Vince Neil of Motley Crüe | His Deadly Car Crash and the Death of Razzle

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    Vincent Neil Wharton (born February 8, 1961), best known by the stage name Vince Neil, is an American musician. He is the lead vocalist and occasional rhythm guitarist of heavy metal band Mötley Crüe, which he fronted from their 1981 formation until his departure in 1992. Neil reunited with the band in 1996 and continued with them until the band's 2015 retirement, and again from the band's 2018 reunion onwards. Outside of Mötley Crüe, Neil has also released three studio albums as a solo artist - the most recent of which, Tattoos & Tequila, was released in 2010.
    Mötley Crüe is an American heavy metal band formed in Los Angeles in 1981. The group was founded by bassist Nikki Sixx, drummer Tommy Lee, lead guitarist Mick Mars and lead singer Vince Neil. Mötley Crüe has sold over 100 million albums worldwide. They have also achieved seven platinum or multi-platinum certifications, nine Top 10 albums on the Billboard 200 chart (including 1989's Dr. Feelgood, which is Mötley Crüe's only album to reach number one), twenty-two Top 40 mainstream rock hits, and six Top 20 pop singles. The band experienced several short-term lineup changes in the 1990s and 2000s; these included the introduction of vocalist John Corabi (who was Neil's replacement from 1992 to 1996) and drummers Randy Castillo and Samantha Maloney, both of whom filled in for Lee following his departure from Mötley Crüe in 1999; he returned to the band in 2004. More recently in 2022 guitarist Mick Mars announced his retirement from touring with the band, with former Rob Zombie guitarist John 5 taking his place on live duties.
    In late 1984, Finnish hard rock band Hanoi Rocks was on their second American tour and their first to reach California. The two gigs meant to be held in Los Angeles sold out in only twenty minutes. On the day they arrived in Los Angeles, December 8, Hanoi Rocks drummer Nicholas "Razzle" Dingley and the other members of the band (with the exception of singer Michael Monroe, who was recovering from a fractured ankle) visited Neil's home and spent the day in Redondo Beach. After partying for hours, Neil and Razzle decided to visit to a local liquor store in Neil's De Tomaso Pantera. Neil, who was drunk, lost control of the car and hit an oncoming vehicle. The two occupants of the other car were seriously injured and suffered brain damage, and Dingley was killed. Neil was charged with vehicular manslaughter and driving under the influence of alcohol in connection with the crash. His blood alcohol content was 0.17, well above the California legal limit at that time of 0.10. In September 1985, Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Edward Hinz Jr. sentenced Neil to 30 days in jail and five years' probation. Neil was ordered to pay $2.6 million in restitution to the victims of the crash and undergo 200 hours of community service. Neil was paroled after serving 15 days in jail for good behavior; Mötley Crüe dedicated their third studio album, Theatre of Pain, to Razzle.
    Nicholas Charles Dingley (2 December 1960 - 8 December 1984), better known by his stage name Razzle, was the English drummer of Finnish glam rock band Hanoi Rocks from 1982 until his death.
    He was buried at Holy Cross Church in Binstead, on the Isle of Wight in 1984.
    Neil dedicated Theatre of Pain, Mötley Crüe's third studio album, to Razzle. In 2015 Neil admitted to Ultimate Classic Rock that he wrote a check for $2.5 million to the courts, so he only ever served 19 days of a 30-day sentence for the reckless death
    Neil's account of this event, while contradictory to witnesses accounts, is documented in Mötley Crüe's 2001 autobiography The Dirt: Confessions of the World's Most Notorious Rock Band. Max Milner portrayed Razzle in the 2019 film adaptation.

ความคิดเห็น • 682

  • @MissPiggy.
    @MissPiggy. ปีที่แล้ว +134

    You said it Scott, Vince is going strong, yet the victims are still dealing with the pain. I truly wish DUI laws gets more stern each year. Thanks Scott🥰

    • @aprilgosa5779
      @aprilgosa5779 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Vince is not going strong he drinks himself to oblivion to forget all the pain of Razzle and Skylar

    • @Alien300Blackout
      @Alien300Blackout ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aprilgosa5779 You actually believe that🤦🏼‍♂️🤣🤣🤣😊

    • @andrewheydt2179
      @andrewheydt2179 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      vince neil is an asshole we need to do so much more and better of a job of stopping very very large numbers of drunk people from ever getting behind the wheel because most people that know or see drunk people really arent doing anything at all to stop drunk people they know or see from driving this needs to be done so much more often and better which really should have been done over 2 decades ago what the hell

    • @lyricberlin
      @lyricberlin ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Alien300Blackout yeah, Skylar killed Neil's soul. Especially because so many people said Skylar's death was his karma for Razzle. People tried to tell Neil God doesn't give a child kidney cancer to get back at the dad but people still say it.

    • @karllager2214
      @karllager2214 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's trash.

  • @jameshutchinson568
    @jameshutchinson568 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Nikki Sixx said at the end that this tragedy made the band tighter, but it didn't. This actually caused a permanent rift in Motley Crue that has never healed.

  • @motley123rock
    @motley123rock ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I remember when this happened. Surprised something like this didn’t happen earlier as the band was totally out of control with drink and drugs. Watched another TH-camr pay respect to Razzle who is buried on the Isle Of Wight . #RIPRazzle

    • @laurastrobel718
      @laurastrobel718 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I remember when this happened too. The rock press took it pretty seriously, I remember reading about it in Rolling Stone

    • @DirtyMikeTM
      @DirtyMikeTM ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Isle of man? Don't you mean Isle of Wight

    • @motley123rock
      @motley123rock ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Apologies indeed it is. Edited above. 👍

    • @motley123rock
      @motley123rock ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/LKnevjIKCx4/w-d-xo.html

  • @DiogenesUlyanov
    @DiogenesUlyanov ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I was the passenger in a horrific drunk driving incident a few years back. Really changed my perspective on life and made me never want to get into a car with a drunk driver ever again. Im lucky to be here

    • @Regina0964
      @Regina0964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you're still here also 🤗 it's scary, been there when another intoxicated friend was driving us all back he from a concert, I sat in the middle seat trying to help them drive, they kept saying I'm not drunk, in the back of my mind I knew differently and had to help because there where others in the vehicle drunk, so one by one they all got home safe, now it's just me over to the passenger seat, as they got me home safe I had asked if they wanted to crash at my place until later that day or eat something and relax until you sober up, they said no I'm fine, well it wasn't fine, they where hit Head on by another drunk driver on their way home, that driver wasn't killed but the person driving us all home did, the drunk driver that killed him got away with no time, because they thought because my guy was drunk and hey caused it and not the other dude since his blood content wasn't as high as for the other dude's.... Just sad, buzz driving to me is the same as drunk driving.... R.I.P to all that have been killed by a drunk driver... 🙏

    • @aprilgosa5779
      @aprilgosa5779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      were you both drunk because these 2 were everyone acts as if Vince forced him it was a tragedy that Vince still suffers from mentally and emotionally

    • @DiogenesUlyanov
      @DiogenesUlyanov ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aprilgosa5779 does it matter if we were both drunk? I think what matters here is the fact that I’m still alive today, to tell the story about it.

    • @janeanmarshall5082
      @janeanmarshall5082 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DiogenesUlyanov unfortunately both of you are correct. Its great & amazing that you are still here! But both made an active choice to get in the vehicle. (IF, both of you were intoxicated) Either way, I hope I don't offend, its not my intention! This is just my opinion on these types of crashes.

    • @virginiaviola5097
      @virginiaviola5097 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My Nan got cleaned up by a drunk driver who crossed the median strip and hit her head on. It was in ‘64, and although she was lucky to survive she lived with the physical consequences of that accident for the rest of her life. I was 18 months old when it happened and 33 when she died..30 years of unnecessary suffering for one bloke’s bad choices. It frustrates me that people are still dying every day because of drunk drivers.

  • @footloosewill5569
    @footloosewill5569 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Finally someone does this story justice. Good job Scott

  • @Rutabaga64
    @Rutabaga64 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    We lived in Redondo Beach at the time this happened. I’ll never forget how angry the community was over the punishment being the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. It just wasn’t right.

    • @Peaceandlove20240
      @Peaceandlove20240 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought I heard her wrong. WTH

    • @roxannemoser
      @roxannemoser ปีที่แล้ว +30

      The fine Vince paid was for the victims in the other car. Razzle's family didn't receive one red cent. I saw an interview of Vince saying himself he got off easy and felt guilty about it. He also said he thought Skylar's death was his karma.
      Out of Motley Crüe, Mick is the most stand up guy. I believe Vince has a bigger heart now and still suffers the guilt of killing Razzle. I like Vince a whole lot better than Tommy. I can barely stomach Nikki at all.

    • @finishin.my.coffee8780
      @finishin.my.coffee8780 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@roxannemoser I like their music but I always try to separate the art from the artist. Now that John 5 is stepping in for Mick, I really feel for him. He's a nice, down to Earth guy whose only vices seem to be collecting Kiss memorabilia and vintage Fender Telecasters. I just hope he's got his guard up.

    • @paulmazzola398
      @paulmazzola398 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@roxannemoser Mick Mars is the most modest person in the group and the brains behind everything. There's a lot of folks who would disagree with me and say Nikki Sixx. I met Vince Neil one year at Las Vegas Motor Speedway at the drag strip. He was a guest of one the race teams. He was cool with fans. I did get a autograph from on a shirt. The new guy John 5 has very huge shoes too fill in the band. There's only Mick Mars one of the greatest guitarist ever.

    • @aprilgosa5779
      @aprilgosa5779 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roxannemoser He is wrong Skylar was not Karma for what happened to Razzle 1 God would not do that 2 Nobody deserves to watch his child die

  • @marklee2141
    @marklee2141 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I've never been to cali you're out there with the stars and that's where you should be ...your channel is a huge hit cause you are the best at what you do and I can't wait to see what's coming next like everyone else ..you're the new homerun king cause you cover the best subjects and do it with style humor and the research that is incredible

    • @SCOTTONTAPE
      @SCOTTONTAPE  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you so much Mark!

    • @Arlene5Star
      @Arlene5Star ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great video thank you

    • @midsouth2strokes185
      @midsouth2strokes185 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Stars? U mean the pedos? I've never been there either and have 0 desire to.
      Oh yea, good video.

  • @bernadettefirth
    @bernadettefirth ปีที่แล้ว +8

    R.I.P Raz and condolences to your family and friends 🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖🇬🇧

  • @terrigwyn9963
    @terrigwyn9963 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    We used to call onlookers who slowed down traffic: “rubber neckers.” Another great video Scott! Thank you! ❤

  • @UnusualThings1
    @UnusualThings1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video as always Scott. I recently visited Razzles grave. He’s buried on the Isle of Wight off the South coast of England. It’s great too see where it all happened 🙏

    • @karenmallinson1962
      @karenmallinson1962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just commented that I watched your video on Razzle without realising you commented too. Great work Paul.

  • @JayIgnition
    @JayIgnition ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Fell in love with this band a couple of years back. Not sure why I had never really given the Crue a chance but they have some amazing songs. Didn't find out about this incident until I watched The Dirt which is an awesome movie.
    Baffles me how he didn't serve much time.
    Great video as always, Scott. Keep doing what you do best brother. Love from England.

    • @roxannemoser
      @roxannemoser ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Doc McGhee got Vince out of trouble with that.

    • @dmzabo3914
      @dmzabo3914 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Big money lawyers. You know the kind Us normies can’t possibly afford. Think O.J. Simpson. lol

    • @lyricberlin
      @lyricberlin ปีที่แล้ว

      not many drunk drivers do

    • @BigtimeJuicer
      @BigtimeJuicer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @jayIgnition I hate being someone who says this... But if you liked the movie Dirt.. You HAVE TO read the book! I liked em both. But it isn't even close!! The movie misses 90% of the story.

    • @mauryvictoria1801
      @mauryvictoria1801 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Read the book goes into more detail about what was going on at the time with the band I too discovered motley Crue 3 years ago I was on heroin I was 23 in a bad spot in my life I've now been almost a year clean but Nikki's story resonates with me so much... Another person whose music I discovered while being lost in the black despair pit that is heroin addiction, is Prince.! He rocks too just like motley rox.. God bless guys

  • @gillnelson9037
    @gillnelson9037 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What a tragic story it's like my friends daughter who was 20. 2 years ago she was back seat passenger in a soft top with top down. The driver was fine the other passenger was seriously injured but recovered while keegan my friends beautiful daughter was killed instantly almost cut in half. The driver has only just gone to trial as he pleaded not guilty. It went to court last month he then pleaded guilty so waiting for sentencing in a few weeks. Now the driver was still aloud to drive no jail time no fine still waiting for justice. Something should be done to the drivers who cause death or serious injury shouldn't be allowed to just walk and carry on with their lives having taken other life. Anyway I shall stop there. Thanks Scott for sharing love from West Yorkshire UK ❤️ 🇬🇧

  • @caroleroseburgh1344
    @caroleroseburgh1344 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good Evening Scott 🙋🏽. Awesome Video ‼️ Thanks for sharing this with me.😃👍🏽

  • @malfuncsean
    @malfuncsean ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great job and props to you for giving 85 Grave credit too. It's nice when people give credit to others that do hard work and you just don't take the info and just make it your own. Great job.

  • @suz871
    @suz871 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I remember when this tragedy happened. I got most of my music news from Circus magazine or MTV. I wasn’t aware the accident occurred so close to where the bands were partying. Also never knew about the occupants in the VW and how badly they were injured. Vince Neil did not receive just punishment for all of the devastation he caused, imo. Such an awful thing to have happened that could have obviously been avoided. RIP Razzle

  • @rappeezy
    @rappeezy ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The unintentional asmr of your videos get me every time, regardless of subject matter. Such a soothing voice.

    • @ryangettig274
      @ryangettig274 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah,that's what got me on the hook with Scotty-with his Jeff Buckley piece...

  • @chrishawkins32014
    @chrishawkins32014 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perfect timing… thank u! And a good way to celebrate my bday today! Love from SoCal.

  • @Baconbreath0652
    @Baconbreath0652 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I was never a big fan of motley crue but the movie the dirt was really good. Such a tragic story. Vince Neil got a slap on the wrist. RIP Razzle

    • @ryant3600
      @ryant3600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Times and laws were different. The guy the drunk driver that killed Criss Oliva (guitarist of Savatage) served 18 months of a 5 year sentence, no big pay out and he had 7 prior DUI's.. That to me is way more of a slap on the wrist. and he wasn't famous.

  • @101kmontgomery
    @101kmontgomery ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Mornings aren't great for me." Awesome.

  • @catherineferguson7388
    @catherineferguson7388 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved Motley crew whilst growing up, RIP Raz, never forgotten 💐💐, thank you Scott ✌️✌️🤟🏼

  • @talestoldinthedark
    @talestoldinthedark ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Scott you are kicking butt bringing us amazing content thank you

  • @heathermanning5368
    @heathermanning5368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much for Sharing!!!❤

  • @kotysuefawcett6538
    @kotysuefawcett6538 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Awesome video,as always, Scott! 👍 Yeah, Vince got a slap on the wrist. RIP Razzle. 🤗✌️

  • @bernadettesepulveda1579
    @bernadettesepulveda1579 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Everytime I see an accident or I see an ambulance pass me I pray that whoever is in ambulance or in a crash I always pray that everyone is kk or when I pass the cemetery I always say rip to all who lost their live rip that's just out of respect thxz for a great video scott

  • @TwistedSMF
    @TwistedSMF ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I def agree. Had this happened back then with today's tech, Vince either would had gotten cancelled or would never live it down. He even admitted in the VH1 documentary he bought his way out of jail.

  • @oneballwizard406
    @oneballwizard406 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My dad used to party with the band a lot and I remember him telling me about this when I was a kid. Too bad I never got more stories after I grew up he passed away

  • @xElucidatee
    @xElucidatee ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s my brother’s birthday todays and this was a video he wanted u to cover thanks Scott have a nice rest of your day

  • @chadmears136
    @chadmears136 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember this incident when I was a kid in 84. Great video Scott. Love me Some Motley Crue still.

  • @finishin.my.coffee8780
    @finishin.my.coffee8780 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I remember my cousin telling me about this in the summer of '85. I was a little 7 year old kid who loved Motley Crue and I refused to believe him. To me, at the time, these guys were stars who could do no wrong. Now, looking back, it's amazing when I think about the fact that it was Tommy who warned Vince not to get behind the wheel. When Tommy Lee is the voice of reason, the situation is pretty much FUBAR.

    • @Stewieboy1995
      @Stewieboy1995 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tommy seems more normal like sure he’s done stupid stuff but he’s never hurt anyone or killed anyone like Vince. At least Tommy handles his booze and doesn’t do stupid things like what Vince did. Tommy’s a little nuts but he’s never killed or harmed anyone, he’s ok in my book. At least he acts responsibly when he drinks. Common sense Vince doesn’t have whatsoever

    • @justincase7937
      @justincase7937 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Stewieboy1995 A little kid drowned in his pool at a birthday party at his house, does that count?

    • @CATNAPREAL1188
      @CATNAPREAL1188 ปีที่แล้ว

      WOW, I haven't heard FUBAR since the 70's. You must be like me, older than dirt 🤣🤣🤣. You Take Care and Stay Safe ✌️

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Stewieboy1995Tommy crashed his motorcycle and crushed his passenger hand in the process. He was fucked up. Didn't serve a day. Nikki crashed his car around the time of Vince's accident. Luckily no one was in his car.

    • @DravenCruz
      @DravenCruz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Stewieboy1995Tommy Lee definitely doesn’t act responsibly when he drinks 💀

  • @adventuresofmoonman
    @adventuresofmoonman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hanoi rocks has been my favorite band since I was in the 6th grade. Thanks for sharing

  • @TheFairway8
    @TheFairway8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I knew Razzle well right from his days in The Fuck Pigs, Demon Preacher and The Dark. I remember when he was offered the gig with Hanoi Rocks. He was best mates with my mate Adam. We used to hang out quite a bit especially in The Marquee Club and Gossips in Soho. Great times especially for a young punk rocker who was fresh outta high school hanging out with members of Hanoi Rocks.
    One surreal moment I always fondly remember was being at my dads playing my guitar when my mate Adam, Razzle and Nasty Suicide turned up, we were probably going to The Marquee or 100 Club or similar. I always remember Nasty raving about the tone I was getting from my Leo valve practice amp. I lost touch with my mate and Razzle at the time of his death but I remember my mate being devastated it was extremely sad news Razzle really was a very placid unassuming lovely bloke.

    • @PeaceLoveAndRocknroll
      @PeaceLoveAndRocknroll ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Nick was a placid, unassuming, lovely bloke - sweet and kind, talkative and funny.

    • @rogersimpson9725
      @rogersimpson9725 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wonder if Vince learned anything. Does he still drink? Does he still drink and drive?

  • @michellebeaty2768
    @michellebeaty2768 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANKK U SCOTT ON TAPE I REALLY ENJOY YOUR SITE!!

  • @ksbeditor
    @ksbeditor ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for such an informative video about an event that I wasn't aware of.... you do extraordinary work and I appreciate your sense of integrity.

  • @Autumn_Forest_
    @Autumn_Forest_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yet another interesting story which I’m just learning about from you, Scott. I was 9 or 10 when this happened. You always do such a great job with your videos, and I always learn something new. Thank you!

  • @michaellawlor5625
    @michaellawlor5625 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely view that beach with the low clouds, beautiful!!

  • @benlaw4647
    @benlaw4647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Scott! Thanks for covering this my friend...✌👍

  • @Pauls-World
    @Pauls-World ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Scott Happy Holidays

  • @sonplusone7059
    @sonplusone7059 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Thanks Scott.

  • @marcusjknight
    @marcusjknight ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great cinematography. And historical narration.

  • @kincaide67
    @kincaide67 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome job again, Scott. I was never that into Motley Crue so I guess I never digested this story when it originally broke back in the day. But I love your take on it, and I can't agree with you more. I've been in a few car accidents - and the way you describe the "explosion" and crunch, etc - it immediately took me back there. Fortunately for me and those involved - it was mostly "minor" accidents, but serious all the same. Anyway - thanx for the story and interesting facts. Take care, my friend.

    • @Stewieboy1995
      @Stewieboy1995 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like motley Crüe but not so much these past years since I’ve grown up. I realize they’re egotistical jerks and just horrible people. They also can’t close their mouths especially Nikki. I thought they were cool as a kid but now I’m 27 and I just realize they’re not good people, better rockstars to appreciate and admire. These motley boys are drunks, druggies and womanizers like don’t have to be a pig with women. No respect for people these clowns. Lost respect for them years ago when I realized how stupid they are, especially Vince and the crash.

  • @debroy3262
    @debroy3262 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video. Thanks Scott for covering this❤

  • @lesleylester982
    @lesleylester982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just watched this for the first time. I’m a huge Hanoi Rocks fan so I’ve avoided watching any videos about the crash since it will only make me angry. You did a wonderful job sticking to the facts, not dramatizing it. You were also very respectful of Razzle and the other two people horribly injured in the accident. I thank you for that.
    Hanoi was a magical, once in a lifetime band. It’s tragic how things ended for Razzle and for the band but they left behind some of the most amazing music I’ve ever heard.

  • @hanneblouns8560
    @hanneblouns8560 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a sad story 😢❤️ poor man 😔🌹🌟🌹R.I.P 🙏🕊️❤️ Thank you again Scott for always great videos 🤗😊👌❤️ You are absolutely the best 💪😊💞

  • @michellebeaty2768
    @michellebeaty2768 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your site. I appreciate your videos and love your input !!

    • @michellebeaty2768
      @michellebeaty2768 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously this is terrible situation . You reporting it tho brings the situation to light. God bless RAZZ !!

  • @hellenback7588
    @hellenback7588 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Vince was out of jail before one of the people in the volkswagon was out of a coma

  • @jordy7540
    @jordy7540 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    New subscriber, love your vids man! Real life, real stuff

  • @cd7071
    @cd7071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man, thanks for posting

  • @lesleyd2448
    @lesleyd2448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Scott! I don’t even remember all of this. Sad for everyone involved 😢🙏. Have a beautiful weekend everyone 🙏❤

    • @lesleyd2448
      @lesleyd2448 ปีที่แล้ว

      15 days?? What a joke. 😮

  • @laurastrobel718
    @laurastrobel718 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your comments aren't harsh at all Scott. Anyone else would have done some serious time for such an accident, if you can call it that. Money talks and people walk. Vince issued a court room apology to one of the victims, besides the payout that was it. Thanks for showing this location. I have Chynnas' autobiography, I'll have to check out your video about her. RIP Razzle ❤️💐🕊️🌈

    • @robertmckay2833
      @robertmckay2833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Laura I agree with you if you have money and your famous you get away with it Robert from Australia

    • @laurastrobel718
      @laurastrobel718 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@robertmckay2833 A lot of times it's true. As Scott pointed out, Motley Crue was a the top of their game at this time and it would have been a blow to them and their organization if their lead singer got locked up. Millions of dollars would have been lost. It's disgusting that money prevailed over justice in this case, but in a subtle way Divine Justice prevailed.🌄

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@laurastrobel718While I agree money helps, it's not like people normally get a huge sentence for vehicular manslaughter. At the end of the day it was an accident, a mistake. Obviously an avoidable one and horribly tragic.

    • @laurastrobel718
      @laurastrobel718 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrOctober44 So tragic 😕 Appreciate your input.💫

  • @Lilaa86
    @Lilaa86 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Paul of Unusual things vlog have done after my request , a great video about his grave. I appreciate and he was very kind!
    Thanks to him and to you that remember also Razzle .. not very often is done, a lots of musicians or music appassionate don’t know about this tragic story.
    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 great Scott
    Vince Neal after this , lost his daughter .. karma? I don’t know, but in think that this thing of razzle rest for him for all his life.

  • @Shelly-in-Tampa
    @Shelly-in-Tampa ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for taking us there Scott!

  • @janetchildress7573
    @janetchildress7573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video. It was very interesting.

  • @ellesee7079
    @ellesee7079 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    15 days. Travesty! RIP Razzle, and blessings to the 2 people in the other car.

  • @cathymcglasson6947
    @cathymcglasson6947 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Such a tragic shame RIP Razzle.

  • @shrimpercj
    @shrimpercj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You Tube channel 'Unusual Things' has the British story & visits Razzles final resting place, really good accompaniment to this video! AWESOME JOB SCOTT

  • @nitromyke
    @nitromyke ปีที่แล้ว

    9:31 85 Grave filmed this 3 years ago, and that old red Bronco on the right was on their vid in front of the store! Thanks for the upload Scott !

  • @michaelgallegos8811
    @michaelgallegos8811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Scott thanks for this, I only knew what was on the Dirt ,and sketchy stuff back when it happened back when! iam 61 my mind not so clear anymore lol 😆

  • @KingVlach
    @KingVlach ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your stuff . I laughed so hard when you side tracked at some high pitch noise and you were like whats going on up there and then went back to this amazing story. Much love and peace my friend. Keep rocking 🤟🤟🤟 my brother

    • @SCOTTONTAPE
      @SCOTTONTAPE  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha thank you Justin!!

  • @roxannemoser
    @roxannemoser ปีที่แล้ว +23

    RIP Nicholas "Razzle" Dingley. I was a HUGE Hanoi Rocks fan. I discovered them through GNR. Izzy made his stage image after Andy McCoy.
    Edit: not one dime of the restitution went to Razzle's family. I saw an interview where Vince says he still feels guilty. Sharise was pregnant with Skylar when this happened, and Vince said he believes Skylar's death was his fault too. He said it was his karma for getting off so easy. He also said that he didn't ask Doc McGhee to fight so hard for that easy time, but he didn't reject it when it was handed down. He had to stay sober during tours as Tommy and Nikki were shooting heroin and ridiculing Vince for having to stay clean. He eventually couldn't handle it and started drinking again, but he never did heroin.
    Andy McCoy gave Nikki the shot that made him overdose. Nikki wasn't hit with a baseball bat, nor thrown in a dumpster. Andy did CPR until the ambulance arrived. Andy left when Nikki showed back up and told him he was stupid.
    Here's Andy's story:
    th-cam.com/video/7rkfWUhuqXw/w-d-xo.html

    • @aprilgosa5779
      @aprilgosa5779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andy Mccoy hates Vince n Nikki and Nikki Overdosed twicce in a 24 hour period

    • @roxannemoser
      @roxannemoser ปีที่แล้ว

      He absolutely did. Still wasn't Andy's fault as Nikki states.

  • @treypayne43
    @treypayne43 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WOW this is great!!! I’ve met Vince twice and a huge Crue fan🤘I remember this like yesterday I was 12yrs old when this happened and had just bought Theater Of Pain Motley Crue was getting huge then and this happened and I was so young then I didn’t exactly realize the magnitude of it until years later so tragic 😢 great one Scott 👍thanks brother!!!

    • @Caffeine_Club
      @Caffeine_Club ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ToP came out the summer of '85. The crash happened half a year before its release, although the court case concluded two months after ToP hit the shelves. Vince's actions killed his friend, and left two other people with permanent brain damage for the rest of their lives. In his own words from his book, he said "you could tell they were very f-cked up." I can like the music, but fuck Vince Neil.

    • @roxannemoser
      @roxannemoser ปีที่แล้ว

      When you met Vince, was he nice, or an a$$hole. The one time I met him, he was very humble. Drunk, but humble. He was polite and said thank you to me when I told him Motley was dead wrong for firing him.

    • @roxannemoser
      @roxannemoser ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Caffeine_Club Vince himself said that he still feels guilty and he blames himself for his daughter's death. He said in an interview I saw that he thought Skylar's death was his karma.

    • @Caffeine_Club
      @Caffeine_Club ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roxannemoser that's ridiculous. He was responsible for Razzle's death, and permanently injuring the other two people that night, but his daughter's disease had zero to do with Vince Neil's actions. Let him feel bad for those he did harm, not for his innocent child who had nothing to do with his terrible decision.

    • @piscesempress1978
      @piscesempress1978 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roxannemoser Karma works that way sometimes, I don't hate Vince I actually like him and MC but I don't think it was a concidence that his daughter passed, and that sucks because the little girl didn't deserve it.

  • @tabithagamblin5117
    @tabithagamblin5117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Scott for doing this story I was 10 years old when this happened and I agree with you Vince Neal got off easy.

  • @leajohnson8441
    @leajohnson8441 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The weather looks awesome compared to here in Alberta, Canada it -35 in the day time.

  • @fapenetuailevaolole4125
    @fapenetuailevaolole4125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job Scott✌️💯💯👈👈watching you from New Zealand 🇳🇿 5m people🙏

  • @blackicex1622
    @blackicex1622 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Grew up listening to Motley Crue and never even knew about this.

  • @karenmallinson1962
    @karenmallinson1962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul from unusual things did a video recently on the final resting place of ‘Razzle’. Love watching both your channels so interesting what you do. Thank you

  • @theoldempressrv6193
    @theoldempressrv6193 ปีที่แล้ว

    So true.....always hope people are ok when you hear that noise....

  • @caveman3021
    @caveman3021 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been a Motley Crue fan since the'80s, but have always seen this as an injustice. Great material as always Scott! Keep it up!😃👍🇨🇦

  • @melaniewalter9239
    @melaniewalter9239 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🎸I Love both Band's music,but ya he got a slap on the wrist. TFS! Your awesome!💜😊💜

  • @bernadettesepulveda1579
    @bernadettesepulveda1579 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just signed up for 85 grave thank u for being respectful even tho u have ur opinions at the same time he lost his daughter so there's a lot he's going thru also

  • @roknrolbilly
    @roknrolbilly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HEY SCOTT!!! thank you for sharing this ... when i was 19years old in 1977 i was driving my 64 impala ss coming back from the drive in movies,and we were drunk!! well i hit a utility pole doing 95 and my best freind that was in my passenger seat died.. i just broke my leg.. i got neglagent homicide and 10 year probation and 90 days in jail and 500 hours of comunity service...and i still suffer everyday for the guilt and loss of my best freind virgil ray .😪

  • @aprillisa5950
    @aprillisa5950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never heard about this case. I was too young then. Very interesting video. Beautiful area.

  • @forcedmedia
    @forcedmedia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent stuff Scott.

  • @opticillusion792
    @opticillusion792 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ❤Scott, I hope you see this. THANK YOU for this one. My son was killed by a drugged driver fleeing from the police, 5 years ago. People need to be more aware of this stuff even when it isn’t Vince Neil. I will never be the same.❤️

  • @azrael666ethereal
    @azrael666ethereal ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I point the finger at Vince for the whole situation, but I also point the finger to everyone who was at that party who allowed Vince to get behind the wheel and drive. That walk is 30 mins, tops?? Never should have happened. Great video btw.

  • @choossuck7653
    @choossuck7653 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    RIP BIG Raz 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @stormcop55
    @stormcop55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well done, sir!! Awesome video and very respectful of the deceased.

  • @paulhasenauer4166
    @paulhasenauer4166 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So sad, Razzle was so young!! I grew up liking Crue’s music, but not gonna lie, 15 days in jail for manslaughter!?? I guess money talks. RIP Razzle, 🌹peace to the families. Your videos are awesome Scott keep em coming!!🙏🏽👍

  • @virginiaviola5097
    @virginiaviola5097 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is one of rock’s saddest stories, and Vince Neill got off lightly, but living with the knowledge that people died or had their lives forever changed for the worse because of you can’t be easy. You can only drink so much of that responsibility away. Razzle was a really special human being….can’t say the same for Vince.

  • @slkriderchick
    @slkriderchick ปีที่แล้ว

    Never knew that about The Delphi and I pass by it all the time when I visit Redondo Beach a few blocks away from me. Great info!!

  • @danbal4185
    @danbal4185 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The same month in '84 Rick Allen of Def Leppard lost his arm in an accident.

  • @melvynbev2827
    @melvynbev2827 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very sad 😔 another great show brother love from UK 🇬🇧 🙏 stay safe scott 🙏 👍

  • @JamesOnSite
    @JamesOnSite ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I got to know and meet the guys from crue after this incident. My first time hanging out Vince had just been released in jail and they were back on the theater of Pain Tour. He had shorter hair, seemed quite compared to the rest of the guys. I think loosing his daughter then this has taken a toll on him personally.

    • @aprilgosa5779
      @aprilgosa5779 ปีที่แล้ว

      @LCA-Auctions he lost his daughter in the 90s this happened when he was young in 1984 some say Skylar dying was his karma t hey do not know the Lord I serve Vince has never gotten over this or Skylar so yes he chose to drink he needs treatment not condemnation

    • @JamesOnSite
      @JamesOnSite ปีที่แล้ว

      @aprilgosa5779 I know this. Thank you for response.

    • @Stewieboy1995
      @Stewieboy1995 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he needs to realize it’s the two in that other car that have to live their lives having someone help them go to the bathroom and eat and bathe. He doesn’t give a damn and I don’t care his daughter died, he’s taken enough lives in one night. He just needs to realize you took two young peoples lives that now are vegetables basically you took their lives away by your stupidity. I don’t see him ever giving a Damn about those two young kids, it’s always his daughter who passed. I understand it’s sad but how many lives did he destroy in one night

  • @cindyhenning7832
    @cindyhenning7832 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a Horrible shame. Alcohol and driving will never go away. Like you said the one driving that strong because usually the one that doesn’t get hurt. It’s the innocent they end up losing their lives thank you Scott for this video

  • @68fmj51
    @68fmj51 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Scott. Hopefully it will serve as a warning for anyone that decides to drink and drive. I remember this incident well because I was sixteen at the time. Since it was pre-internet accurate information was hard to come by. The following Monday after the wreck, someone at school told me Tommy Lee had been killed. I knew better because I had seen an article in the newspaper a day or so after it happened.

  • @fishpondjoes2979
    @fishpondjoes2979 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video! Also i love your Liquor store ghetto "LOCS" sun glasses ! East LA staple! i have a few pairs!

  • @michaelharding707
    @michaelharding707 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Scott I did not know that happened back then. You should do a video on the heavens gate cult down in Rancho Santafe ca

  • @kelly-k-dub
    @kelly-k-dub ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I hope he is reminded of that horrific night each and everyday. SMDH

    • @Patricia-pq4jq
      @Patricia-pq4jq 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I'm sure he suffers, he doesn't need you to remind him.....smh

    • @Patricia-pq4jq
      @Patricia-pq4jq 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Stop talking shit about the Crue buddy

  • @MissPresley69
    @MissPresley69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I had no idea about any of this 😳 I used to love their songs. Still do,

  • @megm2824
    @megm2824 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last week, after I was done work and on my way home (this is at about 6:30 or 7 in the morning), I actually was stuck in traffic. I hate sitting in traffic but there was nothing I could do. The reason why traffic was so backed up is because there was a really bad accident on the other side of the interstate going north (I was going south). I didn't understand why those going south were going so slow, but you said it right, everyone slows down and looks. The thing that went through my mind when I got a glimpse of the accident was that I pray that everyone was okay. It was a very bad accident as well. Very well done video as usual and I love watching your videos!

  • @jackiehoward7300
    @jackiehoward7300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scott, I had a visceral reaction to this video. I remember the first car accident I heard to this day. It was about 40 years ago. Thankfully, no one was seriously hurt. I do remember that I heard the loudest out of place bang. I knew what it was and I ran around the corner to the accident scene and saw a car had hit a light pole. I called emergency services and the lady driving was okay. In 1993, a girl I went to high school with had came from college and brought her best friend back to my hometown for the Christmas holiday break. They decided to join her brother and his girlfriend for a night out. Unfortunately, the brothers girlfriend chose to drive drunk. They skidded on the icy roads and smashed into a tree. Both of the girls in the back seat were killed instantly. The brother in the front seat had life changing brain trauma. Our community is still struggling

  • @karentarr8930
    @karentarr8930 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Such a tragic incident, RIP Razzle. Yes should have been a wake up call but some never learn, I’m sure Vince carried this for the rest of his life 😿

    • @jakewhitmore6046
      @jakewhitmore6046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah imagine looking to your right seeing your friend dead and the others

    • @billbombshiggy9254
      @billbombshiggy9254 ปีที่แล้ว

      He absolutely did at least until his daughter died.

    • @tammybrown4901
      @tammybrown4901 ปีที่แล้ว

      He always will

    • @smileyone1612
      @smileyone1612 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah...he had more dui's since Razzle's death.

    • @paulfrank9047
      @paulfrank9047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He literally opened several bars. Also, he continued partying for quite sometime immediately following Razzle's death. If actions speak louder than words, he most certainly spit on the graves of his friend and the other victims. He is a pos.

  • @adearmom
    @adearmom ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Scott, you really gave razz justice. I was 18 when this happened and never knew about it. I loved Motley Crue but had I known Vince Neill killed a dude I probably would have not continued being a fan. Vince has been in so many brushes with the law that I'd take away his license too!
    Thank you for another great video. You are the best! ✌️

    • @aprilgosa5779
      @aprilgosa5779 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vince did not kill anyone it was a car wreck killing someone is shooting or stabbing intentionally they were both trashed and unfit to drive I am so sad for Razzle but even he would probably testify that nobody forced him to get in that car

    • @JamminClemmons
      @JamminClemmons ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aprilgosa5779 You da crazy American, yah. Dat one who think you is the queen, when is not true? Mama Mia, you big dumdum..
      Imma-gonna-slappa-you-dumdum-wit-the-wet-spaghetti. Mama Mia

    • @nicolaxoxo1
      @nicolaxoxo1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aprilgosa5779 wow, I truly hope you or your loved ones never find out the hard way that drunk driving is no accident. It’s a choice. Vince caused loss of life and severe permanent disability. And received next to no punishment. If he was TRULY remorseful he would have given more money to the victims. After lawyers fees, those poor folks in the VW (who weren’t drunk so HOW DO YOU BLAME THEM??!!) got very little money for permanent pain and disability. Razzle’s family reportedly got zero money. Meanwhile, Vince has made millions

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@nicolaxoxo1First off, none of us know what Vince might have done. The victims in the other car were paid over two million dollars. I think what his point was, It was an accident. This wasn't something malicious. The other commenter never blamed anyone.

  • @Jeanninecomeau
    @Jeanninecomeau ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great video. I don't even remember hearing about this car accident at the time and I have always been into rock and heavy metal. Like you said, you miss the news one or two nights and no Internet....

  • @Frank-the-Tank-13
    @Frank-the-Tank-13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful view for sure. Great vid!!

  • @motley123rock
    @motley123rock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks

    • @SCOTTONTAPE
      @SCOTTONTAPE  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for the tip it is so appreciated!!

  • @sashasmith9638
    @sashasmith9638 ปีที่แล้ว

    So crazy that u uploaded this I just watched the move the dirt and felt so bad for vince and razzle

  • @syreetaabney6968
    @syreetaabney6968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Scott and he must have not learn his lesson if he still is doing it and i enjoyed the video Scott.

  • @alainvincent1309
    @alainvincent1309 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Remember This
    Incident Very Well
    Great Video
    As Always Scott.
    R.I.P.
    Nicholas Charles “Razzle” Dingley

  • @-breakofdawn-
    @-breakofdawn- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hanoi Rocks reunited in 2002, released three new albums and one Best Of record, and finally disbanded again in 2009. They were extremely successful in Europe and had a huge following in Japan. They took their final bows in April of 2009 after playing 8 farewell shows on six consecutive days at Europe’s oldest rock club in Helsinki, Finland. Michael Monroe, their lead singer, continued as solo artist afterwards, less glam as before, but still a rock legend going strong to this day. Yet, in all those years, he made sure Razzle was never forgotten, dedicating songs to him during live performances, keeping his memory alive.

  • @leeannbarber2820
    @leeannbarber2820 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soon as i saw the video. I thought i saw this before and i was right. Thanks. Have a great weekend ♥️