25 years of Pokhran-2: Inside story of India's top secret, audacious 9-year op to build nuclear bomb
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Wrapped in secrecy & spanning tenure of seven PMs, India's long march to nuclear weaponisation culminated in Pokhran-2 25 years ago today. In Episode 1128 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta recollects the most spectacular & successful secret operation in India’s history.
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I am trying hard to find links, when sekhar sir says links in the description below, but I don’t see them, like kakodar sir walk the talk interview. Could you please help me to locate.
laughable. "No seismic evidence of the May 13 tests has been found to date. Both tests on this date were reported sub-kiloton by the Indian government. Local villagers were not evacuated (as they were on May 11), and did not feel any tremors" lol
No evidence for the failed May 13 test, yet you compare your weapons to Pakistan, where international observers saw seismic signals for May 28 and May 30? lol Don't believe me look up nuclear testing data for india and pakistan from seismo berkeley, an independent varifiable source of nuclear testing data. Hopefully this will bring some delusional indians into reality. haha
@@RamanaYarasani laughable. "No seismic evidence of the May 13 tests has been found to date. Both tests on this date were reported sub-kiloton by the Indian government. Local villagers were not evacuated (as they were on May 11), and did not feel any tremors" lol
No evidence for the failed May 13 test, yet you compare your weapons to Pakistan, where international observers saw seismic signals for May 28 and May 30? lol Don't believe me look up nuclear testing data for india and pakistan from seismo berkeley, an independent varifiable source of nuclear testing data. Hopefully this will bring some delusional indians into reality. haha
Vajpayee himself had said that Narsimha Rao was the true father of India's nuclear programme. When Rajiv Gandhi formed the secret committee, Narsimha Rao was India's foreign minister and he was kept informed about it. This turned out to be fortunate as he was able to take it forward when he became Prime Minister. This story is told in detail in the book "Half Lion" which is a biography of Narsimha Rao. The book also refers to Shekhar Gupta's interview with Narsimha Rao shortly before he died.
But didn’t India’s Gandhi start the whole thing by approving the first implosion which was the reason for the first set of sanctions from the west
I feel so proud listening to this story....... May God bless each and every soul involved in this work.... everyone right from its conception to the final outcome......and may God bless our country 🙏
your god is cow
hahahah
china took ladakh.. cow only pissed
Really. Whenever I listen to such stories my eyes tear up out of pride for those great people.
And by the way, I am lucky to have interacted one on one with Dr Kakodkar in 2019. It was with childlike enthusiasm that I spent the day with him!😁
@@BilluKhan-df9kr what is wrong with you?
@@georgeramapuram
whats wrong? are you christian?
but cow is hindu god
Simply beautiful. I am proud of our democracy. I am delighted to hear this CTC.
truly phenomenal operation...shekar ji, i beg you to a 2 hr documentary on this. If you can get all the visual or audio aids etc, and takes too much effort, dont bother...just your narration on this subject will hold us glued and fill us with pride...Thank you for marking this wonderful anniversary...please do seriously consider doing a longer version. To do justice to the great men and women who were part of this....Phenomenal is an understatement!!! 🙏🙏🙏
It is a wonderful suggestion, Srinivas ji. I will certainly keep it mind. Thank you for this...best wishes, Shekhar
Naman to our patriotic bhoomiputras - Atalji, Kalam sir & rest of our scientific team 🇮🇳
both the test started by farsighted Gandhi
@@VikasKumar-co8mr oh please. We saw what the family did with the likes of Bhabha. Indira was the only sane patriotic one but after creating the monster called Bhindrawale, she lost respect.
Prime example of what happens when people in power keep nation and its interests ahead of politics enimity. Kudos to the team who worked pull of this miracle. Wishing you luck for more achievements 🎉
Well said. National interests over political interests.
The journey of Pokharan 2 is an account of how mature our democracy is. We kept the biggest secret hidden in that time when we had worst political instability.
A story which brings pride to every Indian ❤
Oh Brilliant saga … kept me gripped all through .
“ Buddha indeed smiled twice “ without his disciples knowing aa to what’s going on .
Just love it when Shekhar sir goes into story mode.
Loved hearing about things that happened when I was 3 years old
Dr. Anil Kakodkar is a Konkani by birth. He hails from India's smallest state. He spent years across many geographies. It's remarkable to see him lead such a vital program.
Just one more bit of information... Dr. Anil Kakodkar studied from Karnatak College Dharwad
Being from Karnataka and Konkani, I am surprised I never knew this.
He is Marathi.
@@rakeshnipanikar2316 Nope. He is a Goan. His father was a Goan freedom fighter. Similar case as Rajdeep Sardesai. You can keep Rajdeep for Maharashtra. Goa will be happy with that.
I requested this few weeks back and today SG delivered. Thanks a lot.
Najam Sethi in one of his interviews mentioned that you both were in a third country when India announced itself as Nuclear Armed. If You could share few stories from that exact day and how you felt when you heard it for the first time.
... a Beautiful Presentation indeed Sir . As a student of Physics , i happen to know that preparing for a nuclear test and covertly takes a lot of time and effort . i have heard people say that they could have done the test earlier . Unfortunately, they are laymen and should not be blamed , rather they should be politely corrected . Preparing for a nuclear test is nothing like building a new fighter jet , it is far more complex and an extremely complicated matter , especially if one is trying to do one covertly.
Thank You Sir , for a lucid Presentation of the entire story which proved the mettle of not only our scientists but also the key Politicians from seemingly rival parties who stood together for the National Cause, a Remarkable example of continuation of National Policy across Governments. They chose to stand together for the National Cause. This is what my India is .
Satyameba Jayate .
PS : Sir , if it would be possible please take a lecture on the IPKF failure and events leading to it including the reasons for formation of the LTTE . Your Presentation would be of Great help for interested students and people like me to get a lucid overview of the series of Events that ultimately lead to the assassination of Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi . Thanking You in Advance .
oppenheimer dekhna
@@tarantinofan8947 : Thank You for the excellent suggestion Brother . i would , on my part urge you to read the book 'Brighter than a Thousand Suns' by Robert Jungk. This book was suggested to us as a casual read by our Teachers at Presidency College ( now University) Kolkata way back in the early 90's. It reads like a fast paced thriller, a thriller that documents facts . There are some discrepancies , but those are minor . For example, Robert Jungk claims that Warner Heisenberg , who the allies thought was leading the German Atomic Programme , did not sympathize with the dreadful Nazi Idealogy because he hated Hitler. It is true that Heisenberg , who was an advocate of Theoritical Physics hated Hitler. Hitler, an abomination of a Human being ,wanted to destroy all Theoritical Physics because he felt that it was Jewish Science , a claim that is absurd and bizarre. However Heisenberg did sympathize with the horrible Nazi ideology and did it even after the war .
These apart , the book is indeed a gratifying read . It tells us a story of team work , and of horrible censorship which left truly noble men like Oppenheimer for ever broken after the war . Einstein, who was not even a part of the team that was involved in the Manhattan Project and therefore not a witness to the test explosion at Almo Gordo Airbase ( recall the famous quote from the Bhagwat Gita as narrated by Oppenheimer who along with his fellow team members were witness to the blast : I am the destroyer of worlds ... ) and whose consent was used as an excuse for using the weapon on the Japanese was extremely disturbed and it affected him for the rest of his life because his name was associated with a crime against humanity.
Thanks again Brother for your kind suggestion ...
@@tarantinofan8947 : perhaps the hatred of the Nazis for anything Theoritical involving Science and Mathematics was because they crudely associated Abstract Mathematics and Theoritical Physics with the Jews , something that is not only bizarre but also apalling. The Nazis single handedly destroyed German Science and reduced it to an empty shell . The German loss contributed to the gain of America who sheltered people like Einstein, Gödel , Fermi , John von Neumann, Emily Noether to name a few ...
Thank you for the suggestion, Sarvajeet. It is indeed something to consider. I'm glad you liked this episode. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
@@ThePrintIndia: ... Thank You So Much for Your Kind Appreciation, Sir ...
That's out of the box from regular rasgullas you give to your guest. Excellent from @ThePrint .
Thanks Shekhar for this wonderful recap of the events leading finally to the nuclear tests! A glorious chapter in our recent history.
In India , we may fight brutally amongst ourselves, but when it come's to motherland, no one gives second thought about what's best and necessary for the country. I think, this has made all the difference.
Pokrahan 2 seems like a great example of what a country can do when its unified with a collective mission. Good lesson for partison politicians today, not just in India, but in the whole world.
Got goosebumps while listening this! Salute to all who were involved!!
I feel so proud listening to this. Looks like our politicians realize their responsibility at the highest level. Jai Hind! Jai Bharat!
There's a visible difference between narration of a cut the clutter episode & a national interest episode. While cut the clutter is more of a spontaneous news reading, National interest is written down and is read as is. This episode of CTC is like National interest.
Rocket boys has exponentially increased my interest in this story. Thanks for sharing SG!
We love you SG, Thanks for bringing this episode, should have been a 2 series episode, you cut it really short.
Kudos too all who made it possible, we are indeed proud of them.
Can you do a additional series of on which type of Nuclear Bombs we have vis a via Pakistan
Comparison Between N Bomb Of Pakistan vs India 🇮🇳
One of the rare instances of politicians of all hue deserve bouquets.🎉🎉
Kudos sir..following you since 2019
This episode should be shown in every schools and universities 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳
Shekharji good information. Great presentation 👏
Excellent Sir. Listened this multiple times . Goosebumps never came down . One of your best CTC
Thanks, Mr. SG for your insightful discourse.
We salute all our great leaders from Nehru to Modi who brick by brick have been building our nation India
We also salute all Scientists, Civil Servants, Diplomats, and Military Officials for their immeasurable contributions.
As far as Nation and its Security and integrity are concerned, we are ONE, no Congress, no BJP only INDIAN
Jai Hind
Vande Mataram
Great stuff SG. You are a master story teller, great to have a senior journalist like you with a repository of such knowledge
Kuchh baat to hai is mitti mein ki kitna bhi bura dost, ristedaar ya smaaj hi kar de apne saath. Is mitti ko daga koi nahi deta. Yahan to bas hindustani bachche paida hotein hain, kuchh acche to kuchhe gande.. Ek baar yeh bachche mitti chhor dein magar even the deadliest of gangsters feels emotional about serving the soil. I am always proud of India and my brothers and sisters.
Proud of my country. Jai Hind!
This is one of the best CTC episodes
If someone hits a stone 50 times to break it one can't say that it was just the 50th hit that broke the rock. Something people who keep attributing Pokhran 2 to Vajpayee will never understand. Thank You Sekhar Ji for this episode.
Good Point,
But Vajpayee also deserve the credit! As he was perhaps second last after Dr Singh who worked for country above party lines.
People also belive that India was nothing before 2014 :P (sometimes we should hear and smile at them)
Agree. Just like some think all credit should go to Gandhi and nehuru for Indias freedom
@@indian9632 excellent
But surely it took a Vajpayee (and a BJP that had the guts in those days to publicly declare in their manifesto) to actually conduct the tests.
21 thundering guns salute to leaders scientists army and personnel involved for this phenomenal contribution 🇮🇳
Dear Shekhar Ji, I was deeply intrigued and captivated by your account of India's journey to nuclear self-sufficiency. You are right, it is a saga that deserves its own book.
As citizens of this nation, we are all indebted to the brilliant scientists, visionary politicians, and dedicated administrators who made this achievement possible. Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi, A.B. Vajpayee, administrators like Chandra ji, Mishra ji and many others played crucial roles in this journey.
I am grateful to you for sharing this story with us. It is a reminder of the strength and resilience of our nation, and the power of human ingenuity.
I doubt today there is anyone left in Congress that can show this level of integrity and maturity while being in power.
There are, it's not always what bjp says about Congress
simply mesmerizing. What a treat!
The more SG explained the prouder i am, thanks to so many citizens for being so loyal.
Sg simply “Wow” to these guys dedication hatsoff. Good that you brought out this CTC
Very mature politicians and all the working people.. this should be the zeal of finding something
A great story indeed by the master storyteller. Thanks to Shekhar for remembering the forgotten heroes of May 11, 1998, who made India proud.
Thank you for the kind words. There are some days and incidents that one never forgets. This was one of them. I'm glad you enjoyed this episiode...best wishes, Shekhar
Unusual picture of Sonia similing with Chandrshekhar ji. 14.39
Fascinating story. I felt good about our political leadership, the bipartisanship political leadership. Thank you for narrating this story.
Incredible story ❤️
So inspiring... Respect 🙏🏼🙏🏼
One of the best CTCs.
That is a great story to tell.
Thanks SG
Great to be a Indian Jai Hind
Arunachalam, iyengar, chidambaram, kalam, santhanam, balachandran- all Tamils
Mostly tamil brahmins
Bugger was condemning this and now praising. What a bloody chameleon.
Great content!
Two mics?
14:26 that is why I love your show sir
Fascinating stuff. Thank you.
One of the best CTC episode
It would have been even better if it would have been longer.
Keeping such a secret for such a long time. Great job.
All of this secrecy in just one sentence. “ desh phehle “ baki sab badme. “Desh rehna chahiye “
Thank you, Mr Gupta, for this fascinating and insightful episode. I wish it went on for another hour
Always love SG’s storytelling, bang on ❤😊
Remarkable. All this has been beautifully depicted in the movie Parmanu, starring John Abraham and others. It's a beautiful film, must watch!! As for the mole, according to the movie it was just negligence on the part of the team and not some one person giving out the secrets.
And yes, Shekhar himself should write the book that he mentioned in the beginning.
Fascinating 😎 #ThePrint #ShekharGupta
One of the best episodes 👍
Not enough like buttons... a very short video for such an elaborate story. Need to have more of it.
Its clear as water people still live for this great country so that we can roam around freely keeping our heads held high this spirit which lives in the heart of people is why we will go further and become a super power not because we were destined to or because we were a great power in the past but because we owe so much to these people who live on their meagre salaries with no recognition just soldier on to make this country what our forefathers envisioned this country to be saare jahan se achha hindustan hamara.
this is awesome .. Thanks Sir !! really nice episode !!
Wow! It was expected from the scientists but those temporary PMs supporting the largest objective is credit worthy. Hats off to you SG for yet another gripping tale of our country.
Remarkable !!
Can you please share the link of the walk the talk with Dr Kakodkar
Jai hind !!!
Amazing National Interest true nationalists Thankyou all with bowed head .
Shaker ji you are amazing to choose this story on the most appropriate day. Thank you .
Good one Shekhar! Only if politicians today could place the nation first, once again like earlier times!
Yet again one more absorbing episode of CTC 👍
Truly inspiring! 🇮🇳
Super story. Filled with exclusive nuggets and anecdotes.
Could you please do an episode analyzing the value of doing the tests in light of the fact that 1. Pakistan did their tests right away and 2. It appears to not have stopped hot wars from occurring.
Thankyou
Fascinating story
Well I had goosebumps
Thanks for sharing 👍
I congratulate you on doing this 25th anniversary of this landmark event. We were at school and all remember the short but electrifying announcement from Vajpayee
Hi Shekhar, Could you share the link of that walk the talk?
Here are the links:
www.ndtv.com/video/shows/walk-the-talk/walk-the-talk-with-anil-kakodkar-part-1-368412
www.ndtv.com/video/shows/walk-the-talk/walk-the-talk-with-anil-kakodkar-part-2-369217
Thank you for writing to us, Disha
Regards, ThePrint Team
The movie Pokhran even though exaggerated depicts your theory. Do watch it once! brilliant pick of a CTC invoking bipartisan nationalism amidst the current cacophony.
We love story telling
Sir,
Did this nuclear test led to shifting of potential FDI away from India towards China, esp electronic and telecom segment related one.
I am so glad that SG made a CTC on the nuclear arms test
Great Story
A story well told. Thanks.
Wonderful storytelling Shekhar, it's like I'm watching a movie.
Thank you for a great episode, sir.
I had hoped that today's episode would be SC focused as we got two important rulings - one regarding the change of government in Maharashtra and one regarding the CM's powers in Delhi. At first glance, it looks like both the rulings went against the BJP's interests. However, it is hard to find unbiased sources regarding these judgements, hence my hopes of a CTC episode on these.
Moreover, including the fascinating daily live-telecasted hearings that have been happening on the legalisation of homosexual marriages in the SC, there was more than enough material for an episode, if not more.
But, this episode was fascinating enough. Kudos to you and your team.
Regards,
If only we had more visionaries and sensible people at the higher levels, in all fields of science, sports, medicine. We could be a superpower in all areas.
Good reading (hearing) James Hardele Chase. Salute to our matured politician of those years. Good night
👍 coverage! Felt 🥹, when a general debate outside IAEA 2003, asking me where Is Buddha 😊 person ? 🙏to Atalji vision…
जय हिंद दोस्तम ! 🦚🐯🇮🇳
Now I understood what NaMo meant when he said that All PMs have contributed to the current India in his first ever speech at the Loksabha in 2014. It’s fascinating
the prob. is that he believes their 'contribs' are nothing compared to his 'boons' to the country!
Gupta ji, either you write a book on this or recommend some.
Me.Gupta has stressed only administrative issues and how were they overcome, but what about technical/ scientific side.
How Plutonium was got hold of in spite of heavy international sanctions, how weapon was fabricated and how it was transported through escaping satellite’s range. How the entire operation was kept secret even from Atomic Energy Sceintific community. We in BREC, did not know of any development till we read next day.
It seems that for likes of Mr Gupta, movements of files is the only thing that matters
Hi Sekhar, a small correction; it is Muthuswamy Balakrishnan of TBRL Chandigarh (and not Muthuswamy Balachandran).
Salute to Patriots.
6/7 Nuclear Scientists who spearheaded this effort were from TN👏
Colour or Regional Stufff Can't Divide These Huge Achievement
why stop at state level? you can go ahead and classify them at district level as well.
Crazy to think about it! Just imagine how limiting it would have been for them to work under duress and absolute secrecy!!
Oh! I thought scientists were from India.
Sir bilkul poetic ho jate hai kabhi kabhi
So less about Atalji n his team.. while so much on others.. interesting
It was good move
Its crazy how much south Indians have contributed to India's growth and progress.
Oh I thought It was Indians who were working on it but thanks for letting me know it was south Indians
@@offred6013 Hey you're welcome!
@@ViksterG Ok retard.