MLS is leaving a bunch of major league cities open for USL, such as Buffalo, Cleveland, Sacramento, and cities already in USL such as Detroit, Milwaukee and Tampa Bay..
In order for a team to be in MLS an ownership group needs to buy there way in my dude. Get a billionaire to drop more than half a billion and then all these other small markets can have a team. I think MLS is ok with having USL have the scraps.
@@duckmcnutty You are delusional if you think that USL teams will "chip away" at MLS teams dominating them across all competitions. The gap between the quality of play is noticeable.
Haha he doesn’t want to add pro/ rel he’s just saying that to appease fans. Y’all are delusional to think USL wouldn’t be behaving like MLS if the positions were switched. But y’all are just European shills lol
My question is why ddnt they just bring up FC Buffalo? This is what I really hate about MLS and USL now. Its so fucking simpile. If there is a team in the potential new market, just bring that team in! Edit: Hey glad im not the only one who mentioned FC Buffalo.
The reason is that USL2 is not a professional league and the jump into professional soccer requires exponentially more money. USL2 ownership groups don't usually have those kind of resources. The expansion fees alone cost like $20 million, but the real cost is travel across the US, paying a full professional roster, building a stadium, and paying for full-time staff rather than relying on volunteers. USL2 rosters are basically volunteer--it's college kids playing during summer. Those guys aren't available for a full-season league unless they want to give up NCAA eligibility. Most of the stadiums USL2 teams occupy also aren't available year-round because they belong to schools/universities who are using them during the other 3 seasons.
I mean… MLS has a much better product to watch and is actually building talent. Top tier talent isn’t coming the US to play in USL, they are playing in MLS.
Very excited but I really hope they change the name. Buffalo will support this team but it’s hard to support a team with a name like that. I would say make it a name like Buffalo United or a cool team name
it's very unfortunate for us in Rochester to have lost our team, they built a 10,000 seat stadium and were doing well enough , I think Buffalo fans will appreciate it more and it will do well. They should be drawing some fans from Rochester that will make the trip west on I-90 like myself a few times a year.
USL should built coast to coast divisions of 16 to 18 each. The best would be a midwest-northeast, a Atlantic south-south central and a western division. The USL will benefit from local derbies and fans being able to travel to away games. Boston playing Worcester or San Francisco playing Sacremento are more attractive than Detroit vs. Miami.
Growing up in a Ohio, I only new about MLS & Columbus. I've since moved to Pittsburgh & started following USL & the Riverhounds. Buffalo would be a great addition to the league & rival to Pittsburgh. I agree with adding more midwestern teams but make sure it's the right market to avoid it folding. Love your videos. Keep up the great content!
Considering how many other sports are in Buffalo it sounds fair to have them enter into the Championship. My home state of Maine just unveiled the name of our USL League One team starting in 2025, Portland Hearts of Pine! :)
Arkansas is coming in 2026 Too so that is awesome! Was just thinking a usl team in Buffalo would be killer!! Not excited to hear about Indianapolis looking to get an MLS team though.
@@StudioZK84the outlook in Indy is pretty negative. Mayor has made it very clear his goal is to kill the Eleven and it's pretty much confirmed now that the Eleven won't be getting a stadium.
I've recently looked more into the USL and I would like to see more teams in the Midwest as well. Peoria City in the USL2 is my local club and I certainly identify with them much more than I do with any club in or around either Chicago or St. Louis.
Non American here, why there is no relegations and promotions in US football leuages? Which one is first division leuage USL or MLS? Someone please explain
@@USLInsight Ahh.. Got your point. But if there is no promotions and relegations, technically you can not say this is first division and this is second!! 😅
Also correct on pushing back. Boise actually had an official announcement of joining USL Championship barring a multi-use sports complex that would house both a baseball stadium for the minor league team Boise Hawks and the Boise USL club but the deal fell through. Manchester, NH too but nothing else has come to fruition but the plan is still there despite New England Revolution putting their reserve club in New Hampshire (undermining USL again by MLS) but the owners aren’t quitting. Des Moines is another. They had one in place but something is up with getting that stadium built (also people are still hoping it’s the Menace that is the pro club instead of a new one). New Orleans is another
@@USLInsight don’t know. Sometimes it’s maybe they want a fresh clean start or the existing team’s owner(s) is stubborn (hello Chattanooga FC. Funny how CFC could’ve been in USL right now instead of the Red Wolves)
@@USLInsight I think the karma gods are hitting MLS right now. Messi has been out for a while and missed tonight’s CONCACAF cup first leg. Miami lost and now head to Monterey down 2-1. I like Messi but MLS has really gone full on greedy once they landed him and the Apple deal. Cause I know people would only join MLS Season Pass for Messi. Otherwise Apple prolly could’ve Cullen the deal soon (I looked it up and Apple can if they aren’t satisfied).
So it is happening after all. I remember hearing about this like a few years ago of Buffalo getting a team but no news about anything happened. Same with a possible team in Wilmington, NC (this is something I’m against. 1) we don’t need another team in a state that has a club, 2) Wilmington doesn’t sound like they’ll draw a crowd like Central Valley and South Georgia) as well as a team in Oregon from some semi-pro club looking to go pro
It’s never gonna happen. Even if there was pro/rel the people that want it won’t tune in because then they will say the quality is bad. The US does not need pro/rel to have a successful league
2:51 correct. MLSNP is only that type for fans to check out just cause. No major reason to go other than cause the main club is out of town or off. And also all games aren’t on AppleTV. Some are put on here on TH-cam and views aren’t big
Cupsets! Ventura County FC (formerly LA Galaxy II) fall 3-0 to Irvine Zeta of NISA and northern Colorado is able to get the win in extras over Colorado Rapids 2. Only 3 remain from MLSNP: NYCFC II (they played Red Bulls II so at least one was advancing anyways), Chicago Fire II, and Carolina Core (I watched that match the most and feel Vermont was robbed cause ref seemed like he played favorites for Carolina in the second half). NISA has 2 left: Irvine of course I mentioned and Michigan Stars (the club’s owner who thinks he has a play for MLS one day). USL League One will have 8: Richmond, Charlotte, South Georgia, Greenville, Chattanooga, Omaha, Northern Colorado, and Spokane. NPSL with 2: El Farolito (the Cinderella darlings named after a Mexican restaurant) & Lubbock Matadors and Miami United of the USSL (I guess a regional league) are the other 3 that round out the 16 who’ll match up with USL Championship clubs in round 3
There's no promotion and relegation based on performance on the field. What happens with teams like FC Cincinnati is that they start in USL and build a large enough stadium, sell enough tickets, get enough investors, and then buy their way into MLS. So in a way it is like promotion but it is based on financial resources. We had a USL team in Rochester that used to get 6000-7000 attendance per game and at one time floated the idea of going into MLS but could not get enough investment to buy their way in. Some teams like Pittsburgh in USL have a smaller stadium and get attendance of about 4000 per game. Some teams have larger stadiums in USL like Sacramento and have plans to eventually buy their way into MLS and get over 10,000 per game. FC Cincinnati was getting huge crowds in their last year in USL of over 20,000 and had the top flight atmosphere going already.
@@rochesterjohnny7555in order to to join MLS a ownership group needs to buy into the league. San Diego ownership dropped half a billion just to say a team is coming . No stadium, no players, no practice facilities, just to say they are starting a team.
Between MLS 2024 and USL Championship 2024, the latter is a truly national league, unlike the former. Now, the context of 'national league' I'm talking about here is a sports league where each team plays all the other teams in the league at least once per season. As you may have known, USLC teams play intra-conference rivals twice and inter-conference ones once. Therefore, the team with the best overall regular season record has indeed achieved that after playing EVERYONE, similar to many top European and South American leagues. MLS teams don't, so instead of being a national league, not playing some teams at all in a season, perhaps it's basically a 'regional league'.
MLS is leaving a bunch of major league cities open for USL, such as Buffalo, Cleveland, Sacramento, and cities already in USL such as Detroit, Milwaukee and Tampa Bay..
In order for a team to be in MLS an ownership group needs to buy there way in my dude. Get a billionaire to drop more than half a billion and then all these other small markets can have a team. I think MLS is ok with having USL have the scraps.
More eyeballs = more competition. These major markets could begin to chip away at mls dominance.
@@duckmcnutty You are delusional if you think that USL teams will "chip away" at MLS teams dominating them across all competitions. The gap between the quality of play is noticeable.
USL in general is doing it the right way tbh. I know the president wants to add pro/reg in the future.
He's been saying that
@USLInsight yeah just don't wNt to rush it especially when clubs are being added tot he leagues left and right
Haha he doesn’t want to add pro/ rel he’s just saying that to appease fans. Y’all are delusional to think USL wouldn’t be behaving like MLS if the positions were switched. But y’all are just European shills lol
My question is why ddnt they just bring up FC Buffalo? This is what I really hate about MLS and USL now. Its so fucking simpile. If there is a team in the potential new market, just bring that team in!
Edit: Hey glad im not the only one who mentioned FC Buffalo.
The reason is that USL2 is not a professional league and the jump into professional soccer requires exponentially more money. USL2 ownership groups don't usually have those kind of resources.
The expansion fees alone cost like $20 million, but the real cost is travel across the US, paying a full professional roster, building a stadium, and paying for full-time staff rather than relying on volunteers. USL2 rosters are basically volunteer--it's college kids playing during summer. Those guys aren't available for a full-season league unless they want to give up NCAA eligibility. Most of the stadiums USL2 teams occupy also aren't available year-round because they belong to schools/universities who are using them during the other 3 seasons.
Hopefully, Buffalo Pro Soccer can become a new USL club in the next few years, and become sustainable.
as a belgian i think usl is more of the future for american soccer then mls is
I mean… MLS has a much better product to watch and is actually building talent. Top tier talent isn’t coming the US to play in USL, they are playing in MLS.
Awesome stuff bro!! Great to see someone bringing coverage to USL and seeing someone else promoting the game in the US! Keep going bro!
Very excited but I really hope they change the name. Buffalo will support this team but it’s hard to support a team with a name like that. I would say make it a name like Buffalo United or a cool team name
it's very unfortunate for us in Rochester to have lost our team, they built a 10,000 seat stadium and were doing well enough , I think Buffalo fans will appreciate it more and it will do well. They should be drawing some fans from Rochester that will make the trip west on I-90 like myself a few times a year.
USL should built coast to coast divisions of 16 to 18 each. The best would be a midwest-northeast, a Atlantic south-south central and a western division. The USL will benefit from local derbies and fans being able to travel to away games. Boston playing Worcester or San Francisco playing Sacremento are more attractive than Detroit vs. Miami.
Growing up in a Ohio, I only new about MLS & Columbus. I've since moved to Pittsburgh & started following USL & the Riverhounds. Buffalo would be a great addition to the league & rival to Pittsburgh. I agree with adding more midwestern teams but make sure it's the right market to avoid it folding. Love your videos. Keep up the great content!
Thank You !!
Our former coach does very well with the Riverhounds on a limited budget doesn't he
Considering how many other sports are in Buffalo it sounds fair to have them enter into the Championship. My home state of Maine just unveiled the name of our USL League One team starting in 2025, Portland Hearts of Pine! :)
Its great seeing more and more teams coming to fruition
I went to the fa fest/ crest unveiling for the Hearts on Saturday, huge crowd in Thompson Point, USL in Maine is going to be huge
Arkansas is coming in 2026 Too so that is awesome! Was just thinking a usl team in Buffalo would be killer!! Not excited to hear about Indianapolis looking to get an MLS team though.
Yeah that news was crazy !
Hope the Eleven fans can rally together and stop this one from happening. We don't need another san deigo situation at all!
@@StudioZK84the outlook in Indy is pretty negative. Mayor has made it very clear his goal is to kill the Eleven and it's pretty much confirmed now that the Eleven won't be getting a stadium.
Great news! I wish there was more clubs in smaller communities!
same !
I've recently looked more into the USL and I would like to see more teams in the Midwest as well. Peoria City in the USL2 is my local club and I certainly identify with them much more than I do with any club in or around either Chicago or St. Louis.
Peoria City mentioned 🍾🥳🎊
Let's be honest, not even USLHQ really cares about USL2. Outside of maybe a handful of clubs, it's an afterthought for the rest of the USL system.
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Wearing that 1860 jersey - greetings from Germany, an Eintracht Frankfurt Fan to be more precise 🥳
That's really Cool !
Non American here, why there is no relegations and promotions in US football leuages? Which one is first division leuage USL or MLS? Someone please explain
There is no promotion/relegation because of money. A closed system protects the owners on their investments.
MLS is division one USL is division two.
@@USLInsight Ahh.. Got your point. But if there is no promotions and relegations, technically you can not say this is first division and this is second!! 😅
Also correct on pushing back. Boise actually had an official announcement of joining USL Championship barring a multi-use sports complex that would house both a baseball stadium for the minor league team Boise Hawks and the Boise USL club but the deal fell through. Manchester, NH too but nothing else has come to fruition but the plan is still there despite New England Revolution putting their reserve club in New Hampshire (undermining USL again by MLS) but the owners aren’t quitting. Des Moines is another. They had one in place but something is up with getting that stadium built (also people are still hoping it’s the Menace that is the pro club instead of a new one). New Orleans is another
Why do you think it is that people with more $ don't want to help build up a team that already exists ?
@@USLInsight don’t know. Sometimes it’s maybe they want a fresh clean start or the existing team’s owner(s) is stubborn (hello Chattanooga FC. Funny how CFC could’ve been in USL right now instead of the Red Wolves)
@@USLInsight I think the karma gods are hitting MLS right now. Messi has been out for a while and missed tonight’s CONCACAF cup first leg. Miami lost and now head to Monterey down 2-1. I like Messi but MLS has really gone full on greedy once they landed him and the Apple deal. Cause I know people would only join MLS Season Pass for Messi. Otherwise Apple prolly could’ve Cullen the deal soon (I looked it up and Apple can if they aren’t satisfied).
Could they play at Sahlen Field until they build their own ground? Team name: Buffalo Chips. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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So it is happening after all. I remember hearing about this like a few years ago of Buffalo getting a team but no news about anything happened. Same with a possible team in Wilmington, NC (this is something I’m against. 1) we don’t need another team in a state that has a club, 2) Wilmington doesn’t sound like they’ll draw a crowd like Central Valley and South Georgia) as well as a team in Oregon from some semi-pro club looking to go pro
add promotion and relegation
USL isn’t ready for it
It’s never gonna happen. Even if there was pro/rel the people that want it won’t tune in because then they will say the quality is bad. The US does not need pro/rel to have a successful league
European bias
2:51 correct. MLSNP is only that type for fans to check out just cause. No major reason to go other than cause the main club is out of town or off. And also all games aren’t on AppleTV. Some are put on here on TH-cam and views aren’t big
Cupsets! Ventura County FC (formerly LA Galaxy II) fall 3-0 to Irvine Zeta of NISA and northern Colorado is able to get the win in extras over Colorado Rapids 2. Only 3 remain from MLSNP: NYCFC II (they played Red Bulls II so at least one was advancing anyways), Chicago Fire II, and Carolina Core (I watched that match the most and feel Vermont was robbed cause ref seemed like he played favorites for Carolina in the second half). NISA has 2 left: Irvine of course I mentioned and Michigan Stars (the club’s owner who thinks he has a play for MLS one day). USL League One will have 8: Richmond, Charlotte, South Georgia, Greenville, Chattanooga, Omaha, Northern Colorado, and Spokane. NPSL with 2: El Farolito (the Cinderella darlings named after a Mexican restaurant) & Lubbock Matadors and Miami United of the USSL (I guess a regional league) are the other 3 that round out the 16 who’ll match up with USL Championship clubs in round 3
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Awesome, thank you!
well if you look at the future teams list on the USL website there is a team coming in Milwaukee and one in Iowa
yeah lets see what happens
Is there promotion and relegation between mls and usl? What are attendances like? I write this as an interested football fan in the UK
There's no promotion and relegation based on performance on the field. What happens with teams like FC Cincinnati is that they start in USL and build a large enough stadium, sell enough tickets, get enough investors, and then buy their way into MLS. So in a way it is like promotion but it is based on financial resources. We had a USL team in Rochester that used to get 6000-7000 attendance per game and at one time floated the idea of going into MLS but could not get enough investment to buy their way in. Some teams like Pittsburgh in USL have a smaller stadium and get attendance of about 4000 per game. Some teams have larger stadiums in USL like Sacramento and have plans to eventually buy their way into MLS and get over 10,000 per game. FC Cincinnati was getting huge crowds in their last year in USL of over 20,000 and had the top flight atmosphere going already.
Also wanna say that keeper on FC Cincinnati stops everything he's really good
No. And there never will be
@@rochesterjohnny7555in order to to join MLS a ownership group needs to buy into the league. San Diego ownership dropped half a billion just to say a team is coming . No stadium, no players, no practice facilities, just to say they are starting a team.
Between MLS 2024 and USL Championship 2024, the latter is a truly national league, unlike the former. Now, the context of 'national league' I'm talking about here is a sports league where each team plays all the other teams in the league at least once per season. As you may have known, USLC teams play intra-conference rivals twice and inter-conference ones once. Therefore, the team with the best overall regular season record has indeed achieved that after playing EVERYONE, similar to many top European and South American leagues. MLS teams don't, so instead of being a national league, not playing some teams at all in a season, perhaps it's basically a 'regional league'.
Full of shit
screw MLS - USL USL
Have fun watch an inferior product then.
Need someone to bring back the NASL