I loved this game when I was younger, the atmosphere in deserted locations was incredible. I always played as Luger and most of the time used her OP secondary laser shot for her smg (it was one headshot kill on default on enemies).
The thing I remember and actually loved most about this game was how awesome the reload animations looked. I actually liked that the character looked more down at his weapon as it made the game feel more immersive.
Indigo Gaming so why is Halo 5 still so popular? It’s always among the top 20 most played Xbox Live games. No it’s not #1 like back in the Halo 2/3 days, it doesn’t have to be.
Jonah Dominguez ODST, Halo 4, Halo 5. It’s stupid to say it’s the last Halo game just because it’s the last one you liked. Halo 5 is obviously the most recent Halo game.
Nachos TV that’s a bunch of nonsense. Games evolve, and the core gameplay is the same. Please enlighten me, what does a true Halo game consists of that Halo 5 doesn’t have?
@@49mozzer The Helgast were minding their own business. Through smarts and stable planning they managed to built a strong economic foundation colonizing Vekta and Helgan ( a world of life and a world of resources). The ISA crew envious of the success of the Helgast launched an invasion against the peaceful Helgast ,robbing them of their homes on Vekta , destroying the works of the Helgast people and forcing the survivors to survive on the hellish but resource rich Helgan. The lore of the Killzone series is much better then it really deserves or needs to be, worth a look if you ever get a chance.
@@49mozzer Ending of KZ3 was dumb anyway. It made it impossible to really carry on the story in any logical way. I was hoping they would play more into the Helgan civil war that kicked of at the end of 3. Have a planet split in two between the Old Guard and the new Technocrats. Maybe ISA trying to maintain humanitarian aid to civilians during the fighting. Would have made a better background for a game then we got.
Thank you for taking the time to do a review on this franchise, it is by far one of my most favorites. I remember playing the first game as a kid and I also remember how hyped I was when my dad got me the Killzone 3 + Rifle control bundle for the PlayStation eye.
@@NolanAlighieri I don't think roguelike fits in with the others. "Something-killer or clone" are derrogatory, roguelikes pretty much pay homage to rogue which was a novelty when released and sounds better than "turn-based, tile-based RPG with permadeath" or even roguelites, that also sounds more appealing than "game with permadeath and meta progression". Well, that's just my two cents :o
@@evrimenustun9548 Yeah, Souls-like is actually a useful comparison, even if it is way to broadly applied. DOOM-Clone, GTA-Clone, and Halo-Killer are all comparing mechanics, which is way, way to broad. Souls-like though compares underlying structure. You can have a ton of different types of mechanics in use, but if the structure is similar enough, it's fair enough to call it Souls-like.
Killzone should've let you play as the Helghast rather than the lame ISA. Too bad Killzone Shadow Fall pretty much killed the franchise. Needs a reboot/remake. Rico becomes a total ahole in the later games lol. Hail Helghan...
I'd rather them focus on the beauty and creativity that Horizon is. Killzone has plenty of games under its belt, they wanted to do something different, and it actually did well. Be proud of what they've turned in to.
a lot of them were good games though! all the killzone trilogy games are good, resistance 3 and 2 are great games by insomniac and mag was just batshit crazy back then(that many peopole in a FPS) i hope they continue some of this series with Strong titles in near future...
Yeah and a few of those games were incredible. Btw, Sony didn't use the "Halo killer" moniker, it was usually dumb ass publications and garbage websites like IGN.
The term Doom Clone is not what you said. The thing is that what we call today the FPS genre didn't have an established name until 1996/97 when Quake and DN3D were out. Until then all shooters were 2.5D with comparable technology to Doom, and because Doom came first, the rest were just called Doom Clones by default. Doom was such a breakthrough in technology back then that for years it was used as the name to call the genre entirely, so it wasn't until we got another breakthrough with fully 3D rendered games that FPS started to be used. Therefore calling Dark Forces and Strife Doom Clones is correct... and much shorter than "sprite-based old school first person shooters".
I love the Killzone games. But you're right, the controls in the first game really are wonky. I was adjusting the sensitivity of Killzone 2 over halfway into the game! Killzone 3's controls were finally good enough at default setting that it felt like a playable fps. Visually and storywise the Killzone games have always been good though.
MonsterHunter 66 you put us on planet where we were horribly mutated for decades costing millions of lives and forcing us to create an authoritarian hell scape to survive then when we demand to go to planet that won’t kill us you told us to fuck off and die so now your saying there blame on both side get out of here with that shit we just try to finish what you started the race war starts now
They really didn't though which is the cool thing about killzone's setting, used up and cast aside to die they're fairly well justified in their revenge I say
@Sgt. Digas LMAO its the same as to say the Germans had no reason to start WW2 hahahahahah but this time the Hellghast didnt even did anything wrong just lived in peace and then got dumped on a Hellworld and abondend by the ISA and your wondering why the Hellghast hate them and see them as nonhumans ..... the ISA treated them like cattle and so do they .....
@@drunkenhowler22 Lame jokes, you mean in TS? I don't find them lame at all, lol. And you do know that TimeSplitters has been acquired by THQ Nordic? They're working on something.
I knew a kid back in high school who used the term "Halo Killer" in real life, but he thought Haze would be the one strike down Halo, not Killzone. Boy oh boy did he sip the koolaid... he hyped Haze up to Duke Nuk-Em Forever levels. That kid was so convinced and passionate in his argument that some of us actually started to believe him... not because we didn't know any better, but because he was so filled with hope that it became contagious. Then Haze released, and screwed the metaphorical pooch in the front lawn for the whole neighborhood to see. The other kids never let him live it down, his sophmore and junior years were defined by ridicule and shame. Someone even went to the trouble of slipping a Haze game case into his locker, but with a Halo CE disc inside instead. hey were so mean that when he switched schools his senior year, everybody thought it was because of Haze, and the disgrace he brought upon his family name. R.I.P. Kyle, wherever you are.
My people... sons and daughters of helgan... for manny years we have been a broken nation... SHANKED.. OPRESSED.. AND QONCUIRED BY THOSE WE SET TO ESCAPE... 10 years ago i asked for time.. and that time got granted by you...YOU . the strenght in my arm.. the holders of my dreams.. All i remeber from the intro on my ps2.
Fat chance, that'd be downright misrepresentation - it was the blooming advertising campaign for the game. They WANTED that insipid phrase to be in everyone's brain when thinking of the game.
@TIGHTT88 The intro and premise had potential but you just end up mowing generic faceless soldiers so it's more of a wasted potential than anything else. Also for a sci fi game it felt really generic at least for me. You still just went in usual factory and urban areas or open areas with not that much to see.
Hakha is more accurate with the Helghast weapons though. Templar and the other ISA characters are less accurate to reflect the fact that they are unfamiliar with the weapons. Also, the Sta52 is intended to be more of a "massed assault, fire full auto from the hip" kind of weapon and not designed to be hyper accurate to begin with, (at least lorewise)
I love this game. For me is the best ps2 shooter, better than "Black". I remember playing deathmatch with friends and it was awesome. All the different guns, the graphics, the light and skyboxes where so damn great. That camera shake when loading or throwing grenade, I think is inmersive, and makes it more intense. Now that you point out the lack of music... I didn't even notice and I play this game for sooo much. I still think this game deserves more attention and glory. The grey palette, the history, really think that the helgast are the bad ones.. Maybe is not that good but absolutely halo m8.
The Shotgun is actually super dope when you find out you can use primary and alt fire at the same time for a triple blast. It's range can't be saved though lol
This game still has one of the best intros and music in videogame history. Joris absolutely nailed it. I remember being on one of the first samole orchestral music composers forum and he send there demos he made for the Killzone, what a talent!
@@MusKubium Never finished it but that first level has fantastic atmosphere the rest don't which is a bummer but that first level will always stick with me.
another interesting gimmick was level traversal. Rico couldn't use ladders so he had to take direct routes. luger could climb ropes and hakha could walk through laser mines, so they could flank and get the drop on enemies. this along with the unique weapons they each had encouraged different play styles
I've dug out the PS2 to play this again, and I swear I have more fun on the original than Shadow Fall on PS4. I like on hard difficiculty having to actually take cover from dropships and APCs, to run for dear life when I hear "frag out!", and for my weapon choices to be more about the situation I'm going into than just personal preference. And the mist (not draw distance!) on certain levels keeping you lost and unable to tell where you're getting shot from, that's a deliberate game mechanic to make the Helghast that extra bit scarier. And it works, at least for the first play through. On Shadow Fall, even on hard all that tension is lost. The campaign is filled with enemies deliberately placed to give you free knife kills, and all the rest can be easily ambushed by using the 'tactical echo' basically a wall hack, taking all the challenge out of manoeuvring. The more you dig into it, the worse it gets: Heavy, mandatory auto-aim, a personal attack drone with infinite health and ammo that can do the whole campaign by itself, suicidal enemies who'll run into danger for no reason. The only fun you can have with it is by imposing some arbitrary rule on yourself, like try do this whole section with melee only. I shouldn't have to be resorting to stuff like that.
Killzone has no difficulty balance what so ever, I played the game on easy and I got shredded by Helgast in later levels it's been almost two years and my uncle stumbled upon a greatest hits edition that I swapped out from my standard release version and gave that to one of my friends. I'm on the 4th to last mission where you fight at a dam I guess or some kind of power plant or facility. It's after you traverse through a small desert area after the jungle levels is the best way to describe it, I never got around to beating it all that time ago.
Just beat the campaig for the first time, the halo killer marketing destroyed this game reputation. It ´s clearly its own thing, with a heavy tactical element like you described packed with a setting that resembles every war in history (vietnam, I-II World war)
I was like 10 or 11 when I first played this game and I have really fond memories of it. Nice to see it getting attention, one way or the other. I was never annoyed by the screen shake, if anything I thought the guns had an awesome kick to them. Very good video my man, good job.
Got it at the weekend & I have to say, I’m enjoying it a lot more then I did playing it on the PS2. The little improvements to me go a long way. Wicked review
A huge opportunity was missed to make this franchise memorable. They should have made the main character a propaganda fuelled rookie in the Helghan army and let him see the atrocities of war for the first time and be toughen by it. Part 2 could have focused on him returning to Helghan after the invasion and defending his home world from the ISA and see for himself how Visari is willing to sacrifice everything to defeat the ISA, even at the cost of Helghan cities and citizens. This would make him question his loyalty to Visari and the empire. Part 3 could have been about Helghan colonies from deep space planets arriving to Helghan to act as reinforcements against the ISA and they would learn of Virsari's inhumane actions and leadership and it would spark a civil war to forcefully remove Visari from office. Ultimately the ISA would have detonated the Petrusite during their escape from the planet and destroy most of Helghan and the main character would have survived and become hysterical. Vowing revenge against the ISA (a tease for a sequel). A nice way to subvert expectations since it would seem that the main character would defect and fight for the ISA. But the loss of his home world makes him just as xenophobic as Visari.
I always love when I see what the developers intended with these games. Which was that the Helghast was suppose to be the really bad guys. But people ended up loving them, and sympathizing with them. It's pretty damn funny. Because yeah, the Helghast are awesome as hell. Also, Rico sounded ALOT like Detective Nigel Bonaparte (Nigbone)
After playing it again definitely the first game needs a remaster and updated contols and I never brian Cox from super troopers was the voice actor for vasari still amazes me
Awesome review, been hoping you'd cover Killzone at some point. Killzone came out roughly somewhere when I was in 5th grade, and being younger to the genre most of the complaints went over my head (well that, and I barely knew much about online reviews at the time anyway). It was the first game I ever played with a sprint button and dedicated meter for starters, and unless I happened to have Battlefront first, it also made for the first shooter that I had that allowed me to play with bots and get a taste of a multiplayer experience before I even really knew what that was beyond 1v1 splitscreen. Between the awesome enemies with "cool voices", the different cast mechanics, the weighted controls, all the small details ranging from pre-killed bodies in some levels to taped magazines, and then stuff like the sprint function and bot mode, it was honestly one of the best games I had touched for its time. In retrospect, I get it though. Some of the designs are dated, the lack of checkpoints even had a returning player like me ragequitting the HD set for a period of time, and some elements just weren't as fascinating as what people had experienced with Half-life and Halo going on in the same time. To a kid who almost only knew the Medal of Honor PS2 trilogy, this stuff was a real gem to enter my house hold, but... to think it was actually pushed as a massive halo killer is hilariously naive. Still, looking forward to any future series on the other titles of the series. I think as it progressed, the games got better in keeping up with most standards, and on the whole its got to be one of my favorite military shooters even if they each entry have their own strange flaws.
I remember renting this game back in the day. Never knew it was supposed to be a "Halo killer", but since it was at the local Brokebuster, I didn't expect much since they mostly carried medíocre games. So I got home, played it for like 2 hours and went back to trade it for Forbidden Siren. I was shocked when I heard they were making a sequel to it, too, since the first one was so bad.
Watching this review for the 3rd time (as I play Killzone). Every time the video feels better and more accurate, as I advance in the game. Great content, mate!
Significantly better without doubt. Just the much more stable performance and smoother animations alone justify that. Killzone on Ps2 at least is hardly playable. Even Perfect Dark on N64 low res mode plays smoother.
In my opinion, the only "Halo killer" to ever appear on the PS2 was The Darkwatch: great graphics, great weapons, exciting gameplay with an option for co-op and good and original story. The thing is it also appeared in the Xbox, so that is it. HAHAHAHA
@@fuzzydunlop7928 for sure! It's actually a little scary like nazis overruling the city 17 or this game and there is nothing you can do about it if you are a normal citizen unless you are elike Gordon Freeman or something
The Killzone series was the first FPS I’ve ever played and even though they aren’t the best games in the world, they have a special place in my heart, but I enjoy hearing others opinions about it, good video btw
Killzone? I remembered Killzone 3, and have yet to get into the series. Thanks for the review, G! I own me a PS2 slim (and a fat), and this review has inspired me to pick it up.
@Gggmanlives, you didn't say anything about the multiplayer, it was a halo Killer, according to the multiplayer bots were actuslly inclusive, and the games were fun and objective based, supporting upto 16players and bots, next time, try to review the full game, cheers and thanks, i love you're video Reviews as another myself, but i was eager for you're opinion on the multiplayer portion of Killzone 1
4:33 " i shouldnt get a headache from playing a video game".. clearly never experienced the joys of VR then... its amazing. but its a headache for sure. often along with other, worse, sensations.
I have a feeling they should have made the helghast the main playable characters of the entire series. There the ones that are the real good guys of the franchise and there not even reminiscent of nazis. We all want a taste of ISA and UCN blood. No offense. Plus, they should have made the weapons more balanced and give them a better look and feel.
Playing this rn on ps3 hd version and i can relate so much with you. Everything you said pretty much sums up. My god this games sucks balls, but the story is engaging af. It's a torture. You don't want to spend another minute with it, but you still want to know what happened in the story.
I was always a Halo guy, but I still always had Killzone on the corner of my eye. I started Halo and Xbox late during the Halo 3 days so the "Halo Killer" debates kinda went over my head. I just saw two different consoles with badass Scifi military games. Though Halo won my interests and I got an Xbox. Though I always wanted to try Killzone (Even made a Killzone trilogy remastered game case for my photoshop class). Anyway, fast forward to now and since Playstation is actually spanking Xbox these days, I actually got convinced to get a ps4. Got a free trial for PS Now and pulled up the whole Killzone trilogy... and some game called Shadow Fall, but everyone said to forget about that one. Started the first 4 missions last night and I gotta say you were spot on. I was pumped during the opening cinematic and then I started playing. The last of music during gameplay is driving me insane, the controls and animations make me feel like I'm playing a third-person game in a first-person pov, and I think I've put the weapons into 2 slots ("Can't hit shit, but plenty of ammo" and "decently accurate, but ammo is more scarce"). Gonna keep powering through it though and I am still excited for 2 & 3 since those are considered "the good ones". Though I gotta say, I'm happy I chose Halo over Killzone.
A Halo killer without music just won't hack it. Would love to see a Goldeneye: Rogue Agent review. I used to love it and still think it's good but might just be my nostalgia talking. Keep up the good stuff!
I loved getting up close and personal with the Helgast rifle. There was a risk / reward with the timing of your single shot gun blast. The trick was that you could charge in and fire it mid clip BUT if you held down the alt fire trigger you would not reload the shot gun round until you let go, so you could finish the targets or lay down fire as you ran for cover for that longer reload
I did like this game. I knew it was as far as it could get from being a "Halo killer". But I even spent some time playing Killzone online on the PS2. It's weird but all that camera shake, reload animations and absence of music were things I liked about this game (on top of the Helghast badassery).
I love the fact that they didn’t add any Music in the game. For me personally it made it feel more intense and in certain situations when the helghast spawn I got survival horror vibes from it. I love this game. It’s one of my favourites.
Remember when haze was supposed to be a halo killer?
The Boss Stage1 I thought it was fun but I couldn’t stand the part at the end when you lose the drug
Even the guy at the game store tried to dissuade me from buying it. I wish I'd listened.
*ADMINISTERING...*
Pepperidge farm remembers
Made by same guys who did Timesplitters. We could've gotten T4 if weren't for some dipshit devs & the publishers steering their studios.
I loved this game when I was younger, the atmosphere in deserted locations was incredible. I always played as Luger and most of the time used her OP secondary laser shot for her smg (it was one headshot kill on default on enemies).
love the killzone games please do the rest of the games
online was so good
boy the nostalgia of playin kz on ps2, I miss kt every day
Dunno about the rest but KZ2 was unplayable nausea-inducing overhyped piece of shit.
Especially Mercenary. (Apparently the best one)
The thing I remember and actually loved most about this game was how awesome the reload animations looked. I actually liked that the character looked more down at his weapon as it made the game feel more immersive.
"It's like finding an oasis in the desert where the sand is replaced with syringes filled with aids" -Gggmanlives
Add that to his list of inspirational quotes.
"Half-Helghast, _half-human"_
This is why the Helghast are pissed.
Didn't really know anything about this game. Thanks for the review.
Damn you gotta be young af :)
This game is masterpieces childhood
Matt? I am surprised. You are not that young :P
Hell yeah Wreckless Eating! Love you guys videos!
i remember playing some of it, i enjoyed it, but this was like 13 years ago... or like 1 year after it came out
Halo didn't die, it was MURDERED...
By Microsoft and 343 Industries, not Killzone, lol.
Indigo Gaming so why is Halo 5 still so popular? It’s always among the top 20 most played Xbox Live games. No it’s not #1 like back in the Halo 2/3 days, it doesn’t have to be.
Halo 3 was the last Halo game
Jonah Dominguez ODST, Halo 4, Halo 5. It’s stupid to say it’s the last Halo game just because it’s the last one you liked. Halo 5 is obviously the most recent Halo game.
@@ElGaby323 But based on what Halo's gameplay is supposed to be, it's not really a Halo "game".
Nachos TV that’s a bunch of nonsense. Games evolve, and the core gameplay is the same. Please enlighten me, what does a true Halo game consists of that Halo 5 doesn’t have?
I love it when my Aussie boi uploads
Wow wasn't banking on seeing you here Haigs
The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs i thought he was british lmao they both have horrible accents
I always assumed he spoke in some sort of inhuman dialect. Now that I know he's an Aussie, I know I was right.
Killzone2 was in 2009? I feel like it was yesterday...
I know, right!? Killzone 2 multiplayer was the absolute shit. I loved it. Killzone 3 multiplayer was also cool af
SpecShadow Killzone 2 was the truth 🤘
I feel you bro... i remember when killzone one came around.
I want a prequel controlling the Helgast.
Any game as the Helgast would be great, would be nice to play as the Good guys for once in the series.
Sadly, the second half of Mercenary might be the closest we'll get to that
@@49mozzer The Helgast were minding their own business. Through smarts and stable planning they managed to built a strong economic foundation colonizing Vekta and Helgan ( a world of life and a world of resources). The ISA crew envious of the success of the Helgast launched an invasion against the peaceful Helgast ,robbing them of their homes on Vekta , destroying the works of the Helgast people and forcing the survivors to survive on the hellish but resource rich Helgan.
The lore of the Killzone series is much better then it really deserves or needs to be, worth a look if you ever get a chance.
ISA are scum let's play as the Helghast empire
@@49mozzer Ending of KZ3 was dumb anyway. It made it impossible to really carry on the story in any logical way. I was hoping they would play more into the Helgan civil war that kicked of at the end of 3. Have a planet split in two between the Old Guard and the new Technocrats. Maybe ISA trying to maintain humanitarian aid to civilians during the fighting.
Would have made a better background for a game then we got.
I remember being so hyped for this game even tho I never had a PS2 I bought it for a friend who had one so I could play the game lol. Good times.
We went from Doom Clones to Halo Killers to CoD Clones to Battle Royale Clones.
You forgot the survival clones.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 And that, yes.
Or left4dead clones
FOR DE TIIIIIMES
DE ARE
ACHAAANGING
*Harmonica solo*
And zombie clones
Thank you for taking the time to do a review on this franchise, it is by far one of my most favorites. I remember playing the first game as a kid and I also remember how hyped I was when my dad got me the Killzone 3 + Rifle control bundle for the PlayStation eye.
"Causing those who live there to lose their hair, go pale and browse 4Chan".....oof
No lie though lol
More like /pol/
@singular on1 Tumblr is much worse than Reddit ever could be.
>implying...
@@Warhamer116 If you go to blue boards you ARE blue pilled.
mercinary on the vita is by far the best one, really neat money system, pretty rad gameplay and its super impressive for a handheld game!
Split screen vs bots was awesome ❤️👌
Finally a chance to play as Helghast!
@@vanders4198 the only way to play as helghast
Killzone was worth the price for the splitscreen alone
@@dakota2610 The Split screen with a buddy VS Hardest AIs, shit was dope, The shoreline map was epic haha
Agreed it was a good mode.
"It's about as accurate as a youtuber making videos on trending outrage culture" This is a man I can honestly understand. Kudos Gman.
How did Guerilla Games go from Space Nazis in Outer Space to Cave Girl vs Robot Dinosaurs?
GenosectKingRevived creativity?
They are in the same Shared Universe
Before Killzone, Guerrilla Games' founder Arjam Brussee worked on Jazz Jackrabbit, which raises even more questions.
S....J....W....s
cuz Robot Dinosaurs sound more interesting
"Halo killer"
"Gta clone"
"Cod clone"
"Soulslike"
Sometimes I hate this community
There's also "Rogue-like". I'm sure we're missing some more.
"Minecraft clone"
Soulslike is the most understandable of the bunch.
@@NolanAlighieri I don't think roguelike fits in with the others. "Something-killer or clone" are derrogatory, roguelikes pretty much pay homage to rogue which was a novelty when released and sounds better than "turn-based, tile-based RPG with permadeath" or even roguelites, that also sounds more appealing than "game with permadeath and meta progression". Well, that's just my two cents :o
@@evrimenustun9548 Yeah, Souls-like is actually a useful comparison, even if it is way to broadly applied. DOOM-Clone, GTA-Clone, and Halo-Killer are all comparing mechanics, which is way, way to broad.
Souls-like though compares underlying structure. You can have a ton of different types of mechanics in use, but if the structure is similar enough, it's fair enough to call it Souls-like.
the Helghast did nothing wrong!
Amen my Helghast brother
@@LaRavachole wtf I love the Helghast now
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD *The U̶S̶ ̶G̶o̶v̶e̶r̶n̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ISA wants to know your location*
This, but unironically.
@@LaRavachole that's what makes the helghast bad? Wtf that's a good trait in my book
Killzone should've let you play as the Helghast rather than the lame ISA. Too bad Killzone Shadow Fall pretty much killed the franchise. Needs a reboot/remake.
Rico becomes a total ahole in the later games lol.
Hail Helghan...
Genome Soldat Good of you to have hope, brother
Killzone Mercenary on the PS Vita is an amazing game
How about they give us back the 3 primary weapons setup killzone 1 has instead of the trash we got later for a weapon system
I'd rather them focus on the beauty and creativity that Horizon is. Killzone has plenty of games under its belt, they wanted to do something different, and it actually did well. Be proud of what they've turned in to.
@@Dorraj That's a good point.
There's been like a dozen "halo killers" pushed by sony. Resistance, killzone, haze, mag, warhawk, the list goes on
a lot of them were good games though! all the killzone trilogy games are good, resistance 3 and 2 are great games by insomniac and mag was just batshit crazy back then(that many peopole in a FPS) i hope they continue some of this series with Strong titles in near future...
The Resistance series is pretty good honestly. The gameplay hasn't really aged the greatest but it's not bad.
Yeah and a few of those games were incredible. Btw, Sony didn't use the "Halo killer" moniker, it was usually dumb ass publications and garbage websites like IGN.
Halo is boring and overrated, there’s tons of FPS games better than halo
Halo killer? More like Halo killed 'em am I rite fellas?
The term Doom Clone is not what you said. The thing is that what we call today the FPS genre didn't have an established name until 1996/97 when Quake and DN3D were out.
Until then all shooters were 2.5D with comparable technology to Doom, and because Doom came first, the rest were just called Doom Clones by default.
Doom was such a breakthrough in technology back then that for years it was used as the name to call the genre entirely, so it wasn't until we got another breakthrough with fully 3D rendered games that FPS started to be used.
Therefore calling Dark Forces and Strife Doom Clones is correct... and much shorter than "sprite-based old school first person shooters".
Okay, so you basically just confirmed what I said originally. Thanks.
Ahhh,wolfenstein came first.Doom only improved it even further.
@@Gggmanlives
"Why" matters just as much as "what". He explained to you why
the helghan underbarrel shotgun is still one of my favorite secondary firemodes ever
Isn’t that the music from Return to Castle Wolfenstein’s opening cinematic playing during whassisname’s speech at around the 2:30 mark?
No.
Halo killer? Hahaha but the setting story of the game is kinda interesting.
sony still cant nail fps games. shame
Also funny that the helghans are far more interesting and understandable motivation than “good guy” IRAs.
@@MoonMinHo yeah, the helgans chatter during combat make them kinda "real" enemy.
@@Archvile1 Killzone 2 was good
Cant kill something thats already dead.
I love the Killzone games. But you're right, the controls in the first game really are wonky. I was adjusting the sensitivity of Killzone 2 over halfway into the game! Killzone 3's controls were finally good enough at default setting that it felt like a playable fps. Visually and storywise the Killzone games have always been good though.
A pc release of the whole series would be great
Won't happen since Sony owns the trademark.
Tell that to Sony
The wonky console control movement has to be fixed if the game is to be ported to PC
@@MoonMinHo and with a fov slider
Pc released games are happen to crash 24/7
The Helghast did nothing wrong.
Besides murder countless innocent civilians on both sides.
@@monsterhunter66 ISA propaganda
MonsterHunter 66 you put us on planet where we were horribly mutated for decades costing millions of lives and forcing us to create an authoritarian hell scape to survive then when we demand to go to planet that won’t kill us you told us to fuck off and die so now your saying there blame on both side get out of here with that shit we just try to finish what you started the race war starts now
They really didn't though which is the cool thing about killzone's setting, used up and cast aside to die they're fairly well justified in their revenge I say
@Sgt. Digas LMAO its the same as to say the Germans had no reason to start WW2 hahahahahah but this time the Hellghast didnt even did anything wrong just lived in peace and then got dumped on a Hellworld and abondend by the ISA and your wondering why the Hellghast hate them and see them as nonhumans ..... the ISA treated them like cattle and so do they .....
Rico sounds like Sgt. Cortez from TimeSplitters.
Noticed that too, same voice actor I assume. Loved Cortez in Future perfect.
@@drunkenhowler22 Yeah, I noticed it as well and looked it up, both are voiced by Tom Clarke-Hill. Love TimeSplitters.
@@puddingtopf Same man, lame jokes and all, thats a series that needs a remake just so the new generation can enjoy its lunacy.
@@drunkenhowler22 Lame jokes, you mean in TS? I don't find them lame at all, lol. And you do know that TimeSplitters has been acquired by THQ Nordic? They're working on something.
That's because he is
I knew a kid back in high school who used the term "Halo Killer" in real life, but he thought Haze would be the one strike down Halo, not Killzone. Boy oh boy did he sip the koolaid... he hyped Haze up to Duke Nuk-Em Forever levels. That kid was so convinced and passionate in his argument that some of us actually started to believe him... not because we didn't know any better, but because he was so filled with hope that it became contagious. Then Haze released, and screwed the metaphorical pooch in the front lawn for the whole neighborhood to see. The other kids never let him live it down, his sophmore and junior years were defined by ridicule and shame. Someone even went to the trouble of slipping a Haze game case into his locker, but with a Halo CE disc inside instead. hey were so mean that when he switched schools his senior year, everybody thought it was because of Haze, and the disgrace he brought upon his family name.
R.I.P. Kyle, wherever you are.
Got a tear in my eye..
It was just some light Hazing is all.
- School student body.
I was so excited for this before it came out, but it just felt a little dull and 'loose'.
My people... sons and daughters of helgan... for manny years we have been a broken nation... SHANKED.. OPRESSED.. AND QONCUIRED BY THOSE WE SET TO ESCAPE... 10 years ago i asked for time.. and that time got granted by you...YOU . the strenght in my arm.. the holders of my dreams..
All i remeber from the intro on my ps2.
Qoncuired. Now that's just impressive.
@@rorystockley5969 im not american in case you are trying to say that my grammer is bad. As i dont know what you are trying to say.
@@apexsparx2487 Its not even a word.
@@apolloptx english isnt my strong side, consider that.
Generally I find people who correct others grammar are sad losers who have nothing better to say in their empty heads.
I'm still dreaming of a day when we get a Killzone review that has no mention of Halo killer anywhere
Fat chance, that'd be downright misrepresentation - it was the blooming advertising campaign for the game. They WANTED that insipid phrase to be in everyone's brain when thinking of the game.
The problem is...Was advertised like this. You can't make a new burguer with out referencing MacDonald's or Burguer King
Halo was so huge at the time. Like insane big. Sony was looking for anything to be marketed as a halo killer. So it will always have that stigma
@TIGHTT88 The intro and premise had potential but you just end up mowing generic faceless soldiers so it's more of a wasted potential than anything else. Also for a sci fi game it felt really generic at least for me. You still just went in usual factory and urban areas or open areas with not that much to see.
TIGHTT88
Sorry, killzone story and level design was mediocre at best. Overall just looked like a quake 2 copy.
Hakha is more accurate with the Helghast weapons though. Templar and the other ISA characters are less accurate to reflect the fact that they are unfamiliar with the weapons.
Also, the Sta52 is intended to be more of a "massed assault, fire full auto from the hip" kind of weapon and not designed to be hyper accurate to begin with, (at least lorewise)
I can barely remember anything from Killzone, except that the start of the last level had an insane difficulty spike.
It wasnt that hard
I love this game, easily an 8 out of 10. Love the visual style, level design, weapons and sound design + the multiplayer was great.
Even playing with bots is still a lot of fun.
"some kind of socialist and nationalist state..."
Um, national socialists?
Uhmmmmmm.... *SPACE NÄŽÏŠ?!*
Wooosh
Gas the space traitors, galactic war now!
national socialists are opposite of socialists
@@bobojenkins5805 "National Socialism" is like the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" - it's more marketing plot than accurate descriptor.
I love this game. For me is the best ps2 shooter, better than "Black".
I remember playing deathmatch with friends and it was awesome. All the different guns, the graphics, the light and skyboxes where so damn great.
That camera shake when loading or throwing grenade, I think is inmersive, and makes it more intense.
Now that you point out the lack of music... I didn't even notice and I play this game for sooo much.
I still think this game deserves more attention and glory.
The grey palette, the history, really think that the helgast are the bad ones..
Maybe is not that good but absolutely halo m8.
The Shotgun is actually super dope when you find out you can use primary and alt fire at the same time for a triple blast. It's range can't be saved though lol
This game still has one of the best intros and music in videogame history. Joris absolutely nailed it. I remember being on one of the first samole orchestral music composers forum and he send there demos he made for the Killzone, what a talent!
soooooooooooo, when you are on the topic of games unfairly labeled as doom-"clones" why not review the Marathon games one of these days?
Marathon is a lot of fun, has a nice atmosphere to it.
@@3xasfast811 the first level and Pfhor Your Eyes Only comes to mind
@@MusKubium Never finished it but that first level has fantastic atmosphere the rest don't which is a bummer but that first level will always stick with me.
Is Rico voiced by the same guy who voiced Sgt Cortez from Timesplitters?
3:25 "and that's because I'm playing the HayCH Dee Version"
I remember when that early E3 cut scene alone blew my mind.
"the shotgun is an insult to fps shotguns"
i dunno, that triple shell burst you could do was pretty rad
another interesting gimmick was level traversal. Rico couldn't use ladders so he had to take direct routes. luger could climb ropes and hakha could walk through laser mines, so they could flank and get the drop on enemies. this along with the unique weapons they each had encouraged different play styles
I've dug out the PS2 to play this again, and I swear I have more fun on the original than Shadow Fall on PS4.
I like on hard difficiculty having to actually take cover from dropships and APCs, to run for dear life when I hear "frag out!", and for my weapon choices to be more about the situation I'm going into than just personal preference. And the mist (not draw distance!) on certain levels keeping you lost and unable to tell where you're getting shot from, that's a deliberate game mechanic to make the Helghast that extra bit scarier. And it works, at least for the first play through.
On Shadow Fall, even on hard all that tension is lost. The campaign is filled with enemies deliberately placed to give you free knife kills, and all the rest can be easily ambushed by using the 'tactical echo' basically a wall hack, taking all the challenge out of manoeuvring. The more you dig into it, the worse it gets: Heavy, mandatory auto-aim, a personal attack drone with infinite health and ammo that can do the whole campaign by itself, suicidal enemies who'll run into danger for no reason. The only fun you can have with it is by imposing some arbitrary rule on yourself, like try do this whole section with melee only. I shouldn't have to be resorting to stuff like that.
Killzone has no difficulty balance what so ever, I played the game on easy and I got shredded by Helgast in later levels it's been almost two years and my uncle stumbled upon a greatest hits edition that I swapped out from my standard release version and gave that to one of my friends. I'm on the 4th to last mission where you fight at a dam I guess or some kind of power plant or facility. It's after you traverse through a small desert area after the jungle levels is the best way to describe it, I never got around to beating it all that time ago.
Just beat the campaig for the first time, the halo killer marketing destroyed this game reputation. It ´s clearly its own thing, with a heavy tactical element like you described packed with a setting that resembles every war in history (vietnam, I-II World war)
I was like 10 or 11 when I first played this game and I have really fond memories of it. Nice to see it getting attention, one way or the other. I was never annoyed by the screen shake, if anything I thought the guns had an awesome kick to them. Very good video my man, good job.
That DSP "what the fuck" was great
Just realized Rico sounds a *lot* like Cortez from TimeSplitter Future Perfect
"The Halo Killer"
Oh boy. I remember that one
6:58 That AI pathfinding.
Got it at the weekend & I have to say, I’m enjoying it a lot more then I did playing it on the PS2. The little improvements to me go a long way. Wicked review
i love the killzone games
Nay for the first. But 2 and 3 are great games.
We need a remastered trilogy!
Which is your favorite? I love 3 the best.
The first one really doesn’t look polished and interesting than sequels...
I love 3 and shadowfall I believe it was called
A huge opportunity was missed to make this franchise memorable. They should have made the main character a propaganda fuelled rookie in the Helghan army and let him see the atrocities of war for the first time and be toughen by it.
Part 2 could have focused on him returning to Helghan after the invasion and defending his home world from the ISA and see for himself how Visari is willing to sacrifice everything to defeat the ISA, even at the cost of Helghan cities and citizens. This would make him question his loyalty to Visari and the empire.
Part 3 could have been about Helghan colonies from deep space planets arriving to Helghan to act as reinforcements against the ISA and they would learn of Virsari's inhumane actions and leadership and it would spark a civil war to forcefully remove Visari from office. Ultimately the ISA would have detonated the Petrusite during their escape from the planet and destroy most of Helghan and the main character would have survived and become hysterical. Vowing revenge against the ISA (a tease for a sequel).
A nice way to subvert expectations since it would seem that the main character would defect and fight for the ISA. But the loss of his home world makes him just as xenophobic as Visari.
The only thing that killed Halo was 343 industries.
@@jetsetatrophy67 I was so happy when I heard they were dropping Killzone. Fuck that franchise, it was a waste of talent.
That subtle dsp clip tho
I got the original Killzone for the Ps2. It was released the same christmas as Half-Life 2. And I got both games for Christmas, so I had a blast. :)
Half-Life 2 must have been mind blowing compared lol
3:10 It WAS inspired by Jin-Roh, there's a stage that looks exactly like the sewer scene
I always love when I see what the developers intended with these games. Which was that the Helghast was suppose to be the really bad guys. But people ended up loving them, and sympathizing with them. It's pretty damn funny.
Because yeah, the Helghast are awesome as hell.
Also, Rico sounded ALOT like Detective Nigel Bonaparte (Nigbone)
After playing it again definitely the first game needs a remaster and updated contols and I never brian Cox from super troopers was the voice actor for vasari still amazes me
Killzone 3 Multiplayer beta was my shit when that came out
Oh yeah yeah
Is your vision augmented?
A fellow Pertwee er. Go GG man. And yeah He was the best doctor
I see you're a man of culture like me.
@@Gggmanlives Indeed. The world needs more people like us. I mean a dr who fought back was bad ass
Finally! I've waited so long for this review. I really hope you do the rest of the series :)
To be fair... They aren't bad games.
One of the few of truly military sci fi games
Awesome review, been hoping you'd cover Killzone at some point. Killzone came out roughly somewhere when I was in 5th grade, and being younger to the genre most of the complaints went over my head (well that, and I barely knew much about online reviews at the time anyway). It was the first game I ever played with a sprint button and dedicated meter for starters, and unless I happened to have Battlefront first, it also made for the first shooter that I had that allowed me to play with bots and get a taste of a multiplayer experience before I even really knew what that was beyond 1v1 splitscreen. Between the awesome enemies with "cool voices", the different cast mechanics, the weighted controls, all the small details ranging from pre-killed bodies in some levels to taped magazines, and then stuff like the sprint function and bot mode, it was honestly one of the best games I had touched for its time. In retrospect, I get it though. Some of the designs are dated, the lack of checkpoints even had a returning player like me ragequitting the HD set for a period of time, and some elements just weren't as fascinating as what people had experienced with Half-life and Halo going on in the same time. To a kid who almost only knew the Medal of Honor PS2 trilogy, this stuff was a real gem to enter my house hold, but... to think it was actually pushed as a massive halo killer is hilariously naive. Still, looking forward to any future series on the other titles of the series. I think as it progressed, the games got better in keeping up with most standards, and on the whole its got to be one of my favorite military shooters even if they each entry have their own strange flaws.
2019 still own this game on my ps2
Play it and enjoy it. Also if you play this game TRY executing helgasts with rico s LMG. its Balls kicking.
Ay, after asking for a Killzone trilogy review back in like 2015, Gman's finally doing it.
I remember renting this game back in the day. Never knew it was supposed to be a "Halo killer", but since it was at the local Brokebuster, I didn't expect much since they mostly carried medíocre games. So I got home, played it for like 2 hours and went back to trade it for Forbidden Siren.
I was shocked when I heard they were making a sequel to it, too, since the first one was so bad.
Watching this review for the 3rd time (as I play Killzone). Every time the video feels better and more accurate, as I advance in the game. Great content, mate!
Halo Killer?
Nah Halo killed itself by shooting devs in the foot
Wanted to see your opinion on this game from day one, nice!
Black was better imo
Significantly better without doubt. Just the much more stable performance and smoother animations alone justify that. Killzone on Ps2 at least is hardly playable. Even Perfect Dark on N64 low res mode plays smoother.
In my opinion, the only "Halo killer" to ever appear on the PS2 was The Darkwatch: great graphics, great weapons, exciting gameplay with an option for co-op and good and original story. The thing is it also appeared in the Xbox, so that is it. HAHAHAHA
Halo and good-bye
this game is good but no where near halo killer
7:45 Rico's pulse gun also has a secondary missile launcher, which is amazing.
Always thought they look like combine from half life 2
Combine came later
@@namesurname624 oh I didn't know that .. thanks for the info!
Similar inspirations for sure.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 for sure! It's actually a little scary like nazis overruling the city 17 or this game and there is nothing you can do about it if you are a normal citizen unless you are elike Gordon Freeman or something
black/grey gas mask are common aesthetic for sci fi mooks.
Finally you cover Killzone. I have been only asking for a year :D
Although no Halo killer, it definitely had some great ideas and artistically look great. Thought the gameplay was pretty good to
There is only one true halo killer. It's called 343 industries.
Man... I waited so long for you to talk about Killzone...
I am in peace now
Best video game review channel on TH-cam. You need a million more subscribers, bud.
The Killzone series was the first FPS I’ve ever played and even though they aren’t the best games in the world, they have a special place in my heart, but I enjoy hearing others opinions about it, good video btw
Killzone? I remembered Killzone 3, and have yet to get into the series. Thanks for the review, G! I own me a PS2 slim (and a fat), and this review has inspired me to pick it up.
@Gggmanlives, you didn't say anything about the multiplayer, it was a halo Killer, according to the multiplayer bots were actuslly inclusive, and the games were fun and objective based, supporting upto 16players and bots, next time, try to review the full game, cheers and thanks, i love you're video Reviews as another myself, but i was eager for you're opinion on the multiplayer portion of Killzone 1
Always reviewing my favourite childhood games. I love Killzone. Great vid
8:38 Wow.....I guess Dr.Who trivia finally sent Gman over the edge ._.
4:33 " i shouldnt get a headache from playing a video game".. clearly never experienced the joys of VR then... its amazing. but its a headache for sure. often along with other, worse, sensations.
but you do get used to it (mostly)
As a person who was a Halo fan back in the day, I did eventually try the HD PS3 re-release of Killzone 1, and can say I actually liked it quite a bit.
im pretty sure That voice for the Tank guy, is the same voice actor for Cortez in Timesplitters.
thats all, Love your work,
I have a feeling they should have made the helghast the main playable characters of the entire series. There the ones that are the real good guys of the franchise and there not even reminiscent of nazis. We all want a taste of ISA and UCN blood. No offense. Plus, they should have made the weapons more balanced and give them a better look and feel.
Playing this rn on ps3 hd version and i can relate so much with you. Everything you said pretty much sums up. My god this games sucks balls, but the story is engaging af. It's a torture. You don't want to spend another minute with it, but you still want to know what happened in the story.
Hey, did you use a clip from darksydephil from 5:50 to 5:54 in the video?
I was always a Halo guy, but I still always had Killzone on the corner of my eye. I started Halo and Xbox late during the Halo 3 days so the "Halo Killer" debates kinda went over my head. I just saw two different consoles with badass Scifi military games. Though Halo won my interests and I got an Xbox. Though I always wanted to try Killzone (Even made a Killzone trilogy remastered game case for my photoshop class). Anyway, fast forward to now and since Playstation is actually spanking Xbox these days, I actually got convinced to get a ps4. Got a free trial for PS Now and pulled up the whole Killzone trilogy... and some game called Shadow Fall, but everyone said to forget about that one. Started the first 4 missions last night and I gotta say you were spot on. I was pumped during the opening cinematic and then I started playing. The last of music during gameplay is driving me insane, the controls and animations make me feel like I'm playing a third-person game in a first-person pov, and I think I've put the weapons into 2 slots ("Can't hit shit, but plenty of ammo" and "decently accurate, but ammo is more scarce"). Gonna keep powering through it though and I am still excited for 2 & 3 since those are considered "the good ones". Though I gotta say, I'm happy I chose Halo over Killzone.
A Halo killer without music just won't hack it.
Would love to see a Goldeneye: Rogue Agent review. I used to love it and still think it's good but might just be my nostalgia talking.
Keep up the good stuff!
I loved getting up close and personal with the Helgast rifle. There was a risk / reward with the timing of your single shot gun blast. The trick was that you could charge in and fire it mid clip BUT if you held down the alt fire trigger you would not reload the shot gun round until you let go, so you could finish the targets or lay down fire as you ran for cover for that longer reload
I did like this game. I knew it was as far as it could get from being a "Halo killer". But I even spent some time playing Killzone online on the PS2.
It's weird but all that camera shake, reload animations and absence of music were things I liked about this game (on top of the Helghast badassery).
Loved it when it came out!! Would love to see a remake with a reworked control scheme!!!!
I love the fact that they didn’t add any Music in the game. For me personally it made it feel more intense and in certain situations when the helghast spawn I got survival horror vibes from it. I love this game. It’s one of my favourites.