Retroid Pocket 4 Pro Review: PS2 and GameCube for $199!
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- The Retroid Pocket 4 Pro is here, and it provides an impressive amount of emulation performance at its $199 (plus shipping) price tag. Let's check it out and see if it's a good fit for you.
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00:00 introduction
01:12 specs and pricing
03:24 unboxing and impressions
11:06 size and weight comparisons
14:00 comfort and ergonomics
16:08 screen comparison
20:34 software experience
22:00 benchmarks
24:56 retro emulation testing
25:55 Saturn and 3DS
28:38 GameCube and Wii
31:26 PS2 and Switch
35:30 Android games and streaming
36:55 summary (likes and dislikes)
40:23 conclusion
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I have a cold, please forgive the stuffy nose 🤧
lol first thing i noticed was the deeper voice! feel better!
You're doing a fantastic job. Thanks for such a quick review out. I was looking forward to this. Purchases RP4 thanks to your channel.
I’m sick with the flu
I thought you had hired someone to do an impression of you.
You sound fine, Russ. Get well soon.
Russ, you are the sole reason I am having the time of life with emulating games I grew up with. Without your videos, guides, and insane dedication to the emulation community over the years, I'd be a lost cause. Thank you so much for being the most significant pillar of this community.
It starts with
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@@Fluvv I don't know why
@@cav-_-9857it doesn’t even matter how hard you try
19:18 "I think the 4 Pro is going to be great in bed"
Russ, you go above and beyond with your reviews
His wife probably not impressed.
@@skycloud4802 She might be happier than he is
Does it have a dual shock feature?
The 4 pro is EXACTLY what a lot of people hoped it would be. A mediatek SOC on par with a snapdragon 865 roughly but still small enough to be pocketable. I am very excited to get mine.
I'm personally going to wait for next years model. Obviously these emulation handhelds are a moving target. But I set a 'threshold' for when I would buy one, and that's once they have enough overhead that I basically don't have to worry about whether a psp/3DS game will run well and only whether it's supported in emulation. We should reach that with the 5 based on the 4's performance.
@@Bustermachine But then aren't you talking about the model in 2-3 years?
The rp4 basic can play psp and 3ds just fine with 2x resolution. @@Bustermachine
I still want one with a Snapdragon 8 gen 2!
@@netnomad47just get ayn odin 2 then lol
The big thing that prevents me from getting systems like the Steam Deck and Odin 2 is actually the size; they're just too large for me to really consider "portable" in the circumstances I'd use them in.
The Pocket 4, on the other hand, seems like the perfect size, and considering i am primarily interested in PS2 emulation it really seems like a no brainer at this price point.
Still hoping for a Steam Deck mini at some point in the future, but this is looking like more than enough for me in the meantime.
once the switch came out the word "portable" lost all meaning. The PSP is portable, The Gameboy is portable, the switch is a consle for on the go.
I agree I use to love my switch. But its not very portable at all
@@craigcervo4384That's why I'm turning to options like GPD, although their units are admittedly quite pricey.
RG405 from Anbernic seems a much better deal
@@Espartanica the 405 has a far lower resolution screen, looks like it's a lot less ergonomic, and from what I've seen seems to run PS2 and GameCube games quite a bit worse across the board, and is only slightly lower cost compared to the Pocket 4.
Really the only benefit seems to be the battery life, so it just doesn't seem worth it, at least for my use case.
The review we’ve all been waiting for. Thank you for your honesty and consistency!
100%, I wanted to jump on this one but decided to wait for Russ' review.
I have a vita and have no intention of buying another emu device for a few years - I still watch EVERY video 😂
Such a warm and homely channel ❤
You can really see the crossover from AYN on this one, which is a very good thing. I love my Odin 2 but it's nice seeing retroid making high quality cheaper alternatives
Exactly what I was thinking!! Beat me to saying it.
I’ve been thinking about getting an Odin 2 but the input lag is a huge dealbreaker for me, I’m very sensitive to such issues
@MugenDad Can you elaborate on the input lag?
Which color did yiu get odin2
Normal lite red bra
For me the smaller screen is a highly pro argument. Nowadays "portable" devices are good for long trips or couch and bed gaming. But to play spontaneous while you wait for the train the smaller the better imo. I usually still play witch my retro is pocket (the first one) or game boy micro on the go.
I agree, the smaller screen is a pro for me too! I don't want a huge handheld, this size is pretty good
What a review. So many comparisons. You really know your stuff and your videos are top tier. 👏 I may finally upgrade now from my RG350M from 3 years ago! 👍
I’m definitely convinced now that GC and PS2 have shown really good performance.
I was hoping Saturn would look better, but Die Hard is what I really wanted to play on that system and he showed it playing so I'm happy.
@@blitheringrando1410if you wanna play Die Hard Arcade, get the PS2 Sega Ages re-release. It has enhanced graphics and tons of new content and if you don't like the new graphics you can play the game exactly how it was on the saturn, all without dealing with Saturn emulation headaches. It's also a very lightweight PS2 game, too, easy to emumate.
Not there yet
Hooooooooold
The MediaTek Dimensity 1100 is really potent, and I'm glad we've finally moved away from Unisoc. It's much more stable and software support is better.
But USD $200 is a decent amount. I was hoping they would have "downgraded" instead to the Qualcomm Snapdragon 778. It's a relatively new midrange chipset, with decent long-term support, and the software optimisation is much better. Those tricky titles and tricky systems would simply run much better. Also the battery life seems to be superb. That would have made the comparison to the AYN Odin2 more favourable. It really is a bit like a Toyota Corolla (pocketable) versus (portable) Toyota RAV4. But where there are superior alternatives to the AYN Odin2 (SteamDeck, VSD OLED, ASUS ROG Ally, GPD Win-Max-3, etc)... well there isn't any for the Retroid Pocket 4+.
It better be hadokenable
Or at least shoryukenable
@@greenshell5735
Damn. Just beat me to it
@@greenshell5735 what about "haba-dipe-dipe-shourudipe" able
Apparently it has the same controls than the RP2S
So it is...
is it Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku able?
Insane how well produced your videos are, thanks a bunch for the written guides!!
My pleasure!
Russ, regardless of subject, your channel is the best channel on YT. I adore brevity above all and you somehow still manage to do it in a 43 minute video. Bravo.
I second that! ❤ you Russ
The only review I was patiently waiting for and I'm happy to conclude that my friends and I are glad we purchased the RP4 Pro!
Keep up the amazing content!
Just bought one for my son after watching. Hopefully he lets me use it too!
Man, you are thorough but also to the point. I paused the video to write this after you compared the size AND the weight in rapid fashion. You also have the gift of sounding enthusiastic when warranted, but giving the trade-offs/negatives when warranted. I love when creators like you state emphatically that (basically) this is not a commercial. Thank you.
Your channel is the best! I was actually binging your videos the past couple of days, comparing all the handhelds to see which one I'd like best. The other day, I finalized my choice being the Retroid Pocket 3 Plus, but since I wasn't in a hurry to buy anything just yet, I also kept in mind (per your suggestion) to hold out on the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro... and just like that, your review of it has arrived!
Thank you for taking time out to review all these cool products extensively and unbiasedly. I not only got to make the best choice for myself as a first-time handheld buyer but also was able to learn so much about how handhelds work and are built! It's really fascinating and I'm excited to see what the future brings!
Gonna watch this later but had to wake up and check it was uploaded. Been banking on this or odin 2 so will look forward to hearing your review. Thanks dude!
Love seeing the in-depth Saturn testing. It's such a tricky system, and I see a lot of reviewers lumping it in with PSP and Dreamcast and figuring, "ah, it's old and this thing is powerful, it will probably be fine."
i'm not knowledgeable, just guessing, but I wonder if it has to do with using quads, a lot of its rendering hardware has to be emulated by software, more so than other systems that can be emulated a bit and then passed to the GPU in a workable state
again just guessing, everything I said is likely wrong
@@snowzZzZzIt’s mostly because the saturn hardware is notoriously hard to develop for, emulating is a similar story. Up until a few years ago Saturn emulation was literally considered impossible.
The difficulty with Saturn emulation goes back to Sega's original sin of tuning the Saturn for 2D.
When you are that far into development and the reaction to the PSX is exactly what you didn't need meant the midnight oil was going to be brunt.
The fact it was so hard to program for adds to this difficulty of designing a emulator that works on most hardware that doesn't have extra CPU/GPU cores lying unused like a really powerful gaming PC or Media workstation.
That said the mainstream games all seem to work okay and will require from tweaking from developers to work it's best.
I need a handheld to play Dragon Force on. Pleaseeee
Finally an afordable portable handheld that runs PS2 and GC well. Retroid did a good job. Mine is coming soon. Thanks for the video!
phones have had this performance for $100 since 2017, but I guess we needed 6 years and +$100 to add buttons and analogs...
@@tynao2029 No they haven't. The processor this is closest too (and the dimensity actually beats) is a snapdragon 865 which didn't come out till late 2019. Not a single phone that uses that chipset is anywhere close to $100 or even $300 for that matter unless you're talking used prices, and even then it will be at $200+
@@Diosky27 The LG G7 ThinQ released in 2018, you can get them in 10/10 condition for around $80 and nearly all specs still pretty much blow this stuff out of the water for more than 2x less the price. Just look at the screen specs. We pay a premium on these devices for analogs and buttons when you could just connect attach a controller to a smartphone. Sure it's nostalgic but expensive, the really cool ones are the niche devices like Anbernic Arc-D that actually recreate a console controller
Most people have modern smartphones @@Diosky27
@@tynao2029 There was no phone in 2017 for $100 with this performance.
Insane dedication to the retro handheld community. I've used your videos so much these last few years and learned so much. Still on the RG350M because i love Gameboy Advance resolution but thinking about this for those newer emulators like PS2 and Gamecube, just needed that more powerful chip for something to upgrade to
I think I'll be good with my 3+ for at least the next few years, but I hope they keep making better and better models like this until I'm ready for an upgrade!
I too will wait this one out, maybe the 4 pro plus version
I agree. Although I have to say the performance gap between 3+ and pro is huge, which is good. The only thing I do not like is battery life. From these old chip sets you can easily squeeze 8 hours of play (speaking of 3 and 3+ family), this is not the case for the 4 and 4 pro. Still retroid is heading in the right direction 👍
The “putting analog sticks on a piece of toast” got me lol
Even on the Odin 2 Pro, Star Wars Rogue Squadron is tough to run. This is pretty damn impressive. As far as some PS2 games being hard to run, you will also have this on an Odin 2 Pro. Transformers Armada for PS2 still has graphical issue along with some slowdowns. Rogue Trooper cannot run well beyond 1.5x. Alot of other games you can crank settings to the max with no issue.
My pc can't even run it. Yes I really need to replace my pc internals
Yeah, it's emulation and these games are made for PS2 / NGC. There are very few emulators which tries to replicate the original device 1:1 in software emulation to expect the game running as on original hardware. This approach can be seen, when you compare SNEX9X, which is even today one of the most used emulators and compare it to bsnes, which is much more accurate but needs more power to run it. But if you can run it, it is to be expected that you can run every game without any issues.
Sadly, AetherSX2 is not furthermore in development and there is no great alternative.
Dolphin development/android driver issue probably, bet these run fullspeed on slower pc.
How does the Sly Cooper games and the Daxter and Clank games do? Might be getting those wrong, sorry. Am noob
Edit: I meant Rachet and Clank and the Jax and Daxter series 😅
@@ImGairBair Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter looked great at 2x. Waiting to hear back on Jak 2!!
Two of the only youtubers I subscribe to. Russ and Mr Sujano. You guys are awesome, to the point, and very knowledgeable. Its nice to find people on youtube trying to help and not just try to sell you a bunch of over priced merch. Thank you for the in depth reviews!
I appreciate you for reviewing the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro, Russ!! Great honest review. It’s clearly one of the top winners when it comes down to portable retro handhelds. Finally a system that can do PlayStation 2, GameCube, etc; on the go and at a great price and brilliant controls and style. Actually imo the controls really reminds me of a PS3 controller with PSVita dpad scheme!! Excellent feels.
Excellent review as always, Russ! I’m thinking I’ll order this over the Odin 2, as I think it’ll serve my needs better. The extra resolution, better ergonomics, and battery on the Odin 2 would be nice for sure, but really I think the reason the RP4Pro would be a better fit for me is because I could actually fit it in my pocket. If I want something bigger, I can just use my Steam Deck OLED instead of the Odin. Whereas with the RP4Pro, it would just be awesome to have something I can play GameCube/Wii on in my pocket ready to go at a moment’s notice if I’m in a waiting room or on a train without needing to bring a separate bag.
I just made food, have my blanket and I'm about to enjoy one of the best handheld youtubers out there! Keep up the great work Russ!
Amazing review. Looks like a great little device!! I already have Odin 2 Pro so holding off for now. Will more than likely pick this up down the line for travel.
I just purchased the flip right before Christmas, and just received it last week. I really do enjoy it a lot! I love the clamshell design and everything about it. It's cute and pocketable and I can put it in my bag and bring it to work and have a good time. My coworker just ordered him a steam deck and is super excited. I was considering getting the 4 Pro but I think I would be more happier playing with the Odin 2 Pro. I would like to get a steam deck, but I can't afford it at this moment. Maybe one day. But any games I want to play, could probably be played on the Odin 2 Pro and I wouldn't have no issues. I appreciate everything you do for us Russ. You have gotten me into the whole handheld emulator world and I just want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart. I hope I enjoy whenever I purchase my Odin 2 Pro.
Thanks for the video. I recently got an Odin 2 Pro and I'm extremely happy with it. I did get a RP3+ earlier last year and love it for games which primarily use the d-pad. I can't justify the jump to the RP4 but it does look like a great little machine. Many thanks for all of the setup videos as well!
As much as people hated on the flip, the fact that it didn’t have a second screen on the bottom allowed them to move the sliders in to be more comfortable like PlayStation controllers. Although I’m very excited for this device, I think I’ll wait and hope they release a flip 2. If not, it’s not the end of the world if I buy later
Thanks so much for the review! I'm convinced now, this is the exact handheld I was looking for when I got into this hobby and I'm definitely going to be picking one up.
Thanks for this review, I went with the Odin 2 after having an RP3 and RP3+ I wanted something with a larger screen. After using the CRKD controller thing with my switch I knew the form factor was it for me, love the form factor of the Odin 2.
We're at a point now where playing PS2 on an android device is limited more by the emulator than by the power of the device itself.
It's a shame there aren't more options for PS2. And where the hell is a Xbox emulator for that matter?
@@skycloud4802I've been wondering the same. Perhaps it's got to do with Xbox running Windows in the background? I'm sure it's a resource intensive pain in the butt to emulate.
@@skycloud4802 Apparently, Xemu and Xenia don't run on Android because Xbox software is tied too much to Windows.
That’s one of the things that is keeping the Odin 2 of being the perfect handheld! Size is another thing 😅
@@Kuchenwurst I think the underlying issue (that relates to the modified version of Windows2000 the 360 ran) was that the CPU architecture on the 360 was pretty close to x86 (close to a Intel Pentium or one of the intel processors of that time) which would prove pretty annoying to emulate on the ARM chips these handhelds run. Couple that with a kind of weird GPU that has (or maybe used to have) spotty community-driven documentation, and you have a rather difficult task to take on.
Retroid Pocket 4 Pro and Ayn odin 2 are just really good Android handhelds out there and amazing review by you as always 😊💙
Man, that Odin 2 is really tempting. The thing is, is it worth it for just retro gaming? I'm looking at NES all the way up to the PS2. When it comes to DS and 3DS, I'll just use the original hardware for those games.
@@SP-vl1jhI'd say if you think most of the time you want to play ps2/switch and heavy android games/pc streaming definitely odin 2 is a solid choice.
However if you prefer older retro consoles with occasional ps2 and want something smaller you can't go wrong with rp4 pro.
@@imeverywhere9633 It'd strictly be for NES and consoles all the way up to GC/PS2. I have no desire to play Switch or android games on these handhelds. The screen size comparison during the Sea of Stars section made me think about it.
@@SP-vl1jh Fr that's exactly it. I was debating between Steam Deck and RP4 Pro but tbh I already have an overkill gaming PC so might as well get a handheld that runs PS2/GC/DS games, most of those consoles are all beat in the used market + I can game stream from my PC to the RP4 Pro if I really want to handheld PC games.
Between this review and Taki Udon's that covers a few other details, the retro community has everything we need to know. I'm so glad we have both!!
Been waiting for this review. Just ordered a Odin 2 thanks to your suggestion 😁
This is super exciting for me. I have a steam deck and a miyoo mini plus. I've been wanting a "medium" handheld that is more powerful than the mm+ and much smaller than the sd. I have held off because I want solid PS2 and GC performance. I almost pulled the trigger on the Anbernic rg405m, but performance just isn't quite there for me. I hope Anbernic makes a handheld with the build of the 405m (4:3 screen, left analog placement, in line shoulders and triggers) but with this performance. That would be an instant buy for me.
No Sly Cooper makes me a little sad though
@@noahjdavis7396makes me super sad :/
Or maybe even in the rgb30
Same here! I’m still looking at the RG405M for its screen ratio and size but damn this Retroid Pocket 4 Pro is calling me...
I really agree about the screen size not being ideal for later gen games that were designed for bigger screens, which is why I prefer to play those games on my Steam Deck. What I really wanted was a handheld that could handle the 3DS, PSP and other games made for the handheld factor, especially with regard to classic Monster Hunter. Can't wait for mine to arrive.
your video randomly popped into my recommended one day and i just knew i wanted this device. thanks for introducing me to the world of portable emulation.
Great review as always! Thanks Russ. This one just shot to the top of my list... I think I am getting one of these at some point this year.
'If you're old like me and you have hard seeing things from time to time..'
I feel you brother.
Finally, a device I can put into my pocket that plays PS2 and Gamecube well, and it only costs me physical therapy from the hand pains.
Get a grip
@@suhtangwongThat defeats the purpose of a portable console imo
@@suhtangwong Are you calling me crazy??? jk. But yeah, not very pocketable at that point. Really I just want the analog stick to not be in such an awkward position for 3D games.
@@stfn4472but it's such a good pun
@@diodora2381 just saw my msg and I meant the rp4 grip lol so more like Xbox layout? I'm used to ps/switch style but Xbox style makes more sense for comfortability
I just bought the Odin 2 pro and I love it so far but I’m really tempted to pick up the Retroid pro too. I kinda like the portability. Thanks for the video. Also thanks for the setup videos you do. It’s really helped me. Adios
Excellent machine. And video too. Thank you, them receiving your heads up and fixing it talks a LOT about them as a company, well worth the $.
A portable $200 device that could play ps2 at 2x in the palm of my hands 😮 if only that existed back in early 2000s 🔥
Hell if that existed even 5 years ago.
That's honestly what the PSP felt like to me when it came out
20 years later we will have handheld device that can play PS5 for $199
@fajarkurniawan9434 well all be underwater by then
@@MasDouc ill be in space
That's actually a pretty powerful processor. A big step up from those unisoc T618 chips, but by the way when it comes to 3D Mark wildlife it's best just to look at the frames per second its able to get , because you're really just testing the ballpark 3D rendering capabilities. For playing retro games a lot of times that won't even be important, and some devices won't be so good in 3D rendering but will have great CPU speed which can often be the bottleneck in emulation performance.
Cheers Russ, kudos for getting a review out so quickly despite the cold. $200 for pocketable GC and PS2 hits a sweet spot for sure.
Thanks, Russ! Yours was the RP4 Pro review that I was waiting for!
This is amazing! Exactly what I'd get, if I didn't already buy an AYN Odin 2 months ago
Yeah once you have that device then there's no point for this one
@@GangityBirdity yeah my thoughts exactly
WiFi 6 support is the killer standout feature for me, at the same price of the Portal this does way more.
You are missing the point of the portal
1) 8inch screen vs 4.7
2) full blown dual sense features and comfort
The portal is completely pointless
@@Drivenbystill can't believe they didn't go for a nice OLED for the portal.
@@Drivenby that's fair, but the fact that the Portal can't interface by WiFi 6 when the PS5 can is a bit of an oddity for me.
@@MasDouclol y u mad
Maaan. Great review as always. I've had my flip for literally 2 months today. I definitely love my clamshell but there's no denying this is a better, more exciting experience. I knew there would be some fomo buying a device right before going in to the new year. There's always something new in the world of emulation these days.
Great video, really appreciate you going into all the details. Definitely going with the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro 🤩.
If I didn't back the Odin Pro, this would've been a sure pick! Excellent stuff
honestly, if it cost $50 more and had a 5.5/6" OLED, it would be my dream machine (would not even need to be 1080p)
Just get the Odin 2 at that price point
@@Chris-cx6wl thats fair, i am nit picking. but i have yet to find the base odin 2 version for the original $300, and if i am spending anything over $300, might as well go a bit further and get something like the steamdeck
Have you considered getting a Galaxy S20fe second hand ($159 plus) and a controller grip like the GameSir X2 Pro ($67)? Around $226 or so total and you get a 6.5" OLED screen and Snap Dragon 865 with performance close to this D1100.
@@discardedparticles I do have a Note 10+ that has been collecting dust in my closet, i may just break it out and test out the capabilities of it.
I'm still rocking my RP2+ and think that it's time to upgrade to this RP4-Pro. Thank you for the in-depth review! It was your RP2+ review and setup guide that got me into the whole retro gaming world! Keep up the great work Russ!
unless you're really constrained by size, I'd consider a second hand steam deck. some sell at or under $250. and it's a far more capable device.
@@DarkPhoenix1515 I have a steam deck that I dont use much. Maybe Ill keep the RP2+ because it is quite compact.
Glad that this review was favorable given that I preordered the RP4 Pro last month!
Appreciate this! This confirms my belief to get the Odin 2
150$, gamecube and PS2 no frame skip, I believe that's the golden goal. The first manufacturer who can reach it will win the Handheld wars of that year
Yeah 200 is a little steep for me, really I dont want to spend more than 100 on a device like this, but it may be quite a while before there is a ps2/gamecube full capacity system under 100
@@craciunator99Me personally, I already own a 3+ that my son has been eyeing for awhile, I also have a steam deck, and to slap with the AAA games I have a ps5. So I’m well rounded on all angles, yet I preordered the pro over a month ago and I’m excited for it. I already have the HDMI out infrastructure for the steam deck and of course Bluetooth controllers so it will be a great experience. All of the shortcomings I found with the 3+ have been fixed, I can’t stand the side volume buttons. It drove me up a wall, and I was also smart enough to buy the case for it this time so the ergonomics are no longer going to be a factor.
Just like our switch oled, it cramps the hand after while and is just uncomfortable for playing long term. But this device being small and running android are the main selling points for me, setting things up via emu deck on steam has proven to be a little more confusing than I’d like to admit. The hot keys are different and hard to find, and having to go into desktop mode to set it all up was daunting. I am beyond excited to get mine, and I’m not even mad that I’m going have to set up a new device for the umpteenth time. This is going to be the last one I purchase for a good long while, my only worries now are the durability of it. I had my 3+ for a week before it took a tumble off a hotel bed, about a foot and a half and the left shoulder and trigger stopped working. I plan on being a lot more careful with the 4Pro and keeping it in the case grip the moment I get it. Cheers.
@@craciunator99 I think the price is fine, but the size is not. I need PS2/GC capable devices to be much smaller. About GBA SP size ideally.
Hopefully someone makes a limited edition handheld with old used sd 865 phones for 150
Thanks so much for this detailed review! I just ordered the Retroid 4 Pro after watching this video. Looking forward to playing PS2, GameCube and PSP games on something so portable.
Highlight of the video was being introduced to Dog's Life. Happy New Years Russ, looking forward to another year of your videos! 😊
I was able to grab a S20 FE 5G which has the Snapdragon 865 which is equivalent in performance to the D1100 for $50. Then add a Gamesir G8 for $80 and for $130 it’s pretty close to performance of the RP4 Pro though no active cooling and 2GB less RAM (while gaining an OLED 1080p screen on the S20). What I’m getting at is $199 isn’t a bad price for what you’re getting.. all in one pocketable handheld that can play PS2 and GameCube.. I’m glad we’re finally at this level of performance that is somewhat affordable.
This is really the way to go. You can find cheap smartphones a few years old that have great snapdragons in them, just get one of those and get one of those controller attachments and youre good to go!
@@craciunator99 I'm thinking that myself. I have the S22 and I'm like do I pick up a Retroid Pocket 4 Pro or just buy a good phone controller instead?
I guess the pro with a dedicated handheld is not having to deal with background notifications and having to take the controller on and off but these high end phone have so much power...
I don't think emulation requires active cooling. With Snapdragon 870 I can easily run ps2 games at 2k(didn't try 4k) and it doesn't get heated really.
There are cheaper options than Gamesir G8, it is not really the best budget pick but it is great. So second hand phone with OLED screenreally the best option, also if controller drift you can change it, you are also getting better performance.
@@AndySomething Yeah that’s something to think about. Personally I like having a separate gaming device from my phone (Plus I’m an iPhone person so emulation isn’t as easy). But if you already have an S22 then you have more power then a RP4 Pro already. I own multiple handheld gaming devices but always seem to go back to the S20 with the GameSir G8… that G8 is just so comfortable to use.
@@Whiteshade Yeah active cooling def is not needed for most games. But it’s always something people point out when I mention just getting an old Android phone. I haven’t had any issues with running really any games using my S20. And at $80 the GameSir G8 def isn’t a budget phone controller but it’s sooooo nice and the build quality and what you get for that price is pretty insane considering something like the BackBone is $100. I can’t praise the G8 enough.. but yeah it’s def not necessary if you’re trying to get a device together at the lowest cost.
The whole point of this device in my mind is the ability to run ps2 games fluidly in a small form factor. With that in mind, having the sticks where they are is just a deal breaker for me. Katamari, Fight Night and racing games are why I would purchase this device and all of them I would prefer to play with twin sticks. If I want a device that can play dreamcast and down, there are more pocketable and cheaper devices available. Looks like Odin2 or Steam Deck for me, which is unfortunate as I was hoping that maybe with the grip the Pocket 4 pro would fit the bill, but that just doesn't seem to be the case.
Thanks for the fantastic content!
Totally agree with you. Ergonomics of the RP4 just don't make sense, even if it's a great little machine overall. If they enlarge the screen just a bit and put the left stick on top it will become close to perfection
I have been looking forward to this review! I preordered one for a late Christmas gift for my older brother! Good stuff!
Great review as always Russ!! Can’t wait to see what the screen looks like on the retail units.
hadouken-able and Shoryuken-able, Russ making great reviews and setting new standards for controller quality... great review very detailed, thank you as always
I don't care what someone names their channel, you are and will forever be THE tech daddy.
Seriously though your reviews have guided me thru the retro gaming world over the last few months. Leading me to this purchase. And after preordering and watching others sorta stumble through their points I thought I made a mistake. Your review put those nerves at ease. Thanks for all the effort you're pouring into these videos 🔥
Ordered mine today, I'm really excited for it. That 200€ price point for all these systems is completely crazy when you look back just a year. And performance will be even better with time and more development in the android emulation scene. Good Start 2024 - good start!
and also: Thank You, Russ! Not just for that review, but for bringing me into that lovely little hobby that is retro handheld emulation.
it comes with the roms pre installed or i have to put the roms in the micro sd?
Please help me I'm trying to find the rp4 pro for 200
I love your SMB2 mug! Thanks for the video!
If they release a 2S-like model with this chipset I'm all for buying one. My Odin 2 is my 16:9 emulation console of choice. Right now, my RG 353P is my preferred 4:3 handheld and I would like more performance than that
Yeah a 4S with 4:3 (but still high res) would be instant buy for me.
Well done Retroid. Now give us an oled version of rp4pro, add rp3s as a budget option, and we are hooked.
Great video as always!!!! I'm looking to buy the RP4+ or the Odin 2, and this video helped a lot :) Have a nice trip!
Really nice review. Thank you for that. The comparison with the cars helps me a lot.
I remember when the Retroid Pocket 2+ (which I own) could barely play PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64 games, it's insane how far modern SOCs have come and how efficient they are. It absolutely amazes me that the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro can comfortably play most 3DS games.
It plays ps1 great. You're doing something wrong if you couldn't get 100% of ps1 to run flawless
I recall Rouge Squadron 2 displaying a little slow down on the actual Gamecube - so the emulation you showed here might be accurate.
Too much red with Rouge Squadron
It was me who asked for Dog's Life, thank you! It was slow on my KTR1 too haha, played it when I was little at my best friend's house
I've been looking into handhelds like this more seriously the past few days, and only just saw the RP4! This taught me what I needed to know, and I expect I'll be making good use of a dock-mode (especially if the battery isn't as enduring as it could be). Gonna see how the retail model shapes up before I commit, mind, but for $200 that's pretty dang good!
Looking forward to the Flip form factor of this as I prefer clamshells
This looks like an amazing device, especially for the price. Personally, I don't have a desire to play PS2/GC games on the go at this point so I'm sticking with my RP3+, but anyone who wants that, this looks great!
A ton of PS2/GC games run great on the 3+ If you just switch a few settings and actually update your emulators. Finished Eternal Darkness the other week, not a single fps drop and native widescreen
Very cool, thanks @@konkavsty - I had no idea!
@@jjthehoser762 The key is to underclock the emulator. In Dolphin it’s called ”Emulated clock speed”. I have it more or less permanently set to 75(%). Make sure ”override Emulated clock speed” is unticked. For extra compability activate ”compile shaders before start”. That’s pretty much it for basic settings, make sure Dual-core is activated in Dolphin (some games don’t have it on by default). All of these settings can be found in ”general” in the settings menu.
I use official Dolphin Beta for most games. But Metroid Prime 1 and Resident Evil 4 works best in Dolphin MMJR1 build. There are a few games that refuse to work, but most that do work will more or less perform flawlessly. I don’t upscale any games.
I will be getting my unit soon. This will be my first time using an emulation handheld. Thank you!
Thanks for the fzero tip. I never realized it was turning that off. Turned dual core back on and it runs perfectly.
Great video! Sticking with the $200 price,if someone is looking to play a decent amount of PS2 and GameCube would you recommend RP4pro or the original Odin Pro? I’m torn between a larger screen and processing power 😖
I think dual stick games might work a lot better with the grip accessory (they do with the 2S).
That'd be a great addition to see in more reviews because I wonder how effective some can be to help the feel
@@alexanderespinoza for me, it was a must. i printed a grip for my rp3+ and it really changed the feel of it. i could play it for hour and hours without it feeling uncomfortable.
How much weight would it add?
Get well soon!
Nice first impression video!
Your review was so awesome and helpful man, thank you so much 👍
Kind of crazy you had issues with Sly Cooper. On my Odin Lite (D900) I had no issues once I switched to OpenGL. But I have heard other people have had issues with that game.
Turned of all the speedhacks and underclocking?
@@bulletpunch9317 Only thing I changed was Vulkan to OpenGL and it ran buttery smooth on my Odin Lite. Everyrhing else was set to whatever AetherSX2 is set to by default.
looking forward to your starter guide
Nice Coffee mug. I make those as a hobby. I have a mug press, printer with sublimation ink, blank mugs and the correct paper. The Retroid Pocket 4 is definitely a nice hand held. I still remember many years ago when these first started being released such as the GP2X line of hand helds.
A smaller Steam Deck light would be awesome to compete with this stuff. The Steam library is huge.
I doubt that would happen, namely valve isn't in the emulator handheld scene(they let you do what you want with the hardware but they are already selling at a loss, you can't make store sales on a something like that), they are in the handheld gaming PC scene,
And we're probably at least a couple years away from performance being good enough to actually create a smaller form factor while having acceptable battery life and performance
second even if it's $150 bump the base model steam deck competes well enough that I don't think it would be necessary, to be entirely honest the bigger competition for stuff like this is smart phones with a gamepad grip
The steam deck battery lasts at most 2 hours for graphic intensive games. If they made it smaller the battery life would be unusable.
If you want something a bit smaller you have the Rog Ally.
I think Steam released their OS as a bootable file. So in theory they won't need to. If somebody put their mind to it, perhaps you could flash Steam OS on open Linux based handhelds already. Although it might be very bad and not work well.
@@skycloud4802 prefix: I'm nearly certain what he's asking for is a cheaper steam deck that's also smaller, what your proposing does meet what he was asking for... Anyways main comment
yes but it's x86-64 only, the devices of a size comparable to any of the retroid ares almost entirely arm based or mips based, yes it's technically possible to run box 64 and emulate x86 steam but the performance is awful, the few that aren't are mostly older Intel handhelds with lackluster performance and they're still much larger than any of the retroids
"The 4 Pro is going to be great in bed"
nice
I just ordered one and can’t wait to get one. As a steam deck user it is tough sometimes to take it with you. This is a great option to bring back some memories from my youth. Thanks for the review!
Love my steam deck but I can’t that thing everywhere lol
exactly @@P-dub978 lol
Great video as always, i have been waiting for your review and you didn’t fail.
But, i waited for the 4 pro to decide and i will probably go with an Odin 2 😁
Feel well, you sounded like you have a bit of a cold. I wish you good health
This device is so close to perfect for me, but the left stick placement just kills it. The left stick position causes my hand to cramp so bad, even with the grip, and for them to keep it on the bottom with a device that is powerful enough to play ps2/GC/3DS is so unfortunate. Hopefully they release a version with the left stick on top in the future, I would buy it in an instant
Totally agree, let's hope it will happen for the RP5
Struggling to understand putting the analogue stick at the bottom for a device primarily focused on newer retro titles. The RP3+ was, for me, very uncomfortable without the grip for longer play sessions.
Thanks for another great review. I'm new to the channel but already a fan.
Regarding the system reviewed I was just a bit disappointed that there isn't a dedicated "special function" button like on the RG35XX H for fast forwarding etc.
Hey Russ, great review. Just a potential suggestion for this year if you are thinking about upping your review game at all. I think it would be cool if you had an actual decibelmeter for recording things like button loudness, fan loudness, and max volume on a device. The way you do things now is fine in all honesty but it's not the most objective measurement. It is a lot of extra work though for something so small, so maybe not worth it. I'm sure you've probably thought of it before. Thanks again for the great review
I'd love the form factor and look, but sadly the ergonomics are too bad for the size of my hands. I often use a grip with my RP3+, but my Odin 2 is absolutely perfect without one even for longer sessions.
The grip made the RP3 soooo much better
@@bobbytaylor6363It's kind of funny how the RP3+ is simultaneously the most uncomfortable device ever *without* the grip, but also one of the best feeling *with* the grip haha
I actually had to get a grip for my Odin 2. The ergonomics are fine for 1 stick games, but IMO pretty bad for 2 stick games. The right stick is just way too close to the bottom corner. With the grip it is much more comfortable.
This is a tough product because the Odin 2 is so great and retro Is know for hardware problems. At least my retroid 3+ came broken
Great review as always Russ. This is a great device, only marginally eclipsed in terms of both performance and value by the Odin 2. You can’t really go wrong with either!
Hope you have a starter guide for this as well when I get this. Great content ❤