Sony a7S III First Impressions Review (4K/120p video, 16-bit Raw video)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- The Sony a7S III is Sony's new video-focused mirrorless camera. The a7S III shoots full frame 4K/120p video, supports 16 bit Raw video and includes all-new high bit-rate video codecs.
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Canon has started figuring out how to make a mirrorless camera, and Sony has started figuring out how to make a menu. What amazing times we live in.
Canon has started making cameras that overheat and Sony makes a camera that actually works better.
@@brokeforever As a Canon user who doesn't care in the slightest about video...I still can't believe how badly Canon managed to drop the ball on that one. So close, yet so far.
BullFrog I think once canon comes out with lower bit rates and crop modes, it’ll get better for video, but for stills it’s the best there is r5
@@marioslrzn It'll help to an extent, but at the end of the day I think Sony will still stay on top for video. Myself, I'm going for an R6 to finally replace my 7DMKII for stills. The R5 and R6 are going to be the best stills cameras around in their price points, but these days video is equally important for sales, and theres no denying Canon screwed that up chasing after the 8k gimmick.
Now if we can only figure out how to beat Covid-19 and get back to our gigs!!!!!!!!
This feels like the lightest camera Chris has ever held in his hands.
It's the John Cena and Drax of the cameras
@Rich Clark Productions it's called a joke... did you watch the video before commenting ? :D
And yet he still managed to drop it. 😂
@@lwfeagan well it's so light he forgot he had it in his hands!
@Rich Clark Productions We are the camera. So of course we can feel it.
Sony VS. Canon = We win. Loving the competitions. What an era to enjoy the camera tech! Thanks much Chris and Jordan for the hands on.
Compliments from Vancouver Island :)
Too bad the camera market is dying.
TheIkaika777 the consumer segment is down but prosumer/professional market will continue will continue to do well
For sure - and they it is even better they have different views of the market. Canon is going after the hybrid shooter market and Sony is trying to target specific style shooters. Either way we win - there is something for everyone.
raz3000, and it was the consumer segment that was keeping camera companies alive. Sure there are more professional cameras coming out but less people buying them so prosumer/professional cameras went up 5% in price just help make up some of the loss. People just aren’t buying cameras as much anymore and those of us who do we are skipping generations before we upgrade.
“There were 100 million digital cameras shipped in the iPhone’s first year. By 2018, the digital camera market had declined by roughly 80%, to 19 million. Of Japan’s eight digital camera makers, the only one to log sales and profit growth in the most recent annual period through March 31 was Sony, and it was not due to gangbuster camera sales, but rather, the steps Sony took to wedge its technology inside the smartphone market.”
“The history of photography began with silver collidium daguerreotypes and it was a rich man’s game,” said Damian Thong, an analyst at Macquarie Group. “What we’ve seen with smartphones is the democratization of picture-taking. Today there are literally 5 billion smartphones in adult hands and we can take photos anywhere. In the future, the camera won’t go away but it will become a niche market again.”
“Fuji and the nostalgia market
Known as cheki in Japan, these retro snapshots have been popular for decades and are an example of how Japan’s camera companies have tried to innovate amid big technological and marketplace changes.
*** “The company sold 10 million instax units in the year to March 31, 2019. That’s more than half of the 19 million units in total digital camera shipments for 2018 logged by the Camera & Imaging Products Association (CIPA).”
OMG. They changed the menu? I have spent years learning the current one. How dare they!! 🤓
Unbelievable IT’s ture
It's like Nikon, but worse.
@@n1ngnuo Nikon's menu system is excellent. It was very easy for me to figure out.
Am always confused if take Canon or nikon in my hands...am disappointed by their menu system. I mostly shoot on Sony. Just learn to know your camera and you can deal with it.
It's a far better menu. Much easier to use.....
Hoping to see A7 IV with this body design and weather sealing, new menu, battery and maybe a 3.69mp EVF. Would also be nice to see a sensor resolution bump to ~30mp. Perfect all-a-rounder.
that's what im hoping for
I don’t care what the FF reso is, but if Super 35 mode can be at least 16MP then whatever that is in FF I’ll take it. Don’t want heaps of MP as I’d rather a low light beast
Bosstown Dynamics it’s 10MP in Super 35. I’ve had my A7iii a long time.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 One Card Slot, I'm after max versatility, thus owning the A7iii... the A7Riii could be good with a 24MP super 35, but i'd lose low light performance .. .can't have your cake and eat it too I guess.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 Nikon D500 or XT series with Fuji, there are reasons so many pros love these apsc cameras! APSC is the best teleconverter. We need to get beyond gear and back to photos.
6:29 “Canon GM 85mm F1.4”
wtf was that? just saw that now 🤣
Sony logo is upside down when you flip out the screen... the camera is unusable.
ScrattleGG put a piece of black plastic tape over it, then it works again 👌
For real it looks dumb, they should have put it elsewhere
Yes! Total dealbreaker!
Yeah, it is all about integrity
Put a tape over it that says ARRI and the quality quadruples. Easy fix. I'm pre ordering anyway.
Came for the fresh camera. Stayed for Jordan's fresh trim
I really hope this menu system comes to the A7R IV and A9 II. It looks like a massive improvement to the current menu setup, which is a low bar, but still.
They are not gonna do that.. users already get used to the previous menu system.
anubisdragoon Sony are pretty bad for updating older models so they aren’t going to do that. To be honest, I never had a big issue with the old menu system. You just assign what you need to the quick menu or whatever button and then only a few options might need menu access.
Ryan Stark yeah, I've been hoping for an A7R IV update for awhile now but Sony is so slow. IL sure the pandemic has slowed things down as well.
@@ryanstark2350 Sony gave us some reasonable upgrades in the past, whether that be to AF or bit depth. Not quite to the level supported by Olympus, but not bad. Time will tell.
And A7R II :D
I never new there is a canon 85mm f1.4 G master? All good. Need to be first off the blocks.
Have the same question)))
th-cam.com/video/iDZHHO3baxU/w-d-xo.html
I’m still wondering if that was a gaffe or a subtle joke 🤔
Your mix of depth and fun is still something special and always extremely enjoyable.
Let's take a moment and appreciate Jordan's haircut. Looks great!
“Let’s say you’ve got an interview subject who’s a leaner.” 😂
The easy solution is to control your lighting instead of blurring the hell out of the background lol, and then you have that movement latitude.
I appreciate Chris for having committed fully to the bit. Kudos, sir.
Is Jordan coming for the best hair title?!
For what it's worth, I have about 20 videos just appear on my YT subscription list about this release now that the NDA has been lifted. I went through them looking for DP Review first. For what it's worth.
Same here brother. DPReview is the best :)
@@Zx30 Indeed!
and all this morons get a a7s III but sony has not 2 cameras for our charming dp reviews guys? what a shame.
It was the first video covering Sony a7S III for me as well, but you got a heart from DPreview.
I am sooooo glad I held out from getting the R5. The Sony A7Siii looks like the winner.
the r6 is more comparable to the a7s3. r5 is high res
I just want to crack a smile every time he interacts with Jordan
Am I the only one who thought that active ibis clip was jumping around a lot?
Yeah, I think backwards walking might not be the best situation for this camera.
NO, you are right. Very bad in-camera stabilization for vertical movement.
As long as it’s using gyroscopic data, atleast there’s a chance for it to improve through firmware. I’m curious how the post-stabilisation software results will be.
To me, this was the best opening you guys have ever done.
I definitely preferred the colour coming out of the R6 video you did recently.
Could be the color grading or lens used that makes the difference. I believe they were using the Canon RF 50 which is like the god of lenses.
Yep, MUCH better R5 and R6, but R5 seems a little bit better than R6 in my opinion.
Same for me - but in the end the r5 seems to be unusable for every decent videographer with the overheating issues and no option of redundant recording...
@@jcproductions222 yeah, I agree.
I liked these colors better. The grading was also quite pleasing. Canons make white people look too red for me.
Beautiful Shoots DPR. You guys are the always the first channel I check for something like this. Also just a heads up: Most Nvidia GPUs (and Amd too,but not sure) don't support H265 4:2:2 decoding, meaning it's not hardware accelerated, even though 4:2:0 and 4:4:4 are HW accelerated. That is why the footage trashes computers.
Chris and Jordon... two crazies, great job gentlemen!!!
Finally video people can stop whining about every new photo camera that comes out and just buy this model, which is actually made for them.
😂😂😂👌
they had the first two A7S and still whined. why would it change ? :p
Ivan Phan Autofocus bro - been through so many cameras and said if the Canon video autofocus was on a Song I would get it. I also set a 5D Mark III with magic lantern had dual pics a lot of focus I would get it.
@@Luke-bt4do yeah, on FroKnowsPhoto channel, many photographers complain why it's only 12MP. I mean, it's for videos not stills.
@@fritzkier Nobody is buying the a7s III for stills and pretty much everyone accepts that, whereas video people are complaining constantly that this or that camera doesn't have some feature. Flip screen, video codecs, HDMI ports, overheating - they're stills cameras, none of it is a big deal.
Best preview so far. No emotional hate/love towards any brands. Keep it up. refreshing.
Jordan is looking so cool with his new haircut :D
3:40 Chris in front of a cannabis shop describing an invisible camera....okkk😂
Did you see that autofocus test at 12:25. That’s insane.
I love its invisibility which makes it perfect for street photography😍
I’m a stills guy first. Before the R5 I was looking at jumping ship to Sony, but this camera doesn’t make me jealous in anyway. Canon rules the hybrid market - Sony has something for pro’s specific needs.
"It looks like we're on a raging ocean" Oh my sides. Good to see that Sony still has some room for improvement :)
@What Are You On About pretty sure they exaggerated shake for testing purposes
Ya, but it would be better if they did not wait five years for features that could have been released three years ago!!!
Did you put a lut on here? why does the skintone look so stylized?
Yup skin tones looks a little off.... typical for Sony - there's an ugly red-purple tint like a skin rush
Sony skin-tones for you there buddy.
@@nagual2335 To be fair, it seems to be user error. Haven't seen this bad in other A7S III reviews. I am sure they are fine.
You guys are just the best in the business! Good balance between information and fun 🤣👍
Jordan and his love for waveforms and assist tools!
Video seems to have a yellow cast. As much as they talk about improved color science it still could be better, the b-roll footage from the other cameras looked much better.
Lee's Channel do you think Bm is better? Why?
@@kencur9690 Not BM, Panasonic S1H and Canon.
Lee's Channel hmm, why not bm?
@@kencur9690 Oh, I misunderstood your question. I am not familiar enough with BM to say. I was referring too the other footage in this video.
Lee's Channel ok cheers man.
Nice review, I do like that you took the time to get in some closer shots that demonstrate how focus on faces works.
Jordan's hair looks way better!! greetings from The Netherlands!! We love you guys here!! You guys are a great team together!!
Finally, a review about the photography on this camera. even if it was brief. i've seen too many about the video and I get it, it's great but would like to see other aspects as well. appreciate this video. thanks.
wow the image quality is astonishingly sharp and beautiful. amazing camera.
Ordered it. And guys, this video looks really good. I'm really liking the color, and it's an extremely clean and sharp image. Thanks for the video.
guess you do video 90% of the time... even a cell phone probably take better still.
@@ayayoutuber nope, a cellphone doesnt take better photos than a camera no matter how low the megapixel it got. Resolution is not as big of a factor as you think.
@@ayayoutuber
Guess you hate 90% of the time... even a Canon user probably makes better comments.
One of the funniest reviews with the camera drop at start and dampened shutter. Also, “there’s some stuff that annoys me, because that’s just my disposition” lol. It looks like a really nice, high tech camera. I’m looking forward to manufacturers adopting these really high spec EVFs.
The colors looked so much more pleasing on the graded Cine-D than S-Log.
The only downside to this being a 4K-only camera is that you can't punch in, reframe, and still deliver in full 4K. But considering the overheating issues with the R5, I think that's a reasonable tradeoff.
If there's one thing I have learned from Jordan, it's that you can make videos that are more than good enough for TH-cam on just about any camera available today. Focus your attention instead on lighting, stabilization, lenses, and focus.
I do think Canon is going to come out with their own XLR adapter or make one of their handles from a pro camcorder compatible with the R5 and R6.
Chris taking air photography to a whole new level.
7:05 "All I want is the perfect camera. All I want is the prefect camera....." 😂😂😂😂😂
Is this sample has awful skin tones or am I only one to see this? Maybe faces look green due to s-log3? Your panasonic videos are much better to me
Sony is known for horrible colour reproduction
@@Luke-bt4do it still looks horrible despite "improvements".
I think "awful" is a bit harsh, but agree Jordan's Panasonic-shot videos do look nicer. It's *possible* colours may be refined a little by the time the production model is released. It's also *possible* that workflow is a contributing factor, since I'd wager Jordan has a bit more experience working with the Panasonic files by now.
Blackmagic is the best for skintones in my opinion
Sony's choice to incorporate Klingon cloaking technology is a good move.
Qa'pla!
Props to Chris for keeping up that no camera bit for as long as he did!
You guys raise the bar everytime....
The stabilization isn't as impressive as Panasonic's it seems, even a bit jerky in some moments.
I think it is because it's using gyroscopic metadata stabilisation rather than analising actual image.
dead on. The walking sequences were very choppy for in camera stabilization.We need a world shutter and oversized sensor for true anti-shake results.
Man I've wanted to not have a Sony until this Jewel came out pre ordered!!!!
Difference between videographers and photographers, photographers complain about image quality and dynamic range, videographers complain absolutely about everything and rarely satisfied 😂
Screw Sony! I had A7R4, RX100VII, and a bunch of those tough G memory cards, Sony has treated me like trash. They make cool stuff but I would never buy another Sony product. The A7R4 I got some G-Master glass and my 24-70 had spots in the images I checked the sensor and nothing it was clean, turns out a brand new lens had dust between the elements... my RX100VII had a dead pixel on the screen literally I called Sony 2 minutes after I turned it on and the only option they gave me was to send it to a repair center and 3-4 weeks to get it back. So my brand new RX100 has been worked on. Lastly my memory cards, Sony issued a recall on some of the Tough G SD cards and 6 out of the 8 that I had were affected, I called and got authorization to send them in. Here we are nearly 2 months later, I still don’t have my memory cards, that over $1000 in memory cards. I have nothing. Screw Sony, I’ve been in touch with their customer service department and they have given me the runaround and the reasons have changed every time.
I have the same experience with Sony, they just didn't help and they didn't care 😏
Ensian Blåfugl I sent my A7R4 off for trade in a few weeks ago along with my 24-70 and 70-200 G-Master 2.8. Obviously I think I’m going to need new memory cards, so I’m not making that mistake again and buying Sony. It’s bad enough they had to recall their cards but to screw up getting me replacement cards. I’m so sick of it, I got my A7R4 December 2019 and with the lens issues I didn’t even get to use it for almost a month. At that point I was mostly over it then the memory card issue hit and I am so glad Sony is gone from my life. I don’t mind problems, but treat me like a customer that has dumped nearly $10,000 into your brand.
Love my still perfectly running original a7r3 and gmaster lenses. Sucks that you had to go through that
I’m a Blackmagic and Canon shooter but genuinely impressed by this new cam.
Of Two Lands do you think BM is stil better than this? Purely for video.
I'm also curious. I'm looking into the BMPCC6K and the Sony A7SIII for video.
@@kencur9690 Yes I do. Especially for the price. Having Prores and Raw internal is just too good.
@@AiringAustin BMPCC6K hands down. Can't beat the colours and codecs options for the price.
Of Two Lands thank you for the reply!
He missed the bit when someone ran off down the road with the invisible camera. Great Video as always guys
I really like this A7S III. Still shooting with my a6300 because I've a lot to learn before I need this tough
6:28 canon GM 1.4 lens
While I watch a lot of reviews, y'all are the ones I come to for the details. Imaginary camera holding is keeping the channel fresh! LOL
holy crap this camera seems bonkers. I just finished Gerald Undone's video and it seems absolutely perfect
like, absolutely perfect.
Camera seems good but the great news in this video is the hairstyle. Such a relief!
Great review. I only trust DPReview.
Thanks for the vote of confidence!
forget the camera, check out the fresh trim on Jordan! LIT
at 6:30 there is a photo example and the description says "Canon GM 85mm F1.4". Glad that Canon is making GM glass for Sony.
Wasn't expecting the Loxia 50mm f2, best 50mm I've used!
I think all Sony shooters are hoping that there will be firmware updates to give us the new menu and touchscreen functions on our existing cameras like the A7r lll, A7r4, A7lll, A9, A9ll.
Agreed, most consumer people don't even need internal RAW. I like the compression files.
Why even subscribe to other photography channels? Chris and Jordan not only have the most informative videos, but also the most entertaining! :D
That out of focus bit at 13:31 was too funny
Excellent detail and perspective from Jordan. I enjoyed watching this video.
Is this a prank? Fully articulate screen on Sony? 🤯
Is this an out of season april fools joke
Yeah, but they crippled it to 1.4M dots like with all their cameras. Kind of weird they put in a great EVF but crappy LCD, when this is a video camera and most will use the LCD.
It's not the first model of sony cameras with it. Check out the Sony ZV1 and camcorders.
I watching it on my Dell 31.5 monitor and it's the closest footage to real life I've seen in a while, on 4k everything is crisp, the colors are real and the dynamic range this camera can capture it's getting really close to what we are seeing in our own eyes, I can't be more excited of what the future will bring since this camera if way out of my budged for now.
Hey Jordan! I know it’s early, but if you had to choose between the S1H or the A7S3?
As a solo, and retired, TH-cam shooter, the Sony's AF outweighs the features of the Panasonic offerings. The Canon R5 just isn't comparable for video. Of course for a TH-camr, that makes very little money from the channel, it would be totally unreasonable to consider this camera at all. Really enjoyed the show, but don't see any of the cameras mentioned in my future.
I can’t wait to get this camera!
So DPReview and TCSTV were using same unit (926 markings) for testing and shooting their videos, interesting.
Great content! And the comic relief the two of you being is hilarious. Can't wait for the next video.
12 MP is fine for many photographic situations. It's not what I would want for wildlife or outdoor sports where, no matter how much zoom I have, I always want to crop in more.
If you're making huge prints all the time, this is not the camera for you either. But it can still print decently large sizes up to about A3 at 300 dpi if you don't crop.
But, for just about everything else, it's more than adequate. The extra dynamic range can help with photography just as much as video.
6:28 "Canon GM 85mm F1.4" Now there's a typo that's gonna upset a fanboy somewhere...
The a7sIII seems like a workhorse for the hybrid world. Consistency is the strong point.
It's a great video camera but who's buying this thinking that it's a great stills camera?
@@antant06 I mean if everything you shoot is never printed large and is mostly viewed on monitors and a TV screen from a distance? It absolutely is.
I'll hope Sony add shutter angle, waveforms and vectorscopes
you guys are hilarious!! Thanks for the review gents!!!
Love the loaded question in the beginning to entrap Chris! 😂
OK, you guys have to be the funniest duo out there. I just love the humour that you come up with along with such great content. Thanks for the review.
Sony can we please have those menus in our current a7iii and a7riv ?? PLEASE
Right.. I’d even pay a few bucks for it as an optional upgrade haha. I’m used to the menus but still it looks way better.
If they do that, it would be like making your flip phone run OS X. That would be impressive as f
@@alex0589 just curious, why do you think that? The cameras are the same basically it's just a software skin...
All I need now is an A99iii with the evf and rear panel in the same fully articulated design (not the flip out to the side), with some of the newer focussing features, and it'll be perfect.
Canon colours are better, but beside that, you have to admit, R5 (and R6) are a mess in their current state with overheating. It would also be good to see more ungraded footage with standard profiles.
YEP! Canon has to quickly solve those issues, otherwise colors are on another level, i think i will go to R5 even then.
Hybrid and video, not same segment
Patiently waiting for Sony to implement some of this sweet tech in their a6700, to come out hopefully next year. ☺️
Its like Sony forgot that they designed a screen that could tilt without flipping out, on the A77. Why didnt they implement a similar tilt/flip/rotating screen for the A7Siii? They could even have the flip hinge on the side (instead of the bottom), if they desired.
I hope we all get an update!
Looks good, but no waveforms??? The Cine profiles skin tones still looked green(ish) although the Slog 3 profile looked pretty good for skin tones. Maybe they just didn't have the time for better grading skin tones???
I feel the turbo boost gave jordan a buzz cut. Looking great guys.
I have the A7s and this is a massive leap forward. However, unless you master the complexities of S-Logs and grading and importing and exporting and codecs, you might as well video with your iphone.
When Jordan mentioned the leaner types during interviews it reminded me of this one scene in a 30 for 30 documentary, I think it was the Lakers/Celtics one, where Magic would lean in constantly in his segments and the camera would just lose the focus every time. Must’ve been a pain in the ass to film that lol.
Is Active Steady Shot broken at 11:20 or so? The footage looks horrible. I got a used 300 bucks Panasonic G80 and the pure sensor stabilization is WAY smoother than what is shown here.
Agree. Maybe Chris is walking like an idiot and you walk a lot better. You actually change how you move when you do a lot of video, so a photographer unused to video would not demonstrate IS at its best. But Panasonic has been regarded king of video IBIS so perhaps your G80 would handle it better.
wow. this is my Next Gear to Buy. i have X-H1 with 50-140mm f2.8 but i need compaq camera like that a7s III
12MP though? As a hybrid shooter this is a no-go. The Canons still offer better hybrid options (the R6 is also much cheaper). It's nice to see a good review that isn't all hype like most of the TH-cam videos out there.
Jordan win for the best hair style!
Do they really need a Sony logo on the screen if it is going to be a upside down when you flip out the screen? lol just remove the logo, Sony.
Vloggers will get the logo right 😅
We need a flippy Logo!
They removed in production cameras
Who uses headphones when Vlogging? No one does so the cables in the way point is moot. Otherwise a good review. Thanks
Holy actual balls just the first 10 seconds. That is insanely sharp that headshot of jordan! oh my lordie. I really really like it for this kind of personal stuff. Feels hyperrealistic, kinda what a high framerate does to lower res footage. I don't think I'd enjoy it for cinematic story telling sequences though