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Follow the rules. The last time people were advocating ignoring the rules was when Veronica did not make the 100m team in 2008. We saw how that worked out. Rules have no meaning if they can be ignored whenever deemed expedient.
I definitely agree with you from a general standpoint as rules need to be honoured for a wider range of important reasons. But I also think that we made rules for a reason, and we should exercise the right to update, revise, and when 'sensible', completely ignore them entirely. If his absence from the semi-final was justified, then I think not using your best athletes solely because of imperfect rules that we ourselves created, is unnecessary and unhelpful. As long as we're not careless and flippant with it...I think the risks of making a special exception are diminished.
@@waynejames2160 Totally agree. Rules must never be unbreakable. We are not perfect and as such there are times when bending/breaking a rule may be the best option when faced with a dilemma. If the rules are effective enough, those times should be rare and not risk undermining the integrity of said rule....🙌
Rules are not cast into stone. That is why they are subjected to changes. Be minded that VCB started the golden ear for Jamaica in Athens 200m and 2007 world championships 100m. Need I say more😊
This isn't even a discussion we should be having. If youngsters show up to represent Jamaica and you break your own rules to exclude them, you're actively discouraging them from representing the country
Shelly spot is secure. Been the defending champion from 2021 she has an automatic bye to the 100m round at the World Championships. The JAAA can do absolutely nothing about that except to suspend or disqualified her for something.
Incorrect information. Julien run 2 weeks before this race at CAC games and won, might I add. And don’t downplay Alfred, talking about Sha’Carri looking tired. Every other athlete is also tired. Why not make excuses for them also when Sha’Carri is winning?
Looking at it objectively, this shouldn't even be so much of a big debate. I do not see Jamaica earning any individual medal in the 400m, even with the addition of McDonald. So, drop him in the 4x4 and mixed relay pool, where Jamaica has a legitimate chance of earning 2 medals.
I don't think they should consider Rusheen Mcdonald to the 400m pool regardless of his time. He is the national 400m record holder and still have not proven a point when running the rounds . I guess they can put him in the pool for the mixed relay.
Logical argument Shearer. I support your stance. Give McDonald an opportunity to run the individual event. It would be the strongest team with the top two finishers at trials.
Interesting. My view is that rules are a general framework that cannot always apply. If the aim is to put your best athletes forward with the goal of achieving success, then you select the best athletes. End of conversation. Just because you have rules in place doesn’t mean that you are a slave to them. The whole point of the selection process is to establish who the best athletes are. If one of those athletes is determined outside of the process, you go back to the original objective. Finding the best athletes. Success involves flexibility.
Not in agreement with Leighton this time. If the rules were broken in 2008 we may very well not have a Shelly Ann Fraser Pryce today. I believe it was something similar happened in the 2000 Olympics with Merlene Ottey and this young lady then whose name iludes me. That incident seemed to have crushed that athlete's spirit, so much so that she never remained competitive. Interestingly, at the time l was arguing the way Leighton is arguing in favor of McDonald.
Ur absolutely right as Rasheed McDonald is not a consistent runner. So now he run two fast time in his entire long career. Big deal! So let’s not get crazy excited as he may never run that time again for a next 10yrs. He didn’t run at trial he is out. If he is decent bring it for Olympic next. Year. Good news for all these guys for the last 4 yrs there are a big meet every year due to corvid.
@@adirootsIt was the correct decision to replace Dowdie as she would have just been an “also ran”. To trade a medal contender for an athlete with no chance at medaling was good strategy. McDonald isn’t a medal contender by anyone’s estimate so no reason to consider him.
@@Hengel_Andrews Even when the decision violates the rules, possibly destroys people's career, and sets precedence that makes administering such rules dicey in the future?
Is there anything wrong with Mr McDonld running only on the relays and be the pivot around the teams winning? Two gold medals ' dat enu' . Taking Mr McDonald habit of not fulfilling expectations. Please be reminded, if you needed to be, that Mr McDonald has the unenviable record of being the only sub 44 heats runner in a major championship to NOt reach the finals of said championship. The long and short of this is that Mr McDonld has conistently flattered only to deceive.
Please someone respond. And let me sey i hate being torn apart in social media, or in any debate for that matter. I have very thin skin. But this is the exception where ppl can sey whatever they want, politely , to defend their position as why we should not be only allow him running relays. If he is going to be consustently good through rounds. Ppl ' dat is 2 gold medals' . Ok 2 medals for the country.
That “win at all costs mentality” is very dangerous, and even more so when coming from people who are in leadership and influential positions. This is a microcosm of the bigger issue that is plaguing our society.
@@Starboynick85 Apparently you haven't been following T & F for long.-so what is the explanation for SFAP & TRAYVON BROMWELL not winning the 100m at the 2021 TOKYO OLYMPICS given their dominance in the event prior to the OLYMPICS.
@@agro-valleyfarm7217 Elaine won because she was better than Shelly that year even is sfp didn’t slip in that Tokyo 100m final she wouldn’t have won. As for Trayvon he didn’t execute
I say stick by the rules. Now if Rusheen McDonald can replicate this performance one or two more times prior to Trials, I would be thinking like Leighton, but Leighton making this decision based on 1 single race, not smart. As we don't know for sure if he can replicate this performance again. And with Rusheen, 1 good race doesn't normally mean a good race shortly after. He would have to do it again for me to even consider Leighton's stance.
@@kyngnick8723 44.8 is not the same as 44.0. If anything, it makes me question what others say about Rusheen. He'll run a very fast time one day and his next race, run a time that may not even make him to a WC final. Not saying he has to run 44.0 again but 44.8 isnt enough for me to break a JAAA rule and rob someone else of their spot to run the flat 400 at Budapest. You've got to consistently be running podium worthy times. For me.
Slight correction...lavern spencer is not the all time caribbean female high jumper. The cuban females are. Last time i checked...cuba is in the caribbean!
No. They are not apart of the British Caribbean (CARICOM). Geographically, yes, but historically and culturally no. The Spanish Caribbean does not see us as allies. It is what is.
The rules are the rules and must be adhered to. If we don't like the rules, then officially change them. Maybe third place shouldn't be automatic. Pick McDonald to the relay pool.
McDonald has become a selection nightmare and this will show me if Garth have guts to make the right call. He reported at the trials and would have won however injury in the rpunds stop him. With only 3 jamaican with the automatic tkme i would go with them and use the next two best for mix relay. Exception has always been to rule and this is a prefect occasion for Garth to execute. With Gardener set to win for Bahamas Jamaica should be in the mix and McDonald is our best hope.
The point is when the rules were made, it wasn’t taking into account that some one would run so fast after being competing in the 400m prior to running such a fast time
Everything leighton levy is saying screamsss unethical. He was maybe one of those persons fighting for Veronica Campbell to replace Shelly back in the day. He pissed me off during this entire interview!
The deciding factor is did the athlete satisfy the condition for automatic selection. The IAAF rules clearly states if an athlete compete and DO NOT meet the qualifying standards they don't have the automatic selection.
Extraordinary circumstance or not, although McDonald ran the 3rd fastest time in our history, there are no guarantees. He could also underperform. Likewise, Barnes or Powell could overperform. These decisions can destroy careers. Lest not forget when our beloved Ottey was chosen over Peta-gay Dowdie. If any of you heard of a successful career for Dowdie after that, please let me know.
The Peta-Gaye-Merlene Ottey situation does NOT apply here. Winners DON'T QUIT. The policy for selection is clear-ALL the athletes have to meet the IAAF qualifying standards to be selected.
Pets Gay gave up after the Ottey situation. She won the race and she was removed from the lineup. What would have happened to Shelly if she was replaced because she is an unknown. Trials are held for a reason, the athletes that qualify that day should be allowed to compete, it should not be a popularity contest.
@@kingston13origin27 Stop the cheerleading. It was a good run. Both athletes fresh, she is not winning. She needs to run a 10.7, to convince me otherwise.
@@kingston13origin27 I am almost sure you said the same thing about Sheriecka against Sha'Carri recently, that Shericka would win, and look what happened. Don't talk after the fact.
It's very true just used your common sense and think about if you ran multiple races in a 2 weeks period you would at some point be burned out look at the time shacarri been running then she place 2nd with a 10.9 that says alot yes she had a bad start and julien alfred had an explosive start and she ran hard to the end but won with a 10.8 and I'm not taking nothing from her because she's bn doing well and putting in work and your not going to win them all but win when it matters is more important.
As an avid track and field fan and someone who is fair and balanced and also someone who generally is aligned with Mr. Levy, I'll have to TOTALLY disagree with Leighton on this. We have two individuals who are ahead of Rasheed on the individual positions and while Javaughn has not made the qualifying standard he is in the top 48 which by rule will still allow him to be at Worlds. It's more than just the ability to make a finals, I think Christopher Taylor made the finals one year and certainly didn't have to run 44.0 to get there, it's all a matter of the draw and what you are running relative to others each round and on the day. It's also about giving others the experience. Now rules/laws are there for a reason and if something is wrong with a rule/law we should make it better. Such change to a rule/law should be made before an incident where said rule/law is being applied. A rule/law that's in place should simply be applied and in some extent interpreted but not changed to suit the situation. All athletes and their teams entering championships understood the rules/law coming in and therefore made decisions based on those rules/laws. It gives everyone the same level playing field in which to operate. These cannot be changed after the fact. For example: There may be an athlete who did everything in their power to get a 3rd place finish knowing the rules and have done everything to prepare to get that spot including travel arrangements, other expenses etc. For that all to be discarded would not be fair. If that athlete knew that they may not be selected after meeting the criteria, said athlete may have made other decisions on whether to even attempt to qualify. Herein is the reason to have a level playing field to operate, hence rules/laws. Btw. Extraordinary situations do sometimes require extraordinary responses. What Rasheed has done is not an extraordinary circumstance that warrant bending the rules. A one of race is different from running round which will be required come Worlds and we have seen this before from Rasheed so this certainly doesn't require an extraordinary response and I know Mr. Levy knows this😊. Great discussion either way. Having said all that - Rasheed will be an insurance in the event the other two athletes don't make the cut, Javaughn falling out of the top listing and the other gentleman falling out of form(injury etc), then Rasheed is the clear 3rd spot choice and that would not infringe on the rule.
If I were part of the JAAA selection panel I'd select Rusheen McDonald for a place on the 4×400 but he wouldn't compete in an individual event. Him cyaa manage the rounds periodt!!
If McDanold is fit and elegable to do the indivual 400 he should run base on experence if not add him to the relsy pool which would put Jamaica closer to the Americans with a possibelity of beating them
i rather have consistent runners over the season, such as sean bàiley and antonio watson running for us, than rusheed mcdonald who is all over the place. and its not a jab at rusheed. heck he holds our national record and is a great runner, but consistency is the big thing here. no consistency means lower chance to perform
The rules are the rules but this situation is different. And he is the National Record Holder. But if I was top 3 at Nationals and they gave my dpot away Id be pissed..lol
Ok my take is put Mcdonald in the individual races, Caz if Usain bolt in his prime didn't run the semi at trials and wasn't in the top 3 for fastest time in the world to get a medical exemption. But he is the national record holder , JAAA would have allow him to run the individual race
Im a bit iffi on this one. Rusheen McDonald is definitely not the most consistent. So i would say, if he drops that time again or even close to it, I support placing him in the flat 400m. I must add though, that he does look different, stronger and better than he has ever looked.
I can’t believe people still think that way after they used Merlene Ottey to crushed Petagaye Downey’s future by not selecting the latter when she beat the former. Also after they wanted to replace SAFP with Veronica in 2008 and SAFP proved them wrong and became the GOAT.
The bloke in the middle needs his head screwed on correctly. What has McDonald done outside his fast time yesterday and his NR 8 yrs ago? NOTHING! Put him on the relay and pick a youngster for the individual spot!
Don't hurt the other youths like that. After the championships in Jamaica, Veronica beat Shelly in Europe. People were saying to replace Shelly with Veronica. LOOK AT SHELLY NOW. LEAVE THE YOUTHS ALONE. PUT MCDONALD IN THE RELAY POOL. NO EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION.
There is nothing in the rules that guarantee that Powell gets the third spot. The rule states that "athletes placing in the 1st to 3rd positions in all events will be selected if they have attained the qualifying standard for the event", Powell does not have the qualifying standard, meaning therefore, the JAAA is within their rights to pick any other Jamaican that has the qualifying standard.
Thats why I know it's going to take everything the other sprinters have to offer, to defeat Shelly ,reason for this ,she'll start is going to catch them off guard 😂😂😂
Rusheen is consistent everywhere and anytime but when it counts at the championships. He's neither good in the individual 400m, and forget about the relays. Give the spot to someone who is promising and shows great potential. Rusheen had his day and never delivered.
I agree with Leighton because we want medals against other countries. Otherwise, only send top medalists in the Trials. Hence, why have a specific Championships to make decisions and then bump a top 3 person off for medical reasons? That person could not withstand the competition when it mattered in the Trials. So we already been breaking the rules of logic.
JAAA, I say stick by the rules because making exceptions will haunt you in the future. If you had followed public sentiments in the past, Shelley Ann Fraser would not have won an Olympic gold medal in 2008. However, if you wish to make amendments to your rules for the future, please do so.
The top three earn there places, Rasheed should bench this one out even if he's the fastest 400m runner for Jamaica this year...what would've happened if he replace the automatic qualifiers and go on to flop himself on the world stage coming in at last,what would've been the conversation then???
Do not be fooled by Rusheen McDonald's 44.03 seconds. He runs a fast time like every eight or so years. He has shown that he cannot sustain a quality race throughout the rounds. He ran the national record in the heats and has not come close to this time till this week. Tell Rusheen to "tek weh himself".
The law should not be a shackle but a general guideline. The law cannot be framed to account for every possible circumstance. Extenuating circumstances is a part of life and should be accommodated when justifiable. The whole objective should be to select your best team. I don't think anything should supersede that basic objective. Even God makes exceptions to his own law because of circumstances.
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Follow the rules. The last time people were advocating ignoring the rules was when Veronica did not make the 100m team in 2008. We saw how that worked out. Rules have no meaning if they can be ignored whenever deemed expedient.
They also advocated for Omar McCloud to be placed on the Olympic team to Japan. And we saw how that turned out.
last time was actually 2021 with omar mcleod. but perfect example none the less
I definitely agree with you from a general standpoint as rules need to be honoured for a wider range of important reasons.
But I also think that we made rules for a reason, and we should exercise the right to update, revise, and when 'sensible', completely ignore them entirely.
If his absence from the semi-final was justified, then I think not using your best athletes solely because of imperfect rules that we ourselves created, is unnecessary and unhelpful. As long as we're not careless and flippant with it...I think the risks of making a special exception are diminished.
@@waynejames2160 Totally agree. Rules must never be unbreakable. We are not perfect and as such there are times when bending/breaking a rule may be the best option when faced with a dilemma. If the rules are effective enough, those times should be rare and not risk undermining the integrity of said rule....🙌
Rules are not cast into stone. That is why they are subjected to changes. Be minded that VCB started the golden ear for Jamaica in Athens 200m and 2007 world championships 100m.
Need I say more😊
This isn't even a discussion we should be having. If youngsters show up to represent Jamaica and you break your own rules to exclude them, you're actively discouraging them from representing the country
Exactly! That man want meds
Wow, didn't know this was or started taking place
I remember them talking about giving Shelly spot to a top athlete. Shelly won the Gold
Shelly spot is secure. Been the defending champion from 2021 she has an automatic bye to the 100m round at the World Championships. The JAAA can do absolutely nothing about that except to suspend or disqualified her for something.
@@gerryraak I was talking about the first time she represents Jamaica
@@gerryraak aged like milk
I agree with Leighton.Sometimes life create unseen circumstance which calls for requisite adjustment
There are a procedure for that . A medical waiver. If u show up and not on it out . Worst Macdonald is. Not a consistent 400m runner.
True true. He ran the 3rd fastest time in Jamaican history!
This girl Alfred is going to be a Force to be recon with in the future,
Julien ran at the CAC games
Incorrect information. Julien run 2 weeks before this race at CAC games and won, might I add. And don’t downplay Alfred, talking about Sha’Carri looking tired. Every other athlete is also tired. Why not make excuses for them also when Sha’Carri is winning?
Looking at it objectively, this shouldn't even be so much of a big debate. I do not see Jamaica earning any individual medal in the 400m, even with the addition of McDonald. So, drop him in the 4x4 and mixed relay pool, where Jamaica has a legitimate chance of earning 2 medals.
A so i have been 'seyin' . People 'noting' wrong i giving him a relay spot. Anyone object , please state reason(s).
I don't think they should consider Rusheen Mcdonald to the 400m pool regardless of his time. He is the national 400m record holder and still have not proven a point when running the rounds . I guess they can put him in the pool for the mixed relay.
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Put him in the relay pool but not the individual event. Simple!
Why wouldn’t u? The man have the fastest time overall
Good idea, the mix relay and 4*4. Not everyone can manage the rounds
The problem with Rasheed McDonald he is not consistent. He will do crazy good shit like that and the. Go back and run 46.
@@respectbigman3133exactly, he’s unreliable and he never performs when it counts. Put him on the relay only.
He is a one race runner!
JAMAICA THANK YOU FOR TRAINING JULIEN ALFRED BEFORE SHE MOVED TO THE USA. I AM SAINT LUCIAN
Tell her the bronze medal is available on this occasion, but nothing in the following Olympics.
Logical argument Shearer. I support your stance. Give McDonald an opportunity to run the individual event. It would be the strongest team with the top two finishers at trials.
Interesting. My view is that rules are a general framework that cannot always apply. If the aim is to put your best athletes forward with the goal of achieving success, then you select the best athletes. End of conversation. Just because you have rules in place doesn’t mean that you are a slave to them. The whole point of the selection process is to establish who the best athletes are. If one of those athletes is determined outside of the process, you go back to the original objective. Finding the best athletes. Success involves flexibility.
totally agree! well said.
Then why have rules? Then Why didn't World Athletics reinstate Usain Bolt when he false started?
Hehe! Good point
This is why I like GB policy, coming 3rd only gets you one foot through the door you have to complete until selection to keep your spot.
The policy for selection is clear-ALL the athletes have to meet the IAAF qualifying standards to be selected.
Not in agreement with Leighton this time. If the rules were broken in 2008 we may very well not have a Shelly Ann Fraser Pryce today. I believe it was something similar happened in the 2000 Olympics with Merlene Ottey and this young lady then whose name iludes me. That incident seemed to have crushed that athlete's spirit, so much so that she never remained competitive. Interestingly, at the time l was arguing the way Leighton is arguing in favor of McDonald.
Peta-gay Dowdie. I agree, these decisions can destroy budding careers.
Totally agree with you! The relay is a better option for him . Jamaica can do better in the mix relay
Ur absolutely right as Rasheed McDonald is not a consistent runner. So now he run two fast time in his entire long career. Big deal! So let’s not get crazy excited as he may never run that time again for a next 10yrs. He didn’t run at trial he is out. If he is decent bring it for Olympic next. Year. Good news for all these guys for the last 4 yrs there are a big meet every year due to corvid.
@@adirootsIt was the correct decision to replace Dowdie as she would have just been an “also ran”. To trade a medal contender for an athlete with no chance at medaling was good strategy. McDonald isn’t a medal contender by anyone’s estimate so no reason to consider him.
@@Hengel_Andrews
Even when the decision violates the rules, possibly destroys people's career, and sets precedence that makes administering such rules dicey in the future?
Nuff respect Ricardo
Making the final and getting medals is priority for the Jamaica. The younger athletes are the future managing inuries.
Is there anything wrong with Mr McDonld running only on the relays and be the pivot around the teams winning? Two gold medals ' dat enu' . Taking Mr McDonald habit of not fulfilling expectations. Please be reminded, if you needed to be, that Mr McDonald has the unenviable record of being the only sub 44 heats runner in a major championship to NOt reach the finals of said championship. The long and short of this is that Mr McDonld has conistently flattered only to deceive.
Please someone respond. And let me sey i hate being torn apart in social media, or in any debate for that matter. I have very thin skin. But this is the exception where ppl can sey whatever they want, politely , to defend their position as why we should not be only allow him running relays. If he is going to be consustently good through rounds. Ppl ' dat is 2 gold medals' . Ok 2 medals for the country.
To be fair he had to run that fast to make it out the first round, that particular Heat was crazy. He had nothing left after after that run
Excellent coverage. Amend the rules. McDonald should be a part of the team
That “win at all costs mentality” is very dangerous, and even more so when coming from people who are in leadership and influential positions. This is a microcosm of the bigger issue that is plaguing our society.
The policy for selection is clear-ALL the athletes have to meet the IAAF qualifying standards to be selected.
You are right on that..... we'll never escape that ideology
Given her current form I expect that JULIEN ALFRED will be on the podium for the 100m in Budapest.
Wishful thinking…..but it’s not her time.
@@Starboynick85 Apparently you haven't been following T & F for long.-so what is the explanation for SFAP & TRAYVON BROMWELL not winning the 100m at the 2021 TOKYO OLYMPICS given their dominance in the event prior to the OLYMPICS.
@@agro-valleyfarm7217 Elaine won because she was better than Shelly that year even is sfp didn’t slip in that Tokyo 100m final she wouldn’t have won. As for Trayvon he didn’t execute
After the Budapest final revisit this post and prove me wrong
@@Starboynick85 I will-I expect her to be on that podium.
HE CAN ONLY DO IT IN A ONE ROUND RACE
Fact!
Straight
I totally agree with Leighton. This is for the greater good and it is an extraordinary circumstance.
I say stick by the rules. Now if Rusheen McDonald can replicate this performance one or two more times prior to Trials, I would be thinking like Leighton, but Leighton making this decision based on 1 single race, not smart. As we don't know for sure if he can replicate this performance again. And with Rusheen, 1 good race doesn't normally mean a good race shortly after. He would have to do it again for me to even consider Leighton's stance.
Leighton is not basing his argument on one race. McDonald has run the three fastest time by a Jamaican this. He also ran 43.01 earlier this year.
Rushed ran today and is looking great!😅
@@kyngnick8723 44.8 is not the same as 44.0. If anything, it makes me question what others say about Rusheen. He'll run a very fast time one day and his next race, run a time that may not even make him to a WC final. Not saying he has to run 44.0 again but 44.8 isnt enough for me to break a JAAA rule and rob someone else of their spot to run the flat 400 at Budapest. You've got to consistently be running podium worthy times. For me.
@@kennethbailey5643 43.01? Earlier this year?
Slight correction...lavern spencer is not the all time caribbean female high jumper. The cuban females are. Last time i checked...cuba is in the caribbean!
No. They are not apart of the British Caribbean (CARICOM). Geographically, yes, but historically and culturally no. The Spanish Caribbean does not see us as allies. It is what is.
@@kemarsinclair9659 you seem to have forgotten NACAC...HE SHOULD HAVE QUALIFIED IT BY SAYING..."ENGLISH SPEAKING CARIBBEAN".
Leighton must be joking. If Rusheen and his team could not follow due diligence and get a medical exemption, why should JAAA bend the rules for him.
Remember he would have had to be in the top 3 in the world at the Jamaica trials. He was not then.
Leighton is definitely a joker
I love Leighton a medal mi go worlds for😂😂😂. However Yohan need to be in the relay pool for sure. He will be the stablizer for the team needs.
The rules are the rules and must be adhered to. If we don't like the rules, then officially change them. Maybe third place shouldn't be automatic. Pick McDonald to the relay pool.
Steven Gardiner is still 400 royalty. Great run from him.
You guys need back a 4x4
@@JayDublow I agree Jonny .
I wonder if Leighton would argue the same point if it were his son/grandson?
Fe real
McDonald has become a selection nightmare and this will show me if Garth have guts to make the right call.
He reported at the trials and would have won however injury in the rpunds stop him.
With only 3 jamaican with the automatic tkme i would go with them and use the next two best for mix relay.
Exception has always been to rule and this is a prefect occasion for Garth to execute.
With Gardener set to win for Bahamas Jamaica should be in the mix and McDonald is our best hope.
There is no issue, follow the rules
The point is when the rules were made, it wasn’t taking into account that some one would run so fast after being competing in the 400m prior to running such a fast time
Thank you .
Actly
Exactly
Everything leighton levy is saying screamsss unethical. He was maybe one of those persons fighting for Veronica Campbell to replace Shelly back in the day. He pissed me off during this entire interview!
I wouldn't count out Wade out of the 400 gold. He's gone where no man has been.
I agree totally
@@JayDublow care to wager on that ?
@@dereckdean578 doesn't Wade's achievements speak for itself?
Look out for Juliem Alfred.
So happy for Big Boi, and from Lane 8! Sub 44 is loading.
The policy for selection is clear-ALL the athletes have to meet the IAAF qualifying standards to be selected for the MAJOR sport events.
Why do you have rule, if you are going to break it.
Rules are guidelines not hetch in stone. Rules and guidelines are important but flexibility is the art of navigation for progressive success. 😅😊😂
Put him in the relay pool & Leave the 1st 3 from the trials alone = follow your own rules!
ShellyAnn was almost left off for this very same reason.
The deciding factor is did the athlete satisfy the condition for automatic selection. The IAAF rules clearly states if an athlete compete and DO NOT meet the qualifying standards they don't have the automatic selection.
Leighton I am kinda seeing your side of the argument....but...precedent is a thing! Remember the Petagaye Dowdie fiasco?
If I was Rusheen I would want to run the 4*4 and mix medley easiest medals there.
Extraordinary circumstance or not, although McDonald ran the 3rd fastest time in our history, there are no guarantees. He could also underperform. Likewise, Barnes or Powell could overperform. These decisions can destroy careers. Lest not forget when our beloved Ottey was chosen over Peta-gay Dowdie. If any of you heard of a successful career for Dowdie after that, please let me know.
The Peta-Gaye-Merlene Ottey situation does NOT apply here. Winners DON'T QUIT. The policy for selection is clear-ALL the athletes have to meet the IAAF qualifying standards to be selected.
Pets Gay gave up after the Ottey situation. She won the race and she was removed from the lineup. What would have happened to Shelly if she was replaced because she is an unknown. Trials are held for a reason, the athletes that qualify that day should be allowed to compete, it should not be a popularity contest.
Stop the nonsense..The rules are clear 1 2 3 once they meet the qualifying time. You all forget so soon. Sydney
Shacarri was not going to beat Alfred on this occasion, no matter what !
10.76 and 10.89 are different times. Sha'Carri has tired legs. Full strength, she isn't gonna beat Richardson.
@@quinty26 she already did..lol
@@kingston13origin27 Stop the cheerleading. It was a good run. Both athletes fresh, she is not winning. She needs to run a 10.7, to convince me otherwise.
@@quinty26 you see..a good T/F is able to foresee what an athelete will run.....a reactive fan can only wait till it happens
@@kingston13origin27 I am almost sure you said the same thing about Sheriecka against Sha'Carri recently, that Shericka would win, and look what happened. Don't talk after the fact.
McDonald is like a 1 hit wonder. He has no consistency
2 hit wonder, he has the National record well...he did it many many moons ago. He is very inconsistent probably he might just surprised us this time.
1:40; Not technically true, Alfred ran 2 races in San Salvador 2wks ago to win the 100m @CAC Games (11.24, -1.6 & 11.14, -2.2).
Yes, Ricardo corrected him.
It's very true just used your common sense and think about if you ran multiple races in a 2 weeks period you would at some point be burned out look at the time shacarri been running then she place 2nd with a 10.9 that says alot yes she had a bad start and julien alfred had an explosive start and she ran hard to the end but won with a 10.8 and I'm not taking nothing from her because she's bn doing well and putting in work and your not going to win them all but win when it matters is more important.
As an avid track and field fan and someone who is fair and balanced and also someone who generally is aligned with Mr. Levy, I'll have to TOTALLY disagree with Leighton on this. We have two individuals who are ahead of Rasheed on the individual positions and while Javaughn has not made the qualifying standard he is in the top 48 which by rule will still allow him to be at Worlds. It's more than just the ability to make a finals, I think Christopher Taylor made the finals one year and certainly didn't have to run 44.0 to get there, it's all a matter of the draw and what you are running relative to others each round and on the day. It's also about giving others the experience.
Now rules/laws are there for a reason and if something is wrong with a rule/law we should make it better. Such change to a rule/law should be made before an incident where said rule/law is being applied. A rule/law that's in place should simply be applied and in some extent interpreted but not changed to suit the situation. All athletes and their teams entering championships understood the rules/law coming in and therefore made decisions based on those rules/laws. It gives everyone the same level playing field in which to operate. These cannot be changed after the fact. For example: There may be an athlete who did everything in their power to get a 3rd place finish knowing the rules and have done everything to prepare to get that spot including travel arrangements, other expenses etc. For that all to be discarded would not be fair. If that athlete knew that they may not be selected after meeting the criteria, said athlete may have made other decisions on whether to even attempt to qualify. Herein is the reason to have a level playing field to operate, hence rules/laws.
Btw. Extraordinary situations do sometimes require extraordinary responses. What Rasheed has done is not an extraordinary circumstance that warrant bending the rules. A one of race is different from running round which will be required come Worlds and we have seen this before from Rasheed so this certainly doesn't require an extraordinary response and I know Mr. Levy knows this😊. Great discussion either way.
Having said all that - Rasheed will be an insurance in the event the other two athletes don't make the cut, Javaughn falling out of the top listing and the other gentleman falling out of form(injury etc), then Rasheed is the clear 3rd spot choice and that would not infringe on the rule.
If I were part of the JAAA selection panel I'd select Rusheen McDonald for a place on the 4×400 but he wouldn't compete in an individual event. Him cyaa manage the rounds periodt!!
This reminds me of Shelly and Veronica situation. Put him in the relay pool.
If McDanold is fit and elegable to do the indivual 400 he should run base on experence if not add him to the relsy pool which would put Jamaica closer to the Americans with a possibelity of beating them
i rather have consistent runners over the season, such as sean bàiley and antonio watson running for us, than rusheed mcdonald who is all over the place. and its not a jab at rusheed. heck he holds our national record and is a great runner, but consistency is the big thing here. no consistency means lower chance to perform
The rules are the rules but this situation is different. And he is the National Record Holder. But if I was top 3 at Nationals and they gave my dpot away Id be pissed..lol
Rule is Rule.
I would select him but the rules are the rules and not to be broken. A suh it go
GUYS LEAVE THE SELECTION FOR THE JAAA. DO THE ANNOUNCING.
I see a conflict of interest here, if JAAA contradicts its own rules this could open future disruptions. Careful of precedents.
Ok my take is put Mcdonald in the individual races, Caz if Usain bolt in his prime didn't run the semi at trials and wasn't in the top 3 for fastest time in the world to get a medical exemption. But he is the national record holder , JAAA would have allow him to run the individual race
I hope the JAAA is smart, and do not rob the youngsters of their opportunity.
..Oh what a tangled web Leighton weaves!! I say stick with the rules, lest we start down this slippery slope..
Im a bit iffi on this one. Rusheen McDonald is definitely not the most consistent. So i would say, if he drops that time again or even close to it, I support placing him in the flat 400m.
I must add though, that he does look different, stronger and better than he has ever looked.
Big boy too inconsistent, put him in relay pool
I can’t believe people still think that way after they used Merlene Ottey to crushed Petagaye Downey’s future by not selecting the latter when she beat the former. Also after they wanted to replace SAFP with Veronica in 2008 and SAFP proved them wrong and became the GOAT.
Crush the young lady future in tracks. Think it's Dowdy
The bloke in the middle needs his head screwed on correctly. What has McDonald done outside his fast time yesterday and his NR 8 yrs ago? NOTHING! Put him on the relay and pick a youngster for the individual spot!
There's no selection woe, the spot belongs to Barnes, he has the qualifying time and was also in the final. stop with this nonsense.
Definitely! If Powell can't make the time by the 30th, ZB gets it. Plain and simple
Don't hurt the other youths like that. After the championships in Jamaica, Veronica beat Shelly in Europe. People were saying to replace Shelly with Veronica. LOOK AT SHELLY NOW. LEAVE THE YOUTHS ALONE. PUT MCDONALD IN THE RELAY POOL. NO EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION.
Drop Bug Boy, he just ran well when he want to qualify!!
There is nothing in the rules that guarantee that Powell gets the third spot. The rule states that "athletes placing in the 1st to 3rd positions in all events will be selected if they have attained the qualifying standard for the event", Powell does not have the qualifying standard, meaning therefore, the JAAA is within their rights to pick any other Jamaican that has the qualifying standard.
Doesn't the rule state that if you're ranked within the 50th in the world you're qualified?
@@AnthonyWilsonOlympian that's not in JAAA rules. I quoted the rules earlier.
Thats why I know it's going to take everything the other sprinters have to offer, to defeat Shelly ,reason for this ,she'll start is going to catch them off guard 😂😂😂
These guys should do more research before they come up on national tv!
Too much corruption 😮 put him on the relay
McDonald is a one time performer. He should not be selected for the individual event.
Rusheen is consistent everywhere and anytime but when it counts at the championships. He's neither good in the individual 400m, and forget about the relays. Give the spot to someone who is promising and shows great potential. Rusheen had his day and never delivered.
Rules are Rules it should be a dare to
I agree with Leighton because we want medals against other countries. Otherwise, only send top medalists in the Trials. Hence, why have a specific Championships to make decisions and then bump a top 3 person off for medical reasons? That person could not withstand the competition when it mattered in the Trials. So we already been breaking the rules of logic.
JAAA, I say stick by the rules because making exceptions will haunt you in the future. If you had followed public sentiments in the past, Shelley Ann Fraser would not have won an Olympic gold medal in 2008. However, if you wish to make amendments to your rules for the future, please do so.
Let him run 400 and 4x400 thanks
Yes, but can he produce that time for 3 rounds. Life is not fair. Too bad so sad Mcdonald.
You know what is real track news?? Shericka got beat by ShaCarri twice this season and both times ran her down!! Let's talk about this??😂😂😂😂😂
So let forget the trials if the rules doesn't matter. The rules are the rules
Rusheen McDonald need to be selected for the flat 400m Caz powell and Barnes won't advance
YEAH RIGHT!!!! SHE LOOKED TIRED EH!!!! BUT WHEN SHE NIPPED JACKSON SHE WASNT TIRED???!!! HOW IRONIC!! JAMAICA WE LARGE!!!
The t8me to perform is the trials
Just add Mcdonald to the relay team ❤
Stick to the Rules.
the chemistry has low lows and high highs, memba wha happen to flojo not long after
The top three earn there places, Rasheed should bench this one out even if he's the fastest 400m runner for Jamaica this year...what would've happened if he replace the automatic qualifiers and go on to flop himself on the world stage coming in at last,what would've been the conversation then???
Do not be fooled by Rusheen McDonald's 44.03 seconds. He runs a fast time like every eight or so years. He has shown that he cannot sustain a quality race throughout the rounds. He ran the national record in the heats and has not come close to this time till this week. Tell Rusheen to "tek weh himself".
Fair point. But why attack the athlete in this manner though 🤷♂️
The law should not be a shackle but a general guideline. The law cannot be framed to account for every possible circumstance. Extenuating circumstances is a part of life and should be accommodated when justifiable. The whole objective should be to select your best team. I don't think anything should supersede that basic objective. Even God makes exceptions to his own law because of circumstances.
Pick McDonald. That's all.
DONT BRAKE THE RULE IT WILL ENCOURAGE CHEATING BIG TIME
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You cannot break the rules it’s simple. You will set a bad precedence in the future and it will create problems in your selection process.