Shimon Schocken: The self-organizing computer course

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  • @martincattell6820
    @martincattell6820 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    People like Shimon Schocken restore my faith in humanity. He seems to love learning so much that he must share it with the world. Thank you Shimon.

  • @MaryMPringle
    @MaryMPringle 10 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    "Grading takes the fun out of failing."

    • @alyssamcelwee8059
      @alyssamcelwee8059 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like help take

    • @CUSELİSFAN
      @CUSELİSFAN 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @ProjectTuring Definitely. The lesson from years of schooling should not be "you are not allowed to fail". Failing is a part of life, and adulthood is handling life gracefully.

  • @stachowi
    @stachowi 9 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I've been waiting my entire life for a course like this... what a gift considering how important computers are these days!

    • @warshon123
      @warshon123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I hope you've been able to explore some of the computer science Shimon Schocken has produced. Good luck on your endless journey of becoming greater and greater!

    • @malx1289
      @malx1289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So did you do it

    • @malx1289
      @malx1289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a call to action not a slight against you

    • @stachowi
      @stachowi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@malx1289 i'm a tech entreprenuer, so i've used this course to better understand the full stack of abstractions, no i haven't built his computer.
      I am looking forward to the updated version coming out this June.

    • @KatarinaClaes-q1p
      @KatarinaClaes-q1p หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@malx1289 I'm doing the course right now, and it's so much funnn

  • @ameyakoushik9059
    @ameyakoushik9059 6 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    This guy is a genius! So inspiring this is. I am currently doing his Nand2Tetris course and I feel I am being transformed. Highly recommend it to anyone who wants to know how a computer works(especially non computer science students)

    • @sabirnawaz1304
      @sabirnawaz1304 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey bro how are you man am a javascript programmer currently doing C++ jumped back to C++ for some pure concepts but it was not enough I want to learn how a compiler is design and how all the things languages under the hood work so I just came across his course today I am excepting that I will learn to design a compiler and understand all the theories behind programming whats your take on his course should I switch from C++ to his course and then back to C++ do you believe I will get something very satisfying kindly reply me am completely broken

    • @CianMcsweeney
      @CianMcsweeney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sabirnawaz1304 You can complete the Nand to Tetris course in any programming language, the OS, assembler, compiler etc can be written in any language you wish

    • @furkanunsal5814
      @furkanunsal5814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sabirnawaz1304 Hello colleague, how is it going? did you finished the course?

    • @sabirnawaz1304
      @sabirnawaz1304 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@furkanunsal5814 sorry bro couldn't limit myself to frontend yet

    • @ayush3927
      @ayush3927 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much time does it take?

  • @zionen01
    @zionen01 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Mid way through his class, with a full-time job it's hard keeping up but I'm loving it, the more I do it the more I want to keep doing it and I just wish I had more time for it. Great work indeed.

  • @ayeminoo2067
    @ayeminoo2067 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Can't describe my excitement. I was so excited the way the professor show how as a teacher we can let students learn themselves and in far better way instead of learning formula by heart.
    And you mentioned "Grading sucks!". How true it is!
    Thank a million Sir.

    • @arfanm9440
      @arfanm9440 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Fellow Burmese

  • @finaldarkjon
    @finaldarkjon 11 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Not just CS/CE but this theory should be applied to all learning environments. It truly works, i have experienced it myself..

  • @jousefm6146
    @jousefm6146 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is by far one of the best talks of TED.

  • @farhan44able
    @farhan44able 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to watch this gem of a video. Shimon Schocken is one of those revolutionary professors who can make a society upgrade to a new level.

  • @nunzioturtulici9636
    @nunzioturtulici9636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great. I am fascinated by computers since I was a baby and become a mathematical and a programmer. Always wanted to understand how a computer worked and dreamed about building one, one day. Then I found their GREAT, GREAT course and I'm "attending" it. I'd like to thank people like them, which make humanity better :)

  • @renanreismartins
    @renanreismartins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i did this course. the work of this man should be considered part of the world heritage.

  • @samfortunato
    @samfortunato 11 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    self-education is something ive done ever since i was a kid.. taught myself coding + design, then guitar and various instruments.. most of the time, i dont feel as much passion for anything unless im excited about it, usually b/c i like it or have some goal with it..
    point is i think goals work best when they are personal, like mine were/are, and what schocken says here. and that drove me to learn for me, not grades. learning is exciting, not work, and this idea needs to come back into schools

  • @3227998
    @3227998 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't have been said more beautifully - "grading takes away all the fun from failing". I have been thinking about this idea for a long time and couldn't agree more with Mr. Schocken's view on grading. Students became so much concentrated on grades that subsequent stress is overflowing which in a result leads to loosing big/important picture of education.

  • @ela_seo
    @ela_seo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    "Grading is degrading". Upgrading in my opinion is appreciating progress not perfection.

    • @ctogaurav
      @ctogaurav 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, appreciate for efforts.

  • @mikeyo1234
    @mikeyo1234 12 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I know more about psychology than most people with a degree in psychology and even quite a few psychologists and professors. I've been self studying for 20 years. A hobbyist works harder, and for longer. Informal education beats a formal education.

  • @TheSkyJackal
    @TheSkyJackal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Almost done with it... its Amazing! connecting the dots of multiple topic in CS & CE such as programming, computer architecture, operating systems, Hardware & software..

  • @vanosswolf
    @vanosswolf 12 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love the simplicity. It makes me realize that while I am good at my job, I do not always know how I arrived to point C by starting at point A. Due to techology, point B is pretty much removed from existance. How much of a expert am I really? I have to understand what makes up point B...

  • @AngusPearson
    @AngusPearson 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy has really hit the sweet spot - If only this were used as a foundation for eduction.

  • @sarvasvarora
    @sarvasvarora 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm self-taking this course in high school as a 12th grader..... loving it!

  • @stormarrow2120
    @stormarrow2120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Almost done with Nand2tetris! Couldn't be more great full!

  • @flaviodg2323
    @flaviodg2323 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank God there are people like him on this planet!

  • @dhanvinprajapati7049
    @dhanvinprajapati7049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am starting my journey with this course now and am so excited (in my finale year of graduation and may be its too late i think) 🤞🤞

  • @rohinibarla
    @rohinibarla 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worth watching for every entrepreneur, who wants to build something of an impact. And for every computer science student or self-learner to know what is the first principle of computer science and understand them by doing the nand2tetris course.

  • @dantedom1
    @dantedom1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "when you really want something to happen, the whole universe conspires so that your wish come true" - Paulo Coelho

  • @devanshshukla8857
    @devanshshukla8857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm halfway through the course and it is so so rewarding!

  • @kushagrasaxena5202
    @kushagrasaxena5202 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12 years later this course is still relevant and amazing!!

    • @harshgupta5027
      @harshgupta5027 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro after attending the course would i be able to build something other?? I know basics of c++

  • @elemenz888
    @elemenz888 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rate this talk at 95 out of 100 points, making it 95%, giving it 4 and a half stars,
    and a B+ (A being the best) with a special never gonna give, never gonna give, give you up...
    never gonna give, never gonna give, give you up...
    We've known each other, for so long...

  • @vitaliydidyk8220
    @vitaliydidyk8220 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how much i miss old yt videos

  • @Tictosaurus
    @Tictosaurus 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome ... that's all I could say. Wish I were a kid again and start from scratch!

  • @hamza_belmellouki
    @hamza_belmellouki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    big thanks, from morocco

  • @shintsu01
    @shintsu01 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love to see all the TED talk ideas about the reform of education to get more traction. it pains me to see the limitations of the current education system. It has a huge disconnect with the current generation. and is obsolete since internet makes information abundant.

  • @kemalbey271
    @kemalbey271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you a lot. you are my hero

  • @CLEANDrumCovers
    @CLEANDrumCovers 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    So humble. This guy is great.

  • @aakashbudhiraja1231
    @aakashbudhiraja1231 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can anyone Dislike this video!!!
    It is the most awesome video i have ever seen

  • @CottonBallLightning
    @CottonBallLightning 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This sounds exactly like what this high school student needs to get started. And people say you learn nothing from youtube.

  • @crummmycheese
    @crummmycheese 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dont know a computer language like java works,but this course helped me understand this...even though i read multiple times online..taking this course helped me,i am still to finish this .Thank you 🙏

  • @LethalBB
    @LethalBB 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Favourite TED so far.

  • @narayanbhat3279
    @narayanbhat3279 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way of finding the area of a triangle totally freaked me out!

  • @magister343
    @magister343 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Self-study is a term for the Action of teaching oneself.
    Autodidact is a term for the Person who teaches himself.
    Autodidacticism is a synonym for self-study.

  • @sumathividhya
    @sumathividhya ปีที่แล้ว

    I found this gem lately :)

  • @JonathanZhan
    @JonathanZhan 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's about the effectiveness and importance of education motivated by the curiosity to develop an understanding of things from first principles. This is presented as an alternative to the shallow education patterns engendered by a grades-focused education approach.
    So I disagree - this is one of the best TED talks I've seen.

  • @Krounz44
    @Krounz44 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    that doesn't mean i support violence, i love peace, and i support peace.. but at the same time, i can't blame a father who lost a whole family at the same time..

  • @mgmartin51
    @mgmartin51 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think his grandfather would be amazed at the results of his legacy.

  • @DhruvSethandmyworks
    @DhruvSethandmyworks 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    brilliant . . . Even after finishing of schooling i still wana try those basic apps. Coz what he was said was true .. some people are just true learners
    they dont waorry abt age/grade. . . for them learning is it !

  • @Justgoodvids
    @Justgoodvids 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for putting the link in the description!

  • @allhailalona
    @allhailalona 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    וואי אחי איך שומעים מיד לפי המבטא שאתה ישראלי. גדול! אין על אסמבלי, השפה הכי טובה שיש

  • @marktindal2186
    @marktindal2186 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The UK is using a great system with similar principles now called Education City, my daughter really enjoys using it and it hammers home key numeracy, reading and writing skills.

  • @praveensoni2245
    @praveensoni2245 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, starting course today

  • @albert275
    @albert275 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really feel that learning something is not that difficult, and the current structure of classes/lectures are not the right ways to do them. Learning should be done in the person's own time, hopefully driven by themselves, and the lectures should be reserved for advanced applications of the learned knowledge.
    From personal experience, I can learn many many times faster watching Khan Academy than by listening in lecture.

  • @davidphamle
    @davidphamle ปีที่แล้ว

    It's ironic that the motivation for him to build NAND2TETRIS course is because university took the fun away from learning computer science with all the gradings and not allow students to fail, but my university is using this course and charged international students so much money and also set a high hurdle in which half of the students failed.

  • @Spark_Books
    @Spark_Books 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best course about computers.

  • @ujjawalsrivastava9969
    @ujjawalsrivastava9969 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is beyond beautiful ❤️💙

  • @princeninja4874
    @princeninja4874 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's All about people

  • @Ruby_V_
    @Ruby_V_ 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy, needs a larger position of leadership, now.

  • @WilhelmDrake
    @WilhelmDrake 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Failure is how we learn. Grades and testing are an impediment to learning.

  • @LordPBA
    @LordPBA 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am still stuck on writing nand and xor... :(

    • @davidnodes800
      @davidnodes800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You dont have to write nand you are given that

  • @420RittzBish
    @420RittzBish 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The end of this, the tablet learning shit. Fucking AWESOME. Why can't I be a future kid?

  • @slatemath3310
    @slatemath3310 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    slateMath, you can find it at the iPad apps store

  • @AmineBoulaajaj
    @AmineBoulaajaj 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I still need this app. :)

  • @Jedi1976
    @Jedi1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this is really amazing talk💓

  • @0MoTheG
    @0MoTheG 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only we would progress in education a quarter as fast as in technology! I do not see much progress at all.
    In germany the Professor walks in, talks and writes to the chalkboard, walks out again, that much I can get out of any book.
    The classes are composed to be homogeneous: the same number of every ethnicity and the same past grade average, not by learning style and interest/speed

  • @boogyman19946
    @boogyman19946 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:03 - "The world came."

  • @TadaGanIarracht
    @TadaGanIarracht 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a little button above your left shift key. You should press it.

  • @Krounz44
    @Krounz44 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    not trashing! i really enjoyed the video, and i think it is very inspiring regardless where is the speaker from, he did add something to my knowledge, and i do respect him for that.. but the part where he said, his parents where busy building a country made me say something.. and please no need to use filthy language..

  • @sudhanshupatel
    @sudhanshupatel 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    really great job :)

  • @AndyWJP
    @AndyWJP ปีที่แล้ว

    I am creating a Digital Logic Simulator that supports Nand2Tetris called logic-simulator-2

  • @expeng5861
    @expeng5861 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "self-contain" 是我最看好这门课的一点啊...

  • @Video-tipsTv
    @Video-tipsTv 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Inspiring lecture! Thank You.

  • @johnfox137
    @johnfox137 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truth has been told, my best way to learn is to make mistakes, which is simply unacceptable in universities, so sad.

  • @agemoz
    @agemoz 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is a little nervous, but great talk.

  • @brianredbeard
    @brianredbeard 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn right.

  • @KiranKumarBegari
    @KiranKumarBegari 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome 😎

  • @LosReyesSon
    @LosReyesSon 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, he meant adjudication. Look it up. It is indeed a real word.

  • @VaibhavSharma-zj4gk
    @VaibhavSharma-zj4gk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great Course....Can you suggest some other course as good as this one?

  • @NerdyLiberal
    @NerdyLiberal 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    What can I say? They know how to work computers ;)

  • @0MoTheG
    @0MoTheG 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    At my university they did not even manage to build a simple µC from a crude specification that they had written from an existing commercial architecture to FPGA stage. The specification was already poor and the project management ***

  • @DMITRI1ZARAGORA
    @DMITRI1ZARAGORA 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Visionbear is old and almost blind now from inoperable cataracts and eye infections . He makes no excuses for himself, and i make no excuses for him. He is still more knowledgeable from Universities and life than many, even of his age. yes he has made his own computer ,and tries to correct his own word and typing errors. Dmitri Zaragora

  • @cosmin379
    @cosmin379 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "we don't replace teachers" - yes you do and it's great that you do! stop being defensive about it.

    • @SirUncleCid
      @SirUncleCid 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Cosmin Apreutesei They're teachers themselves, amirite

    • @shubhammittal9764
      @shubhammittal9764 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Many teachers around the world are looking for better environments to teach students in. They are not to blame for anything, it's our collective understanding about education that's taking a shift now. It's beautiful

  • @ChristopherJManess
    @ChristopherJManess 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Sauce!

  • @wulf8121
    @wulf8121 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is amazing!!!

  • @fuzzy793
    @fuzzy793 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Insightful thanx for sharing

  • @daobagua
    @daobagua 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound like the FPGA course I went through.

  • @lioretgar
    @lioretgar 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great!

  • @Chic01taliano
    @Chic01taliano 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    That reminded me about Rosetta Stone when i learnt french

  • @vinayseth1114
    @vinayseth1114 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting! One question though- where did the kids get the hardware for the Nand to Tetris project?

    • @omfgprizma
      @omfgprizma 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Vinay Seth You use a hardware simulator among other tools that you download, so no actual hardware.

    • @vinayseth1114
      @vinayseth1114 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Tobias Lans Oh ok. Thanks.

    • @vinayseth1114
      @vinayseth1114 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Tobias Lans Oh ok. Thanks.

    • @abythomas6607
      @abythomas6607 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Toblas Lans Hi, can I do this course on Ubuntu? Or does the software work only on Windows..?

  • @morthim
    @morthim 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    "grading became degrading" :) well said

  • @sakokosa
    @sakokosa 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    yea!!!

  • @spoderman15
    @spoderman15 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like his philosophy of education, but I disagree a little. You have the freedom to make as many mistakes as you want, just not on tests. And if we don't require you have gone through this learning process by a deadline, how do we get people to graduate on time?

    • @MuhammadSaad
      @MuhammadSaad 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what I was thinking too. Outside of those tests, one still has plenty of time to explore and make mistakes. Although it is true that we have started putting way too much emphasis on those tests, pressuring the kids to spend most of their time worrying about grades.

  • @Kram1032
    @Kram1032 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apparently, Salman is a great name if you want to become an educator, inventor or artist. - And this is not an exclusive or.

  • @getbusy21
    @getbusy21 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes i like

  • @Krounz44
    @Krounz44 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    it is funny you are saying that, back in college, i did write a paper about Art history of Latin America..

  • @0cards0
    @0cards0 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you know that your most holy place the al aqsa mosque in jerusalem is built on the ruins of king solomon temple?

  • @HernanGabrielGonzalez
    @HernanGabrielGonzalez 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah right

  • @King8james9
    @King8james9 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dope!

  • @Krounz44
    @Krounz44 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    word!!

  • @jerrylittlemars
    @jerrylittlemars 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:17 so true

  • @visionbear
    @visionbear 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE VIDEO IS QUITE INTERESTING AS IS THE SPEAKER AND HIS PRESENTATION .

  • @yudy92
    @yudy92 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    getting stuck in the past when trying for a better future leads nowhere.

  • @Nathan287
    @Nathan287 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:40 ish So true.

  • @Krounz44
    @Krounz44 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    you have to cover history to be able to move to art history and see how it all came about..