That's what happens when you are a ritualistic nightmare king that consumes fire. You get a voice that sounds like you smoke thirty packs a day while speaking in tongues.
NKG is easily one of my favorite bosses, alongside with Mantis Lords. His battle really feels like a dance. I problably tried around 70 times until a finally managed to beat this beast. But I didn't mind dying this much, his theme is just SO GOOD.
I really like the Mantis Lords, it's all based on timing and memory, and you feel like you really win after beating them unlike other boss fights, they even fricken bow. NKG is kinda the same.
When I was trying to beat the Pure Vessel, every time I would lose through what I thought was “bullshit” I would beat NKG just to make myself feel good again
I had the, And I do mean THE stupidest method of dealing with the pufferfish fireball things cause I couldn’t dodge it normally. I would double jump, and then pogo on top of him. For the entire attack, all 3 times. Yeah, I don’t know how I won myself.
I got so angry at NKG back when I first started fighting him but slowly i just kind of grew to enjoy the deadly dance. He’s such a great boss if you can get past the exasperation of losing and just kind of enjoy it.
For every boss that gives me trouble, I go full health build with Joni's Blessing and other health charms. That forces me to focus on dodging and learning attack patterns instead of trying to heal. And with 22 masks you can take a lot of damage before dying, which gives you a lot of time on every attemp to just observe the boss and get familiar with everything he does.
Item #: SCP-6001 Object Class: Keter Description: Subject appears to be a slender, black, slightly-humanoid figure wearing a large, pointed cape. DNA-Analysis shows that the subject is related to the Calyptra Thalictri (Vampire Moth) species. Subject is capable of temporal relocation and must be contained by at least two (2) Scranton Reality Anchors at all times. Level 3 security clearance or higher is required to interact with the subject along with permission from the local site-director. On rare occasions on-site personel may report dreaming of a red subject similar in appearance to SCP-6001. Any on-site personnel reported dreaming about this subject are to be quarantined, questioned, given Class-A amnestics, relocated, and replaced by more suitable personnel. (I felt this deserved to be a comment when I thought it up)
When you beat NKG but still have Devine in your village after her storyline with the charms she says something like now I can catch up to master to me meaning that grimm is still out there performing the ritual somewhere else, the grimm child is just another vessel for the nightmare heart.
Pure Vessel still feels like Nightmare King Grimm on crack because he has more attacks... PV also feels quicker than NKG, might just be me tho. Either way, these two bosses are really hard. Patterns can be gotten is just still really flipping hard. PV also feels harder in this sense, NKG feels like he has a much bigger down time between each attacks so you do get a brief moment to regroup if you just screwed up and started panicking. PV is like no I am going to keep going at your face most of the time. AR is another story tho, that is just pure hell. One simply does not dodge 3 attacks at the same time... Nor does one simply dodge mach 5 homing light balls of death. Also BS last phase of luminus infini is just not cool.
The reason I beat him the first time was finding out I can poggo on Grimm's head when he puffs up (got hit once or twice while trying, but otherwise, he never hits you if you're directly above him with the flames).
Well done and that is true. I know I had footage of me doing that but I can't remember if I included it here. It is certainly another great way to avoid the Pufferfish Attack, especially if we can double jump up there as soon as NKG appears because then we avoid the fireballs entirely. :)
I've beaten Cuphead before trying Hollow Knight, and I'm glad I did, because that game certainly helped me get good at dodging attacks like those normally. And enhanced my reaction time.
Versus enemies like Hornet and Grimm, I always end up going with the mobility-boosting charms (Sprintmaster, Dashmaster, Sharp Shadow) both to increase my ability to chase down and get hits in, and for the visual appeal of both combatants moving at blinding speed while darting at each other.
@@armanyusaf5019 You dont need to deal with Grimm for getting the Hunter's Mark. Only monsters and bosses from the original game are required. So its just the question, which charm you want in the end.
This fight took me so, so many nights of endless dying to get right, but it's one of my favorite boss fights ever. There's a rhythm to it and once you get into that rhythm, it's like some crazy state of zen.
After over 30 tries, I finally managed to beat him. I was tempted to just go the easy way out and get the song charm (I don't know what it's called), but even though i'll never use the grimchild, the satisfaction I got from beating the boss was definitely the biggest reward of all.
Whoa. I did not notice that. I thought I only counted 4. That's really interesting Shade. *goes back and stares at skitter frames* Holy crap. 5 legs. *mind blown*
Yeah. Probably. That or just to make him look bigger overall and therefore, more imposing. :) Either way, I think they may have gone overboard with the red. xD
I love the knight height measurment and I am going to you use it whenever I can :D I never thought about dashing through him as he is doing his pufferfish attack. Pitty I never found the guy in the Hallownest but I'm happy with the ending I got; thank you for your videos throughout the year and keep up the good work :)
*Deep Focus + Quick Focus + Shape of Unn* was the strat I used (and for the Radiance haha). Quick + Deep Focus meant that the damage taken could be healed while conserving soul for spells. Shape of Unn is, as mentioned, very useful. Hope this helps someone 🦀
One thing I really liked about this guide was how you kept saying “-for me.” You know that everyone does things differently. Personally, I just used Quick Slash, Unbreakable Strength, Shaman Stone, and Grubsong. I usually pogo’d the Dive Dash and Uppercut, and with the Dive Dash I went with Grimm’s momentum.
I'm so glad these guides have helped! 😃 Well done with that 100% Steel Soul file! 🎉😃 And thank you for letting me know that these guides have helped. 😃
Nightly Moss On my first play through I never beat him on my own even after around 100+ tries. I asked my friend to do it for me since I was that bad at it.
I spent a solid 6 hours learning tactics to deafest NKG through repeated fighting until I finally won, and then a week later you release the video explaining how to beat him. Just my luck. Anyway, amazing boss discussion as always and thanks for putting all this work in for the Hollow Knight community
I get it Jack. And I'm so proud of you for putting in all that time and effort and beating NKG on your own. Way to go! :D Thank you Jack. I appreciate it. :)
Good question. We could say 0 or we could say 4. 0 because his behavior doesn't change at all throughout the fight. 4 because he does the Pufferfish attack at 75%, 50%, and 25% health so that kind of marks how far into the fight we are and could be considered a marker between phases.
Thank you! This video helped my defeat NKG in just 37 tries! Please continue making such great guides, they're really helpfull and it's very nice learning about they'r lore in the same video.
After like 30 attempts at this and only getting him to 75% 7 times, i was pretty done with this fight. Then i found this video and i gotta say, it really helped me. I still took awhile getting used to his attack speed, but this video helped me get through the basics of it, and how to generally counter him. Really Great and Helpful video!
This is probably my favorite boss fight in all the games I've played. I lost for about 100 times on the switch until I finally beat him. Now i just wanna fight this guy over and over. He seemed so fast at first but once I got used to his moves and speed, the fight felt like a dance. If you're not used to his speed it feels like you want to keep up with and chase him, but there are times when you have to slow down your movement to get a window to attack. Never rush into him; he's great in punishing overly eager attackers. This was a performance indeed.
Even if I don't need help for NKG at all (I casually beat him on Radiant now), I love watching your videos and reading the comments. I like to see how everyone have a different way of dealing with a boss pattern, I find it interesting.
Thanks for the shape of unn tip, I couldnt've done this without it! Shape of unn plus deep focus turns every bats attack into focus time, you dodge the whole attack and you heal for two! I opted not for quick focus cuz i found you finish the heal too soon to dodge the whole attack so you either hold the botton down longer wasting precious soul, or you stand back up just in time to get hit by the fourth bat. I finally finished the fight with shape of unn, deep focus, stalwart shell, grubsong, and of course grimmchild. I was mainly using stalwart shell and grubsong cuz I felt I was still learning the fight and was planning on eventually switching them out for the strength charm, but I got an attempt where I was on fire dodging almost every attack perfectly and eventually I just pinged him down. Great video, it helped a lot learning to dodge the attacks!
For all the people who use a phone to watch TH-cam videos (like me!) Nightmare King Grimm’s attacks: 1:26 His Tactics (in the description it says “My Tactics”) (What he learned and his first Nightmare King Grimm victory): 8:04 Other Tactics: 13:05 Nightmare King Grimm defeated and Lore: 20:34
I took around 30 tries, and I definitely found what did and didn't work. This playstyle focuses around being able to take risks much more easily. First of all, the strategies. Stutter walking was infinitely useful on flame pillars, but make sure to not go too slow. At the end, around the last pillar, try to upstrike Grimm 3 times, whilst still moving. For both the uppercut and drill attacks, I found pogoing on NKG to be essential. You should pogo during his dash, and dash if he is doing the drill attack. If you don't hit him, feel free to double jump. For the Fire Bats attack, jump, dash between bats 2 and 4, and double jump over bat 4. Be sure you aren't too close to Grimm as the bats are spawning, though, since bat 3 will easily hit you on its way up. After dodging, attack Grimm as carelessly as you want for the rest of the duration of the attack. During all these attacks, never get too close, especially during Fire Bats. During Cloak Spikes, find a safe spot ASAP, and immediately start healing, only once. For the Pufferfish attack, circle jump. Your health and soul don't matter during this attack. Some charms I found to be useful were Stalwart Shell, Quick Focus, and Mark of Pride. First, Stalwart Shell. The Nightmare King is designed with a "rhythm," and getting hit breaks this rhythm, and you will get hit over, and over, and over again. Stalwart Shell helps you get back into this rhythm, and you can get back into the rhythm. Next, Quick Focus. This is very simple. You can heal more safely during floor spikes, and you can heal three times during the stagger. Finally, Mark of Pride. This helps you pogo on Grimm during his dashes, and you can hit him with less risk of him teleporting away during Fire Bats. You can use almost any one slot charm, except dream catcher. I hope I could help anyone stuck, and remember to try again and again until you succeed.
i wish grimmchild didnt just gain 4 damage but instead became a mini child grimm that would behave like boss grimm just a lot weaker and on your side instead of making you suffer try and tell me you wouldnt want that
That would be very awesome. I also think it'd be really cool if after you killed the Nightmare King, the Grimmchild was still a bat, (looking cooler of course,) but could perform more than 1 attack. Like, maybe they could make a small flame pillar to hit an enemy, or shoot fire bats!
This is great! Thanks! Can't wait to try *Dancing* with the Nightmare King Grimm again. (His theme song is great and I love his design too. I should find time to paint the Nightmare King Grimm.)
Man I was looking everywhere for your take on this boss because I was SO stuck trying to beat him. Funny thing is that I finally did it last night, love your videos keep it up!
@@PerpetualNoob wow, a response from the creator. Nice surprise. But honestly. This game was genuanly enjoyable and personally half the fun in games is the outofgame research and community. I know I've heard your voice somewere before so keep up the good work man. Most people just watch and dont comment or upvote but we are all thankful.
I know this is a year late, but I really, really appreciate this guide. I got into Hollow Knight extremely late and I struggled hard on most of the fights, but this one took me forever. This guide motivated and taught me most of this attacks, and I finally defeated him after a 2 hour play session. I've now gotten much more consistent with it, and I am currently working on beating that cursed 5th pantheon. So, thank you!! Keep it up :)
I have so much nostalgia for this video, I was stuck on NKG for so long but this video helped so much & now I can beat NKG on radiant with little effort it’s like second nature now & I even have a comment on this video asking for help. Thank you perpetual noob you honestly made my hollow knight experience so magical
Oh gosh. Thank you for your incredibly kind words Plaque Dr. I appreciate you. And I am so happy I was able to help you have a better time with this game. 😃
Excellent breakdown - thanks for all your hard work!! :D NKG is still above my pay grade, but as per usual this series is making me want to try again. Having a video like this to refer to honestly helps a lot in dealing with the anxiety of super tough fights.
It's the only boss that I can redo infinitly without getting bored, even the Radiant is fun, I love the challenge that is NKG, it's not an impossible challenge, but a fun and fair one.
This boss is frustrating when you first fight him. But once your reaction time is good enough and you can recognize each attack, it is easily one of the funnest fights in the game. The pacing feels great and each attack is able to be punished to a considerable level. It dosent feel like bullshit to die against him unlike other bosses. The fact of knowing that you progressing (Pufferfish every 25%) is great and shows that you are making progress.
The charms I used were pretty helpful in the fight (not including Grimmchild). My charms were: Defender's Crest, Lifeblood Core, Glowing Womb, Nailmaster's Glory, and Sharp Shadow.
Still havent beaten him after two days of trying. Its unfortunate but the ost and setting are so cool that I dont wanna give up! Thanks for the pointers, I find it helpful to watch other people and analyse them and the tips for dodging really helped!
I'm impressed with your persistence. That is awesome. :D I am sorry he's proving to be such a difficult fight. But you've been making it to his final 25% so I know you'll beat him. :)
@@PerpetualNoob after hours of frustration I finally did it, thank you so much! The reward may not have been worth it but the satisfaction and relief surely was!
When I was learning to defeat nightmare king grimm, I found it best to not try to move around grimm, but to let grimm move around me. I'd only move to dodge attacks, while dealing damage.
Thank you soooo much for making this video! I tried fighting this boss for at least two hours, but after using the charms you recommended, I finally beat him! The charms make a great balance for offense/defense tactics
Honestly, I'd hope that after defeating the Radiance, our Knight would try to experiment with the maturing grimchild to enable him to live eternally and without having to repeat the cycle over and over and over again.
It wasn't cool of me to state how many attempts it took because everyone experiences these bosses differently. Your journey with this fight is your own. It sounds like you are making progress and I know you will beat NKG. 🙂
He does double damage in the Nightmare King fight because all of his moves are fire type and therefore super effective against bug.
xD
You sir are big brain
This deserves more likes
Can the Knight be taught rainy day
Meh, the knight might be albe to learn a rock move (2x effective on fire)
I will always love Grimm even if he has a voice that sounds like he needs to drink a whole container of milk lol.
That's what happens when you are a ritualistic nightmare king that consumes fire. You get a voice that sounds like you smoke thirty packs a day while speaking in tongues.
Plus he skitters away on all-fours because he's an anti-social spider boi.
Now this is making me think..Since the Grimm Troupe is basically a circus, I wonder what it would be like if Grimm tried to sing...
I will never stop hating Grimm.
Ye he needs some flaming milk
Nightmare King Grimm is a very philosophical Boss Fight. Why you ask?
Because he made me reconsider my life choices ...
xD
But not as philosophical as GPZ, PV and AR, that's for sure.
Umukzus Gelos lol. Same for me and Greenpath Hornet, Making me realize it’s more fun to do dumb things than plan.
Umukzus Gelos I’m going to see how little upgrades you need to beat him and if it is humanly possible to do so.
want to reconsider life more? complete POH in 5 attempt (you can learn the boss pattern at the god tuner place i forgot)
I've heard NKG say "SEH" more than I've heard those buzz saws in the White Palace.
The white palace is my hell.
I've heard NKG say "seh" more than I've breathed
Broken Boy I don’t wanna brag with my skill but after playing through Celeste it didn’t feel as overwhelming.
@@vengeflyking2722 "I don't mean to brag, BUT FUCK I'M SO GOOD AT GAMES"
Jk man, good on you
impossible
His most powerful attack is actually standing up
like when he does his downwards drill thingy attack and headbutts you?
the dive dash attack
@@triangletriangle4520 I think that's the attack, yeah. He just kept touching me by standing up after he finishes that attack.
That sounds about right.
Accurate
Pure Vessel: hold my beer
Absolute Radiance: **sets Pure Vessel’s beer and her beer on the ground**
xD
Absolute Radiance: **fires wine in a deadly beam because she has no arms and thinks she's above beer**
Radiant NKG: "Hahahahahahaha."
I see a comic in Deviantart of this XD!
Jesica Fel is it on you tube
After *FINALLY* learning how to dodge his attacks, this fight does indeed feel like a dance. A dance of flames, awesome music, and an adorable Knight
A powerful tall bug, and a smol mans
NKG is easily one of my favorite bosses, alongside with Mantis Lords. His battle really feels like a dance.
I problably tried around 70 times until a finally managed to beat this beast. But I didn't mind dying this much, his theme is just SO GOOD.
I understand Thiago. I feel the same way about NKG's fight. It does feel like such a dance. His fight is number 3 on my Top Boss Fights list. :)
I second this comment, tho I will also throw Soul Tyrant in my list of favorites as well. His fight is even faster and feels even more like a dance
Only 70 tries?!
To me it feels like I am playing Street Fighter. He spams his Shoryuken, I spam my Hadoken.
I really like the Mantis Lords, it's all based on timing and memory, and you feel like you really win after beating them unlike other boss fights, they even fricken bow. NKG is kinda the same.
I’ve seen so many images of Grimm’s scream with the TRIGGERED caption.
Y e s
The Hollow Knight you sure?
Y. E. S.
NKG... the only character in hollow knight that kept the hornet fanart at bay... mostly
*shudder*
xD
Joey Stebbins excuse me what now?
@@grimm9349 We all know...
Joey Stebbins oh no.....do people ship me with Brumm? Please tell me this is false
@@grimm9349 If you look long enough, you can find ships for anything...
When I was trying to beat the Pure Vessel, every time I would lose through what I thought was “bullshit” I would beat NKG just to make myself feel good again
XD
... and here I thought I was the only one who did that to restore my ego...
FLASH JAMER how dare you
I did the same with radiant pure vessel every time I died to a death wish boss from a hat in time
Me too
I had the, And I do mean THE stupidest method of dealing with the pufferfish fireball things cause I couldn’t dodge it normally.
I would double jump, and then pogo on top of him. For the entire attack, all 3 times.
Yeah, I don’t know how I won myself.
he does the pufferfish 4 times
Knightmere Grimmkin did you watch the video?
He does it only 3 times. At 7:10 he says “75%, 50% and 25% health”
@@natgrant-haysey3713 ive been mistaken, thank you
that's actually a good strategy if you know how to pogo correctly
I got so angry at NKG back when I first started fighting him but slowly i just kind of grew to enjoy the deadly dance. He’s such a great boss if you can get past the exasperation of losing and just kind of enjoy it.
I totally understand. :)
I agree at first it was frustrating but now I take it as more of a challenge kind of like a super deadly game of cat and mouse.
For every boss that gives me trouble, I go full health build with Joni's Blessing and other health charms.
That forces me to focus on dodging and learning attack patterns instead of trying to heal. And with 22 masks you can take a lot of damage before dying, which gives you a lot of time on every attemp to just observe the boss and get familiar with everything he does.
That is a very solid approach to bosses! :D
I did this after reading this comment, grinding the fight for one day then going with my actual build the next, worked like a charm
Joni's Blessing plus Hiveblood. Great combo for any boss where you can dodge them pretty well but you can't find time to heal.
Ha! So I’m not the only one to do this. I call it my scouting mission ^_^
THIS! Listen to this guy. Having enough health so you can play enough time against a boss, until you learn all his attacks is the key to beating him.
Item #: SCP-6001
Object Class: Keter
Description: Subject appears to be a slender, black, slightly-humanoid figure wearing a large, pointed cape. DNA-Analysis shows that the subject is related to the Calyptra Thalictri (Vampire Moth) species. Subject is capable of temporal relocation and must be contained by at least two (2) Scranton Reality Anchors at all times. Level 3 security clearance or higher is required to interact with the subject along with permission from the local site-director. On rare occasions on-site personel may report dreaming of a red subject similar in appearance to SCP-6001. Any on-site personnel reported dreaming about this subject are to be quarantined, questioned, given Class-A amnestics, relocated, and replaced by more suitable personnel.
(I felt this deserved to be a comment when I thought it up)
Fair enough. :)
I bet NKG gets really bored in confinement
@@moon-cg3qs He probably just practices bowing over and over, and makes sure he is perfectly red
*Runs off to the Nightmare Realm
See ya suckers! Send Bright my regards!
Do it with the other bosses, please...
Nightmare King: "What is a bug? a miserable little pile of secrets.. but enough talk have at you!!"
When you beat NKG but still have Devine in your village after her storyline with the charms she says something like now I can catch up to master to me meaning that grimm is still out there performing the ritual somewhere else, the grimm child is just another vessel for the nightmare heart.
Fair point.
She says that if you upgrade all the fragile charms whether you beat NKG or not.
Exams be over tomorrow; gonna hop on HK and forget everything I learned this semester soon.
But until then...
The most requested boss guide?
Timestamps in the description?
Sounds like a good Christmas gift to me.
Also, funny text hype.
Thanks William! :D
Oh look it’s (was) the hardest boss in the game
What is it now? I've barely finished the game.
Straight God either true radiance or Pure Vessel. I haven’t fought true radiance, and I think NKG is harder than PV
It’s absolute radiance, pure vessel and nkg become very easy once you nail their attack patterns, AR is much more rng based
SaNds GAm1nG trust me, it’s not
Pure Vessel still feels like Nightmare King Grimm on crack because he has more attacks...
PV also feels quicker than NKG, might just be me tho.
Either way, these two bosses are really hard.
Patterns can be gotten is just still really flipping hard.
PV also feels harder in this sense, NKG feels like he has a much bigger down time between each attacks so you do get a brief moment to regroup if you just screwed up and started panicking.
PV is like no I am going to keep going at your face most of the time.
AR is another story tho, that is just pure hell.
One simply does not dodge 3 attacks at the same time...
Nor does one simply dodge mach 5 homing light balls of death.
Also BS last phase of luminus infini is just not cool.
I’m not giving up my baby grim !! Hollow nest is a lost cause
besides, what good is nightmares in an already dead kingdom?
@@gemstonegynoid7475 oooh nice one
If Elderbug has any nightmares I'm holding you personally responsible.
@@matthewjones6786 then tell him to stop pestering the baby
@@Gooberwares It's only 'cause those ding dang Grimm kids are playing their devil music too loud! Also, get off his lawn! *shakes fist*
I’m sorry but the “knight’s height” unit of measurement is the most adorable thing I’ve ever seen
Such a badass boss, just beat him yesterday, favorite fight in the game, and one of my favourite bosses and boss themes ever!
Awesome! :D
Sameeeeeee
Glad you showed this! I really never even noticed he scurries on all fours!
You're very welcome. :)
NKG seems to have 6 arms or legs when he scurries away
Yep. As much as insects actually are supposed to have.
The reason I beat him the first time was finding out I can poggo on Grimm's head when he puffs up (got hit once or twice while trying, but otherwise, he never hits you if you're directly above him with the flames).
Well done and that is true. I know I had footage of me doing that but I can't remember if I included it here. It is certainly another great way to avoid the Pufferfish Attack, especially if we can double jump up there as soon as NKG appears because then we avoid the fireballs entirely. :)
Yo....how
I've beaten Cuphead before trying Hollow Knight, and I'm glad I did, because that game certainly helped me get good at dodging attacks like those normally. And enhanced my reaction time.
NKG in a nutshells:
* sounds of crashing and death *
I hope no one has done this. If you did well I didn't know.
The music is amazing but I just wish I could survive long enough to hear the whole thing XD
That's fair. xD
you can get it on spotify
Same. I always get that first 10-15sec
Versus enemies like Hornet and Grimm, I always end up going with the mobility-boosting charms (Sprintmaster, Dashmaster, Sharp Shadow) both to increase my ability to chase down and get hits in, and for the visual appeal of both combatants moving at blinding speed while darting at each other.
Very cool. :D
He protecc
He attacc
*But most importantly*
You almost can’t hit him bacc
The first time I played the game, I banished him by accident, and then i started a new game (to get more trophies) and fight the nightmare king.
That's what I did on my first playthrough too. :D
@@armanyusaf5019 I don´t think so.
@@armanyusaf5019 You dont need to deal with Grimm for getting the Hunter's Mark. Only monsters and bosses from the original game are required. So its just the question, which charm you want in the end.
Well that was an unexpected lore speculation. A surprise to be sure but a welcome one I assure you.
Cool! Thank you. :D
This fight took me so, so many nights of endless dying to get right, but it's one of my favorite boss fights ever. There's a rhythm to it and once you get into that rhythm, it's like some crazy state of zen.
Agreed. :)
"within half a second of NKG staring at the floor..."
NKG: ah yes, the floor is made out of floor
Hes calculating how fat the dying flame should be to hit you after the pillar retracts
@@astrylleaf he really is. and you fail almost every time
@@timekeeper2569 "almost" is the key word 😎
After over 30 tries, I finally managed to beat him. I was tempted to just go the easy way out and get the song charm (I don't know what it's called), but even though i'll never use the grimchild, the satisfaction I got from beating the boss was definitely the biggest reward of all.
Fantastic! Great job sticking it out and defeating NKG! :D
@@PerpetualNoob Thank you =)
Location-0:40
Attacks-1:25
Charms-11:10
Other Tactics-13:05
Defeated/Lore-20:35
20:14 perfectly cut screams
Have you noticed that Grimm has up to 5 legs visible when he slithers away if the knight is too close to him before doing an attack.
Whoa. I did not notice that. I thought I only counted 4. That's really interesting Shade.
*goes back and stares at skitter frames*
Holy crap. 5 legs. *mind blown*
@@PerpetualNoob he has a leg from his back
I’m trying to figure out why they made the horns on NKG’s head longer. My best guess is that they wanted them to look like devil horns.
Yeah. Probably. That or just to make him look bigger overall and therefore, more imposing. :)
Either way, I think they may have gone overboard with the red. xD
its because they want to screw with even more people by standing up and getting hit
Wow, nothing says New Years like *Nightmare King Grimm*
I love the knight height measurment and I am going to you use it whenever I can :D I never thought about dashing through him as he is doing his pufferfish attack. Pitty I never found the guy in the Hallownest but I'm happy with the ending I got; thank you for your videos throughout the year and keep up the good work :)
Thank you yusuf! Thank you for watching and enjoying these guides. :D
I’ve been waiting so long for this happy it’s here
Yay!
*Deep Focus + Quick Focus + Shape of Unn* was the strat I used (and for the Radiance haha). Quick + Deep Focus meant that the damage taken could be healed while conserving soul for spells. Shape of Unn is, as mentioned, very useful. Hope this helps someone 🦀
If you have the extra notches, sharp shadow helps too.
OMG!! I did it finally after so long thank you this was so helpful. I took the time to learn the attacks and finally WON!
One thing I really liked about this guide was how you kept saying “-for me.” You know that everyone does things differently. Personally, I just used Quick Slash, Unbreakable Strength, Shaman Stone, and Grubsong. I usually pogo’d the Dive Dash and Uppercut, and with the Dive Dash I went with Grimm’s momentum.
Nice work beating NKG! 😃
And thank you for letting me know you enjoyed this guide. 😃
You guys helped me beat flukemarm back in 2019 and I’ve come a long way, including a 100% steel soul
I'm so glad these guides have helped! 😃
Well done with that 100% Steel Soul file! 🎉😃
And thank you for letting me know that these guides have helped. 😃
Took me about 30 try’s and he is now my fav boss
Same.
Nightly Moss On my first play through I never beat him on my own even after around 100+ tries. I asked my friend to do it for me since I was that bad at it.
Took me 100+ tries he is the Boss i most hate now
@@Crayon_Egbert was the dance you did elegant though
I love when you teleport with the dream nail, the Grimchild rolls up in its cloak and teleports with you.
Right? Isn't that baby so adorable? 😃
I spent a solid 6 hours learning tactics to deafest NKG through repeated fighting until I finally won, and then a week later you release the video explaining how to beat him. Just my luck.
Anyway, amazing boss discussion as always and thanks for putting all this work in for the Hollow Knight community
I get it Jack. And I'm so proud of you for putting in all that time and effort and beating NKG on your own. Way to go! :D
Thank you Jack. I appreciate it. :)
Hey I have a question how many phases does he have
Good question. We could say 0 or we could say 4. 0 because his behavior doesn't change at all throughout the fight. 4 because he does the Pufferfish attack at 75%, 50%, and 25% health so that kind of marks how far into the fight we are and could be considered a marker between phases.
@@PerpetualNoob hey I appreciate you answering my question but I already beat NKG :/
Woo! Congratulations on beating NKG! 😃
"With a burst, he's off."
I laughed too much at this-
Thank you!
This video helped my defeat NKG in just 37 tries!
Please continue making such great guides, they're really helpfull and it's very nice learning about they'r lore in the same video.
Thank you for saying so Aule! 😃
And congratulations defeating NKG! 😃
This fight is by far the closest to a Dracula fight from a non castlevania game
Yeah but way harder than any Dracula fight in any Castlevania game.
@@germanandres24 yeah, WAY harder. makes it a lot more satisfying to beat him though
@@popgoesfan5211 Do you still play this game after 3 years?
@@germanandres24 yup! i love the game!
Really? I've never played a Castlevania game so I didn't know.
3:40 = me when i play incineroar in ultimate
After like 30 attempts at this and only getting him to 75% 7 times, i was pretty done with this fight. Then i found this video and i gotta say, it really helped me. I still took awhile getting used to his attack speed, but this video helped me get through the basics of it, and how to generally counter him. Really Great and Helpful video!
Oh I am so happy to hear that this guide helped you! Congratulations on beatign NKG! :D
This is probably my favorite boss fight in all the games I've played. I lost for about 100 times on the switch until I finally beat him. Now i just wanna fight this guy over and over.
He seemed so fast at first but once I got used to his moves and speed, the fight felt like a dance. If you're not used to his speed it feels like you want to keep up with and chase him, but there are times when you have to slow down your movement to get a window to attack. Never rush into him; he's great in punishing overly eager attackers. This was a performance indeed.
Even if I don't need help for NKG at all (I casually beat him on Radiant now), I love watching your videos and reading the comments. I like to see how everyone have a different way of dealing with a boss pattern, I find it interesting.
Thank you tdl. I appreciate your kind words.
I also enjoy seeing how others defeat a boss. :D
Great breakdown dude! Please do a Pure Vessel breakdown
Thank you. :D
Yep, it's coming.
Thanks for the shape of unn tip, I couldnt've done this without it! Shape of unn plus deep focus turns every bats attack into focus time, you dodge the whole attack and you heal for two! I opted not for quick focus cuz i found you finish the heal too soon to dodge the whole attack so you either hold the botton down longer wasting precious soul, or you stand back up just in time to get hit by the fourth bat. I finally finished the fight with shape of unn, deep focus, stalwart shell, grubsong, and of course grimmchild. I was mainly using stalwart shell and grubsong cuz I felt I was still learning the fight and was planning on eventually switching them out for the strength charm, but I got an attempt where I was on fire dodging almost every attack perfectly and eventually I just pinged him down.
Great video, it helped a lot learning to dodge the attacks!
Way to go Jeremy! :D
I'm so happy to hear that this guide helped! :D
"The bats will poorly track us"
Duh, bats are blind
Grimm's voice is so anticlimactic, because when you hear the acordeon player's voice you get a really serious vibe, but in grimm he just sounds weird.
Fair enough. :)
For all the people who use a phone to watch TH-cam videos (like me!)
Nightmare King Grimm’s attacks: 1:26
His Tactics (in the description it says “My Tactics”) (What he learned and his first Nightmare King Grimm victory): 8:04
Other Tactics: 13:05
Nightmare King Grimm defeated and Lore: 20:34
I took around 30 tries, and I definitely found what did and didn't work. This playstyle focuses around being able to take risks much more easily. First of all, the strategies. Stutter walking was infinitely useful on flame pillars, but make sure to not go too slow. At the end, around the last pillar, try to upstrike Grimm 3 times, whilst still moving. For both the uppercut and drill attacks, I found pogoing on NKG to be essential. You should pogo during his dash, and dash if he is doing the drill attack. If you don't hit him, feel free to double jump. For the Fire Bats attack, jump, dash between bats 2 and 4, and double jump over bat 4. Be sure you aren't too close to Grimm as the bats are spawning, though, since bat 3 will easily hit you on its way up. After dodging, attack Grimm as carelessly as you want for the rest of the duration of the attack. During all these attacks, never get too close, especially during Fire Bats. During Cloak Spikes, find a safe spot ASAP, and immediately start healing, only once. For the Pufferfish attack, circle jump. Your health and soul don't matter during this attack. Some charms I found to be useful were Stalwart Shell, Quick Focus, and Mark of Pride. First, Stalwart Shell. The Nightmare King is designed with a "rhythm," and getting hit breaks this rhythm, and you will get hit over, and over, and over again. Stalwart Shell helps you get back into this rhythm, and you can get back into the rhythm. Next, Quick Focus. This is very simple. You can heal more safely during floor spikes, and you can heal three times during the stagger. Finally, Mark of Pride. This helps you pogo on Grimm during his dashes, and you can hit him with less risk of him teleporting away during Fire Bats. You can use almost any one slot charm, except dream catcher. I hope I could help anyone stuck, and remember to try again and again until you succeed.
i wish grimmchild didnt just gain 4 damage but instead became a mini child grimm that would behave like boss grimm just a lot weaker and on your side instead of making you suffer try and tell me you wouldnt want that
That would be so cool!
That would be very awesome. I also think it'd be really cool if after you killed the Nightmare King, the Grimmchild was still a bat, (looking cooler of course,) but could perform more than 1 attack. Like, maybe they could make a small flame pillar to hit an enemy, or shoot fire bats!
I prefer the look of the Stage 4 Grimmchild but I still wish it got more then just 4 Extra Damage
This is great!
Thanks!
Can't wait to try *Dancing* with the Nightmare King Grimm again.
(His theme song is great and I love his design too.
I should find time to paint the Nightmare King Grimm.)
You're welcome Raquel! Thank you for enjoying the guide! :D
I would be so excited to see your painting of the Nightmare King. :D
Man I was looking everywhere for your take on this boss because I was SO stuck trying to beat him. Funny thing is that I finally did it last night, love your videos keep it up!
Thank you Rob! And great job beating NKG! :D
Thank you so much! This helped me destroy nkg after what felt like hundreds of attempts
Yay! I'm so glad this guide helped and congratulations on defeating NKG! :D
Thanks for discussing this amazing game even a year after it's release.
Thank you for watching these guides still nearly 2 years after release.
@@PerpetualNoob wow, a response from the creator. Nice surprise. But honestly. This game was genuanly enjoyable and personally half the fun in games is the outofgame research and community. I know I've heard your voice somewere before so keep up the good work man. Most people just watch and dont comment or upvote but we are all thankful.
17:36 I keep laughing at, “can really help us bop NKG safely”
I know this is a year late, but I really, really appreciate this guide. I got into Hollow Knight extremely late and I struggled hard on most of the fights, but this one took me forever. This guide motivated and taught me most of this attacks, and I finally defeated him after a 2 hour play session. I've now gotten much more consistent with it, and I am currently working on beating that cursed 5th pantheon. So, thank you!! Keep it up :)
I'm so happy to hear this guide helped you! :D And well done defeating NKG! :D
Am I watching this only because HK Boss Discussion series is a really great and interesting? Yes!
Thank you S-punk! You are so kind. :)
@@PerpetualNoob :3
I have so much nostalgia for this video, I was stuck on NKG for so long but this video helped so much & now I can beat NKG on radiant with little effort it’s like second nature now & I even have a comment on this video asking for help. Thank you perpetual noob you honestly made my hollow knight experience so magical
Oh gosh. Thank you for your incredibly kind words Plaque Dr. I appreciate you. And I am so happy I was able to help you have a better time with this game. 😃
I still yet need to beat him but my god do I love his boss theme music.
It is pretty great. :)
I love Grimm because it felt like we were actually dancing once you get his moves down
20:15
Grimm belongs on perfectly cut screams
Excellent breakdown - thanks for all your hard work!! :D NKG is still above my pay grade, but as per usual this series is making me want to try again. Having a video like this to refer to honestly helps a lot in dealing with the anxiety of super tough fights.
Thank you Miko! You are so kind. :D
I am so happy to hear that these guides are helping. It means the world to me. :D
I find him as an advanced version of hollow knight's battle of course the nightmare form cranks it up to 11
Nightmare King Grimm has to be my favorite boss, just for the challenge factor!
Excellent Job!
It's the only boss that I can redo infinitly without getting bored, even the Radiant is fun, I love the challenge that is NKG, it's not an impossible challenge, but a fun and fair one.
Agreed. :)
NKG is staring at the beautiful floor
It's just so pretty. :)
I enjoyed the tactical and lore discussions, thank you for a good vid.
Thank you Mo! I'm so happy you enjoyed this guide. :D
This boss is frustrating when you first fight him. But once your reaction time is good enough and you can recognize each attack, it is easily one of the funnest fights in the game. The pacing feels great and each attack is able to be punished to a considerable level. It dosent feel like bullshit to die against him unlike other bosses. The fact of knowing that you progressing (Pufferfish every 25%) is great and shows that you are making progress.
This boss took me like 30 tries to beat but Pure Vessel took me more than 100 tries, Pure Vessel is the real definition of a frustrating boss.
@@germanandres24 yeah true, pure vessel took me a long time and I still haven't beaten pantheon 5. Abs rad is too hard for me
Eh. Everyone experiences these bosses differently. 🙂
The work you put into these videos is insane! Thank you!
Thank you for saying so Hiandbye! You are so kind! :D
Its sad to see such good videos with so little views to youtube’s modern standards, only because the topic is not as “popular”.
Thank you for saying so Peloncio. I truly appreciate your kind words. :D
Perpetual Noob ty for teaching me how to beat nkg ;p
Just beat him today, couldn't have done it without your help! This video was really helpful!
Awesome! Great job beating NKG! :D
And I'm so happy to hear this guide helped. :D
The charms I used were pretty helpful in the fight (not including Grimmchild). My charms were: Defender's Crest, Lifeblood Core, Glowing Womb, Nailmaster's Glory, and Sharp Shadow.
Solid build. :)
I finally beat the bastard thanks to your charm suggestions. Shape of Unn really was critical. Thank you so much!
Awesome! Congratulations! 😃
I'm glad this guide was able to help! 😃
The combo of SOU and QF, which I call swiftshaper, combined with the DF and QF, known as focus pokus, makes the combo dual shift
Ha! I like it. :D
Still havent beaten him after two days of trying. Its unfortunate but the ost and setting are so cool that I dont wanna give up!
Thanks for the pointers, I find it helpful to watch other people and analyse them and the tips for dodging really helped!
I'm impressed with your persistence. That is awesome. :D
I am sorry he's proving to be such a difficult fight. But you've been making it to his final 25% so I know you'll beat him. :)
@@PerpetualNoob after hours of frustration I finally did it, thank you so much! The reward may not have been worth it but the satisfaction and relief surely was!
I just started the dlc this will help a lot thanks
I can't wait for Hornet's dlc
Awesome! Thank you JJJ! :D
Tips that I would never use in a fight but are interesting facts sums up your hollow knight videos
Fair enough.
7:17 7:17 7:17
Free time stamps of NKG Inflating like a balloon
Thicc bih
MetaMarx are you serious?
MetaMarx your profile picture is my favorite character.
"The dream nail is not easily aquired."
Speedrunners: *I beg to differ*
To be fair: speedrunners make a lot of what is regular folk say about video games null and void. 😂
@@PerpetualNoob fair
When I was learning to defeat nightmare king grimm, I found it best to not try to move around grimm, but to let grimm move around me. I'd only move to dodge attacks, while dealing damage.
Good strategy. :)
Thank you soooo much for making this video! I tried fighting this boss for at least two hours, but after using the charms you recommended, I finally beat him! The charms make a great balance for offense/defense tactics
Honestly, I'd hope that after defeating the Radiance, our Knight would try to experiment with the maturing grimchild to enable him to live eternally and without having to repeat the cycle over and over and over again.
Why
you die after defeating the radience
Yes. They were speaking hypothetically, stating that they wish they could do a thing instead of what actually happens.
The memed you insert are honestly best. Beating the nightmare king is so hard, but then godmaster came around with damn near impossible challenges.
Thank you semi. I'm happy to hear you enjoy them. :D
And yeah, NKG is scary but hoo boy are there some true nightmares in Godmaster.
This is my favourite boss ans ive challenged him so much that i dont even find him hard anymore
THANK YOU, the Shape of Unn is absolute winner in this fight, the ability to heal during the bats and the fire pillars just won me the fight.
Woo! Nice! 😃
My load out for NKG
Unbreakable strength
Quick slash
Mark of pride
Steady body
Thorns of agony
I use nailmaster glory,unbreakable strenght,joniblessing,sharp shadow,grubsong,and thorn of agony
I used quick slash, longnail, steady body and shaman stone
Uh, don't you need Grimmchild ? Strength, Quick Slash, MoP take up 9 notches already...
Sorry, to clarify, this is my loadout for when I’m fighting him in godhome.
I cut out thorns of agony for the first fight.
Glad to see you are still making those!, keep up the good job!
Thanks star! :D
"It took me 50 attempts to beat nightmare king grimm!"
Me on attempt 56 only getting him to 1/4 health.
It wasn't cool of me to state how many attempts it took because everyone experiences these bosses differently. Your journey with this fight is your own. It sounds like you are making progress and I know you will beat NKG. 🙂
Great thing to listen to while grinding the boss