A real shame more aren’t flying! I saw this crop up a few times in and out of Cambridge over the past few years. Looks like the service has been cut right back now with even Manchester dropped.
Reminds me of a twin engined BAe146 - I used to fly regularly in Germany years ago in a twin prop very square bodied Dornier, a 228 I think, the pilot was separated from the cabin by a sliding door which was invariably left open in those days - you could literally tap the pilot on the shoulder when in the front seats.
Annoyingly I didn't get a notification of your new video last week so I'm only seeing it now. In terms of service it's like the good old days of flying. So nice that the flight attendant announced she had the pleasure of looking after your safety and comfort. The Dornier 328 is a nice aircraft- I flew Dundee-London City a few times onboard Scot Airways Dornier 328 Turboprop before they were bought by Loganair.
I’ve had a few people say this. TH-cam being TH-cam I guess but glad the video still popped up somewhere you could see it! Was the turbo prop version much different to the jet?
The plane doesn’t have or need thrust reversers, the relative lightness and full flap landing speed is slow enough for the manual brakes. Great video btw and happy belated birthday and enjoy your retirement to your dad.
Its like a more modern, 2 engine version of the Bae 146 / Avro RJ. Those aircraft also didn't have thrust reversers and could easily rely on just the brakes.
Awww...pops is having a grand time. I agree, good use of Avios points - the higher the cash fare the better the redemption value of Avios. Food is definitely more than what you used to get on BA mainline back in the days of complimentary catering. Thank you for sharing a lovely trip report. Imagine flying from LCY airport to SYD, Australia on that. I reckon you'd make at least 20 stops along the way (10,500 miles ÷ 20 = 525 miles per average sector) taking approx 51hrs including time on the ground ❤
Thanks so much for the great comment :) 😂 you’d certainly get your fair share of take offs and landings there! Might be a tad much to sit there for 51 hours
I've done that flight, though mine was Manchester to Billund. I love the window they had into the cockpit. It didn't see that there on your flight video.
@@JTsJourneys I didn't see a windows in the footage from the one on your flight. The flight I had did, so I assume it was a different airplane (same type). A big square windows looking into the flight deck. This was several years ago, so they could have changed them for more security by now.
Engines on the 328 do have reversers but they are such a light wieght aircraft that they have alot more runway left as the stopping distance is far less than usual aircraft, hense only need auto brakes.👍
I saw a 328 at Manchester airport in about 2017, I didn't recognise the aircraft type so did some googling to identify it and the route it was flying. I was going to book flights to Billund just for the flight experience but ended up emigrating abroad so never got the chance to try it. Great video, I enjoyed watching your flight.
Thank you! I think Manchester was the first place I saw it too, really rare to see it there back then. Anything good and interesting to fly where you are now?
@@JTsJourneys I haven't seen any interesting civilian aircraft here in the part of Cyprus where I live but we get quite a few military. At the moment we have Ospreys whizzing around quite a lot. Flying on anything interesting is pretty much out of the question, it's mainly budget airlines and tour operators.
6:08 assuming this is one way? So £41+£95 (9500 avios) = £136 for a return Assuming that comes with a cabin sized bag too? Taking into account LCY may be a cheaper and easier airport for you to get to, and is a fun niche experience it really is decent value! Assuming that price is available on lots of dates too. You can probably get a £20-£30 one way or £60 return on ryanair, on select dates at wacky times of day months before booking, but add cabin bags (if for more than a few days), a drink/snack on board, a return coach/stansted express/parking/cab you're probably not saving much at all, good to know!
Yes all one way and includes a cabin bag and laptop bag. I thought it was good value, certainly worth it for the novelty factor of getting to fly onboard this aircraft. I flew back into Heathrow later that day for around £100, Ryanair were only £15 but the hassle of Stansted to South London really isn't worth the saving!
Billund is a small Danish town of about 7,000 people. It is the town where LEGO was founded. The main LEGO headquarters are still there, along with the first LEGO-Land as well as a new tourist attraction called LEGO House. Billund Airport was founded by LEGO in the 1960s as a private airport for their business jets, but later became a public airport that is now Denmark's second-biggest.
They did. At it's opening they used car headlights as runway lights. It's basically the airport for Jutland, and very centrally located for Jutland. Has gradually taken over from nearby Esbjerg, I've flown into both. Give you an idea of how quiet Esbjerg has become, I remember being woken by check-in staff when the Aberdeen check in opened, having fallen asleep. Maybe only two other flights that day and there were only about 10 people in the Terminal. Billund by contrast is quite a major international airport.
@@colinmacdonald5732 I wouldn't say it's the "airport for Jutland". There are at least three or four additional international airports in Jutland (Aalborg, Midtjylland, Aarhus) with daily flights to several countries.
@@southernairsYou can book this for just 4750 avios. You can buy 10k avios via BA for £195 which means a return ticket is £200 as apposed to £600. I use my avios to fly on this from Manchester.
Better enjoy it as i hear new rules regarding travel permits come. I planned a last trip to heathrow before the British ETA comes into effect 2nd april 2025 for mainland europeans.
Nice to see, and for the £ per Avios, one of the best value redemptions out there! In my world, Meraki is an IT networking product made by Cisco - never heard of the soap thought!
@@JTsJourneys we flew back from Majorca airport yesterday - a “full English” breakfast (if you can even call it that) was £15.50 each!! It was pitiful.
not worth it is it! In an airport now more often than not I'll try and grab a Greggs landslide before I go through, anywhere abroad some sort of toast / panini is my go to but even they can take the mick these days
@@JTsJourneys I did some work with Lego in the 90s which meant a lot of flights from Manchester to Billund! Sometimes we were the only ones on the flight!
Love those little planes. Have flown them a few times from Cambridge to Gothenburg
A real shame more aren’t flying! I saw this crop up a few times in and out of Cambridge over the past few years. Looks like the service has been cut right back now with even Manchester dropped.
Reminds me of a twin engined BAe146 - I used to fly regularly in Germany years ago in a twin prop very square bodied Dornier, a 228 I think, the pilot was separated from the cabin by a sliding door which was invariably left open in those days - you could literally tap the pilot on the shoulder when in the front seats.
Sounds like the good old days!
Dornier 228s operate from Southampton to Alderney, on a 30 minute flight.
Really good to watch a positive travel blogger, keep doing it.
Thank you! Appreciate that a lot
Great trip report. Wish I could take that flight! Thank you.
Thank you!
Annoyingly I didn't get a notification of your new video last week so I'm only seeing it now. In terms of service it's like the good old days of flying. So nice that the flight attendant announced she had the pleasure of looking after your safety and comfort. The Dornier 328 is a nice aircraft- I flew Dundee-London City a few times onboard Scot Airways Dornier 328 Turboprop before they were bought by Loganair.
I’ve had a few people say this. TH-cam being TH-cam I guess but glad the video still popped up somewhere you could see it! Was the turbo prop version much different to the jet?
The plane doesn’t have or need thrust reversers, the relative lightness and full flap landing speed is slow enough for the manual brakes. Great video btw and happy belated birthday and enjoy your retirement to your dad.
Thank you! I'll pass that onto my Dad :)
Its like a more modern, 2 engine version of the Bae 146 / Avro RJ. Those aircraft also didn't have thrust reversers and could easily rely on just the brakes.
Having flown both the 146 I think is quite a bit bigger
@@JTsJourneys plus the 146 does have a rear speed brake as part of the fuselage
Awww...pops is having a grand time. I agree, good use of Avios points - the higher the cash fare the better the redemption value of Avios. Food is definitely more than what you used to get on BA mainline back in the days of complimentary catering. Thank you for sharing a lovely trip report. Imagine flying from LCY airport to SYD, Australia on that. I reckon you'd make at least 20 stops along the way (10,500 miles ÷ 20 = 525 miles per average sector) taking approx 51hrs including time on the ground ❤
Thanks so much for the great comment :) 😂 you’d certainly get your fair share of take offs and landings there! Might be a tad much to sit there for 51 hours
Just been on a ATR 72 TO Belfast and loved the BA AVRO RJ 100 To Madrid from MAN, Happy birthday Dad...
Thanks! RJ and the ATR are much bigger aircraft
I've done that flight, though mine was Manchester to Billund. I love the window they had into the cockpit. It didn't see that there on your flight video.
I wanted to LCY-BLL-MAN but that stopped back before summer. They have a window ??? I missed this
@@JTsJourneys
I didn't see a windows in the footage from the one on your flight. The flight I had did, so I assume it was a different airplane (same type). A big square windows looking into the flight deck. This was several years ago, so they could have changed them for more security by now.
If I missed this I'm a bit gutted!
@@JTsJourneys I don't think you did based on your footage.
Engines on the 328 do have reversers but they are such a light wieght aircraft that they have alot more runway left as the stopping distance is far less than usual aircraft, hense only need auto brakes.👍
Thanks! Must have been light touch, was a gentle deceleration
Fantastic Video 👍👍Great time with your Dad ❤️❤️
Thank you 🤗
If I am not mistaken from power up to take off was about seven seconds!
around 20 seconds - full take off here th-cam.com/video/BKLz2hO0xW8/w-d-xo.html
I saw a 328 at Manchester airport in about 2017, I didn't recognise the aircraft type so did some googling to identify it and the route it was flying. I was going to book flights to Billund just for the flight experience but ended up emigrating abroad so never got the chance to try it. Great video, I enjoyed watching your flight.
Thank you! I think Manchester was the first place I saw it too, really rare to see it there back then. Anything good and interesting to fly where you are now?
@@JTsJourneys I haven't seen any interesting civilian aircraft here in the part of Cyprus where I live but we get quite a few military. At the moment we have Ospreys whizzing around quite a lot. Flying on anything interesting is pretty much out of the question, it's mainly budget airlines and tour operators.
Military stuff must be pretty decent to see
600 quid? You could go transatlantic for that! (Or a train from london to scotland!)
You could make it to Australia for that i think
6:08 assuming this is one way? So £41+£95 (9500 avios) = £136 for a return
Assuming that comes with a cabin sized bag too?
Taking into account LCY may be a cheaper and easier airport for you to get to, and is a fun niche experience it really is decent value!
Assuming that price is available on lots of dates too.
You can probably get a £20-£30 one way or £60 return on ryanair, on select dates at wacky times of day months before booking, but add cabin bags (if for more than a few days), a drink/snack on board, a return coach/stansted express/parking/cab you're probably not saving much at all, good to know!
Yes all one way and includes a cabin bag and laptop bag. I thought it was good value, certainly worth it for the novelty factor of getting to fly onboard this aircraft. I flew back into Heathrow later that day for around £100, Ryanair were only £15 but the hassle of Stansted to South London really isn't worth the saving!
I think a bit of background as to your destination would be good. As in Billund is basically Legoville? And does not even have a train station.
Thanks, I'll add that into the next video. I didn't;t really do any research before I went, and other than lego being based there that's all I knew.
Billund is a small Danish town of about 7,000 people. It is the town where LEGO was founded. The main LEGO headquarters are still there, along with the first LEGO-Land as well as a new tourist attraction called LEGO House. Billund Airport was founded by LEGO in the 1960s as a private airport for their business jets, but later became a public airport that is now Denmark's second-biggest.
I had no idea Lego built the airport!
They did. At it's opening they used car headlights as runway lights. It's basically the airport for Jutland, and very centrally located for Jutland. Has gradually taken over from nearby Esbjerg, I've flown into both. Give you an idea of how quiet Esbjerg has become, I remember being woken by check-in staff when the Aberdeen check in opened, having fallen asleep. Maybe only two other flights that day and there were only about 10 people in the Terminal. Billund by contrast is quite a major international airport.
@@colinmacdonald5732 I wouldn't say it's the "airport for Jutland". There are at least three or four additional international airports in Jutland (Aalborg, Midtjylland, Aarhus) with daily flights to several countries.
Let me know if you plan on trying out this niche flight on BA, I'd highly recommend it!
Love to try this out, but given paying up front is £300 return, I just can't justify it. But who knows!
silly money isn't it! I suspect a lot of this is business traffic therefore on the company card
@@southernairsYou can book this for just 4750 avios. You can buy 10k avios via BA for £195 which means a return ticket is £200 as apposed to £600. I use my avios to fly on this from Manchester.
Good tip for booking this cheaper
wow i thought these were retired i didnt know they were still flying
The last one in Europe (I think!|)
No reversers on those little fellas, they look smaller than the Textron helicopter engines on the 146 😁
I was thinking that, but I recon maybe these are a tad bigger than a 146. Certainly packed a punch anyway
Better enjoy it as i hear new rules regarding travel permits come.
I planned a last trip to heathrow before the British ETA comes into effect 2nd april 2025 for mainland europeans.
I think it’s a more or less reciprocal thing between 3rd countries as I understand it for next year?
Wow you and your dad look similar! Great video :)
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
@@JTsJourneys and best wishes on a happy retirement!
Thanks i'll pass that on :)
Nice to see, and for the £ per Avios, one of the best value redemptions out there! In my world, Meraki is an IT networking product made by Cisco - never heard of the soap thought!
Maybe they've diversified into hand soap now....
Never Cut the take off in LCY.
ah in the original edit I had the full one in there, but people kept clicking off so had to do an after upload cut. I'll post the full one soon
I best the airport breakfast cost as much as the flight!! 😂😂
Thankfully its' on priority pass!
@@JTsJourneys we flew back from Majorca airport yesterday - a “full English” breakfast (if you can even call it that) was £15.50 each!!
It was pitiful.
not worth it is it! In an airport now more often than not I'll try and grab a Greggs landslide before I go through, anywhere abroad some sort of toast / panini is my go to but even they can take the mick these days
Did you visit Legoland? 🙂
We only had 2 or so hours so explored the 'city' but didn't get a chance to visit the main attraction
@@JTsJourneys I did some work with Lego in the 90s which meant a lot of flights from Manchester to Billund! Sometimes we were the only ones on the flight!
Nice, i do get that impression, never mind 'lego land' the attraction, the entire city is really lego land
Shame this service is ending...
A real shame. That’s partly why I was keen to travel on it whilst I still could
It's not going to nowhere 😮
It's going to LEGOLAND.
Yippee 🎉
😂😂😂
I wish we'd have had time to go into lego land itself!
Dornier 328 jet does not have trust reverser
Thank you! Can't be many that don't have reverse thrust.
@@JTsJourneysNot all of the the Embraer ERJ 145 regional jets are fitted with thrust reversers either.
Didn't know this! thank you
I had no idea there were any 328 Jets on commercial service. I flew on one in 2007 on a private charter from Farnborough to Pau. Nice little aircraft.
Nice, how was the set up on the private charter?
Was the plane “pushed back” out of LCY?
No, at City the aircraft have space to power up and then 'turn out' onto the taxi way
@@JTsJourneys Thought so…you just used the term ‘pushed back” in your commentary.
ah yes. turn of phrase I guess.
The plane weighs less than an electric car 😂
It went like a rocket
Billund is for business.
Certainly. Especially on the LCY route. I suspect the ryanair flights are slightly more leisure?
Plenty go to Legoland in season.
@@JTsJourneys My daughter went to Lego HQ on business a few times, they always used Ryanair cos cheaper.
Yeah we saw Ryanair prices between £10 and £20
Nice clip but please no toilets. It's unnecessary. Apologies if being too picky but I cannot stand the toilets.
Cheers for the feedback
It's a plane review 😂 calm down and skip it