@@MrDengo999 meh, sure its cool to have carbon everything but i dont have that kind of money. where i live, if you drop a bike in the rocks it will get cheesegratered immediately. ive kicked up 10'' diameter rocks mid trail and had them bounce off my downtube and i just kept shredding along if that were carbon, i'd be a bit more cautious
It does look sick, I considered it (ended up getting Mach 6 in stealth) BUT I know after 6 months I'd get sick of it. If they made that pink yellow I'd have gone for it, but no go with the pink.
Good review video, Kaz! Here's my tip for my Saints brake pads, I did " carefully" spread out the pads springs away from each other, to have the pads pushed against the pistons. It did the trick for me, hope that helps 🤘
It is really expensive, but it's silly to compare its price and spec to a direct-sale bike like Propain or YT. Bikes sold in bike shops are always going to be relatively more expensive. If you don't want to pay the premium for a shop bike, that's understandable, but don't act shocked because they don't offer the same value as direct sales.
Pretty much everyone knew it was Nomad SC was dropping next. I like the design of the new head tube, looks cool. Surprised to see them mix Rockshox with Fox, thats a new one. Why not just throw a Zeb up front or an X2 in back? One of the nicest looking frames out there. Looks like a great bike and fantastic video.
It has not won design and innovation award so I don't think so. Santa Cruz only has one award for Stigmata in 2017, Merida on the other hand has had around 12
Solid bike , both colours are awesome. I think the mixed shock combo is actually good. The Super Deluxe is really plush and the Fox Forks are simply the best. I bought a bike with 4 piston XT brakes and I m not experiencing the rattling ... maybe they re not all doing it. I don t have a bite point problem either.
I kinda expected something more, better really. Guess this is a cool update. Santa Cruz just really isn't that exciting to me these days I suppose. I'm sure some still like them though.
Soooo I ordered when they had the 10% off, earlier this year. Is the a new bike compared to the one I ordered? Because I could not choose this color...
Probably the best bike I've ever had! My tallboy climbs better but is no more agile. The megatower that preceded it was a faster tank, but what do you expect us who don't wear bibs to do with all that speed...
@@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 No, it feels pretty upright when I pedal seated. I'm sure it will fit you well. If you have any other questions, I have answers in my back pocket.
i love santa cruz but my ocd kicks in when they pair a fox fork with rockshox shock even though it works rlly well and I totally wouldn't see a dpx2 on this
The fork crown is backwards in at least some of the shots - bike in the stand and when it's in the field and they're panning around it. Not sure if it's also backwards in the riding shots.
Can you guys review the “Canyon Spectral 27.5 cf 8” when it comes out? But can Mike Levy review it because he’s close to my height and I want to know which size he picks and how it fits.
I feel like all frames being made now a days should have some form of swat box. Especially as the lead designer of SC said its one of the things he's most gutted they never thought of. I mean even trek are doing it
And the price, SC are way over priced, the entry level ones have componentry that is well below the level expected for the price, and they are no better than other brands especially for average riders that do not push the bike to the limit where any subtle differences may show if there are any.
@@TheAllEngineering I used to think the same, but after owing the Nomad V4 for over a year i couldn't disagree more. The Nomad was my first bike that i really truly loved. No pedal bob, not much pedal kickback, enough progression but not too much so you can still setup up different shocks, etc. I used to own a YT, Canyon etc because of the parts but now i would definitely choose a high end frame over parts. Plus every time something brakes you get excited to upgrade 😊😅
@@JulienVollweiter If you climb at a sedate pace then pedal bob and inefficiency is not really an issue, but if you power it up then the forward momentum definitely does not match the power being put in. I rode HT and found it really bad when you ramped the power up, at a sedate pace it was ok.
I like the amount of travel this bike has, soaks up just about everything. But the rear feels loose all the time. I'm constantly checking tire pressure and spokes mid ride. I'm going to try carbon wheel set and if that doesn't fix it I'm gonna sell..
RECALL on 2020 nomad me being one of the unlucky ones BUT. my bike has been sitting at my local shop for a month now going to be 3 to 4 MONTHS before I get to ride again THANKS SANTA CRUZ FOR TAKING MY BIKE AWAY AND NOT CARING ABOUT THE LITTLE GUY
Still stuck in 2015, eh? The current reverbs are brilliant, and if you don’t want it, just remove it. It’s not like you wouldn’t have money to do that.
@@xx-----------xx873 working in a shop, we keep getting issues with even the earliest models. With much cheaper and more reliable options on the market, i still think that this spec is just plain outdated. Until rockshox understands that hydraulic droppers aren't a thing, i'll keep this exact line of thought. It's just one more thing to bleed. Let's keep oil in our brakes, where it makes an actual difference. Making the post go up faster by half a second won't make anyone choose the reverb over any other reliable cable actuated dropper; that is also probably cheaper.
If you want to jump go for nomad! If you want to roll fast go for the enduro. Climbing is really the same. The nomad is more a freerider that you can pedal welland the enduro is more enduro bike that is pretty massive on the descending 👍
@@outdoorsonly3399 Yeah that's Personal preference. I personally Just recently bought the Radon Swoop 10.0. You might wanns Check that Out Then. It's a Bit more Like the Canyon Torque but it has 29inch wheels and 170mm Front and Back. Components whise you get a 38 Performance Elite and Fox X2 and XT derailer for Just 3599€. Also very good value if you ask me (comes with Carbon Main frame as Well) ;)
The review on Vital references that Santa Cruz is specifically recommending not to mullet this bike. Does anybody have any SPECIFIC information on why that is?
Why is it that every Santa Cruz and Specialized bike that comes out gets ultra mega reviewed, yet Rocky Mountains, Comenccal or Marin bikes get no love
Its a conspiracy... or Santa and Specialized consistently put out well developed and thought through products. By the way, commencal meta tr 29 won the pink bike field test for best budget trailbike this year!
@@Will.Tilcke i agree they get new models out every year, but how about giving other companies some airtime too, people entering the mtb world will think they need to buy this expensive ass bikes when there are many other options out there like for example the new Salsa bikes or as i was saying Marin Bikes, the oldest mountain bike company in the world.
I'm really tired of people knocking on the shimano brake rattle. Dinging SC because of the brakes a con is stupid. I rather have the xt brakes over any of the shit sram brakes. Plus I prefer the older 2poc m8000 brakes over the new ones.
@@Playwholeday Thank you for insulting me for no reason, I said "I know this is stupid to say but..." so I know its not important to have matching brands, I know the performance will be as good, it just annoys me because I like matching things. Nothing more. No reason to call someone stupid.
I wish more companies would do high end aluminum builds. It brings a lot more value to the table.
Yeah I know right!!
I brought up aluminum at the bike shop recently and was practically laughed at. I didn’t really see the humor myself lol
Carbon everything.
@@MrDengo999 meh, sure its cool to have carbon everything but i dont have that kind of money. where i live, if you drop a bike in the rocks it will get cheesegratered immediately. ive kicked up 10'' diameter rocks mid trail and had them bounce off my downtube and i just kept shredding along
if that were carbon, i'd be a bit more cautious
Need more like the RM Altitude A70
This bike is all I see this morning. Lots of reviews coming out, I guess I gotta watch them all, but this one first.
This year we're doing something different... But kinda the same.
Love the profile pic
Seths bike hacks
Berm peak does the same thing
@@Will-xz9gj ????
This ain't Berm Peak.... We ain't doing nothing kinda the same here...
Been waiting for this to drop, great surprise
Why am I watching bike videos at midnight
cuz thats when the santacruz embargo expires lol
Because we love bicycles!
Well at least you're not alone in watching mtb videos @ midnight✌🏾😅
I'm watching it at 2:25
What are you wearing Jake from State Farm?
After seeing the grim donut, everything else disappoints me now
Yeah
True, they need to take it to Whistler
yup
@@jacobkaltz1958 if they did the dirt merchant drop the head tube woulds snap
@@Jack-hy7bw yeah lol
RIP to the aluminum builds.
Teddy Lee they’ll be back. The last gen Nomad only came in carbon for the first year as well.
50/01
I just got my alloy Altitude they aren't all dead
just get a knolly, better price, better spec, better bike all round actually lol
Not sure they can sell many for the prices they ask. $3k Hightower D with SX and basic wheels/suspension or Ripmo AF Deore for only $200 more.
You guys should do another hardcore hardtail soon!
Just saw the green one, god damn I'm in love!
And I just bought a SC Hightower 2020 this summer.
It does look sick, I considered it (ended up getting Mach 6 in stealth) BUT I know after 6 months I'd get sick of it. If they made that pink yellow I'd have gone for it, but no go with the pink.
That’s a 29er tho so you need a Nomad too! Lol Feel free to use this in your defense case when the better half finds out.
Good review video, Kaz! Here's my tip for my Saints brake pads, I did " carefully" spread out the pads springs away from each other, to have the pads pushed against the pistons. It did the trick for me, hope that helps 🤘
This bike actually look SO good!
It is really expensive, but it's silly to compare its price and spec to a direct-sale bike like Propain or YT. Bikes sold in bike shops are always going to be relatively more expensive. If you don't want to pay the premium for a shop bike, that's understandable, but don't act shocked because they don't offer the same value as direct sales.
Trek is not a direct-sale brand but has reasonable prices
That geo sounds pretty ideal
Pretty much everyone knew it was Nomad SC was dropping next. I like the design of the new head tube, looks cool. Surprised to see them mix Rockshox with Fox, thats a new one. Why not just throw a Zeb up front or an X2 in back? One of the nicest looking frames out there. Looks like a great bike and fantastic video.
The finest of bike frame engineering and design. 👌🏻
It has not won design and innovation award so I don't think so. Santa Cruz only has one award for Stigmata in 2017, Merida on the other hand has had around 12
Nice Work Guys!
I feel a lot of the feedback about how it's very controlled and doesn't take you for a ride only suggests that 650b wheela has a lot to offer
Solid bike , both colours are awesome. I think the mixed shock combo is actually good. The Super Deluxe is really plush and the Fox Forks are simply the best. I bought a bike with 4 piston XT brakes and I m not experiencing the rattling ... maybe they re not all doing it. I don t have a bite point problem either.
Completely agree. It's not Nike and Adidas. You can't even see the shock all black, and if it bothers you that much just swap it out.
Hmmm…. The color on the C Model is ok but the cc version is insane 😜
Worth being up at midnight
I kinda expected something more, better really. Guess this is a cool update. Santa Cruz just really isn't that exciting to me these days I suppose. I'm sure some still like them though.
I agree I absolutely was amazed by them until I ride one. I rode the tallboy, 5010, and megatower and I didn’t really like any of them
Soooo I ordered when they had the 10% off, earlier this year. Is the a new bike compared to the one I ordered?
Because I could not choose this color...
Yes. This is the new 2021 nomad that was realeased yesterday
I don't know if they will ever release an alloy version again, there were so many customers complaints about cracked chainstays
Then claim the warranty. new frame for you. :)
Probably the best bike I've ever had! My tallboy climbs better but is no more agile. The megatower that preceded it was a faster tank, but what do you expect us who don't wear bibs to do with all that speed...
Lol.
@@alaindionne1641 il y aura toujours des critiques constructives, sinon ce ne sont que des relents ..
The bike that’s in the field test has been revealed yay!
My next bike.
Just added in my short list! What size would you recommend for a 5ft 9 person?
Keep up the good work guys!
A large, I'm a bit shorter than you and I have a large frame bike and it fits me very well.
@@richardkarakozian3800 Thanks a lot! Do you feel too stretched out over the bars or is it still upright when pedaling seated?
@@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 No, it feels pretty upright when I pedal seated. I'm sure it will fit you well. If you have any other questions, I have answers in my back pocket.
@@richardkarakozian3800 Thanks a lot, I appreciate it!
@@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 Anytime
i love santa cruz but my ocd kicks in when they pair a fox fork with rockshox shock even though it works rlly well and I totally wouldn't see a dpx2 on this
Is the xl nomad v5 not suggested for a tall rider due to the 27,5" tyres? Thanks
Would you pick this or the hightower?
When you get your TH-cam notification 5 days late...
Can you Test the Hightower 2021 pls?
Really impressed with my wife’s SC 5010 climbing with the 5010. Is the nomad going to be significantly worse climbing that the 5010?
How would this compare to the bronson
The fork crown is backwards in at least some of the shots - bike in the stand and when it's in the field and they're panning around it.
Not sure if it's also backwards in the riding shots.
if u look at vital mtbs bike review it looks as if it is backwards , u can also seee it in the thumbnail
@@stuartiannacci973 I think it might just be an optical illusion but it's not something I've picked up on before this review. Very weird.
@@SamFr1000 it could possibly be a. ew fork design or as u said a optical illusion, for reference the vital mtb is a fox factory kashima.
Maybe it’s the mudguard? The stickers are always facing forward so it’s probably an optical illusion
Can you guys review the “Canyon Spectral 27.5 cf 8” when it comes out? But can Mike Levy review it because he’s close to my height and I want to know which size he picks and how it fits.
doesnt he always ride a large?
Maybe send them a list of all the parts that you want to run so they can tailor the review just for you.
Hey Pinkbike, what is the soundtrack in 5:44?
63.7° headtube angle does not count as crazy on a non-dh bike anymore?
Nah, everything above 60 degrees counts as pretty conservative these days
@@rolux4853 Lmao facts
Anything above 57 degrees is so passé.
Roses are red
I like trees
Where the heck is Grim Donut part 3
I was hoping for a "swat" box or so. High end bikes all ride pretty well nowadays for casual joeys like me, so it comes down to neat little details.
I feel like all frames being made now a days should have some form of swat box. Especially as the lead designer of SC said its one of the things he's most gutted they never thought of. I mean even trek are doing it
And the price, SC are way over priced, the entry level ones have componentry that is well below the level expected for the price, and they are no better than other brands especially for average riders that do not push the bike to the limit where any subtle differences may show if there are any.
@@TheAllEngineering I used to think the same, but after owing the Nomad V4 for over a year i couldn't disagree more. The Nomad was my first bike that i really truly loved. No pedal bob, not much pedal kickback, enough progression but not too much so you can still setup up different shocks, etc.
I used to own a YT, Canyon etc because of the parts but now i would definitely choose a high end frame over parts. Plus every time something brakes you get excited to upgrade 😊😅
But i mean cheaper is always better, my comment relied on the price compared to other brands
@@JulienVollweiter If you climb at a sedate pace then pedal bob and inefficiency is not really an issue, but if you power it up then the forward momentum definitely does not match the power being put in. I rode HT and found it really bad when you ramped the power up, at a sedate pace it was ok.
When we look back on these videos 20 years from know we’ll be hard pressed to explain why they were filmed in a brewery and not in a bike shop.
Now I’m confused- thought the Bronson was all mountain and the Nomad was enduro.
I like the amount of travel this bike has, soaks up just about everything. But the rear feels loose all the time. I'm constantly checking tire pressure and spokes mid ride. I'm going to try carbon wheel set and if that doesn't fix it I'm gonna sell..
would recommend this bike for riding park
RECALL on 2020 nomad me being one of the unlucky ones BUT. my bike has been sitting at my local shop for a month now going to be 3 to 4 MONTHS before I get to ride again THANKS SANTA CRUZ FOR TAKING MY BIKE AWAY AND NOT CARING ABOUT THE LITTLE GUY
Is the decal colore real gold or more Kashima?
Ok simple question, what is the simplest way for me to measure sag on a coil shock on this frame ?
It's so damn awkward
Wait a minute, didn't vital mtb just do a video on this bike?
Yeah I just saw that lol
does this build have a short 37mm offset fork?
2021 - Long and slack, 2022 - Short and playful, 2023 - Long and slack, 2024 - Short and playful, 2025 - Long and slack, 2026 - Short and playful.
This is the mstery bike? :(
yeah really disappointing actually
LoL
We were all hoping it was a new forbidden
I wanted to see a Commencal. They win races all over the place, but no pinkbike coverage! Forbidden would have been nice to see as well!
Can we get a review of the Evil Wreckoning V3?
Man I hope!
Hey SC
Stop 👏 speccing👏 reverbs👏
Theres nothing wrong with the latest reverbs.
Still stuck in 2015, eh?
The current reverbs are brilliant, and if you don’t want it, just remove it. It’s not like you wouldn’t have money to do that.
@@xx-----------xx873 working in a shop, we keep getting issues with even the earliest models. With much cheaper and more reliable options on the market, i still think that this spec is just plain outdated. Until rockshox understands that hydraulic droppers aren't a thing, i'll keep this exact line of thought.
It's just one more thing to bleed. Let's keep oil in our brakes, where it makes an actual difference. Making the post go up faster by half a second won't make anyone choose the reverb over any other reliable cable actuated dropper; that is also probably cheaper.
Very impressed with the Cons. Im surprised that he didn't mention wheel size when talking about the reserve wheels.
What about the kona process x
how would it do at places like whistler
What a review ☝🏼
I also prefer black stantions
How come Pinkbike didn't review the 2020 Norco Range? That bike is 170-180 and comes with a coil.
Nomad also comes with a coil, you can decide yourself if you want coil or air shock...
@@lukenukem5953 no I meant why don’t they review a norco range
Is this the best climbing bike in the Santa Cruz lineup?
New bronson next year?
Summer 2021 per SC rep from my LBS.
stole the paint job right off my Norco sight.
When you get to trail bikes can you review the yeti arc
they already did trail bikes
64 degrees is the new 66
Could you guys please do one of these on a yt Capra base?
Do you have a stunt double?
Whats that blue bike in the intro?
Acto five p-train?
Actofive p train
Idk if I spelled that right
@@mtbsnowboard9107 damn. It looks sick
Nomad CS or specialized enduro expert. Please help!
I like both.
If you want to jump go for nomad! If you want to roll fast go for the enduro. Climbing is really the same. The nomad is more a freerider that you can pedal welland the enduro is more enduro bike that is pretty massive on the descending 👍
The problem is every bike on here is expensive as heck
You can get the Spindrift from as Low as 2599€ Mate. Insane value.
well that depends eh? the low end Spindrift in AL cost you 2,600. That is not that much , eh?
Good bikes are expensive
@@johannm7794 yeah I was looking at that but I think I like it a bit slacker, i wish they reviewed the canyon torque
@@outdoorsonly3399 Yeah that's Personal preference. I personally Just recently bought the Radon Swoop 10.0. You might wanns Check that Out Then. It's a Bit more Like the Canyon Torque but it has 29inch wheels and 170mm Front and Back. Components whise you get a 38 Performance Elite and Fox X2 and XT derailer for Just 3599€. Also very good value if you ask me (comes with Carbon Main frame as Well) ;)
The review on Vital references that Santa Cruz is specifically recommending not to mullet this bike. Does anybody have any SPECIFIC information on why that is?
Probably, because you will have to size up the front wheel, unless you want to go 27.5 up front and 26 in the rear.
Isnt this someone else riding the bike than Kazimer?
That’s what I thought.
so was this the secret bike?
You can't buy a bad SC. HT with factory 38, megneg, big rotors and sintered pads, there's nothing comes close. This would be no exception
180mm rotors aren’t big
I was really about to go to bed at 12:30 but no you guys just really wanted me up til 1 didn’t u
Why is it that every Santa Cruz and Specialized bike that comes out gets ultra mega reviewed, yet Rocky Mountains, Comenccal or Marin bikes get no love
Its a conspiracy... or Santa and Specialized consistently put out well developed and thought through products. By the way, commencal meta tr 29 won the pink bike field test for best budget trailbike this year!
@@Will.Tilcke i agree they get new models out every year, but how about giving other companies some airtime too, people entering the mtb world will think they need to buy this expensive ass bikes when there are many other options out there like for example the new Salsa bikes or as i was saying Marin Bikes, the oldest mountain bike company in the world.
Because they pay the bills.
@@burddog0792 hahahahah in that case i understand and respect it, we neeed Pinkbike
Even if Santa Cruz made an alloy nomad, Santa Cruz don’t stock alloy bikes in Australia 😭
This color in sunshine is really nice..What if its cloudy? 😂
Love the nomad!!
We still captions from Seth's bike hacks now?
today we’re doing something a little different, but kinda the same
YEEEEESSS
This wasn't on Levy's review....
I’m so happy
U knew it would be the new nomad!
I think that is the same bike that Gabe Itches bought
I rest my case for Forbidden.
How do the frames hold up and are they tested and inspected before sold to People like me??? Never doing that again
Huh? You need to elaborate what you mean. SC has a good rep when it comes to replacing cracked frames.
is till wish you guys had a canyon torque just for the price point
I'm really tired of people knocking on the shimano brake rattle. Dinging SC because of the brakes a con is stupid. I rather have the xt brakes over any of the shit sram brakes. Plus I prefer the older 2poc m8000 brakes over the new ones.
Is it electric??
Nope
Did you sing Karaoke last night?
I know this is stupid to say but it annoys me so much that santa cruz puts a fox fork with a rockshox shock on their bikes lol
@@Playwholeday Thank you for insulting me for no reason, I said "I know this is stupid to say but..." so I know its not important to have matching brands, I know the performance will be as good, it just annoys me because I like matching things. Nothing more. No reason to call someone stupid.
@@Playwholeday ok
The slow-mad
YT Capra shred please and thank you
And that is the "mysterious" bike? A freaking santacruz, come on boys.
Santa Cruz and Specialized --> So you wanna drop 6k for a build with SRAM NX? We got you
Isnt this bike to big?
I knew it was going to be a nomad
How many kidneys is $7399?
why?
Half
told you so