No God? No Problem! Dying Out Loud w/ Dave Warnock + Seth Andrews 10.17.23
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Seth Andrews is a former evangelical and Christian broadcaster who now hosts The Thinking Atheist…one of the most popular podcasts and online atheist communities in the world. The Thinking Atheist is not a person. It is an icon encouraging all to reject faith and pursue reason and evidence.
Seth has authored five books, including his latest offering, “Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot.” He also hosts a second podcast, "True Stories with Seth Andrews."
With a mix of humor and heart, Seth Andrews has spoken for audiences large and small in the U.S, Canada, Europe, and Australia about his former faith, the promotion of science and skepticism, the importance of Humanism in this often crazy world, and why we should all pursue a personal relationship with reality.
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Dave Warnock is a true warrior. Stay alive as long you can Dave. Your voice is of utmost importance
2:24 Dave and Seth's wonderful intro.
13:56 Faune (she/him) - Atheist | Caller is deconstructing and is looking for better ways to form epistemological ideas.
29:44 Paul (he/him) - Theist | Caller is a Christian and he explains why he believes that "Jesus is the way, the truth and the light."
49:28 Deepak (he/him) - Atheist | Caller asks how to have better conversations with his fundamentalist Christian family members.
1:04:21 Michael (he/him) - Atheist | Caller hangs around engineers and researchers in his work, that somehow shut down reason, and prefer faith, when it comes to the god belief, and an interesting conversation about why that might ensue.
1:13:59 Ken (he/him) - Atheist | "Jesus didn't make that much of a sacrifice for humanity."
1:18:17 Superchats.
[Love all the Halloween talk today
Now that's quick work getting the timestamps done!
thank you
Thanks again Faia! Very much appreciated.
@@timothykeith1367
That’s just gaslighting. Thank you for revealing the product of your religion’s brainwashing.
Warning to anyone reading this before watching: Paul -TX (29:44) is annoyingly ignorant and self deprecating to the point of being painful to listen to! His god goggles are so tight there's no oxygen or nutrients getting to his brain!
I want to thank "The Line" for platforming Paul from Texas, because I missed my preacher delivering lies during Sunday service, so I appreciate the sermon delivered today.
I’m getting really close to having to set boundaries with my family to protect my mental well-being. Hearing the different deconstruction perspectives definitely helps me stay sane.
Dave, you are the best. I am so sorry you are not well. I wish you could recover from this illness and live a very long, happy life.❤
ON Deepak's call. I have a personal friend who is very much embedded in these beliefs. It seems to work for him, but I wouldn't ever want that theology for my own life. I tend to debate theology with him, but I enjoy those conversations. He doesn't know I'm an atheist per se, but he definitely knows I'm skeptical of his theology. Our friendship has been based in mutual respect and good-natured debate for YEARS and the religious difference has never been a problem, whether I was a different stripe of Christian or a free-thinker outside of the faith. Hope that helps Deepak if he comes across this comment. Good thoughts from the hosts as well. I love your work gentlemen!
Thanks mate, it is extremely restrictive and misogynistic as well which just makes me feel worse that someone I know has voluntarily accepted this belief.
This is one of the best atheist shows I’ve ever listened to. You’ve provided that comfort Dave spoke about along within rational caring ways of dealing with irrational people. Thank you both.❤
Dave, I loved your narration on your book!!!
Dave Warnock, I had no idea! Thank you so much!
My wife and I were discussing as Easter was approaching (we are socially catholic) about Christ dying on a Friday and resuscitating on a Sunday that’s technically not three days, so I told her that he probably died at 12:00 AM Friday and resuscitated at 11:59 PM on Sunday so that’s exactly 72 hours, she got a chuckle out of it.
That got me thinking of something I read: if you’re sitting on a toilet at 11:59 pm and it hits midnight, it’s the same shit, different day. Lol.
Great Duo!! Regards from The Netherlands
Dave, keep up the fight.
Dave and Seth are awesome!
So appreciate you Dave! The way you put things really makes sense to me!
Paul from Texas keeps calling the show (and other THE LINE shows) over and over again despite the hosts more or less tackle his claims with a very similar approach. He has learnt NOTHING from what has been thoroughly explained to him yet insists and persists on his "I cannot prove it but it's true to me and it's in the Babble therefore it's true" narrative like a broken record in an echo chamber. I think he's merely preaching cause it's one tautology after another on every show.
He seems unable to either listen to, comprehend and/or coherently respond to even the first question asked to him. He is either plain stupid or his brain is fully rotted by his religious forming.
We atheists have read the stupid "Babble".
I'm not sure he's a legit caller
Love Seth's voice and the friendship and humor between Dave and Seth. 99.1 subs!
It's been amazing how you've dealt with this major challenge, knowing the outcome. I've known so many people with ALS who didn't last nearly as long as you have, and you're still going strong. You have spunk and you have purpose. I admire you, dude.
Lets just hope he stays with us much longer than expected, and then some!
Wow, listening to Christians like the first caller is what you hear in abusive relationships. “God wouldn’t do these things if we listened to him” “My husband wouldn’t beat me if I listened to him” Do you notice a pattern here? Abusive relationships
Love me.. Or else
Definitely going through grief and trusting myself as I'm deconstructing, it's only been 1 1/2 years
Take A Moment My friend.
I understand how you feel. Take care Stay Safe and Stay Free ❤
@jestermoon means a lot, thank you 😊
Why are you “deconstructing?” Have you believe the un-Scriptural teaching that the “lake of fire” burns for ALL eternity? Or; that “hell” is burning now?…. BOTH are NOT based on the Scriptures….The end result of the “lake of fire” is the “second death.” “Life” will come to an end.
Fantastic Show! Another dream team combo from the Line!
The community loves you Dave. You do what you need to do. We'll be here❤️ It's good to see you this week.
Yeah, sorry for sending it so late, but thanks @Arden! 😘 I honestly wasn't expecting it to get read at that point. Cheers!
Yes, you two are the dynamic duo. Love you both so much. What a great show?
Paul you don't have to remind everyone about the delay every time you respond lol
It started to sound really passive aggressive but maybe that's just me.
much love to the hosts for doing such a wonderful job, as always
Dave "Powerman" Warnock rules. 💪
Dave you have more balls than thirty x10000 other people I know
Paul was on with Matt and Shannon last week. And just heard Paul parrot the bit about "God creating hell for Satan and his angels", verbatim, from Matt's mouth.
And at the point Matt said that, Paul hung up.
Now he's here with and answer to that premise.
Anyone who thinks that not asking questions is a sign of behaving like a little child has never met a 4-year-old who keeps asking "why?"
Dave and Seth, I love both of your minds.
Why?
I have an 8 year old son! I love that he asks so many questions! He makes me think and also reassures me that he’s really thinking about stuff. I agree that it is usually the children who say why are we doing it that way?
Jesus spent 20 years learning woodworking from Joseph. As he was carrying the cross beam to his execution site, he mumbled: "I should have become a plumber!"
A plumber.
That's so deep.
The only "woodworking" Jesus is recorded as doing is killing a tree by yelling at it, and getting himself nailed to some wood. 😊
He's probably the one who explained to the Romans why nails are better than leather ties, and where to put them!
@@dougt7580 He was a great wood worker until that 10 x10 load bearing beam fell on his head, and he became a cult leader!
Irony: Joseph is a government contractor. He runs a cruxitorium (whatever; workshop producing crucifixes. Crucifii? Crucifae?).
Anyway
Jesus doesn't make the crosses. But he looks down and sees his Inspector 17 mark.
The word petard flitters through my mind.
These two are my favorite sometimes-hosts of the modern era.
You guys are two of my favorite hosts. You’re a great team. I always find this show insightful.
Paul from TX is not interested in anyone else's suffering, in the hosts' comments, the lack of clarity in the Bible. He's 'alright', so no further thought required.
He was only interested in preaching.
Loves to Dave and him spending his short time spreading the message of the evil of religion.
Raven I complimented Jimmy a while back in a comment and he thanked me for it. He said it was one of the nicest things he’d heard in a long while.
Jimmy can be a little annoying at times but can’t we all? He’s a good guy who has been through a lot and is using those experiences to help others that take a lot.
Great host combination! Love listening to both you guys, you make the best team yet.
Winston apologises for his snoring. I did not realise how bad it was until after I rewatched the call. Bulldogs love their zzzz's and I always feel bad waking him up when he's having a snooze.
😂😂❤❤❤
Haha sounded like you had a pet cave troll.
@@Locust13 Sounded like my dad 🤣🤣🙈
Since covid, my mom has had to do her customer service job from home. Our cavalier king Charles spaniel loves to sleep right next to her and snores louder than any human I have ever heard. She regularly receives questions from customers like "are you having construction done?" Or "what is that noise?" My mom just laughs and tells them that it's just our little cavie who loves to snooze while she is working.
Seth is definitely a binary thinker, but Dave is definitely a feelings thinker. Both are so very important!
Feelings cause ignorance.
@@garygood6804 You didn't respond to this comment out of logic; you provided no supporting evidence. You responded because you disagreed and that made you feel like you should correct someone, just like I felt annoyed by your ignorance and responded in turn.
@@markcontini5396 do I really have to spell life out for you?
@@markcontini5396 if you think with feelings instead of your brain, you will make mistake. You butt hurt simp
gary is a very sensitive person@@garygood6804
Seth, that smoldering stare. It's intimidating, and then not as well. It's nice to see and hear you. It'll be a great show!
Seth Andrews' purity talk "god likes to watch" was great.. highly recommend
Paul overcorrected for a delay that didn’t really seem to exist.
You guys need to ban Paul @29:49, dude has called at least 3-4 times trolling with the same script just to preach, and always avoids the questions while talking over you and interrupting you till he’s done, he’s a bad faith actor, thanks Jimmy, also gfyj.
Please start shutting down Paul's sermons on Line calls. Every time you all ask him a question he breaks open a bible scripture fortune cookie and goes into the brainwash script defense mechanism so he doesn't ever have to think or actually respond to you. It's already very stale at this point. I see people saying he's "nice", I disagree. You can smile while you "stab someone in the back". He isn't interested in a legit conversation and hasn't been on any of the calls. Besides that, great show LOL. You two are a fun team to watch.
I suspect that the nice guy thing was a bit of an act. It was a passive aggressive way to disregard anything they had to say. He constantly told them how nice and smart both hosts were but he was not having an honest conversation. That super nice christian act is very deliberate and manipulative.
Paul-TX comes in here and in being so nice (The glazed eye cultish kind of nice) doesn't realize how freaking condescending his preaching is, and saying Dave will be OK because of Jesus, bla bla woof woof is hurtful. The ignorance is astonishing! Has he never watched the show?
Hey Paul: Jesus did speak a lot about faith and to use it as the reason to believe, and so did many in the bible, all who were trying to convince people to blindly accept their absurd nonsense without question! Now had they instead said to only trust good and verifiable evidence, which is the right thing to do, no one would have listened to them for more than a few minutes for realizing they are trying to pull the wool over their eyes! Convincing people to believe by faith is the first and most important thing to get out of the way before convincing people of untrue, absurd, and nonsensical bullshit! It's literally telling people to do anything but think rationally, and you fell for it hook line and sinker!
30:49
Sincere young man. Honest and erudite 32:25
Good luck mate.
Dave is an inspirational fker for sure.
Am I being less than charitable in believing 'Paul' is a passive aggressive evangelist.
He couldn't or wouldn't follow logical connections and refused to answer questions. Yawn of a call.
David Cross has a really funny bit about the crucifixion and how it wasnt much of a sacrifice.
Dave and Seth, wow, wow!! Dave, I always remember, Hawkins lived with ALS until his 80s! I know, a 'freak' occurance. Still!👍💙💖💙🥰✌
Paul is a perfect example of how faith corrupts even the kindest of people.. I don’t believe he is intending to dodge or avoid, This is what happens when you believe in things without evidence.
Seth has a killer narrator voice. He sounds like the guy who narrated the codex in the mass effect trilogy (Niel Ross).
Paul does seem like a good guy but there was no delay listen to the call and you will find out.
I don’t think Matt or Jimmy will mind if I say
Dave and Jimmy you are both great guys how you keep your cool at times I don’t know. 👍
I loved the call with Paul. He seems like a person I would enjoy having a beer with. I bet he has more stories than the bible about his life.
Nah, his mr Nice Guy act is too obviously fake to me.
I think he is very nice person. It's just a shame that he thinks he needs a ‘faith' for that, because he doesn't need it at all.
You can almost hear the words bounce off Paul's programming.... poor sod.
Is there a place where I can get The Line without dealing with youtube's ever increasing restrictions? For instance if my watch history is turned off then I can only search specific videos or go to subs. That and I am now getting a popup saying adblockers are not allowed but to get around it I could pay for premium. Not interested in paying for premium.
Paul from Texas, like other Christians, never question the logic of the crucifixion story. Being the son of god Jesus had inside info AND he's an immortal being. What did he risk, and how can an immortal being "die"? And even KNOWING how this is all gonna go down, he still asks, "father why have you forsaken me?"...talk about "ye of little faith"...guess he forgot about the "mustard seed". As Alan Watts put it, he had an advantage, "he was the boss's son". Jesus didn't risk anything.
These old boys have got grit
Matt once disputed the phrase "the truth the way and the life " saying it is actually "the light" as the caller said. Both hosts said "life", and a quick google search confirms it. Could please someone clarify it to me?
I'm perplexed by atheists respect your view points the only thing that I can say as a Christian is I believe because I was raised to respect and love the god of the Bible. I however didn't know about God allowed slavery and the bad things it says god did. I'm speechless on all that. My mom was apart of the Jehovahs witnesses religion. My dad was the one who saved from getting baptized by them. It's hard for me cause I do believe that there is a god but IV not understood God since my dad passed. Dave I thank you for coming on love seeing you hope you feel better soon🎉
Gulliber Gomer the question evader
1:13:01 On March 20, 1995 the doomsday cult Aum Shinrikyo orchestrated the sarin gas attacks on several morning commuter trains in Tokyo. Making sarin gas is not easy, but the cult counted quite a few chemists, doctors, and other people of higher learning in the sciences among their number. This question of why people who otherwise live and work in the data driven world of science could at the same time hold completely irrational and immoral beliefs was a big topic in Japan at the time.
For those who might be interested, the author Haruki Murakami wrote a non-fiction book called "Underground" in which he interviewed several victims and witnesses to what happened. And he was able to interview some of those perpetrators who hold advanced degrees to find out how they justified their actions.
Regarding Paul's call ... as a science nerd, don't you think the god he speaks of is more of a scientist, and we're the science experiment? There's no father with a scientist. The experiment either gives you the results you're seeking or it doesn't (and you try again). Also, don't you think a pardon would be easier than a sacrifice? Feel free to use these thoughts.
Is someone snoring in background during Deepak call???
Yes. Winston 😂❤ My dogs also snore like crazy 😂😂❤
My personal example of bad design is I am entirely blind in my left eye since I was think 12 years old. Im in my fifties now and it bothers me not at all but it wasnt good design to make the eye such a flimsy thing.
Tom Harpur The Pagan Christ. Details where many of the christian belief came from. Hint, many have been co opted from earlier cultures.
Crucifixion's a doddle
Poor Prometheus, gets his liver ripped out and eaten every day because he helped humanity and Jesus just has a bad weekend, yet Paul thinks Jesus was the only deity suffering for mankind.
Geez I am at 44 minutes and praying that they cut Paul off! How brainwashed can one person be?
" I meed to create People " ...
I wonder if (god) , thought that also
34:46
Who cares?
The universe doesn't care about us.
We all die.
Then we will find out.
Good luck mate.
Thank the team. 36:59
We have infancy Gospels for Jesus. There's probably a good reason they didn't make it into The Bible: he was a little monster.
I really hope i never have to hear Paul ever again.
Crying out loud 😮
Yes, sometimes it is like that.
@@MrCanis4 we all die...it is Nature,... greetings from Skandinavia Denmark 🇩🇰
Paul is either dishonest (troll) or in serious need of help and in both cases we can't help so maybe just put him in the same box as Amanuel, Ely and Robin and never let him on the show again?
I like you guys but maybe you were too nice here. Paul wasn't answering your questions at all, he just kept preaching at you, you should have kept him on track
Please make cat a window sticker
You have to take your licks.
"Jesus had a really shitty weekend for your sins"
One weekend in eternity. That's a big sacrifice, isn't it?
@@MrCanis4 sorry i don't know these stories so well so i'm not sure what you're referencing, i just thought Seths phrasing was funny. Would you elaborate?
Judas the best desciple
Since when did the heart have anything to do with feelings and truth - my hearts one and only job is to pump blood around my body... another religious deception to muddy the water that is needed to justify faith.
If god exist and is so angry and worried about sin then he should took care of it in the garden. Why, because he’s god an supposedly love us and wants a relationship with us. So he failed in taking care of his children!! And wants to blame us!!!!
Seth is too humble 😊❤
Should have been tougher on paul-tx he needs help with his delusions
Seth how do you have time to keep yourself so immaculately groomed?
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