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You can be vegan without loving animals the same way you can decide not to murder your neighbours even if you don't love them. It _is_ possible to just accept that being deserve basic rights.
Your grammar is poor. It seems like you would be better off if you had more protein in your diet. I suggest adding more. 1. Beef 2. Chicken 3. Pork. 4. Fish. Pick one.
@@xPumaFangxAside from a typo the Grammar is fine. You seem constipated which explains your uptight attitude. Pick a fiber source: 1. Lentils 2. Chickpeas 3. Split Peas 4. Pinto Beans
@@frankchen4229 Bro, I love being upright. It is so much better than being uptight. It is good to eat meat. Protein really helps with memory. Lentils are ok. Chickpeas meh. Split peas are ok. Pintos are bla. I prefer red Lentlis. Have you ever had Lintils and Bratwarst stew? Boil a brat in a cast-iron pan until it's half full of water. Then, put some pasta in a pot and boil till it is soft and fluffy. Add a can of Amy's soup to the pasta. Then, slice the brat into meatballs. Brown the ends of the meat for that extra flavor. Add, the meat to the pasta and soup. Makes about two bowls of fill-you-up good.
Happy Thanksgiving! I was with the in-laws who aren't vegan. They did the wishbone thing with the kids and I was thinking, "The turkey wished not to die and it didn't work for them so why would it work for you?"
The dude who made the video you're reacting to seems like he just likes making dumb af videos to try and ruffle feathers to get easy views for all the wrong reasons. You made a great informative video ty darling.
The thing is that he's done this for so long that I start asking myself how much is comedy and how much is his actual ideas. Also, dunking on vegans has not been funny for the last 5 years, and if he wants to say something he could focus on more pressing issues, since he doesn't seem to be afraid of criticizing others.
I think the easier it is to be vegan the more people would do it. Because we humans often do the easiest option even if the more difficult option would be better for us. So this girl really does make a difference ❤
I actually said, "What?!" along with you @ 6:55, the whole thing is good for a laugh. I'm not fully vegan (vegetarian) but I am trying to replace as many things as possible with vegan options. We are living in lucky times with choices so why not try to do better.
earlier this week i decided to go back to being vegan like i was before, i been pescatarian for like a year but like for some reason hearing dumb arguments like this dudes video or like all the ones i been seeing in tiktok comment sections about that dumb butterball turkey drama made me realize im on the wrong side of history lol i wanna go back to veganism now
We're talking about the same guy that complained in the video that made his channel blow up, he couldn't order 'girly' drinks and had to have 'manly' drinks, whilst in his most recent anti vegan video is saying vegans are deficient in 'manliness'. It seems irony lost a little on this guy.
In my 35+ years of being vegan, I've seen much ignorance about what authentic veganism is and is not. The word "vegan" was coined by members of the Vegan Society (UK) in the late 1940s who were heavily influenced by Albert Schweitzer's writings on Reverence for Life. The definition still stands today and is as follows: "Veganism is a way of living which excludes all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, the animal kingdom, and includes a reverence and compassion for all life. It applies to the practice of living on the products of the plant kingdom to the exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, animal milk and its derivatives, and encourages the use of alternatives for all commodities derived wholly or in part from animals. Veganism remembers man's responsibilities to the earth and its resources and seeks to bring about a healthy soil and plant kingdom and a proper use of the materials of the earth."
I just can’t believe that meat eaters can sleep at night knowing about the suffering and torture or even seeing the footage and still continue paying for it 😞
I can't believe he's still making videos. He was funny when he was just some edgelord, but he's a tinfoil antivaxx toxic lolcow at this point. Somehow he used to work as a teacher.
In my 35+ years of being vegan, I've seen much ignorance about what authentic veganism is and is not. The word "vegan" was coined by members of the Vegan Society (UK) in the late 1940s and was heavily influenced by Albert Schweitzer's writings on Reverence for Life. The definition still stands today and is as follows: "Veganism is a way of living which excludes all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, the animal kingdom, and includes a reverence and compassion for all life. It applies to the practice of living on the products of the plant kingdom to the exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, animal milk and its derivatives, and encourages the use of alternatives for all commodities derived wholly or in part from animals. Veganism remembers man's responsibilities to the earth and its resources and seeks to bring about a healthy soil and plant kingdom and a proper use of the materials of the earth."
Veganism is not about suffering or harm, both of those welfarist ideas are from the 'New Welfarists' who seem to be trying to hijack the vegan movement to suit their welfare agenda. Veganism is about rights violations.
Huh? You can harm a plant, but it doesnt matter bc the plant does not suffer. So isnt it suffering that we care about? Why would harm matter if there is no suffering behind it?
As a Vegan of 8 years what I've observed from vegans I've known is that most are emotionally & intellectually bright! Although a lot of us are diagnosed/undiagnosed with ADHD, ADD or AUDHD...Whether that helps with being able to assimilate into the vegan lifestyle fully I don't know.
Yup! I've been vegan for 25 years, vegetarian since 1984, and I'm autistic. While I became vegetarian for ethical reasons, I often joke that it's been easy for me to be vegan for so long because I just don't like the taste, texture and mouthfeel of meat, fish and cheese. Also, I think about 80% of my vegan friends are neurodivergent, so I think you're making a strong case, here!
i've noticed the overlap here too! i'm audhd and i've been vegan for several years. neurodivergence definetly higher in vegan spaces. a lot of us have a strong sense of justice and are analytical. it also just works for my brain to have clear rules with good reasons
Oh wow I thought GradeAUnderA fell off like 10 years ago, guess he’ll do anything to reclaim an ounce of relevancy again. I’m kinda embarrassed to admit I use to like his videos like 10 years ago in my early 20s.
People do these ragebait videos because it gets views, both from people who agree, and vegans who are going to try to debate that, creating very welcome engagement (and getting pilled on by idiots and trolls). We don't need to suffer through watching that, it doesn't even try to make good arguments, it's lazy AF.
There are nonvegans who really believe what the nonvegan in this video said. There's a chance that this debunk video is next to the original nonvegan video.
11:40 There is a short clip of this girl cheering at the truck full of chicken that avoided a collision, saying: "yeah! all those chickens are gonna get to the farm safe!" and the boyfriends saying: "those chicken aren't going to a farm" and she starts crying! There is this kind of urge to cheer for "being nice to animals" and at the same time there is this urge to hide the head in the sand when confronted with certain realities.
I love your videos!! People just can't keep their opinions to themselves. The world would be a better place if we just respected each other. Alas, that's just too hard for some people.
I can't believe that there are still people who think that 'Ah, but what if you were stuck on a desert island' is an intelligent argument. I haven't heard that one since the early '80s and then, only a couple of times! 😂 Has anyone ever experienced someone 'joking' that vegans/vegetarians only eat rabbit food? Some guy tried that one on me and, honestly, I couldn't believe that anyone would say something so childish. Clearly, he realised the same because he mumbled an apology right after saying it! I recently came across a yt channel showcasing American stand-up comedians recently and noticed a trend among male comedians who, almost all at some point in their routine, would insert some trope-filled monologue about vegan men, insinuating that they were somehow less manly. I felt secondhand embarrassment just listening to them. I don't know if it's because those comedians felt intimidated by vegan men or if it was some unwritten rule that they couldn't perform at the venue unless they inserted at least one trope about vegan males. Definitely unnecessary and kind of disappointing when, in most cases, the rest of their material was really good and their act would have been much stronger without it. Sadly for the infantile, uninformed, reedy-voiced s#itweasel desperately trying to put down veganism, absolutely no one is ever going to accuse him of being funny. He's truly pathetic, isn't he? You just know that this is the kind of guy who is so unpopular that he has to invite himself to other people's social events. He's the kind of guy that other guys tolerate out of pity but can't get away from fast enough, the kind of guy that women either know to avoid or, soon learn to! To be fair though, it is actually impossible to come up with a logical argument against veganism but, jeez, he wasn't even trying, just mindlessly spouting any old nonsense in the vain hope that someone might find him vaguely anusing.
What would a meat eater do on a desert island? Eat their own limbs? Which living beings dwell on said island? Palm trees? Monkeys? Or is it just sand? Would there be fish in the nearby sea? Like, nobody would survive alone on a block of sand in the middle of a ginormous body of water without sweet water or food.
You are so right in everything you said! The only thing I would add about the manliness is that, I mean, I could maybe understand this argument if it was about hunting down a huge and dangerous animal (so definitely not cows) AND THEN eating it, but buying it at the supermarket and eating it DOEN NOT make anyone more masculine. Hunting it down obviously doesn't either, but culturally I can see where that comes from. You rock Rose! 😘
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c I don't know if that makes sense because people looking to build muscle usually go to supplement shops and they know about whey protein, for example, which is a powder (and not vegan of course), but I only mean to say it's not meat. It's all excuses in my opinion.
I keep on seeing vegans say that even second hand leather had been proven to contribute to popularity of leather and therefore to new animal leather being made
Just want to say - that I stopped eating meat to diminish a medical problem in 8/2017. My medical problem subsided within 30 days (during which I had to "suffer" from dreams of fried chicken and grilled cheese sandwiches). My health has improved and I now feel kinda good that fewer animals have to suffer or die because of my diet. Occasionally I eat eggs or cheese and so now technically I'm a vegetarian. I have not had another incidence of the medical problem since October 2022. I don't talk about my diet to people anymore because people get negative towards me. That's why I'm a vegetarian hermit. Peace to all!
Argument against buying second-hand leather: some non-vegan who's into leather could have bought it instead of you. Maybe you took a pair of shoes that girl wanted and now she'll go and buy a new pair of leather shoes. I don't understand what's the problem in buying second hand vegan shoes, it's also about saving resources. It was really strange how you said that leather is literally someone's skin and it's obnoxious, yet you're happy to wear it 😬
Your argument against is a really good point. However, I think the argument for is that buying second-hand (second foot??) leather is better for the planet than buying something new of ANYTHING, so they'd still be saving resources. It's a lot more hardwearing than other materials, plus second-hand vegan shoes may not be available (not everyone shops online). Like you, I personally couldn't wear it, but I'm fortunate to live in a big city where I have a lot of options.
The thing about the whole deserted island thing is like... First off, are you planning on kidnapping me? In what situation would I, a person who lives in the landlocked US Midwest and doesn't travel, especially by plane, end up on a deserted island? And then second, and most importantly, would I eat meat in that situation? No, but it has nothing to do with being vegan. I've been a city girl my whole life. You think I can make my own hunting weapons, clean an animal I successfully hunted, and make a fire on an island by myself? No! I don't know how to do any of that! Or is there just a steak dinner on this hypothetical island? But I don't think that second option is likely. No, I'll try eating some berries I find and then probably get poisoned bc I don't know tropical berry species. Which is also what I'd probably do if I wasn't vegan, because I never learned wilderness survival skills.
As a vegan, I'd never kill an apex predator but I've never been opposed to taking apex predators off the endangered species list. As Batman once said, "I'm won't kill you, but I don't have to save you."
speaking of... uh... hitler... isnt this the guy who defended using a nazi-esque antisemitic caricature of a money-hungry jewish man in multiple video thumbnails? yeah, im not about to let *that* guy call me rude and arrogant.
My daughter & I are vegan, I brought her up that way, but we go through what I say discrimination, don’t take it wrong, but we are discriminated against, like Vegan is another minority, that’s what we are compared to, even with family, hope that doesn’t offend anyone, but that’s the way it feels!😊 we don’t judge anyone for what they eat, that’s what they don’t understand, that’s there prerogative, so why judge Vegans?
Rose isn't dumb and neither are all vegans. It is the haters and non vegans that are dumb for eating and exploiting animals. Thanks 👍 for sharing this reaction video beautiful Rose love 🥰 the video and love 💞 Rose.
Rose, you definitely look younger than 36, girl! 🙌🌹IMO, your regular exercise and vegan lifestyle are as important as your genetics. Going on 5 years vegan & more active than ever here.🌱
these are simply logical fallacies. My dad used to say to us as kids, learn the logical fallacies so you don't have to go crazy trying to debate craazzzzeeeee
So just for context, GradeAUnderA tends to fall into controversy videos, then disappears for a long while, then comes back with lighthearted content. It's a cycle for him. He's not exclusively anti-vegan content.
@clairebear1207 I don't think that long. Maybe a year, two years tops. I was following him before the whole youtube beef bananza. I swear, everyone was starting beef just for views.
What's really insane is that people would rather stick to their comforts and not care if they're causing harm or suffering to anyone around them or themselves That's how lost these people are they're freaking lost . They are so lost They have no idea .
I believe they do have moral agency, lions. I think that’s also why they choose the sickly weak ones first. There have been some domesticated vegetarian diet feed lions in around the 70’s who lived long and faired well, some may be alive today, likely are. Science will continue to aid our revolution, of course. Thanks again for the upload. ☮️ and 💚 vegan sis.
🥺Lactose-ovo vegetarian, carnist husband’s family usually pick animal based and only half pretend to be aware and listen when I am around. They ooh and ah at their cats, tortoise, chihuahua- but not horrified of eggs and dairy, voiceless animals who do not wished to be suffering. Not another green beans tucked in the middle of a roll and hot tea Thanksgiving 😞not filling, even called ahead a day and was told the staff knows what to do 🤪 Rose is responding to Southpark characters 😂Happy rest day Rose 😊
Rose, you bring up great points in your review. I've never understood the hate for Vegans. Even if folks don't want to be Vegan (yep, I use capital V for Vegan ❤) any way, why take away any one's right to choose their own diet and belief system. I'm an on again off again Vegan. I'm not going to explain that but I must admit I feel better on a Vegan diet. My body and mind prefer it.
Btw, he probably didn't even have a vegan be "mean" to him in real life - he probably decided to watch a video of someone like Vegan Gains and then whine that Vegan Gains was rude. Dude, don't watch the video then. I don't think most vegans are actually "mean" to non-vegans irl. (And it's still no excuse anyway, as Rose explained.)
Thank you for this analysis of an anti-vegan argument, if one can call it an argument since it lacks the essential logic of a real argument. I'm not aware of such venom against vegans. None of my meat eating friends have ever made a complaint about me being vegan. If anyone ever asks why I'm vegan, which they don't usually do, I say simply that it's a kindness strategy. I'm going to try and track down the vegans are stupid video and make a kind comment. Wow, that's a challenge!
One thing he has right is that he doesn’t understand vegans. I’m not vegan, but do eat vegan foods often enough. My USA style Thanksgiving was almost all vegan, except for one thing but I’m vegetarian not vegan.
Thank you for making this response people with such blatantly stupid logic REALLY humble my patience 😅. I tried looking at the video and it's comments and it almost immediately made my patience run thinner than a human hair. Thank you again for doing this I really appreciate your bravery and patience. I've only been vegan for 10 months and I deeply admire your work thank you. Stay vegan 🌱!
My daughter told e the other day that Butterball Turkey was beating and having sex with the Turkeys before slaughtering them, so I looked it up and found the hidden video animal rights put a hidden camera. They were bragging about how they beat the turkey so hard there eyeballs fell out. After watching this video I will never eat it again and I wonder what else goes on that we don't know about. I am looking for good dog food and cat food that is vegetarian and gives them all their protein needs. Do you have any recipes for pets?
I would say that cats are obligate carnivores and require meat in their diet to be healthy. Dogs are considered to be omnivores like Humans. So they do have vegan friendly dog food. Cats require special amino acids not readily available in plant foods. The extra fibre can also impact their digestive tract and kidneys. My suggestion, talk to your vet about dog food options. Some dogs have allergies to meat. So at the very least. Vegetarian dog food exists. Hope that helps.
My labradoodle retriever is now 13, has very few problems and still has the energy of a puppy! He’s been eating V dog since I adopted him at a few months old. He also gets fresh steamed veggies and grains with his dinner. The vet has always been impressed with his health. It’s definitely doable with dogs, however I wouldn’t recommend doing it with cats as they are true carnivores. I would try to source the best quality food for them possible, remembering that being a vegan is not about perfection but minimizing suffering as much as possible. Don’t feel guilty for feeding your cat the best options available, that’s really all you can do! Good luck ❤️
I'm not vegan 100% but I highly appreciate vegan people because they are tremendously consistent with their thoughts. That being said, you may not agree with the vegans' choices but at least don't talk nonsense and get some information. Who posted that video is simply ignorant, well...deeply ignorant without any hope to be a better person.
Rose, sweetie you are using way to much energy arguing with stupid. Sometimes you have to let it go. They aren't going to get it or even want to. Love your vids and your passion. But I don't have much hope.💮🌸🏵🐞
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The hate we get for not wanting to hurt or exploit animals, baffles me.
Right???
Yeah I really don't get it...
@lmcarolinek It's only because people love the taste of bacon more than they love the taste of uncomfortable facts.
How dare us care about things! I get made fun of caring about things in my family.
This.
You can be vegan without loving animals the same way you can decide not to murder your neighbours even if you don't love them. It _is_ possible to just accept that being deserve basic rights.
Exactly. You don’t need to love animals, you just need to not want to cause suffering and harm
that's exactly my point of view
Your grammar is poor. It seems like you would be better off if you had more protein in your diet. I suggest adding more.
1. Beef
2. Chicken
3. Pork.
4. Fish.
Pick one.
@@xPumaFangxAside from a typo the Grammar is fine.
You seem constipated which explains your uptight attitude.
Pick a fiber source:
1. Lentils
2. Chickpeas
3. Split Peas
4. Pinto Beans
@@frankchen4229 Bro, I love being upright. It is so much better than being uptight.
It is good to eat meat. Protein really helps with memory.
Lentils are ok.
Chickpeas meh.
Split peas are ok.
Pintos are bla.
I prefer red Lentlis.
Have you ever had Lintils and Bratwarst stew? Boil a brat in a cast-iron pan until it's half full of water.
Then, put some pasta in a pot and boil till it is soft and fluffy. Add a can of Amy's soup to the pasta. Then, slice the brat into meatballs. Brown the ends of the meat for that extra flavor.
Add, the meat to the pasta and soup.
Makes about two bowls of fill-you-up good.
Rose, you are a treasure and delight!
haha you are so sweet Mary!!
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Happy Thanksgiving! I was with the in-laws who aren't vegan. They did the wishbone thing with the kids and I was thinking, "The turkey wished not to die and it didn't work for them so why would it work for you?"
I can't stand when people pretend that being vegan isn't very normal. There's nothing extreme or radical about it, it's just basic empathy.
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The dude who made the video you're reacting to seems like he just likes making dumb af videos to try and ruffle feathers to get easy views for all the wrong reasons. You made a great informative video ty darling.
The thing is that he's done this for so long that I start asking myself how much is comedy and how much is his actual ideas. Also, dunking on vegans has not been funny for the last 5 years, and if he wants to say something he could focus on more pressing issues, since he doesn't seem to be afraid of criticizing others.
I'd be willing to bet a kidney that he's asked more than one vegan what they'd do if they were stranded on a desert island with only a chicken...
god I can't imagine doing such a thing lol
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I think the easier it is to be vegan the more people would do it. Because we humans often do the easiest option even if the more difficult option would be better for us.
So this girl really does make a difference ❤
I actually said, "What?!" along with you @ 6:55, the whole thing is good for a laugh. I'm not fully vegan (vegetarian) but I am trying to replace as many things as possible with vegan options. We are living in lucky times with choices so why not try to do better.
I always love pissed off Rose. She comes out so rarely but she serves every time.
💯 facts 🔥
Holy cringe💀
hahahha!
When you know better do better. Do no harm. Coming from a healthcare professional, this was what we were taught in school. Thank you for this video 😊
Meat eaters live longer than all dumb vegans. I don't want your gross supplements
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earlier this week i decided to go back to being vegan like i was before, i been pescatarian for like a year but like for some reason hearing dumb arguments like this dudes video or like all the ones i been seeing in tiktok comment sections about that dumb butterball turkey drama made me realize im on the wrong side of history lol i wanna go back to veganism now
indeed, the world is insane.
Awww well good luck!!! You got this❤
Good choice ❤
From your statement you are not going to be on the right side of history.
Welcome back to the anti-animal-abuse cult!
btw i LOVE LOVE LOVE your woodland wallpaper ♥️ and your amazing recipes of course!!
The wallpaper is by Nathalie Lété, I recognized her art instantly!
Came here to say this. Love the wallpaper and my little vegan daughter and I love your show Rose!
thank you!!! love my wallpaper too hehe
We're talking about the same guy that complained in the video that made his channel blow up, he couldn't order 'girly' drinks and had to have 'manly' drinks, whilst in his most recent anti vegan video is saying vegans are deficient in 'manliness'. It seems irony lost a little on this guy.
Omg lollllll
In my 35+ years of being vegan, I've seen much ignorance about what authentic veganism is and is not.
The word "vegan" was coined by members of the Vegan Society (UK) in the late 1940s who were heavily influenced by Albert Schweitzer's writings on Reverence for Life. The definition still stands today and is as follows:
"Veganism is a way of living which excludes all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, the animal kingdom, and includes a reverence and compassion for all life. It applies to the practice of living on the products of the plant kingdom to the exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, animal milk and its derivatives, and encourages the use of alternatives for all commodities derived wholly or in part from animals.
Veganism remembers man's responsibilities to the earth and its resources and seeks to bring about a healthy soil and plant kingdom and a proper use of the materials of the earth."
Wonderful contribution to understanding the term vegan. Thank you.
I just can’t believe that meat eaters can sleep at night knowing about the suffering and torture or even seeing the footage and still continue paying for it 😞
It’s like they’re all desensitized and it’s just sick 😕
We love you Rose
Thank you 🥹🥹
Omfg! The person who made that video hurt my head. Thanks for using logic. ❤
I can't believe he's still making videos. He was funny when he was just some edgelord,
but he's a tinfoil antivaxx toxic lolcow at this point. Somehow he used to work as a teacher.
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3:15 Not animal suffering, animal exploitation. Suffering is part of life.
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Awesome clapback sis 👏✊🌱❤🔥
It's not about suffering, it's about harm. We're trying to minimize the harm that we do to animals. Love the video.
In my 35+ years of being vegan, I've seen much ignorance about what authentic veganism is and is not.
The word "vegan" was coined by members of the Vegan Society (UK) in the late 1940s and was heavily influenced by Albert Schweitzer's writings on Reverence for Life. The definition still stands today and is as follows:
"Veganism is a way of living which excludes all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, the animal kingdom, and includes a reverence and compassion for all life. It applies to the practice of living on the products of the plant kingdom to the exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, animal milk and its derivatives, and encourages the use of alternatives for all commodities derived wholly or in part from animals.
Veganism remembers man's responsibilities to the earth and its resources and seeks to bring about a healthy soil and plant kingdom and a proper use of the materials of the earth."
Exactly. Thank you for watching ❤
Veganism is not about suffering or harm, both of those welfarist ideas are from the 'New Welfarists' who seem to be trying to hijack the vegan movement to suit their welfare agenda. Veganism is about rights violations.
Huh? You can harm a plant, but it doesnt matter bc the plant does not suffer. So isnt it suffering that we care about? Why would harm matter if there is no suffering behind it?
it's both.
As a Vegan of 8 years what I've observed from vegans I've known is that most are emotionally & intellectually bright! Although a lot of us are diagnosed/undiagnosed with ADHD, ADD or AUDHD...Whether that helps with being able to assimilate into the vegan lifestyle fully I don't know.
such a good point you brought up
Yup! I've been vegan for 25 years, vegetarian since 1984, and I'm autistic. While I became vegetarian for ethical reasons, I often joke that it's been easy for me to be vegan for so long because I just don't like the taste, texture and mouthfeel of meat, fish and cheese. Also, I think about 80% of my vegan friends are neurodivergent, so I think you're making a strong case, here!
i've noticed the overlap here too! i'm audhd and i've been vegan for several years. neurodivergence definetly higher in vegan spaces. a lot of us have a strong sense of justice and are analytical. it also just works for my brain to have clear rules with good reasons
@@tesstakes That's a really interesting take that I'd never considered before, but makes SO MUCH SENSE.
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Oh wow I thought GradeAUnderA fell off like 10 years ago, guess he’ll do anything to reclaim an ounce of relevancy again. I’m kinda embarrassed to admit I use to like his videos like 10 years ago in my early 20s.
Yeah he hasn’t been the same since 2016.
People do these ragebait videos because it gets views, both from people who agree, and vegans who are going to try to debate that, creating very welcome engagement (and getting pilled on by idiots and trolls).
We don't need to suffer through watching that, it doesn't even try to make good arguments, it's lazy AF.
There are nonvegans who really believe what the nonvegan in this video said. There's a chance that this debunk video is next to the original nonvegan video.
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11:40 There is a short clip of this girl cheering at the truck full of chicken that avoided a collision, saying: "yeah! all those chickens are gonna get to the farm safe!" and the boyfriends saying: "those chicken aren't going to a farm" and she starts crying! There is this kind of urge to cheer for "being nice to animals" and at the same time there is this urge to hide the head in the sand when confronted with certain realities.
I love your videos!! People just can't keep their opinions to themselves. The world would be a better place if we just respected each other. Alas, that's just too hard for some people.
It's fine to discuss your opinions and better yourself, but it's not fine to hold those opinions when they don't hold up to scrutiny.
Thank you! ❤
I can't believe that there are still people who think that 'Ah, but what if you were stuck on a desert island' is an intelligent argument. I haven't heard that one since the early '80s and then, only a couple of times! 😂 Has anyone ever experienced someone 'joking' that vegans/vegetarians only eat rabbit food? Some guy tried that one on me and, honestly, I couldn't believe that anyone would say something so childish. Clearly, he realised the same because he mumbled an apology right after saying it! I recently came across a yt channel showcasing American stand-up comedians recently and noticed a trend among male comedians who, almost all at some point in their routine, would insert some trope-filled monologue about vegan men, insinuating that they were somehow less manly. I felt secondhand embarrassment just listening to them. I don't know if it's because those comedians felt intimidated by vegan men or if it was some unwritten rule that they couldn't perform at the venue unless they inserted at least one trope about vegan males. Definitely unnecessary and kind of disappointing when, in most cases, the rest of their material was really good and their act would have been much stronger without it.
Sadly for the infantile, uninformed, reedy-voiced s#itweasel desperately trying to put down veganism, absolutely no one is ever going to accuse him of being funny. He's truly pathetic, isn't he? You just know that this is the kind of guy who is so unpopular that he has to invite himself to other people's social events. He's the kind of guy that other guys tolerate out of pity but can't get away from fast enough, the kind of guy that women either know to avoid or, soon learn to!
To be fair though, it is actually impossible to come up with a logical argument against veganism but, jeez, he wasn't even trying, just mindlessly spouting any old nonsense in the vain hope that someone might find him vaguely anusing.
What would a meat eater do on a desert island? Eat their own limbs? Which living beings dwell on said island? Palm trees? Monkeys? Or is it just sand? Would there be fish in the nearby sea? Like, nobody would survive alone on a block of sand in the middle of a ginormous body of water without sweet water or food.
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You are so right in everything you said! The only thing I would add about the manliness is that, I mean, I could maybe understand this argument if it was about hunting down a huge and dangerous animal (so definitely not cows) AND THEN eating it, but buying it at the supermarket and eating it DOEN NOT make anyone more masculine. Hunting it down obviously doesn't either, but culturally I can see where that comes from. You rock Rose! 😘
Some nonvegans said they think only meat has protein. Some men really like protein for muscle.
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c I don't know if that makes sense because people looking to build muscle usually go to supplement shops and they know about whey protein, for example, which is a powder (and not vegan of course), but I only mean to say it's not meat. It's all excuses in my opinion.
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Liberate all beings that we can from oppression, everyone desserv at least a chance for a decent life, thats what makes us humane.
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I keep on seeing vegans say that even second hand leather had been proven to contribute to popularity of leather and therefore to new animal leather being made
Well there is now prove for that. So does not make sense yet at least haha.
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Just want to say - that I stopped eating meat to diminish a medical problem in 8/2017. My medical problem subsided within 30 days (during which I had to "suffer" from dreams of fried chicken and grilled cheese sandwiches). My health has improved and I now feel kinda good that fewer animals have to suffer or die because of my diet. Occasionally I eat eggs or cheese and so now technically I'm a vegetarian. I have not had another incidence of the medical problem since October 2022. I don't talk about my diet to people anymore because people get negative towards me. That's why I'm a vegetarian hermit. Peace to all!
Argument against buying second-hand leather: some non-vegan who's into leather could have bought it instead of you. Maybe you took a pair of shoes that girl wanted and now she'll go and buy a new pair of leather shoes. I don't understand what's the problem in buying second hand vegan shoes, it's also about saving resources.
It was really strange how you said that leather is literally someone's skin and it's obnoxious, yet you're happy to wear it 😬
Your argument against is a really good point. However, I think the argument for is that buying second-hand (second foot??) leather is better for the planet than buying something new of ANYTHING, so they'd still be saving resources. It's a lot more hardwearing than other materials, plus second-hand vegan shoes may not be available (not everyone shops online). Like you, I personally couldn't wear it, but I'm fortunate to live in a big city where I have a lot of options.
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Thanks for keeping vegan alive.
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Great video, been watching for years and love the variety you're able to do! Their points are so bad I seriously was expecting better haha.
I think this dude is rage baiting.
He was doing rage-baiting before it became so popular
The thing about the whole deserted island thing is like... First off, are you planning on kidnapping me? In what situation would I, a person who lives in the landlocked US Midwest and doesn't travel, especially by plane, end up on a deserted island? And then second, and most importantly, would I eat meat in that situation? No, but it has nothing to do with being vegan. I've been a city girl my whole life. You think I can make my own hunting weapons, clean an animal I successfully hunted, and make a fire on an island by myself? No! I don't know how to do any of that! Or is there just a steak dinner on this hypothetical island? But I don't think that second option is likely. No, I'll try eating some berries I find and then probably get poisoned bc I don't know tropical berry species. Which is also what I'd probably do if I wasn't vegan, because I never learned wilderness survival skills.
Rose, your spiciness is always a delight.
As a vegan, I'd never kill an apex predator but I've never been opposed to taking apex predators off the endangered species list. As Batman once said, "I'm won't kill you, but I don't have to save you."
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speaking of... uh... hitler...
isnt this the guy who defended using a nazi-esque antisemitic caricature of a money-hungry jewish man in multiple video thumbnails? yeah, im not about to let *that* guy call me rude and arrogant.
Love ya work, thanks for sharing rose!! Always appreciate hearing ur take
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My daughter & I are vegan, I brought her up that way, but we go through what I say discrimination, don’t take it wrong, but we are discriminated against, like Vegan is another minority, that’s what we are compared to, even with family, hope that doesn’t offend anyone, but that’s the way it feels!😊 we don’t judge anyone for what they eat, that’s what they don’t understand, that’s there prerogative, so why judge Vegans?
Rose isn't dumb and neither are all vegans. It is the haters and non vegans that are dumb for eating and exploiting animals. Thanks 👍 for sharing this reaction video beautiful Rose love 🥰 the video and love 💞 Rose.
Shut up and go eat your supplements dummy. Meat eaters and even vegetarians live longer than you.
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If I could hit like on this 20 million times I would
Me too!!!!!
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Rose, you definitely look younger than 36, girl! 🙌🌹IMO, your regular exercise and vegan lifestyle are as important as your genetics. Going on 5 years vegan & more active than ever here.🌱
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these are simply logical fallacies. My dad used to say to us as kids, learn the logical fallacies so you don't have to go crazy trying to debate craazzzzeeeee
People nowadays seen more chopped up animals then live one and they don't think it's wrong
Ahhhhh....dear lord. I guess I too am dumb Vegan....thank goodness because buddy's logic is daft.
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Wow I’m really digging spicy Rose LOL, love this energy ❤ 🌱
Rose, thank you so much for speaking up for the voiceless!💚💚💚💚💚
Love you, Rose ❤ been following you for 6 almost 7 years now since i went vegan
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Love seeing a justifiably aggressive Rose! Keep them thornes coming!
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Why does this guy actually sound like Terrence and Phillip?
The only thing I liked about that video is that it has led me to sub to CLV! 🌱💚
So just for context, GradeAUnderA tends to fall into controversy videos, then disappears for a long while, then comes back with lighthearted content. It's a cycle for him. He's not exclusively anti-vegan content.
Yeah wasn’t he gone for like 2 or 3 years?
@clairebear1207 I don't think that long. Maybe a year, two years tops. I was following him before the whole youtube beef bananza. I swear, everyone was starting beef just for views.
@ haha yeah good ole 2016 youtube days with Leafy and all of those weirdos.
GREAT JOB ROSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🎉
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them: I don't want to be a vegan because they're angry and rude!
me: then just be a vegan who isn't angry or rude.
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I'm vegan and I feel good, and love all thangs, I been vegan for 14 years, group men.
What's really insane is that people would rather stick to their comforts and not care if they're causing harm or suffering to anyone around them or themselves That's how lost these people are they're freaking lost . They are so lost They have no idea .
Keep your passion!! So many haters around.....
That's Grade A Under A's thing. He does rage bait.
Rose, tell me please, where did you get your wallpaper in the background? It’s gorgeous!
Someone in the comments said it's by Nathalie Lété.
I’m 41 and most people think I’m younger. I contribute it to my 1/4 Filipino lol.
lol I noticed most of the singers in Vietnam are placed with half Chinese. 😂
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One this Rose! I don’t understand these kind of folks who take the time to come up with stupid questions!
I believe they do have moral agency, lions. I think that’s also why they choose the sickly weak ones first. There have been some domesticated vegetarian diet feed lions in around the 70’s who lived long and faired well, some may be alive today, likely are. Science will continue to aid our revolution, of course. Thanks again for the upload. ☮️ and 💚 vegan sis.
My mans logic train is quite lacking, and yet he calls vegans the stupid ones??😂😂 My mans has room temperature iq😂😂
Rose hats off to you. You have so much more patience and energy than I could ever with idiots like that.
I had to look up what "AF" means. It mean "as f*ck". Is that correct?
That's correct
This guy is probably strawmanning vegan's pov on purpose.
🥺Lactose-ovo vegetarian, carnist husband’s family usually pick animal based and only half pretend to be aware and listen when I am around. They ooh and ah at their cats, tortoise, chihuahua- but not horrified of eggs and dairy, voiceless animals who do not wished to be suffering. Not another green beans tucked in the middle of a roll and hot tea Thanksgiving 😞not filling, even called ahead a day and was told the staff knows what to do 🤪
Rose is responding to Southpark characters 😂Happy rest day Rose 😊
@23.:39 we are the apex predators of the egg laying hens, is he sure he knows what he's asking us to do here???
GradeA is the best! And KFC is so good
I stopped watching that "Grade A" channel. Nasty bullying isn't funny.
Dumb vegan here. I’ve been dumb (and happy) for 7-1/2 years! 😂
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Rose, you bring up great points in your review. I've never understood the hate for Vegans. Even if folks don't want to be Vegan (yep, I use capital V for Vegan ❤) any way, why take away any one's right to choose their own diet and belief system.
I'm an on again off again Vegan. I'm not going to explain that but I must admit I feel better on a Vegan diet. My body and mind prefer it.
Btw, he probably didn't even have a vegan be "mean" to him in real life - he probably decided to watch a video of someone like Vegan Gains and then whine that Vegan Gains was rude. Dude, don't watch the video then. I don't think most vegans are actually "mean" to non-vegans irl. (And it's still no excuse anyway, as Rose explained.)
Top-notch response, Rose! 👏👏👏
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Oh my! He literally uses Vegan Gains' face in his video and then says that vegans are weak! 🤯 Richard benched over 400lbs!
Right on
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Thank you for this analysis of an anti-vegan argument, if one can call it an argument since it lacks the essential logic of a real argument. I'm not aware of such venom against vegans. None of my meat eating friends have ever made a complaint about me being vegan. If anyone ever asks why I'm vegan, which they don't usually do, I say simply that it's a kindness strategy. I'm going to try and track down the vegans are stupid video and make a kind comment. Wow, that's a challenge!
Love your take on this person's DAF video! The lack of logic in this person's arguments is mind-boggling. Well done, Rose!
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👏👏👏 love these videos ! Some people are just absolutely clueless !
Yet they think they’re so smart 😂😢
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Yesss love your response!!
Not at all on topic, but I love your hair this color. ❤
hey rose i guess im a dumb vegan ❤😂
So I shouldn't save a human, unless they are vegan..lol
One thing he has right is that he doesn’t understand vegans.
I’m not vegan, but do eat vegan foods often enough. My USA style Thanksgiving was almost all vegan, except for one thing but I’m vegetarian not vegan.
I don't know if that was actually somebody's real voice or they somehow created a voice for that video, but it's a poorly made video in itself.
We are the normal ones. Gary Null
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Thank you for making this response people with such blatantly stupid logic REALLY humble my patience 😅. I tried looking at the video and it's comments and it almost immediately made my patience run thinner than a human hair. Thank you again for doing this I really appreciate your bravery and patience. I've only been vegan for 10 months and I deeply admire your work thank you. Stay vegan 🌱!
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@Cheap Lazy Vegan, where do you get the idea from that veganism is about "minimizing animal suffering"?
My daughter told e the other day that Butterball Turkey was beating and having sex with the Turkeys before slaughtering them, so I looked it up and found the hidden video animal rights put a hidden camera. They were bragging about how they beat the turkey so hard there eyeballs fell out. After watching this video I will never eat it again and I wonder what else goes on that we don't know about. I am looking for good dog food and cat food that is vegetarian and gives them all their protein needs. Do you have any recipes for pets?
I would say that cats are obligate carnivores and require meat in their diet to be healthy. Dogs are considered to be omnivores like Humans. So they do have vegan friendly dog food. Cats require special amino acids not readily available in plant foods. The extra fibre can also impact their digestive tract and kidneys. My suggestion, talk to your vet about dog food options. Some dogs have allergies to meat. So at the very least. Vegetarian dog food exists. Hope that helps.
My labradoodle retriever is now 13, has very few problems and still has the energy of a puppy! He’s been eating V dog since I adopted him at a few months old. He also gets fresh steamed veggies and grains with his dinner. The vet has always been impressed with his health. It’s definitely doable with dogs, however I wouldn’t recommend doing it with cats as they are true carnivores. I would try to source the best quality food for them possible, remembering that being a vegan is not about perfection but minimizing suffering as much as possible. Don’t feel guilty for feeding your cat the best options available, that’s really all you can do! Good luck ❤️
Lions only live ten-ish years so eating meat isn't working out too well for them :/
I'm not vegan 100% but I highly appreciate vegan people because they are tremendously consistent with their thoughts.
That being said, you may not agree with the vegans' choices but at least don't talk nonsense and get some information.
Who posted that video is simply ignorant, well...deeply ignorant without any hope to be a better person.
Rose, sweetie you are using way to much energy arguing with stupid. Sometimes you have to let it go. They aren't going to get it or even want to. Love your vids and your passion. But I don't have much hope.💮🌸🏵🐞
I bought that bundle fast af!!
It's about life and death. I don't eat death.