This exam destroyed my plan A career, i scored 250 in step 1, 254 in ck, and because i could not type in english very fast i failed, i dont think anyone who passed step 1 and ck do not know how to do physical exam, thank god yhey cancel it permenantly
IMG's would normally be required to take this exam as well as others that test English proficiency. Another exam that you may still be required to take would be the English Language Proficiency Assessment to get ECFMG certification. I'm not 100% sure how this would affect that process.
Im a 1st year in the umkc program. I know this is exciting for upper years who have already taken step 1, but what will the residences use to evaluate us now? Our step 1 is pass/fail.
@@WeightsAreFriends Great question guys. This Step 2 CS exam was NEVER used to evaluate students for residencies. Its pass/fail and has a 96% pass rate. All the residency program sees is that you pass and since so many people do on their first try, this is just a formality and really just a money grab from us. Step 1 being pass/fail also may be challenging. It will likely mean that step 2 (still a numerical score) will have more importance, as will your rotation grades, letters of recommendation, and your away rotation performance. Feel free to reach out to me if you guys have any more questions about how it affects us at UMKC. I'm in y'alls groupme!
Depends on your situation. If you are an IMG, there will be different pathways for EMFMG certification. If you are a US grad, then just USMLE step 1 and step 2 CK and step 3 once in residency.
ECFMG is updating their pathways so we have to wait and see for now but it seems like they are making changes so that so many IMGs won't be excluded for their new pathways
@@Marvin-vd5nv dude im just starting out med school. I needed clarification. Even though im in south asia's #1 Medical school , match rate as a non US img is tough so every step counted i feel
@@missphysicslover6076 Ah okay. Yeah as far as I know, having strong scores in step1 (if you do it this year) as well as step2 ck and having clinical experience in the US with good LORs is way more helpful. If you wanna top that, you can add step3 on top before applying.... I'm still a student myself thou, so don't take that for bare coin, that's just what everyone seems to say :)
As of now we don't know what or if any changes will take place. As of now there is no test to take because they have stopped the efforts to administer it. Who knows what they will come up with or if they will try to replace it with something else but for now its too soon to tell.
Hello, I have two questions : I will do step 1 in October 2021, step 2 CK in March 2022. Do I also have to do step 2 cs or is the step 2 cs test omitted, because I did step 1 in 2021 ? (I am IMG). And last question how long would you suggest to learn for the step 1, step 2 ck, step 2 cs and step 3 for a good Rank (surgery) ? Thank you very much :)
Well,think only step3 should b enough for assessment of IMGs for ECFMG certification.or after step1 ,2Ck,,,step 3 only be CCS....there is no fun going through 9hrs drill for 4 times😏
Step 2 CS is cancelled so no need to prepare for it. but IMGs still have to wait for an official announcement from ECFMG on how things may change for IMGs There are a lot videos here on youtube for the best resources for step 1 and step 2 ck. They should help!
@Sarah M I understand that's what the old pathways for the 2021 match said but the ECFMG announced yesterday they will be modifying the 5 pathways and will be adding a 6th pathway. So they may make a change to the 2 attempt rule that they had before. We just have to wait and see www.ecfmg.org/news/
I would say so! Incredibly high pass rates doesn't do much for students or programs other than take money. It's like assessing a teacher's ability to teach based on knowing "1+1". If everyone or almost everyone passes, whats the point of the test? Saved me over 1000$ :)
I’m loving how the pandemic has shaken up the old school medical school system, goodbyeeeee cash grabbing test 🥳
Absolutely!
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Step 2 CS being cancelled
Thanks, Glad you liked it!
This exam destroyed my plan A career, i scored 250 in step 1, 254 in ck, and because i could not type in english very fast i failed, i dont think anyone who passed step 1 and ck do not know how to do physical exam, thank god yhey cancel it permenantly
I hope they do not make the others exams impossible
What about for IMGs?
IMG's would normally be required to take this exam as well as others that test English proficiency. Another exam that you may still be required to take would be the English Language Proficiency Assessment to get ECFMG certification. I'm not 100% sure how this would affect that process.
@Roo Naj IMGs still have to wait for an official announcement from ECFMG now that STEP 2 CS is officially cancelled
@@MDPowerhouse so true. The waiting game is getting exhausting...
You need to take OET Medicine exam in order to apply for the ECFMG cert
Im a 1st year in the umkc program. I know this is exciting for upper years who have already taken step 1, but what will the residences use to evaluate us now? Our step 1 is pass/fail.
I am a first year too and this was my first question. At first I was excited but then I thought about it and had tons of questions.
@@WeightsAreFriends Great question guys. This Step 2 CS exam was NEVER used to evaluate students for residencies. Its pass/fail and has a 96% pass rate. All the residency program sees is that you pass and since so many people do on their first try, this is just a formality and really just a money grab from us. Step 1 being pass/fail also may be challenging. It will likely mean that step 2 (still a numerical score) will have more importance, as will your rotation grades, letters of recommendation, and your away rotation performance. Feel free to reach out to me if you guys have any more questions about how it affects us at UMKC. I'm in y'alls groupme!
Good question, I wondered this also
may I have your honest opinion about this with regards to IMGs on their journey in their USMLE in the future?
I think that depends a lot on ECFMG and they haven't made an announcement about how this will affect IMGs as yet
Thanks!
Do u know apart from the steps now that the step 2 cs is cancelled what other tests have to be taken?
Depends on your situation. If you are an IMG, there will be different pathways for EMFMG certification. If you are a US grad, then just USMLE step 1 and step 2 CK and step 3 once in residency.
@@jacobpereramd8094 Thank you!
Is this going to be temporarily ?
Are they replacing it with something something else ?
As of right now they have no plans of bringing it back or replacing it with anything. Only time will tell!
I don't think so oet would be easy...the passing percentage of oet is less then cs
Terrible test(OET), people will regret they are cheering for this decision
@@alialhaidary2210 they do just for the american students to get benefit...fmg's will affect more.. remember this words of mine
What about non US imgs?
They are gone for good?🙂
Forget a surgical residency, IM is outta the window
ECFMG is updating their pathways so we have to wait and see for now but it seems like they are making changes so that so many IMGs won't be excluded for their new pathways
Isn't CS pass/fail with around 90 sth. % passing rate? So does it even make a difference whether you did it or not?
@@Marvin-vd5nv dude im just starting out med school. I needed clarification. Even though im in south asia's #1 Medical school , match rate as a non US img is tough so every step counted i feel
@@missphysicslover6076 Ah okay. Yeah as far as I know, having strong scores in step1 (if you do it this year) as well as step2 ck and having clinical experience in the US with good LORs is way more helpful. If you wanna top that, you can add step3 on top before applying....
I'm still a student myself thou, so don't take that for bare coin, that's just what everyone seems to say :)
@@missphysicslover6076 But, if you look at the data, the states need imgs for some specialities (IM, family e.g.). And they will continue to do so...
What would be better
Taking it before or after the new changes?
As of now we don't know what or if any changes will take place. As of now there is no test to take because they have stopped the efforts to administer it. Who knows what they will come up with or if they will try to replace it with something else but for now its too soon to tell.
Hello, I have two questions : I will do step 1 in October 2021, step 2 CK in March 2022. Do I also have to do step 2 cs or is the step 2 cs test omitted, because I did step 1 in 2021 ? (I am IMG).
And last question how long would you suggest to learn for the step 1, step 2 ck, step 2 cs and step 3 for a good Rank (surgery) ?
Thank you very much :)
Well,think only step3 should b enough for assessment of IMGs for ECFMG certification.or after step1 ,2Ck,,,step 3 only be CCS....there is no fun going through 9hrs drill for 4 times😏
Step 2 CS is cancelled so no need to prepare for it. but IMGs still have to wait for an official announcement from ECFMG on how things may change for IMGs
There are a lot videos here on youtube for the best resources for step 1 and step 2 ck. They should help!
@@sumeraijaz3989 Thank you 😊
@@MDPowerhouse thanks :)
I have a video all about my step 2 CK experience and even share my score and how I got it. Make sure to check that out!
I would like to know the best source for OET exam for you guys ??
People with 2 attempts in steps,are they eligible to even apply
Shouldn't prevent you from applying!
@sarah M Definitely check out the new ECFMG update too just in case
@@MDPowerhouse it says if you have 2 attempts or more in any step you do not qualify for any of the pathways
@Sarah M I understand that's what the old pathways for the 2021 match said but the ECFMG announced yesterday they will be modifying the 5 pathways and will be adding a 6th pathway. So they may make a change to the 2 attempt rule that they had before. We just have to wait and see
www.ecfmg.org/news/
Good news I guess
I would say so! Incredibly high pass rates doesn't do much for students or programs other than take money. It's like assessing a teacher's ability to teach based on knowing "1+1". If everyone or almost everyone passes, whats the point of the test? Saved me over 1000$ :)
@@jacobpereramd8094 what about non us imgs???
So huge haha and I love it 😂