Very enjoyable, I completely agree. I recently found a similarly clear, upbeat and informative channel called Sonata Secrets, by Swedish pianist Henrik Kilhamn. You may like it too!
I used to be able to play this in my sleep, but then I moved and couldn't take a piano or keyboard and lost about 75% of my skills. Learning it again is so frustrating especially since my fingers are so rusty and I know I can do it
You absolutely have the potential to do it. Music is fortunately/unfortunately ephemeral. Any time we musicians NAIL a performance, that's great, but it will fall off very quickly, in 2-3 days we will have plateau'd and in a couple weeks' time of not looking at it, we will regress back from that peak. In 2-3 months, our muscle memory loses all the toughest stuff, and it's back to drilling it once more to get the tough stuff back in shape.
@@gonzalochirinos8505 Same here. I am learning again after 40 years. Practice slowly with hands separately until you can player faster and accurately. Your muscle memory will take over and you will be able to play faster.
i think Chopin thought that his Fantaisie Impromptu was too similar of Moschelles's Impromptu, and thought it (loosely) would be considered plagiarism, so that's why it was never "publicly" published.
Thanks Paul. You are brilliant! Still getting my morning inspiration from your amazing videos! This is one of the biggest benefits of having broke my thumb 3 weeks ago. I travel to England, France, Poland & Thailand all with the click of a "TH-cam" button, with instructions from one of the world's most gifted instructors. Awesome!
Sir Barton, your methods and ways of presentation of music is incredible. You have a deep and profound sense of humanity. I see it in your work with elephants. I see it in your sculpture work, especially your Nina Simone. I only wish I could have had a teacher like you when I was young man. Although I know I will never be able to play this work, your teaching and demonstration gives me some joy in hearing such a master artist. I call you an artist because you are many times more than a musician. You are a humanitarian! Thank you Sir, for all that you do.
Daniel Moreira yeah. I can play some of Chopin’s other pieces but this one is a whole different animal. I’ve been trying to tame it for quite some time. Nothing is working lol.
@@kingjamesbiblebeliever8387 If you compare it with the Ballades, the Scherzos, the Sonatas, it's actually easier... But polyrhythmia is what makes it impossible for me. It's not even the tempo... Some of his Nocturnes and Études are also loaded with polyrhythmia. Just too difficult. Chopin is a true genius, a master of melody, harmony and rhythm!
Wow, tremendously well made video! Honestly one of the best I've seen on youtube... Thanks for taking the time to make it. You're a true gift to classical piano aficionados and amateurs around the globe. Keep up the good and motivational work!
Thank you for a very informative and helpful video. For years I've heard the story of Chopin's fear that this was too close to Moscheles' work but this is the first time I've actually heard the Moscheles piece. Nothing like actually hearing as opposed to reading about the similarities. Still, most will probably agree that Chopin added more than enough to claim it as an original work in its own right, his fears notwithstanding.
Thank you Paul. An intricate analysis and thought provoking dissection of Chopin's motives. I learnt this piece 11 years ago. It's my favourite and now I can appreciate it on a whole new level.
Please, just please don't try to make the triplets and sixteens 'eventually' fit inbetween the bars. Learn the 4:3 Polyrythm exactly and precised, as your speed goes up automatically.
I have another technique that is actually showcased in Chopin's Etude Op. 25 No. 1 starting at measure 17. The 3rd note in the 4-note 16th note groups is accented for more than just adding another counter melody. It's also accented to help the learner to better understand which notes line up with each other in poly-rhythms and get the learner used to playing them, and it works immensely well, at least for me. As such, I started working on the Fantaisie-Impromptu with the same technique, and then tried to keep the notes in each hand even with respect to the notes next to it. It helps to learn each passage hands separately until it's practically muscle memory before applying this technique. In simpler steps: 1. Learn each hand separately until it's practically muscle memory, especially with the right fingering. 2. Circle on your sheet music which notes line up on the beat. Use pencil for this. 3. Mark accents on each note in the left hand that lands on the even beats, just like it is in Chopin's Op. 25 No. 1. Again, use pencil. 4. Practice hands together, a couple measures at a time, close to the original tempo, while adding the accents you wrote in. It's actually harder to do this technique if you take it slow. Don't add any accents that are already written in the piece while you do this, or measures 17-21 will REALLY screw you up, as the accents are in odd places. 5. Once your hands are used to the feeling of where the notes fall in the piece and you can play it evenly, remove the accents you added and add the accents already written in. One final tip: listen to a few performances of the piece, and get a general feel for the musicality. Once you've got that, it'll make learning this piece, or rather ANY piece, much easier. HOPE THIS HELPS!
To those of you frustrated from this video, this video is intended for an audience that already has experience playing and practicing classical music. Paul here gives tips and advice for people who already have the ability to learn the notes slowly and bring them up to speed using their own practice methods. Paul's advice applies for the more technically complex parts such as accenting the melody, as well as the emotion and musicality of the performer.
Not only are your videos helpfull, they are also both interesting and enjoyable. Really fantastic work and good on you for making these wonderful peices feel slightly more understandable.
You sir are a genius and i thank you for this amazing tutorial! it surely helped me and you should keep on doing more ! The whole history analysis and the guidance on the piece was awesome ! Keep on the the work!
Hi Paul, I just found your channel today and I want to say that this video is absolutely amazing. I've wanted to learn this piece for over 4 years ago. I really enjoyed your theory and history on such an incredible masterpiece. Thank you!
hi paul, this is my good morning movie :-) i really didnt know the facts about this piece, always wondered why chopin didnt publish it. so thank you! those historical facts are often forgotten when interpreting a piece. besides you once again proved your fascination for piano playing. its nice to see how much fun you have.
I can´t believe why people do not to see how greatfull (particularly enjoyable) are this tutorial, it details exactly the perfromance, debelopment in the most great and fast way to learn fantasie impromptu, even if im a novice in this world, your tutorials make my introduce chopin and learned etude 25no01, and i cant believe the fast progress in this piece (one of the best), so very thank you Paul Barton, i will wait for new tutorials. Have a nice day
Thank you Paul! I finally have the intro to this piece. After a few brutal weeks of almost giving up I came across this video you posted The way you broke this down at the 7:20 mark is when it all came together. Thanks so much
Best TH-cam lesson ever! And you play like you're on the fastfoward mode. You don't stir much but your fingers move like they have their own mind. This song is like one of my life time goals. I'd be so happy if I can just play it fluently half speed *_*
well, I'm progressing on it. Hadn't played much at all of it but a week or two ago I picked it up again and started learning. I now know all the right hand notes, am improving on the speed, and know all of the slow left hand notes and am working on the faster ones bit by bit. This video helps too, thanks a lot! Let me know what you think of that gyro exerciser thing I sent you!
Wonderful! THanks so much! I wonder if you would like to make a video abut the manuscript version. There are a few striking differences. Most striking is the dynamics, which give the whole A section a much more nocturnal atmosphere, so to say. It is on TH-cam, played by Claudio Arrau and also by Amit Yahav, probably also others. . Also, there are text differences, notably in the left hand part in section A. First, the thumb of left hand plays a more developed melody than in the standard version. The implication is far reaching: The melody is played by the left-hand thumb, and right hand is like an ornamental (fioritua?) octave-coubled in the right hand. Second, in bars 14-25 the pattern of left hand is changed, and a beautiful variety of thumb motives, seemingly in improvisation mood. I personally find the manuscript version more interesting and ripe than the standard editions. It was published in 1997 in the beautiful Koenemann edition, Koeln, of the preludes and impromptus volume. I think it is now out of print. But can probably be found somewhere on the web. Co-editor: Tamas Zaszkaliczky, Engraving: Kottamester Bt., Budapest, Katalin Alexay, Lajos Adam, Rva Liptak, Judit Veloesy. Very beautiful engraving. Also the facsimile of op 66 is available for about 75 $ from a few sellers on the web. IMSLP has some interesting editions, notably the one by Godowsky. .
Hi Paul. Thank you so much for this video. Wonderful piano playing and a very enjoyable and informative music-history lesson; love this stuff. I've only started learning this piece as of two days ago so it's a looong road ahead.
Part 2 (he starts playing at 8:30) is my favorite part of the piece, it takes me to a new world and hearing it slowed down, I could play that on loop, sigh.
Paul,I'm really grateful for you!I started learning piano by myself,and I've always wanted to play this!I finally learned how to play it,and with your tips,my interpretation has gotten much more beautiful!Thank you really much!Strong hug from brazilian fan!:D
The difference I can see between the works of Chopin and Moscheles is that Chopin's work had polyrhythms (3 against 4) in the opening bars while Moscheles' work had simpler rhythms in the opening bars.
Paul you're amazing. I like so much both your techinique (you're impossibly fast!) and interpretation. Thank you for the tips in this video. May I ask you some advices to reach the right speed?
I must say, despite you most likely having heard this before, your video gave me the encouragement and aid that I needed to tackle this piece. Not only that, I loved your video as you are superbly insightful and cheery! The history behind the piece/author is fantastic, and I couldn't help but smile when you mentioned how you could picture Chopin trying ideas for the slow section -- I think about that so often with pieces! In short, thank you, you have a new subscriber (:
I really liked this video. Often videos of people playing (or doing anything) brilliantly and effortlessly can be anti-motivational because I just end up thinking that they're so much better than I am, and that practicing is a waste of time because I can never get anywhere close to that point. But by showing the learning process you make it seem achievable.
I dislike how most people play this piece. But you, in my opinion, are by far the one who can play this piece like i want it to sound like ^^ thank you
Thank you for posting this excellent video, it was really a pleasure to watch. A great combination of history and context, practice ideas, and a little theory thrown in too. It was very interesting to hear the corresponding pieces that influenced Chopin. And above all, great communication and passion for your subject. You would put most university professors to shame!
@PaulBartonPiano i really, really liked the moscheles version, but couldn't find it performed ANYWHERE on the internet which is a pretty odd thing:D somehow i could find the sheets...do you know any recorded video of this piece? or the best thing would be - like someone else said before - a video of you sir playing it:)
Hey paul! I just wonder, is this piece very hard? Ive just completed chopins waltz op 64 no 2, and really want to learn this! Ive played in 5-6 years and have a feeling thats its a bit early to start with this song?? Im only 15, so i dont know! :D what do you think??
I'm 16 and i finish the Waltz Op 69 no 2 last month, i've been pleying the piano for 3 years, and now i'm startin Watlz op 64 no 2, and i think is too early, but i'm not an expert
ichigoblack123456789 Good luck! I find Waltz op 64 no 2 as a kinda hard piece. It may be that I'm practicing at a electric piano. The third page is hard to read, but is a lovely piece! :)
Ah, Op. 64 No. 2... one of the most catchy songs by chopin, and one that annoyed me in my youth. I love to hear it played now, my ears must have changed a little. Congratulations. Like you, I learnt quite a lot of Chopin at 15, one being Op. 69 No. 2 for my high school exam. I can only comment for myself, but I found Fantasie Impromptu harder than I expected. I rarely practice scales, so that made it harder. If you practice scales every day at a decent tempo, I'm sure you will be fine with this piece. I found arpeggio-based pieces easier because I practice them every single day. It really helps to learn the boring stuff.
Ichigoblack123456789 - The Walking Dead if you really want to learn this piece you sure as hell can I've been playing for a little over a year and in learning the moonlight sonata 3rd movement cause I practice all the time
muy interesante, especialmente quede sorprendido con las notas exactamente iguales de fantasia Impromptu y del tercer mov. de la sonata moonlight. How did you dicovered the fact that both pieces have the same notes....did you read it or you just found it out.......great video.
Hi Paul, I've tried searching for the moscheles impromptu in E flat major on TH-cam and looking for the sheet music, but it doesn't return any results. I was wondering where I might be able to get a copy of the sheet music, as I'm looking at learning the piece- is t
Thanks a lot for the explanation on why chopin didn't publish it and for the history behind this piece. He really did transform the simpler work by Moscheles.
@mateus7deus, please tell me what the song name, or how to find this song from Ignaz Moscheles, because I looked around the places of the internet, I found a result, I really liked when he played it, so I tried, but I do not think please tell me.
LH is the bane of my existence - I practice triplets so much with metronome, and can get somewhat evenness at slow speeds about bpm 90, but when I speed up I can hear the unevenness creep in LH because my brain is so focused on the RH melody.
Thank you for this video, it is excellent! I have been playing this piece for years, but I never knew the history behind it. I have not been able to get it up to it's proper speed without it falling apart. You have inspired me to work on that. Great job!
I`m glad I found this I`m started by learning both hands seperately for a week. When I out both hands together I managed to get the timing right Its a bit tricky but I`m getting it now after watching your lesson Many thanks Paul
Might I add a footnote to practicing the opening 4 against 3 passages as presented at 7:05? After playing with accents on beats 1, 2, 3, and 4, setting the metronome to beat on those same accents will be a nice interim step into playing the passages without any accents. I have found that utilizing the metronome for difficult passages such as these in Chopin has worked very well.One must listen carefully to the MM, and both parts, which I believe, raised my ability to coordinate the two hands.
Wow , brilliant ! superb playing and very helpful insights : I am on a mission to watch every single youtube video on this piece which I started to play 2 weeks ago . I reckon it will take a few months to get it up to speed . It is interesting how all the different teachers have their own way of explaining and I am learning from all of them but I particularly like your methods . Thank you so much !
@paulbartonpiano just out of curiosity......is Chopin your favorite composer? Because in a lot of your videos you play his pieces. By the way, love your videos as always!!
But you're not talking about the polyrhythm, which is a cornerstone of this piece. It make the left hand sound like "1 - 2 and" instead of an even "1 - 2 - 3".
I like the Impromtu you played. I would like to study it. You played in a so beautiful manner that i am intented to play it . I would like very much to attend a recital of yours here in Brasilia.
Hi Paul, thank you for your hands-on tutorial as well as your introduction and comments about this masterpiece. Do you have more specific advice to succeed the 4 to 3 ? That is really hard for numbers of pianists.
Can you make a tutorial for how to play Alkan's l'incendie au village voisin? It's one of the craziest pieces I've ever heard, disregarding some of Alkan's other insane pieces (ie comme le vent, le chemin de fer, etc.)
@anonymousQ45 True, it's not easier, but before, I couldn't play this piece mostly because of those rythms that I had never understood. But now, plus the fact that I increased my skill indeed, this piece is much more playable particulary because now I understand how the rythms work.
Paul Barton's tutorials are the best i've seen.
William Udy Truly...
This is truly higher education.
AMEN BEST TEACHER/TUTORIALS!! //THE MUSIC WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE MYSTERY COMPLETELY/ THANK GOOD FOR PAUL BARTON'S MUSIC SOUL!!!
Very enjoyable, I completely agree. I recently found a similarly clear, upbeat and informative channel called Sonata Secrets, by Swedish pianist Henrik Kilhamn. You may like it too!
I used to be able to play this in my sleep, but then I moved and couldn't take a piano or keyboard and lost about 75% of my skills. Learning it again is so frustrating especially since my fingers are so rusty and I know I can do it
Keep going :D!
You absolutely have the potential to do it. Music is fortunately/unfortunately ephemeral. Any time we musicians NAIL a performance, that's great, but it will fall off very quickly, in 2-3 days we will have plateau'd and in a couple weeks' time of not looking at it, we will regress back from that peak. In 2-3 months, our muscle memory loses all the toughest stuff, and it's back to drilling it once more to get the tough stuff back in shape.
Same here.. learning again after 20 years
@@gonzalochirinos8505 Same here. I am learning again after 40 years. Practice slowly with hands separately until you can player faster and accurately. Your muscle memory will take over and you will be able to play faster.
Did you learn it?
Chopin didn't want to get copyrighted xD thats why he didn't publish it lol
jk
Well actually though xD Out of respect too ofc
Can we copystrike chopin, like right now?
Ecks deee
i think Chopin thought that his Fantaisie Impromptu was too similar of Moschelles's Impromptu, and thought it (loosely) would be considered plagiarism, so that's why it was never "publicly" published.
Thanks Paul. You are brilliant! Still getting my morning inspiration from your amazing videos! This is one of the biggest benefits of having broke my thumb 3 weeks ago. I travel to England, France, Poland & Thailand all with the click of a "TH-cam" button, with instructions from one of the world's most gifted instructors. Awesome!
Mr. Barton you are the best teacher in the world.
You have helped me a lot.
I'm to play this in public in November.
Thanks so much.
GOODLUCK
I need to practice
How did it go??
@@heheboi8365 very well, thank you!!!
Sir Barton, your methods and ways of presentation of music is incredible. You have a deep and profound sense of humanity. I see it in your work with elephants. I see it in your sculpture work, especially your Nina Simone. I only wish I could have had a teacher like you when I was young man. Although I know I will never be able to play this work, your teaching and demonstration gives me some joy in hearing such a master artist. I call you an artist because you are many times more than a musician. You are a humanitarian! Thank you Sir, for all that you do.
Your tips have given me hope of playing this someday...
it's not as hard as it looks, give it a go
I’ve been trying to play this a while I’m so bad lol
@@kingjamesbiblebeliever8387 I suck! Lol... I surely have a problem with polyrhythmia.
Daniel Moreira yeah. I can play some of Chopin’s other pieces but this one is a whole different animal. I’ve been trying to tame it for quite some time. Nothing is working lol.
@@kingjamesbiblebeliever8387 If you compare it with the Ballades, the Scherzos, the Sonatas, it's actually easier... But polyrhythmia is what makes it impossible for me. It's not even the tempo... Some of his Nocturnes and Études are also loaded with polyrhythmia. Just too difficult. Chopin is a true genius, a master of melody, harmony and rhythm!
Wow, tremendously well made video! Honestly one of the best I've seen on youtube... Thanks for taking the time to make it. You're a true gift to classical piano aficionados and amateurs around the globe. Keep up the good and motivational work!
Chopin: Don't publish
Fontana: lol
Charles Mcbain stolen
please be my teacher
Thank you for a very informative and helpful video. For years I've heard the story of Chopin's fear that this was too close to Moscheles' work but this is the first time I've actually heard the Moscheles piece. Nothing like actually hearing as opposed to reading about the similarities. Still, most will probably agree that Chopin added more than enough to claim it as an original work in its own right, his fears notwithstanding.
Thank you Paul. An intricate analysis and thought provoking dissection of Chopin's motives. I learnt this piece 11 years ago. It's my favourite and now I can appreciate it on a whole new level.
Thank you for playing Moscheles piece, and for all that comparison thing. I like very much yours tutorials!
Please, just please don't try to make the triplets and sixteens 'eventually' fit inbetween the bars. Learn the 4:3 Polyrythm exactly and precised, as your speed goes up automatically.
+Dannton use the TRLRLR and you will be fine
That's exactly what a 4:3 Polyrythm is.
so 3:4 would be TLRLRL or?
+Eyhab Youssef its not you just simply that ...
Frédéric Chopin wtf!
I have another technique that is actually showcased in Chopin's Etude Op. 25 No. 1 starting at measure 17. The 3rd note in the 4-note 16th note groups is accented for more than just adding another counter melody. It's also accented to help the learner to better understand which notes line up with each other in poly-rhythms and get the learner used to playing them, and it works immensely well, at least for me. As such, I started working on the Fantaisie-Impromptu with the same technique, and then tried to keep the notes in each hand even with respect to the notes next to it. It helps to learn each passage hands separately until it's practically muscle memory before applying this technique.
In simpler steps:
1. Learn each hand separately until it's practically muscle memory, especially with the right fingering.
2. Circle on your sheet music which notes line up on the beat. Use pencil for this.
3. Mark accents on each note in the left hand that lands on the even beats, just like it is in Chopin's Op. 25 No. 1. Again, use pencil.
4. Practice hands together, a couple measures at a time, close to the original tempo, while adding the accents you wrote in. It's actually harder to do this technique if you take it slow.
Don't add any accents that are already written in the piece while you do this, or measures 17-21 will REALLY screw you up, as the accents are in odd places.
5. Once your hands are used to the feeling of where the notes fall in the piece and you can play it evenly, remove the accents you added and add the accents already written in.
One final tip: listen to a few performances of the piece, and get a general feel for the musicality. Once you've got that, it'll make learning this piece, or rather ANY piece, much easier.
HOPE THIS HELPS!
Thank you so much Mr. Barton, the visualization you made for the first couple of measures is really helpful! I'm so glad that you made this tutorial.
This is a great history and tutorial video. I learned a lot from this. Please keep making more videos.
I love how you broke this down and explained in great detail with awsome tips! Thanks!
To those of you frustrated from this video, this video is intended for an audience that already has experience playing and practicing classical music. Paul here gives tips and advice for people who already have the ability to learn the notes slowly and bring them up to speed using their own practice methods. Paul's advice applies for the more technically complex parts such as accenting the melody, as well as the emotion and musicality of the performer.
Thank you, Paul, for all of your content that I've enjoyed and benefited over the years.
i love how you teach the song and the story behind it and not only how to play the song.
Not only are your videos helpfull, they are also both interesting and enjoyable. Really fantastic work and good on you for making these wonderful peices feel slightly more understandable.
You sir are a genius and i thank you for this amazing tutorial! it surely helped me and you should keep on doing more ! The whole history analysis and the guidance on the piece was awesome ! Keep on the the work!
Hi Paul, I just found your channel today and I want to say that this video is absolutely amazing. I've wanted to learn this piece for over 4 years ago. I really enjoyed your theory and history on such an incredible masterpiece. Thank you!
This is a wonderful tutorial. I'm pretty new to classical piano so this video is very helpful. Thank you!
Как легко у Вас бегают пальцы! Вы настоящий учитель!
How easily have You running your fingers! You're a real teacher!
This was very helpful! I've learned more about music here than I did when I played for IMIF. Keep making videos like this, Paul Barton!
hi paul,
this is my good morning movie :-) i really didnt know the facts about this piece, always wondered why chopin didnt publish it. so thank you! those historical facts are often forgotten when interpreting a piece. besides you once again proved your fascination for piano playing. its nice to see how much fun you have.
I can´t believe why people do not to see how greatfull (particularly enjoyable) are this tutorial, it details exactly the perfromance, debelopment in the most great and fast way to learn fantasie impromptu, even if im a novice in this world, your tutorials make my introduce chopin and learned etude 25no01, and i cant believe the fast progress in this piece (one of the best), so very thank you Paul Barton, i will wait for new tutorials. Have a nice day
Chopin cared about other people's work what a nice guy :)
are you kidding me? youtube has been hiding this gem from me for years
Same aynen
Thank you Paul! I finally have the intro to this piece. After a few brutal weeks of almost giving up I came across this video you posted The way you broke this down at the 7:20 mark is when it all came together. Thanks so much
Without your video, i wouldnt even be close to being able to play fantasie. Thanks!
Youre great!
Please, more tutorials!!! This Is a very complete tutorial!! Thanks.
Can't thank you enough times for this and all you've done here on TH-cam.
Best TH-cam lesson ever!
And you play like you're on the fastfoward mode. You don't stir much but your fingers move like they have their own mind.
This song is like one of my life time goals. I'd be so happy if I can just play it fluently half speed *_*
This is the best advice I have found so far on *the whole of the internet* on how to learn and practice this piece. Thank you so much!
well, I'm progressing on it. Hadn't played much at all of it but a week or two ago I picked it up again and started learning. I now know all the right hand notes, am improving on the speed, and know all of the slow left hand notes and am working on the faster ones bit by bit. This video helps too, thanks a lot! Let me know what you think of that gyro exerciser thing I sent you!
Wonderful! THanks so much!
I wonder if you would like to make a video abut the manuscript version. There are a few striking differences.
Most striking is the dynamics, which give the whole A section a much more nocturnal atmosphere, so to say. It is on TH-cam, played by Claudio Arrau and also by Amit Yahav, probably also others. .
Also, there are text differences, notably in the left hand part in section A.
First, the thumb of left hand plays a more developed melody than in the standard version. The implication is far reaching: The melody is played by the left-hand thumb, and right hand is like an ornamental (fioritua?) octave-coubled in the right hand.
Second, in bars 14-25 the pattern of left hand is changed, and a beautiful variety of thumb motives, seemingly in improvisation mood.
I personally find the manuscript version more interesting and ripe than the standard editions.
It was published in 1997 in the beautiful Koenemann edition, Koeln, of the preludes and impromptus volume.
I think it is now out of print. But can probably be found somewhere on the web.
Co-editor: Tamas Zaszkaliczky, Engraving: Kottamester Bt., Budapest, Katalin Alexay, Lajos Adam, Rva Liptak, Judit Veloesy. Very beautiful engraving.
Also the facsimile of op 66 is available for about 75 $ from a few sellers on the web. IMSLP has some interesting editions, notably the one by Godowsky. .
Hi Paul. Thank you so much for this video. Wonderful piano playing and a very enjoyable and informative music-history lesson; love this stuff. I've only started learning this piece as of two days ago so it's a looong road ahead.
Thank you Sir Paul for explanation, can you please help us about the understanding of Turnery Form and Promptu
Part 2 (he starts playing at 8:30) is my favorite part of the piece, it takes me to a new world and hearing it slowed down, I could play that on loop, sigh.
Paul,I'm really grateful for you!I started learning piano by myself,and I've always wanted to play this!I finally learned how to play it,and with your tips,my interpretation has gotten much more beautiful!Thank you really much!Strong hug from brazilian fan!:D
The difference I can see between the works of Chopin and Moscheles is that Chopin's work had polyrhythms (3 against 4) in the opening bars while Moscheles' work had simpler rhythms in the opening bars.
Paul you're amazing. I like so much both your techinique (you're impossibly fast!) and interpretation. Thank you for the tips in this video. May I ask you some advices to reach the right speed?
You sir are a great teacher
I just love Chopin's music soo much!
Thank you very much for such a wonderful and helpful tutorial
Learning the history behind pieces is so interesting
Mr. Barton thank you a lot. great job and humbles as always.
i learned this song in two weeks and ive been playing the piano for 2 years... hard work and true dedication
Piece* :)
Do you still play?
i learned in 2 weeks too but with poor technic im playing only 2 mounts
I don't know what I would do without you, Paul.
I must say, despite you most likely having heard this before, your video gave me the encouragement and aid that I needed to tackle this piece. Not only that, I loved your video as you are superbly insightful and cheery! The history behind the piece/author is fantastic, and I couldn't help but smile when you mentioned how you could picture Chopin trying ideas for the slow section -- I think about that so often with pieces! In short, thank you, you have a new subscriber (:
I really liked this video. Often videos of people playing (or doing anything) brilliantly and effortlessly can be anti-motivational because I just end up thinking that they're so much better than I am, and that practicing is a waste of time because I can never get anywhere close to that point. But by showing the learning process you make it seem achievable.
Excellent work sir, thank you very much for sharing this with us!
I dislike how most people play this piece. But you, in my opinion, are by far the one who can play this piece like i want it to sound like ^^ thank you
YOU ARE A MUSIC SOUL'S SONG PAUL BARTON
Thank you for posting this excellent video, it was really a pleasure to watch. A great combination of history and context, practice ideas, and a little theory thrown in too. It was very interesting to hear the corresponding pieces that influenced Chopin. And above all, great communication and passion for your subject. You would put most university professors to shame!
@PaulBartonPiano i really, really liked the moscheles version, but couldn't find it performed ANYWHERE on the internet which is a pretty odd thing:D somehow i could find the sheets...do you know any recorded video of this piece? or the best thing would be - like someone else said before - a video of you sir playing it:)
Your videos are incredibly well crafted.
Hey paul! I just wonder, is this piece very hard? Ive just completed chopins waltz op 64 no 2, and really want to learn this! Ive played in 5-6 years and have a feeling thats its a bit early to start with this song?? Im only 15, so i dont know! :D what do you think??
I'm 16 and i finish the Waltz Op 69 no 2 last month, i've been pleying the piano for 3 years, and now i'm startin Watlz op 64 no 2, and i think is too early, but i'm not an expert
ichigoblack123456789 Good luck! I find Waltz op 64 no 2 as a kinda hard piece. It may be that I'm practicing at a electric piano. The third page is hard to read, but is a lovely piece! :)
Ah, Op. 64 No. 2... one of the most catchy songs by chopin, and one that annoyed me in my youth. I love to hear it played now, my ears must have changed a little. Congratulations.
Like you, I learnt quite a lot of Chopin at 15, one being Op. 69 No. 2 for my high school exam. I can only comment for myself, but I found Fantasie Impromptu harder than I expected. I rarely practice scales, so that made it harder. If you practice scales every day at a decent tempo, I'm sure you will be fine with this piece. I found arpeggio-based pieces easier because I practice them every single day. It really helps to learn the boring stuff.
Vetle Nærø I could play fantasie impromptu, but it is very hard, i think is too hard for me
Ichigoblack123456789 - The Walking Dead if you really want to learn this piece you sure as hell can I've been playing for a little over a year and in learning the moonlight sonata 3rd movement cause I practice all the time
Magnificent video! Fine analysis and fine playing. Thank you!
muy interesante, especialmente quede sorprendido con las notas exactamente iguales de fantasia Impromptu y del tercer mov. de la sonata moonlight.
How did you dicovered the fact that both pieces have the same notes....did you read it or you just found it out.......great video.
Very nice discussion and performance - much appreciated.
Hi Paul, I've tried searching for the moscheles impromptu in E flat major on TH-cam and looking for the sheet music, but it doesn't return any results. I was wondering where I might be able to get a copy of the sheet music, as I'm looking at learning the piece- is t
Thanks a lot for the explanation on why chopin didn't publish it and for the history behind this piece. He really did transform the simpler work by Moscheles.
@mateus7deus, please tell me what the song name, or how to find this song from Ignaz Moscheles, because I looked around the places of the internet, I found a result, I really liked when he played it, so I tried, but I do not think please tell me.
Very good tutorial. May I ask, how do I play section 2 of the song? I had some difficulties playing with my right hand.
LH is the bane of my existence - I practice triplets so much with metronome, and can get somewhat evenness at slow speeds about bpm 90, but when I speed up I can hear the unevenness creep in LH because my brain is so focused on the RH melody.
Thank you for this video, it is excellent! I have been playing this piece for years, but I never knew the history behind it. I have not been able to get it up to it's proper speed without it falling apart. You have inspired me to work on that. Great job!
I`m glad I found this I`m started by learning both hands seperately for a week. When I out both hands together I managed to get the timing right Its a bit tricky but I`m getting it now after watching your lesson Many thanks Paul
Might I add a footnote to practicing the opening 4 against 3 passages as presented at 7:05?
After playing with accents on beats 1, 2, 3, and 4, setting the metronome to beat on those same accents will be a nice interim step into playing the passages without any accents. I have found that utilizing the metronome for difficult passages such as these in Chopin has worked very well.One must listen carefully to the MM, and both parts, which I believe, raised my ability to coordinate the two hands.
Paul, this tutorial is very helpful and informative! Thanks!
Wow , brilliant ! superb playing and very helpful insights : I am on a mission to watch every single youtube video on this piece which I started to play 2 weeks ago . I reckon it will take a few months to get it up to speed . It is interesting how all the different teachers have their own way of explaining and I am learning from all of them but I particularly like your methods . Thank you so much !
Hi Paul Can You make a Video on Sight-Reading at the Piano and How to Sight read
@paulbartonpiano just out of curiosity......is Chopin your favorite composer? Because in a lot of your videos you play his pieces. By the way, love your videos as always!!
Does anyone know where to find a recording of Moscheles' Impromptu in E flat? It would be great to compare the two pieces in more depth.
Thank you very much you are great great talentuous musician
Great performance! Any suggestions how to practice the pedaling of the first part?
Paul, wonderful as always!
At 7.18 is there a malapropism? Rather it should be 'keep the wrist supple'??
Matt
But you're not talking about the polyrhythm, which is a cornerstone of this piece. It make the left hand sound like "1 - 2 and" instead of an even "1 - 2 - 3".
Although I am years away from this, if at all, this was a beautiful lesson thank you so much for making it
Excellent tutorial, thank you so much Dear Paul Barton
Paul could you play Fantaisie Impromptu (Rubinstein version)?
i LOVE this video! thank you for existing
No puedo creer que haya este tipo de tutoriales hace 10 años. Muy bueno.....!!!!
I like the Impromtu you played. I would like to study it. You played in a so beautiful manner that i am intented to play it . I would like very much to attend a recital of yours here in Brasilia.
How do you know whether the notes are played together simultaneously in the beginning. I can't line them up well as I usually do.
Hi Paul, thank you for your hands-on tutorial as well as your introduction and comments about this masterpiece.
Do you have more specific advice to succeed the 4 to 3 ? That is really hard for numbers of pianists.
Can you make a tutorial for how to play Alkan's l'incendie au village voisin? It's one of the craziest pieces I've ever heard, disregarding some of Alkan's other insane pieces (ie comme le vent, le chemin de fer, etc.)
Thank you! This was amazing! I appreciate all your tutorials!
Mr. Barton could you play the entire impromptu by Ignaz Mocheles? There is no one else playing it in YT :/
Your lessons are really enjoyable, especially the chopin etudes.
Amazing tutorial Paul, appreciated also the historical part.
This is amazing. Learning it right now, I'm intrigued but nervous!
Still watching and learning from this video in 2021 :)
Hi Paul! Great work, I really enjoy your videos! May I ask which Yamaha upright do you use in your tutorials? It sounds really good.
Thank you for your encourage.
I do this all the time. Is it legal to take rhythms from songs(patterns) and use your own notes and melody? And publish it?
@anonymousQ45 True, it's not easier, but before, I couldn't play this piece mostly because of those rythms that I had never understood. But now, plus the fact that I increased my skill indeed, this piece is much more playable particulary because now I understand how the rythms work.