way that works isn't it! KR's legal team is not going to speak with creators, they have way more on their plate than the need to do that. Comprehend that shall we?
I’m part of the American Judicial system and I actually find this comment DISrespectful! 🤔 it’s the right of the public to protest and fight for the rights of people being wronged! Many of the rights we experience today didn’t happen because the “courts dictated” it, its because of brave people like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Susan B Anthony, Nelson Mandela, etc..I could keep going! Sometimes it’s important to make some noise when people arent listening. It’s been done in a respectful way with the goal ALWAYS focused on justice! And THAT is all ANYBODY should be concerned about when it comes to our judicial system. Lawyer, judge, jurist, etc..🤗💜
I'm very sceptical of these "lawtubers". If they were in any way competent as attorneys they wouldn't have time to be hosting livestream coverage of trials.
@@geoffpoole483 she & her family live in a different state than the one where she was licensed to practice. She chose to go a different route in her career, most of which is consulting & legal analysis outside of TH-cam, as well as start her channel because she likes it and isn't practicing anymore. TH-cam aside, her career path changed lanes a little & apparently allows for more time to do the stuff she likes - like her channel. Her husband is a doctor in TN & she was a prosecutor in CA. I think your assumption is a little bit uninformed, at least for her situation specifically. That may be the case for someone else, but a lot of the lawtubers I watch have the time because they were fortune enough to retired early or own their own practice & have the ability & resources to make the time to do what they love & share it with people.
I don't watch Emily when she speaks about the karen read case now. She goes only by what she sees in court and court filings. And her opinion on the 20/20 interview. She doesn't watch other channels in this case if she does I haven't heard her say so. And the problem I have with that is everything she has watched or read is so anti-Karen Read that it sickens me to watch. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I agree but you don't have to watch. I don't say anything just stopped watching ❤
Again she is slamming other content creators including the law tubers and it is unacceptable if you see this EDB do better you making assumptions just makes you look ignorant and bias
umm, not sure you watched the video. There was no "slamming", only asking Emily to take the time to look into it. Pretty sure I don't need to spell it out to Emily, but you might wanna look up what "appeal" means 🤷🏽♀️
Let's be clear: I never suggested Emily did or said anything wrong. I said the media was wrong! th-cam.com/video/dz4H2DlOA9w/w-d-xo.html
I wouldn’t worry too much babe.. trolls like to twist stuff to try let two people on the same side try to turn on eachOther… but you and Emily are very clever people and I can see what they are trying to do. Don’t worry I’m sure Emily is ok and knows they are just trying to cause trouble again.😊ur both brill
Some peeps just live all up in their feels... I'm sure Emily is rational and won't take offense to my appeal
You made a good point in this video, Aussie, and you made it well. I'm sure EDB will get the nuance.
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Same I agree. I love Emily, but its okay. Im sure she knows.
I don't make many comments, but I would like to say that you are so right in what you are saying. Alot of media misleads you. Thank you Aussieinsider for your comments.
Nobody in 2024 has an excuse for believing the corporate media and not knowing their usual tricks. No excuse.
It's scary when you realize that you've been lied to for years from the msm.
Mainstream media is dead to me and should be for everyone
@The_10th_Man
Absolutely positively correct!
Oh my gosh bless you Aussie Insider!! 🙏 I often watch EDB and when she said that booing the family is going too far , I thought no! no! that's not right!! I've seen so much coverage and if ANYTHING they go out of their way to NOT put the family in a difficult position and yes Turtle 🐢 Boy also made it a point to say as much. It's just wrong for the media to spread such misinformation!
I’m absolutely sure EDB would also support the right to protest. I think she meant IF people were booing the family, they should stop.
This is how I interpreted it as well.
Idk she's also said some crap about Breonna Taylor.
can we stay on topic please! I specifically stated I'm NOT criticizing her! I'm appealing to her
@@AussieInsider but you are. You are calling her out for saying people shouldn't boo the family. Even though you think the same. I don't know what you wanted to accomplish here but I don't think this helps.
That's what I thought she meant, too.
EDB rocks! And she’s wicked smart. 💜💜💜 Don’t let the trolls get to you. They have nothing better to do than try to get under your skin. We appreciate what you do! 😎
I love you, you talk with a level head every time I listen to you, you're honest, you explain everything in detail, you explain things that some of us might not have understood prior, you are very real!!!
Love E.D.B she is the reason I got onto John O'Keefe's case ❤
Well Turtle boy is responsible for bringing all this KR case and the whole corruption in general to light. He’s the only one that really counts in my eyes. Kudos 100% to TB. No knows the details better. So much so that he was sent to prison for what… TRUTH TELLING!
❤️👊🏽🐢👦🏼you are THE ONE!🇦🇺🫶🏼🇦🇺🫶🏼🇦🇺🫶🏼
@@katebullock4206 ofcourse the Doctor informed me further and better but I first saw Emily loosing it over the trial (not hearing from the M.E or the lead investigator) and that peaked my first interest cause that just seemed so strange. So started down the binge watch and obviously came across TB daily
Justice for Officer John O'Keefe
Free Karen Read
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@@SharneMolly yeah… I hear ya! That binge thing with this case has killed housework duties , sleep of any substance, and a social life…. Well to be fair besides the online chat that is. Can’t deal with fools face to face anyway🤷♀️😜😂.
But yes… all the YT’s covering this case are AWESOME. And factual too. In the very beginning when I first came across the story, I didn’t think much of anything either side. Thought I’d just listen and see. But the minute Mr Yanetti opened his mouth for opening statements, I was sold. My thinking being that they cannot say all these allegations about the LE etc if not factual. The lads have really shine and brought their AAA+ game.
FKR…. FTB… justice for JOK.🫶🏼🇦🇺✌🏼🐢😘
@@katebullock4206 🤣🤣 my family have lost me to this case 🤣 my phone and ear buds are working overtime! Being in Australia too there's alot of time zone difference to catch up on and now all the new channels I've had to follow and go through there coverage ( Mazza/LTL/Glarer the list goes on and on lol)
I've always been a true crime junkie and didn't think much of this or didn't understand at first what is was about. Then I noticed LawTubers starting the coverage of trial and still thought it was going to be something intellectual I probably wouldnt understand. Then one day EDB quick bits popped up I clicked it and it was emily extremely frustrated because of the way the trial was going watched a few more quick bits and then Aussie mashups of lawtubers collectively loosing it over the same things in the same case. I knew then I'd made a mistake not getting on board months ago 🤣🤣 and had some serious catchup to do. Found the doctor and now I'm Team Justice for John starts with freedom for Karen
And honestly the McAlberts were too corrupt not to get addicted to bringing them to Justice for their obvious crimes
It’s important to be able to speak your opinion without it being an angry thing or divisive . You’ve done a good job here. EBD would probably agree. 🌻. In our world today people are afraid to give an opinion because the reaction is hateful rage. Thanks for modeling what real discussion is. 🥰
I did watch Emily and her comment on this issue and unfortunately I had the same feeling that she was missing information and made a statement completely uninformed. I used to like her judgment but in this case I felt dissapointed. Glad some more people are bringing light to this issue. Please Emily ¡
Is this really an issue, though - ? I'm sure many YT creators make unintended mistakes like this from time to time. And I'm sure EDB's members would have notified her about the error in chat. So why the need to discuss it elsewhere?
I love her I just wish she'd take into account all of reality and not just what has been listed in a court document
I agree with you 💯
The media who also said there was ring camera footage of kr running jok over...
theres a reason the mcalberts stayed close to the okeefes and thats to protect themselves and nothing else , but this civil case is going to throw a real spanner in the works for the mcalberts
EDB live streamed the entire KR trial. I faithfully watched her stream of the trial- I believe she said "IF" anyone was bothering the family. She most definitely was appalled by most of what LE did in the case, and said she would not have prosecuted the case. When EDB streams trials, she avoids the pretrial publicity, so she can watch the trial as if she was a juror.
I never voiced what she did or didn't say. I only mentioned what the media put out there
Love E.D.B.
We’re with you, @AussieInsider. Thanks for being a strong voice. #FKR
I completely agree, as a fan of EDB who enjoy her work, you've approached this with the utmost respect for her and that comes across clearly. Imo the best way to make your point ❤
Thank you Aussie for speaking up and trying to bring harmony to the Free KR movement. 😊
It's important to note Emily was not doing a Live - it was a recorded video she put out when discussing this. 90% of her content is Live, and she watches the chat closely, so I think that is why she wasn't aware of what happened.
Normally her chat would have gone crazy and corrected her in a Live
I believe she filmed it with her members.
@@camper4life22no it wasn’t a live with her community.
Appreciate you!
I saw that podcast and even though I’m aware that no one was yelling at the okeefe family. I understood when Emily didn’t get that part right, it’s because she isn’t aware of all the extra-curricular court activities. I don’t remember her specifically judging the protesters just saying that the family shouldn’t be harassed.
I don't believe I voiced what Emily did or didn't say. I only mentioned what the media portrayed
I gotcha! I understand where your coming from, you are informing Emily about what’s going on. 🤍
I personally want Emily to know that we've all been requested by our respected leaders _NOT TO_ direct any hate to the O'Keefe's at the courthouse, and we agreed not to. While it may have been misinterpreted by mainstream media in the past, we're more careful now so as not to confuse anyone. That's what we want Emily to know so she doesn't inadvertently contribute to a false and harmful narrative.
@@ThatRedhedd I got it and agree with that. I was more responding to the subject matter/insinuations of off-topic commenters. I should have mentioned that at some point in the beginning.
Right on! ❤👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
Thank you Aussie, well said! 👏👊❤️
Love you ❤
Hope she responds! Thanks for keeping it real
I personally want Emily to know that we've all been requested by our respected leaders _NOT TO_ direct any hate to the O'Keefe's at the courthouse, and we agreed not to. While it may have been misinterpreted by mainstream media in the past, we're more careful now so as not to confuse anyone. That's what we want Emily to know so she doesn't inadvertently contribute to a false and harmful narrative.
Well said👍🏻
Word.
I didn't know there was no right to protest in Australia. Scary.
Yesss...I learned that there is no freedom of speech in the UK also...crazy
We can still protest and we have the right to freedom of assembly, which includes peaceful protest.
@@Carryonandlaugh in the UK?
@@littleirishgirl in Australia. I was responding to OP. But we’re based off British rule so I am sure they have similar. Uk allows for petitions that gain over a certain number of signatories to be raised as an issue in their parliament. Not sure how it works but means the government has to address it. Also, Britain has had many protests as has Australia so not sure why people think you can’t.
I like you both, don’t always agree with everything anyone else says. 😊
I get it, Aussie girl. I fell upon the utube clip of opening statements in 🎬 "Justice for All." ( Al Pacino). Judge proclaims to defense, "You're out of order." ..defense to judge: "You're out of order, this trial is out of order....in an odd/funny way, i spiraled around to KR case.. It's out of order. It's no wonder everything on the " outside" is out of order... This KR case is rotten.
Agree 💯 Aussie Insider
thanks Aussie.. but people let’s have some grace…we all love EDB she is not the bad one in this case.. the goal is to get justice for John O’K, free KR and make the bad actors responsible (law enforcement, the lawyers, courts and all their civilian buddies) for the corruption and chaos they have brought in Canton and Mass.. let’s keep our eye on the goal. I am sure Karen is not going to loose any sleep over an EDB mistake.
Well said. Let’s keep our eye on the goal. Might I add, let’s not let the media divide us.
Well, it's important to correct this narrative. The #FKR supporters have made it a point to be respectful. They have a reputation to uphold because they don't want it to reflect badly on Karen. This is the ONLY footage I have seen where anything negative was done. The media is creating a false narrative...#FKR works hard because they don't want to cause trouble.
I never said EDB is bad or even made a mistake. This is an APPEAL to her good senses, a request to look further than the media propaganda. Stop making it out to be something it is not
If EDB sees this, I'd bet a digit she'll be thoroughly appreciative of your manner of discourse! Having said that, I don't know of any new developments in the past day or few but, I'm almost certain that during the trial coverage she has said "*if that's what's going on..." (she's quite conscientious about such things)- but hey, I know you have some razor sharp peepers! This comment is mostly just to admire your colloquy!
I saw 🐢 boy correcting the record on his show and he showed they were booing the guy who attacked Karen. And he stopped any booing of the family.
Yes Aussie❤
You are such a dear and I hope your point is well taken as it’s meant to be. It’s amazing how context can be misunderstood so often.
FYI....Last week A MSP cop recruit was beat to death by trainer.....Skull fracture, broken neck, teeth out.....What did he know? Was he too honest?
@@shecat1964 Enrique Delgado-Garcia was his name. It’s true look it up. Prayers to his family/friends ❤
It was during training with an instructor and it is being investigated. It happened during defensive tactics training. My condolences to the family.
It happened in a boxing ring where he was put up against a bigger more experience opponent who apparently bashed the proverbial 💩 out of him causing all the afore mentioned damage…. In the name of training . 😡
I call BS on that . Sean … (going through the motions ) broke the news virtually just after the young recruit passed. Just more of the same it seems out of these thugs. 😡
FKR… FTB, sweet justice for JOK .🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Emily is a member of the B.A.R. As an Attorney her first responsibility is to the court.
and the court's responsibility is to the public, as I have explained here
@@AussieInsider 🎯
never judge a book buy its cover ,never judge a person on first impression, never judge. take the time to find out it may shock you
I'm so glad you put this together. I was pretty upset when I heard her repeat the lies put out by the media. I was actually shocked at her commentary on this and said so in a comment on her stream, so thank you. You do it with much more calmness and reason :)
👏🏼👏🏼🙏💜☮️ Well done Aussie 👍🏻👍🏻
Atta girl!! When I first saw that crap, I, too, thought they were booing the family, BUT someone straightened me out as I said it looked like that. I am so happy someone told me what was happening, AND I saw Turtleboy lecturing the crowd IN CASE someone was booing the fam. It is difficult to live them but it's never, ever be ok with them being booed. Peggy & that RBF cousin were horrible a few times in the courtroom, but... despite their manners, they are there for reasons I pray I never have to feel. And, if I do, I pray I won't be ugly to people at all. The ones they were being ugly too certainly didn't deserve that & I think, personally, they should've be scolded for their actions but I'm sure Lally would never find them at fault despite the fact they most certainly were. The hatred of Karen is bizarre to me. I've had mothers of men I've dated diamond be but haven't ever been treated as badly as John's family treat Karen. Course, there's never been a death in the middle. When my husband died his family was pretty despicable to me, now that I think of it. I'm pretty good at ignoring those who seem to only be able to be horrible. Thank God. I'd never want to act like those I've seen acting so ugly. Where does it get us? Love, but hate! It takes just as much effort. I chose indifference if I find I simply can't agree. Hugs, love, & very well said!!
costs nothing to listen, but a little time xxx
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I’m Australian, I live in Melbourne and am struggling so much w our political and social climate rn & what to do with my passion and care before the systemically created barriers to social organising that we seem to face, as well as the chronic intellectual dishonesty, bleak everything else is. So this brought a tear to my eye!! I suspect we have similar pulls towards these cases the corruption the community disruption happening w our friends in Norfolk county. Canton: whose resistance & solidarity & earnestness we’re not socially permitted…energise me daily, w awe. I respect the hell out of this post. You’re thoughtful smart and grounded and I didn’t know about this but still got so much out of your reflection overall. I’ll have to link up with you on another platform and connect! ❤
🥰 mezmerelda007 on X
I saw that. I was wondering what she was talking about. I adore EDB. After the Johnny Depp Trial, she should know that the media is not exactly reliable with the truth. I hope she sees this. 💜
I totally agree 💯🙌!!
Why does anyone adore a TH-cam creator? Emily is just a person. Rather strident and full of herself. TH-cam creators tend to get big egos and become obnoxious. They should not be worshipped.
Push back is essential when these people with shows get it wrong. The audience often knows more than the TH-cam creator.
Adoring someone and worshipping them are two separate things. There are many amazing youtube creators..especially in the #FKR movement. Unlike most communities they respect and support each other and there's no in-fighting. That is quite remarkable in my opinion
@@notnow7973 I adore EDB because I choose to. She has principles and a strong moral compass. She is funny and really knowledgeable about the law. We need more lawyers like her. You human your way, I human my way.
I didn't like EDB basically giving out to Karen for treating the children badly. She totally believed what was put in the O'Keefe civil lawsuit. I don't believe Karen treated Kaley in the way the document suggested. She was close to the children and did care about their welfare. Of course the morning she was looking for John she was quite frantic and worried, and rightly so - he had been beaten up and was actually dying on the lawn of 34 Fairview. Her worry and actions at that may possibly have just saved his life - unfortunately he was either too injured or been outside for too long at that point. She didn't kill him but she may have just saved him, by trying to locate him at that point. Clearly, losing their uncle was absolutely horrendous for the children but I don't think Karen behaved as callously as the civil filing suggests.
I agree and the sad thing is she could not talk to them anymore either. I am sure her lawyer told her not to. The kids got double the loss in 1 night.
I am very grateful for your vlog on this subject. I have watched Emily since the Depp trial.
I'm of the opinion that she made an enormous error of judgement on this trial.
She decided at the outset to not listen to any news or outside information on this case prior to watching so as to not mix up facts.
Unfortunately, she didn't recognise the laborious vagueness and crappy explanation from Lally was all a big act, to coincide with Fudge Bevs controlling aircon, whilst there's probably a huge radiator blasting heat 🥵 🔥 under the jurors. Fanning the flames Sgt Fanning was a witness in charge of them too.
Bev fudged up the exhibits to further create confusion, also made lally object without citing reasoning for the objection, to veil more for appeals later on and calling them to the bench each time; thus shielding the public from finding out the truth.
Emily fell hook line and sinker for the rhetoric of the macalberts.
After 2 episodes i stopped watching her and was relieved to continue watching Andrea Burkhart.
It's really left me wondering if I want to go back to Emily's channel. I adore her humour, but she often speaks over the testimony and misses stuff.
This is why i far prefer Andrea's channel. She makes notes and explains during sidebars, or if it's really important pauses the video.
When things are this important; so corrupt we cannot afford to take such a blasé attitude towards testimony and coverage of trials.
Public trials are for transparency, I want transparency. Thank you so much for your very hard work on this.
Love from the UK.
One thing to understand about EDB is she went into the trial cold, not wanting to be immersed in all the miscellaneous background info and internet rumors. She wanted to know as much as the jury would know, which is only what was presented in court. She's mentioned wanting to do a deep dive on everything available, but only after the court proceedings are done. As a result I wouldn't expect her to go hunting up videos or talking to anyone about any part of the cases background or he said/she said stuff until after its all complete. Nothing she's said was even vaguely anti protest, which this video insinuates. Only that if negative words or booing were directed at the family as per reports then its something that shouldn't happen. I imagine her stance would be negativity shouldn't be directed at anyone involved.
Exactly. She's a former prosecutor. She only looks at cases based on court docs and transcripts until the trial is over. It is part of the reason I like her. She truly remains unbiased and goes solely on the facts presented in court. Just my opinion.
Aussie is just trying to make the point that the #FKR supporters were not and have not booed the O'Keefe's. That's it.
Aussie is rightfully clarifying for Emily so that Emily doesn't think or insinuate that folks were booing the O'Keefe's. They were not. It's important to clarify that because we do not want to perpetuate that false narrative. Emily seemed to not be clear on that point because 20/20 inaccurately spun a narrative, so it was imperative that the narrative be corrected.
Where I live the snow is very wet. 18 inches can totally destroy your car. Mass snow looks dry. Does that change the way blood or body weight would appear? Also why no one saw foot prints of Jen running into and back out of the house. That was why the police decided John didn't go in
I will have to respectfully disagree. If the family is being escorted by the police, and you boo the police, you are in the wrong. You can boo police, I have no problem with that. But to do that while they are escorting the family is foolish - how does anyone know who you are booing? How do they know you are booing the police with the family or the family themselves?
In MHO, if the family is there, no one should be booing anyone. It is just a sign of respect and acknowledgement that whatever their opinion, they are grieving.
Thank you for saying what we were ALL thinking (and yelling at the video, lol) ❤❤❤
THANK YOU Aussie!!! I am sooo sick of hearing about this ❤❤
I watched 1 of Emily's uploads about 6 months ago, and it wasn't for me ..far too arrogant for a creator..
Yeah I was confused by her statement, because I have never seen anyone jeering at/ booing the family. If they had footage of this, wouldn’t the media CONSTANTLY play reruns of it? I didn’t watch the 2020 episode, but if they actually had footage of this happening, why didn’t they just show it? All we have are unsubstantiated claims by people we KNOW to have a clear bias. I know she might feel that expressing doubt on the validity of such claims is disrespectful, but given how many misrepresentations and falsehoods have been spread in this case, not taking every claim at face value is the responsible thing to do .
I think she doesn’t have enough context. She focuses on so many other cases etc. if she had the context - she would not have said all of that. I was telling back at my tv like “EMILY NO NO YOU KNOW THATS NOT TRUE” 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for explaining. While I'm sad for the loss of the family, I have to be honest. If they were booing at the family, I wouldn't mind because they don't know what really happened. Instead of trying to find out, they made their mind up and blame Karen. Now they try to ruin her. Maybe she drank too much, but so did the other people. Grieve or no grieve, you can't go ruin someone's life only because you think you know. BTW, what did they talk about with the Alberts? So, I don't care about the booing, sorry.
They never talk about how drunk John was and his responsiblity for his drunkeness...
@@Nannygoat-h8oThis! If Karen had run over a small child, perhaps John could be prosecuted as an accessory to drunk driving. Even if she did hit him, I’m sure it was an accident, and I doubt John would want her to be prosecuted. BUT, still wrong to boo the family, IMO. They’ve been through a lot. Terrible loss.
I agree, Petra. I'm going through a carbon-copy of this dynamic in my family's case. The family of the deceased gets public sympathy by default, but when they add that weight to falsely accuse another, that sympathy should vanish and they are worthy of being booed. Strike that -- it's an ethical obligation to boo at that point.
@@AussieInsider what do you mean? I listened to the video. I understand that you denied people booed the family and don’t support booing the family. But in this reply thread in which my comment is made, @ PetraWillemd (sp?) said it was OK to do that. You “hearted” her comment.
@@epyx88yes I agree. Being a family member doesn’t preclude them from being wrong. They aren’t above the law either. Their behavior should be examined as it pertains to securing Justice for John O’Keefe. If they are interfering with a just outcome, this should be held up to the light.
Turtle dude crossed the line. So I WILL speak up and say the FKR protestors have been out of line. There is a fine line between protesting and harassment. That said, after watching the first trial from start to finish Karen should be free.
Do we have a defector from the MensaCult? You got it half right..hopefully you'll make it all the way 🤟🤟🤟
🐢 stopped the booing and some booing was for a guy who attacked Karen physically outside the courthouse. 🐢 is raunchy and rude so Not for everyone but he gets juror interviews.
turtleboy turtleboy turtleboy dun dun dunnnnnnnn! I think you need this th-cam.com/video/BFfEssp2yro/w-d-xo.html
🐢 didn't cross any line. He is 100% okay in asking those questions!
It's no surprise that the mainstream media lets say "streamline" (in order to avoid "twist") perceptions.
It's easy to do with camera angles and cuts.
Emily herself was flabbergasted at how seamlessly the Amber Heard interview was cut to make her look better, after we saw the devastating raw footage before.
For Emily to just echo things she heard on the grapevine, does disappoint me a little.
I watched the EDB video to this point and then I shut it off. All she did was prove that she believes TV propaganda is honest and truthful, and my estimation of her sank accordingly. I appreciate what you're doing here for truth and the FKR supporters!
Did I miss something? Is the conversation with EDB re: messages from your viewers about The Issue, online? Does she confirm in the conversation with u that this issue may cause confusion? People "I adore" question me to my face (txt) b4 they post anything. I see what u r trying to achieve, however, a little passive aggressive with all due respect. #FKR
I did indeed reach out before I uploaded this
@@AussieInsider there’s not a hint of passive aggression x
Sorry, I don’t care for EDB. She’s a little self righteous. My opinion.
I did not watch the 20/20 episode as I had a feeling they would skew the truth. I gave up on MSM a long time ago as a source of the truth.
I love EDB but her take on this case hasn't been my absolute favorite. I get that she is very pro-victim's family, HOWEVER, the behavior shown by JO's family has not been very good or well received. I actually stopped watching her videos about this case because I just don't like her stance and it's very obvious this is a corruption and frame case but she is still on the fence imo and I just can't get behind that. But normally, I can't watch a case without her and I actually watched the whole trial WITH her but not the post trial content much.
Not everyone is as obsessed with this case as this sector of individuals (FKR). Just understand this mindset is part of why people (myself included starting post-trial/verdict) find the FKR groups & mindset upsetting. God forbid your mind doesn’t meld with everyone else’s.
Imo, a weird take, but it’s a common one among the FKR crowd. It’s your business if someone not being 100% one way or another bothers you. (A mindset I “blame” 🐢 boy for endorsing/amplifying) But being upset that someone is “fence-sitting” is weird.
Eta: EDB is choosing to focus on the facts of the case (as a juror)and not so much the corruption aspect. Which I appreciate. There are other lawyers to watch that share your viewpoint and cover the corruption aspect and have experience dealing with corruption like Aty Melanie little or aty mark bedrow. EDB doesn’t have to be your source of everything.
Eta2: moved paragraph 1 to the middle..
Eta3: I’ve divested from all KR content, I’ll check in once in a while. Now that it’s obvious that FBI is investigating the corruption in the area I’m specifically following THAT and the Sarah Birchmore case..
Turtleboy Turtleboy Turtleboy Dun Dun Dunnnnnnnnn th-cam.com/video/YU4fzZYSy48/w-d-xo.html
I find EDB to be arrogant and full of herself. Humility is necessary in these cases. No one can know everything. The audience often knows more than the content creator.
@@notnow7973 She's no more arrogant than the other 330 million Americans on this planet are.
EDB, I like her too, but she is a prosecutor and so biased. Her followers agree with her blindly. She is entertaining but that’s about it. Entertainment is not what true followers of the Read case are about.
This isn’t the first time Emily has fallen for an inaccurate media narrative. She made a very distasteful short about Breonna Taylor shortly after she was wrongly killed by police. She said something like, “well, don’t date drug dealers & this kind of thing won’t happen.” Had she have done a tiny bit of research/googling, she would have seen that she wasn’t dating a drug dealer, there was already was info of police misconduct and the police were very much in the wrong. Some have been fired, retired, and/or have an upcoming trial in October
This comment is the Opposite of the spirit of Aussie’s message and is really disappointing.
I think it’s really great to point out pattens like this, it helps ppl feel ok to address matters important like Aussie is here. It’s in the spirit of content creation to feedback and no one’s above taking it. Just re pushback you got below. To take someone else’s comment reminding us she’s apart of the BAR association and her responsibility is to the court first - I’ll leave that as it stands but in general for me I thought it’s a great reminder for us to keep in mind the lens and perspectives grounding the creators we watch. Lawyers educate us and explain the process and language as their expertise clearly but they aren’t the ones to challenge structural power with social commentary per say that’s what the protestors are for and our discussion is for. So I thinks really healthy to be collaborating our learning as we go together x
What!!!!If that's true I definitely don't intend to ever watch her again. She's never been my favorite lawtuber. I couldn't put my finger on it. Note to self: Always trust my instincts.
@Guyvermectin Wow I’ve never heard that theory. Very interesting. All of the articles & documents I’ve seen don’t mention human shields, operating a “stash house” or a body found in her car. I did see that when the did catch the guy they were looking for, they offered him a great plea deal if he told police that breonna was involved with his “business,” but he turned them down (at least he had some morals and didn’t lie to get a reduced sentence). The actual boyfriend was cleared of any charges they tried to push on him from that night, one of the officers quickly retired, another officer was criminally charged for firing many many rounds indiscriminately and into other apartments, there is an upcoming court case in October regarding the shoddy police work that night. That’s quite the fall out if the police did nothing wrong as you are implying…
We all can fall for inaccuracies in the media. I thought that’s why many of us we seek the facts via independent media. I don’t fault her for believing that at first, I mean I did as well. But as soon as I learned the truth, I was deeply upset & horrified. Did she ever correct that statement?
Ok. Lol
Thought the same Aussie...it kinda put a sour taste in my mouth with EBD ...I was disappointed that she obviously hasn't watched streams fully
please someone link me to the video youre talking about I cant find it thank you
check the pinned comment
You're absolutely correct AussieInsider. I heard EDB on the QuickBits the other day make reference to spectators booing the O'Keefe family not being cool and felt at the time that sometimes she is a little too quick to comment on some ancilliary events surrounding a trial without full fact checking. I believe she would be the first one to accept constructive criticism such as this positively too.
thanks heaps.. but it wasn't criticism. It was an appeal
Since you asked…I don’t love the cursy words. They’re so entirely over-used that they no longer have any originality or effect. To me, they’ve become fillers for people who have nothing better to say.
Thank you so much, Aussie, for making this appeal.
Emily is not the only lawtuber who just accepted & repeated the media narrative (which ultimately came from the O’Keefe’s) without fact-checking. It’s just very disappointing, because EDB ordinarily is very dedicated to facts and sensitive to red-flag situations.
I hope EDB hears your appeal and corrects herself.
Respectfully I think you need to brush up on the American Judicial system. The courts are not going to let a bunch of protesters dictate what they do with the KR case, and no matter who or what they were reacting to any amount of booing or acting out is going to be frowned upon. The law likes order and protests are not orderly. Furthermore Emily is a Lawyer at heart and is only looking at this case as a jurist. She’s not going to get involved in the Conspiracy Theories and noise that do nothing but distract from the facts of the case. Let’s let KR’s legal team handle this one shall we?
We are also a commonwealth, founded on the same principles
Isn't that EXACTLY what the 1st amendment addresses. Or do you think the "American Judical" system is not part of "the government". The courts ARE the government. If the protests were about a defendant being released that the public didn't agree with the courts and the police would not dislike that. Funny the way that works isn't it! KR's legal team is not going to speak with creators, they have way more on their plate than the need to do that. Comprehend that shall we?
Also KR's legal team have nothing to do with the protesters. They're protesting for their own reasons and I am speaking up for them
I think you misunderstand what the objective of protesting is because it’s certainly not to dictate anything to anyone.
I’m part of the American Judicial system and I actually find this comment DISrespectful! 🤔 it’s the right of the public to protest and fight for the rights of people being wronged! Many of the rights we experience today didn’t happen because the “courts dictated” it, its because of brave people like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Susan B Anthony, Nelson Mandela, etc..I could keep going! Sometimes it’s important to make some noise when people arent listening. It’s been done in a respectful way with the goal ALWAYS focused on justice! And THAT is all ANYBODY should be concerned about when it comes to our judicial system. Lawyer, judge, jurist, etc..🤗💜
Personally I hate when content creators use curse words...to me it dimishes their content.
I'm very sceptical of these "lawtubers". If they were in any way competent as attorneys they wouldn't have time to be hosting livestream coverage of trials.
The reliance on swear words is revolting.
@@geoffpoole483 If attorneys were competent they would be retired by 45.
@@geoffpoole483 she & her family live in a different state than the one where she was licensed to practice. She chose to go a different route in her career, most of which is consulting & legal analysis outside of TH-cam, as well as start her channel because she likes it and isn't practicing anymore. TH-cam aside, her career path changed lanes a little & apparently allows for more time to do the stuff she likes - like her channel.
Her husband is a doctor in TN & she was a prosecutor in CA. I think your assumption is a little bit uninformed, at least for her situation specifically. That may be the case for someone else, but a lot of the lawtubers I watch have the time because they were fortune enough to retired early or own their own practice & have the ability & resources to make the time to do what they love & share it with people.
emily is a prosecutor, shes not as nice as you all think she is. you can see her true prosecutor self leak through a little bit in her videos.
that's not a bad thing... if you only watch those who confirm your bias then that's the very definition of Confirmation Bias
I don't watch Emily when she speaks about the karen read case now. She goes only by what she sees in court and court filings. And her opinion on the 20/20 interview. She doesn't watch other channels in this case if she does I haven't heard her say so. And the problem I have with that is everything she has watched or read is so anti-Karen Read that it sickens me to watch. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I agree but you don't have to watch. I don't say anything just stopped watching ❤
Again she is slamming other content creators including the law tubers and it is unacceptable if you see this EDB do better you making assumptions just makes you look ignorant and bias
umm, not sure you watched the video. There was no "slamming", only asking Emily to take the time to look into it. Pretty sure I don't need to spell it out to Emily, but you might wanna look up what "appeal" means 🤷🏽♀️