13 SECRET Pokémon Mentioned in the Pokedex That Have Never Appeared in the Games
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- The Pokedex is full of fascinating information, and that includes the existence of Pokemon that we have never seen before! Hidden throughout the pages of the Pokedex are various mentions of Pokemon that have never appeared in the games, but nevertheless actually exist according to the games' canon. These kinds of secret Pokemon are what we are highlighting in this video, as we take a look at 13 of these Pokemon in particular!
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Hope you guys enjoy this one! I also wanted to let you know that this will be my last pre-Scarlet and Violet video, and I will begin covering the games with my next upload on Saturday!! There's gonna be so much exciting stuff to talk about, so I hope you'll tune in over the next few weeks for lots of awesome videos! :) I will also be giving out spoiler warnings where appropriate, so you won't have to worry about getting spoiled while watching my content either! So I'll see you then, and I hope everyone has an amazing time with the games when they pick them up! :)
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Looking at your design for the skorupi ancestor, you could probably throw the joltik line into the mix
Paradox Magikarp would be cool though
I was waiting for the original dragon that split into Reshiram and Zekrom to come up...
I mean even if genesect was kabutops it isn’t normal it’s called genesect not kabusect it just doesn’t match up
Technically, the first regional variant we ever encounter is Exeggutor, since they were originally native to Alola and imported to Kanto
Nah, it was just retconed later in its existence.
@@JacktheRah Hence why he said "technically".
Same with Zigzagoon!
Alolan exeggutor was actually shown way before gen 7, there was a card which had one around gen 1/2.
@@jaschabull2365 do you know where i could find a pic of this card?
The animal that Corphish and Crawdaunt are based on ( Red Swamp Crayfish) naturally lives in the Southern United States and Northern Mexico. So, if we ever get a region based on either of those areas than that would be the perfect opportunity to give us the original forms of Corphish and Crawdaunt.
They could also be from Paldea, what do you think about it
unova is the United States. GEN 5. Crayfish are in every damn river the south isn’t special. You guys just eat them
@@hamburgler9839 Yes, but it's mainly based on one state( New York). I actually don't eat them and the specific species that Corphish is based on can only be found naturally in the South and Northern Mexico.
@@ethandollarhide7943 los Vegas is in new york???
There’s 9 species of crayfish in NY
I'm really surprised you didn't talk about the ancient dragon that split off into Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem.
I could be wrong but I assume it’s because that “lost” dragon Pokémon is commonly talked about. There were only 1 or 2 in the video I’ve actually heard about.
With the introduction of paradox Pokemon, I'd love to see paradox forms for genesect. A past form, showing what genesect was originally, and a future form where it's become fully synthetic would be really cool!
I want a paradox magikarp nowwwww
Kabutops is the past variant and Genesect is the future. Just look at them you can see the similarities. We need the present form.
Look, I don't want to be that guy, but do you _really_ think they're going to revisit paradox Pokémon again considering the franchise's history with past gimmick Pokémon like ultra beasts?
Sorry if this comment came off as a bit rude, I'm just not sure if they'll revisit the idea of these guys outside of scarlet and violet.
Paradox for all the fossil pokemon since we know not everything was rock type back then.
@@strongest-avenger0096 kabutops is rock water and I dont see how it would gain a bug type so I think genesect was modified from a different and similar pokemon unless the rock type was forced onto it via fossil revival which i don't think is the case
The funny thing is that there is actually a slug Pokémon that used to have a shell in ancient times. It’s just that it’s not Gastrodon; it’s Sliggo and Goodra. Makes you wonder if there are any connections between the two lines.
Hisuian sliggoo and goodra have shells too
@@callmesilver2683 I think that's what they're saying. Sligoo and Goodra are slugs in modern times, but in Hisuian times were snails, whereas Gastrodon was already a slug in Hisuian times
Omanyte?
@@donovanberserk4993 1) Omanyte is not a snail
2) Omanyte is never presented without a shell in modern times
Legends Arceus doesn't take place in ancient times. Between the cultural aesthetic, the active immigration from other regions, and the technology level (disregarding the Arc Phone), it was most likely the equivalent of the late 1800's, the Meiji Restoration era. Hisuian Sliggoo and Goodra probably existed at the same time as their Kalosian brethren, they simply died out before modern times.
I think Poipole's dex entry is referring to the Ultra Recon Squad choosing it as a partner. It's mentioned throughout the game that Pokémon battling isn't a thing in their world, which is why they needed outside help subduing Necrozma.
They also said that Pokémon is the starter Pokémon for their dimension. But I wonder if there’s other starters as well.
There's a replacement we can use for Poipole however. It's Necrozma. So Necrozma has like 3 other forms but none of those are actually Necrozma's TRUE form. It could be argued that Ultra Necrozma is, in fact, it's true form but in the dex it says that form is "a new form that even Necrozma had never taken until now." So that kind of leaves a gray area of what Necrozma looked like before it's light leaked out so I mean it's not really a secret pokemon just a secret form that I hope we'll see in a future game sometime.
Yet poipole states in it evolved form are exactly as the starters based stats, not to mention its the weakest amongst the other ultra beast so it is possible there are others that are like the starters in there world.
The term Partner is often used in several pieces of Pokemon media (particularly the Japanese anime) to refer to someone's starter Pokemon or their ace (eg. Ash/Satoshi often referring to Pikachu as his partner and not giving the same title to his others). Even if Pokemon battling wasn't much of a thing in their universe, the dex entry still suggests it's the starter Pokemon for what tasks are often expected of Pokemon there.
About Corphish: Being originated from another regions doesn't always mean there's a regional variant in place from the get-go. They're definitely invasive species, like Yungoos, but there's no way to indicate if Corphish itself has a different form based on their native region.
We've had this happen before, where a certain Pokemon is obtained through rare means in a given region and then we discover they're endemic to another one and can be found in the wild, like Lapras, Kangaskhan, Tauros, etc.
This is most likely the case for the base Corphish.
Crawdaunt could be the regional variant judging from this. Kind of like an Alolan Marowak situation, where Cubone doesn't change but the evolution suits the new region.
Of course, we've got yet to see what it comes out of it if anything.
Could just be a locational based evolution (real not pokemon) and clauncher is its "regional variant"
Agreed.
Pikachu, for example, was clearly only native to Kanto until Gen 6. Only available in the Safari Zone and Trophy Garden in Hoenn and Sinnoh respectively, and not available in Johto or Unova at all.
It would really cool to see some of these incorporated into a potential Scarlet/Violet DLC. The original Magikarp/Dreepy/Genesect forms in Scarlet, and the successful future evolution, de-corruption and curing of Magnezone/Porygon-Z/Parasect respectively.
I dont see Magikarp getting regional variant because dataminers stated that it had a convegent version and not a regional variant.
You can't cure parasect, it's already dead
@@courage1363they were talking about paradox mons not regional forms. But agreed, probably not likely
I think Magikarp as a fossil pokemon would be cool
The interesting thing about Magnezone is in Legends Arceus, it's the only one of its line that spawns outside the distortions. This can lead one to believe that Magnemite and Magneton are a side effect of the existence of Magnezone and environmental changes. It also means evolving it could theoretically be possible BECAUSE it originally didn't evolve from the Pokemon they do now.
Magneton is school form wishiwashi for gen 1
To be fair, sometimes a Pokémon is said to evolve FROM, as in "Magnezone evolves from Magneton".
We should check what the japanese text stays to see if it clears it up.
or it they could have been trying to make it mega evolve
@@igottoomanypets Perhaps unknowingly. I would think the Scientists of the Pokemon multiverse could determine where there's evolution potential, even if they're unaware of the necessary mechanics behind it.
In pokemon scarlet there a paradox past form of magnezone but not it pre or post evolution
If I am not mixing up the names
An I did mixed them up with magneton still interesting to think about tho since it almost definitely related to magnezone
For the next video, you should include the "Original Dragon," which is the mix of Kyurem, Zekrom, and Reshiram
Yeah, I was surprised this one wasn’t mentioned. I know it’s not as “secret” as the other ones but I think it’s still interesting enough to at least mention
I was surprised it wasn't in this
I was surprised too
really hoping we see it one day in like a legends unova or something
@@Greenomb 434354333433334435e3334543344
Sizzlipede's and Skorupi's ancient ancestor could be Anorith and Armaldo! Anorith looks somewhat close to your interpretation of the ancestor's first stage.
less new pokemon tho
Mew
If you take lore inspiration into account , there should be a kind-hearted dragon type Gyarados.
And I'm going to pet it..
some people have always believed that dragonite and gyarados flipped spots in the pokedex (gen 1 was kind of weird with stuff like that and butterfree/venomoth) and that magikarp was to evolve into dragonite originally and dragonair into gyarados
I love the theory that all of the fossil Pokemon are only near approximations of their original forms. The reason they all have rock type is because they are still partially still fossils. I would love to see true forms of them via some sort of time travel mechanic. As Scarlet and Violet seem to be trying to do both past and future, I doubt they will dive too deeply into ancient Pokemon as it would favor Scarlet over Violet.
Now, if they do another Legends style game, we could see a time rift with new forms of the fossils.
Mega Aerodactyl is apparently more true to it's original self iirc
"the reason they are ALL rock types"
Gen8 fossils: are you sure about that?
@@henriquealves3086 The theory was before gen 8, but it could be that combining 2 different fossils provides enough extra genetic material to not be part fossil/rock.
@@godlyeffect8504 yup
Well that's true. Didn't someone mention how the process was still being worked on in the earlier gens? Maybe by later the process was improved.
It would be nice to see them further explore the ancestral forms of Pokémon like they did with the Hisuian forms of some of the modern Pokémon like Voltorb
Dunno if it’s been mentioned already but the Magikarp entry makes me think of the alpha Magikarp in PLA, because it is far stronger than regular Karp, but still easy to deal with. Thus only being slightly stronger.
Although, theres still normal Magikarp, so this old Magikarp has to be before LA, maybe atleast 300 years before?
My theory is someone encountered Basculegion and misidentified as Magikarp.
i think it would be cool if they do a reverse Magikarp/Gyarados thing where the olden time Magikarp was its stronger form and got weaker when it evolved
@@evenhartwick4422 but nobody would ever evolve it, Plus eviolite
I'm pretty disappointed we didn't get an Ancient Gastrodon in Hisui since that would have made most sense
One other interesting form (if it counts as one) that has been mentioned in the Pokedex is 3 headed Weezing. "Though very rare, triplets have been found" according to multiple of its dex entries. That'd be cool to see.
Koffing, Weezing, Chokking
dyying
@@HistoryandReviews that should be an extra evo like Annihilape or Kingambit
@@IkanaMaskedMan yeah. And maybe it has a crown as a play on choking snd ChoKING
They could have did it like they did with Dudunsparce
For the Arbok forms, they could implement it by the pokemon's nature. There are (currently) 24 different natures that a pokemon can have, and the pokedex entry says that there are 'over twenty' different variations, so it could line up nicely with the pokemon's nature. It could also encourage breeding to find all the different types
Adding onto that idea, it could also be IV dependent, which could make it 24 variations + the additional 6 that is IV dependent combinations
problem is mints etc
@@nigelschonberger8022 mints dont actually overwrite the true nature, they just cover it with another so this really isnt the issue it might look to be
I remember the Dark Arbok from the old pokemon cards, it had a different pattern on it's chest
@@nigelschonberger8022 actually no, because changing a pokemon's nature with mints doesn't actually change nature, just the bonuses. for breeding purposes they still have their original one, and Toxtricity doesn't change form on using a mint either.
I kind of hope Scarlet and Violet explore this type of stuff in DLC given what we have seen so far in game thanks to Scarlet with a few select Pokémon.
Was really hoping to see Cubone on this list. Cubone is so intriguing because the entire concept of the Pokémon is the trauma of its parent dying. What would this Pokémon be without that traumatic experience? The Dex entry implies that such a thing exists. Of course most of us think that goes into Kangaskhan. But still we don’t see the baby in the pouch as it’s own Pokémon and would be nice to finally have that connection more cannon.
It's strange, too, because we can, since Gen 2, produce Cubones whose parents are definitely _not_ dead.
In the anime there was an episode where all of Kanto's/the city's (can't remember which) Magnemite joined together to create a giant eye-looking hive mind. Leading up to the conclusion of the episode Professor Cerise theorised they were about to evolve into something before being halted, that could link to the magnezone evolution somehow
With Magnezone it’s more likely they tried to make it evolve beyond the natural limits of Pokémon possibly by making into a new subspecies or mega evolution.
Idk a recent Pokémon episode a wave from the sun made 1000 magnemite grouping up and almost evolved before ash stopped them
@@thebigl4855 sounds like an alternative evolution to Magnemite rather than Magnezone though.
@@thebigl4855 Was it a recent episode??
@@thebigl4855 Ash had to ruin everything smh. We could have had a megamagneton and he had to get in the way of progress
@@thebigl4855someone really needs to make a what if where that succeeds
In addition for Dreepy (since I know this video was released before SV came out), its Violet dex entry states
"It has a habit of biting at Clauncher even though it doesn't feed on them. This is said to be vestigial behavior from when Dreepy was alive."
Meaning that it was a predator that preyed upon Clauncher (and likely its evolutions hunted Clawitzer). This also means that Clauncher existed during the same time period as Dreepy's prehistoric form.
I'd love more "side evolutions". Like how Scizor and Scyther have the same BST, just differently arranged.
Technically Scyther can have way more since it can make use of Eviolite.
@@TheJetsetter That doesn't change the BST total🤦♂️
One thing about Mikon (Baby Vulpix)
Is that it's three tails are growing out from a single tail, so it still fits that early pokedex entry.
If Poipole is a starter, the most likely scenario is that its counterparts are Grass and Ground-type to make a trio. Poison beats Grass, which beats Ground, which beats Poison.
Though it isn’t necessary that they have a starter trio, could be a duo or even just Poipole
@@matheussandbakk9959 yes
@@matheussandbakk9959 I did say "most likely". Trios are generally favored, but there's no reason why they'd need to be a requirement.
I've always just theory crafted the look of the other starters and also had the idea of the Grass, Ground and Poison core. But based on the Poipole evolving to Naganadel, it is essentially a big Bee or Beedrill haha. So I considered maybe the grass starter will be like a bird ultra beast resembling Fearow and the ground starter will be represented by a large rat as in Raticate. All of them evolve into Dragon types so each starter can fight back against the other.
@@minaashido518 Yeah like many Pokemon games only have one Starter or Two, however I’m pretty sure only Yellow and Let’s Go has the starter actually given by an actual Professor. In XD: Gale of Darkness, we know Eevee isn’t given by the region’s professor, but rather Michael’s (the progatonist) father
You forgot dunsparce. In its Sword dex entry it says "This Pokémon's tiny wings have some scientists saying that Dunsparce used to fly through the sky in ancient times" this suggests another form
Haha you’d be suprised now to see it’s evolution
@@ryanrustvold5367 oh goodness... just found out about dudunsparce
...
I dont personally like it but oh well
@@capuchinosofia4771 basically bigger or something?
....it has tiny wings and it problably ised to fly. But due to evolution it has no reason to fly since it landed in a place where (in his generation) its easier to burrow underground and rravel than fly. Because of the mountains.
Never said it looked different.
Dunsparce has its wings. He just stopped using them he didnt look different.
@@phantom_servant7980 L O N G D U N S P A R C E
I don't think it's official canon, but there's a cool theory about Graveller/Golem swapping DNA with Machoke/Machamp when they trade. Hence Machamp having Graveller's extra arms and Golem gaining Machoke's lizard head. So I wonder what a un-spliced third evolution for these lines would look like?
I heard this before too, but its not like you have to trade a graveler for a machoke to evolve both. The gen 1 creators probably thought something like the dna swapping stuff would be cool but ultimately decided to scrap it, since you can see some resmblance to this in escavalier/accelgor.
I remember hearing theories that the red lines on Machoke's arms are its muscles expanding to accomodate for their increased physical power, which likely fits into this theory as well: Machoke gets dna from Graveler to solve the excess power issue by growing extra arms, however I fail to see how exactly getting Machoke dna affects Golem.
(also I'm unsure how Alolan Graveler/Golem fits into the equation)
@@SonnyFRST Five months later but-- it doesn't necessarily have to be an advantage, it could just be something that happens if they're just shuffling dna by accident. It doesn't give it any advantages, but you can definitely see how it would fit - it loses the extra arms and gains lizardlike features that it didn't have in its first two evolutions. Much like mutations in actual creatures, dna errors don't necessarily have to have an -advantage- to be visible!
@@vivaldi_is_dreaming Well if we're speaking strictly about reptilian features, Golem's exterior is actually a shell sort of like a turtle.
Poipole is probably not a traditional 1-of-3 starter, based solely on the typing and fact that it is a two stage evolution Pokemon. It's more likely that Poipole is like the Pikachu of its world, where it wasn't the normal starter but is very popular and counted among the starters due to a special circumstance.
Except instead of evolving into a cute larger version of itself, it becomes a giant nightmare elmar's glue wasp.
@@SolstaceWinters This is Pokémon, where a salamander with a candle for a tail can become a giant not-dragon. That's not the most bizzare transformation in my book.
Not only did Gastrodon have a huge shell, but it (and Shellos) only ever diverged into two forms when Mount Coronet divided them, so historically there was a single variant of Gastrodon with a shell, which may or may not have lost it before its descendants diverged
This is neat to think about when you realize that Legends:Arceus has Mt Coronet so the original form of Gastrodon was WAY back
This is also neat because it follows a real life type of evolution called allopatric speciation
@@cgomes9987 I was just thinking about that but since they can still breed they didn't become two difference species according to the Biological Species Concept.
@@thomasL275 evolution is very gradual. Before becoming different species, they will always become two different sub species. But the differences in the sub species is still a result of evolution
@@cgomes9987 Thats true. I guess you could say they are undergoing allopatric speciation, but they have yet to speciate.
I think the PLA entry for Parasect is referring to Parasect corpses, with the soft mushroom having been eaten by other pokemon or withered/rotten away and leaving only an (empty) exoskeleton (hence unmoving. They could even still be twitching or otherwise moving depending on how their nerve system works). Mushroom-less Paras might be a thing, if there was a way to prevent the mushroom spores from infecting the paras egg/embryo/baby.
And I see Poipole more like an early-game bird/rodent/bug or Eevee than part of a starter set. Compared to the rest of the known ultra beasts, Poipole is a cute, easy to handle and relatively safe option to start with.
Poipole is also the only Ultra Beast (besides the Legendaries) to evolve.
Agree with Paras/Parasect, but, cannot agree with the Poipole part.
Poipole is actually to strong to be an early-route mon to catch. In reality, I feel like Poipole might actually have a pre-evolution we have never seen, as Poipole is as strong as MID level evolutions. Meanwhile, Naganadel is comparative in strength to the final stages of starters, not the final stages of early-route mons.
Paras actually can take off their mushrooms and pass it to other paras like how Hermit crabs pass their shells as seen in the anime
@@forgerofsouls9126 You also have to keep in mind that in their own world the Ultra Beasts are super common (save for Guzzlord I think). So trying to gauge the strength of an UB homeworld with the strength of Pokemon's world is quite flawed I would think. Poipole could easily be an early route mon in its homeworld. It could be quite weak at home (as evident that it lives in nests like an insect hive) but is quite strong outside of it.
@@callmesilver2683 just cause its in the anime doesn’t necessarily mean that they can, if it hasn’t been shown in the games then that’s not confirmed
In the Journeys anime there was an episode of a ton of Magnemite combining together and was going to create a new evolution. I mean 1000s of them! It was nuts. It didn’t happen but it was cool.
The mushroomless specimens lying unmoving on the forest floor are probably either dead or molted shells.
I feel like a Porygon3 (coming out of Porygon2) could be really cool. Whilst still keeping the same colour scheme, it could look like a regular animal (duck?)/pokemon, perfecting what it was originally meant to be.
I think i would be a cool idea to create Porygon that actually fulfill thei purposes. So a space traveling and a dimension hopping Porygon.
A pink and blue typical bird in a duck type form but implies the graphics did improve so Porygon 3 is a switch graphics pink and blue duck.
I say Porygon3 would look similar to porygon2 but more aerodynamic so it can travel to space.
Interestingly enough you can see Paras remove their Mushrooms in the first Anime Season, alongside several other flopped over Paras with their Shrooms already removed. This suggests that despite the Pokédex often depicting the relation between the Tochucaso and Paras/Parasect as parasitic, it actually appears that the Pokémon fully depends on the Mushroom to survive and reproduce, making the relationship more of a symbiotic kind.
Um, the shroom has apparently taken over parasect so...
@@adrianmcbride1666 Yes, but as Laventon's Pokédex Entry implies, it also absolutely needs that Mushroom to do literally anything, because if it develops without one, it just dies.
The way I see it is that Paras insect has a mutualistic relationship with the Paras fungi (like the fungi does most of the digestion and aids the insect's movement by being embedded in its muscles), whereas in Parasect the fungi acts more like a parasitoid and effectively takes over all the functions of the insect.
@@LuxurioMusicparasect has dead eyes too. The pupils are gone
Paras likely can do things on its own, the mushroom hasn't taken over it yet, and the fact that they're *Parasects* that lie immobile in forests, so Paras can survive and even reproduce on its own (there wouldn't be many mushroomless Paras otherwise), it's only when it evolves into Parasect that it actually needs the mushroom
I'd like the idea of there being a "Paradox" magikarp in some future DLC with features of Mega Gyarados
I’m surprised there isn’t one considering the Violet Pokédex entry for it references the past version of Magikarp.
What about the ancient Tao Dragon?
We know that Kyurem, Reshiram and Zekrom were originally one Pokemon. When the brothers it followed grew apart, it ripped itself apart to follow them both, leaving it's body behind in the form of Kyurem.
We also know that Kyurem can absorb Zekrom and Reshiram back to regain it's powers. But we have only seen it absorb one of them.
I personally hope that we get to see it in the Gen 5 remakes
For the Paras/Parasect entries, I took it as baby versions don't have mushrooms just like how baby vulpix has 1 tail. The mushroomless Parasects sound like it dying/shedding and leaving behind a husk. This could mean a 3rd evolution where the Mushroom comes to life or a ghost version of Parasect.
Perhaps Paras shares an ancestor with Nincada (as they're both cicadas), which could allow for a rare ghost evolution.
Interesting. I read the Parasect entry in that they were simply stating that the mushroom less versions are unmoving because the mushroom was removed and so they are essentially brain dead. Though that could be to your point in that the mushroom grew strong enough so that it no longer needs the bug to exist. Maybe this could end up being similar to Ninjask where the Parasect could become a new Shedninja.
Ooh name it Sector 😂😂
@@n00blar2006 exactly. This would far be the first pokemon do evolve Vai death. My most recent favorite is Annihilape
Hear me out........could those mushrooms be toedscool
@@jarviscooper3215 I would say they are too big and a different kind of Mushroom. But if slowpoke can evolve by fusing with another pokemon idk why paras cant
The Magikarp would even predate Hisui since we saw regular Magikarp there. Would love to see a Porygon 3 but it would need to be of similar stats to Porygon Z to be fair. Maybe a more defensive version
it could also be just a regional variant too. leaves possibility for a gyrados variant too without it being all over the world, it being more op than the normal one it already wreaks havoc regularly?
Or mayve Porygon 3 could be an evolution to Porygon Z, by purging the virus. And then its stats could either be an *extremely* offensive attacker or make it into a flat out *wall* of defensiveness
I'm thinking for the poipole one, the other starters types are grass and ground, poison-->grass-->ground, they are the only type matchups I could think of so it's interesting to me
THANK YOU for bringing attention to Gastrodon!! I have always had that entry in the back of my mind! I wish we could get a variant OR. A 3rd evolution! It’s one of my faves! 😍
Here's another thought. Since Poipole is a starter, maybe where it's from there's an item meant to help it and its other starters to evolve to a third state.;)
In a similar vein to Arbok, one of the pokedex entries for mantyke states that they have different back patterns depending on the region where the mantyke is found.
the spindula pokemon actually have different patterns in gen 3. I wish they'd do the same with the other pokemon that they mention having multiple patterns
Great video! Another thing to consider are the Gen 8 fossile fragment pokémon (I hate them so much). There are 4 Pokémon (I think it were 4?) hidden right there and mutilated beyond any recognition.
It's hypothesized that the reverse-fossilization process adds rock typing to prehistoric Pokemon.
If so, Kabutops and Genesect could share an original forme as well.
Also, where did you get the prehistoric Genesect art? It looks sick.
There's also the original forms of the other Prehistoric Pokémon (and I'm not just talking about the _Sword_ and _Shield_ shenanigans). Tyrantrum and Aerodactyl's Pokédex entries indicate there's a glitch in the resurrection process that results in the clones not appearing exactly as they were in-life.
Unfortunately, the Paras situation would be a much harder situation to fix. Even if in the earliest pokemon game chronologically the baby-est Paras don't *seem* to have mushrooms yet, that's because the spores haven't yet grown. They are still there, just haven't become visible to the human eye.
Well if you see a mushroom, that is a fruiting body, with the rest of the mycelium being underneath. So the mycelium are present within the host organism before you see a mushroom
Along the lines of “ancient form pokemon”I was really hoping we’d get “Prime Pokémon” which was their ancient or original forms like the fossil Pokémon without the rock typing (or like Gastro) and see what they were like back when they roamed the world
You missed the point of the Magnezone and Parasect entries. The Magnezone entry is just their way of reinforcing the "3 stage is max stage" rule. The Parasect entry is just stating that the mushroom has moved on and left behind a husk/corpse of the adult paras. Either due to being eaten by something else, or the host dying outright. The Paras entry doesn't state "IF" just when. So the real story behind the Paras line is that they're entire species are just doomed to forever sprout mind control mushrooms and die.
I will never forget in Pokémon yellow/red/blue when that random dude in Misty's city tell you that Raichu you traded him went off and evolved.
I remember that. I hope GameFreak remembers that eventually...
I’ve wanted a porygon-3 for years, would be such a cool mon
Me too, me too
If you think about porygon should have so many branch offs and extra installments like theyre iPhones or something.
@@PaintedHoundie that’s what they did to my guy rotom
@@PaintedHoundie Introducing the New Porygon-14 Ultra
But, like, doesn't it already exist? Team Rocket made it, then it was saved, it's programming changed, so it wouldn't be forced to do evil things, and then it became Porygon Z. But Team Rocket called their form Porygon 3
In a really cool episode of the anime, magnemite almost evolved into a new giant sized pokemon that required fusing hundreds of magnemites together who had to first charge themselves with an entire city of electricity.
I really hope that we're getting more paradox Pokémon in future DLCs. There are so many Dreepy in Area Zero, I was so disappointed there was no paradox form of it.
I feel like the paras prevo would have been a great way to show a Pokémon using a parasitic mushroom as a den that eventually takes over the host. This could be seen as a pure bug time originally and when it evolves and is taken over it gains the grass typing to reflect the internal change.
Maybe Magnazone was an early reference to Mega Evolution.
Yeah the Gen 5 remakes may update the dex entry to mention mega evolution.
its a shame more of the "ancient pokemon" mentioned weren't implemented in arceus and/or scarlet.
With the Dreepy line it could actually imply 2 possible alternate Pokemon. What it was like in the distant past, but also a possible Fossil Pokemon variant. Probably Rock/Dragon if following the classic Fossil Pokemon trend.
With that thought process you could maybe include all the Fossil Pokemon on this list if you follow theory that the reviving process isn't perfect and alters their appearence. (Most noteably woth Aerodactyl)
Also facinating going back and watching these months or years after they were originally uploaded. Seeing what predictions come true or not.
Surprised you didn't mention Complete Kyurem, the form before Reshiram and Zekrom fissioned off from it
Yeah, the “original” dragon or whatever. I could’ve sworn it was brought up more than once in the games.
EDIT: I don’t think it’s mentioned in the Pokédex, though.
That one's tricky because Kyurem wasn't designed with fusion in mind so it might be only retroactively connected to the others
Dreepy was definitely a diplocaulus and that’s cool as hell!
Drippy line is IMO one of the best pokemon ideas ever:
It's a combination of an EXTINCT amphibian fused with B-2 "SPIRIT" bomber.
It self explains itself
Paradox Pokémon from the past interest me more because there’s a chance to see these lore entries and current fossil Pokémon in their true forms
Toxicroak and Seismatoad were mentioned to be similar species in the Sword and Shield Pokedex entries, which kinda implies that them and their pre-evolutions are likey more closely related to each other than they are to other amphibian Pokemon, such as the Poliwag line or Mudkip line( which mostly based off of Axolotls), their ancestors could have even diverged into the Pokemon that would eventually become them or at least co existed alongside each other.
I think you mean wooper, not poliwag. But yeah, I agree!
I think that the idea of a whole game utilizing the Ultra Beasts as an entire Dex would be amazing. Maybe it could have a futuristic look to it mainly with the region or World you would be exploring underwent a cataclysm centuries earlier that mashed all the Ultra Worlds together into the region you explore. It would be a messy idea to organize, sure but I wouldn't expect it until at least Sun/Moon/US/UM remakes come out, it could be their Legends Arceus title, Legends Necrozma or something, maybe make the big light dragon the centerpiece of why the world is the way it is. Hell it could even be Ultramegaopolis or whatever it was as the main/starting town
All of the ultra beast designs are incredibly creative and interesting. I'd love a whole dex
Makes sense about Dreepy, it's form greatly resembles the giant prehistoric salamander Diplocaulus.
Some of these are a stretch.
The dex entry for Magnezone says the attempt to evolve it failed, so there is no evolution that ever existed.
Corphish just got imported from another region as it is and it spread its numbers. There’s no suggestion it’s a different form. It’s like taking a Bulbasaur from Kanto and putting it in the wild in Sinnoh - it’s not native to the region but there’s no regional form
I think the Paras dex entry isn't meant to imply a fungus-less Paras, and rather that other Pokemon eat the fungus (likely Stantler, which inhabit the same areas).
Can't believe... The true dragon wasn't mentioned in this video, it's really one of the other most commonly known secret pokemon since it is a huge plot point in B/W/B2/W2
commonly known secret... like vegan meat... cold fire...
Commonly known “secret Pokémon”
Maaan, they really should've used that Magikarp entry when they made Legends Arceus. Hisuian-Magikarp with beefy stats, then turn Gyarados into a proper psuedo-legendary.
I'm pretty sure the Hisuian Pokédex entry for Parasect "lying motionless" is saying that if you remove the tochukaso mushroom from its back, it goes brain-dead and stops moving.
Earlier dex entries for Paras say that the spores are scattered on it at birth. The juveniles without the mushrooms probably still have a mycelium network growing through their bodies.
I think there’s a chance for dreepys past form to be seen in scarlet/ violet. They have been confirmed in the latest trailer, and they did reveal the past / future forms of pokemon.
The game's been datamined, so the answer is already out there. If you're trying to go in spoiler free, be careful.
@@EitherProductions yeah I’m avoiding spoilers as much as possible
Are we sure Dreepy isn't just Armaldo?
@@jacobblanton5179 typing doesn’t match.also dragapult doesn’t have big claws like armaldo. They’ve also never shared a region
I mean, genesect has the basic body shape and head shape as Kabutops. Especially with their mention of it being ancient, I’m fairly certain it is meant to be a Kabutops.
Hopefully in the future we get a mega evolution type of mechanic that makes Pokémon robotic like the future Pokémon in scarlet
Never knew the Pokedex has so many secret Pokemon
Seeing Corphish and Crawdaunt having “hidden” forms makes me happy, as those two are among my favorite Hoenn Pokémon.
I bet you loved when their hidden ability made them actually GOOD
I remember in an episode of Pokemon Journeys there was a million Magnetons gathering in the air and the Professor said that the Magnetons were about to make a hypothetical "rare and long lost evolution"
I don't wanna hunt to see if someone has mentioned this already, but I've always postulated that Paras is a parasitic-mushroom-infected Nincada since both are derived from real-world cicada nymphs. I imagine the "unmoving Parasect" is just the chitinous remains after the mushroom has decomposed.
The pokedex entry for magnizone can be explained easily by them referencing the next game's generation's gimmick bring mega evolution. We know gamefreak plans these games years in advance so it's not out of the realm of possibility that, they could have originally planed a mega magnizone but ultimately scraped it in development leaving this as the only reference.
the “shelder” on slowpokes tail I believe is mentioned to be a different mon.
Even so it doesn’t look like a shelder
11:00 It could also be that the series does actually acknowledge the concept of Pokemon evolving naturally and growing more gradually rather than just magically transforming from one form to the next.This could imply that evolution as we know it is either merely a narrative device or that Pokemon can do both
I always viewed it as in the distant past (prehistoric maybe) magikarp had a much stronger form aka gyrados. And it essentially devolved over time into the weak thing it is today, but luckily it can still evolve into its strong form again with training and experience
One more. Scarlet and Violet have past paradox forms, they should have made an ancient Magikarp. Boosted stats, good typing, even make it good competitively! It would have been awesome!
The paradox pokemon as such a wasted concept. Could have had magikarp, genesect, dreepy, the SwSh fossils, ect. Even the future ones could have had a stable Porygon Z.
Y'know, there is that goldfish legendary. So maybe that's where Magi descended from?
@@bradleythomas3 ok
If the alternate universe also has 3 starter Pokémon, with Poipole being one of them, and if they also form a rock-paper-scissors relationship, then we can assume the group consists of a Ground type, a Grass type and Poipole.
If they are also equal in power level and evolve just once, then we can deduce there is an evolution for these implied Pokémon that may or may not add a secondary type.
Considering Naganadel's secondary Dragon type also having an advantage over Grass type, then the Grass type's secondary type (if any), might be Water or Ice for the offensive advantage over Ground starter; Bug or Flying for the resistances. Though I think Ice is unlikely because it would give Grass starter an advantage over both other starters and, while that isn't unheard of (Sinnoh starters, for example), I think it's not a good idea.
The Ground type starter's second type (if any) would be Psychic (offensive advantage); Rock, Steel or Ghost (resistances). We know Naganadel is part Dragon type, so we can also use that to deduce any other type that may be added when taking Naganadel into account. That would add Ice as a possibility.
The hypothetical starter trio would be:
1- Naganadel
2- One of the following:
Grass
Grass/Water
Grass/Ice
Grass/Bug
Grass/Flying
3- One of these:
Ground
Ground/Rock
Ground/Steel
Ground/Ghost
Ground/Ice
What about Ground/Fairy for an immunity, just like Grass/Flying has?
My favorite is the stuff pertaining to Drowzee and Musharna line.
From Drowzee in Stadium and FireRed it states: The drowzee line are descendants of a legendary animal named Baku.
In addition for Drowzee in Sun: It is considered to share common ancestry with Munna and Musharna.
So this implies there is a pokemon, named Baku, like the same one from yokai myths, that might have existed long ago.
That's fascinating, because one of them can float and the other has to walk around. Maybe it's due to the influence they have on dreams? Maybe the Baku Pokemon has different forms depending on what it does with the dreams, switched by an ability or a move like with Aegislash.
I think the Corphish line and its regional variant parallels invasive species irl, especially with the line about it greatly increasing its population. A lot of invasive species have to change and adapt to new environments they’re brought into, mimicking evolutionary traits of species around it. I’d be curious to check their catch rates to see if similar to irl they overpopulate areas and start killing off native species either by predation or more commonly food competition. Little swamp nerd rant there but it’s an interesting concept to bring up in Pokémon
The Dreepy thing is actually also because its based on a real extinct lizard. None of the fossilized specimens have had surviving tails which is why the tail part of the Dreepy line is the most ghost like.
I think a cooler concept would be another game set in the past but in ancient times, and instead of any technology you had to "befriend" any pokemon you wanted to join you and you keep like cave paintings of what the pokemon do as pokedex entries
For magnezone maybe they were hinting at a possible mega evolution that got scrapped?
It would also be cool to see “regional variants” of porygon, where you can get different “upgrade” items for it depending on what region you’re in.
Region exclusive items to evolve or change the forms of Pokémon like rotom and sinistea would be interesting too.
Since Magikarp is based off a koi that became a dragon I think the stronger version of Magikarp and it's evolution should be dragon type to be a bigger nod to the inspiration to the pair, and maybe have this unseen Magikarp and it's evolution have different colorations if it's found in different areas as a nod to koi fish having so many colorations themselves.
Magikarp does have plenty of colorations thanks to Magikarp Jump. Just transfer them over to a new game.
The poipole entry was what I expected this video to be not a video about possible other forms or non-existent evolutions
It shocks me how much you sound like poketips lol.
That is a good thing! Love your narration and plenty of details on subjects.
Keep it up! Earned my sub 💯
Would been dope if for Scarlet/Violet DLC they add these as Paradox Pokémon
I've never really been a fan of the theory that Genesect is an altered Kabutops, because a lot of people seem to gloss over that one is a horseshoe crab, and the other is a Hymenoptera of unknown species.
technically the evolution of magnezone is not a secret pokemon as they didn't get it to evolve but it still fits the list
Just want to drop a comment, I think you mis-interpreted the Parasect Pokedex entry. I think it meant that it was left unmoving because the mushroom was gone (possibly eaten by another Pokémon) and so it stayed there unmoving and dead. Hence giving credence to the idea that the Pokémon is controlled by the mushroom, since without the mushroom it was basically dead. I am also of the opinion that newborn Paras are not born without the mushrooms, but much like in mushroom that are still basically just a spore, the mushrooms haven't grown enough to be visible on the Pokémon, as they haven't broken through the outer shell, and every Paras that is born has thos spores on it.
I think the dex entry of Poipole is trying to say it's like along the lines a pigdey or rattata. at least that's what I'm taking from it.
If there’s anything I want to see, it’s the original Galar fossil Pokemon. We were SO close to having 4 new dinosaurs, but they just had to mix them 🥲
If none of those pokémon come out on the next DLC wave, at least Gamefreak got a whole lot of ideas for new pokémon/regional forms from this video.
you talked about corpish being the first regional form as it is imported from another region, but I'd like to add two things: the first is that it may not have changed form after being imported, and the second is that this has likely happened before. in gen 1, there are pokémon that can only be found in the safari zone and nowhere else. this indicates that those pokemon are not originally from kanto, and were brought over and kept in a nature preserve, to not disrupt kanto's ecology -- like they do in real life zoos. so those may very well be the first regional forms, or at least the first pokémon that were introduced in a region that's not their original region, just like corpish. pinsir is a pokémon that gives credit to this theory, since it's based on a real life bug that lives in deserts and there are no deserts in kanto. scyther, in its turn, exists in hisui and has a different evolution, so we can assume that's its original region.
The magikarp now feels like a missed opportunity for scarlet and violet
I love the arbok patterns. Hope to get a regional