Is that called open-mindedness? Maybe listening and relating to a guest? Maybe intellectual curiosity and willingness to suspend prejudice? What is Joe when you're over at his place for beers over and the microphones are switched off?
Joes just your average douche politician, he's the type of guy who if he told you his back has been hurting for awhile and you said you should get that checked out, he would say na I'm going to try this or wait it out. I'm 99% sure it's all that fake T, the real Rogan at 55 is way different but we'll never get to know his true self.
An open mind is an unoccupied one. Capitalism is no different than weightlifting Joe. I haven’t done a sit-up a push-up or a pull up in 25 years and I’m thin but you have all of the muscles and I don’t think it’s fair. I say let’s create a centralized authority to take muscle from you and give it to me. Money is no different it takes hard work, discipline, study, talent, practice, diligence, perseverance and ability. Because it takes these qualities if you were to redistribute the wealth once and left the rules of the game the way they are, the wealthy would have the wealth again and the broke asses would be broke again for the same reason, they lack the very attributes that make wealthy people wealthy. That guy wants to take someone else’s money for nothing in return and that’s theft. He wants their money for no other reason than they have it and he doesn’t. That’s greed. Now sure there were atrocities surrounding child labor but there are also benefits to child labor. In the year 1900 once a child reached the age of 12 they were physically capable of being functioning members of society contributing back to society as of the year 2000 that number was 28 and of the year 2020 that number is 32.
@@antonslavik4907 that's too simple, the military industrial complex thrives because billionaire big companies thrive during war time era. Oil companies like exxon mobile, defense like lockheed martin all thrives because of USA's never ending hunger to "police" middle eastern countries in the world. Look at the governments that has been toppled in South America because their leaders opposed the power hungry companies like Dole and Monsanto. The idea is that it's not the military that is the main problem, but who controls it, which are politicians who happens to have stakes with big companies.
@@dr.mordecaicassiusmarcellu1639 I recommend both of you to read the declaration of independence as if you wrote it. As a testament of your existence. It's a very powerful piece of writing.
you're 100% right, He makes his arguments very well even if I don't buy all of them wholesale and he seems like a lovely man. the dislikes on this video are puzzling, lotta joe's listeners seem to only be open minded in theory rather than practice
@@enchiladaplatter1 This video among many other forms of written and visual media that give a platform for Dr. West to give his views seem to show me what I said above however I may have missed some things. Would you mind showing me instances where he cares more for his people than others?
@@TheBINIBALL You're 100 percent correct but I believe this to be true about most people. The reason it might not sound like it is because people have different approaches. For example, he's in favor of universal health care. He wants everyone to have medical coverage and everything. So he has great intentions. But I'm 100 percent against universal health care for numerous reasons. It jacks costs up, especially on people who might choose to not be covered. You're paying for other people now if you make right choices while the other people do not, meaning you're forced to pay for something you might not want. This system comes with a massive shortage, a surgery you can get in weeks over here can takes months if not over a year in these other countries. You lessen innovation due to strict regulations and ruin incentive to become a doctor. I do not want the government to control the medical industry because they're corrupt and ruin everything they touch. I want the power in the hands of the people, not corrupt politicians. I'm in favor of free market medical(we don't have free market medical right now, we have a mixed system). This increases the supply of doctors because there's incentive now with less regulations, which drops medical costs(so now all groups of people can afford it). We'll have more medical innovation because people will not be blocked off from investing; which means the medical industry will boom which will save lives and contribute to having a better quality of life. So this system cures the expensive problem we have here in America and it cures the shortage problem they have in countries with universal health care. This is certainly the best system all around which is why it works so great in everything else such as food, clothing, housing, computers, phones, etc. The reason I mention this isn't to debate which system works better. It's to drive home the point that you have 2 totally opposite opinions, but both sides actually want to help people. I get criticized on the internet for wanting free market medical for not caring if people die or whatever; I do care if people die but I believe the free market system is far superior to a socialist system or the system we have here in America right now.
You've perfectly articulated your point. What does it mean for this society that the comments of seizing wealth through force get the most likes while free market freedom gets no love?
Please stop hating on Joe just because he heard something that made sense and agreed with it. What's not to agree with? This guy is against killing innocent people and also against child labor.
@@averywilliams7236 I can point out many actual leftist youtube channels if you'd like. Left-tube isn't very large but it exists. You can also simply watch channels that actually platform Dr. West - the few that exist are usually at least somewhat leftist.
@@averywilliams7236 It does sound logical, but intentions and results are 2 different things. I study economics, 99.9 percent of people do not, you want to hear the argument from some of the greatest economists in the world so we can tell you why this guy is wrong? He's in favor of universal health care. He wants everyone to have medical coverage and everything. So he has great intentions. But I'm 100 percent against universal health care for numerous reasons. It jacks costs up, especially on people who might choose to not be covered. You're paying for other people now if you make right choices while the other people do not, meaning you're forced to pay for something you might not want, I'm not covered but this is by choice because I choose to do other things with my money such as pay for college, I eat well and stay in good shape. This system comes with a massive shortage, a surgery you can get in weeks over here can takes months if not over a year in these other countries. Due to immense wait times symptoms have gotten worse and people have to stay out of work for a very long time until the surgery is completed, this is where you can make the argument that universal health care isn't really cheaper since you have to take into account all the loss pay. You lessen innovation due to strict regulations and ruin incentive to become a doctor. I do not want the government to control the medical industry because they're corrupt and ruin everything they touch. I want the power in the hands of the people, not corrupt politicians. I'm in favor of free market medical(we don't have free market medical right now, we have a mixed system). This increases the supply of doctors because there's incentive now with less regulations, which drops medical costs(so now all groups of people can afford it). We'll have more medical innovation because people will not be blocked off from investing; which means the medical industry will boom which will save lives and contribute to having a better quality of life. So this system cures the expensive problem we have here in America and it cures the shortage problem they have in countries with universal health care. This is certainly the best system all around which is why it works so great in everything else such as food, clothing, housing, computers, phones, etc. Free market medical is the far better solution for medical than universal health care. Child labor laws. How can you stop someone from working? Nobody says anything when kids are out there in the heat mowing lawns and all that, but the world goes nuts when a kid is a cashier in much safer conditions. It doesn't make sense. What if the family needs everyone contributing? Who is the government to take that away? It's good to teach kids responsibility when they're young. A friend of mine always worked when he was a kid(off the books) and became a super hard worker till this day. Let the kids start young, don't deny them that experience and the on the job training they'll get if they choose to offer their services even for free because it will help them in the long run. Labor laws in general are ridiculous. Who are they to tell me what I can and can't work for? If I want to work for 5 dollars an hour, why is the government preventing that from happening? Now I won't get hired at all and all that training and experience is now gone. Whatever happen to freedom? They're forced to pay you OT for over 40 hours, so now if you choose to work over 40 hours they might just give the hours to others so they don't have to pay you double time so now you lose out on money. If they have a certain amount of full timers working for the company they have to provide medical coverage by law. So now what? We all get our hours slashed which is what has been happening to me. I want to work more but my company said I can't or they'll have to put me full time. These policies hurt us, they do not help.
What a man Dr. Cornel West is. A man who cares about others. As an atheist I don’t agree on the spiritual views but on almost every other topic this guy is spot on.
Ive been an athiest for nearly 20 years and dr west is the embodiment of what religions say they are all about. If theist all had such compassion and engaged people in the way dr west does then i would be fine with everybody in the world believing. Unfortunately dr west is in a rare one, you can tell he has love for everyone just because of shared humanity. He might hate everything like a white supremacist stands for, but he still sees the human and wants them to not be burdened by hate
@@TheFamousMockingbird Just curious, how many observant Jewish people do you know? Because both myself and many other practicing Jews ARE like this. Just that most are quiet about it as comes with that kind of humility.
@@TheFamousMockingbird absolutely. I'm an atheist and I have an enormous amount of respect for this man. He's right 100% of the time and we should get the good ideas where they come from, no matter who's mouth those words come from.
You believe in this demockery? The injustice system too? How about the american scream? Bet you think tucker carlson and Elon musk give a fuck about you. Are you a cop?
so many revolutionaires like MLK and Fred Hampton understood that working class people are the same, regardless of colour who they prayed to... and this man is spreading the same message, a true revolutionary
Well, I can't let go of my own hate. Not when they hate the people I love. I understand that they are working class people but that doesn't mean they can't be misled. I don't have to love conservatives or their beliefs but I can definitely respect them as human beings
Irony is that a great number of down votes most likely came from the great grandchildren of the child labor victims who worked 7 days a week and died early. Have a great "weekend"
The downvotes are also coming from the military folk (his talk of the bloated military budget-750 billion).You cut that, you cut their (military folk) livelihood (pensions, grants for college, perks etc.). What they don't get is instead of putting all that money into the military we can put into making our society work for everyone event better without the loss of life. A lot of Americans think of 'me and mines' and they don't care to see past that.
@Jeremy Shaffer you must not be paying much attention to who Brother West chooses to hang out with. Chris Hedges, Richard Wolff, Bernie Sanders, Noam Chomsky- all brilliant thinkers with their own areas of expertise. As no one can be an expert in all things, the circle you cultivate educates you and informs your ideas- it's one of the reasons leaders have advisors and cabinets.
Jeremy Shaffer I love how instead of re-examining your own beliefs, you choose to think a man many times smarter and wiser than you is dumb. You’re the one who doesn’t know about socialism or economics.
Yeah there nothing like people telling you when it's ok to go to work or not . There is a way for you to not get taken advantage of by your employer be good at your job you guys sound like socialist unions top out in pay in an open market my skills dont have a cap
Justin Weaver I’m an HVAC contractor, no one tells me where to work, how to work, and how much I can charge etc no one is taking advantage of me and I’m not taking advantage of anyone. Unions are great, if that’s not your cup of tea that’s fine.
Dear Anti Socialist. What Govt programs are you wanting to cut exactly? Social security, medicare, K-12, infrastructure, subsidies, fire departments, policing, our military, libraries, postal service, public landfills, dept transportation, housing assistance, food assistance.
Do you not understand the term "Limited Government" ? Anti-socialists aren't completely against government programs, they're just against massively expanding governments role and power. Many anti-socialists are also for smaller government or more power to state and local governments. You decided to throw in a few things that local governments have control over. Fire departments, policing, libraries, transportation....all of that is controlled by state and local governments. How is it that many socialists believe that the government is corrupt, especially the federal government, yet want to drastically expand the power of the federal government?
@@lb1181 Socialism actually has nothing to do with governmental power. You need to learn more. It can increase governmental power but it doesn't have to. Socialism only implies democratic ownership at the workplace - that's it. It means you're in a union and you have property rights associated with your work. Democratic socialism is a co-opted term because people are stupid and maligned what socialism meant for years. All democratic socialism means is co-opting the policies that already work in Europe and even in America for example with Medicaid for all via a single-payer insurance program. It's really a no brainer - the only advocation against it is due to the lobbying interests of insurance conglomerates. Zero actual citizens have a logical reason for the current healthcare system. Possibly other policies could be considered democratic socialism - such as free education or prison reform - basically any good idea America is retarded on compared to the rest of the world. Still, democratic socialism is 100% capitalistic - it does not imply any worker instilled democratic ownership.
@@michaelkahn8903 I don't think how "hard" you work is any metric to determine how much money you make. Mining coal is definitely much "harder" work than many jobs that pay far more, but how "hard" you work isn't what determines how much money you make. Capitalism isn't always fair, but neither is life, but I'd much rather have a system that is more based on freedom than it is on government bureaucracy and eventual tyranny when the people in control of policy end up being a little more equal than everyone else.
@@edwardreadletter2182 I agree if the reality was as it appears to be. I am not a socialist-I am a democratic anarchist- I dont think we should be forced to do anything we dont want to- no masters, no slaves-i hope to create a new civilization. These rich people are not looking out for our good. They have taken the nutrition out of our food (GMOs), have poisoned us (vaccinations)in our medical system, they have subverted and diverted us (media), they have murdered us (9-11) and used that murder as an excuse to murder millions of others, caused global warming intentionally-they have developed capitalism as a tool to destroy humanity- i write much about the character of the rich- they worship satan- freemasonry- and for money have sold not only themselves, but also our wellbeing. Since thousands of years, gods have enjoyed ruling over and oppressing people-I intend to take down the devil with the people beside me. Satan's ways are deception and oppression.
@@edwardreadletter2182 Furthermore, kings and their obedient armies have oppressed, conquered, enslaved, and oppressed people for centuries, eons. People as a whole, have a good nature. Rich people, considering themselves as gods, want others to be subservient to them, call them "sir" "honorable" "dr" etc..they tell you that they are the experts as they destroy you, place themselves as authority to rule over you and oppress you- live a double-faced life and lie- have different standards for themselves and those that they rule over. Life does not have to be unfair- i dont accept injustice- i will fight against it- i refuse to bend my knee to wicked people. NO MASTERS- NO SLAVES. and coal miners have to live in poverty while performing slave-like hard labor that is dangerous?? i defy that as fair or right- THE PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER!!!
Yeah man I love his reminder about child labor laws, water quality, food inspection and how it relates to the 'let the free market decide' bullshit. That was precisely what happened when we let the market decide. Kids worked 7 days a week with dirt on their face, terrible water quality, people were literally falling into meat grinders and sold as meat, etc. Every possible cut was made in efforts of producing the most profit until we had to intervene because that's what the free market was deciding.
Industrialization was even more brutal in non-capitalist societies. USSR, China, Cambodia, etc. You're a deciever. The capitalist west has always had higher standards than the centrally planned economies of authoritarian states.
@@Paelorian Yet people still have to set up gofundme accounts for essential healthcare in the US or go bankrupt for getting sick. All while Bezos is trying to hit 200 billion by making his workers piss in bottles. 'High standards' lmao
Agreed, the extremes of Capitalism and Socialism are negative. The sweet spot is somewhere in the middle and best determined/acquired through Democratic. accountability.
Wow, Joe Rogan finally interviewed a dedicated leftist. A serious academic one mind you. Never thought I'd see the day. Yes, must be painful for his regular viewers.
Im a regular viewer, independent and support these ideas and open to hear ideas of others. I listen to a wide branch of channels, streams, and even conservative pundents. I see people as humans trying to figure out how to make sense of this whole thing and what we can do while we are here. Painful to those that have been met with more cognitive dissonance and confusion but I am equally happy when I can agree with some conservatives and right wing politically identified people. We need to help each other and not tear each other down. And I hope we can have non biased part discussion...it may not happen with the extremely identified right and Left however
@@alfarouqaminufor3892 That attitude towards companies is what allows them to not be held accountable for their actions. If they are an American company "that actually stood for Colin Kaepernick's Social awareness cause" then they would treat their workers like human beings instead of modern day slaves. Plus, it should NOT matter where on earth or what country a company is in, they should ALWAYS treat their work with dignity and respect, or a living wage. Only a charlaton would say "why care," about corporate abuse of the people creating the profit for the company.
The man says "we have to listen to our right wing brothers and sisters" and yet the right wingers are still visibly angry in these comments. Tell me, what happened to diversity of thought/opinion? Furthermore, do any of you say the say about your counterparts on the left?
@@henryplce2225 Except it WOULD cancel profit and private ownership: to an extent. Swedish and Swiss policies, by definition, cancel profit and private ownership, to an extent.
1k disklike in a video where a brilliant man speaks nothing but the truth about information readily available to all. Sad state the world and America is in.
Mag Rhino Joe's stayed many MANY times he's on the left, and the views he's put forward on the show are just like that. Just because he isn't YOUR idea of a Progressive person doesn't mean he isn't. He wants his guests to talk and explain their views as much as they can, he's not gonna constantly challenge and interject them. Just how he does his podcast.
@@Jimmy-es8bc As a regular listener I can imagine vocal online supporters being pretty annoying. I mean the hosts of the podcast regularly make fun of their own supporters. But you can pretty much say the same thing about any dedicated online fan base at this point. The most vocal supporters tend to be the worst representatives.
I wasn't trying to make any comment on socialism. I just think it's funny how neutral a reaction this got, because usually you expect a political related video to either get mostly support or mostly hate. Also funny how the like/dislike ratio aligns perfectly with the top comment.
Merriam-Webster Dictionary Definition socialism noun so·cial·ism | \ ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm \ Definition of socialism 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
It's time to have Cornel West back on thee JRE now that he's challenging the political duopoly by running for president in a third party! I can not imagine a better third party candidate. Independents are the biggest voting block in the states. I feel he could really disrupt your corrupt political system.
It’s interesting to watch the course Joe has set over the past couple years. Jordan Peterson: Socialism is a bloody scourge and will never work. Joe Rogan: I agree. Cornel West is guest....... Joe Rogan: democratic socialism has just like, never been done the right way.
I mean Democratic socialism as practiced in Scandinavia is really a form of capitalism with a big welfare state. Tho most people advocating for socialism are dishonest about this
Well the socialist policies they are talking about are NOTHING like the market breaking policies today's socialists are pushing for, so you can't even compare the type of socialism talked about in this clip to today's socialism. That's why people aren't arguing. Also they went on a completely irrelevant tangent about the civilian collateral damage from war? It is typical liberal brainwashing that is America bad socialism good
@@mothurman whats funny about this is that cornell west isnt at odds with the rest of socialists 😂 the brainwashing was done on you to make you think a "market" is something to be protected lol.
Lol the guy that dont even pay his workers 15 an hour while preaching it, the guy who took tax deduction to pay less taxes while preaching for 50 perce tax rate, the guy who bought a new house and a couple of cars while complaining about the rich buying multiple houses and cars. You talking about that guy?
" i don't believe in hating anybody individually, i hate greed, i hate injustice, i hate white supremacy, i hate anti-jewish prejudice, i hate anti-Palestinian prejudice, i hate patriarchy and so forth but the HUMAN BEINGS were these ideology filter thru are still human beings". - Dr. Cornel West. THIS STATEMENT IS MONUMENTAL. POWERFUL BEYOND MEASURE.
I pray theres a new labor movement to extend the weekend to Monday. We got the children out of the workplace, we got 8 hour days, and a 2 day weekend... why'd we stop there?!?
Why stop at a weekend? Workers should own the means of production. Workers coops are evidence enough that we don't need the bourgeoisie to administrate us.
@@waldo9439 the idea that this country was not built on socialism and can stand the test of time with it. Get real. If i recall , i remember when there was the big deal about minorities getting free passes to college with lower test scores than white kids but the white kids weren't accepted. Then they found out most of the ones who got the free gift of going fucking dropped out.
We need to stop looking at things in a dualistic way, with only little expectation. Then we can stop labelling what is politically right or wrong and truly focus on what we can do with room for mistake, then we will learn.
David Simon picked up on this. He talked about how every group from the far left to the far right found justification for their ideology when they watch 'The Wire'. He then went on to say that when he heard people talking about how their one size all ideology was the solution or explanation to everything, he realized that they were pretty much useless in helping things get better.
Andrew Yang said that during his Presidential run - I agree. And, of course, the “right” and “left” have a lot in common. Both sides heavily in favour of universal healthcare, anti-war, tax increases on the rich and so on. But cuz there’s this sports team mentality of my side/your side, people get blinded.
@@landonic81 seems like socialism fits well into alot of Joes old podcasts with Duncan trussell... Idk how you listen to those and then this one and don't see similar ideas
Waldo - the fact that he romanticized Socialism. It does not matter if you put Democratic in front of it. It is still Socialism! That is how it’s designed. To lure you in with promises of a utopia, but in reality it will be the collapse of our economy. And it will be paid by astronomical taxes, inflation, and food shortages.
Nick - a basic economics class will debunk Socialism. The nature of Socialism is disguised. It is an enabler for tyranny. That is how it starts, a simple promise whispered into your ear like Dr. West does. Do not be fooled.
Cornel West articulates ideas of modern day leftists and dismantles right-wing talking points so fluently while still coming off completely authentic like no one else. I wasn’t alive while MLK was around, but I can only imagine he came from a similar place of love and kinship.
Whether you agree with him or not,Dr. West is a brilliant scholar,who forces people to think outside of their comfort zone on topics that affect us all.
Wait why are they saying it's never been implemented correctly... It's working pretty damn well in Scandinavia...Ok go ahead and say they're more capitalist than socialist.... Meanwhile they have universal healthcare and when I say I want universal healthcare in America you call me a socialist.
@@artemiasalina1860 Kind of a blanket statement. Unions have much more power in most Scandinavian countries. Saying an entire economy is "freer" than another is just a bit reductionist imo.
Dr. Cornel West is a man I strive to emulate. His courage is beyond the strongest warrior. His intelligence is unattainable to the most educated professor. His compassion is on the level of a mother caring for her newborn. And to me his greatest attribute is his insight which is more profound than the most powerful clairvoyant.
Aaron Shaw Don’t forget bread lines, gulags, revolutionary firing squads bc some poor farmer fought hard for that too... wait that’s socialism. Growing middles classes are evil!
@@bobbycalifornia7077 That's revolutionary totalitarian socialism, not social democracy or democratic socialism. I get the feeling you think every type of socialism is some form of a totalitarian dictatorship.
Aslan And the point being that working without weekends is the capitalist version of that. Not a natural feature. Also, weekends are not a feature of socialism and disingenuous to say so. Like most what is being discussed here. Democratic socialism is as destructive as the socialism that I just described and you know it.
Aslan Look who’s talking. Better yet look at Bernie’s latest mess. Imagine that on a national level... but that’s not implemented right? It never is right? It never will be right? No credibility there.
Travis Guy Republicans violate the constitution any way they can. Trump loves doing it. Republicans let him get away with it cause they're a bunch of cowards
Good stuff here. I also think it should be pointed out that things like Medicare for all are forms of socialism that are implemented around the world with success. Some examples of successful socialism are places like Denmark, Sweden, and Norway. Another example of it is right here in America. They mentioned the fire department and police, but there is also socialism for the rich and corporations. Bernie Sanders brought this up recently. Socialism is seen as bad by establishment and the mainstream until it is used for the wealth. Then they love it.
Socialism can get messy on the scale of the United States. Those countries are tiny in comparison. Denmark is comparable to the population of maryland. It can be easier to manage. California still screws up their socialist policies. I'm not saying it couldn't work. Denmark and those other countries work because they have a lot of efforts to support a free market and not prevent a lot of natural capitalist policies. PragerU made a video about denmark being a socialist country, one thing people overlook is that after they adopted a more socialist government, they had an economic crisis until they managed to sort it all out years after, there was even a tax protester party that was created because of their change to socialism. They support free market and individual property rights and are easy places to open a business. All themes of capitalism, hopefully without the crony capitalism. They just have higher taxes and social programs like healthcare, because they make a lot of money. They're even backing out of retirement programs to give that power back to the individuals as we all can see throughout the world how bad that's going to end up. Hopefully it works. Here's the video if you're curious. th-cam.com/video/tzEPKrHalaY/w-d-xo.html
Socialism can get messy on the scale of the United States. Those countries are tiny in comparison. Denmark is comparable to the population of maryland. It can be easier to manage. California still screws up their socialist policies. I'm not saying it couldn't work. Denmark and those other countries work because they have a lot of efforts to support a free market and not prevent a lot of natural capitalist policies. PragerU made a video about denmark being a socialist country, one thing people overlook is that after they adopted a more socialist government, they had an economic crisis until they managed to sort it all out years after, there was even a tax protester party that was created because of their change to socialism. They support free market and individual property rights and are easy places to open a business. All themes of capitalism, hopefully without the crony capitalism. They just have higher taxes and social programs like healthcare, because they make a lot of money. They're even backing out of retirement programs to give that power back to the individuals as we all can see throughout the world how bad that's going to end up. Hopefully it works. Here's the video if you're curious. th-cam.com/video/tzEPKrHalaY/w-d-xo.html
@Astro naut Not in America. Bernie and AOC are social democrats and the right and commenters here call them "socialist" all the time. Some people even think Nazism and universal healthcare are related because of the word "socialist". The same word can mean all kinds of things (or nothing at all) depending on usage and context. Language is messy, meaning is what matters. Low-IQ people can't grasp this basic concept.
so instead we have a generation of super lazy kids.. why doesn't Joe ask him about all the big business buying off both parties. that's what we are really sick of
He indirectly talked about it close to the end, but he won't say it directly because he risks his entire support base alienating him. Between the lines
@Altaf Kalam I have family in scandavia and have visited and they aren't hard working people at all. The system is setup to penalize you harshly if you make to much money so many don't even try to excel.
canofrockstar you should look up his work. He is constantly critical of this very thing in a very straightforward and very public way. It’s his reason for supporting Bernie as publicly and frequently as he does.
You've forgotten how young the United States is as a governed country compared to other countries in the world. Europe and Asia has been well established way long before.
As a governed country? Well as a sustained current country America is quite old compared to most. Further, Europe and Asia are obviously not countries. But Russia, Germany and Japan are and these current countries are incredibly young as current countries.
Unfortunately, the majority of Joe's audience isn't ready for truthful, intelligent discussion on socialist policies. They still mistakenly conflate socialism with authoritarianism. Maybe in another 20 years some of them will get it. Joe's trying to help educate his viewers, and they resent it lol! Great point in here btw, "what is inherited wealth, if not a free ride?" Not to mention the bloated military budget, which no one can speak against, without drawing the ire of the military industrial complex, and their mouthpieces.
But the weird thing is they like Trump and he is a fake authoritarian I don't get it they're like the most contradictive people and I agree they're not ready for this their brain simply just can't handle it
To have 500 military bases around the world is ridiculous and unethical!!! Why not just have one military base for every continent???? Imagine what we could do with that money not stupidly spent on militarism???? But we’re the US of A 😔
I agree our military footprint is way too big. However, our military spending is 1/16 of the discretionary budget. That is the budget that has to be approved by appropriation bills. The discretionary budget is 37%of total government spending. The other almost 80% of spending is on auto pilot. Medicare/Medicare, entitlement programs and debt service. We spend way more on entitlement programs to poor people. This is why we need to peel off the illegals from government assistance so we can take care of Americans first and deliver better services to our people.
el Entrada 1 A whole lot of bs but cool story bro. But we definitely need to get rid of the middle man healthcare insurance industry to reduce healthcare spending.
@@elentrada1600 what? We use more money on our military than the next 10 countries combined. One of trump's budget increases could have paid for tuition free college alone. We spend way to much on the military
Dr. Cornell West is a great guy, I have listened to him for decades in interviews on TV and such. He has a huge heart and a great conception of justice as a philosopher. He is not a great intellect or big brain though. I have heard him say things that shows he does not really understand the tax system or how business works ... but he is correct on most things in principle.
Socialists plays on your insecurities of failure. Capitalists want to see your true potential. Socialists want you to submit to the collective. Capitalists understand the true nature of freedom.
Yes much freedom when corporations overpice healthcare and college tuition and buy out our government, while paying you as little as possible to get away with
Socialists care about helping the poor. Capitalists play on the sham that this country works for everyone. Socialists wanna make sure everyone in this country had a chance to succeed and no one is left behind. Capitalism is why billionaires and massive corporations are able to control our politics, and avoid their taxes with no punishment. Billionaire shouldn't exist
I've never understood why the US doesn't want socialised medicine. The NHS isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but on average we pay just over half what the americans do and we live 2 years longer.
Why all the downvotes? Rogan rarely invites academics with leftist/socialist sympathies. I thought Rogan fans were open minded to different views. It's nice to see more variety. Dr. West made some good points there.
They're open-minded when they're in an echo-chamber. I mean literally the first two comments I saw on Joe's initial video was how he now needed to bring on a black conservative intellectual like Thomas Sowell or Larry Elder "because it's only right." LMAO
They're fucking conservatives, they like only their bubble protected, Rogan on the other hand is a center right liberal, which is why he is more open in talking to various people on the right and left.
I think Joe's ability to be cordial to everyone's views is what makes him fantastic. Otherwise everything would degrade into a debate/argument....and we wouldn't get to see people for who they are!.... and have a go in the comments sections! :)
My favorite part about these videos is that there is always those conservatives who see it and there immediately thought process is "Well I have to mention Thomas Sowell because he's a conservative black man who hates socialism and adores capitalism, so its a great refutation because Cornel West is a progressive black man who loves socialism." It's rather embarrassing tbh.
@@Prof.Maxwell No. I’m calling it like I see it. Simply look through the comments. I don’t see any other conservative capitalist economists being brought up in the comments section except for Thomas Sowell. Connect the dots. It’s not a huge leap unless you are entirely naive.
@@Prof.Maxwell also, I grew up and still live in Oklahoma. This is how conservatives think. Same idiots who think that being a fan of black actors and rap music means you can’t be racist.
@@Prof.Maxwell also, Cornel West is black, as is Thomas Sowell. So I’m not bringing up race. Merely acknowledging it already exists in this. Nice try though.
@@jl8410 Again, you are the one who chose to talk about race, most people mention Thomas Sowell because he is the BEST conservative / Libertarian social thinker of the past four decades not just within blacks, but across America as a whole. It's interesting that when conversations are about ideologies, race still has to be a talking point. And I have been scrolling through the comments and you are literally the first person I saw who mentions race.
gabethedizzle you don't want to talk about the hundreds of millions that have died from causes do to capitalism all over the world yet you reactionaries want to throw out inflated numbers from cold war propoganda
What do social programs have to do with 200 million dead bodies? I dont see how universal healthcare murders people. I think it’s a mistake to tie authoritarian regimes with communist policies to the application of social programs to a mixed economy, which the US already does, just not to the degree of Europe and other countries
@@Mister006 ones an economist and the other is a philosopher, be doesn't rely on logic, science or math. You can be a bad philosopher as long as you market your ideas well
@@JazzfireflyNZ Yeah, but there are certain ideas witch he will make a clear opinion why he doesn't like it. Yet when those same ideas are talked about with a particular guest who might be in favor for those ideas. joe doesn't disagree or challenge, yet almost softly agrees with the person. We have seen time and time again.
@David Ferguson you mean like because it's in their name or have you actually sat down to understand their government structure, specially when compared to the US?
@@henryplce2225 do you even know the meaning of the word socialist? I'm a property developer and own a few businesses By definition it is impossible for me to be a socialist. Believing in. a fairer society does not mean socialism, once again it is embarrassing how ignorant the average American is.
Reminds me of the old podcasts, Cornel is a breath of fresh air compared to the right wing puppets propped up by the billionaire class like the guests Joe has had on in recent years, finally a real intellectual who actually cares about the people!
Joe Rogan when talking to a socialist: Wow I think I'm a socialist now
Joe Rogan when talking to a capitalist: Wow I think I'm a capitalist now
Is that called open-mindedness? Maybe listening and relating to a guest? Maybe intellectual curiosity and willingness to suspend prejudice? What is Joe when you're over at his place for beers over and the microphones are switched off?
theres a difference between being open minded,and doing no research and having no opinions of your own
@@royzaarour2429 you are spitting dude
Joes just your average douche politician, he's the type of guy who if he told you his back has been hurting for awhile and you said you should get that checked out, he would say na I'm going to try this or wait it out. I'm 99% sure it's all that fake T, the real Rogan at 55 is way different but we'll never get to know his true self.
An open mind is an unoccupied one. Capitalism is no different than weightlifting Joe. I haven’t done a sit-up a push-up or a pull up in 25 years and I’m thin but you have all of the muscles and I don’t think it’s fair. I say let’s create a centralized authority to take muscle from you and give it to me. Money is no different it takes hard work, discipline, study, talent, practice, diligence, perseverance and ability. Because it takes these qualities if you were to redistribute the wealth once and left the rules of the game the way they are, the wealthy would have the wealth again and the broke asses would be broke again for the same reason, they lack the very attributes that make wealthy people wealthy. That guy wants to take someone else’s money for nothing in return and that’s theft. He wants their money for no other reason than they have it and he doesn’t. That’s greed.
Now sure there were atrocities surrounding child labor but there are also benefits to child labor. In the year 1900 once a child reached the age of 12 they were physically capable of being functioning members of society contributing back to society as of the year 2000 that number was 28 and of the year 2020 that number is 32.
Martin luther king once said welfare to the rich are called subdizes, while welfare to the poor is called handouts.
Jean Pierre Mzulwini 🙏🏼
Cause Rich make all the new things? And poor spend it on drugs and alcohol?
@B olton || Not to mention that in addition, the rich spend it on drugs and alcohol as well.
@@antonslavik4907 what do the rich peoples kids do? nothing? and they just inherit the wealth
Anton Slavik ok boomer
He's totally right about military industrial complex
That's because he's right about everything. The same big brain that concludes the MIC is evil also concludes trump is evil.
So.. with the military-industrial complex we established that giving large sums of money to government is bad, right?
@@antonslavik4907 The reasons why the MIC is evil is not because it's publicly funded, even though it is publicly funded.
@@antonslavik4907 that's too simple, the military industrial complex thrives because billionaire big companies thrive during war time era. Oil companies like exxon mobile, defense like lockheed martin all thrives because of USA's never ending hunger to "police" middle eastern countries in the world. Look at the governments that has been toppled in South America because their leaders opposed the power hungry companies like Dole and Monsanto.
The idea is that it's not the military that is the main problem, but who controls it, which are politicians who happens to have stakes with big companies.
Socialism for the rich and rugged individualism for the poor .
Who is getting tax cuts that they do not need ? It is a big club and you ain't in it .@@HippieSkippy100
What rights are you talking about ?@@HippieSkippy100
Why do you think that the government of the people for the people is bad . It is not that way now .@@HippieSkippy100
@@HippieSkippy100 You say that like its a good thing.
@@dr.mordecaicassiusmarcellu1639 I recommend both of you to read the declaration of independence as if you wrote it. As a testament of your existence. It's a very powerful piece of writing.
Dr. West cares about people. You may not agree with his politics or his beliefs but it's hard not to see that he truly cares about humanity
you're 100% right, He makes his arguments very well even if I don't buy all of them wholesale and he seems like a lovely man. the dislikes on this video are puzzling, lotta joe's listeners seem to only be open minded in theory rather than practice
@@enchiladaplatter1 This video among many other forms of written and visual media that give a platform for Dr. West to give his views seem to show me what I said above however I may have missed some things. Would you mind showing me instances where he cares more for his people than others?
@Charming Billy Thanks for your insightful comment Billy
@@TheBINIBALL You're 100 percent correct but I believe this to be true about most people. The reason it might not sound like it is because people have different approaches.
For example, he's in favor of universal health care. He wants everyone to have medical coverage and everything. So he has great intentions. But I'm 100 percent against universal health care for numerous reasons. It jacks costs up, especially on people who might choose to not be covered. You're paying for other people now if you make right choices while the other people do not, meaning you're forced to pay for something you might not want. This system comes with a massive shortage, a surgery you can get in weeks over here can takes months if not over a year in these other countries. You lessen innovation due to strict regulations and ruin incentive to become a doctor. I do not want the government to control the medical industry because they're corrupt and ruin everything they touch. I want the power in the hands of the people, not corrupt politicians.
I'm in favor of free market medical(we don't have free market medical right now, we have a mixed system). This increases the supply of doctors because there's incentive now with less regulations, which drops medical costs(so now all groups of people can afford it). We'll have more medical innovation because people will not be blocked off from investing; which means the medical industry will boom which will save lives and contribute to having a better quality of life. So this system cures the expensive problem we have here in America and it cures the shortage problem they have in countries with universal health care. This is certainly the best system all around which is why it works so great in everything else such as food, clothing, housing, computers, phones, etc.
The reason I mention this isn't to debate which system works better. It's to drive home the point that you have 2 totally opposite opinions, but both sides actually want to help people. I get criticized on the internet for wanting free market medical for not caring if people die or whatever; I do care if people die but I believe the free market system is far superior to a socialist system or the system we have here in America right now.
You've perfectly articulated your point. What does it mean for this society that the comments of seizing wealth through force get the most likes while free market freedom gets no love?
Please stop hating on Joe just because he heard something that made sense and agreed with it. What's not to agree with? This guy is against killing innocent people and also against child labor.
You can't reason with people that have been severely brainwashed there's no point in even talking to them
@ky malone I would say that it’s our duty to engage with them. Some will be able to think their way out of the echo chamber.
@@kyoakland help me understand bother, what am I missing? Dude sounds logical to me.
@@averywilliams7236 I can point out many actual leftist youtube channels if you'd like. Left-tube isn't very large but it exists. You can also simply watch channels that actually platform Dr. West - the few that exist are usually at least somewhat leftist.
@@averywilliams7236 It does sound logical, but intentions and results are 2 different things. I study economics, 99.9 percent of people do not, you want to hear the argument from some of the greatest economists in the world so we can tell you why this guy is wrong?
He's in favor of universal health care. He wants everyone to have medical coverage and everything. So he has great intentions. But I'm 100 percent against universal health care for numerous reasons. It jacks costs up, especially on people who might choose to not be covered. You're paying for other people now if you make right choices while the other people do not, meaning you're forced to pay for something you might not want, I'm not covered but this is by choice because I choose to do other things with my money such as pay for college, I eat well and stay in good shape. This system comes with a massive shortage, a surgery you can get in weeks over here can takes months if not over a year in these other countries. Due to immense wait times symptoms have gotten worse and people have to stay out of work for a very long time until the surgery is completed, this is where you can make the argument that universal health care isn't really cheaper since you have to take into account all the loss pay. You lessen innovation due to strict regulations and ruin incentive to become a doctor. I do not want the government to control the medical industry because they're corrupt and ruin everything they touch. I want the power in the hands of the people, not corrupt politicians.
I'm in favor of free market medical(we don't have free market medical right now, we have a mixed system). This increases the supply of doctors because there's incentive now with less regulations, which drops medical costs(so now all groups of people can afford it). We'll have more medical innovation because people will not be blocked off from investing; which means the medical industry will boom which will save lives and contribute to having a better quality of life. So this system cures the expensive problem we have here in America and it cures the shortage problem they have in countries with universal health care. This is certainly the best system all around which is why it works so great in everything else such as food, clothing, housing, computers, phones, etc.
Free market medical is the far better solution for medical than universal health care.
Child labor laws. How can you stop someone from working? Nobody says anything when kids are out there in the heat mowing lawns and all that, but the world goes nuts when a kid is a cashier in much safer conditions. It doesn't make sense. What if the family needs everyone contributing? Who is the government to take that away? It's good to teach kids responsibility when they're young. A friend of mine always worked when he was a kid(off the books) and became a super hard worker till this day. Let the kids start young, don't deny them that experience and the on the job training they'll get if they choose to offer their services even for free because it will help them in the long run. Labor laws in general are ridiculous. Who are they to tell me what I can and can't work for? If I want to work for 5 dollars an hour, why is the government preventing that from happening? Now I won't get hired at all and all that training and experience is now gone. Whatever happen to freedom? They're forced to pay you OT for over 40 hours, so now if you choose to work over 40 hours they might just give the hours to others so they don't have to pay you double time so now you lose out on money. If they have a certain amount of full timers working for the company they have to provide medical coverage by law. So now what? We all get our hours slashed which is what has been happening to me. I want to work more but my company said I can't or they'll have to put me full time. These policies hurt us, they do not help.
Must be painful for a lot of regular viewers
Ikr? A guy who's an actual socialist that can articulate his points and is very well educated
@@zerothefool2437 Are like in denial or something? Socialism has always exsisted in this govt, just not to the point that Europe was.
@@zerothefool2437 There are good aspects of socialism and bad.! Same with Capitalism, it's all about balance
I don't think socialism is bad guys, just saying that this is one of the very rare times that Joe has an actual socialist on
Joe Rogan Questions Everything huh?
Reg viewer since JRE#55. Still a big fan... But this shit hurts my feelings
What a man Dr. Cornel West is. A man who cares about others. As an atheist I don’t agree on the spiritual views but on almost every other topic this guy is spot on.
Ive been an athiest for nearly 20 years and dr west is the embodiment of what religions say they are all about. If theist all had such compassion and engaged people in the way dr west does then i would be fine with everybody in the world believing. Unfortunately dr west is in a rare one, you can tell he has love for everyone just because of shared humanity. He might hate everything like a white supremacist stands for, but he still sees the human and wants them to not be burdened by hate
Agree 100%. As a secular humanist, we have more views in common as a compassionate Christian Dr. West is than most who share his spiritual views.
@@TheFamousMockingbird Just curious, how many observant Jewish people do you know? Because both myself and many other practicing Jews ARE like this. Just that most are quiet about it as comes with that kind of humility.
@@TheFamousMockingbird absolutely. I'm an atheist and I have an enormous amount of respect for this man. He's right 100% of the time and we should get the good ideas where they come from, no matter who's mouth those words come from.
The term ‘Atheist’ only describes my position on the God hypothesis.
The fact that Dr West refers to conservatives as his brothers and sisters instead of his enemies shows he’s a genuine person
True Marxists side with workers regardless of their ideology
what he means by brothers and sisters, he means black people... dumb ass...
You believe in this demockery? The injustice system too? How about the american scream? Bet you think tucker carlson and Elon musk give a fuck about you. Are you a cop?
so many revolutionaires like MLK and Fred Hampton understood that working class people are the same, regardless of colour who they prayed to... and this man is spreading the same message, a true revolutionary
Well, I can't let go of my own hate. Not when they hate the people I love. I understand that they are working class people but that doesn't mean they can't be misled. I don't have to love conservatives or their beliefs but I can definitely respect them as human beings
Get Richard Wolff on!!!
HELL YEAH!
Hell no.
@@rod6189 Then don't watch it, or do, you might learn something
@@alejandro3702 yes sure, lol
Yes, and Noam Chomsky would be legendary.
I didn't know how much of a fan of Dr. Cornel West I was until now.
He's a compassionate activist.
Irony is that a great number of down votes most likely came from the great grandchildren of the child labor victims who worked 7 days a week and died early. Have a great "weekend"
let that sink in you coal miners folk
There own worst enemies. Well said.
Know your history so you don't embarrass yourself.
@@moreofawave
Absolutely.
The downvotes are also coming from the military folk (his talk of the bloated military budget-750 billion).You cut that, you cut their (military folk) livelihood (pensions, grants for college, perks etc.). What they don't get is instead of putting all that money into the military we can put into making our society work for everyone event better without the loss of life. A lot of Americans think of 'me and mines' and they don't care to see past that.
Cornel West is a fountain of wisdom!
@Jeremy Shaffer you must not be paying much attention to who Brother West chooses to hang out with. Chris Hedges, Richard Wolff, Bernie Sanders, Noam Chomsky- all brilliant thinkers with their own areas of expertise. As no one can be an expert in all things, the circle you cultivate educates you and informs your ideas- it's one of the reasons leaders have advisors and cabinets.
Jeremy Shaffer I love how instead of re-examining your own beliefs, you choose to think a man many times smarter and wiser than you is dumb. You’re the one who doesn’t know about socialism or economics.
All trying to push the utopian society. None of it is grounded in reality.
Fountain of shit you mean. Just look at all the socialist economical world powwrs... Oh wait...
Find some Polish, Russian anyone from eastern block and ask why they ran away from their countries...
"But the human beings that these ideologies filter through are still human beings". Deep respect. This dude is genuinely good.
I love being in the union. Otherwise my job would walk all over me. As workers we need representation.
Union all the way!
Some unions are trash like the teacher unions however some unions are good.
dan cash
Yes, and some jobs are great without representation and some are horrible without.
Yeah there nothing like people telling you when it's ok to go to work or not . There is a way for you to not get taken advantage of by your employer be good at your job you guys sound like socialist unions top out in pay in an open market my skills dont have a cap
Justin Weaver
I’m an HVAC contractor, no one tells me where to work, how to work, and how much I can charge etc no one is taking advantage of me and I’m not taking advantage of anyone. Unions are great, if that’s not your cup of tea that’s fine.
Dear Anti Socialist. What Govt programs are you wanting to cut exactly? Social security, medicare, K-12, infrastructure, subsidies, fire departments, policing, our military, libraries, postal service, public landfills, dept transportation, housing assistance, food assistance.
Do you not understand the term "Limited Government" ? Anti-socialists aren't completely against government programs, they're just against massively expanding governments role and power. Many anti-socialists are also for smaller government or more power to state and local governments. You decided to throw in a few things that local governments have control over. Fire departments, policing, libraries, transportation....all of that is controlled by state and local governments.
How is it that many socialists believe that the government is corrupt, especially the federal government, yet want to drastically expand the power of the federal government?
They're too dumb to understand they've been brainwashed by corporate media
immediately cut all international aid and no govt money for abortions.
@@lb1181 Socialism actually has nothing to do with governmental power. You need to learn more. It can increase governmental power but it doesn't have to. Socialism only implies democratic ownership at the workplace - that's it. It means you're in a union and you have property rights associated with your work.
Democratic socialism is a co-opted term because people are stupid and maligned what socialism meant for years. All democratic socialism means is co-opting the policies that already work in Europe and even in America for example with Medicaid for all via a single-payer insurance program. It's really a no brainer - the only advocation against it is due to the lobbying interests of insurance conglomerates. Zero actual citizens have a logical reason for the current healthcare system. Possibly other policies could be considered democratic socialism - such as free education or prison reform - basically any good idea America is retarded on compared to the rest of the world. Still, democratic socialism is 100% capitalistic - it does not imply any worker instilled democratic ownership.
@@enchiladaplatter1 No Govt money goes for abortions now, never has. I agree with cuts to international aid to countries with stable economies.
"Socialism" a word the greedy use anytime someone suggests doing anything to help others.
Or the word people use for when people that actually work and pay taxes get their money stolen and redistributed to people that don't.
@@edwardreadletter2182 OR used derogatorally by people who like to get paid hundreds of times more than people who work harder than them.
@@michaelkahn8903 I don't think how "hard" you work is any metric to determine how much money you make. Mining coal is definitely much "harder" work than many jobs that pay far more, but how "hard" you work isn't what determines how much money you make. Capitalism isn't always fair, but neither is life, but I'd much rather have a system that is more based on freedom than it is on government bureaucracy and eventual tyranny when the people in control of policy end up being a little more equal than everyone else.
@@edwardreadletter2182 I agree if the reality was as it appears to be. I am not a socialist-I am a democratic anarchist- I dont think we should be forced to do anything we dont want to- no masters, no slaves-i hope to create a new civilization. These rich people are not looking out for our good. They have taken the nutrition out of our food (GMOs), have poisoned us (vaccinations)in our medical system, they have subverted and diverted us (media), they have murdered us (9-11) and used that murder as an excuse to murder millions of others, caused global warming intentionally-they have developed capitalism as a tool to destroy humanity- i write much about the character of the rich- they worship satan- freemasonry- and for money have sold not only themselves, but also our wellbeing. Since thousands of years, gods have enjoyed ruling over and oppressing people-I intend to take down the devil with the people beside me. Satan's ways are deception and oppression.
@@edwardreadletter2182 Furthermore, kings and their obedient armies have oppressed, conquered, enslaved, and oppressed people for centuries, eons. People as a whole, have a good nature. Rich people, considering themselves as gods, want others to be subservient to them, call them "sir" "honorable" "dr" etc..they tell you that they are the experts as they destroy you, place themselves as authority to rule over you and oppress you- live a double-faced life and lie- have different standards for themselves and those that they rule over. Life does not have to be unfair- i dont accept injustice- i will fight against it- i refuse to bend my knee to wicked people. NO MASTERS- NO SLAVES. and coal miners have to live in poverty while performing slave-like hard labor that is dangerous?? i defy that as fair or right- THE PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER!!!
Yeah man I love his reminder about child labor laws, water quality, food inspection and how it relates to the 'let the free market decide' bullshit. That was precisely what happened when we let the market decide. Kids worked 7 days a week with dirt on their face, terrible water quality, people were literally falling into meat grinders and sold as meat, etc. Every possible cut was made in efforts of producing the most profit until we had to intervene because that's what the free market was deciding.
but but VUVUZELA !!!1!
Industrialization was even more brutal in non-capitalist societies. USSR, China, Cambodia, etc. You're a deciever. The capitalist west has always had higher standards than the centrally planned economies of authoritarian states.
@@Paelorian Yet people still have to set up gofundme accounts for essential healthcare in the US or go bankrupt for getting sick. All while Bezos is trying to hit 200 billion by making his workers piss in bottles. 'High standards' lmao
Agreed, the extremes of Capitalism and Socialism are negative. The sweet spot is somewhere in the middle and best determined/acquired through Democratic. accountability.
@@mutualaltruism6658 I hope he makes another billion, that just means the country is working just fine.
Never seen this man before, seems a genuine, intelligent human being.
He genuinely cares about what he’s fighting for.
He ideas were relevant in the 60s and 70s. He’s faded away after his ideas become useless relics. I do think the man means well and sincere
@@chrislong1287 meanning well people have the stupiedest ideas...
You have clearly no idea about economy and history. Stick to eat healthy...
Piotr W I agree, even the worst ideas usually come from good intentions.
Wow, Joe Rogan finally interviewed a dedicated leftist. A serious academic one mind you. Never thought I'd see the day. Yes, must be painful for his regular viewers.
bjarczyk sounds like you’re better than us regular viewers. Thanks for lowering yourself to join us for a while special one.
Don’t argue that the left suppresses free speech and just straw man their views when you won’t even engage their actual beliefs.
Not here to argue, but he’s had SEVERAL hard core leftist on his show. Joe himself is left wing and he will tell you that.
bjarczyk you talking to me?
Im a regular viewer, independent and support these ideas and open to hear ideas of others. I listen to a wide branch of channels, streams, and even conservative pundents. I see people as humans trying to figure out how to make sense of this whole thing and what we can do while we are here. Painful to those that have been met with more cognitive dissonance and confusion but I am equally happy when I can agree with some conservatives and right wing politically identified people. We need to help each other and not tear each other down. And I hope we can have non biased part discussion...it may not happen with the extremely identified right and Left however
NIKE still has kids working 7 days a week in asia!!! For nothing........
So who's problem is that?
@@alfarouqaminufor3892 the capital is the problem. we have been saying this for over a hundred years.
@@rodrigoroa6753 NIKE is a company why do you care so much on how they run there business
That's the problem od the local market. Dont try to make everyone happy.
@@alfarouqaminufor3892 That attitude towards companies is what allows them to not be held accountable for their actions. If they are an American company "that actually stood for Colin Kaepernick's Social awareness cause" then they would treat their workers like human beings instead of modern day slaves. Plus, it should NOT matter where on earth or what country a company is in, they should ALWAYS treat their work with dignity and respect, or a living wage. Only a charlaton would say "why care," about corporate abuse of the people creating the profit for the company.
The man says "we have to listen to our right wing brothers and sisters" and yet the right wingers are still visibly angry in these comments. Tell me, what happened to diversity of thought/opinion? Furthermore, do any of you say the say about your counterparts on the left?
Based solely off of what Dr. Cornel said in this video, I don't understand why there are so many dislikes
"Socialism = fear" Ignorant people that don't listen. They just react to buzz words.
You know why......
Cuz gommunism bad.
@@henryplce2225 Except it WOULD cancel profit and private ownership: to an extent. Swedish and Swiss policies, by definition, cancel profit and private ownership, to an extent.
Evil socialist man bad
1k disklike in a video where a brilliant man speaks nothing but the truth about information readily available to all. Sad state the world and America is in.
J.J.. truly 🤦🏽♂️
J.J. They saw the title, hit dislike and left.
People are too triggered by things that aren't what they already told to believe in
If you think Mr. West is brilliant, you have an issue with determining who is truly intelligent in this world. Read some books maybe?
It’s not the state of America, Joe just has loser fans.
Joe Rogan: statement
Cornell West : whispers in “that’s right”
Nice name bro. I'm gonna try to make human resources
Matthew Brosnan thanks dude
Lol that shit is so welcoming.
This man is WOKE AF! On the TRUTH of America, true intellectual
I think woke is a bad term to use
Love it! Have Dr. Richard Wolff on next.
Yes!!!!!
Hell yes
Then Chris Hedges!
one day
Then Noam Chomsky.
Then Slavoj Žižek.
Love this Guy!!!!! Mr West you are a True King!!!!!!🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Look up Thomas Sowell.
Dr. West
I would say he is a true God.
Joe “I take the political stance of my guest” Rogan
👍👍😀😂😂
He’s a fraud .
So true
99% of people who hate socialism dont know what it is. they only know that they heard it's bad
Mag Rhino Joe's stayed many MANY times he's on the left, and the views he's put forward on the show are just like that. Just because he isn't YOUR idea of a Progressive person doesn't mean he isn't. He wants his guests to talk and explain their views as much as they can, he's not gonna constantly challenge and interject them. Just how he does his podcast.
It warms my heart that Americans think a bit of welfare is socialism
no shit, wealth redistribution is socialism
@@gaymuslimsexorgy7094 no. Jesis.christ man its just called a aocial program. Taxes have always existed man
@@gaymuslimsexorgy7094 ever since.we stopped being.nomadic we pooled our graim together and distributed, becoming.what taxes are
Colby 'Xbox Live' Covington that’s just factually incorrect
@@gaymuslimsexorgy7094 That's not what Socialism is about, you're thinking of State Capitalism or Communism.
You can legit see Joe’s brain getting more wrinkles, you can always tell when he’s extremely interested and respects someone he barely speaks.
Is it just me or does this interview has some ASMR moments?
Leper King Yea for sure lol
It has a bit of POV too. It's beautiful.
Betty Cocker goosebumps
Leper King Dr. West gives me chills with this knowledge bombs.
What is "ASMR"?
The Joe Rogan reddit forum is now censoring Chapo Traphouse fans because their feelings were hurt about this.
as a neutral fence-sitter, chapo traphouse fans are fucking retarded.
Sounds like the cth users are hurting your feelings
@@Jimmy-es8bc As a regular listener I can imagine vocal online supporters being pretty annoying. I mean the hosts of the podcast regularly make fun of their own supporters. But you can pretty much say the same thing about any dedicated online fan base at this point. The most vocal supporters tend to be the worst representatives.
socialism for the rich capitalism for everyone else
I love how the like/dislike ratio is very 50/50 and the top comment is very neutral
Even if you hate socialism, you should at least respect that he is being respectful
I wasn't trying to make any comment on socialism. I just think it's funny how neutral a reaction this got, because usually you expect a political related video to either get mostly support or mostly hate. Also funny how the like/dislike ratio aligns perfectly with the top comment.
Thats the truth about America in general... Both sides are split 50\50 and most people are pretty neutral.
How about that Meuller testimony though? Pure socialist pile of poo poo....
Perfectly balanced ⚖️
Am I the only one who clicked this video for the comments?
Merriam-Webster Dictionary Definition
socialism
noun
so·cial·ism | \ ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm \
Definition of socialism
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Nope
No!
Fuck no, I’m not even listening to the audio
The comments were what I wanted
Bring Richard Wolff on the show!
It's time to have Cornel West back on thee JRE now that he's challenging the political duopoly by running for president in a third party! I can not imagine a better third party candidate. Independents are the biggest voting block in the states. I feel he could really disrupt your corrupt political system.
What an amazing guest! Dr. Cornel West is so intelligent. Please have more guests like this on!
It’s interesting to watch the course Joe has set over the past couple years.
Jordan Peterson: Socialism is a bloody scourge and will never work.
Joe Rogan: I agree.
Cornel West is guest.......
Joe Rogan: democratic socialism has just like, never been done the right way.
Exactly.
I mean Democratic socialism as practiced in Scandinavia is really a form of capitalism with a big welfare state. Tho most people advocating for socialism are dishonest about this
Social democracy exists all over Europe, including Germany
@@thekidnamedcudi8850 'Scandinavia isn't socialist' -> Lets implement their policies then -> 'No, that's socialism'
@@justicedem6455 It's a little more complex than a label. Plus, how well are they doing?
Lots of dislikes but no specific or real disagreements 😂😂
this is the first leftist intellectual to appear on JRE and they don't know what to do with it
@@flicfan416 if richard wolf goes on Joe Rogan, trump loses in 2020
Well the socialist policies they are talking about are NOTHING like the market breaking policies today's socialists are pushing for, so you can't even compare the type of socialism talked about in this clip to today's socialism. That's why people aren't arguing. Also they went on a completely irrelevant tangent about the civilian collateral damage from war? It is typical liberal brainwashing that is America bad socialism good
@@mothurman whats funny about this is that cornell west isnt at odds with the rest of socialists 😂 the brainwashing was done on you to make you think a "market" is something to be protected lol.
mothurman wtf is today’s socialism?
I am voting for the Great Independent U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders
Lol the guy that dont even pay his workers 15 an hour while preaching it, the guy who took tax deduction to pay less taxes while preaching for 50 perce tax rate, the guy who bought a new house and a couple of cars while complaining about the rich buying multiple houses and cars. You talking about that guy?
@@206guy5 I'm voting for Bernie Sanders despite your mindless propaganda that is fake news.
@@sparksthedaytrader9606 Its facts. Sorry to spew that to you. You can search everything I just preached.
@@sparksthedaytrader9606 You are voting for the biggest hypocrite of all time.
Good luck to your day trades btw under Bernie lol
@@206guy5 I'm voting for Bernie Sanders: America's Father.
" i don't believe in hating anybody individually, i hate greed, i hate injustice, i hate white supremacy, i hate anti-jewish prejudice, i hate anti-Palestinian prejudice, i hate patriarchy and so forth but the HUMAN BEINGS were these ideology filter thru are still human beings". - Dr. Cornel West. THIS STATEMENT IS MONUMENTAL. POWERFUL BEYOND MEASURE.
I pray theres a new labor movement to extend the weekend to Monday. We got the children out of the workplace, we got 8 hour days, and a 2 day weekend... why'd we stop there?!?
Why stop at a weekend? Workers should own the means of production. Workers coops are evidence enough that we don't need the bourgeoisie to administrate us.
@@burton5131 yep that whole workers control means of production has always done well👍
@@Blondeguylifts Yup, plenty of examples of co-ops doing well
@@LolDC222 do you get the whole sarcasm in my comment
@@Blondeguylifts I had a hunch, but I just assumed you weren't dumb.
Dr. West is alright. I dont agree,but he's ok. You have to listen to different opinions to sharpen your arguments or to make you change your mind.
FU are you listening to me
Yeah hes one of the left I can learn from. Helps me understand their thinking.
soulsiq 92 yeah of just how brainwashed and un american most of their ideas are😂
@@godzillaking9835 which idea ?
@@waldo9439 the idea that this country was not built on socialism and can stand the test of time with it. Get real. If i recall , i remember when there was the big deal about minorities getting free passes to college with lower test scores than white kids but the white kids weren't accepted. Then they found out most of the ones who got the free gift of going fucking dropped out.
We need to stop looking at things in a dualistic way, with only little expectation. Then we can stop labelling what is politically right or wrong and truly focus on what we can do with room for mistake, then we will learn.
David Simon picked up on this. He talked about how every group from the far left to the far right found justification for their ideology when they watch 'The Wire'. He then went on to say that when he heard people talking about how their one size all ideology was the solution or explanation to everything, he realized that they were pretty much useless in helping things get better.
2mis - or you can base the focus on economics and not a fantasy world where we give up our rights and centralize it to government.
@@paxnorth7304 The Wire is something else friend
@@paxnorth7304 But I will say this, the left has done more to improve the lives of people than anything the right has done.
Andrew Yang said that during his Presidential run - I agree. And, of course, the “right” and “left” have a lot in common. Both sides heavily in favour of universal healthcare, anti-war, tax increases on the rich and so on. But cuz there’s this sports team mentality of my side/your side, people get blinded.
No word is more scary to people than socialism, haha too funny
I guess it's all the suffering and death that comes along with it
Arthur Fonzarelli because it’s all about Vuvuzuela !!
Decades of anti-socialist cold war propaganda will do that
Well if you look at the past...
@@mutualaltruism6658 so true. people are so easily brainwashed/influenced. Starts minute they are born with religion
This guy's a really good speaker.
Didn't realize this would get so much hate from Joe's audience.... What did you guys think was wrong with this message?
For many many years Americans have been told that Socialism is bad. I agree
@@landonic81 seems like socialism fits well into alot of Joes old podcasts with Duncan trussell... Idk how you listen to those and then this one and don't see similar ideas
Waldo - the fact that he romanticized Socialism. It does not matter if you put Democratic in front of it. It is still Socialism! That is how it’s designed. To lure you in with promises of a utopia, but in reality it will be the collapse of our economy. And it will be paid by astronomical taxes, inflation, and food shortages.
@@HippieSkippy100 and capitalism won't fail?
Nick - a basic economics class will debunk Socialism. The nature of Socialism is disguised. It is an enabler for tyranny. That is how it starts, a simple promise whispered into your ear like Dr. West does. Do not be fooled.
Joe "this month I'm gonna be woke about the working class struggle" Rogan
Based & Breadpilled
Or perhaps we're starting to see a shift in Joe's ideals.
@@dainty_af One could only hope
@@AslanW well 7 months later and he endorsed Bernie Sanders...
Cornel West articulates ideas of modern day leftists and dismantles right-wing talking points so fluently while still coming off completely authentic like no one else. I wasn’t alive while MLK was around, but I can only imagine he came from a similar place of love and kinship.
Shawn Hoeft lmao your an idiot
Big Baller brilliant comeback
Gotta love brother West! Very intriguing to listen too. Along with killer Mike! Very intelligent brothers!
Not necessarily
Whether you agree with him or not,Dr. West is a brilliant scholar,who forces people to think outside of their comfort zone on topics that affect us all.
"Democratic accountability." Powerful.
Y'all remember Card's book Ender's Game?
Glad for this discussion.
Wait why are they saying it's never been implemented correctly... It's working pretty damn well in Scandinavia...Ok go ahead and say they're more capitalist than socialist.... Meanwhile they have universal healthcare and when I say I want universal healthcare in America you call me a socialist.
Scandinavia is Awesome!!! Made an American like me want to move there for good.
South Dakota is bigger than the Scandinavians countries
Let that sink in
Scandinavia is a social democracy, not democratic socialism. Scandinavia's economy is freer even than the US's.
@@artemiasalina1860 Kind of a blanket statement. Unions have much more power in most Scandinavian countries. Saying an entire economy is "freer" than another is just a bit reductionist imo.
@@davidc7450 I'm talking about laws restricting free markets, not voluntary associations of workers.
Dr. Cornel West is a man I strive to emulate. His courage is beyond the strongest warrior. His intelligence is unattainable to the most educated professor. His compassion is on the level of a mother caring for her newborn. And to me his greatest attribute is his insight which is more profound than the most powerful clairvoyant.
Cornel West is f’n fire. Sorry team, you’ll have to put up with weekends because some poor SOB had to go and fight capital for it.
Aaron Shaw Don’t forget bread lines, gulags, revolutionary firing squads bc some poor farmer fought hard for that too... wait that’s socialism. Growing middles classes are evil!
@@bobbycalifornia7077 That's revolutionary totalitarian socialism, not social democracy or democratic socialism. I get the feeling you think every type of socialism is some form of a totalitarian dictatorship.
Aslan And the point being that working without weekends is the capitalist version of that. Not a natural feature. Also, weekends are not a feature of socialism and disingenuous to say so. Like most what is being discussed here. Democratic socialism is as destructive as the socialism that I just described and you know it.
@@bobbycalifornia7077 "Democratic socialism is just as bad as socialism"
Way to ensure complete loss of credibility.
Aslan Look who’s talking. Better yet look at Bernie’s latest mess. Imagine that on a national level... but that’s not implemented right? It never is right? It never will be right? No credibility there.
“Reading comments on TH-cam has changed my mind”. Said no one ever.
Adam Madrigal you know what I never looked at it like that. You’re absolutely right. Thanks.
Not everybody reading TH-cam comments has their mind maid up that it needs chaging.
Beautifully stated, Dr. West.
Cornell west never disappoints. Such an awesome guy🤗🙌
We are not a democracy we are a constitutional republic. That is how little he knows....
We are a oligarchy but if that helps you sleep at night.
@@davidescobar3368 oo sick burn!
He knows way more than you.
Travis Guy Republicans violate the constitution any way they can. Trump loves doing it. Republicans let him get away with it cause they're a bunch of cowards
@@thoughtsofaveteran agreed.
Richard Wolff .... Noam Chomsky would be the nail in the coffin .. I love this!!!
yes and yes please
Genius of a man.
Good stuff here. I also think it should be pointed out that things like Medicare for all are forms of socialism that are implemented around the world with success. Some examples of successful socialism are places like Denmark, Sweden, and Norway. Another example of it is right here in America. They mentioned the fire department and police, but there is also socialism for the rich and corporations. Bernie Sanders brought this up recently. Socialism is seen as bad by establishment and the mainstream until it is used for the wealth. Then they love it.
Socialism can get messy on the scale of the United States. Those countries are tiny in comparison. Denmark is comparable to the population of maryland. It can be easier to manage. California still screws up their socialist policies. I'm not saying it couldn't work. Denmark and those other countries work because they have a lot of efforts to support a free market and not prevent a lot of natural capitalist policies. PragerU made a video about denmark being a socialist country, one thing people overlook is that after they adopted a more socialist government, they had an economic crisis until they managed to sort it all out years after, there was even a tax protester party that was created because of their change to socialism. They support free market and individual property rights and are easy places to open a business. All themes of capitalism, hopefully without the crony capitalism. They just have higher taxes and social programs like healthcare, because they make a lot of money. They're even backing out of retirement programs to give that power back to the individuals as we all can see throughout the world how bad that's going to end up. Hopefully it works. Here's the video if you're curious. th-cam.com/video/tzEPKrHalaY/w-d-xo.html
Socialism can get messy on the scale of the United States. Those countries are tiny in comparison. Denmark is comparable to the population of maryland. It can be easier to manage. California still screws up their socialist policies. I'm not saying it couldn't work. Denmark and those other countries work because they have a lot of efforts to support a free market and not prevent a lot of natural capitalist policies. PragerU made a video about denmark being a socialist country, one thing people overlook is that after they adopted a more socialist government, they had an economic crisis until they managed to sort it all out years after, there was even a tax protester party that was created because of their change to socialism. They support free market and individual property rights and are easy places to open a business. All themes of capitalism, hopefully without the crony capitalism. They just have higher taxes and social programs like healthcare, because they make a lot of money. They're even backing out of retirement programs to give that power back to the individuals as we all can see throughout the world how bad that's going to end up. Hopefully it works. Here's the video if you're curious. th-cam.com/video/tzEPKrHalaY/w-d-xo.html
@Astro naut Not in America. Bernie and AOC are social democrats and the right and commenters here call them "socialist" all the time. Some people even think Nazism and universal healthcare are related because of the word "socialist". The same word can mean all kinds of things (or nothing at all) depending on usage and context. Language is messy, meaning is what matters. Low-IQ people can't grasp this basic concept.
so instead we have a generation of super lazy kids.. why doesn't Joe ask him about all the big business buying off both parties. that's what we are really sick of
He indirectly talked about it close to the end, but he won't say it directly because he risks his entire support base alienating him. Between the lines
Symptom of having a flawed two party system
Stfu grandpa every generation said the next was lazy yet here we are
@Altaf Kalam I have family in scandavia and have visited and they aren't hard working people at all. The system is setup to penalize you harshly if you make to much money so many don't even try to excel.
canofrockstar you should look up his work. He is constantly critical of this very thing in a very straightforward and very public way. It’s his reason for supporting Bernie as publicly and frequently as he does.
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Underrated comment of the year.
You've forgotten how young the United States is as a governed country compared to other countries in the world. Europe and Asia has been well established way long before.
As a governed country? Well as a sustained current country America is quite old compared to most. Further, Europe and Asia are obviously not countries. But Russia, Germany and Japan are and these current countries are incredibly young as current countries.
Unfortunately, the majority of Joe's audience isn't ready for truthful, intelligent discussion on socialist policies. They still mistakenly conflate socialism with authoritarianism. Maybe in another 20 years some of them will get it. Joe's trying to help educate his viewers, and they resent it lol! Great point in here btw, "what is inherited wealth, if not a free ride?" Not to mention the bloated military budget, which no one can speak against, without drawing the ire of the military industrial complex, and their mouthpieces.
But the weird thing is they like Trump and he is a fake authoritarian I don't get it they're like the most contradictive people and I agree they're not ready for this their brain simply just can't handle it
To have 500 military bases around the world is ridiculous and unethical!!! Why not just have one military base for every continent???? Imagine what we could do with that money not stupidly spent on militarism???? But we’re the US of A 😔
I agree our military footprint is way too big. However, our military spending is 1/16 of the discretionary budget. That is the budget that has to be approved by appropriation bills. The discretionary budget is 37%of total government spending. The other almost 80% of spending is on auto pilot. Medicare/Medicare, entitlement programs and debt service. We spend way more on entitlement programs to poor people. This is why we need to peel off the illegals from government assistance so we can take care of Americans first and deliver better services to our people.
Jay Dell Saving what now?
el Entrada 1 A whole lot of bs but cool story bro. But we definitely need to get rid of the middle man healthcare insurance industry to reduce healthcare spending.
@@elentrada1600 what? We use more money on our military than the next 10 countries combined. One of trump's budget increases could have paid for tuition free college alone. We spend way to much on the military
Dr. Cornell West is a great guy, I have listened to him for decades in interviews on TV and such. He has a huge heart and a great conception of justice as a philosopher. He is not a great intellect or big brain though. I have heard him say things that shows he does not really understand the tax system or how business works ... but he is correct on most things in principle.
I’m going to go back and get my masters and doctorate someday. I’m going to teach. And Doctor Brother West is why. The definition of love and humanity
I find it funny that people trash socialist and communists like they didn't fight for worker and civil rights.
Their views of socialism is mixed with the American ideology.
Socialists plays on your insecurities of failure.
Capitalists want to see your true potential.
Socialists want you to submit to the collective.
Capitalists understand the true nature of freedom.
Yes much freedom when corporations overpice healthcare and college tuition and buy out our government, while paying you as little as possible to get away with
Apparently you didn't listen!
nah
There is nothing stopping you from becoming a doctor, and starting your own healthcare co-op.
define socialism?
Socialists care about helping the poor.
Capitalists play on the sham that this country works for everyone.
Socialists wanna make sure everyone in this country had a chance to succeed and no one is left behind.
Capitalism is why billionaires and massive corporations are able to control our politics, and avoid their taxes with no punishment. Billionaire shouldn't exist
"In the US we have socialism for the rich and a rugged individualism for everyone else." - MLK
I've never understood why the US doesn't want socialised medicine. The NHS isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but on average we pay just over half what the americans do and we live 2 years longer.
yes its strange to hear Americans mock a system that works better than theirs for anyone who isn't rich.
Why all the downvotes? Rogan rarely invites academics with leftist/socialist sympathies. I thought Rogan fans were open minded to different views.
It's nice to see more variety. Dr. West made some good points there.
They're open-minded when they're in an echo-chamber. I mean literally the first two comments I saw on Joe's initial video was how he now needed to bring on a black conservative intellectual like Thomas Sowell or Larry Elder "because it's only right." LMAO
They're fucking conservatives, they like only their bubble protected, Rogan on the other hand is a center right liberal, which is why he is more open in talking to various people on the right and left.
I think Joe's ability to be cordial to everyone's views is what makes him fantastic. Otherwise everything would degrade into a debate/argument....and we wouldn't get to see people for who they are!.... and have a go in the comments sections! :)
Cornell west gets better the older I get. As compared to Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Adam Carolla etc who's takes are dumber and dumber the older I get
My favorite part about these videos is that there is always those conservatives who see it and there immediately thought process is "Well I have to mention Thomas Sowell because he's a conservative black man who hates socialism and adores capitalism, so its a great refutation because Cornel West is a progressive black man who loves socialism." It's rather embarrassing tbh.
You are the one bringing race into this conversation.
@@Prof.Maxwell No. I’m calling it like I see it. Simply look through the comments. I don’t see any other conservative capitalist economists being brought up in the comments section except for Thomas Sowell. Connect the dots. It’s not a huge leap unless you are entirely naive.
@@Prof.Maxwell also, I grew up and still live in Oklahoma. This is how conservatives think. Same idiots who think that being a fan of black actors and rap music means you can’t be racist.
@@Prof.Maxwell also, Cornel West is black, as is Thomas Sowell. So I’m not bringing up race. Merely acknowledging it already exists in this. Nice try though.
@@jl8410 Again, you are the one who chose to talk about race, most people mention Thomas Sowell because he is the BEST conservative / Libertarian social thinker of the past four decades not just within blacks, but across America as a whole. It's interesting that when conversations are about ideologies, race still has to be a talking point. And I have been scrolling through the comments and you are literally the first person I saw who mentions race.
Kinda hard to ‘get beyond an -ism’ when you have to climb over 200 million dead bodies
gabethedizzle you don't want to talk about the hundreds of millions that have died from causes do to capitalism all over the world yet you reactionaries want to throw out inflated numbers from cold war propoganda
Capitalism?
What do social programs have to do with 200 million dead bodies? I dont see how universal healthcare murders people. I think it’s a mistake to tie authoritarian regimes with communist policies to the application of social programs to a mixed economy, which the US already does, just not to the degree of Europe and other countries
Troy Benson You don't think capitalism has its own host of dead bodies? How delusional can you be
@Brendan T Very well said Brendan!
Joe Rogan ought to watch, listen and think about this conversation all over again.
Dr west currently running for president. Imagine him voicing these opinions on a debate stage
Hard to believe so many people dislike child labor laws.
If there’s a better communicator of Left ideals than Mr West, I’ve never heard of them
First time hearing of this guy, but I like him. Finally, a reasonable left-wing person that you can have an intelligent conversation with
What a lovely and brilliant soul of a man.
A strange way to say idiot...
Dr. Cornel West: I wish one day our paths will cross, so I could just shake your hand and say: Thank you!
Be great to get Thomas Sowell on here.
everyone scrambling to get the Good Black Guy on JRE after Dr. West shattered their delusions about the socialist bogeyman
@@flicfan416 he talked abt things that felt right not what is based on reality, Sowell VS West showdown would be good tho
Sowell isn't all he's cracked up to being, and you'd regret it immediately.
@@flicfan416 No it's not that. People just don't want you calling them racist for not having a black guy on. And you know this very well.
@@Mister006 ones an economist and the other is a philosopher, be doesn't rely on logic, science or math. You can be a bad philosopher as long as you market your ideas well
Thanks Joe and Dr Cornel for talking about subjects like this!
I watch Dr. West whenever I can and Joe does a great interview.
Love Prof. West and the knowledge he brings to a conversation
You know you got a conservative audience when they're downing Cornell West.
Oh yes. Most probably didn't even watch the whole video, they just immediately hit the dislike
@@mike70377 Yeah, watched the whole thing, didn't see much problem in it, most of it was common sense to me.
Since when is government been known to be moral?
dropped your pocket since the Reich !!!!!!!
Shit I always forget about that one. My minds been changed from now on I'll be moral compass will be guided by the government, what could go wrong?
@@droppedyourpocket1749 The issue is that our government doesn't represent the people. It represents the corps and rich that pay them.
Since when are corporations known to be moral?
@@idn most goverents do so.
Joe "Whichever way the wind blows" Rogan
@@JazzfireflyNZ Yeah, but there are certain ideas witch he will make a clear opinion why he doesn't like it. Yet when those same ideas are talked about with a particular guest who might be in favor for those ideas. joe doesn't disagree or challenge, yet almost softly agrees with the person. We have seen time and time again.
Although he will politely call out people like Candace Owens if they are pushing something BS
Why the hell is the full video private???
We are a constitutional republic
@David Ferguson you mean like because it's in their name or have you actually sat down to understand their government structure, specially when compared to the US?
Good one Dave
NPC talking point
Why am I not surprised that Cornel West would have more dislikes than likes here lol
Shows the intellect of many of the viewers
So many dense right wingers watch Rogan.
@@henryplce2225 do you even know the meaning of the word socialist?
I'm a property developer and own a few businesses
By definition it is impossible for me to be a socialist. Believing in. a fairer society does not mean socialism, once again it is embarrassing how ignorant the average American is.
Sanj . Yours is the comment of an idiot.
@@httr94 you mean SJWs lefties
Joe Rogan fanboys are SJW soyboys
Reminds me of the old podcasts, Cornel is a breath of fresh air compared to the right wing puppets propped up by the billionaire class like the guests Joe has had on in recent years, finally a real intellectual who actually cares about the people!
I’ve gotta a soft spot for this guy... I disagree with a lot... but his heart is right