Nothing but respect for showing your faults, a lot of shops would have just not included that and moved forward. Goes to show anyone including a seasoned tech/tuner can make mistakes and learn and grow! Rock on boys keep up the awesome content!
I totally feel your pain with the gas situation in Nova Scotia. My RS3 was pulling -6 degrees timing all the way to red line on the stock tune. I've manage to pull clean logs with Unitronic st1 tune now with about ~10% ethanol blend every fill........however this means I have to live with a 55 gallon drum of ethanol in my garage. Shell is starting to roll out 91 e10 and 93 e10 out west, so maybe theres hope for us all.
Same deal, recently had a TTRS on the rollers even with stock tune it was hating our fuel. Ethanol will definitely help, but it's not that practical for most around here so we're doing a proper WM setup.
@@COMotorsports the ethanol has definitely been a pain in my side and isnt any where as economical as a WM setup. I am currently out west until the spring, but I will definitely give you guys a shout when I am back in NS about a WM setup as it does seem to make the most sense.
Great numbers, PERIOD. Love that color, and you can't go wrong with RPF-1's. I've never seen a car that they don't look the part on honestly. Those PCV's are junk to begin with so good call on swapping that thing outta there. Nice thing is the owner can sell the IS-38 to recoup some money, to someone who wants to upgrade their stock compressor. There is a reason Autotech is one of the original vendors from back in the day, still going strong, and they make a good product. The fault wasn't on their end, frankly it could've happened to anybody. Just proof positive how important cleanliness is when working on fuel systems, (especially D.I. cars,) and internal engine parts. BFI FTW. Another fantastic tuner who develops their parts based on real world experience on track.
Man, this R is set up perfect. I wish I bought one pre-Covid. I hope prices settle down at some point. Oem catback is the way to go too. This sounds really good. I hate how some of these cars sound with full exhaust setups!
This is nice I made 416 hp 395 torque on 93 stock sensors stock fuel pumps hpfp lpfp and with a hybrid is38 so for mod for mod these numbers are accurate also my dyno run was on a dynojet... love the channel ! Peace
Solid power figures for Catpiss 91 octane! Upgrading to the EQT Sensor Package and some more boost it there should be a little bit more left in it. Great work Dave!
it's good to see a real mechanic dealing with real life issues and sharing the resolutions! thanks for the content, I'm planning on doing this exact same setup on my R, did you not have to do a LPFP upgrade? and are those to stock injectors? there is 93 pump where I'm at and I'm starting to see a bit more E85, goals are my goals are 500 to the wheels, does that sound about right going this route?
More like tuner, fabricator who can turn wrenches. Lol yes this is stock injectors, stock lpfp. If you're running E then you can skip the hpfp and just do MPI and lpfp.
@@pheonixfps9248 I believe the is38 is pushing 277awkw on e85 tune yes but I can't see it doing 0-100km in 2.3seconds I would love to believe so please do show me
I'm kinda curious how you dyno Rs on FWD dynos, wouldn't Haldex be sending power to the rear wheels? Also, wouldn't there be a slight HP loss due to the added AWD bits when the car is actually driving? Just curious, thats all. Thanks!
The stock map sensor is maxed out. Upgrading map sensors gives the agility to turn the boost up a bit more. Note: this is not just a drop in option, the tune needs to be configured for the different map sensors.
I'm curious as to how the Vortex XL is getting full torque around 3500 rpm while a couple months ago, the R with the standard Vortex took until 3750 to reach full torque?
It was intentional. if you look at the baseline on the STD Vortex at 15:25 in the other video you will see it made 320WTQ at 3000rpm. The XL here is making 280WTQ at 3000rpm.
@@dirk5950 not sure what you mean by "it was intentional". I'll try and clarify, when comparing 5th gear XL runs it spools the same compared to the STD runs which were done in 4th gear. The increased load on engine in 5th helps it spool and is the same reason why it makes way more torque in those runs. I looked this evening, when comparing the dyno runs between the STD and XL, both in 4th gear the XL spools 4-500rpm later.
@@COMotorsports Ahh, they were different gears. Thought Ed did it intentionally so as not to slam torque at it down low. Why not do all Rs in 5th? Why was the other in 4th?
What symptoms did u see with the car that prompted u to pull off the HPFP and check for debris ? I’d love to know what the car ends up acting like when it’s got a HPFP with debris in it
@@COMotorsports so u would experience fuel cuts/power cuts that would interrupt you running through the revs ? Did u see any of the fuel trim numbers even it happened or the AFR ?
EQT sells their own custom 5 bar tamp sensor and a bosh 4 bar sensor to replace the one in the charge pipe for around $250. I can’t remember the exact price but I just got mine yesterday
I'm about to do pretty much this exact setup. Would the sensor upgrades require an MPI setup or would the HPFP provide enough fueling to take advantage of them?
I thought I had replied to this but maybe not. It's lazier but we weren't trying to spool it hard to help keep it alive. So it would so better than what's on these dyno sheets. Also the XL taps out around 550whp so this would have more on it.
Great vid! No 94 out there? I’m tuning my XL on PetroCanada 94 here in Quebec. Would get some more juice out of that lol. Sensors a must to run more boost, too. Stock intercooler?
Doing what exactly? If you mean turbo upgrade, we've done lots of is20s on 1.8ts but have yet to do is38s. However I know those are out there, I just haven't done one yet.
Simple, although we are a pro tuner through COBB we live in a small demographic and the monthly fees to have access to the tuning suite outweighs the cost of simply using another proven service. So there's no need of us having the additional headaches, and expense when we can just as easily use something we know works.
Great turbos. Unprofessional owner. Was looking forward to going EQT Vortex XL but after reading the way Ed speaks (online) to existing and potential future customers I decided to spend my money elsewhere. 🤷🏾♂️
Interesting... I'm in the EQT FB group and not heard or seen anything to make me choose a different platform. I actually just purchased a Vortex Standard during their boost sale.
What do you mean? Ed is a great guy. He doesn't take shit too seriously but you can tell he has a genuine care for his business, his customers and getting the most power put of VAG cars safely.
@@805GPD blown engines? What are you on about bruv? EQT's OTS tunes are safe, I've had mine for over 50k miles and they weren't easy miles either. You only run into trouble when you do custom tuning. Ed will throw as much timing in as you tell him to, but he knows whats safe and whats not. He'll tell you. If you blow your engine because you say "FUCKIN FULL SEND BROTHER GIVE HER ALL THE TIMING SHES BLOODY GOT YEEEEEEEEE" then thats on you.
Nothing but respect for showing your faults, a lot of shops would have just not included that and moved forward. Goes to show anyone including a seasoned tech/tuner can make mistakes and learn and grow! Rock on boys keep up the awesome content!
How to chuck away $400usd in 10 mins flat. :( Appreciate the comments.
MK7 R's look so damn good in my opinion. Been on the fence for awhile but might pull the trigger one of these days...
Car I recommend to folks the most. Great cars.
Billy Corgan tunes VW's now?!?!? Awesome. Just messing with you man. Love your content.
No I'm likely better at tuning cars them him...but also a lot poorer.
@@COMotorsports Hahaha nice!
Watching you tune vs Brent from pfi and the rev limit stuff is so much more tame with you!
Not sure I follow.
I totally feel your pain with the gas situation in Nova Scotia. My RS3 was pulling -6 degrees timing all the way to red line on the stock tune. I've manage to pull clean logs with Unitronic st1 tune now with about ~10% ethanol blend every fill........however this means I have to live with a 55 gallon drum of ethanol in my garage. Shell is starting to roll out 91 e10 and 93 e10 out west, so maybe theres hope for us all.
Same deal, recently had a TTRS on the rollers even with stock tune it was hating our fuel. Ethanol will definitely help, but it's not that practical for most around here so we're doing a proper WM setup.
@@COMotorsports the ethanol has definitely been a pain in my side and isnt any where as economical as a WM setup.
I am currently out west until the spring, but I will definitely give you guys a shout when I am back in NS about a WM setup as it does seem to make the most sense.
@@AHigherPerspective No problem, sounds good.
Great numbers, PERIOD. Love that color, and you can't go wrong with RPF-1's. I've never seen a car that they don't look the part on honestly. Those PCV's are junk to begin with so good call on swapping that thing outta there. Nice thing is the owner can sell the IS-38 to recoup some money, to someone who wants to upgrade their stock compressor. There is a reason Autotech is one of the original vendors from back in the day, still going strong, and they make a good product. The fault wasn't on their end, frankly it could've happened to anybody. Just proof positive how important cleanliness is when working on fuel systems, (especially D.I. cars,) and internal engine parts. BFI FTW. Another fantastic tuner who develops their parts based on real world experience on track.
My favorite go to wheel that looks good on absolutely anything are BBS LMs.
Man, this R is set up perfect. I wish I bought one pre-Covid. I hope prices settle down at some point.
Oem catback is the way to go too. This sounds really good. I hate how some of these cars sound with full exhaust setups!
Depends on the exhaust IMO but I get what you're saying.
I really need to get my tdi back in there for the stage 2 malone!
This is nice I made 416 hp 395 torque on 93 stock sensors stock fuel pumps hpfp lpfp and with a hybrid is38 so for mod for mod these numbers are accurate also my dyno run was on a dynojet... love the channel ! Peace
Much appreciated. 👍
Whats you modlist ? And can this be achieved on mk7 gti
@@twinsandboost191 peep my video it’s on my page
Another awesome vid. Keep it coming VW/Audi gang!
Appreciate it. We're trying.
Solid power figures for Catpiss 91 octane!
Upgrading to the EQT Sensor Package and some more boost it there should be a little bit more left in it.
Great work Dave!
XOX
I’ll probably go this route with my nearly identical mk7r!
Good choice.
ben is a capable camera operator!
"capable"
Awesome video guys. Kinda wish i could bring my r32 to you but on my way to TX.
it's good to see a real mechanic dealing with real life issues and sharing the resolutions! thanks for the content, I'm planning on doing this exact same setup on my R, did you not have to do a LPFP upgrade? and are those to stock injectors? there is 93 pump where I'm at and I'm starting to see a bit more E85, goals are my goals are 500 to the wheels, does that sound about right going this route?
More like tuner, fabricator who can turn wrenches. Lol yes this is stock injectors, stock lpfp. If you're running E then you can skip the hpfp and just do MPI and lpfp.
Good stuff. Sucks about the HPFP getting damaged.
It does, but things happen.
Cool 7R 🤙
Hey mate, here is Australia, we have an r tuned on e85 that makes 277awkw, 0-100kmph is done is 2.3 seconds.
ooh f### off that's a load of BS
@@alexandermetsios6462 mighty car mods fool, go look.
@@pheonixfps9248 I believe the is38 is pushing 277awkw on e85 tune yes but I can't see it doing 0-100km in 2.3seconds I would love to believe so please do show me
@@alexandermetsios6462 go and watch mighty car mods videos.
Sick looking car! Is all that smoke during the dyno runs normal? Thinking of going with EQT on my mk7 gti sport
Bad PCV, that's fixed.
Wonder if they will ever make off the shelf tunes for vortex turbos. A lot of cars have the same setup. Mpi, lpfp, fbos. Or hpfp, fbo’s. Etc
They easily could. They'd just be a little less power then the standard custom tune just for safety.
I'm kinda curious how you dyno Rs on FWD dynos, wouldn't Haldex be sending power to the rear wheels? Also, wouldn't there be a slight HP loss due to the added AWD bits when the car is actually driving? Just curious, thats all. Thanks!
The Mk 7's and Mk 7.5's have a dyno mode you can put the car in, that and they disconnect the haldex controller so it's FWD.
Watch this video we did. th-cam.com/video/IzCt58E_Wjc/w-d-xo.html
Are you seeing any timing corrections with the 91? Or EQT kept it close to zero?
Still a little bit, but timing is conservative so not much.
To achiev 30 more hp which sensor is going to change？The map sensor on the intake manifold?
The stock map sensor is maxed out. Upgrading map sensors gives the agility to turn the boost up a bit more. Note: this is not just a drop in option, the tune needs to be configured for the different map sensors.
Good stuff, but be careful with giving out too much details because the epa may be taking notes
Looks like they were, with what happened to cobb
I'm curious as to how the Vortex XL is getting full torque around 3500 rpm while a couple months ago, the R with the standard Vortex took until 3750 to reach full torque?
No the XL is about 4-500rpm lazier when comparing 4th gear to 4th gear.
It was intentional. if you look at the baseline on the STD Vortex at 15:25 in the other video you will see it made 320WTQ at 3000rpm. The XL here is making 280WTQ at 3000rpm.
@@dirk5950 not sure what you mean by "it was intentional". I'll try and clarify, when comparing 5th gear XL runs it spools the same compared to the STD runs which were done in 4th gear. The increased load on engine in 5th helps it spool and is the same reason why it makes way more torque in those runs. I looked this evening, when comparing the dyno runs between the STD and XL, both in 4th gear the XL spools 4-500rpm later.
@@COMotorsports Ahh, they were different gears. Thought Ed did it intentionally so as not to slam torque at it down low. Why not do all Rs in 5th? Why was the other in 4th?
@@dirk5950 STD was a manual car, XL DSG. 😉
That’s a lot of smoke at 10:30
What route would you go to prevent that?
Replace the PCV, which has since been done.
What symptoms did u see with the car that prompted u to pull off the HPFP and check for debris ?
I’d love to know what the car ends up acting like when it’s got a HPFP with debris in it
It won't r3v completely through the Rev range as power cuts out.
@@COMotorsports so u would experience fuel cuts/power cuts that would interrupt you running through the revs ?
Did u see any of the fuel trim numbers even it happened or the AFR ?
@@ghostbuster187 yes fuel pressure clearly drops of as well. But before even looking at logs you can feel it physically in the car.
I gotta know, what are the specs of those RPF-1's? 18x9 et35 we think?
Nice modifications!
The RPF1 is 18inch with 9J et35?
yes
Do you need a LPFP to run this turbo on 93? And what sensors did Ed recommend? Thanks
HPFP is fine, we're referring to the map sensors. We were limited to 29psi on stock sensors.
EQT sells their own custom 5 bar tamp sensor and a bosh 4 bar sensor to replace the one in the charge pipe for around $250. I can’t remember the exact price but I just got mine yesterday
@@mk7t472 so you got both sensors and running pump gas?
This is insane my tuner even recommended lpfp , that the hpfp just doesn’t supply enough fueling could you explain why the hpfp is enough ?
@@mk7t472 same here bro
What type of problem or symtoms show when you found the HPFP problem and what is the proper fuel presure?
I just got the new Garret Gt2260s turbo with all the support mods but when i try to go over 15 pound of boost the car just cut the power.
It drops fuel pressure
I'm about to do pretty much this exact setup. Would the sensor upgrades require an MPI setup or would the HPFP provide enough fueling to take advantage of them?
This car has been back, and has upgraded sensors, and just HPFP.
@@COMotorsports new numbers? Is a video up on it?
@@mbrishke no didn't make much in the difference. I think around ~12whp.
How did the turbo spool vs the vortex xl
I thought I had replied to this but maybe not. It's lazier but we weren't trying to spool it hard to help keep it alive. So it would so better than what's on these dyno sheets. Also the XL taps out around 550whp so this would have more on it.
what year model is this r
16 or 17, don't remember exactly.
So what you're saying is that my B8.5 is more than capable of over 400hp on 93 octane...
Different engine, so nothing applies here.
Great vid! No 94 out there? I’m tuning my XL on PetroCanada 94 here in Quebec. Would get some more juice out of that lol. Sensors a must to run more boost, too. Stock intercooler?
We only have 91oct here.
Do you think it would be worth doing this on a mk7 1.8t?
Doing what exactly? If you mean turbo upgrade, we've done lots of is20s on 1.8ts but have yet to do is38s. However I know those are out there, I just haven't done one yet.
@@COMotorsports yes upgrading the turbo. I did a is20 swap and I'm searching for more power.
What would be the difference in power with 94 oct you reckon?
There would be more. :)
How do you swap it from awd to fwd on the dyno? Because all golf r’s are awd right?
Watch this video th-cam.com/video/IzCt58E_Wjc/w-d-xo.html
Okay okay
Aren't you a tuner? Why use the services of another tuner in your own shop?
Simple, although we are a pro tuner through COBB we live in a small demographic and the monthly fees to have access to the tuning suite outweighs the cost of simply using another proven service. So there's no need of us having the additional headaches, and expense when we can just as easily use something we know works.
TTV5 much better platform
Very cool, although I’ve heard the owner of this car is a tool
Hey miss u
Great turbos. Unprofessional owner. Was looking forward to going EQT Vortex XL but after reading the way Ed speaks (online) to existing and potential future customers I decided to spend my money elsewhere. 🤷🏾♂️
What did you end up seeing?
Interesting... I'm in the EQT FB group and not heard or seen anything to make me choose a different platform. I actually just purchased a Vortex Standard during their boost sale.
What do you mean? Ed is a great guy. He doesn't take shit too seriously but you can tell he has a genuine care for his business, his customers and getting the most power put of VAG cars safely.
I agree Ed is very condescending. His head is bigger than the go fund me account he opened for the blown motors
@@805GPD blown engines? What are you on about bruv? EQT's OTS tunes are safe, I've had mine for over 50k miles and they weren't easy miles either. You only run into trouble when you do custom tuning. Ed will throw as much timing in as you tell him to, but he knows whats safe and whats not. He'll tell you. If you blow your engine because you say "FUCKIN FULL SEND BROTHER GIVE HER ALL THE TIMING SHES BLOODY GOT YEEEEEEEEE" then thats on you.